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Speaker 3: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 4: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thursday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: Me Buck in solo today for one more day touch

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Speaker 2: base with our man Clay Travis, who is on us soil,

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Speaker 2: back from his sojourn in Australia with his family, and

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Speaker 2: he will be with us tomorrow. So just me today

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Speaker 2: and we have a lot to dive into. The House

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Speaker 2: Democrats have released a a even for House Democrats, a

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Speaker 2: particularly dishonest and absurd report on how Trump Trump was

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Speaker 2: the one receiving money from foreign governments, not Biden Trump.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I will. I will eviscerate this report with you.

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Speaker 2: We will dissect and and bag up and throw in

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Speaker 2: the trash, this absurd report, because that is where it belongs,

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Speaker 2: in the trash, in the garbage. So we shall we

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Speaker 2: shall discuss that in a little bit. Trump's legal team

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Speaker 2: in Colorado has requested sert with the Supreme Court. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: guys have got away in on this thing. It's crazy

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Speaker 2: what they have done kicking Trump off the presidential ballot

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Speaker 2: Court ruling that will essentially stop this madness. Remember, we're

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Speaker 2: main Secretary of State said she would disqualify Trump from

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Speaker 2: the ballot in the state of Maine, but because of

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Speaker 2: the issues involved, she's going to stay her own decision

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Speaker 2: pending judicial review via Maine State Supreme Court. Supreme Court's

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Speaker 2: it in nine to zero because Sotomayor and Katangi Brown

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Speaker 4: Anyway, we'll get into that in a little bit more detail.

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Speaker 2: We also have the days of preparation here before some

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Speaker 2: Republican primary, how things are going. Eric Adams in New

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Speaker 2: We'll get in that later on in the show. Right now,

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Speaker 2: I got to start with this, the Epstein disclosures. Now,

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Speaker 2: But so there's the list of names from the death,

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Speaker 2: But without proof, and it is true, we have to

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the most basic What was Epstein doing.

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Speaker 2: He had all these houses wired up, They were taking

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Speaker 4: All right, there's so much here.

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Speaker 2: There is a conspiracy around Epstein that has not been

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Speaker 2: Held the worst of the worst at the MCC. It

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Speaker 4: And this guy's able to kill himself, the only one.

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Speaker 4: He's already arrested.

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Speaker 2: They're they're they're all in on you know, we gotta

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Speaker 4: That is what happened.

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Speaker 4: And it's it's so shocking that I don't even know

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Speaker 2: My friends?

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Speaker 4: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: Does anyone want to try to explain that one to me?

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Speaker 2: I don't go on conspiracies. I go on facts. I'm

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Speaker 2: has been going on this whole time. And when you're

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Speaker 2: talking about people with this level of power and money

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Speaker 2: and influence and the possibility of them having their reputations

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Speaker 2: absolutely destroyed, maybe going to prison for decades.

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Speaker 4: What are they not.

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Speaker 2: Willing to do nothing they're not willing to do. What

443
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Speaker 2: kind of leverage, what kind of corruption, what kind of

444
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Speaker 2: criminality will they engage in to protect themselves? Absolutely anything?

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Speaker 2: So I do think that that's something we all have

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Speaker 2: to think about here. And as I said, I just

447
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 2: read to you the Miami Herald, not something you know

448
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Speaker 2: right wing blog, the Miami Herald's reporting on what happened

449
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Speaker 2: in the key moment of the Epstein case when they

450
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Speaker 2: would finally be able to answer those those questions. Who

451
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Speaker 2: was he blackmailing and why was he blackmailing? As in

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Speaker 2: other than yeah, getting money? Sure, but was there anybody else,

453
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Speaker 2: any larger entity that was involved in this or pushing

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Speaker 2: for this, or you know, any co conspirators or well

455
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Speaker 2: we may never know now. I mean, they're going to

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Speaker 2: release more names on this list, but they're just you

457
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Speaker 2: have to remember because there are because there are names

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Speaker 2: on this list that are that and this is true.

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Speaker 2: There are names that are coming out people that are

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Speaker 2: I think Cameron Dias his name is that's just because

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Speaker 2: someone mentioned her and that she has nothing to do

462
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Speaker 2: with any of this, didn't know Epstein. There are names

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Speaker 2: mentioned that have nothing to do with anything, and so

464
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Speaker 2: the names that were involved, they get to say, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm just another one of those named people in Epstein.

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Speaker 2: You know, you already know about the bad ones, like

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Speaker 2: the British prince or whatever. You we already know about that.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, and I just don't think there's been

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Speaker 2: that much. I don't think there's been that much interest

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Speaker 2: in really getting to the bottom of it from a

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Speaker 2: lot of places in the government. I think they want

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Speaker 2: to move on. I mean, you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of that, right The government wants to move on from

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Speaker 2: COVID doesn't want to admit, you know, how tyrannical and

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Speaker 2: insane they were. And a best case analysis is that

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Speaker 2: our government wants to move past the Epstein case because

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Speaker 2: of its embarrassment at how poorly it was handled. That

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Speaker 2: goes without that is like obviously true, that is beyond question.

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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of you think it's worse

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Speaker 2: than that, and I think something else is going on too, So.

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Speaker 4: We'll stay on it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been talking to this and been on

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Speaker 2: this story and following it for a long time, and

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Speaker 2: they're just still things that do not add up. Take

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Speaker 2: your calls on this. If you got any we'll get into. Man,

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot today. Sorry, I went longer on

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Speaker 2: this than I had intended to. Some updates on the

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Speaker 2: Claudie Gay and Dei situation at Harvard. A Trump legal

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Speaker 2: Now, everybody, thanks for being here. I had mentioned to

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Speaker 2: you this report which we're going to dive into in

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Speaker 2: a second. But you know, yesterday we talked about the

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Speaker 2: the report, meaning it's millions of dollars that the Democrats

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Speaker 2: say went to Trump. Anyways, put it be in that

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Speaker 2: for a second. Yesterday I talked to you about the

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Speaker 2: strike in the strike in Iran at a commemoration of

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Speaker 2: Kassamsulamani's death by drone strike, and over one hundred people

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Speaker 2: died in the blasts. The Islamic State has taken it

533
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Speaker 2: was a jee hottist, a jee hottist Sunni entity, which

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Speaker 2: we shall keep an eye on. I would just note

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Speaker 2: that the fact that there was some reporting that was saying, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, Israel did a strike in be Roots, so

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Speaker 2: you know, just saying I just look at this, saying

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Speaker 2: Israel doesn't blow up, that doesn't intentionally blow up or

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Speaker 2: hundreds of people in a cemetery to make some kind

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Speaker 2: of a point. So I said that to you at

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Speaker 2: the time it was obviously true, and now we know

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Speaker 2: the Islamic State has taken responsibility for that attack.

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Speaker 4: So I just wanted to update you on that now.

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Speaker 4: Bringing it back home here for a second.

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Speaker 2: Trump businesses received seven point eight million dollars in foreign

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Speaker 2: payments during his presidency. This is the Democrats because here's

547
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Speaker 2: what we know. A hunter Biden while his dad was

548
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Speaker 2: vice president and thereafter received from foreign entities specifically or

549
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: specifically China and Ukraine agents, received millions and millions of

550
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Speaker 2: dollars wired to LLC owned bank accounts that he then

551
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Speaker 2: did not pay taxes on. Okay, that's a bribe. That's

552
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: a bribe, or you could say that's corruption. Same thing, really,

553
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Speaker 2: but that's pay that's paying for access, paying for influence,

554
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Speaker 2: hiding it from the public, and it's selling out our country.

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Speaker 2: That's what that is intended to do. When a Chinese

556
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Speaker 2: businessman says, here's seven million dollars when I need to

557
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Speaker 2: have your dad's ear, You're just going to make that

558
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Speaker 2: happen for me. That's corruption. Okay, So there's not really

559
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Speaker 2: some big mystery here about that. But here's what the

560
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Speaker 2: Democrats are doing. They're saying, well, uh, Trump, and this

561
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Speaker 2: goes back, all goes back to the emolument's clause.

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Speaker 4: Remember that during the Trump administration, which never went anywhere.

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Speaker 2: They they say, well, Trump's businesses were sometimes you know,

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Speaker 2: frequented by I think patronized by is now an old

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00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: usage of the term. But patrons went to these places

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Speaker 2: or they became patrons at these places. Essentially, foreign diplomats

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Speaker 2: or foreign businesses spend money in the Trump restaurants or

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Speaker 2: rented rooms at the Trump Hotel for the night. Now

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Speaker 2: what they don't tell you in this is that, first

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Speaker 2: of all, this is a whole range of different governments

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Speaker 2: that are doing this. And the way that this works

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Speaker 2: isn't you spend five hundred dollars or seven hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: a night for a room at the Trump Hotel and

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Speaker 2: that money goes into Donald Trump's pocket.

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Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, Trump's a billionaire, so.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he cares that much about the seven

577
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Speaker 2: hundred dollars room a night room, but.

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Speaker 4: He has to pay expenses.

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Speaker 2: These are goods and services on the open market. Right

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Speaker 2: If I'm running a If I'm running a liquor store

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Speaker 2: and somebody comes in they're about to buy a bottle

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Speaker 2: of wine, do they have any leverage on me? They say,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy this bottle of wine, but you better

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Speaker 2: tell me all the secrets. You know, Buck, you were

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Speaker 2: in the CIA, tell me all your secrets. I'd say no,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna wait till I sell somebody else. The

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Speaker 2: bottle of wine, Thank you very much. Also, I'm not

588
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Speaker 2: gonna spill the beans. I mean for any reason, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna spill the beans because you bought a

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Speaker 2: bottle of wine at my place. Can we all understand this,

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Speaker 2: There's a difference. I mean, I know you understand this,

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Speaker 2: but it's just so maddening to see what the game

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Speaker 2: democrats are playing.

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Speaker 4: There's a difference between a.

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Speaker 2: Businessman or a diplomat from wherever, from Norway sits down

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Speaker 2: at the Trump Hotel, orders a cheeseburger. He spends you know,

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Speaker 2: thirty dollars expensive cheeseburger. Spends thirty dollars on that cheeseburger. Well,

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Speaker 2: not all of that is profit. It goes to the

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Speaker 2: bottom line of the business, has to pay all staff

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Speaker 2: at employees. I mean, what really ends up in Trump's

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Speaker 2: pocket from that as the as an owner of Trump Hotel.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think he was a one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: or I think of Anka and Jaron owned a piece

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Speaker 2: of it. Point being, you know, you've got to be

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Speaker 2: kidding me, right, I mean, imagine imagine if you I mean,

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Speaker 2: this would be a little bit like saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: I donated five dollars to a presidential campaign. Now I

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Speaker 2: own the president. It's insane. You have to think of

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Speaker 2: this in terms of scope and scale. You have to

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Speaker 2: think of this in terms of what leverage. If someone

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Speaker 2: gives you a briefcase with a million dollars and says

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna need a favor from your dad, the vice president,

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Speaker 2: that's meant to be a bribe. If somebody shows up

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Speaker 2: at your restaurant or your hotel and says I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get a room for the night, nobody cares.

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Speaker 4: Right, you have no leverage. No one's gonna do you

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Speaker 4: any favor. They could rent the run to somebody else. Well,

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Speaker 4: they get the table as somebody else.

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Speaker 2: It is a good exchanged on the open market, or

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Speaker 2: good or service exchange in the open market. This is

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Speaker 2: for people who have a basic understanding of how a

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Speaker 2: business works. This isn't surprising or complicated at all, but

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Speaker 2: they want to act like diplomats. Ordering a cheeseburger at

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Speaker 2: the Trump Hotel bar is the same thing as what

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden did.

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Speaker 4: That's what this is all meant to do. That's what

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Speaker 4: this is all all meant to be.

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Speaker 2: Let me see where I'm trying to find some of that.

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Speaker 2: Some of them were one hundred and fifty five page report.

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Speaker 2: By the way, let me see China, China State owned Bank,

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Speaker 2: it was a tenant in Trump Tower during the Trump presidency.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, you know what would.

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Speaker 2: Have happened if the Chinese owned bank wasn't a tenant

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Speaker 2: in Trump Tower?

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Speaker 4: Somebody else would have been a tenant in Trump Tower.

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Speaker 2: Like, there's no leverage, it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get it.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna get you know, the special treatment from

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Speaker 2: the president because you're a tenant in one of his

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Speaker 2: many buildings.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just just think about.

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Speaker 2: How how crazy this is this thinking. Let me see,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to see other places that they let me see.

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Speaker 2: In June twenty seventeen, the director of sales and marketing

645
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Speaker 2: Trump Hotel in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: Build a hotel.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen hundred and fifty dollars as a reimbursable business expense

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Speaker 2: for a hotel in China. Corn additional expense reports obtained

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Speaker 2: by the committee regarding a reimbursement. I mean, really, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about a fifteen, nineteen hundred dollars expense.

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Speaker 4: This this is in this report.

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Speaker 2: Let me see Saudi Arabia all together payments do all

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Speaker 2: Trump businesses six hundred and fifteen thousand dollars at two

654
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Speaker 2: Trump properties. So this is for like leasing space for

655
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: buying things. This money is not a bag of cash

656
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: that goes to Donald Trump. And this doesn't change anything.

657
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: These are businesses that were pre existing before he What

658
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: was the Hunter Biden business?

659
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 4: Everybody? What business was he running?

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Speaker 2: If you buy a room in the Trump hotel or

661
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: if you rent office space in Trump Teller, what are

662
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: you getting a room or office space?

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00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: If you give.

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden seven million dollars for no apparent reason, what

665
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: are you buying?

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00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: Not a hotel room? Right? So we all get this.

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Speaker 2: I would assume we all understand what's going on here,

668
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: But I just I wanted to address it because if anything,

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00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: if nothing else, it goes to the level of dishonesty.

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00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they really are just assuming that people are

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00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: stupid and won't think this through, and that the Trump

672
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: haters will just the Trump haters will jump on this

673
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 2: because they hate Trump. So it doesn't matter if it's

674
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: true or fair or honest. It's anti Trump.

675
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: Therefore they like it.

676
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: It's anti Trump. Therefore, the Washington post prints it. But

677
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: the efforts they tried to bring court challenges, the efforts

678
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: the emoluments clas stuff was always a joke before it

679
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: all failed. It all, they've already gone through this.

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00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 4: They tried it.

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00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 2: Oh Trump's getting paid by foreign governments, and how would

682
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: that even work? You know, Saudia, Saudi Arabia is gonna

683
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: be Saudi Arabia. You know, six six hundred thousand dollars

684
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: to Saudi Arabia is a like a.

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00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: Filthy penny on the street. It has no meaning to

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00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 4: them whatsoever. None.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at this across the entirety of

688
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: all the Trump enterprises and Trump businesses, this isn't you know,

689
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: this isn't some game changer. So uh, you know, I

690
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: find I find the whole thing honestly absurd.

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00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: But this is what you're going to.

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00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: Be up against. You're going to be up against people,

693
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: democrats who are just so desperate, because what this does

694
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: is it gives people the psychological space to say, well, Trump.

695
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 4: Is corrupt, just like Hunter Biden's corrupt. They both take

696
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 4: money from foreign governments.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a this is a really a

698
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: fallacy of scale or a fallacy of degree.

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Speaker 4: It's like I've said before. You know, you could have

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Speaker 4: a serial killer.

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00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 2: You know, somebody who's killed ten people, and you can

702
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: have a person who has jaywalked in the last you know,

703
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: a couple of years, and you could say that both

704
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: of these people have committed crimes. They both have committed crimes.

705
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 2: Is that fair?

706
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 4: That is that a reasonable thing to do?

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00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: But these are the psychological manipulations and distortions that are

708
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: going to become so regular in this election years. You

709
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: just have to be aware, you have to be on

710
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: on the lookout for them, and we have to shoot

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00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: this stuff down. We have to shout it down because

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00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: you know, I think there's the old Churchill thing about

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Speaker 2: how a lie gets halfway around the world before the

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00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: truth can get its pants on. I don't even think

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Speaker 2: that's a real Churchill quote.

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Speaker 4: Is it a real one?

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things that people say

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Speaker 2: Churchill said that he didn't actually say. There's a lot

719
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Speaker 2: the things people said they said. Maybe that one's true,

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Speaker 2: we'll check. But anyway, we're going to get into the

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Speaker 2: sound right?

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Speaker 4: if you want to talk sports. He gave me like

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Speaker 2: huge come from behind wind. I might be getting this

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00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,719
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00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: ago so I don't. I don't even really remember now,

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Speaker 2: but roll tide. I guess right, See, I shouldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: This is like tightrope, no net, you know, because I

770
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Speaker 2: have no idea. I'm gonna I'm gonna get this wrong

771
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: again and uh talk about how Major League is about

772
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves, which it is not. So I'm i

773
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: gotta keep things, keep things factual and moving here.

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Speaker 4: All right, we have oh oh no, no, no, I wanted

775
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: to get to this.

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00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: This is this is always fun.

777
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: The new Star Wars movie.

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00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge Star Wars guy, much more of

779
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: a Lord of the Rings guy. If you're going to

780
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: talk to me about the great epic trilogies. I do

781
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: love Indiana Jones, which is a trilogy. Because no other

782
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: movies for Indiana Jones have been made. I pretend the

783
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 2: other Indiana Jones movies do not exist. That is a

784
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: good strategy. It, you know, maintains my belief that the

785
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 2: Indiana Jones is actually a good body of work overall. Anyway,

786
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm more of a Lord of the Rings guy than

787
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: a Star Wars guy. Yeah, I guess I prefer like

788
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: because I like Game of Thrones a lot too. I

789
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: prefer fantasy genre like Dungeons and Dragons, fantasy genre stuff

790
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: to the space stuff. Pretty much like that. Battlestar Galactica

791
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: is very good as a show. The Expanse is very

792
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 2: good as a show. So you know, I gabble in both.

793
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: I gabble in both. But I'm not a big Star

794
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: Wars or Star Trek. Got any you team Mike, Star Wars,

795
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: Star Trek, you big, big into either. Yeah, we got some.

796
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: We got some dabblers. Look, it's good stuff. A team

797
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: in New York Day they dabble in some of the

798
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: stuff they're they're Disney is is not learning the lessons

799
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: of where wokeness takes you. As you know, we have

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00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: a snow White project that has been delayed I think

801
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 2: another year or something like that because there are well

802
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: snow White is like, Yeah, it's not about a love

803
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 2: story with some guy. It's all about girl power something

804
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: like that.

805
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 4: Here is uh, let me see.

806
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: The new director of the Star Wars franchise is a

807
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: feminist activist, Charmine Obaid Shinoi, who said years ago, this

808
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: is back in twenty fifteen. She's at the Women in

809
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: the World something. It sounds like a really fun, fun

810
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: place Women in the World Summit, and here is what

811
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: she said. Her goal as a filmmaker is this is

812
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: twenty fifth from twenty fifteen cut twenty six.

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00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 5: I like to make men uncomfortable. I enjoy making men

814
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Speaker 5: uncomfortable cotable. It is important to be able to look

815
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 5: into the eyes of a man and say I am

816
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 5: here and recognize that, and recognize that I am working

817
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 5: to bring something that makes you uncomfortable, and it should

818
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 5: make you uncomfortable, because you need to change your attitude.

819
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 5: And it's only when you're uncomfortable, when you're shifty, when

820
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 5: you have to have difficult conversations, that you will perhaps

821
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 5: look at yourself in the mirror and not like the

822
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 5: reflection and then say, maybe there is something wrong with

823
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 5: the way I think, or maybe there is something wrong

824
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 5: with the way I am addressing this issue.

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Speaker 2: Man, she seems like a lot of fun, right, That's

826
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: who I want trying to entertain millions and millions of

827
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: people around the world with stories about you know, space

828
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: Samurai basically, which is kind of what Star Wars is,

829
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: right with the Jedi and the lightsabers and everything.

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Speaker 4: You know, this is not gonna be a good movie, folks,

831
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be a good movie.

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00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: I know.

833
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 4: How can you know? Because I know it's not gonna

834
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: be a good movie.

835
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: And the recent Star Wars movies they I thought they

836
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: stunk too, And.

837
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 4: That's why I always have to sit here and recite.

838
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't just love movies from the eighties, nineties and

839
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: early two thousands. It's just that's when they used to

840
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: make movies to get as many behinds in the seats

841
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: paying for tickets as possible, And somehow in the last

842
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: twenty years movies have turned into this. With this one

843
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: would just give me a lecture about how you need

844
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: to be uncomfortable about how the politics of the people

845
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: writing the checks and directing and screenwriting and all the

846
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: rest of it, their politics need to be just just

847
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: smashed into your face all the time, generally by deeply

848
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: narcissistic and ignorant people who don't have any real understanding

849
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: of how the world actually functions or works. It's not

850
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: to entertain you anymore, but down there something else also,

851
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 2: you know, I I don't like I don't like keeping

852
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: secrets from you. I think that it's really important with

853
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: this audience that I am always upfront with you, and

854
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't keep things from you. I mean,

855
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: I want you to know who I am. I focus

856
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: on the stories, I focus on the news, but I

857
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: want you to know who you're listening to. And that's

858
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: why I just think that in the spirit of full disclosure,

859
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: as we're talking about all this, you should know something.

860
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: And you know some of you are going to have

861
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: a tough reaction to this and I and I'm okay

862
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: with that. But I I have told my wife that

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00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm willing to watch the Barbie movie with her.

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Speaker 4: I'm what am I gonna do? Guys?

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Speaker 2: It's on Netflix. It's a billion dollars. Wife want wife,

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Speaker 2: he wants to see it. We're gonna have a movie

867
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: night this weekend. You know, We're gonna hang out with

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Speaker 2: Ginger and stay home one night. And what am I

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00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: gonna do? Ibou She's gonna watch Barbie by herself, you know.

870
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Speaker 2: I just so, I'm gonna tell you the truth. I'm

871
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: I'm scheduled to watch the Barbie movie. So while I

872
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: sit here and tell you about all these movies that

873
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: are that I think are so bad, I'm stepping into

874
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: the I'm stepping into the Thunderdome.

875
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: I am.

876
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm going into the lions den of feminist movie making,

877
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 2: so to speak, and I'm gonna watch the Barbie Movie

878
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: with my wife, and I will tell you what I think.

879
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: I know I'm late to the game, but I wasn't

880
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: gonna pay to see in the theaters. I hate theaters.

881
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: You know that. Get off my law in theaters, you

882
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: know that. But I am.

883
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to say. I can't hide this from you.

884
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I'm gon watch the Barbie Movie, probably

885
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: this weekend. It might get delayed, but I think it's

886
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 2: gonna be this weekend, and I'll give you my honest review.

887
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you this right now. I will

888
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: I will correct myself if this turns out to be

889
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: not true. I think the Barbie movie I'm probably going

890
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: to find better than Ferrari, which if you had told

891
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 2: me that was the case until I saw the Ferrari movie,

892
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: I would have said you were insane. But I think

893
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: it is possible that if you only gave me one

894
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: and I had no choice, sort of like having my

895
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: eyeballs removed entirely, I think it's likely. I'm gonna tell

896
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: you Barbie' is a better movie than Ferrari, which I

897
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 2: haven't even seen.

898
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 4: Barbie, I haven't even seen it, But I bring you

899
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 4: this honesty, Franks.

900
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: There are no secrets between us, just you and me

901
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: and a few million of our closest buddies, all listening

902
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: plays back tomorrow. Talk to you, then she'll tie