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Speaker 1: and Out. Thanks for listening. That's this show, back at

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Speaker 1: it again here in the middle of February. Happy Valentine's

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt is a free agent. Some thoughts on

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Speaker 1: something that's becoming abundantly clear. And you hear this a

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Speaker 1: sports teams, when it comes to anyone successful, right, their

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Speaker 1: culture is special. They have great culture. Culture, culture, culture, culture.

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Speaker 1: Like does anyone know the culture of Apple? Do they

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Speaker 1: Like I read a lot of weird stories about Amazon,

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Speaker 1: like as Amazon's culture just fantastic or do they have

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Speaker 1: Belichick is an elite coach, but like a huge part

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Speaker 1: And now I think you see a shift that forever

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Speaker 1: probably two to three weeks to evaluate the entire roster.

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Speaker 1: And this is what happens around the league. Evaluate the roster,

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Speaker 1: and definitely the guys we have under contract are impending

429
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Speaker 1: free agents, and let us know what you think about him.

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Speaker 1: So if I'm Joe Douglas and I just hired Robert

431
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Speaker 1: Sala and he rings with him Kyle Shanahan's minion and

432
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Speaker 1: Mike Laflour's or Matt Laflour's brother Mike, so I have

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Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator. Now I didn't draft Sam Donald.

434
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Speaker 1: But also this I know for a fact, the Jets,

435
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: like every team in the NFL, but specifically them, viewed

436
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence as the cream de la creme. Right, he

437
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: was the guy. And then ultimately they just it's impossible

438
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: to tank, even though it felt like they were doing it,

439
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: and they ended up not getting the number one pick.

440
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Speaker 1: Now they if they had the number one pick, Sam

441
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: Donald would be done. It wouldn't even be a decision.

442
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: Because if I'm Joe Douglas, if you're not, if you're

443
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: dumb enough to say I want Sam Donald over Trevor Lawrence,

444
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. And they wouldn't have.

445
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: They just would have traded him. But now I got

446
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Speaker 1: the number two pick, and I might view at best

447
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson and one of these other guys as Sam

448
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: Donald's equal and may or maybe I realized, like, hey, guys,

449
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Speaker 1: if you like Sam Donald and you think we can

450
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Speaker 1: win with them, I can use this number two pick,

451
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Speaker 1: trade back a couple of spots, accumulate more picks. We

452
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: got multiple first round picks, and we could build a squad.

453
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: We could be competitive, maybe in by next year because

454
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Speaker 1: I can hit some picks. We got a bunch of

455
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Speaker 1: AMMO and just start unloading the clip on some talent

456
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: because right now we have no talent on the roster.

457
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Speaker 1: Ideally that's what you would do. But I'm I've been

458
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Speaker 1: of the on the side of just Sam Donald's done,

459
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald's dohn. Sam Donald's done well. Robert Sala and

460
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: his staff have been together for like two weeks. I

461
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Speaker 1: I've just seen the way these meetings take place. They've

462
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Speaker 1: spent weeks evaluating the team, probably watching every single snap.

463
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Speaker 1: If I'm Mike Lafloor, I always get the floors mixed up.

464
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Speaker 1: I guess Matt Lafleur is the coaching Green Bay. Mike,

465
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: his brother both Shannahan guys, is now the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I would have told him, can you do this? This

467
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: is not an easy project, but it's the most important

468
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Speaker 1: position we're gonna have on the team. Watch every snap

469
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald's ever played, So he would do a deep

470
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Speaker 1: dive on Sam Donald. And if he came back to me,

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Speaker 1: if I'm Joe Douglas and Robert Sala and said, guy,

472
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Speaker 1: I think I can win with this guy. I think

473
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: I coach him up in our offense. I think he's

474
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Speaker 1: perfect for it. Because if Kyle Shanahan and I've heard

475
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Speaker 1: he's interested in Sam Donald is interested in Sam Donald,

476
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: the Jet should be also interested in Sam Donald. They're

477
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Speaker 1: running the same fucking offense Sam Donald in theory, and

478
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of on the fence. I I'm my

479
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: heart roots for Sam Donald. I've liked him since USC.

480
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm a Pack twelve guy. Sad to say, I'm a

481
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: Pack twelve guy who's like a sneaky undercover big s

482
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Speaker 1: SEC fan, but just because Pack Darl's hard to watch.

483
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: But Sam Donald was a legitimate top five player coming

484
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Speaker 1: out of college. He was when they took him three up.

485
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: That felt right, and he had some moments in the pros,

486
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Speaker 1: but for the most part, it's been underwhelming. But in

487
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: this offense, with the zone, the bootlegs, the nakeds, the nudes,

488
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: as Tom Coughlin once said, you get lay up throws.

489
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Speaker 1: He's a much better athlete than Jared goff And we

490
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: saw the success early on Jared Goffan he is you know,

491
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Speaker 1: I put a kind of like a Jimmy Garoppolo. Well,

492
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: I saw Jimmy Garoppolo a couple of years ago when

493
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Speaker 1: he was healthy be pretty good. Sam Donald can do that.

494
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: There is no guarantee that Trey Lance, Justin Fields, or

495
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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson is going to do that, I'd say, and

496
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Speaker 1: I don't know which, because I kind of like all

497
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: three of them. Two of those three guys are gonna

498
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: be not any good in the NFL just the way

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Speaker 1: it works, like the history would tell us. So if

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Speaker 1: I could make Sam Donald work pick up his fifth

501
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: year option this year, you basically have two years fifteen

502
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: million a year because it's his fifth year options twenty

503
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: five million. He makes like five million this year. So

504
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: I look at it two years thirty million, two years

505
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: fifteen million piece to see if he's our guy, and

506
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Speaker 1: I get to use all these other picks on other

507
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: players that way, maybe in two years, like we're competitive,

508
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Speaker 1: if Sam Donald you can make him good, maybe in

509
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: two years we win ten games. That to me is

510
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: the best option if it's there, and I just wonder

511
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: that if la Floor does a deep dive, he tells himself,

512
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Speaker 1: maybe I can win with this guy. And the now

513
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: actual move from a defensive coach, Well, if we can

514
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: win with this guy and he's already here, let's go

515
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: use these picks on other players. Let's go draft some

516
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: sweet defensive players. Let's improve our offensive skill guys. Especially

517
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna trade Sam Donald's first second right and

518
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: use that pick on the number two pick on let's say,

519
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. I mean, you don't have anything to show

520
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: for it. But if I let's just say, use the

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Speaker 1: number two pick on an offensive lineman. I got my

522
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: left tackle, I got my right tackle. I used my

523
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Speaker 1: other first rounder on a sweet wide receiver or a

524
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: linebacker or something. Boom, my team is already dramatically better,

525
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Speaker 1: especially if Sam is just solid. That to me is

526
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: what you're asking yourself. Same thing with Atlanta right now,

527
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: you're going through and going Arthur, do you think we

528
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: can win with Matt Ryan because if we can, let's

529
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: let's use our top ten pick on a player we

530
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Speaker 1: have some talent on this roster, Like Detroit, I think

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Speaker 1: there's no way Detroit draft a quarterback. Draft other players

532
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: on your roster Jared Goff is playing, and then figure

533
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: it out from there. Chris Bower said this a couple

534
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Just because there are quarterbacks in a

535
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Speaker 1: draft does not mean I like these quarterbacks. Every general

536
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: manager and every coach in the NFL deep down understands

537
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: how important the quarterback is. But I can't just force myself.

538
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: If I watch let's say justin Fields and I'm g

539
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: MX and I don't like them, I can't just take

540
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Speaker 1: him because everyone tells me I need a quarterback. I

541
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Speaker 1: never want to have to take a quarterback high that

542
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't like just because I'm feeling the pressure. That's

543
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: not good business. You want to take a player like

544
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: when the Falcons took bat Ryan once upon a time

545
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: that you believe it, right. I think you saw last

546
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: year like the two and Herbert thing. You know, I

547
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: did Miami love Tour. They just think too, it was

548
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: better than Herbert. Did the Chargers love Herbert? No, they

549
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: like two of more and they's ended up with Herbert.

550
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone knew, but every once in a

551
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: while you see teams that like they got conviction in

552
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: that guy. Right when the Bills took Josh Allen, they

553
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: believed in him. They thought he was the dude when

554
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: it When Arizona took Kyler Murray, they were all in hell.

555
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: When the Eagles took Carson Wentz, they thought like they

556
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: believed in it. And I think this class is gonna be.

557
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna be. They're gonna be teams that have these

558
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: guys ranked all over the board. Like I've been saying

559
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: for a while, Zack Wilson weighs like two pounds. Trey

560
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Lance was a win year starter at nineteen years old,

561
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: very physically gifted, but also a small school. Justin Fields

562
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: who I like the most because I see something like

563
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in him, Like he's raw, but he's so

564
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: physically talented. He's such a high character guy. If my

565
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: coach is Sean Payton, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, Andy Reid types,

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Speaker 1: I want Justin Fields. That's why I'm paying these coaches

567
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: ten plus million dollars a year to get a guy

568
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: like that, mold him and kick the ship out of everybody,

569
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: because the Bills did that, and look what they have

570
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: to show. Now take the guy with the highest ceiling.

571
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: I know Brown's fans get mad at me for are

572
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: hating on Baker Mayfield, and I'll give him credit. He

573
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: was really good the second half of the season. Can

574
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: you imagine the Browns team if they have this version

575
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen in that offense? Holy Moley, I'm concerned,

576
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: Like it's Kyle Shanahan. Does he just is he just

577
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: in love with guys like Matt shob and Kirk Cousins,

578
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: like Matt Ryan. I'm like, well, after this year, they

579
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Speaker 1: played the Bills on Monday Night Football and Josh Allen

580
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: eviscerating him. He said after the game, like that's what

581
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: you wanted to look like that. Those are the type

582
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: guys that are dominating in the league. I want guys

583
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: with high end traits. But sometimes the guys with high

584
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: end traits, you know, don't come into the ground, don't

585
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: come into the league great role. You gotta make them better. Well,

586
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: that's why I'm paying my coach all this money. Let's

587
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: let's mold those guys and coach him up. That's where

588
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's kind of in this unique situation. It's like Mike,

589
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: he's only what years old, gonna be twenty four. Let's

590
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: just pretend the last couple of years didn't really happen

591
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: with Adam Gates, who was just complete disaster. You get

592
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: to mold this guy, you get to get the best

593
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: out of it. We've seen before in the NFL guys

594
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: turned their careers around at quarterback later on in their career.

595
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: This guy is young. He just happens to have been

596
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: in the league now for three plus years. But if

597
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: you could convince yourself he's the guy, which I don't

598
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: think is crazy, especially relative to the other guys in

599
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: this draft, I think he might be able to be

600
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: a much better team faster. It's actually the ideal way

601
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,239
Speaker 1: to do business. Any team would rather just use that

602
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: pick on another player, not a quarterback, because once you

603
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: take a quarterback in the top ten, you got to

604
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: be the guy because if he's not as a disaster,

605
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: if he's not doesn't turn into a top twenty guy,

606
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: you're fucked. You made the wrong decision. So I think

607
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: the Jets right now are doing a thorough, in depth

608
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: kind of introspection on Sam Donald because they really don't

609
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: have that many other players you have to discuss for

610
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: that long. He's the guy and it's gonna be probably

611
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: the most important move the Slo Joe Douglas marriage. And

612
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: you got to include La flour because he's gonna influence

613
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: this make as crazy as it sounds, because they got

614
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: long deals. They're all making a lot of money, but

615
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: whether you keep him or trade them kind of sends

616
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: your team on a specific trajectory immediately the moment that

617
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: move is figured out. Okay, our boy fraud Meyer, as

618
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: many people I can call him, Urban Meyer is off

619
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: to a rocky start here in uh in Jacksonville, and

620
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: I think it shows you that even a team, and

621
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: I'd say the Jags are the most irrelevant team in

622
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: the NFL until they hire one of the greatest collegiate

623
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: coaches in the history of the sport. In the moment

624
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: that happens, a spotlight comes on and you see that

625
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: with urban Meyer hires the guy that Iowa fired for

626
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: racial stuff. Within twenty four hours, that guy's relieved of

627
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: his duties quote unquote resigns Now the owner forces hand

628
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, whether it's Utah, whether it's full ord To,

629
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Speaker 1: whether it's Ohio State. Doesn't he answer to anybody at

630
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: those schools? The athletic director asked him, like Urban Meyer

631
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: got whatever he wanted, especially at Florida and Ohio State.

632
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: He didn't answer to Jane Smith. Jeane Smith asked him Urban,

633
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: what do you need? Not the other way around, the

634
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: same thing. When he was at Florida and once he

635
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: started winning atties, he was the boss. You think Nick

636
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: say you wo think some charges Alabama Nick Saban is.

637
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: I think the a d or president has more Jews

638
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: at the school than Nick Saban Come on, no chance.

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Speaker 1: And I think for the first time in Urban's coaching

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Speaker 1: career he has a guy who specifically signs the check

641
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: and said, Urban, this is not gonna work. He's gotta go,

642
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: and he was gone. The strength coach Chris Doyle resigned.

643
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: Albert Brier wrote that other teams in the league were

644
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Speaker 1: looking into him. When you're good at something, even if

645
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Speaker 1: you have issues, people are gonna be interested in you.

646
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: If Chris Doyle is the best strength coach in the country,

647
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Speaker 1: no matter how ugly and shitty and just terrible, the

648
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: stories that come out and things that actually happened are

649
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: people are gonna be interested in them. Just the nature

650
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Speaker 1: of the private sector. You want the best, even if

651
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Speaker 1: the best aren't great people. It doesn't always work, but

652
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Speaker 1: we just we have a long history, especially in football,

653
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: of seeing the way teams look at players that are

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Speaker 1: bad guys. No no team has ever signed a bad

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Speaker 1: guy that they thought couldn't play, but many teams, well

656
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: before I was born until well before after I'm gone,

657
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: we'll sign guys who are very questionable off the field

658
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: but are great on the field. Same with coaches, right,

659
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: you hire coaches who might not be great guys because

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00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: they're good coaches, whether that's in the weight room or

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Speaker 1: whether that's you know, my running back coach, offensive defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator or whatever. If you're great at your job, no

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Speaker 1: matter how bad of a human you are, the private

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Speaker 1: sector will give you way too many opportunities. Nature of money. Right,

665
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Speaker 1: But I think this, this Jag situation is like it

666
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: might be a little more difficult than we thought. And

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00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: there's a spotlight on this franchise now for two reasons.

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Speaker 1: One that's whatever Meyer brinks. The other they're gonna draft

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, who I've already said is overhyped, And I

670
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Speaker 1: don't mean he's not talented. I don't mean that he's

671
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Speaker 1: not gonna be a Pro Bowl player. I don't mean

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't have a chance to be one of

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in the league. But anything less than that,

674
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Speaker 1: anything less than consistent Pro bowls, consistent getting this team

675
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, is gonna be a disappointment. That is

676
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: the pedestal that he's been put on. He's the best

677
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: prospects since since Luck, and people say, like he might

678
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: not be Luck, but he's damn close. Well, Luck was

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00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: the best prospects since Elway and like Manning, So you're

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Speaker 1: putting him in that breath. Obviously Elway and Manning top

681
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks. Ever, Andrew Luck would have had an unreal

682
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: career if he didn't quit retire right. He immediately gets

683
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Speaker 1: to the Colts, who have a bad coach, bad GM,

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Speaker 1: bad roster, playoffs, playoffs, playoffs. By his third year, they're

685
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Speaker 1: in the a f C Championship game against the Patriots.

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00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: That's when if like Kate was, you know, they turned

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Speaker 1: him in. So Andrew Luck, I mean, I know he

688
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: didn't win a Super Bowl, but it was pretty clear

689
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Speaker 1: that he was elite. He was damn good Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Anything less than that is gonna be viewed as a

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Speaker 1: disappointment because the hype is so strong. It's one thing

692
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Speaker 1: to be the number one overall pick and a guy

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Speaker 1: who thinks gonna be really good. It happens all the time,

694
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Speaker 1: right Myles Garrett, even number two, like Nick Bosa, the

695
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: hype was really strong. They just have to be solid

696
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: and then they become good. With the quarterback. The pressure

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00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: that's on him already, this kind of spotlight that's on

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer. It's gonna be difficult now. They are lucky,

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Speaker 1: small market. He's used to playing in that little southern

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00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: you know that area. Right, He's from Clemson. He went

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Speaker 1: to Clemson. He's comfortable like playing in that region. Uh,

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00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: not a huge no cultural shift, right, It's not like

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Speaker 1: he's moving to Texas, moving to California, moving to New York.

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Speaker 1: I would have said the New York transition would be

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Speaker 1: pretty difficult going from Clemson, a pretty insulated program led

706
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Speaker 1: by a head coach, you know, pretty religious. They have

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Speaker 1: a big religious you know, kind of undertoned without the program.

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00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: It's a big part of just Southern football, and no

709
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: one cares about that in New York. Right the moment

710
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: he threw two picks, people would be on his ass.

711
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: A little easier here, but I do think this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be covered pretty closely because of the head coach

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Speaker 1: and kind of the greatness slashed, the drama that Urban brings.

714
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Speaker 1: Here's the other problem, and I've said this over and

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Speaker 1: over for Trevor and even Urban, the division is not easy.

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Speaker 1: The Texans disaster easterby uh, he's got some issues, right,

717
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: David Kelley probably not gonna be a good coach, Their

718
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: roster stinks, They're probably gonna trade we think maybe who knows,

719
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. That franchise is a complete dumpster fire. That

720
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Speaker 1: franchise right now has set the bar for being a

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Speaker 1: laughing stock in the league. So yeah, you you know,

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Speaker 1: in theory you get to beat them twice a year.

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Speaker 1: But the Titans, they're really good. They have a playoff

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Speaker 1: head coach, they have a playoff GM, they have a

725
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Speaker 1: playoff roster. The Colts, well, they don't have a quarterback,

726
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Speaker 1: which is a pretty big thing not to have. They

727
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Speaker 1: have a dominant roster who most football fans, you know,

728
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Speaker 1: would I think would agree with me. They have a

729
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: roster like Andrew luck was our quarterback would be like them.

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Speaker 1: They're the Chiefs, Like, that's how good they're rosters one

731
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: of the best in the league. They just got to

732
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Speaker 1: get a quarterback. And we saw last year they got

733
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Speaker 1: a thirty nine year old over the hill Philip Rivers.

734
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Speaker 1: They won eleven games. So if they just get the

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00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: middle of the road starter, like they're gonna win ten

736
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: eleven games, those two teams are gonna kick the Jacks

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Speaker 1: ass unless Urban is elite or Trevor Lawrence is elite.

738
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Speaker 1: And I think we're already seeing that there's a transitional period.

739
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: Any time a college coach who has never been in

740
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: the NFL comes to the NFL, do you know an

741
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: underrated part that no one ever talks about, like Belichick

742
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: or Andy Reid or even like a Kyle or McVeigh,

743
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: like the younger guys who have been in the league

744
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: for over a decade plus. But I'd say the head coaches,

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00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: for sure, they have evaluated coming out of the draft.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton would fall under this, the Zimmers, Pete Carroll's

747
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: all the coach Tomlins, all the players coming out of

748
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: the draft, they evaluated, and then once the guys get

749
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: to the league, over that decade plus or whatever, they

750
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: have coached against them, so they know their strengths and

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00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: their weaknesses. And the coaches when I used to put

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Speaker 1: together the Advanced Scouting Report, and when I say put together,

753
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: I meant Riddick would do it when my first year there.

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Speaker 1: And I would print them out and I would put

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Speaker 1: them in binders. You know that when you're the lowest

756
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: guy that totem pole, you become very very competent with

757
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: the copy machine and printing things out and putting them

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00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: in three ring binders. And when you put those together

759
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: and you do mass copies for all the coaches and

760
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: the players, I guess the coaches then would make them

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Speaker 1: for the players. I would just make them for all

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Speaker 1: the coaches, because the coaches would make specific ones for

763
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: the players. It starts with the coaching staff, the offensive

764
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: and defensive coordinators. So if you're Mike Tomlin, if you're

765
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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, if you're Andy Reid, if you're Sean Payton

766
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Speaker 1: or Belichick. Every single coordinator in the league, especially the

767
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: guys that are kind of you know, they have been

768
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: coordinators and multiple stops. Multiple places have been doing it.

769
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Speaker 1: You know their scheme, you know their strengths and weaknesses.

770
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: As a coach, you know there go two calls. Then

771
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: when I factor in the roster they're using. I know

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Speaker 1: what if I'm Belichick and I'm coaching against you know whoever,

773
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Speaker 1: Robert Sale right, la Fleur, I know the scheme that

774
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: La Fleur wants to run and they haven't even coached

775
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: the game. I know a scheme that Robert Salo wants

776
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: to run. I know every player in their roster once

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00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: it's finalized. I've either evaluated all their rookies or all

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00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: their veteran players have evaluated. Right, I've seen them all.

779
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: I've coached it. And even if you when you get

780
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: free agent stuff, you've played against him, you've seen them

781
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: on cross tam Urban has none of that, And you

782
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: can say, well, that's why it was so important for

783
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: him to get guys in the NFL experience for sure,

784
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: But you are that boss as the head coach. It's

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00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: why these guys, like when Sean Payton goes into a game,

786
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: when Andy Read goes into a game, their knowledge as

787
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: the game is going of a certain player of a

788
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: certain coach, of certain calls is kind of second nature.

789
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: Think about any job you do, whatever job you've been

790
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: in for a long period of time, whether it's a

791
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: sales job and you've been doing it for two decades,

792
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: you know all the guys on the first name basis.

793
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: Most of these places you go into, you're not just

794
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: maybe you've been business partners with them for a decade.

795
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Speaker 1: They buy your stuff or you buy their stuff or whatever.

796
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: The uh the business the business relationship is that helps.

797
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: There's a reason like when you first get hired at

798
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: a job and you've never especially if you've never worked

799
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: in an industry, it's gonna take you a little time

800
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: the nuances and that are required on a daily basis,

801
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: let alone a weekly basis, let alone a yearly basis.

802
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: There is institutional knowledge of doing something for a while

803
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: that just helps you be better at your job. The

804
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: longer I've recorded a podcast, the easier it is for

805
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: me to put together a show. This translates into any

806
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: walk of life. No different in football, Like are you

807
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: telling me that urban Meyer just knows all the strengths

808
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: and weaknesses of everyone on the Titans? He can watch tape,

809
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: But it's a big difference of a guy that's been

810
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Speaker 1: watching tape for years and watching Derrick Henry progress and

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Speaker 1: seeing the ups and downs of Tanney Hill and knowing

812
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Speaker 1: what you know, Uh Evans the middle linebacker, the way

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Speaker 1: a Dory Jackson plays, or you're talking the Colts, you

814
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: know what's Michael Pittman's strengths and weaknesses. Some of the

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Speaker 1: things Darius Land are struggles at. I mean, these are

816
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 1: just things that if you've played these teams a couple

817
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: of times, you would just know it's gonna take some time. Now,

818
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: maybe he's that a lead of a coach. He can

819
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: just come to the NFL and kick ass. But the

820
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: pressure on him and the pressure on Trevor Lawrence, I

821
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: do think it's fair to say, and I think he's

822
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: gonna have some success. If you had to say, John

823
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Bull take for the for the Jacks, I bet they

824
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: win ten games by their second year. Now, Chip Kelly

825
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: won ten games his first year and was out of

826
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: the league within four more years. Right, just because you

827
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: win ten games, is he gonna win Super Bowls? Is

828
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna I wouldn't necessarily bet against him, But after

829
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Speaker 1: this Chris Doyle thing the pressure on Lawrence, I do

830
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Speaker 1: just wonder if it's gonna be a little more difficult,

831
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Speaker 1: just because it's just difficult to begin with. It's hard

832
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: to win games in the NFL if you're Mike tom

833
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: Win or Pete Carroll. Let alone, a guy that doesn't

834
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: know a lot of the personnel in the league, doesn't

835
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: know a lot of the coaches in the league in

836
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Speaker 1: terms of coaching against them. He knew the guys in

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, like he knew Chris Harbaugh, and due to

838
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: Michigan State, D'Antonio like, you get comfortable with going against

839
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: the path of Gerald and Northwestern like said, they've had

840
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: the same coaches in the conference for a while. We're

841
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL, A ton of movement, ton of coordinators

842
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: changing all the time. It's uh, it's gonna be fascinating

843
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: to watch and I can't wait. Okay, let's get to

844
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Speaker 1: the Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff is the is

845
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Speaker 1: the Instagram fire up in those d m s and

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Speaker 1: get your question answer right here. My question is about

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Speaker 1: sports betting. I used Bivada to bet through the season

848
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Speaker 1: and other sports. I wanted to get your opinion on

849
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: sports betting insiders consultants. I see ads for them on

850
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: lots of Instagram stories and such, and was wondering if

851
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: you've seen the same things and what your opinion on

852
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: them is worth it or not? Thanks man, keep up

853
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: what you're doing. I had this thought other day, might

854
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: have been on a few edibles and I was deep

855
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: in thought and listen. I follow like Vegas Dave on

856
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: Instagram for the entertainment value, and clearly he's making a

857
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: lot of money off selling his picks. Here's the thing, like,

858
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: if you were a stockbroker. I had this thought the

859
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: other day because I person told me one time he's

860
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: like you, notice, like stockbrokers, even though they deal with

861
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: a ton of cash, aren't like as rich as lawyers,

862
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: or like the number one accountant, Like those guys always

863
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: have the bigger house in the country club than the

864
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: big financial guy. Now I'm not talking like David Tepper.

865
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about your local financial guy. And maybe

866
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm wrong that that was just his tick. I'm like, well,

867
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: I dabble in the market. Hopefully I make it, but

868
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: maybe I know, maybe I won't. Who knows. But if

869
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: you were a great sports gambler, wouldn't you just make

870
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: a ton of money off your fucking picks for yourself.

871
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: If I was elite at it, like I mean elite elite,

872
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't I just bet like millions of dollars on every game,

873
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: and if I'm hitting at a really high rate, make

874
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: a ton of money. Wouldn't that be my sole job.

875
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to poo poo any of these guys,

876
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: but my ultimate take is, and I've run into some

877
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: of these shows on television, I don't think they know

878
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: anything more than anyone else. Now, are there certain advantages

879
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: of some of the number breakdowns, for sure, But how

880
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: often have you heard someone's take, whether it be through

881
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: a consultant, whether it be on TV, and you'd be like,

882
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: you know what, that makes a ton of sense. I'm

883
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: gonna put hundred dollars or five hundred all whatever your

884
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: bet is, million dollars, five hundred dollars, five hundred thousan

885
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: dollars on the Mavericks game that guy just sold me,

886
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: and then they lose by twenty points, or like I

887
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: love the Tennessee Titans this weekend and they lose by

888
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: fifteen points. I think the hardest part about sports gambling

889
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: and what makes it so fun nobody knows a goddamn thing.

890
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there are people that have more maybe information,

891
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: but like once the information like so and so is injured, okay,

892
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: well we're all going to know that by the time

893
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: the game starts. Like I, I just don't think they

894
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: know anything more. I remember working in the league, being

895
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: around the players and coaches every day and no clue

896
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna win or lose. None. You go to

897
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: practice and like, yeah, I think we're looking pretty good.

898
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: Lose by twenty go to practice back, God, we look

899
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: don't look great, or the training camp like we're not

900
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna be any good. All of a sudden you're like, yeah,

901
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: we're four no, right or whatever. I don't think anyone knows.

902
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: That's my and I like to gamble, and I gamble

903
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: a lot, but it's more off like gut feel and

904
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: more on, like I know I can lose. I I

905
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: don't think any of these people know anything. That's my

906
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: ultimate take. And for my stockbrokers out there, that wasn't nice.

907
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: Sure many of you are very successful. It just feels

908
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: like the lawyers make a little more cash than the stockbrokers.

909
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: Where's a pretty good job. I mean, sometimes whenever my

910
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: friends or people I know get involved in legal situations

911
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my god, you see my lawyer bills.

912
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, god, damn, No, one of these people went

913
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: to school for so long and they get to charge

914
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: that much an hour. Holy moly. Why doesn't Brady take

915
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: the veteran minimum similar to what Breeze did so the

916
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: Bucks can have some cash to sign some of these

917
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: free agents. He's already got loads of money and be

918
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: his best interest to keep some of those guys. Drew

919
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: Brees did that because he's gonna retire and he's gonna

920
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: save the Saints money. Drew Brees is not taking the

921
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: minimum and gonna play on the minimum. Drew Brees is

922
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: taking that haircut so the Saints have more cap space

923
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: when he's gone. If Drew Brees was gonna play this year,

924
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: he would make million dollars. So, I mean, why would

925
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Brady take a pay cut? He just made million dollars

926
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: and they won the Super Bowl. Why couldn't he just

927
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: win at twenty five million dollars? Tom Brady, twenty five

928
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: million dollars. You know, the salary caps a hundred eighty

929
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: five million dollars. I'm not a mathematician. But what's that

930
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: like twelve of the cap. He's Tom Brady. He just

931
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: he showed up. They want a Super Bowl. I got

932
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: no problem paying him that much money. Um, I think

933
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: he is playing on a discount. You could argue Tom

934
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: Brady to the Bucks, it's worth like forty million dollars

935
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: a year. Question if stadiums get back to full capacity

936
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: next season, do you see the reintroduction of crowd noise

937
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: is something that would slow down, mitigate, or hamper the

938
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: high octane offensive leagues? And conversely, do you see this

939
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: impacting defenses into what degree? Uh? Besides like Brady or

940
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: Rogers or just the elite guys Russell Wilson, they've proven

941
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: that they can mahomes even they can play with fans,

942
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: they can play with no fans. I do think there

943
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: were a lot like Derek Carr had a big year

944
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: and he had not been playing well. Did he benefit

945
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: from no fans? Josh Allen? I like Josh Allen a lot.

946
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: He had breakout year when the place was empty, like

947
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: we'll see same with Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert had the

948
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: greatest rookie season in the history of the league. What's

949
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: gonna happen when he's on the road in Kansas City

950
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: and you can't hear, it's probably gonna be a little

951
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: more difficult. There are just elements that I don't necessarily

952
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: know the answer to those questions, but it's something to

953
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. It's not Aaron Rodgers. And again,

954
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: he's an all time great player. He was he was

955
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: gonna be great whether fans showed up this year or not.

956
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: But I remember watching them play the Saints and he

957
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: was doing hard counts on the road and it worked.

958
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Like in New Orleans, that's not normal. Like, let's face it,

959
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: I've said it from the jump, all sports golf included.

960
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: If the fans are not there, it is not the

961
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: same thing. Colin Morikawa, a rookie, won the PG Championship

962
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: at Harding Park. There's no chance he wins if there

963
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: are forty five thousand people there. It's just he just

964
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: doesn't win. Like do the Dodgers win the World Series

965
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: without fans? Probably they had a really good team, but

966
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: it's probably a little harder. Do the Lakers win the

967
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: NBA Championship? Like, I know the Dodgers have the best team.

968
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: I knew the Lakers have the best team and player.

969
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: It is a lot harder to win on the road

970
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: when there's twenty thousand people there. Football like Tom Brady

971
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: played Patrick Mahomes. We go, Yeah, that felt pretty normal.

972
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: But would it have been harder for the Bucks at

973
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: Lambeau with fans, I think for sure. So I don't know.

974
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't No one knows the answer to this, right,

975
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: It's just it's hard to tell. But I think the

976
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: one thing we do know it's not nothing. And I

977
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: think the guys to really keep an eye on would

978
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: be Herbert Josh Allen. Um. I mean, Burrow is gonna

979
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: be back off an injury, but just some of the

980
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: younger players. Considering how the franchises run, personality of coaching staff,

981
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: and overall environment. What NFL team would you most like

982
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: to play for? That's a great question. Uh depends what

983
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: position I played. If I played defense, I'd probably want

984
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: to be a Steeler. I mean, yeah, I play linebacker.

985
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: Who do you play for Pittsburgh Steelers? Like that guy's

986
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: a badass. If I played offense, I mean I would

987
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: just the usual suspects, Sean Payton, Andy, Kyle McVeigh. That's

988
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: who I want. But if I played defense, I think

989
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: the Steelers would be so badass. Tomlin, the Steelers, the crowd,

990
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: the division. I just think that's a no brainer. Offense,

991
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: I'd want to play for one of the elite offensive coaches.

992
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: Or if I was a free agent right now, I

993
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: want to go play with Tom Brady. So I I

994
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: think it's less about like more offensively, I want a

995
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna get me the rock. Defensively, I just

996
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: want to play with a badass unit on a team

997
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: that cares about that. So I go Steelers offense, any

998
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: of those sweet offenses. I've been listening for a while

999
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: and love how consistently keep it real. Wondering if he

1000
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: saw the Al Davis first the NFL for thirty recently,

1001
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: as a younger NFL fan, I was amazed with Al

1002
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: and how much of a badass he was. If you

1003
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, I recommend it. I now have a

1004
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: newfound respect for the Raiders franchise. Uh yeah, I I

1005
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: saw the last twenty five minutes, the part where Pete

1006
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: Roselle retired, quit I didn't quite I gotta I haven't

1007
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: watched the majority of it. Al basically said like they

1008
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: hated each other, but said you know, I respect his

1009
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: just he was a bulldog. It kind of reminded me

1010
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: of like Trump and Hillary. They hated each other, but

1011
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: they respected each other. Was crazy. That's how it kind

1012
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: of felt with those two. With Alan, Pete Roselle, all

1013
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: Davis is a certified badass. He he took over an

1014
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: NFL team, He did not have any money. All Davis

1015
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: was not a is this man, he was a football coach.

1016
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: And then just I mean, he's an all time renegade.

1017
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: It means a legend. When I worked at the radio station,

1018
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: we had the Raiders and Al was dead by then.

1019
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: But like the Raiders, it's pretty cool to be around,

1020
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: like the history. It's kind of like a collegiate program.

1021
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Like all their alumni come around. A lot of just

1022
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: old school badass the names that like Damn that's how

1023
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: he longed for Damn. That's Cliff Branch for damn. That's uh,

1024
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: you know all these players like whoa right, there's just

1025
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: a feel. The brand's pretty special. Uh, they've fallen on

1026
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: pretty hard times the last couple of decades, but oh

1027
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: there's Fred Bolitnikoff and they're just cool. It's just it's

1028
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: kind of got the one thing I always appreciated about

1029
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders is not no fluff like that you don't

1030
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: need to wear suits like people just were walk up

1031
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: and shorts, T shirts, no dress code. But it's just

1032
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: like it's all about football. And that's always what it

1033
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: was with Al who was just Jerry Jones idolized Al

1034
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: Davis idolized him because he was such a renegade and

1035
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: just I don't know how the guy ran an NFL

1036
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: franchise without any money. You think about that. It's why ultimately,

1037
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: once the Raiders got into the spot they needed a

1038
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: new you know, a new home. They ended up moving

1039
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: to Vegas. They didn't have any money because it wasn't

1040
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: he wasn't like all these other guys. He didn't have

1041
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: side businesses. It was the Raids. That's all he cared about.

1042
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: And I worked with Greg Papa for a while, who

1043
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: was the voice of the Raiders for a couple of decades. Like,

1044
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: there's something pretty special about the stories. They didn't get

1045
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: some bad breaks, uh, you know leaving the Bay Area

1046
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: in the eighties, right in the early eighties, Well that's

1047
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: right when the Niners took over, and what I mean

1048
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: took over, like became a dynasty with Walsh Montana, so

1049
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: by the time they come back fifteen years later, even

1050
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: though the Raiders won a couple of championships in l A,

1051
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: it was like the peak of the Eddie to Bartelow,

1052
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Montana retired, Walsh and retired like

1053
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: they own this area. So they were always kind of

1054
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: the second fiddle here. You know, they owned the seventies

1055
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: with the Snake and just all their badass players, but

1056
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: then in the eighties they went to l A and

1057
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: the Niners took over, and then they came back, and

1058
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: they were always kind of treated second fiddle. For a

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Speaker 1: brief moment with Gruden, I remember being in high school,

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00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 1: the Raiders were badass. They were fucking sweet with Gannon,

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00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Greg Beekert, like that, Charles Woodson.

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00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: They were bad ass. And then they just sucked forever

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00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: and they became a laughing stock. And it's always when

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00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: you get an old guy like that who's in bad

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Speaker 1: health in a public job, it's really kind of sad

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00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: because al I mean, he's one of the most I mean,

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00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: he's a major figure not in NFL history, in sports history.

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00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: The dude just kept moving with no money and got

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00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: people like give him free stadium. I mean, he's a

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00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: legend and unlike most owners, it was his defense. He

1071
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: picked the players like Jerry Jones kind of the GM.

1072
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: They do have personnel people like Al was the boss.

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00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: Now it stopped working as he got older, but it worked.

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Speaker 1: I think the coolest part just google like the Raiders

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00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: mantra and just how they wanted to play. They were

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00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: throwing the ball in the seventies. Al Davis was throwing

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: go routes in the seventies. Think about that. They wanted

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00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: to play man demand defense and throw deep bombs. That

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00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: was their philosophy as a franchise and kicked the ship

1080
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: out of you and be dirty. I mean they got sweet.

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00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: The a f C was in the seventies. He had

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00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: those great Miami Dolphins teams. You had the legendary Pittsburgh teams,

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00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: and you have the legendary Raider teams. I mean there's

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00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: a lot of Hall of famers and that little those

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00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: three squads who are a couple of players you could

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00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: see making the Hall of Fame if they win a

1087
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or two. Obviously they would have to be close,

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00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: but the Super Bowl would put them over the top.

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00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: Talked about j J. Water earlier. I think he's already

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00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: probably close, Julio Jones probably already a Hall of Famer. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Who would be another guy who's like a great player,

1092
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald already Hall of Famer. I'd have to think

1093
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: about that, Probably Corey. I mean Philip Rivers could have

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00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: used one. Uh. I I have to think about that.

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00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to do just off the top of my head.

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00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: That's a good question, though. Can you give me three

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00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: realistic chances at Nola's next quarterback, whether free agency, trade

1098
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: of the draft. We know Mickey Loomis the GM is

1099
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: awesome at working the accounting books and always squeezes every buck.

1100
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: I love Breeze and always will. But I think as

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00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: an honest Saints fan when I say we should have

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00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: benched him during the playoffs to increase our super Bowl chances,

1103
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: in which our window of hope is closing every year

1104
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: based on the crazy salary cap hell. I hope to

1105
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: see him eventually ball out as an influencer in a

1106
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: big position or coach at New Orleans once he gets

1107
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: to have some well deserved fun and time off and

1108
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: the broadcasting or whatever the dude's a hero and an idol.

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00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: I just think we tried to make it a fairy tale.

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00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: I would kind of agree rather than watch the tape

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00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: and be brutally honest. I think that's what's hard about

1112
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: having Hall of Fame players is at the end, you

1113
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: kind of hold on and unless your team is like

1114
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning Denver Bronco team, their defense was the

1115
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: best defense in the league, you can't overcome it and

1116
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose in the playoffs. I would say your

1117
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: best option would just be bring Jamis back and tasom that.

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00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: That would probably be your most realistic option. I would

1119
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: say another option would be trade for Sam Donald. He

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00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: cost five million dollars. You'd have to do some cat maneuvering,

1121
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: but that's a cheap option that you can trade for

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00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: and maybe cost you like a third round pick depending

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Speaker 1: on what he goes for. The other option would be

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00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: to use future first round picks and trade up and

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00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: go get one of these guys, Trey Lance, Justin Field,

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. Get those guys now, because you were in

1127
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: the second round of the playoffs, Like you gotta come

1128
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: from mid twenties up to the you know single digits,

1129
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: so to go from like what's their to like pick

1130
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: seven or eight. It's not cheap, not cheap at all,

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01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: and part of the Saints they need cheap labor and

1132
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: cheap laborers draft picks. So I would say you just

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01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 1: roll back jamis most realistic. Trade for Sam Donald would

1134
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: be too, and then make a crazy trade in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm usually against fantasy level trades, However, do you see

1136
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Speaker 1: a deal like this or similar happening this offseason? Dak

1137
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Speaker 1: first round pick for Russell Wilson or Zeke plus pick

1138
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: insert team for first or second round pick. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys Dak Prescott, you need a franchise tag him,

1140
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: and let's just say the hypothetical franchise tag to trade

1141
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: to Dallas or to Seattle. Why would Seattle if they

1142
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: if they are forced to even trade Russell Wilson want

1143
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: to get Dak at that price. He cost thirty five

1144
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: million dollars this year and then he has to be paid,

1145
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: So you're basically just getting a guy who's more expensive

1146
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: than Russell Wilson but not nearly as good. If I'm

1147
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks and Russell is demanding a trade and

1148
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: I have to trade him, which I think, as we

1149
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: talked about last week, a couple of things are clear.

1150
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: Russell is a weirdo, a little different cat too. He's

1151
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: not happy with Seattle. Three. I don't think Seattle wants

1152
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: to trade him. But to me, if I'm trading him,

1153
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: like I'm trading him with the Jets, so I get

1154
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: the number two overall pick and draft a quarterback, I'm

1155
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: not getting Dak Prescott at thirty million dollars a year,

1156
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want that too expensive. To me,

1157
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have no chance to get Russell Wilson involving

1158
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: players no one wants Zeke. Zeke's not even the best

1159
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: running back on your own team. He's slow. That costs

1160
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: way too much money. Now, could you franchise, trade Dak

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Speaker 1: to someone else, and then trade all your first round

1162
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Speaker 1: picks for Russell? That would be possible Like that to me,

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Speaker 1: he's not quote unquote fantasy could trade like three first

1164
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: rounders and a second rounder to the to them, But

1165
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: then who's their quarterback? I just think if you're the if,

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01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: you're the only way. If even if I'm forced to

1167
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: trade Russell Wilson, I'm calling the Dolphins, and I'm calling

1168
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: the Jets because I need a draft a guy I'm not.

1169
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm not in the business unless I get to Shaun Watson.

1170
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: But I'm not in the business of taking Dak Prescott

1171
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: more expensive than Russell and it just makes no business sense.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, have a great week. See a little

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Speaker 1: later piece