1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and lude Michael 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: Replace where we went, the carry and the sense of joy. 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: I know it's incredibly disappointing now and look candidly, it's 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: it's a bit scary because there's a very different vision 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: that's being put out there. 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: And tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: Trudeau dinner from two people who were at the table. 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: We are told that when Trudeau told President elect Trump 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: that new tariffs would kill the Canadian economy, Trump joked 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: to him that if Canada can't survive without ripping off 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: the US to the tune of one hundred billion dollars 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: a year, then maybe Canada should become the fifty first 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: state and Trudeau could become It's got. 15 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: We were huge fans of the Victor Davis Kansas, and. 16 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 4: I decided long ago that our show was not just 17 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: going to be me yammering, that when we found good things, 18 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 4: we would share them with you. You know, back when 19 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: Matt Drudge was at his most influential in the Drudge Report, 20 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: Drudge didn't write hardly anything. What he did is he 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: went out and found interesting things, and that was a 22 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: place to go and he would curate it. But we 23 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 4: kind of view our show that way. We're a team 24 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: of folks, not just me, And while I do most 25 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 4: of the talking, a lot of it is somebody else's 26 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: idea on our team, or something I've read or something 27 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: I've heard. So what we thought we would do today 28 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: during this last hour of the show, and maybe we'll 29 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: take up the whole hour we'll see is uh Victor 30 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: Davis Hansen, and we will not be able to get 31 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: to all of it on the show today, and it 32 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 4: was my intention to, But today we pulled just some 33 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: of my favorite. 34 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Parts of this. 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 4: Discussion on why Trump won the twenty twenty four election, 36 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: and I think he's done a wonderful job explaining some 37 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: things that you might not have noticed but that you 38 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: were a part of. 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: One of Australia's top journalists, Paul Kelly, has just said 40 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: this about the American election. The wide swathes of Middle 41 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: America knew Trump wasn't any saint, but they turned the 42 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: electoral matte red because they endorsed his bedrock positions that 43 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: living standards were in retreat, inflation was too high, borders 44 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: were not secure, and elites were too arrogant. Is that 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: a fair assessment. 46 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: I think it's a very fair it's a very accurate assessment. 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: I think they also saw that the occasional crudity of 48 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was almost a mechanism and their desperation that 49 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: was necessary to get the attention of the elites. In 50 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: other words, they wanted somebody who wouldn't equivocate and didn't 51 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: come from that milieu. And so they were really saying, 52 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: your agenda has no support, and yet you're ramming it 53 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: down our throats, so you won't listen to us, and 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: you make fun of us, You call us garbage, deplorables. 55 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: They were deemables, clingers, chumps, dregs. These are all pejoratives 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: at Biden and Obama and the Clintons of us. And 57 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: you forced us to do this. But we have now 58 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: a champion, and he's going to cut through all of 59 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: this and remind you that we run the country in 60 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: not Hollywood or the institutions, or's academia Silicon Valley. And 61 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: so they were in a complete bubble about what this 62 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: earthquake was about to hit them, or this storm. Everybody 63 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: could see it. I think some of them saw it, 64 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: but the media felt in the last seventy two hours 65 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: maybe or four days, if they rigged a poll in Iowa, 66 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: or they said that it was dead even or that 67 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: the Senate was going to be held by the Democrats, 68 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: that would either get people to the polls or it 69 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: would raise money or create momentum. But John, there were 70 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: so many indicators that would prove what mister Kelly said 71 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: that the registrations were an all time high for Republicans. 72 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: They had gained six hundred thousand registrations since the last 73 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: time they contested Pennsylvania in twenty twenty. They had been 74 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: completely dumbfounded in twenty twenty on non election day balloting, 75 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: and yet they had more people non election day ballot. 76 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: They mastered the art of early and mail in balloting 77 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: than the Democrats. They got almost twenty five percent of 78 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Black males. That really and then that wasn't really the 79 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: key statistic. Black males who did not vote for Donald 80 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: Trump stayed home, and so these big centers that they 81 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: count on to swarm rural areas in Detroit, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia 82 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: were not there in sufficient numbers. They said there was 83 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: a female gap and that Donald Trump was a sexist 84 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: and he had alienated women. He got in many states, 85 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: he got more suburban white women than he did than 86 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: did Harris. The Hispanic vote, and we've talked about that. 87 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: I had never seen a and I live in a 88 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Mexican American community overwhelmingly so, but I had not talked 89 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: to a Mexican American over the age of forty male 90 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: male who was going to vote for Kamala Harris. And 91 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: that had not been true. In twenty sixteen. They even 92 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: had the Omish going out. They worked the Arab American 93 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: Muslim vault, they split the Jewish vault, which usually is 94 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: seventy thirty. All of that was known to the posters 95 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: and to the media, and yet they kept telling us 96 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump was dumbfounded by Saturday Night Live, that 97 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump had threatened to kill Liz Cheney, that Donald 98 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Trump wanted to kill the media, and they didn't. Everybody 99 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: got sick of them. They didn't like to be lectured to, 100 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: and they knew what was going to happen. Everybody that 101 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: I knew from the middle classes thought Donald Trump was 102 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: going to win, and I could feel it. 103 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: The pick to the reality is is it looks to 104 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: be the case from here all the money, all the celebrities, 105 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: all the so called influences. Most of the media were 106 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: absolutely one sided and painting Trump as a threat to democracy. 107 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: This is surely actually in the end a win for 108 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: democracy because people saw brutal They had not the mugs 109 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: that the elites take them to be. 110 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: No, they as you say, they had academia, Hollywood entertainment, 111 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: the celebrities, the money, Wall Street, the foundations. All they 112 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: lacked was the people because their agenda they had lied 113 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: to the American people. They had said Donald Trump was 114 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: a disruptor, a disuniter, and we under old Joe Biden 115 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: from Scranton in twenty twenty will unite the country under moderation, 116 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: And that was a complete lie. They used him as 117 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: a vessel and empty vessel for an Obama extreme agenda 118 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: of open borders with no health or background checks, twelve 119 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: million illegal aliens, uninhabitable downtown of our major cities. They 120 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: were overridden with crime, an attack on fossil fuels, nuclear power. 121 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: A disasters for foreign policy that you could define it 122 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: by the Afghanistan debacle, or the two wars in Ukraine 123 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: on the Middle East, or the Chinese balloon or China 124 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: threat to quot in Taiwan. 125 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: More Victor Davis Hanson, Why Trump won the twenty twenty 126 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: four and I coming up. They remain scared to death 127 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: of you, and they remained scared to death of Trump. 128 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: Michael Barry Show. 129 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: You're not going anywhere even if Trump does. You're not. 130 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: So I'm turning over. 131 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: Some of our space to something we and that is 132 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: Victor Davis Hanson's why Trump won the twenty twenty four election. 133 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: We thought it was rather insightful and we wanted to 134 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: share it with you. We won't be able to get 135 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 4: to all of it on the show today. This is 136 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: something that we I know, Ramon, I got it. Yes, 137 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: can I finish? 138 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: So? 139 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: Uh, it's amazing things I have to do while we're 140 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: most distracted me. Anyway, we thought it was really good 141 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: and so we pulled a few from it. In case 142 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 4: you don't get to listen to the entire Saturday podcast. 143 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: Here here's Victor Davis Hanson on why Trump won the 144 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four election. 145 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: Did you see yourself or imagine such a disasive victory? 146 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Did I imagine the victory such a defausive victory? 147 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: Is? 148 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he had a good chance of winning 149 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:29,359 Speaker 1: the popular vote just because if you have a Republican candidate, 150 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: and the way it works here, as you know, they 151 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: lose the urban areas and the minority votes, and they 152 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: count on the rural areas. And under the Obama massaging, 153 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: those urban areas had reached such a you know, when 154 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: Obama ran in twenty twelve against Romney for reelection, he 155 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: won one precinct in Philadelphia, very dubiously, so thirty thousand 156 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: to one. How can you ever make that out When 157 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: you hear that Donald Trump was going to get half 158 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: of the Latino vote, or he was going to get 159 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the Black vote, or he was 160 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: going to get union people or the United auto Workers 161 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: or the Teamsters. That hasn't happened here. And this was 162 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: a man that they said was racist and polarizing and hateful. 163 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: And then when you saw that suburban white women were 164 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: going over him at the time, we were told all 165 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: they care about his abortion on demand. Yeah, you can 166 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: see that he had made inroads. And you had to 167 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: superimpose that fact on the reality that unlike a Bob 168 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: Dole or Mitt Romney or John McCain, he had a 169 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: fanatical base in rural and small town America, and I 170 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: mean fanatical is defined by they would do anything to 171 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: vote for him. If there's a hurricane in rural North Carolina, 172 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: that didn't matter. They were going to get out and 173 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: win in that state. Nobody had ever seen such loyalty 174 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: by these irredeemables. These were the people of East Palestine 175 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: and Ohio that the administration completely ignored when they had 176 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: a toxic fume. They are the people that were in 177 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: the hurricane damage that they were very tardy in helping. 178 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: And so I think it's a very good lesson because 179 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: it's democracy and representative democracy in its best form. You 180 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: know what another irony we were told John that with 181 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the National Voters Compact that the Blue states had were 182 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: only sixty one votes short of getting rid of the 183 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: electoral College, which has a lot of constitutional protections in 184 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: it and has a long history of utility for both sides. 185 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: And these state legislatures had voted to go around the 186 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: amendment process, which they could never do. You need two 187 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: thirds of Congress, three fourths of the state and just 188 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: have the states adhere to the national vote and reject 189 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: the state vote. Because they were sure they were going 190 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: to win the national vote, and they had won the 191 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: national every national vote since two thousand and four, for 192 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: twenty years, and they hadn't They a Republican hadn't gotten 193 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: fifty one percent of the majority vote since nineteen eighty eight. 194 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: And guess what. Donald Trump was the first person in 195 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: twenty years on the Republican side to win the popular vote. 196 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: He will probably be the first republicans' ninety eighty eight 197 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: to win fifty one percent of the popular vote. And 198 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: all the states that swore in pass legislation they would 199 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: unconstitutionally reflect the national vote. They're not doing it. California 200 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: is pledging all of its electors to Harris, who won 201 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: the states as they should. So the more that the 202 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: aftermath is really making the left look pretty bad. 203 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: He moved. Trump moved quite quickly in his acceptance speech, 204 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: victory speech, whatever you might choose to call it, to 205 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: say that he would seek to heal America, given that 206 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: he may in fact have secured that first majority vote 207 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: for so long and so forth is in a position 208 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: to do so. America looks so bifurcated, so at war 209 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: with itself. I mean, the constant him as a fascist. 210 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: He is people apparently don't know what the word means. 211 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: Oh. I must remember that after twenty sixteen, after they 212 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: were he and Hillary, she was calling him a Russian 213 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: agent and he was calling her quick and Hillary. Everybody 214 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: thought that given she had destroyed thirty thousand emails and 215 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: the devices upon them and they were under subpoena, that 216 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: he would have the dojgo after And what do you say? 217 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: The first thing he said, she's suffered enough. People went 218 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: to him and said, you've got to fire James Comey, 219 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: the director of the FBI. He tried to sabotage. I'm 220 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: not going to do that. He never did any of that. 221 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: But how can he heal the country when Latita James, 222 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: a prosecutor in New York who tried to bankrupt him, 223 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: has said that she's going to press down. How can 224 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: you do when Alvin Bragg at the end of the 225 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: month is going to try to put him in jail, 226 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: and Jack Smith has re indicted him, a federal prosecutor 227 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: for all of these were minor matters. That know whether 228 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: prosecutor would have picked up They've never done it against 229 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: the next president. And now we're facing a situation where 230 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: the left is openly saying well, we may have lost 231 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: the election, but maybe Fanny Willis or Latita James or 232 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg or Jack Smith can put him in jail, 233 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: and that would cause the constitution crisis. He's been two 234 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: people try to shoot him. People are very afraid of 235 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: his health in the next ninety days until he takes power. 236 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Everybody had heard a new Kamala Harris that had rejected 237 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: thirty years of her radical, very radical socialist agendas to 238 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: be palatable. But everybody now is so cynical. They know 239 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: that when she has ninety days left on her vice 240 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: presidential tenure, she'll just revert back to what she was 241 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: before the campaign. So the hostility is coming from the left, 242 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: and it's always been that way in this cycle of 243 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: politics that we've seen. There's something about Donald Trump that 244 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: and you see it in your country. You see it 245 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: in Europe. Among wealthy elites, educated elites. They feel that 246 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: he you should not represent them, even though he has 247 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: constitutionally won that privilege of representing, they still don't want 248 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: him to be represented by. 249 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: Him more Victor Davis Hanson Why Trump won the twenty 250 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: twenty four Americans. 251 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: A nation that can be defined in a single word, 252 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: I was going to pot him number nine. Not only frontier. 253 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Gibbery expressed the cry scene of the state of the 254 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: Michael Berry Show. Most of that talk too much and 255 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: just to play it. 256 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: So here is why Trump won the twenty twenty four election. 257 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: These are some clips we pulled from Victor Davis Hanson 258 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: that we really liked. 259 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: But here give it a listen. 260 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: He will return to Washington, presumably vastly more experienced. 261 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: He now. 262 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: Knows I think how the place works. Yes, and he 263 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: will know. I would imagine who are real change agents 264 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: and who to put who to build around him if 265 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: you like a good team around himself that presumably with 266 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: a sympathetic House and Congress, as it appears he will have. 267 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: The Cynics might say that will give him unfettered power. 268 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: Others might say it will help him govern in a 269 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: very clean way. To respond, let's face it to America's 270 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: vital concerns. The economy is not doing well for them, 271 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: immigration is a problem, and the elites and their wokism 272 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: are mad. He will know now much more effectively how 273 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: to start to change these things. 274 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 5: Would that be a fair assessment, Yeah, I think it is. 275 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: He doesn't see that as radical. He sees that. He's 276 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 5: called it common sense. He's taken example of Mexico. Mexico 277 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: is sent by deliberation twelve million illegals. 278 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Here. We have three hundred and fifty thousand people with 279 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: criminal records that were knowingly let in from Latin America 280 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: and Mexico. They've committed horrendous crimes. We have the cortels 281 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: that have killed indirectly but by design in a way, 282 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: by masking fentanyl with prescription drugs and candy, even one 283 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: hundred thousand Americans. And Biden was so afraid to say 284 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: anything to Mexican first Saint Trump said, and he even 285 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: said it before the election. I'm going to call the 286 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: president of Mexico up and I'm going to say, no 287 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: more fentanyl and no more illegalation immigration. I'm going to 288 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: slap a twenty five percent tariff on you, and I'm 289 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: going to probably tax your remittance. If you get sixty billion, 290 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: we'll see how you like it. And he's serious about that. 291 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: He's not trying to bully people, but he does things 292 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: like that. So if you have an international incident where 293 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: Australia isn't a very vulnerable to take your country and 294 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: they feel that they need the support and encouragement of 295 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: the United States. He's not going if he believes that. 296 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: If he were to agree with you, he's not going 297 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: to call up and say, well, on the one hand, 298 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: on the other hand, he would say what do you need, 299 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: when do you need it? And I'll do it. And 300 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: that's the type of ally he is. He's not wish 301 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: you and that's what bothers the left. They think in 302 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: nuances are in gradations and incrementalism. He's not that. For 303 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: better or worse. He's very decisive. He's not reckless, but 304 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: he's very decisive, and he moves very decisively with China, 305 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: with Russia, with the radical Islamic world. And if you 306 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: think what he said he was going to do in 307 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, he said he was going to 308 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: get rid of Isis. In fact, they use the bulgarity. 309 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to bomb the shi t out of them. 310 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: He said he was going to deal with the Iranians 311 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: who had killed Americans in Iraq. That was Solomani. He 312 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: said that he was going to cut off Iran and 313 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: brankrupt him. He almost did. He would have if they 314 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: hadn't uplifted the sanction all of those things he did. 315 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: And I was talking to, you know, to some Israelis diplomats, 316 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: and they said, we've had so many sophisticated people who 317 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: knew the Middle East, and we've asked them for support, 318 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: and they always give us a thousand reasons why they 319 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. They were asking me, as an American, 320 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: what is it with your president? He came over here 321 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: and our team said to him, we'd like to finally 322 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: get the embassy in Jerusalem. He said, it always belonged there. 323 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: And then they said they keep talking about the Golden 324 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: Heights Israeli. He said, yes, it is, that's done. And 325 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: then they said, in Iran is the cause of all 326 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: these problems. Is there any chance that we could discuss 327 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: the Iran deal or the one hundred billion in oil revenue. 328 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: He said, they're done, We're out of the Iran deal. 329 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: We're going to get this. And then they would say 330 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: things like the Huthis are terrorists, but no American would 331 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: wants to ruffle their fair. Well, we'll just call them terrorists. 332 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: And as this diplomat spoke to me, he said he 333 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: did more for Israel that needed to be done, not 334 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: just because he liked Israel, but we're fair and we're 335 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: for the greater good of the Middle East. He did 336 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: more in two months than the last fifty years of 337 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: American presidencies. And he said the odd thing about it 338 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: was he probably was not a sophisticated are as well 339 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: read in the intricacies and the nuances of Middle East 340 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: history and diplomacy. But he had an innate, I mean, 341 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: and sense of Moraley what had to be done and 342 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: why it wasn't done. And so that's why he's kind 343 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: of you know, yo to Israel today, and he doesn't 344 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: mention Israel much, he doesn't really talk about it, but 345 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: when you go to Israel, he's almost a sainted figure 346 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: because he did more for the autonomy of Israel than 347 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: any other president has done. And yet he didn't really 348 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: He may John have got forty percent of the Muslim 349 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: vote in Michigan, the more the left hand or two. Yeah, 350 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: he did. Part of it was one of his daughters. 351 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: In the waste. 352 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: We do have a look in the wish that there 353 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: are many many people in the Middle East who are 354 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: quality cheering Israelan because they're frightened of Iran. 355 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: Yes, he did, and he was he made the argument 356 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: that Hamas does not represent or it may have been 357 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: elected once, but it's not in the interests of the 358 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: people of Gaza that Iran. If you cut off the 359 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: head of the snake, then people would be free to 360 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: deal with Hesbealaon and Hamas and the UTIs. A lot 361 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: of people from the Middle East appreciate that, and so 362 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: I think it's an exciting time. We'll see if he 363 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: gets good people around him. One of the problems that 364 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: when you talk to people surrounding him in twenty sixteen, 365 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: no one wanted to work for him, the Maverick, the Outsider. 366 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, it was sort of he had a team. 367 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Now they're getting six and seven applications for even minor position. 368 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to work for Donald Trump. And I don't 369 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: know if he's going to be able to filter out. 370 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: But suddenly the thing in Washington is all of these 371 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: never Trump. Anybody wants to be part of this team. 372 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: They're very excited, and they're going to have a terrible 373 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: time trying to find people who will not do what 374 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: happened last time with the anonymous the person in Homeland 375 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: Security that was bragging to The New York Times and 376 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: he was sort of an insurrectionist and derailing executive orders 377 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: or people in the Defense Department that were overriding Trump's orders. 378 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: He's got to get a team that is loyal, but 379 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: he's got so many people that want to participate. 380 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: He did say, as I understand it, at one point, 381 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: that Israeli should go after Iran's nuclear capability. Presumably he's 382 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: likely to revisit that, and presumably the Iranians are now 383 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: deeply concerned because plainly they've been hit much harder already 384 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: by the Israelis, and they're admitting plainly they now know 385 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 2: that Israeli is highly effective with American encouragement. I would 386 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: have thought the Israelis could do a men's damage to 387 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: Iran and they would be extraordinarily subdued by that. 388 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: At the moment, Yeah, I would say that because of 389 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: you have a lot of people RFK Tulci Gabbard around him, 390 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: and he is campaigned strenuously against optional military wars in 391 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: the Middle East, especially land engagements. Cost of benefit analysis, 392 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: these are not worth it. But as I understand, his 393 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: message to Netan Yahoo is it would be better for 394 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: you if you feel that Iran is going to attack 395 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: you again, either to write it out and then take 396 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: it in retaliation. Given the Trump to take out the 397 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: nuclear facilities, their military bases, they're oil before I'm president, 398 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: that would be easier. So that is the message that 399 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: I think he's telling me. 400 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: Israelis more Victor Davis Hanson, Why Trump won the twenty 401 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: twenty four elected Coming up. 402 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: And you listen to the Michael Berry Show. 403 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: Good not. 404 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: The final segment of the show. 405 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: We don't normally do serious in the last segment of 406 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: the show, but today I wanted to get to this. 407 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: It's really good. 408 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: It's important that we understand why we won this election. 409 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: What did Gordon Bethune say, Tell him what you're going 410 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 4: to do, do it, and then tell them what you did. 411 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: It's important that we own the narrative of why we 412 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: won this election. 413 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: We know, of course that he he doesn't like the 414 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: leader of North Korea very much, refers to him as 415 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 2: a little rocketman. Little Rocketman appears to be supplying mercenaries 416 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: and quite substantial numbers to Russia. I would imagine Trump 417 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: will be onto that one very quickly. 418 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I think so he was last time. Even there though 419 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: he confounded the left, The left started out saying that 420 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: he was too mean, he was too reckless. When he said, 421 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: my button's bigger than yours. He came in where North 422 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: Korea was just being a very useful bulldog that the 423 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm a master cut loose and caused havoc, and then 424 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: China kind of chuckled about it. And when they started 425 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: threatening to send missiles into the West Coast, Trump was 426 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: alarmed and said, I have a bigger button than you do, 427 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: and we can do the same thing to you, and 428 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: ours will work. He said, ours will work. The left 429 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: went crazy, and then he did what everybody who read 430 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: any of his books or followed his career knew he 431 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: would do. He wrote a letter to North Korea and said, 432 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: this is not in your interest to be on the 433 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: wrong side of my administration. I'm willing to talk. They talked, 434 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: and then he did exactly what he wrote about in 435 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: his books. He said, I like mister Kim Jong un. 436 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: We can cut a deal. I didn't find him to 437 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: be a monster. If you read anything he wrote about. 438 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: That's what he always said. When you make a deal, 439 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: you do not insult your opposition, and then when you 440 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: make the deal, you make sure you get an advantage 441 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: and then after the deal is over, you did not 442 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: privately ridicule him, that you praise him to the skies. 443 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what he does. So I would imagine 444 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: that he would tell Kim Jong un in stage one, 445 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: what you're doing is unacceptable. If you keep doing it, 446 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: it's going to end badly for you. Then stage two 447 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: is I'm willing to make a deal, and then make 448 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: some kind of deal and then praise Kim johng un. 449 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: And that's where the left came in and said, look 450 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: at this, he's praising a dictator, even though he had 451 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: just they had just told us that he's deliberately antagonizing 452 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: a dictator. They had no idea the modus operandi of 453 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: how he works, but it was working, and it worked 454 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: with Putin, and it worked with Chi and we didn't 455 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: have a war, and it worked with the radical Islamises. 456 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: As soon as he did this, he said, Iran is 457 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: an outlaw nation. He killed Solomani. No one even dared 458 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: to do that. He bombed the crap, he said, out 459 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: of Isis. And then he Iran called him up and said, 460 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: you've made us look ridiculous, and Trump said, well, I'm 461 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: about ready to hit you, and they said, can we 462 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: send sixteen or seventeen missiles over to you in Iraq 463 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: and Syrian get close to your base, will tell you 464 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: the time and the location. Put everybody in and it'll 465 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: save it. So he said, yeah, as long as you 466 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: don't kill one American. If you kill one American, we're 467 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: going to send a salvo. So there's some disagreement. The 468 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: military felt some people suffered shell shock from the but 469 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: the Iranians basically did what they said they were going 470 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: to do it. It was a put tempkin attack. And 471 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: then Trump didn't cause a war, but Iran behaved, and 472 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: then he put sanctions on and yet they criticized him 473 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: for that. They said he was provoking a war with Iran. 474 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: And then when Iran didn't do anything and back down, 475 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: and they said, well, they send missiles in and he 476 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: didn't reply to them. He didn't care America. So we 477 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: got to the point whatever he did they were going 478 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: to criticize, but it all had utility, and they haven't 479 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 1: come up with any formula or solution that improved on 480 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: his own. And as soon as he left the world 481 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: fell apart. It really did. 482 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: What does bring us to presidency there's a general view 483 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: in many quarters at the next four or five years, 484 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: in other words, during the next presidential term, it is 485 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: the most dangerous time of all the warnings that the 486 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: Chinese military has been told to be ready by twenty 487 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: twenty seven to take Taiwan by force it necessary. I 488 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: would imagine that Trump's reelection is hardly being welcomed in 489 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: Beijing today. 490 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: No, it is not welcomed. And of course, on the 491 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: far there was always a conspiracy theory because of the 492 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: lab nique that people felt. I don't subscribe to that, 493 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: but this is a sign of what the right thought 494 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: of China. They felt that the cold COVID that originated 495 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: in China was somehow connected to the Chinese fear of 496 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: dom pumping and wanting them out. When in November of 497 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and was almost sure that he was going 498 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: to be re elected, he was ahead of the polls. 499 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: He would have been re elected if it had not 500 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: been for COVID and the lockdown. And then the George 501 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: Floyd ryots, which I think in themselves were a result 502 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: of the lockdown their intensity. So China realizes that for 503 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: all the talk about there, they are ascendant, and they 504 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: are all powerful, and they have a bigger military. They 505 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: still have I think in most economists will agree that 506 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: they still have only about seventy to eight eighty percent 507 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: of our GDP. They have four times the population, and 508 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 1: of very crude form nations, that takes four Chinese workers 509 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: to approximate seventy percent of what one worker does in 510 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: the United States. We're a very productive society and in 511 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: many areas. For all of the Chinese stealing and copying, 512 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: we're much more pre eminent. And under Trump, I think 513 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: China will be faced with a lot of things that 514 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 1: is going to bother them. They have over three hundred 515 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: thousand students come here. Most people think two or three 516 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: percent are actively engaged in espionage. I don't think that's 517 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: going to continue. I think that they have a lot 518 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: of asymmetrical tariffs. They know that. I think for everyone, 519 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: Trump will try to outdo their tariffs. Not a blanket tarraff, 520 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: but a tit for tat. I think he will tell 521 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: the Chinese, if you go and bully the Taiwanese, or 522 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: the Philippines or any of our more prominent allies, we 523 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: have ways of retaliate against you, and we will do that. 524 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: And we wish you wouldn't do that. The thing about 525 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: it so strange is that under prior Republican administrators candidates 526 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: that believed in the same theory of deterrence as Trump, 527 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: there was kind of a bragadaccio that was different than Trump's. 528 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: They actually would kind of brag that we want to 529 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: get go to war with him or something. Trump talks 530 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: a great game, but he does not want to destroy 531 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: relations with China or any of our adversaries. He just 532 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: wants to remind them that they have overreached and what 533 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: they're doing is not in their interests and they will 534 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: stop it. But he doesn't really want to go to war. 535 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: And there's no idea of going into Iraq or Afghanistan 536 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: or bombing Libya like Hillary did to create some type 537 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: of utopia. He doesn't have any dreams like that. It's 538 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: all Jacksonian and he wants to protect the Western world. 539 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: And when I go to Europe, it's very bizarre John 540 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: to hear people who are going to be beneficiaries of 541 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: Trump's foreign policy damn him and then praise people who 542 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: would not lift a finger to help Europe in a crisis. 543 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: Or would you know what Trump said to the Germans. 544 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: You're playing with fire with a Norstern pipeline number two, 545 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: and you're heavily dependent on natural gas, and we better 546 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: stop that for your own benefit.