1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: My brother demanded I move my wedding date two months 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: before the wedding. That's too soon. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: No, he just wants a new brother. That bad. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: He's like, move it even closer. So I, twenty eight female, 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: am getting married in two months. My fiance twenty nine Mail, 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: and I have been planning this wedding for over a year. 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: We picked the venue, sent out, saved the dates last year, 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: and everyone is known about the date for ages like 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: we're all in. The venue is booked, caterers, flowers, photographer. 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Basically everything is set and deposits have been paid. At 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: this point, we're just counting down the days, excited to 13 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: get married and celebrate with everyone. By the way, this 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: comes from Master Reach nineteen seventy seven on the arsas 15 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: joke storytime Separate it. So enter my younger brother, twenty 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: five Mail. 17 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: He's gotta have a name, Jim. 18 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: Jim. 19 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: He just got into the super competitive internship program that 20 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: he's been wanting to for a while, and he's over 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: the moon about it. 22 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: Congrade Jim Nice. 23 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm genuinely happy for him because I know this is 24 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: a big deal for his career. The problem is he 25 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: found out the start date is the same week as 26 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: my wedding, and he told me he can't come anymore. Obviously, 27 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: I was disappointed, but I assumed he'd be a little 28 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: bummed too, and we'd move on instead. He asked me 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: if i'd consider changing the wedding date. At first I 30 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: thought he was joking, but nope, dead serious. He's all, 31 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and I 32 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: really don't want to miss your wedding, but I can't 33 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: be in two places at once. 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: Interesting just clone yourself. It's weird that, like, OPI didn't 35 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: say that. Yeah, like it's a once in a lifetime thing. 36 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: Did you just have the day off? 37 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 4: What? 38 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? Come on, I told him, there's literally no way 39 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm changing the date where two months out everything is booked, 40 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: invites have been sent, guests have rsvp'ed, and people have 41 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: already planned time off and booked hotels. Not to mention, 42 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: moving a wedding isn't as simple as just picking another day, 43 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: especially at this point. There's a whole cascade of other 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: stuff I'd have to move, and that's if the venue 45 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: even has another date open anytime soon. He got annoyed 46 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: and basically said, so you care more about a party 47 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: than your brother's future. 48 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: Wow, it seems like you care more about yourself than 49 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: your sister's. 50 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Future future, which really pissed me off. Like, come on, 51 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: it's not like I didn't give everyone, including him, a 52 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: huge heads up about this date. He's known for over 53 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: a year. I get that the internship is important, but 54 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: it's not like he couldn't have communicated with them and 55 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: tried to work something out. 56 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: Right. 57 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: He could have said yeah, after he got the thing. 58 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I could have said, hey, I have one conflict. 59 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: Do you know anyone like this that would ask you 60 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: to do something like this? I don't think I do. 61 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: They're huge narcissism. It's pretty crazy. I'm like trying to 62 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: think of this as me. 63 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: No O. I was like, no, no, not you. Okay, 64 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: you're very considerate. 65 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: Oh thank you, that's very nice. 66 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: Well too consider it sometimes. 67 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Now my mom is all over me about it, saying 68 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: that I'll regret not having him there, and that why 69 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: does she not understand, and that I'm being selfish by 70 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: not even considering changing the date. You should say okay 71 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: and then come back like an hour later. I've considered it, 72 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not changing the date. 73 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: So the mom's mad. Yeah, has she never been married before? 74 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Apparently not. She doesn't know what goes into it. What 75 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: she's implying that family is more important than one day. 76 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: But I feel like this is the one day that 77 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: is actually about me and my fiance. Also, if the 78 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: family is more important than one day, then he'll get 79 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: over it. This is, in her words, just one day. 80 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: This is the one day that's actually about me and 81 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: my fiance. And I don't think it's fair to be 82 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: expected to turn my life upside down to accommodate his work. 83 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: My dad is staying out of it, classic, but I 84 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: can tell he thinks I'm being a bit unreasonable too, 85 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: what is up with his family? Yance is backing me up, 86 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: but I can tell he feels weird about the whole thing. 87 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: He's a big family guy and doesn't want any drama. 88 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: But he also knows how much we've already put into 89 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: this wedding, thousands of dollars of dollars they can pay 90 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: if they want to move the wedding. Who the brother 91 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: and the family? 92 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah true, I'm just like, why not pay or playing 93 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: to get. 94 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I just don't understand. I don't want to 95 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: sound like, I don't care about my brother because I do. 96 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: I love him and I hate that he won't be there. 97 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't think it's it's 98 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: reasonable to ask someone to change their wedding date this close. 99 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: It's not like we're talking about a birthday party or something. 100 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: This is a whole wedding though. Yeah, am I the 101 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: a hole for refusing to change the date and basically 102 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: telling him if he can't come, that's on him? Or 103 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: should I be more flexible here? And there are some 104 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: relevant comments to finish the story off. 105 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: Fick SMUs says, sounds like the brother is the Golden Shop. 106 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: I think so, because this is a really ridiculous request 107 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: to expect that op. Should you know fulfill this is 108 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: two months before a wedding that they've spent thousands of. 109 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: Dollars on In today's economy, Yeah. 110 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't. It's not just like as simple as literally 111 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: being like, oh well, just push it to the next day. 112 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: You don't know if you can get the venue that 113 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: you're at. You don't know if other people can do 114 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: that day. 115 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: The caterers, can they move that day? The videographers of 116 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: photographers or they also booked those weekends. 117 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's ridiculous, Laiko Karen says, you can't move mountains 118 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: for him. You can't screw over for everyone else who 119 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: saved the date. There's no argument here. The date is 120 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: the date. 121 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Now. 122 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: I get that he doesn't want to make waves, but 123 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: my sister's wedding seems like an easy ask. Is it 124 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: on a weekday? Why can't he do both? Tabil Butterfly 125 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: says this a lot of times, travel, hotels, time off 126 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: can't be rescheduled. Everyone else planned accordingly. They shouldn't all 127 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: be screwed over for one person. And David says, I 128 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: guess it's because it is a very competitive internship program, 129 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: especially since its start date is the same week as 130 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: the wedding. Don't you agree that if he did that 131 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: in his first week, that would be a huge red 132 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: flag for his managers. Just to be clear, OPI is 133 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: not the a hole, but it looks like you didn't 134 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: get the first part of the story right. I don't know. 135 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: It would be maybe a red flag, but he has 136 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: to I don't know. I think you can talk to 137 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: your bosses about that. But he cannot ask his sister 138 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: to do this, and that is the end. Of that story. 139 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: My boyfriend's son is the worst. I'm walking away. My 140 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: fifty three female boyfriend fifty three male has a son, 141 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: age fourteen, who lives with his mother. In the past, 142 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: we had gotten a lot. However, about eighteen months ago 143 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: everything changed. 144 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: Uh oh. 145 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from green eyed Magic on 146 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: the r slash ok storytime subreddit. Son did not like 147 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: living in our home due to the rules and boundaries 148 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: his father and I set up. 149 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: Only fifteen minutes of screen time. 150 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 151 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: That's tough, one kid, I would do that. How well 152 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: are you supposed to watch vegetoes. 153 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: That's true, you're right? 154 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: Or play Minecraft? Yeah, you're right, you're right. 155 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: I think I had probably more, but that was only 156 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: in a fifth grade when I had electronics. So he 157 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: left and now lives with his mother. It is worth 158 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: mentioning there is a history of physical and emotional abuse 159 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: by the mother on her two children. She and my 160 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: boyfriend have been divorced over thirteen years now, and he 161 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: fought for custody rights in the divorce to try and 162 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: protect his children from her abuse. Unfortunately, both children keep 163 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: running back to their abuser. On to the current issue, 164 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: Son's mother was going out of town for the weekend 165 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: and had arrange for Son to stay with his father 166 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: in our home. The only stipulation with Son needed to 167 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: be taken home each day to feed their pet guinea pigs. 168 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: All arrangements were made and agreed upon, so my boyfriend 169 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: and I made some arrangements for fun activities for Son 170 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: while he stayed with us. We were to have Son 171 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: from Thursday night through Monday, and my boyfriend adjusted his 172 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: schedule to accommodate getting him to school and feeding the pets. 173 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Friday morning, boyfriend drops Son off at home and he 174 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: was going to go to school from there. Later that morning, 175 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: boyfriend called me because Son had called, stating he had 176 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: an accident on his bicycle on his way to school 177 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: and could not attend because of it. Note Son is 178 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: notorious for skipping school at least twice a week and 179 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: mother always calls his absence in. 180 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: So it is excused, Oh boy. 181 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Y'all need to drive this boy to the front door. 182 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: I was contacted because I was closest in distance at 183 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: the time, and I offered to pick Sun up and 184 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: take him to the hospital to make sure there was 185 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: no major injury or concussion. Son called his mother. He 186 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: was excused from school. I was told to step off 187 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: and the issue was over. Mom was extremely upset. Her 188 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: son called her while she was away and told her 189 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: boyfriend to leave her alone. Boyfri friend picked up son 190 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: after work and he stayed the night at our home. 191 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: By the way, Son never speaks to me anymore, doesn't 192 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: want anything to from me, so I give him just 193 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: that nothing. This is it seems like no one is 194 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: really parenting this child effectively to do whatever he wants. 195 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: And I think, I mean, I don't know. I understand that. 196 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: You know, parents are busy and don't necessarily always have 197 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: the time to you know, some parents are able to 198 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: drive their kids to school. Some parents have to have 199 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: their kids take the bus like in that sense. But here, 200 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: I do think one solution if your child keeps skipping 201 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: school is to drive them and watch them go into 202 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: the school. That's I mean, it depends on their situation. 203 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: But Saturday, boyfriend took son and started on his day 204 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: of errands, a few chores around the house and plan 205 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: to take Son on a four by four off road 206 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: adventure in the afternoon. During their time together, a boyfriend 207 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: talked to son about skipping school and try to offer 208 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: some guidance father son talk. Son complained that the way 209 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: the world works is unfair, then had an emotional meltdown 210 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: over it, full on crying. It's his go to move 211 00:08:58,960 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: to get his way. 212 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's crazy. 213 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: One Aaron was talking was taking son to his home 214 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: to feed the guinea pigs. Boyfriend waited over an hour 215 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: in his car for some to come back so they 216 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: can continue the day. Boyfriend was playing games on his 217 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: phone and didn't realize the amount of time that passed. 218 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: How did you not realize an hour past? Son did 219 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: not communicate anything to his father, would not answer the door, 220 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: and when boyfriend called him, Son said he was not 221 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: going with him and locked him in the apartment. The 222 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: upsetting part about this is that son didn't bother to 223 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: tell anyone he had planned this and left his father 224 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: outside to wait. When boyfriend got home, we discussed some options. Wait, 225 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: you just left your fourteen year old. 226 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: This stude's already an adult. He gets a calls on shots. 227 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Apparently, In the end, it was decided boyfriend would go 228 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: to collect his son in the evening and if son 229 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: refused to come or communicate with him he would have 230 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: to get the police involved. Reminder, mom is out of 231 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: town and he had already stated she did not want 232 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: to be bothered. There was a one hour showdown and 233 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: son would not come out of the apartment. He did 234 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: not answer calls from his father and turned out all 235 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: the lights pretending Noam's home. Boyfriend then called the police. Yeah, 236 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: it seems like neither bio parent is willing to actually 237 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: put in the work to parent their child, and every 238 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: time Ope gets tries to, she gets shut down by 239 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: everyone involved. So yeah, I don't know what you do here, 240 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: but I know that you guys can join us live 241 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: every weekday on YouTube at three pm PST. Just tap 242 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: her profile. I showed up just as the police were 243 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: talking with the son in the apartment. Police said they 244 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: spoke with his mother and she gave permission for her 245 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: fourteen year old to stay in the apartment overnight alone. 246 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: She's just doing the same thing that she does with 247 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: the school, Like he skips school and she's like, oh, 248 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: I told me he could do that. 249 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: He covers for him. 250 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: She covers for him every time. This is not how 251 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: you parents. 252 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 2: You're gonna be the downfall of your child. 253 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: Yes, police also said son felt threatened by father, made 254 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: accusations of abuse and had another hysterical breakdown. After some 255 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: discussion and laughing at the police advice, the mother and 256 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: son needed therapy. They'll never do it, we laughed. This 257 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: was the last straw for me. I told my boyfriend 258 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: that I will support him every way I can regarding 259 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: his relationship with his son, but I refuse to be 260 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: in the same situation or same vicinity of that boy 261 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: ever again. Should his son need to be in our 262 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: home for any reason, I will not be any vacations 263 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: planned which include the son. I will not participate or attend. 264 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: It seems harsh, but I refuse to get in the 265 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: way of my boyfriend's relationship with his son, and I 266 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: refuse to be around to see how this boy disrespects 267 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: everyone because he believes that the world should revolve around him. 268 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: I do not want to witness his disrespectful attitude, hear 269 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: how he speaks to his father and grandmother, nor do 270 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: I believe I have to. It hurts me to do this, 271 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: but I have reached a point where I believe I 272 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: have no other choice. So am I the a hole? No, 273 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to put up with this. 274 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: It seems like everyone's being just kind of letting this 275 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: slide and you're being affected by it. 276 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: So the closest thing I can think of that I 277 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: could relate to is if I was with someone and 278 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: they treated their dog badly or their dog was act 279 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: I would get yick and you probably want to leave. 280 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm always like people have like badly behaved dogs. Well, 281 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, obviously sometimes you get like a you adopt 282 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: a dog, and there's stuff, But if you just have 283 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: a dog that you're not even trying to train, and. 284 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: The way you talk to the dog or the way 285 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: you react with the dog, indeed, this is crazy. If 286 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: you do not enable, you will not have entitlement issues 287 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: with your child. Just dump the man, Savannah Baba. 288 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, I don't want to make him choose, 289 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: So I think that we need to like either. 290 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: Just break up. 291 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, do you think my dad is a bad dad? 292 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 5: And this actually is a listener submission. Your mom is Shrek. 293 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 5: They submitted to our slash Okop show on Reddit, and 294 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 5: so we're gonna this is actually the second story that 295 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 5: we've read from your mam' Shrek. 296 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, your mama Shrek. 297 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 5: Thank you for being so active in a love your 298 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 5: little community. We love you absolutely. Okay, but this one, 299 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: this one gets a little serious. So Johnny you ready. 300 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: I'm buckled in. 301 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 5: Okay, Hey guys again, I just wanted to say thank 302 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 5: you so much for the advice. My best friend told 303 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 5: me how they were so proud of me for posting 304 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 5: my story because I struggled to talk about it. We're 305 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 5: proud of you too. So on to the story. Since 306 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 5: what happened to my mom, my dad has taken me in. 307 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 5: He was also going through a divorce. He was not 308 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 5: getting a divorce with my mom. They were getting a 309 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 5: divorce because they were not happy and had a miscarriage. 310 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 5: Geez rough. My dad was very depressed, which I did 311 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: not see because I was a very happy seven year old. Okay, 312 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 5: so I guess we're back in time a little bit. 313 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: He basically straight up, after getting divorced, got into a relationship. 314 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 2: I liked her. 315 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 5: She taught me a lot, but she was not my 316 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 5: mom and more of a friend. On New Year's in 317 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, they broke up. He told me the 318 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 5: worst things about her, and I could not say anything 319 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 5: because it was not my place too, which actually, you know, 320 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 5: it's probably not like a great thing for your dad 321 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: to do. Oh not in general, to like, you know, 322 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 5: trash talk someone he dated, Like you know, I get, 323 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 5: I get maybe being a little angry if the breakup 324 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 5: was bad, but yeah, not the best thing to tell 325 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 5: your kid, agreed. After they broke up, her son had 326 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 5: to move out, which took around six to eight months. 327 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 5: I was very depressed because my dad has become a 328 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 5: bit of an alcoholic and his ex girlfriend would feel unsafe. 329 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 5: She would shout at me and call the police, but 330 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 5: I didn't. When they moved out, my dad started dad NonStop, 331 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 5: and he brings a new girl every week, and I'm 332 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 5: tired of it. I'd be tired of my roommate bringing 333 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 5: someone home new every week too, Honestly. I tried to 334 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 5: talk to him, but he says I'm stopping him from 335 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 5: finding love, which I think is byes. My dad said 336 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 5: of the family is fifty to fifty. So I don't 337 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 5: know what to do. I have been talking with my 338 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 5: friends and they say he's a bad dad. So is 339 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 5: my dad a bad dad? I mean, we only have 340 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: so much information on this, right, yeah, yeah, so we 341 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 5: can't give sweeping generalized advice or you know, designations if 342 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 5: someone's a bad dad. But before we give our breakdown, 343 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 5: love to hear what you guys in the comments think. 344 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 5: This is this is one of our own. This is 345 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: from the Okay gang, So let us know what you think. 346 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: Your mom is Shrek to do? John, what are your thoughts? 347 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean definitely, Like so talking to your 348 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 4: family saying it was fifty fifty and once again you 349 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: know we're not experts, but of course you ask and 350 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: we will always share our thoughts and opinions because we 351 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: love you. I think if there's fifty percent of the 352 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: family that does agreeing basically that it's like not a 353 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: good environment essentially, that's I think what it kind of 354 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: boils down to, Like I wonder if talking to them 355 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: and seeing like is there a way where, like potentially 356 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: living with one of them, if there's a better situation, 357 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: or even even just their advice, because it sounds like 358 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: they get. 359 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: From all they would have more information, you know. 360 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: They would have more information exactly, and you know, from everything, 361 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: it sounds like this is not a good environment or 362 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: one that you deserve to grow up. And I think, 363 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: if I remember correctly, from the first story op is 364 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: eleven right now. 365 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: Ye, my memory serves me correct. 366 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: So I think talking with the fifty percent of the 367 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: family that does agree with you for just advice and 368 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: just just talk to them in general, I feel like 369 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 4: would be a good move. 370 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so too. You know, I don't want 371 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 5: to say anyone is bad. A lot of us are 372 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 5: just doing the best we can with the circumstances for given. 373 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: But it doesn't seem like your dad is like being 374 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 5: as good of a role model as he could be, 375 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: you know. And you know, parenting is hard and it 376 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 5: takes a lot of like dedication and poor thought. And 377 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 5: I think think from what you're saying, like you know, 378 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 5: from the alcoholism to shouting at his ex girlfriend to 379 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: you know, talking really terribly about that ex girlfriend to 380 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 5: bringing home a new girl every week, it just doesn't 381 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 5: sound like the most stable environment. And like you know, 382 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 5: as a kid, you need a stable environment. So I 383 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 5: would definitely talk to like what John said, talk to 384 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 5: the other side of the family, see what they can 385 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: do to help, because this is not an ideal environment, 386 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: I think for you. 387 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, I think that's the way to look at it. 388 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: Whether it's like like maybe even not even specifically about 389 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: your dad, but is this the best place? Is this 390 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: the best Yeah environment for you to be in right now? 391 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: Half your family sounds like they're in your corner, so 392 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: I would talk to that for sure. 393 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, keep us updated, OP, please do, and also anyone 394 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 5: watching it, feel free to give some advice if you've 395 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 5: been in a situation similar, or if you haven't, just 396 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 5: have something that you want to say. I would love 397 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 5: to hear from you. 398 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely,