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Speaker 1: We're back inside the Colts radio studio. Good to be

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Speaker 1: with you again. I'm Matt Taylor with JJ Stangovitz and

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Speaker 1: another opportunity for us to get to know the new

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Speaker 1: Colts coaching staff. New to the staff, of course, is

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Speaker 1: Brenton Jackson. He is the recipient of the inaugural Tony

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Speaker 1: Dungee Diversity Coaching Fellowship. That's on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball, and last month, the Colts announced the creation

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Speaker 1: of the Tony Dungee Diversity Fellowship. That's a program designed

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Speaker 1: to create more opportunities for diverse coaches to progress inside

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Speaker 1: their careers. Jackson has seven years of coaching experience at

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Speaker 1: the collegiate level, most recently was a grad assistant working

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Speaker 1: with defensive backs at Oregon after serving in the same

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Speaker 1: role at Auburn in two and twenty one. Coach Jackson,

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Speaker 1: first off, congratulations man, welcome to Indianapolis. How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I'm blessed to be here. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having me. Absolutely so this opportunity. How

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Speaker 1: did it come about for you? How did you learn

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Speaker 1: about what the cults are doing? And then just your

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Speaker 1: the whole opportunity really came about a buddy of mine

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans now. He was the one that kind of

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Speaker 1: played middleman for me. Uh you know, we're trying to

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Speaker 1: get my name in there for the position, and you know,

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Speaker 1: by the greatest of guy that they contacted me, you know,

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Speaker 1: back for the for the job and uh so kind

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Speaker 1: of went through the whole interview process with Coach Bradley

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Speaker 1: And then obviously everything went well and it was fortunate

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Speaker 1: it's been an absolute blessing being here the last you know,

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Speaker 1: two or three weeks kind of connecting the dots here.

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Speaker 1: Um so, you you coached under Lovey Smith at Illinois.

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Speaker 1: He's obviously now with the Houston Texans. But that kind

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Speaker 1: So it was that connection from a few years ago

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Speaker 1: that mutual connection there was was really key for me. Well,

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Speaker 1: what does this opportunity mean to you? I mean, can

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Speaker 1: you put it into words just how you can take

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Speaker 1: it meaningful. What does it mean for you to see

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Speaker 1: For me, you know, it's an absolute blessing to be

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Speaker 1: just a guy that obviously is African American like myself,

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Speaker 1: at the same time. Responsibility wise. Have have they discussed

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Speaker 1: Breakdown wise is kind of is going to be pivotal

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Speaker 1: in terms of my job responsibilities. You're coaching backgrounds in

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Speaker 1: You know, I've obviously been fortunate to you know, work

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Speaker 1: Did you play ball growing up? I did. I only

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Speaker 1: decordinator in the NFL. Well, you mean, just talking to you,

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Speaker 1: But have you thought about, you know, where you might

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Speaker 1: to any other exactly, any other professional. Yeah, soak it in.

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Speaker 1: That's that's exactly right. Again, that is uh new coach

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Speaker 1: with US, Brent Jackson. He is the recipient again of

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Speaker 1: the inaugural Tony Dungee Diversity Coaching Fellowship. You're gonna see

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Speaker 1: Coach Jackson, man, it's like I said, it's an impressive guy.

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Speaker 1: Great to meet you, and continued success and best of

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Speaker 1: luck starting here on the offseason workout program. Awesome. I

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