1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Wow, what explosive hearings in the House Judiciary Committee today 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: as they had very at times contentious exchanges over whistleblower testimony. 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: And you know, it's amazing Democrats all of a sudden, 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: they don't like whistleblowers anymore, they don't trust whistleblowers, They 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: want punitive actions against whistleblowers. And what these guys are 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: saying this is the weaponization hearings run by Jim Jordan. 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: And they had four specific whistleblowers today, Garrett O'Boyle, special 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Agent Steve Friend, who will join us on this program 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: a little later in the program today, whistleblower former FBI 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: special Agent Marcus Allen, whistleblower FBI Operations specialist Tristan Levitt, 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: a president in Power Oversight, former member of the US 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: Merit System Protection Board testimony, and more importantly, the methods 13 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: under which the FBI took You know, we have whistleblower 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: law protections in this program in this country. Apparently they 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: don't matter anymore. They don't seem to matter at all. 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: And all the Democrats wanted to do is was grill 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: FBI agents over a tweet that might show that they 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: have a political point of view that might not be theirs, 19 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: and this is what we have. Anyway, the subcommittee investigating 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: all of this witnesses saying the FBI is a double 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: standard for what merits investigation, and one of the agents 22 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: said that the FBI departed from the standard procedures put 23 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: a heavy focus on investigating cases involving January sixth, twenty 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: twenty one. By the way, where are all the arrests 25 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: with all the video evidence that we have of the 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: five hundred and seventy four riots in the summer of 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty that injured thousands of cops, killed dozens of Americans, 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: and created billions of dollars in property damage? Where's where 29 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: are those? Where's the intensity from the FBI there? They 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: also claim that FBI leadership told them to inflate statists 31 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: dealing with domestic and violent extremism and now explains a lot. 32 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: Explains you know, how they handled Supreme Court justices. It 33 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: explain explains how they handled tiger moms like Linda that 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: go to school board meetings and dare to question the 35 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: age appropriateness of some of the materials being taught their 36 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: kids and the priorities of varying school districts. You know, 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: it's pretty unbelievable. I'll go through some of these whistleblowers. 38 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: One guy named Marcus Allen. He said quote, alternative analysis 39 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: and different viewpoints should be welcomed even though they are 40 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: not but ultimately acted upon by actual makers. He said, 41 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: groupthink should not be an ethos champion in an investigative organization. 42 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: To shut down differing viewpoints is the end of any 43 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: analytical or investigative body, and it sends a chilling effect 44 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: across the workforce. It does not allow for intellectual freedom, 45 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: which is vital any investigative body seeking out truth. It 46 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: is possible the ire again towards my perspective, could have 47 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: been due to folks wanting to maintain invincible arrogance instead 48 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: of consciously mentally transferring over to willful ignorance. My treatment, 49 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: without a doubt, is an FBI whistleblower has sent a 50 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: chilling effect through what semblance remains of an analytical cadre. 51 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: This was not a thorough investigation. In my regard, I 52 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: have not been afforded an opportunity to properly defend myself 53 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: or confront claims made against me. Now a light of 54 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: the Durham report coming out this week about how Crossfire 55 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: Hurricane never should have ever begun, and then all of 56 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: the actions taken and how they treated one candidate, their 57 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: favorite candidate, Hillary Clinton, with kid gloves, and they used 58 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: the full power might of the FBI and all their 59 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: subpoena tools available to them, including lying on PISA applications 60 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: as a means of going after these people. You have 61 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: one guy, Garrett Boyle, FBI whistleblower suspended. You know, it's 62 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: up to members of this committee, current and former FBI employees, 63 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: and indeed all Americans to ensure that the weaponization of 64 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: our own government against the people comes to an end, 65 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: no matter what the personal cost. And by the way, 66 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: the cost for all of these whistleblowers is that's it. 67 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: Their careers are over. Many have been suspended, many have 68 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: been put you know, iced out, Many will no longer 69 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: have a career in the FBI. He said the safeguards 70 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: currently in place that the FBI clearly are inadequate and 71 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: must be reworked to protect whistleblowers and others who are 72 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: inappropriately targeted. He says that he was transferred across the 73 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: country only to be suspended on his first day. The 74 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: FBI's actions forced his family to beg borrow warm codes 75 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: for their kids because they're family's belongings were locked in 76 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: an FBI controlled storage facility. 77 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: Quote. 78 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: So, one of the examples given in congressional letter included 79 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: an example where a neighbor or someone or somehow someone 80 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: knew a parent that they believed was extreme, and so 81 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: they called the FBI and reported that parent to the FBI. 82 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: He said, when the citizens in this country get to 83 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: a point that they can call the most powerful law 84 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: enforcement agency in the world on their neighbor just because 85 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: they disagree with them, that is a chilling. That is 86 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: chilling to the First Amendment rights of the people who 87 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: are getting the FBI called on them. And then he 88 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: had the question, and what you've done is exactly what 89 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: the federal law requires you to do, right, And isn't 90 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 1: it true that once the FBI found out you spoke 91 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: to Congress, your security clearance was suspended. Yes, I believe 92 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: that's what happened. I'm going to play some of this 93 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: testimony later. I'm just telling you some of the highlights here. Now, 94 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: question what was the effect, what effect is that this 95 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: had on your ability to provide for your young family. 96 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 2: Answer. 97 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I've since had to rely on charity because the FBI 98 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: stopped paying me and there's no other way for me 99 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: to make a living. 100 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: He says. 101 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: I know from other whistleblowers that they routinely deny them 102 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: the ability to get outside employment, and that as a 103 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: special you could only make seventy five hundred dollars a 104 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: year outside of your government's salary. So they can't even 105 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: live their lives anymore, you know. Another one, Gates played 106 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: the video of George Hill, who worked at the Boston 107 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: Field office. 108 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: You know. 109 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: He alleges that there were confidential human sources and FBI 110 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: informants in the Capitol on January sixth. Show us where 111 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: inside the capitol. We'll look into it, to which the 112 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Washington Field Office says, well, we can't show you those 113 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: videos unless you're tell us the exact time and place 114 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: those individuals were inside the capitol, to which they responded back, 115 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: And I was privy to those conversations firsthand. 116 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: Why can't you show us? 117 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: Why can't you just send us back give us access 118 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: to eleven thousand hours of video that's available because there 119 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: may be undercover officers or see confidential human sources on 120 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: those videos that whose identity we need to protect. Wow, 121 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: Steven Friend, he'll be a guest on the show. He's 122 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: been suspended, says the FBI retaliated against him after how 123 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: he exposed the bureau was working with numbers on domestic 124 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: violent extremist cases. So the FBI decided it was more 125 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: important to have you in the parking lot of a 126 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: school board meeting than getting worst of the worst of 127 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: the worst from people that they could harm. Correct, they 128 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: got into the whole January sixth this year too. You know, 129 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: remember we can go back and we covered it on 130 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: the show. And by the way, the former Capitol Police 131 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Chief Sun is going to be on at the top 132 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: of the next hour. But remember all of the times 133 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: that he personally in the days leading up to January sixth, 134 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: was requesting the National Guard. 135 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: That story never got told. Why not? 136 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: Why didn't they listen to the capitol police chiefs. You know, 137 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: there's only been ten in total Capitol police chiefs in 138 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: the history of this country. 139 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: That's it. 140 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: And if the Capitol police chief says that they have 141 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: intelligence that indicates that this day may be a problem 142 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: and they want to be prepared for it, and he 143 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: gets totally, completely and utterly ignored and then basically pushed 144 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: out and retired. Or the fact that you know we 145 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: have on tape January third, President Trump said it to me. 146 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: His chief of staff, Mark Meadow said it to me. 147 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: The Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller said it to me. 148 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: His chief of staff Cash Betel said it to me. 149 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: That they all talked about on January third, the need 150 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: for National Guard troops in coming days leading up to 151 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: January sixth, and then of course finally this year in January, 152 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Lester Holt, I mean a little late, better late than ever, 153 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: I guess, but reported that federal law enforcement could have 154 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: prevented January sixth because they had actionable intelligence and the 155 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: police chief himself talking about the delaying getting the National 156 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Guard to the capitol for help. 157 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: Now this do you understand? And then what a Democrats do? 158 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: They start smearing and slandering the whistleblowers. Aren't these the 159 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: same people that love whistleblowers. Here say whistleblowers, not here 160 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: say whistleblowers. But oh they'll love whistleblowers. Only whistleblowers that 161 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: are going after Donald Trump were going after a Republican 162 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: because Debbie Wasserman Schultz and others on the committee. But 163 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,239 Speaker 1: it had with Jim Jordan over the testimony of witnesses. 164 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not aware that you're able to withhold 165 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: information from the minority that we need to use, she said, 166 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: before being cut off by Jordan. When it comes to whistleblowers, 167 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: you are not entitled, short and set. There's a pretty 168 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: good exchange. We've got some of this on table, play 169 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: it later. And then having to remind her and I 170 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: told you that when it comes to whistleblowers, you're not entitled. 171 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: It is the discretion of mister Allen, Jordan said, and 172 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: the law decides. Did you not listen to the testimony? 173 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: I mean, pretty amazing moments that took place here. One 174 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: whistleblower details the FBI's attempt to punish him for speaking out. 175 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: This is Garrett O'Boyle saying targeted by the FBI and 176 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: their smear campaign made it impossible for him to do 177 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: his job, devastated his family financially. I couldn't knowingly and 178 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: silently continue on this path without speaking out against all 179 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: the weaponization that I witnessed. All I wanted to do 180 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: was serve my country by stopping bad guys and protecting 181 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: the innocent. And to my chagrin, bad guys have begun 182 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: running parts of the government, making it difficult to continue 183 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: to serve this nation. And he says, many in the 184 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: FBI see what becomes of whistleblowers. How the FBI destroys 185 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: their careers, suspends them under false pretenses, takes their security 186 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: clearance and pay with no true options for real recourse 187 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: or remedy. 188 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: This is by design. 189 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: It creates an Orwellian atmosphere, and it silences all opposition 190 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: and discussion. He said that the bureau's retaliation left his 191 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: family destitute. He said, the FBI will crush you. The 192 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: government will crush you in your family if you try 193 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: to expose the truth about things that they are doing wrong. Wow, 194 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: the FBI targeted these pro life groups. They targeted tiger 195 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: moms at school board meetings, you know, in particular, the 196 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: Catholics and parents attending these meetings with investigators and investigations 197 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: into an effort to impiltrate, you know, with the sense 198 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: that they were a domestic terrorism threat. Okay, they're begging 199 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: keep your gender identity classes away for my first, second, 200 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: and third grader and we think you should focus on reading, writing, math, 201 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: science and arithmetic and computers and not on gender identity, 202 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: human section, usuality and CRT. That's what parents by and 203 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: large have been saying. Do some get a little heated? 204 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 205 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: Is this an FBI issue? No, that would be an 206 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: issue for local law enforcement if he got out of hand. 207 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: Jordan said, if you're a parent attending a school board meeting, 208 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: in your pro life, praying at a clinic, or you're 209 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: a Catholic simply going to mass, you're a target of 210 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: this government, a target of this FBI, adding that officials 211 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: attempted to inflate their investigations to treat them as domestic 212 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: and violent extremist cases. Jordan says his committee spoke with 213 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: over two dozen whistleblowers in compiling his report. Matt Gates 214 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: detailed whistleblower claims of the Washington d C. Field Office 215 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: is the source of much of the rot within the organization. Quote, 216 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: A lot of the rot the committee has learned emerges 217 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: out of the headquarters from the Washington Field office. A 218 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: whistleblower described the conflict that existed at the Washington Field office, 219 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: and they put pressure on other field offices around the 220 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: country to engage in law enforcement work without predication. Wow, 221 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: many agencies. Now it's an Owellian atmosphere that silences opposition. Okay, 222 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: does the do you think anyone cares? The FBI, by 223 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: the way illegally obtained we learned today bank records to 224 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: search for anybody that attended the January sixth rally. Oh 225 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: why follow the rule of law? What about miranda rights? 226 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: What about uh? You know, having giving somebody the right 227 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: to remain silent, you just now get free access to 228 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: their bank accounts. 229 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: Okay, I've been smeared as a malcontent and subpar FBI employee. 230 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: This smear stands in start contrasts in my life in 231 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: public service. This smear campaign, disgusting as it is, is unsurprising. 232 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: Despite our oath to uphold the constitution, too many and 233 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: the FBI aren't willing to sacrifice for the hard right 234 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: over the easy wrong. They see what becomes of whistleblowers. 235 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,119 Speaker 4: How the FBI destroys their careers, suspends them under false pretenses, 236 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: takes their security clearances, and pay with no true options 237 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: for real recourse or remedy. This is by design. It 238 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: creates an Orwellian atmosphere that silences, opposition and discussion. We 239 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: know what is right to do, it would too often 240 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: refuse to do what is right because the difficulty in 241 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: suffering it incurs. I couldn't knowingly continue on this path 242 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: silently without speaking out against the weaponization I witnessed, even 243 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 4: if it meant losing my job, my career, my livelihood, 244 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: my family's home, and now my anonymity. It's up to 245 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: members of this committee, current and former FBI employees, and 246 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: indeed all Americans to ensure that the weaponization of our 247 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: own government against the people comes to an end, no 248 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: matter of the personal cost. 249 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: That was Garrett Boyle him being an FBI I'm sorry, 250 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: what's that, Garrett O'Boyle Sorry, oh boy oh Boyle. Anyway, 251 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: he was testifying one of the whistleblowers today about the 252 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: smear campaign. Well, come back, we have the other news 253 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: of the day as well. Hit this hard with others 254 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: at the As the show progresses today, one of the 255 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: whistleblowers joins us hi twenty five to the top of 256 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: the hour, thank you for being with us. Let me 257 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: play for you a cut here of Steve Friend, who's 258 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: going to join us later in the program. Now at 259 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: the top of the next hour, we have the former 260 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: Capitol police chief in January sixth came up a lot 261 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: and how those hearings and everything involved in the investigation 262 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: was politicized. Now, this is information that we have told 263 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: you repeatedly. And you know, for example, I understand Liz 264 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Cheney and company wanted to get their pound of flesh 265 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump and blame Donald Trump, and we got 266 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: plenty of that in all of this, but we also 267 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: add other there's a lot more texture context to that 268 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: story that nobody ever wanted to talk about. You know, 269 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump wanted an insurrection, you have to ask 270 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: the question, then why was he, according to five people 271 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: in the Oval office, you know, days before January sixth, 272 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: talking about calling up the guard and having them available 273 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: with so many people coming to town. That doesn't make 274 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: sense that he would do that. Let me play the 275 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,119 Speaker 1: lester Holt report, because you know this was not highlighted 276 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: during the January sixth committee hearings. What did I say 277 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: about those hearings? They had a pre determined outcome. Okay, 278 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: politically you want to go after Trump. Find here's what 279 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: the opportunity though that was missed here. This is a 280 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: very important point. The opportunity was we cannot have just 281 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: like in the summer of twenty twenty, that we did 282 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: nothing to prosecute, and we have all the videotape evidence 283 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: in the world, the five hundred and seventy four people, 284 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: or the five hundred and seventy four riots, where we 285 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: have video of people involved in you know, hurling rocks 286 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: and bottles and molotov cocktails and bricks the police officers. 287 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: You know, we have video of people, you know, rummaging 288 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: through and robbing stores and setting him on fire. Those 289 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: people have not been held accountable. Or the dozen two 290 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: dozen Americans that died in the summer of twenty twenty. 291 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: Now there wasn't a committee looking into those riots. But 292 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: the sad opportunity that was missed here is that we've 293 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: got to make sure something like that never happens again. 294 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: And that means in our cities in the summer of 295 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and that means our capital. Got to protect 296 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: our institutions, You got to protect our elected officials. You 297 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: can't have something like that happen ever again. Period end 298 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: of sentence. You know, it took NBC News until January 299 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: of this year to figure out we had known a 300 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: long time, because you know, again the Capitol police chief, 301 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: they never asked for the Capitol police chiefs. They didn't 302 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: want his They spoke with him briefly, they minimized his testimony. 303 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: He was the one asking for the National Guard in 304 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: the days leading up to January sixth and that day 305 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: and denied. They didn't look into the head of security 306 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: for the House, Nancy Pelosi, her text messages, our emails, 307 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: our phone records. No, they didn't do any of that. 308 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: They didn't talk to Muriel Bowser, the mayor of Washington, 309 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: DC yan writing she denied Guard troops if anybody wanted 310 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: to call them up. Why did all that happen? And then, 311 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: of course we learn that in fact, there was actionable 312 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: intelligence that had been followed up on with law enforcement 313 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: likely would have prevented this day from ever happening. It's 314 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: not me ge for reporting this. This is NBC and 315 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: Lester Holt. 316 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 5: Now to our NBC News exclusive. The January sixth Committee's 317 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 5: final report was more than eight hundred pages, but some 318 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 5: material did not make the cut, including much of its 319 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 5: findings on the failures of federal law enforcement leading up 320 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 5: to the attack. 321 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 6: The Chief investigator of the January sixth Committee says the 322 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 6: government could have prevented it had law enforcement agencies acted 323 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 6: un the available intelligence. Do you believe the attack on 324 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 6: the Capitol could have been successfully repelled? 325 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 7: Been a lot different had law enforcement taken a more 326 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 7: assertive protective posture. The intel in advance was pretty specific, 327 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 7: and it was enough, in our view, for law enforcement 328 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 7: to have done a better job operationalizing a secure perimeter. 329 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 7: Law enforcement had a very direct role contributing to crely 330 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 7: the failures, the security failures that led to the violence. 331 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 6: People familiar with the committee's work tell NBC News members 332 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 6: downplayed that finding because they wanted to keep the focus 333 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 6: on former President Trump. Committee members dispute that haythe would 334 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 6: not discuss internal deliberations. Was this an intelligence failure? 335 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 7: It was not an intelligence failure. 336 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: Patorical breaks the line wait value hathe says. 337 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 6: The committee found the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, 338 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 6: and other agencies did not act on the intelligence they had, 339 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 6: including this online threat forwarded to Capitol police January fifth, 340 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 6: calling on thousands to go to Washington and help storm 341 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 6: the Capitol. In a statement to NBC News, the FBI 342 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 6: said had sent all the intelligence had had to the 343 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 6: Capitol Police. 344 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: Oh okay, you don't think that's a big part of 345 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: the story. Now, let me tell you what I would 346 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: have looked into if I was on that committee. But 347 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: of course they kicked off Jim Jordan and Jim Banks 348 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: on the committee and replaced him with what Elizabeth Cheney, 349 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney, and I forget the other person, you know, 350 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: the other idiot that lost. It's just sad because they 351 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: could have prevented it. Now, Steve Friend was one of 352 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: the whistleblowers, so he'll join us later in the program today, 353 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, talking about the FBI's campaign of intimidation after 354 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: it became a whistleblower, and then talking about the FBI 355 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: working against you, the American people, and is in need 356 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: of drastic reform. 357 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: Listen. 358 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 8: In August twenty twenty two, I made protective whistleblower disclosures 359 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 8: to my immediate supervisor, assistant Special Agents in Charge, and 360 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 8: Special Agent in Charge about my concerns regarding January sixth 361 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 8: investigations and signed to my office. I believed our departures 362 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 8: from case management rules established in the FBI's Domestic Investigations 363 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 8: and Operations Guide could have undermined potentially righteous prosecutions and 364 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 8: may have been part of an effort to inflate the 365 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 8: FBI statistics on domestic extremism. I also voiced concerns that 366 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 8: the FBI's use of SWAT and large scale arrest operations 367 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 8: to apprehend suspects who were accused of non violent crimes 368 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 8: and misdemeanors represented by counsel and who pledged to cooperate 369 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 8: with the federal authorities in the event of criminal charges 370 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 8: created an unnecessary risk to FBI personnel and public safety 371 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 8: at each level of my chain of command. Leadership caution 372 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 8: that despite my exemplary work performance, whistleblowing placed my otherwise 373 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 8: bright future with the FBI at risk. Special agents taken 374 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 8: oath to protect the US Constitution. The dangers of federal 375 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 8: law enforcement overreach were hammered home to me when I 376 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 8: was required to attend trainings at the Holocaust Memorial Museum 377 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 8: and MLK Memorial. I cited my oath and training in 378 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 8: my conversations with my FBI supervisors. Nevertheless, the FBI weaponized 379 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 8: the security clearance processes to facilitate my removal from active 380 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 8: duty within one month of my disclosures. In addition to 381 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 8: an indefinite unpaid suspension, the FBI initiated a campaign of 382 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 8: humiliation and intimidation to punish and pressure me to resign. 383 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 8: In violation of hip hop individuals at the FBI leaked 384 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 8: my private medical information to a reporter at The New 385 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 8: York Times in violation of the Privacy Act. The FBI 386 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 8: refused to furnish my training records for several months. To date, 387 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 8: they only provide a portion of the records, which are 388 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 8: essential to obtaining private investigator and fire armp licenses in 389 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 8: the state of Florida. Even after releasing some of the records, 390 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 8: the FBI refuses to confirm their legitimacy to the Florida 391 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 8: Department of Agriculture, rendering them few documents they have provided 392 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 8: practically useless. The FBI denied my request to seek outside 393 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 8: employment in an obvious attempt to deprive me of the 394 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 8: ability to support my family. Finally, the FBI Inspection Division 395 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 8: imposed an a legal gag order in an attempt to 396 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 8: prevent me from communicating with my family attorneys. The FBI 397 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 8: is incentivized to work against the American people and in 398 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 8: dire need of drastic reform, particularly in these areas. The 399 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 8: integrated program management system incentivizes the use of inappropriate investigatory 400 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 8: processes and tools to achieve arbitrary statistical accomplishments. Mission creep 401 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 8: within the National Security Branch has refocused counter terrorism from 402 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 8: legitimate foreign actors to political opponents within our borders. The 403 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 8: FBI weaponizes process crimes and reinterprets laws to initiate pretectual 404 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 8: prosecutions and persecute its political enemies. Euerintelligence analysis capability increasingly 405 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 8: dictates operations, turning the FBI into an intelligence agency with 406 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 8: a law enforcement capability. FBI collusion with big tech to 407 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 8: gather intelligence on Americans, censor political speech, and target citizens 408 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 8: for malicious prosecution. 409 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: A dysfunctional promotion. 410 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 8: Process fosters a revolving door of inexperienced, ambitious FBI supervisors 411 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 8: ascending the management ladder within the agency. FBI informant protocols 412 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 8: that are broken and abusive. The FBI skirts the Whistleblower 413 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 8: Protection Act and exploits the security clearance revocation process to 414 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 8: expel employees who make legally protected disclosures. 415 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is devastating. This is what we've been 416 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: telling you how the FBI has been politicized. It has 417 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: been weaponized. The DOJ has been politicized. It has been weaponized. 418 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: Let's go to another FBI whistleblower, this one Marcus Allen, 419 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: saying he's been retaliated against by having his security clearance revoked. 420 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: FBI claims he's being disloyal because of his January sixth views. Now, 421 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: by the way, then, he says, the FBI retaliated against 422 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: him aftery file to complain against them. 423 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: Listen, as the. 424 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 3: Holder of a top secret security clearance since two thousand 425 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: and one, I've been trusted with the nation's greatest secrets. 426 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: So why am I here today? Despite my history of 427 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 3: unblemish service to the United States, the FBI suspended my 428 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: security clearance, accusing me of actually being disloyal to my country. 429 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: This outrageous and insulting accusation is based on unsubstantiated accusations 430 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: that I hold conspiratorial views regarding the events of January sixth, 431 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, and that I allegedly sympathized with criminal conduct. 432 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: I do not. I was not in Washington, d C. 433 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: On January sixth, played no part in the events of 434 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 3: January sixth, and I condemn all criminal activity that occurred. Instead, 435 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: it appears that I was retaliated against because I forded 436 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: information in my superiors and others that questioned the official 437 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: narrative of the events of January six. As a result, 438 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: I was accused of promoting conspiratorial views and unreliable information. 439 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 3: Because I did this, the FBI questioned my allegiance to 440 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: the United States. Throughout this ordeal, I and my counsel 441 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: have responded quickly, whereas the FBI has only stonewalled. I 442 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: have filed a federal civil rights losssuit which is pending, 443 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 3: seeking to recover my livelihood and restore my good name. Recently, 444 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: my council filed a whistleblower complaint with the Justice Department's 445 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: Office of Inspector General. The complaint set forth retaliation through 446 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: misuse of the security clearance process, as well as reprisal 447 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: against me for making a protected disclosure. Interestingly enough, in 448 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: the wake of the filing the complaint. In the wake 449 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: of filing the complaint, I received correspondence from the FBI 450 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: indicating that my clearance had now been formally revoked. This 451 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: occurred after filing my complaint with the IG. The new 452 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: and baseless claims made in the letter had never been 453 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: brought up prior to the issuance of the security clearance 454 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: revocation letter. I have never had the opportunity to defend myself. 455 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: I only had one interview with the FBI, which occurred 456 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: a year ago after apparent prompting from Congress. In that interview, 457 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: the investigators towards the end of the interview uttered in 458 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: response to my exasperation, don't sue us? 459 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: Yes, let me play one more cut of one of 460 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: the was that same whistleblower, Marcus Allen. He's testifying to 461 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Matt Gates that the FBI retaliated against him because he 462 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: thought Director Ray was lying to the Senate in testimony 463 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: regarding January sixth. 464 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 9: And mister Allen, is it your belief that you were 465 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 9: retaliated against because you shared an email that questioned the 466 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 9: truthfulness of FBI Director Christopher Ray, Yes, sir, And you 467 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 9: believed that he wasn't truthful based on testimony he'd given 468 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 9: to the United States Senate. Isn't that right? 469 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 7: Yes, sir? 470 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 9: And in that testimony to the Senate, you believe that 471 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 9: Christopher Ray indicated that there were no confidential informants and 472 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 9: no FBI assets that were present at the Capitol on 473 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 9: January sixth, that were part of the violent riot in 474 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 9: that right, Yes, sir, unbelievable. 475 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean, what else do you need to know? Your 476 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: FBI has now been weaponized, it's now sized, it now 477 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: has a political agenda, I mean, and and that's you know, 478 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: these are It's not a guess anymore. We're not guessing here, 479 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, these whistleblowers testifying with the Select sub Subcommittee 480 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: on the weaponization of our federal government. It has been weaponized, 481 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: and now we are paying a price for it, and 482 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: nothing seems to happen. 483 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: You know. 484 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: Now, the Republicans rightly have gotten to the point where 485 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: they only see one solution, and that is they're going 486 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: to have to use the power of the purse not 487 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: to defund dismantle the FBI, but restructure the FBI, reorganize 488 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: the FBI put you know, get its focus back on 489 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: the purpose of law enforcement. Uh and and not you know, 490 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: being involved in presidential elections the way they have for 491 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: two presidential elections. Uh or or having an agenda that 492 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: only fits one party but not another, you know, or 493 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: their priorities. Really we're going to go after let's see 494 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, tiger moms that speak out at like Linda, 495 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: that speak out at school board meetings, And we're going 496 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: to go after you know, churches because of their pro 497 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: life views and pro life centers, because that's what the 498 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: testimony has been. That's what we've now learned about this FBI. 499 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: This is not the same FBI that it was five 500 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: years ago or even ten years ago. And the fact 501 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: is they've gotten away with it with impunity. They literally 502 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: put their cinder blocks on the scales of the twenty 503 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: sixteen election, and they did it again in the twenty 504 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: twenty election. Really, you had Hunter Biden's laptop in December 505 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, eleven months before the November twenty twenty election. 506 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: Okay, how long. 507 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: Would it take the FBI to authenticate that? 508 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: Not long. 509 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: They have very sophisticated computer analysts that can figure this 510 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: stuff out, you know, in he split, no time at all. 511 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: You know what about the case of the you know 512 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: now they're telling big tech all be on the lookout. 513 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: You may be the victim of a misinformation campaign. By 514 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: the way, Twitter, here's three and a half million dollars. 515 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: Why are we giving three and a half million taxpayer? 516 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: FBI dollars to Twitter. How much do they give other 517 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: big tech companies? And then the laptop story that they 518 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: knew was real comes out, but they had already pre 519 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: bunked it. They've been telling the big tech companies all 520 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: they might be, you know, misinformation about Hunter or about 521 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. 522 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: Got to be on the lookout for that. 523 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: So you're not a victim of misinformation, all right, because 524 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: January sixth came up so often today in these hearings 525 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: and the weaponization of our Justice Department and DJ and 526 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: uh Man. This was devastating. These these you know, these 527 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: people that are whistleblowers, putting everything on the line, and 528 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: what happens. They get penalized, they get punished, they get ostracized, 529 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: they lose their jobs, their pensions, and it just their 530 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: entire career blows up. 531 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: But they put it all on the line. Today. 532 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: Now on the issue of January sixth, we're going to 533 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: talk with the former Capitol police chief's son. 534 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: He'll join us next. 535 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Then one of the whistleblowers that testified today will join 536 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: us as well. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn 537 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: or number if you want to be a part of 538 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: the program.