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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 2: And them and Tie Dannervin ste Wak three is upawn us.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast My good friend, How goes

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Speaker 1: it today?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's so good, Tie, It's so excellent to be

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Speaker 2: here with you. I love these kind of weeks where

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Speaker 2: it's the first glance.

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Speaker 1: Man, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll watch a lot of Indiana UCLA at night.

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Speaker 2: Or man, I wish this team were a little bit

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Speaker 2: better to get like my appetite, a little bit more

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Speaker 2: growling at three point thirty eastern or whatever. But these

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Speaker 2: are the weeks, Tie, These are those weeks. You know

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Speaker 2: how it works where the obvious headliners are not jumping

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Speaker 2: out to you. That's somebody's gonna get snatched from underneath.

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Speaker 1: Tie. You know that it's always the quiet ones? Is

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Speaker 1: it not always the quiet ones? It is always the

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Speaker 1: quiet ones. Welcome back in. I'm tying, he is Dan.

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Speaker 1: This is a solibrable college football podcast. Hit follow, hit

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Speaker 1: subscribe if you've already done that. Please tell your friends.

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Speaker 1: We are growing like a weed here Dan. It is

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Speaker 1: the season's the reason for the season. As we talk

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Speaker 1: all things college football every Sunday, every Tuesday, every Thursday.

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Speaker 1: You could tune in, of course at midnight on Saturday

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Speaker 1: if you really want to be there on the bleeding

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Speaker 1: edge as we react to all that was in the

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Speaker 1: world of college football. This is going to be an

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Speaker 1: interesting week for us. So I looked at the point

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Speaker 1: spreads as you described. I do not feel confident about

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Speaker 1: most of them. That being said, I will add, and

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Speaker 1: I'm jinxing myself by saying this, I should probably just

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Speaker 1: shut up. Wam ahead the last two Saturdays of college

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Speaker 1: football bets that I've put into my personal account. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thirteen and oh thirteen and oh so I've hit the

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Speaker 1: last two locks, right, I didn't hit it in a

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, but I hit the last two, and then

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Speaker 1: many of the other bets that I've talked about on

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Speaker 1: this show been using those and I've been incredibly lucky.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see now if it goes belly up in

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Speaker 1: week three, which is usually how this works with the

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Speaker 2: Is there a type of bet? Is there a conference?

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Speaker 2: Is there a specialty in You're thirteen?

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Speaker 1: And oh no, there's no specialty. I stay away from

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Speaker 1: the parlays because the parlays have felled many a great

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Speaker 1: betting man, and I'm just sticking to what we talk

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Speaker 1: about on this show. So you know, I think if

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Speaker 1: you take our picks in totality, they're probably around five hundred.

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Speaker 1: It sweet usually works. But at least the ones that

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Speaker 1: if you're new here, I'm doing my best to share

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Speaker 1: some of that. Well, yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I don't know if you want to get

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Speaker 1: You tell me, no, please, What do you got?

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Speaker 2: Well, So I'm looking at the late I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: Sauerkraut Saturday. We've done Centaurs Saturday.

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Speaker 1: going out to her ballers dot Com. We are doing

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Speaker 1: on this Cinemax Saturday, Dan, we have a very interesting slate.

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Speaker 1: some of the other knick knacks going on around college football.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with West Virginia versus this pit

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Speaker 1: Not much to talk about there now. West Virginia won

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Speaker 1: But it's West Virginia, right, so.

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Speaker 2: You're not, you know, losing track of what's in front

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Speaker 2: of you so Pitt with home field advantage, with more

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Speaker 2: who they are in Week one, but in a rivalry

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Speaker 2: I want to see more offense. That to me is

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Speaker 1: Kurrent line is two in favor of West Virginia on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they've earned that that home favor.

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Speaker 2: It's saying that road favorite status. So I'm going Pitt

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Speaker 1: Rivalry that's really interesting. So the early stats here say

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Speaker 1: we throw out all that stuff anyway. For me, this

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Speaker 1: isn't a Shanti game, Dan, It's about trust, babe, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who is trust though? My trust is West Virginia and

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Speaker 1: Garrett Green. That's why I trust here. We know they

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Speaker 1: Bell he was running the offense for Western Carolina. They're

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Speaker 1: Good one good dust. Yeah. And to be clear, by

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your final score? I'm gonna go Pitt thirty

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Speaker 1: Okay, we disagree, We disagree right off the bat. Another

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Speaker 2: If you're going to point to one like overarching thing

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Speaker 1: Okay. My concern is that Oregon State looks pretty committed

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Speaker 2: What Anthony Hankerson and Jam Griffin in the backfield for

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Speaker 2: Oregon did actually like they on a few plays they

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Speaker 2: the situation. I'm not terribly worried about the Oregon State

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I suppose it could change. I just don't think the

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Speaker 2: to stay with Oregon. So to me, if Oregon and

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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, right, And we're trying to

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Speaker 2: live in reality here. But to me, this number is

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Speaker 2: So if Oregon is eventually going to look somewhere in

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Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from with that, And to

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Speaker 1: This is going to be something to follow because Oregon,

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Speaker 1: Oregon States look quite good. They won twenty one nothing

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Speaker 2: Oregon States, by the way, lost a lot of quality

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's incredible that they've looked good in

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Speaker 1: Saiyan and win by like twenty seven points. Yeah. My

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Speaker 1: We know this game is meaningful to Oregon State. I

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's interesting. Remember there is you know, personal Dan Lanning, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what's your final score? I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: you. You'd like that. I would like that. Yes, three point

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Speaker 1: and one half point favorite. Dan, we're living in a

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Speaker 2: After watching Rewatching and watching back the uh the Wazoo

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Speaker 1: I like the running back next to him. It's way god,

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Speaker 2: Name Wasyshawn Parker? Wyshawn Parker? Yes, I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's much of a passer. The game

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Speaker 1: They're calling it now. I think.

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Speaker 2: It was close last year with the most successful Washington

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Speaker 2: of the end. It was close. Now it's not a

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Speaker 2: And it's another one of those matchups that's going to

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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Wazoo also lost their ad to Washington, right, Yes, that

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Speaker 1: That was the thing. We did a video on it

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Speaker 1: They've scored one hundred and seven points so far in

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Speaker 1: My concern with Wazoo is whether they're a one trick

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Speaker 1: a game like this, too many penalties for Washington really

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00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 1: bad starting field position on offense, I mean really bad. Yeah,

434
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 1: but Will Rogers has been solid, He's gotten better. Jonah

435
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: Coleman at running back looks really good on the ground.

436
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like this line is way too low.

437
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: I really do. I'm actually going in the complete opposite

438
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: direction as you. Okay, I feel about Washington the way

439
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: you felt about Oregon. I think it's something like thirty

440
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: seven to twenty Washington. I think they run away with it.

441
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there Washington might be more gettable than

442
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 2: we realize on the ground, which is a specific nice

443
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: matchup for Wazoo. I just this is a fully new

444
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 2: team that I'm just not confident in anything in either

445
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: direction with Washington, Whereas at least with Wazoo, with coaching continuity,

446
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: coordinator continuity, and now that the offensive staff, Zoo has

447
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: a better concept of what John Matteer can do well,

448
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: which has move the ball with his feet. After what

449
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 2: they've seen in live action against the quality team, I don't.

450
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 2: I think they're more tested. I think they have more juice,

451
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: and I'm ready for it.

452
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: You are a material girl, through and through. I am

453
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: all right. Let's travel back in time for a second.

454
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: If we can to twelve pm on Fox, it is

455
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: Alabama minus sixteen on the road at Wisconsin. Madison's going

456
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: to be rocking for this one. Dan a great non

457
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: conference matchup. I'm not sure that Tyler van Dijk from

458
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one is walking through that door, but it

459
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: is cool that we get this matchup. I like this matchup.

460
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a fun game,

461
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: if nothing more for Wisconsin fans to go and see

462
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: with their own eyes. So what we see if we

463
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: look at numbers again, not to make it all about

464
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 1: that through two weeks, Wisconsin has generated basically no big plays.

465
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 1: They're one of the three least explosive teams in college football.

466
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: And the telling stat for me, I like my air

467
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: yards one hundred and nineteenth in air yards per target.

468
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: So it's not even really trying to shresh the field. No,

469
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: they are sort of playing like their Iowa North and

470
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: that type of thing might work in a knife fight

471
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: against Minnesota Perdue. I don't know, Look, he says derisively. Yeah,

472
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: it's not going to work against a really fast Alabama

473
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: defense that can stack the box, that can dared Tyler

474
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: van Dyke to beat him deep. So I'm I think

475
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: we're probably both leaning in the same direction. It's a

476
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: question of the point spread. Where are you at with

477
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: this one man. I went back and forth it what's

478
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: the sixteen points? Sixteen?

479
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So you have to like Wisconsin on a certain

480
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: level if you think that they are going to make

481
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: truly make this a game. When you look at what

482
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: ailed Alabama last week as they went I think all

483
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: but the last like six minutes, six or seven minutes

484
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: is when they started pouring it on. They made an

485
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: offensive line change whatever is. It was dumb turnovers, penalties

486
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 2: and it was I think you I was like, especially

487
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: atrocious on third down, right, it was just they were

488
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: getting Byron Brown with his legs, extending drives, whatever it

489
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: was on first and second down. Tyler Van Dyke is

490
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: not Byron Brown athletically, right, He's not going to be

491
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: able to make those types of plays when things break down.

492
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: So you have to like Wisconsin on a certain level.

493
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: And you have to like something about Wisconsin on offense.

494
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: And if you don't like Tyler Van Dyke and you

495
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 2: don't like that their receivers don't have consistent pop, like, well,

496
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: maybe they can run the ball. I don't think chez

497
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: Meluci has averaged four yards in a game in Wisconsin's

498
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: opening too, right, He's gotten the most carries, I believe,

499
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: and is not averaging. He's like three yards per carry

500
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: against North Dakota and whoever, who do they play? In

501
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: Week one, Wisconsin played another team that you can't base

502
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: a lot on and he still wasn't running all that well.

503
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Speaker 1: Right, So.

504
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 2: It's a big number. But I can't make the pace

505
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 2: for Wisconsin's offense, even though they're at home. Even though

506
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: I think the Wisconsin defense is good, I just I

507
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: don't think you can make the case that they can

508
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: sludge it up for more than two and a half

509
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: three quarters here. So I think Alabama's going to cover.

510
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: I really do.

511
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: I do think that the defense can hold its own

512
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, so do I. But they are

513
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: You're right, they're gonna need something from this offense. By

514
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: the way, Western Michigan in Week one was a team

515
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: you were trying to think of.

516
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: Western Michigan, excuse me, who also got shelled by Ohio

517
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: State in a much uglier fashion this past.

518
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: For sure, Wisconsin won that game twenty eight to fourteen.

519
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: They are still finding their way, still trying to build

520
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: this thing now under the tutelage of Luke Fickle, and

521
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: it's going to take a little bit I think to

522
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: get there, but I do not see the pop on

523
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: offense that leads me feeling confident they can cover the spread.

524
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: You're really relying on defense and more mistakes from Alabama,

525
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: and I historically, for me, that has not been a

526
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: winning formula for picking these games. So I think Bamer's

527
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: gonna I think Bama is going to hammer Wisconsin thirty

528
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: four to ten. I don't even think this is close, man.

529
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: It just the thing is on that same level though,

530
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 2: is like Alabama still needs to get its act together,

531
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: like they should have won last week much more comfortably

532
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: at home than they did. There was unfortunate passing, there

533
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: was miscommunications. Line play wasn't good. If your offensive line's

534
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: not in order and you're going against Wisconsin's defensive front,

535
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: I think you're still going to struggle. It's to me

536
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: a question still though, to repeat again, you gotta like

537
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: something about Wisconsin.

538
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: You do? You do? You can't just wish cast right,

539
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: You need to You need to point to something and say, aha,

540
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing, and maybe something will pop up

541
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: that we're not seeing that we haven't seen yet. But yeah,

542
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: and to your point about Alabama, it's true for Alabama.

543
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: It's true for LSU, it's true for Oklahoma, it's true

544
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: for Oregon, for Notre Dame. We could go right down

545
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: the list. You can call it cinemax or soft core

546
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: Saturday if you want. It's also a little bit of

547
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: a snap out of its Saturday too. Yeah, you're just

548
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: waiting for some of these teams to kind of revert

549
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: into the form that we all expected in the preseason. Bama.

550
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: Bama definitely rises to that level as well. So thirty

551
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: four to ten for me with your.

552
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: Final, I'm gonna go with, yeah, thirty one thirteen cover. Okay,

553
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: we agree, Yeah, we agree. High noon ABC, another SEC game.

554
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: It is LSU minus seven on the road versus South Carolina.

555
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: The early returns Dan on this new look, this big

556
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: money LSU defense, Yeah, not great.

557
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: Another sluggish start last week against Nichols. Yeah, if you

558
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: run the numbers right now, this projects is like an

559
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: eight and four team given where they're at. Fair They

560
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: have not stopped the pass a lick. They've had no success,

561
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: virtually no success running the ball, and now John Emery's

562
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: done for the year with a torn ACL which is

563
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: unfortunate my read on LSU, and I'm not trying to

564
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: push the panic button too much. This is a very

565
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: flawed team still, and they are sorting themselves out after

566
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: a lot of turnover from a year ago, especially in offense,

567
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: a terrible defensive year that they're still trying to organize

568
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: themselves in a better capacity in twenty twenty four. I

569
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: don't know if that changes against a hungry opponent in

570
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: their home stadium, but seven points is the line? Who

571
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: you got? I'm with you, though.

572
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: The only thing I'll disagree with you on is just

573
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: like it's one game and it was against USC who

574
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: won last second on a neutral field, and we don't

575
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: know exactly what USC is. But it's not fully fair

576
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: to judge LSU's defensive progress based solely on essentially a

577
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: game against a worthwhile opponent.

578
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: I'll due respect to Nichols.

579
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: South Carolina's interesting to me. South Carolina I was down

580
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: on as most people were. And what they haven't lost

581
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: went to Kentucky blew the doors, awful, killed them. I

582
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: have no idea if Lenora Sellers is good, but they

583
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: seem to be scheming up some really nice plays for him,

584
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: especially with him on the run. Some because the offensive

585
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: line has a ways to go to me. But he's

586
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: able to improvise. He's able to make plays. We'll see

587
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: on the ability for them to consistently run the ball.

588
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: But at home with that defensive line as dogs, what's

589
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 2: the line as of this recording home dog with a

590
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: good defensive front, if not very very strong playmaking quarterback?

591
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: Did you know that Nick Harbor had track speed tied?

592
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: I didn't familiar. Well, did you know that Leonora Sellers

593
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: has their respects too? Which is pretty Oh? I love

594
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: the rest. Look at me, Ty, you know I appreciate it. No,

595
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: I get it. Game days there, I believe you know.

596
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: I love the electricity of Williams. Price. I'm taking South

597
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: Carolina here. I'm not even thinking about it that much.

598
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: South Carolina is my home dog of the week, the Yokos.

599
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm riding the wave, Ty, if they get If they

600
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: lose by thirty, I'm out on South Carolina. If the

601
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: following week they win by thirty, I'm back in on

602
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: South Carolina.

603
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: I got them out right here. I do too. I

604
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: think so this You're right, this is a defense with

605
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: some dudes. I was high on this defense when I

606
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: did the preview back in July or whenever it was

607
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: August that we did it. I still think this is

608
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: going to be a team led by defense while the

609
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: offense figures out what it's supposed to be. Obviously, it's

610
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna look different now that Spencer Ratler's gone, but they're

611
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: just gonna do what they've done every year under Shane Biemer,

612
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be a royal pan the ass for

613
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: teams that come into Williams Brice, especially teams that are

614
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: perceived to be better than them. That's not to say

615
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: that Shane Biemer has always beaten those teams, but more

616
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: often than not, it feels to me like they're at

617
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: least in the game. I'm on South Carolina here, I

618
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: think it's the game of the day, and it's like

619
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty four, a really good matchup. You

620
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: know what gives me pause? Theive tie? What's this week

621
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: Cinemax Saturday? It's Cinemax Saturday.

622
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: Nash Surrender for Baby Danger.

623
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: And what happens on Cinemax tie? Is the Cox tend

624
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: to disappear?

625
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't know.

626
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: I may have cursed him. I'm still going South Carolina.

627
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: I've got pretty good right on the fly, Baby I'm

628
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: seventeen and we'll always be seven.

629
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: Twenty seven twenty four go Cox. That sounds right to me.

630
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: I'll agree with you on that score. Oh no, we've

631
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: gone off the rail seven point thirty ABC. Another SEC

632
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: game that we're gonna do quads. This is Georgia. Mine

633
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: is twenty four at Kentucky. Can I tell a story, please?

634
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: Flori's yours. I don't think you've ever heard. The story

635
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: actually is a college story for back back in the

636
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: days of your Do you ever have a friend get

637
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: in trouble and have to go to court? Of course?

638
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Do you ever go to court to support your friend? No? Okay,

639
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: I did, Okay. I had a friend and got picked

640
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: up for some nothing serious, but he had to go

641
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: to court, and he clearly did not understand the situation.

642
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: And so what happened was he rolls into court, he

643
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: realizes once he gets there the he needs a lawyer,

644
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have one. Was at that point that

645
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: a friend of mine stands up and says, I'll do

646
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: it smart. The next thirty minutes or so, I would

647
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: describe as one of the funniest experiences of my life. Truly,

648
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: like that arraignment scene, if you've seen my cousin Vinny,

649
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: where the judge's up there talking legalese and nobody's any

650
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: idea what's going on. At one point, my friend, the

651
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: stand in lawyer, turns around and mouths to us, what

652
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: the f like? What we're in the back dying all right?

653
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: Like hit by a wave at the beach, gets up

654
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: hit by another wave and the.

655
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: Judge is just rifled through all of these technical terms

656
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: and none of them have any clue what's going on.

657
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: So it worked.

658
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: There's Latin words in there. It worked out fine. Disxis

659
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: It worked out fine. But it was It was hysterical, right,

660
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: and something I've never forgotten the image of. And this

661
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: is my way of describing what happened to Kentucky last

662
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: week in South Carolina.

663
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: Wave after wave. Yeah, I it's like they panned the

664
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: whole game. What was that? What was that? They didn't

665
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: look prepared, It didn't look like they took it seriously.

666
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: At times. It was borderline funny. Was this Kentucky looking

667
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: ahead to Georgia? Is that what this was? If you're

668
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: a Kentucky fan, Dan, how are you not desponded? After that?

669
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: It was a tire fire it was horrible. And now

670
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: you and I this is the box they have forced

671
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: us into. We have to sit here on this show

672
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: and we have to serve. Jordan marn Is twenty four.

673
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Do we think Kentucky can cover South? A lot of

674
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: covered that. Yeah, of course Georgia could cover that, right,

675
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: So I have I want to pick Kentucky because I

676
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: like going underdogs, especially at home. Also, you gotta give

677
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: me something man or cats. Give me something to sink

678
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: my teeth into. I have nothing. That was horrible last week.

679
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: You're not gonna beat Georgia looking like that. Are you

680
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: kidding me? I actually desperately wanted to take Kentucky. So

681
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: did I.

682
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: It's, by the way, potential monsoon situation. It's gonna be

683
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 2: a very wet Lexington, Kentucky day.

684
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: Listen. I'm sorry if I come across as frustrated here,

685
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: but I'm just so much energy in the preseason, went

686
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: into previewing this team and studying this team and Brock

687
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: Vandergrid Remember we're vander grifters and throwing stuff here. Yeah,

688
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: they looked like regular grifters last week. That's what they

689
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: looked like. That was such an embarrassing performance for Kentucky.

690
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: I'm Georgia minus whatever. I don't even care forty five

691
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: fourteens my final. I think George is gonna destroy him.

692
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a look ahead spot last week for

693
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: Kentucky after South Carolina's down week. Maybe against ODU, maybe

694
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: they took the foot off the.

695
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: Get that offensive line was not good for Kentucky. It

696
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: was just not full on not good. Desperate to take

697
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Kentucky right, because what do I like to say? You're

698
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: not who you are on your best day, You're not

699
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: who you are on your worst day. And if that

700
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: was indeed Kentucky's worst day.

701
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: I just don't know.

702
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: If Brock vandergriff is the quarterback to keep this Kentucky

703
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: team in the game. I like and I still like Kentucky's.

704
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: Talent three of ten last week.

705
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, it's not ideal, not ideal heading into the

706
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: Georgia game. I don't have a good enough reason. Honestly.

707
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: The only reason I have is if if it's a

708
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: sloshy field or something in the rain, then Georgia is

709
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, we'll you know, we're up twenty eight ten,

710
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: twenty eight to thirteen. We'll just coast to the finish

711
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: line and move on. That would be my the only

712
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: thing I would have there. No, I don't have a

713
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: good reason with Kentucky. I'm going George, I'm gonna give

714
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: those points, and.

715
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't have the final score in front of you.

716
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: But I remember the game vividly a year ago. This

717
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: was the game. You may recall we had conversations in

718
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: the early part of the season last year with Georgia

719
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: where they were very built around the run, and we said, well,

720
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: if Carson Beck is in a position where they have

721
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: to turn him loose and he has to win a game,

722
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: can you do that? Because we hadn't seen it to

723
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: that point, and with Kentucky coming into Athens, they had

724
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: a good defense, all these things that at least promised

725
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: to test Georgia in new ways a year ago. Yeah,

726
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: and then that game was over within the first like

727
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: five minutes, and they let Carson Beck throw it and

728
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: Kentucky had no answer and they got destroyed. And so

729
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: I don't you know, George is gonna do this to

730
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: a lot of teams. Georgia did it to Clemson. I

731
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: just with what we saw last week from Kentucky. Unless

732
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: it was the greatest look ahead in the history of

733
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: look aheads forty five fourteen Georgia minus whatever.

734
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still hesitate in saying last week was exactly

735
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: who Kentucky is. We know that they can be that,

736
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: but I hesitate with that. And this is the biggest

737
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's by far the biggest home game for Kentucky,

738
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: although they do get Louisville at home to finish out

739
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 2: the season in the rivalry game. But that's what gives

740
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: me a little bit of pause here that this is

741
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: going to be as frenzied a home game as Kentucky

742
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: will have this year, at least until that game.

743
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

744
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: You still have to like something about this Kentucky offense

745
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: to me, and I don't, And like the Kentucky defense

746
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: looked lost. Lenora Sellers was throwing two wide open receivers

747
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: last week. Wide open, bought himself a little bit of time,

748
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: and there were guys running free down field. This wasn't

749
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: like a bunch of screens that went for seventy last week.

750
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: This was downfield passing. So yeah, I'm going Georgia.

751
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: Here, want to build some quads. Let's build some quads.

752
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: I think about the heart the passion, the love, the

753
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: commitment in the wh would you willing to put into it?

754
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: Don't make that sound. Don't make that sound on Cinemac Saturday, Ty,

755
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: be very careful.

756
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: Good point. Here's what we do. We've got a segment here.

757
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761
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Speaker 1: start early, Dan Rubinstein, give me your four. I think

766
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: four are your four? I believe? Okay, the ones you

767
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: have listed here. So it's bc AT.

768
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: Mazoo's favored by sixteen points seventeen. Now it's empty points.

769
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Miszoo has been locked down, especially on defense.

770
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see Memphis against Florida State. That's an

771
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: early what a nooner, Cincinnati against Miami of Ohio, to

772
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: whom they lost last year.

773
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: Chris correct in overtime.

774
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: I believe Arkansas State traveling to ann Arbor to take

775
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: on Michigan, although I did consider the main Green of

776
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: North Texas traveling to Texas Tech desperate to get their

777
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: act together after their first two weeks, it's been a

778
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: rough go.

779
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Miszoo has yet to give up a point this season.

780
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: Their defense has been crazy good. They haven't play anyone

781
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: decisely nobody. Yeah, but that's kind of beside the point.

782
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: On the per play basis, the stuff we look at,

783
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: they've been they've been really solid. And you know, BC's

784
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: two and zero ranked. Their preseason win total was five,

785
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: currently an eighty four percent chance of them getting to

786
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: six or more given their start, just saying nine to three.

787
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: BC dot Com still available just eighteen bucks. Yeah, I

788
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: did not buy it yet. I think Missoo's gonna hammer

789
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: BC in this game, and they're gonna hammer them. I

790
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: think they're a horse of a different color. I think

791
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: there's a huge talent gap here. You could, I guess

792
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: say that about Florida State versus Boston College as well,

793
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: and you'd be right. But BC won that game because

794
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: the Knowles couldn't do anything on offense and I don't

795
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: think that problem exists from Miszoo. They're going to be

796
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: able to move the ball. It will. I'm still committed

797
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: to the BC project under Bill Brian and I like

798
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: the start. Obviously, the start they've gotten off to has

799
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: been incredible. Thirty eight to seventeen Missoo wins going away

800
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: at home.

801
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be somewhat of a

802
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: crock potting. I don't think it's going to be from

803
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: the onset Miszoo. I think there's a certain amount of

804
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: belief and confidence that comes with what BC did in

805
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: Tallahassee that I think we'll have them ready for this

806
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: on the road. They are road tested, whereas Miszoo is

807
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: just not tested. So I think BC will throw a

808
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: little bit at them early. But yeah, I have Miszoo here.

809
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll call it thirty four fourteen. I

810
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: guess that covers it, right, yea, yeah, yeah. Florida State's

811
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: by block of the week, luck of the week. So

812
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: you look at this game, you say, Florida State at

813
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: home minus six and a half against Memphis. I did

814
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: a ton of pre work on Memphis back in July.

815
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: In previously they were the first team that I studied,

816
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: literally the first team that I studied, And what people

817
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: need to know about Memphis is that, genuinely it is

818
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: a good football team. Genuinely. They went out in the

819
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: transfer portal. They added twenty nine guys that could come

820
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: in and plug gaps or add depth or some combination

821
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: of the two. Right now, they're at about a twenty

822
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: three percent chance I saw of making the College Football Playoff.

823
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: They are in that conversation being a G five team

824
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: and a good one at that. This is the only

825
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: game the rest of the way that they're projected to lose,

826
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: and I still think it's a winnable game for Memphis,

827
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: even though moncking up Florida State. It is very much

828
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: a winnable game for the Tigers. But this is sort

829
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: of a must win game for the Noles. You can't

830
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: lose this one. They've had a week to get themselves prepared.

831
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Now starting zero to three with two home losses. Is

832
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: the scene and Ghostbusters when they turn off the protection grid, okay,

833
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: and all the ghosts get out and they will be

834
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: coming to a message board near you. If that's what

835
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: goes down here in Memphis ends up winning, I think

836
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: that what we've learned on the Florida State side is

837
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: that and I said this before the season. You might

838
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: recall mobile quarterbacks are an issue issue for everybody, issue

839
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: for everybody, but an issue for Florida State. They lost

840
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: the two of them in Haines King and Thomas Castianos.

841
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: Seth Hennigan can be mobile. He's not what I would

842
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: consider a mobile court. I'm built around his roundability. They're

843
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: going to move him around, that's just what they need

844
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: to do here, but he's a different type of quarterback.

845
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: I think Memphis will have success move in the football

846
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: because they've got a great group of skill talent, especially

847
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: out wide like Rock Taylor. I like this team a lot.

848
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: I just think this is the game where Florida State's

849
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: defense finally wakes the f up and I think we

850
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: see a big game on the ground from them, to

851
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: take some bit of control in this game, to not

852
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: put it all in the arm of Dju, to give

853
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: them kind of a counter punch, which they just have

854
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: not really had one way or another. Either can run

855
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: it or you can't throw it, or you throw it

856
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: you can't run it, but they've not had any balance

857
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: so far. Still a very questionable defense for Memphis as well, okay,

858
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: which I pegged him in the beginning of the year

859
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: as a half team. Even if they make that playoff

860
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: run their half team. Great offense, questionable defense. Florida State

861
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty one at home. Lock it up,

862
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: they get their first win of the season. Are you

863
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: are you playing the sound the lot? I played it,

864
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: I played it, played it twice. I don't like Florida

865
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: State here.

866
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: I kind of like something, and I guess you do,

867
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: I do, I don't. I think Memphis is a quality team.

868
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: I think the vibes are going to be down inside

869
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 2: that stadium. There's not going to be a lot of

870
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: energy after what Florida State's done these first couple of weeks.

871
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Florida State's gonna have to earn back its fans, and

872
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: maybe they earned it pack here. Maybe dju is on point.

873
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: The offensive line, everybody's on the same page, the defense

874
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: is tackling dudes. I think there's a chance Florida State

875
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: is just an average ACC team, like we've talked about,

876
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: and so I don't know. Memphis has something to prove.

877
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: You have this opportunity if you are one of these

878
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: teams if you are a G five conference team and

879
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 2: you have the opportunity to plausibly beat a big boy

880
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 2: on the road, this is de facto super Bowl week

881
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: for a lot of these teams. It is talked about

882
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: it for Kentucky, Oregon State, Washington State, Memphis. Having this

883
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: opportunity to have one of the clear best G five

884
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: over P four wins of the season, even with Florida

885
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: State status, to do this is still a feather in

886
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: one's cap.

887
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: I like Memphis here interesting. What part of what you've

888
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: seen from Florida State this year has you confident this

889
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: year's team not what they were last year, look, not

890
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: the recruits they brought in. What part of their the

891
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: Florida State experience has you thinking they are capable of

892
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: beating a quality team. If you can make that argument

893
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: for the Oregon Ducks, and that's why you're betting on

894
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: them to cover against Oregon State on the road, I

895
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: can make the same argument about Florida State. I think

896
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: they're better than they've shown. I think the whole turnover

897
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: aspect of their offseason, losing as much as they did

898
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: obviously took a lot more of a bite out of

899
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: that team than we expected. Yeah. Eventually, though, talent wins,

900
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: and they are supremely talented as compared to Memphis. They

901
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: just need to get freaking organized. Yeah. But Ty Oregon

902
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: starting the Big twelve quarterback all first team player from

903
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: last season. Oh, I'm not saying they're the same team, but.

904
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: Florida State's on a guy on. I guess they're both

905
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: on their third team to be clear. But dju, how

906
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: he's looked this year? Does it look like the quarterback

907
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: of a productive, if not very good offense. Do you

908
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: want to go against my lock? Is that what you

909
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 2: want to do? I would love to go. I'm gonna

910
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: say my lock is Memphis. This week time Dueling locks.

911
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: Dueling locks. Love it, love the animosity. Yeah, two more

912
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: games in this squad here, and then we got to

913
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: move to the afternoon. We've got Cincy minus three and

914
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: a half against Miami, Ohio. This is the game between

915
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: the stoppable force and the movable object, which is Miami's

916
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: offense currently one hundred and twenty seventh in efficiency against

917
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's defense, which has been pretty bad on a per

918
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: play basis thus far, especially against the run that's been

919
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: kind of a tire fire. Plus since a yak that

920
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: game away last week against pitt I still like him

921
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: more than most of the season. I like Cincinnati here.

922
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: It's a letdown look ahead sandwich potential with how they

923
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: lost last week, and I think they start their Big

924
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: twelve schedule next week.

925
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: I got it. There is twenty one to thirteen since Hey,

926
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: I think is lower scoring because it's Miami, Ohio and

927
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: they don't score. I'm not sure since he's got a

928
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: great offense either, though I do like their quarterback situation.

929
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: That's an upgrade twenty one thirteen since he wins at

930
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: home or on the road. Excuse me, I have twenty

931
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: to sixteen here and Arkansas State against Michigan. I like

932
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: Michigan a lot, Butch Jones Arkansas State team, they were

933
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: young a year ago. They like their offense, think they've

934
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: got sleeper potential in the Sun Belt, but they don't

935
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 1: play any defense. And this seems like a net crack

936
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: game for Michigan where they can get some stuff moving forward.

937
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: So forty five to fifteen by final one seems like

938
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: a net crack game for Michigan. What is it that

939
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: you've seen from twenty twenty four Michigan, though I'm going

940
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Arkansas State to cover. I don't think they'ren win this game.

941
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: I just don't think Michigan is going to play quickly enough.

942
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be successful enough downfield.

943
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: And yet look Donovan Edwards my bust a lot of

944
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: runs early and they coast to a cover here. I

945
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: don't know.

946
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm taking Michigan in a vacuum from this season. They

947
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: didn't look incredible against Presno State, they looked got awful

948
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: against Texas or just fully outclassed against Texas. So yeah,

949
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Arkansas State to cover this one.

950
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: What's what's the said.

951
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: Twenty four twenty four. Yeah, they're gonna lose thirty one

952
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: to ten. They're gonna cover.

953
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna have much success against

954
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: this defense. That's the main thing. Yes, what do I

955
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: like about Michigan still is a lens?

956
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: Is this a letdown? Look ahead Sandwich? Though for Michigan.

957
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 2: Don't they have SC coming in?

958
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: They might, but I'm I don't see it, Dan, I

959
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: just don't see it.

960
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: Okay, they've got SC next week, they had Texas last week,

961
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: and here's little old Arkansas State.

962
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: They're gonna piddle Arkansas State. I think they will. But

963
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: what is the definition of twenty twenty four pounding in

964
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: the Cinemax Saturday tie forty five stopping? I think it's

965
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a soft core pounding tie forty five to

966
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: fifteenth finals. Is that your voice pitch shifted? Of course

967
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: it is you ever? You ever just sit alone in

968
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: a basement with a microphone and go dangerous and then

969
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: edit the sound of your own erotic whispers in an uh?

970
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: What is a digital audio work? What workspace? Du yeah?

971
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: A daw yeah? Is that weird? Do people not do

972
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: that all the time? Do they not? Like I have?

973
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: I have alt takes tie, I have other words that

974
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: I use, like illicit. But I decided that's I don't know,

975
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: that doesn't fit with.

976
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: Passion right right? So here we are pitch shift going on,

977
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: Kansas Te. I have a Nancy the fembot coming up

978
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: here shortly? Could speaking of female voices that were making

979
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: let's go to the afternoon Quad Welcome to the pain

980
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 1: zones where we live. We had somebody write in and say, listen,

981
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: you gotta play all the quad father sounds. Don't just

982
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: play it at the top. So there you go, sir,

983
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Four games here that I've got

984
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: in my quad. Got first three point thirty on ABC

985
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: ten Exus A and M minus four on the road

986
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: at Florida. At three thirty on ESPN, we've got Tulane

987
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: on the road, a thirteen and a half point underdog

988
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: against Oklahoma. We've got Notre Dame minus ken on the

989
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: road against Perdue. That game on CBS, mind you, And

990
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: then at three thirty Big ten Network. Just because I

991
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: am interested in this scenario, not because it's necessarily the

992
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: best game in this area. Yeah, in this window, I've

993
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: got Nevada Minnesota favored by seventeen and a half points.

994
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: Any of those games jump out to you as being interesting?

995
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: And why kind of all of them? I have? I

996
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: think all dogs? This is my Samoya. It's Saturday window. Okay, okay,

997
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: how are your Samoya? It's doing there. They're barking and

998
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: keeping me up at night, but otherwise they're healthy. Yeah.

999
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: I like that you named them after Brian Kelly. Right,

1000
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: you got a BK situation.

1001
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: I have no idea what that means, but continue aren't

1002
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: the name first letter of your dog's names? BK? They

1003
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: are yeah, actually, just make it sure.

1004
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: All right, I have Florida covering at home. Okay, it's

1005
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: a weirdly low line if you believe Texas A and

1006
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 2: M is going to be immediately strong. If you believe

1007
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: DJ Lagway is the answer, which I think billion apiers

1008
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: that he's playing both guys.

1009
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: Playing both guys so at time of recording, yeah, Graham

1010
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Mertz has not been cleared yet for Florida, but the

1011
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: expectation is the expectation he'll be ready to go for

1012
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: the weekend and that both quarterbacks are going to play.

1013
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: I'll say, from a betting standpoint, yeah, I'm staying away.

1014
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm not touching this game at a ten foot pole

1015
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: because I don't know what to expect if it's Graham Mertz.

1016
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect if it's a lot

1017
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: of Dj Lagway. There are just too many variables on

1018
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: that side. So we have to pick this for run

1019
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: the Board for Bowlers dot Com. I'm not putting my

1020
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: money behind this one, not even close.

1021
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: I know Florida fans, even after last week's performance again Samford, Yes, yes,

1022
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: I know Florida fans are optimistic, but pumping the brakes

1023
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: a little bit Hey, it was Samford. This is not

1024
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: a quality team. We can't really judge Dj Lagway based

1025
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: on his results and abilities against a team that's not

1026
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: quite as talented as the Gators. To that, I say,

1027
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: stop it, stop it. If you're gonna love love with

1028
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: all your heart, Ty, put yourself out there. Don't be

1029
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: afraid of getting hurt. DJ Lagway got me going watching

1030
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: him last week. He was so damn good. He stood

1031
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: in and threw the ball down the field. He just said,

1032
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: what did I say?

1033
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: It was? It was like fit go deep way back

1034
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: when the Joe moorehead Penn State team, it was Morehead

1035
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: before him. It was Rex Grossman. It was Rex Grossman

1036
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: at Florida.

1037
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: I just he is my like when I was previewing games, like,

1038
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: he's my High Mass Scalante quarterback of the year. Right,

1039
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: you remember High Mass Galante is Stand and Deliver Ty

1040
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: Edward James Almost. That's a late eighties inspirational high school

1041
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: movie for you. You probably watched that a long time

1042
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: ago in class. If you're anywhere near our age, I'm in.

1043
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm ready to be hurt again, Ty, I'm in on

1044
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 2: Floorda and Dj Lagway. I think he is that good.

1045
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: I think he is that incredible. I think he is

1046
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: that ballsy. So I love Florida here. I think they're

1047
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: gonna win this game out right by a touchdown.

1048
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: My sense is that A and M is the better team,

1049
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: certainly same certainly the better defense. Definitely. I'm not sure

1050
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: how big the gap is though, And that's the thing.

1051
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: The main reason why so many folks were down on Florida,

1052
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: why the win total was so low coming into the season,

1053
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: was because of the schedule. Yeah, this is not a

1054
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: disaster of a team. It was a bad defense. They're

1055
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: trying to fix it. Clearly Billy Napier would like things

1056
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: to go a little bit more Swimmingly, it's not the

1057
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: worst team in the world. They're actually quite talented. They've

1058
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: done a good job acquiring talent, and I do think

1059
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: they will be better than last year by the time

1060
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: all is said and done. So this is a closer

1061
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: game that might meet the eye then might be a

1062
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: parent if you're just kind of listening to narratives out

1063
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: there and hearing what people have to say about Florida.

1064
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: I think it's close. I think it's a good game.

1065
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: I think A and M wins, But I think it's

1066
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: like twenty eight twenty seven. I think it's a good game.

1067
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: I would take the points as well with Florida at home,

1068
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: so we agree.

1069
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: I hate that pick for you, ty For me, that

1070
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: pick has no stones. Tye, you're straddling a fence. You're

1071
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: just straddling a fence. I'm not I think A and

1072
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: M is a better team, but I think Florida can

1073
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: keep it close. Come on, love with all of your heart.

1074
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: Ty You're in this sport because you grew up with magic.

1075
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: I grew up. I don't love this game with all

1076
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: my heart. This game scares the hell out of me.

1077
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, do you love DJ Lagway's potential with all.

1078
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: Of your heart? Wow? Of course. So don't protect yourself, tie,

1079
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: I've got yourself out. I've got other ones coming up

1080
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: here where I'll put myself out. There.

1081
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: Be the one to say I love you first, Tye.

1082
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

1083
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: Cinemax Saturday, really strong vibes here.

1084
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: Were you the one to say that to your wife?

1085
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: Did you say I love you to her before she

1086
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: said I love you to you? Or are you still

1087
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: yet to say it to each other?

1088
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: Oh? We've set it to each other. Yeah, I'd have

1089
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: to check the tapes on that, and I don't really remember.

1090
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: It was me and my marriage, but I think I

1091
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: qualified a little bit like I didn't do it, which

1092
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 2: is why I'm out here correcting past wrongs.

1093
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: TY three thirty two Lane versus Oklahoma. I asked four

1094
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: text messages on the rever blind. We got a ton. Thankfully,

1095
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: I figured out how to turn off notifications, so I'm

1096
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: sleeping again. But we employed our friend Nancy the fembot

1097
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: to read this one that came through from an Oklahoma

1098
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: fan named George. Let's hear it. Nance It's sure, it's

1099
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: only like twelve seconds, but have a listen.

1100
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 3: The vibes are very shaky. The inability to run the

1101
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: ball to help out a young quarterback doesn't make me

1102
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 3: feel all warm inside, especially heading into conference play.

1103
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: That one's from George. We asked for vibe check vibecheck

1104
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: among Oklahoma fans. George cited the run. I had other

1105
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: people write in about the past, about the coaching, about

1106
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: the offense, about the d I don't it's not really

1107
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: that much from a defense, but got some of those

1108
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: two suffice to say, yes, the vibes are definitely shaky.

1109
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: I think Tulane is a damn good team. I think

1110
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: they are legit a good team. Any questions you had

1111
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: about them being able to contend with teams of this

1112
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: ILK should have been answered last week when they basically

1113
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: had KSE State State on the ropes. Yeah, and lost

1114
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: middle of the fourth quarter on a scoop and score.

1115
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: They're not going to get blown out by Oklahoma here.

1116
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't care what the point spread is. I do

1117
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: think that the Sooner defense is a different breed from

1118
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: what we saw a week ago with KSE State. I

1119
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: think they're better, They're very legit, and they certainly are

1120
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: going to pose more of a challenge. But my guarantee

1121
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: to you, Dan Rubinstein is that Tulane, even though they're

1122
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: not going to score twenty seven points the way they

1123
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: did a week ago, they will cover this point spread.

1124
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: I think so too. Thirty to twenty Oklahoma wins at home.

1125
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: But Tulane's a good team and they are a tough out.

1126
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: The tough freaking out.

1127
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty Oklahoma. Look, I know a lot

1128
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: of these lines are Vegas seemingly saying, well, they got

1129
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: to get it together at some point, right And I

1130
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 2: know this is a quality team, but like Oklahoma's should

1131
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 2: be much better on both sides of the ball and

1132
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: eventually win this game comfortably. What is twenty twenty four

1133
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: Oklahoma shown. Haven't shown an offensive line, haven't shown pop

1134
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: down the field consistently, haven't been able to run the ball.

1135
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: They've shown a defense against whom Houston.

1136
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1137
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 2: I'm just on two lane here as a quality team

1138
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: against a team that hasn't proven anything this year. How expensive,

1139
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: by the way, could it be to hire like a

1140
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: semi known voice actress to read our text messages that

1141
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: come into the reverbline?

1142
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I did ask Solid wife Kate

1143
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: if she wanted to do it, and she declined.

1144
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: Wow, So we can't afford Kate. We can't afford Kate?

1145
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: Could we afford like Jane Leaves from Fraser Daphney.

1146
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if there are any vo actresses out there?

1147
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: Hit us Subsolid Verbal at gmail dot com.

1148
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't know the names of any like Cinemax level

1149
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: like two thousand two nineteen ninety eight actresses, But if

1150
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: any of you are listening right now, that'd be great.

1151
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: Big in that community. Okay, two other ones real quick.

1152
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: That will move to the nightcap. I won't talk too

1153
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: much about the Notre Dame game. Notre Dame minus ten

1154
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: versus Perdue. Perdue played in Week one. They won forty

1155
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: nine nail and then immediately went on by week we

1156
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: haven't seen them since. So you look at this team.

1157
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: The projections are not kind to the boiler Makers. They're

1158
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: projected to win one, maybe two the rest of the

1159
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: way because it's a tough schedule. That's the rub on

1160
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 1: this season for the boiler Makers. This is a team

1161
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: that got murdered in the portal. This is a team

1162
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: that I think is still a year or two away

1163
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: from truly turning the corner, and that makes it very,

1164
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: very difficult. Notre Dame should win this game by twenty

1165
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: four points. They should, I don't know if they will.

1166
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if they will. They absolutely have to

1167
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: get their passing game in order. I heard too many

1168
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: people last week talk about, well, they just got to

1169
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: They gotta get back to what they're good at and

1170
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: running the football and beating the brains in of whoever

1171
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: they're playing. Can somebody throw the freaking football. Yeah, Riley

1172
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: Leonards looked like a dumpster fire throwing the football through

1173
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: two weeks so far this season, he was their big

1174
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: getting the portal. So again, this has not been any

1175
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: commercial for the Manning Passing Academy so far. With what

1176
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: we've seen from Riley Leonard, they need to get something

1177
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: going through the air. I think they cover. I'm not

1178
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: betting this game, not for the life of me. Thirty

1179
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: one seventeen, Notre Dame goes to West off Yet and wins.

1180
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm Keenny Minschi guy first and foremost.

1181
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 2: I know, y you know where I stand. I'm taking

1182
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: the points here. Again, what have I seen from twenty

1183
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: twenty four Notre Dame. They went to Texas A and

1184
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: M and won a game with a lot of like

1185
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard left, Riley Leonard right, and now that the

1186
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: book is sort of out, that Ian book is sort

1187
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: of out on this Notre Dame offense. Ryan Walter smart

1188
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: defensive mind, might not have the talent he necessarily had

1189
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: at Illinois with that great defense from a couple of

1190
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: years ago.

1191
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1192
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: At home, Purdue haven't seen anything from twenty twenty four

1193
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: Notre Dame to make me think that all of a

1194
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: sudden they're going to figure it out this week.

1195
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm taking the points. I think

1196
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: they eke it out on the road and with laugh. Yeah.

1197
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: The other game here that I'm I'm interested in, and

1198
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: I threw it in the quad and it maybe sticks

1199
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb. I'm trying not to be

1200
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: too biased to Minnesota. You know, I still like Minnesota. Yeah,

1201
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: but Nevad has been really plucky so far this season.

1202
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: They're one and two, but all three games have been

1203
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: one score affairs. They play it plays super slow, yeah,

1204
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: and try to shorten the game as much as they can,

1205
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: which has worked for them thus far. This could be

1206
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: a brutal watch. Full disclosure. Yeah, because Minnesota also plays slow,

1207
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: they play even slower. My expectation here is that Minnesota,

1208
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: who did look better a week ago, still has a

1209
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: ways to go with their own passing game, but they

1210
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: look better. My expectation is that they should win and

1211
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: should cover this one handily. Thirty four ten ish. They

1212
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: should if they are half as good as I have

1213
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: thought about Minnesota, they should pound Nevado and Cinemac Saturday.

1214
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1215
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: You know, some people like it slow tie. Okay, I'm

1216
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: taking Nevada here. I'm going to take the points from

1217
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: the same like theory as what I've said for a

1218
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: lot of these is just like, what has Minnesota done

1219
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: this year? No to say, my yeah, they've earned you know,

1220
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 2: beating even a below average team by seventeen plus points.

1221
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1222
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: I haven't fully subscribed to the fact that Minnesota's offense

1223
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 2: is suddenly fixed with Max brosmer Well, I'm taking the points.

1224
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: Two other quick ones here. I'm not going to do

1225
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: a full play review of these, but ones that I'm

1226
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: keeping my eye on. Betting ole Miss minus twenty four

1227
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: at wake Forest. I think ole Miss is going to destroy.

1228
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: I think ole Miss I like them there after the

1229
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: tight loss last week for wake Forest.

1230
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and UAB traveling to Arkansas, Arkansas favored by twenty

1231
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: four and a half. I think Arkansas is going to

1232
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: annihilate you ab Limb from Limb Yeah offense in a

1233
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: year and a half. Anything else is Did I see

1234
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: Cam Rising maybe not playing in this game against Utah State? Yeah?

1235
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: I think he's questionable against Utah State, So who knows?

1236
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: And that's a I think Bryson Barnes depending on who's

1237
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: starting for Utah State. But Utah State didn't score a.

1238
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: Point last week against USC correct. I don't know.

1239
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: If Utah covers that line, it might be a you know,

1240
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: seventeen to three game. It might be extremely ugly. I

1241
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: have Fau over FIU. I have East Carolina as a

1242
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 2: home dog against app State. I like the ECU defense

1243
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1244
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: Ting about a two and a half point line something

1245
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: like that.

1246
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like a decent defense as a home dog.

1247
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: I think you're right with Arkansas Limb from Limb. I

1248
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: also love Miami Limb from Limb against a very bad

1249
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: ball state team right now, could see that. I like

1250
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: Miami there. Otherwise they don't have strong thoughts in this window.

1251
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: Let's go to the night window here. Final window question

1252
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: to you is how bad you really want place? How

1253
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: bad do you want those legs? Dan? Oh my god,

1254
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: I need them tennis player TI. So look, we we've

1255
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: been getting questions about this, and I will say the

1256
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: night window this would be the week to go on

1257
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: the date with the missus or mister or significant other

1258
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: on cinema set. Sorry, not a great night slate if

1259
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm being honest with you, we find reasons to be interested.

1260
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: Most of the people listening. You wouldn't be listening if

1261
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: you didn't find reasons to be interested. But this would

1262
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: be the nice little window to see what you can

1263
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: see what you can do to build up some capital

1264
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, because weeks four and

1265
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: five are definitely looking a lot stronger. The four games

1266
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: that I have pulled out here obviously are Indiana Hoho

1267
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: Hoosiers America's team Yeah, of course minus three on the

1268
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: road versus UCLA. It's a seven thirty NBC game, seven

1269
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: thirty CBS game is Colorado versus Colorado State. Colorado favored

1270
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: on the road by seven. Seven thirty Fox game is

1271
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: UCF versus TCU. I think this should be a pretty

1272
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: good game, UCF favored by two and a half points.

1273
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 1: And also in the ACC network eight pm, I've got

1274
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: Maryland minus two and one half points against Virginia. That

1275
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: game could be fun. That game could be fun. I

1276
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: think Virginia will fight them. I don't know what Maryland

1277
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: is right now. I expected more a week ago. We

1278
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: didn't get it. But I think that one's going to

1279
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: be a fun game that will come down to the wire.

1280
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: I've got Maryland winning that one on loan from the ACC,

1281
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: on loan from the ACC. Where are you at with

1282
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: Indiana versus UCLA? Love Indiana here? Why? There's just there

1283
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: are just not a lot.

1284
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,479
Speaker 2: Of vibes in Pasadena, and I don't think the vibes

1285
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: are existent right now with UCLA football. We'll see, but

1286
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: like this is not a headline Big ten team coming in,

1287
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 2: although I think Indiana has the potential to be pretty

1288
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: quality this year. So I think Indiana's offense is going

1289
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: to move the ball. I have been winning this one

1290
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty one.

1291
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: I got twenty eight twenty four Indiana. I'm on Kurt

1292
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: Signetti and the Rourke family quarterback dynasty Colorado State.

1293
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm taking the points against Colorado, though I think Colorado wins.

1294
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: Talent's gonna win out. This is another de facto Super

1295
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: Bowl situation. Colorado needed overtime last year, multiple overtimes. I

1296
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: believe Colorado State lost fifty two to nothing to Texas

1297
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: to open up the season. Correct, You're not who you

1298
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: are on your worst day. You not who you are

1299
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: on your best day. Give me Colorado State to make

1300
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: this close, but lose late. I have TCU at home.

1301
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: I think it's just tough to win on the road.

1302
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: UCF not tested at all, TCU at least a little

1303
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 2: bit against Stanford. I think the defense will give a

1304
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: little bit of pushback against UCF and they win this

1305
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: one in tight fashion. And I like Maryland over Virginia

1306
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: sort of a letdown moment for Virginia after their close

1307
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: win last week. So give me Maryland to bounce back

1308
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: after their own tight, bad loss late.

1309
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: Let me be clear about something if I coaka, I

1310
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: don't think Colorado State's that good. Neither do I I

1311
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: think it's fair to expect that they are better than

1312
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: a year ago because we're entering year three now, Jane Norvell,

1313
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: and to be a jump, I still think it's a

1314
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: six win team with a lot of defensive issues. That

1315
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: is who Colorado State is. Yeah, do you need to

1316
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,959
Speaker 1: be that good to hang with Colorado? Though?

1317
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: You don't need that good, to be that good to

1318
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: overwhelm Colorado's offensive line.

1319
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to be that good. And

1320
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: this is a close game. A year ago that, as

1321
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: you said, went to a couple overtimes. That team was worse.

1322
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: That team was five and seven now they're at home.

1323
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm fully out on Colorado at this point. I gotta

1324
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: be real with you, And if anyone listened to the previews,

1325
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: you know that I was. I've been trying to make

1326
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: the case for let's see what this looks like in

1327
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: year two with Dion. Let's see if he can figure

1328
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: out a way to do these mass line changes in

1329
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: the offseason and bring the team together and play as

1330
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: a unit and move things forward. And we just have

1331
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: not seen that. They don't look better. If anything, they

1332
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: look a little worse. So I am out on them.

1333
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: They are basically an air raid team that is not

1334
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: interested in running. They're not interested in playing defense. They're

1335
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: interested in showcasing Shadoor Sanders defense shut out Nebraska second

1336
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: half last week. They are interested in playing Shador Sanders

1337
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: and Travis Hunter to the maximum and getting into the NFL.

1338
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: That's what this feels like to me. I got Colorado

1339
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: State out right thirty eight thirty five. Wow, I could

1340
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: see among this game. I don't think they're there.

1341
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: But okay, so we agree on that. You have Virginia

1342
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: over Maryland. I've got Maryland over.

1343
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: Virginia, okay, And I've got UCF over TCU. I just

1344
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: really like the UCF offense still, I need.

1345
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 2: To see the defense, that's all. With UCF. I need

1346
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: to see that clear improvement. So do I with ted Roof.

1347
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: But I'm unsure of what TCU's offense is this point right,

1348
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: I've got questions on that front.

1349
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: I've got Vandy over Georgia State double digit favorites on

1350
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: the road. Okay, Georgia State is just a little bit

1351
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 2: behind at the moment. Another game that like falls into

1352
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 2: the like, how are.

1353
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: They favored by this many points? This year's team Baylor

1354
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: minus like fifteen against air Force something like that. The

1355
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: line may have shifted, but it's still healthy double digits.

1356
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: I know air Force they just lost to San Jose State,

1357
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: Kenyu Modelolo and the Spartans, but I think there's still

1358
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: some fight with this air Force defense. I know they've

1359
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: replaced a lot of guys, but the secondary is still

1360
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 2: kind of intact. There is experience in that secondary, a

1361
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: little bit experience up front. I think they're just their

1362
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 2: defense is good enough and with how slow they'll play

1363
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: on offense to just keep this low scoring. So I

1364
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 2: just think that number is kind of absurd.

1365
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: I could see Rice winning out right against Houston. Okay,

1366
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 1: Houston's been a mess so far this season. That line

1367
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: I have written down five. I think it's moved as well.

1368
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: Off the go and check this one's for our folks

1369
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: out in Discord, who are big Rice efficionados. Of course,

1370
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: I could see Rice pulling that upset. It's actually kind

1371
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: of liked Rice this year coming. Do they have anyway?

1372
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: Do they have like a sub server called the Patty?

1373
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: They should, the Rice fans, that'd be nice.

1374
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: They should.

1375
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: I have Cal over San Diego State. It's a big number,

1376
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: and it's a letdown spot for Cal after winning at Auburn.

1377
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: But I don't know. San Diego State just got shut.

1378
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: Out and their their offense has a ways to go,

1379
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: and I think they're going to get decent under Shawn Lewis.

1380
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 2: But I'm going Cal here.

1381
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's round this show out before we do. Though,

1382
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,160
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Speaker 2: only other thing that I will add here, Yeah, I

1413
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: am doing the reverbs this week because guy Shay is

1414
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: out of the country parts unknown, which means you're going

1415
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: to get a vintage tie performance on the Reverbs eight

1416
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: three eight five five ruble three call and leave us

1417
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 2: a voice message. I really want you to hammer those

1418
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: voicemail lines this week.

1419
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: Man.

1420
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 2: If Notre Dame loses to Purdue and you have to

1421
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: edit the reverse.

1422
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: Quitting, I'm quitting. That won't have the show's over. If

1423
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

1424
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: Losing, you're moving to a country that won't extradite you

1425
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 2: back for abandon the solid verbal.

1426
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: I will, I will. It's been fun, it's been real.

1427
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: I love you like a brother, Dan. Yeah, that would

1428
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: be the end of the show. If they lose. Some

1429
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: people listening might be happy to hear that. That's that.

1430
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: I think. I think you're the more well liked half.

1431
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: If Notre Dame loses them out, we're on with this.

1432
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: We're done. I'm done.

1433
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean Notre Dame in Oregon both went four and

1434
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: eight in the same season, right, they did, so maybe

1435
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 2: they're sort of a misery. Maybe we're just gonna have

1436
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: a season of Oregon and Notre Dame down at the

1437
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: same time again, and so misery loves company.

1438
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: I would be completely out. I would be I would

1439
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: open up my LinkedIn for other hosting jobs. I don't know.

1440
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: I told you, I keep getting notifications about these hosting

1441
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: jobs up at Texas Roadhouse. Different kind of hosting, but

1442
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: still similar enough. Yeah, maybe I look into something like that.

1443
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: I just can't take it. If Notre Dame loses again

1444
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: doing the stupid show at midnight, kill me, just kill me.

1445
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: On that note, please drop some dangerous passionate elicit big

1446
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 2: stanky Drummond five.

1447
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: Baby, Yeah, twelve o'clock. We've got Lehigh on the road

1448
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: at Long Island, the Islands, Long Island. I been playing

1449
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: some real teams lately. Yeah, you're getting smoked. They lost

1450
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: forty five nothing a week ago. I got Lee High

1451
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: here going on the road and winning this game. I

1452
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: have Lee High as well. Going to the Island. Twelve

1453
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: thirty Marist at Lafayette coming into Fisher Stadium, Dan not

1454
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: even a question. Give me laughyette, I'm gonna go Yeti's

1455
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 1: here as well. Yeah, he's a call. One pm Stony

1456
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: Brook at Fordham. Fordham lost last week to Sint Con

1457
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,919
Speaker 1: looking their wounds a little bit. Now you going Brookies,

1458
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,520
Speaker 1: you go in Hammy's careful talking about licking on Cinemax Saturday.

1459
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: I am going. I'm going against boredom here, I'm going Brook.

1460
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: One pm. We got Georgetown on the road at Sacred Heart,

1461
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: Georgetown away from the comfy confines, the Hornet's nest that

1462
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: is multi sport field.

1463
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Georgetown. Georgetown's been hot, going hoyas.

1464
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Georgetown as well. Have they been hot?

1465
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think so. Two pm. Holy Cross

1466
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: at Bryant at Bryant if they're going over to somebody's house, Yeah,

1467
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: at Bryant. Gotta go cross Saders here.

1468
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going Cross Saders. Even with the new coach,

1469
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: the vibes are still real.

1470
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 1: Six pm. We got Colgate at Akron.

1471
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: By the way, Georgetown demolished the Foxes of Marist last week.

1472
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: Oh yes, the last one you said was Colgate at Akron.

1473
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: Colgate Acron. I'm gonna go more ahead here. Yeah, give

1474
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: me Akron, I think you gotta go Akron. Yeah. And

1475
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: finally we've got six pm Merrimack at Bucknell. They are

1476
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: playing this at Harold J. Lamadi Stadium in Williams Harold

1477
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 1: and Maud. Yeah, give me the Nellies, gonna go. Nelly's

1478
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: the neutral site game advantage at night, neutral site at night? Yeah,

1479
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: what is it? What is Harold J. Lemaide? That's where

1480
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: they play the Little League World Series. They're not actually

1481
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: playing the game there. I just made that up. That's

1482
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: the name of the action in Williams Sport. Is that

1483
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: the same Willimes Sport? Yeah? Bucknell's nearby. That'd be a

1484
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: cool venue, I thought. So that's why I put it

1485
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: on here. It only took me eight years to finally

1486
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: get you on one of these. Have you been to

1487
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: the Little League World Series? I have? It's awful, Is

1488
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: it really? It's awful?

1489
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Speaker 2: Well, it's just a bunch of like baseball kid parents

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Speaker 2: freaking out.

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Speaker 1: No, you can't see anything, You're you're standing on the hill.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you have to experience it. It's obviously

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Speaker 1: a cool thing, right, not like, yeah, of course play

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Speaker 1: little League baseball. I love it. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: cool thing that they do, but the the the viewing experience,

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Speaker 1: experience in person leaves a lot to be desired because

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Speaker 1: it's just a mob scene and it's tough to see

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Speaker 1: what's going on, and accommodations at least when I was

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Speaker 1: there weren't great. So I know they've come a long

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Speaker 1: way with it. I think they've built the area up

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, we're men of a certain age

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Speaker 1: at this point, Dan, Let's be real. This was I'm

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Speaker 1: not of your generation add years ago at this point

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Speaker 1: that I went, but was not impressed. Okay, good review.

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Speaker 1: Good for the kids though, yeah, good for them. That

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Speaker 1: is all we got, boys and girls. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for Downlanie, for listening, for playing along at home.

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Speaker 1: stop back on Sunday morning for the new rendition of

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Speaker 1: our recap podcast. We will be spit and fire gonna

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Speaker 1: be I don't know why I said that. It'll be

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Speaker 1: an interesting good cinemax Saturday, to say the least. And

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Speaker 1: if you are listening to this, thank you Dan. On Thursday,

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Speaker 1: we're doing our Big ten Breakfast live Friday morning, nine.

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Speaker 2: Am Big Time Breakfast Friday morning, nine am Eastern up

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Speaker 2: after the fact as well Saturday midnight Eastern for our stream.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubenstein. Enjoy the rest of your week. I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you probably about fifteen minutes from now I'm

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Speaker 1: around to everyone out there, enjoy week three. We will

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Speaker 1: talk to you all soon. Stay solid, peace,