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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December sixth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode
Speaker 1: number eighty five. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Morgas studios at the Star,
Speaker 1: and we're ready to talk some Cowboys football with you guys.
Speaker 1: This morning. We're gonna focus in on the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: Dave has a scouting report in New York's offense. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about that today. I hope he has the offense
Speaker 1: and no, yeah, okay, that look made me think, oh god,
Speaker 1: did you do Denos? That look was like they're bad?
Speaker 1: That was okay, good, good, perfect. I like to hear that.
Speaker 1: That'll be good. So we'll talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: And uh, we'll start first though, talking a little bit
Speaker 1: about the cornerback situation. They will probably be without Orlando
Speaker 1: Scandrick and we'll talk about what that could mean for them.
Speaker 1: How's everybody doing this morning? Good? Lovely? Great? Coach? You
Speaker 1: good Amber. I'll just do the wave. It's Wednesday. It's Wednesday, coach.
Speaker 1: I mean, what should we do on a Wednesday? Y'all
Speaker 1: feel a little Wednesday? Thank you? Y'all feel a little
Speaker 1: out of sorts now? I feel great. Just I don't
Speaker 1: mean like tired or just it. We're finally like back
Speaker 1: into like the Monday Friday grind. Oh yeah, after I
Speaker 1: mean it's literally been a month since the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: been on their normal schedule. Yeah, so it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like one of the normal schedule again. I don't think
Speaker 1: that'll happen And that's probably Sunday, right because because it's
Speaker 1: been a week since they've played, Like, it feels like
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be getting ready to play a game,
Speaker 1: but it's Wednesday. When they announced that Alfred Morris was
Speaker 1: one of the three finalists for that award X Aaron
Speaker 1: Grown like for what game? Yeah, feels the last game
Speaker 1: Redskins game was like a month ago. Yeah, it's been
Speaker 1: a while. It's been a while since they played some football.
Speaker 1: But they'll be back on Sunday at noon. In case
Speaker 1: you guys didn't know, the game was flexed down. It
Speaker 1: was a supposed to be a three twenty five game,
Speaker 1: three thirty games, something like that, but now it's been
Speaker 1: flexed back to a noon game, which for us, it's
Speaker 1: pretty good. How many times in history has an NFC
Speaker 1: dot like that? It's fine, I mean, it's all it
Speaker 1: all is good until you're rushing on to get on
Speaker 1: the bus at nine thirty and because you got like
Speaker 1: a one hour bus ride to the stadium, and you're like, man,
Speaker 1: why didn't it just keep it at three? These guys
Speaker 1: are morning person though, they get up and I'm much
Speaker 1: to do that breakfast late night. How how how many
Speaker 1: times ever in y'all's twenty years being around here has
Speaker 1: a NFC East game been flexed out of prime time
Speaker 1: and into how Boys four Eagles, Cowboys and O seven.
Speaker 1: I was glad. I was like, how about to say
Speaker 1: I don't remember that? I was just gonna ye, like
Speaker 1: you must looked at the notes or something now, and
Speaker 1: why would they put that in there? This one got
Speaker 1: moved down? Yeah? Yeah, PR's like, this is only the
Speaker 1: fifth time we've been in a bad enough matchup to
Speaker 1: get flexed out of primetime. Yeah, yeah, but they did
Speaker 1: not get flexed out of that Sunday night game next week.
Speaker 1: That's not happening. So they'll be playing next week against
Speaker 1: the Raiders in prime time seven thirty in Oakland. So
Speaker 1: that'll be a fun night, you know, Glenn, we'll get
Speaker 1: back at about three o'clock in the morning. That'll be good,
Speaker 1: all right. So that that could have been a because
Speaker 1: because of the Pittsburgh game, Pittsburgh and New England, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be the game. Everybody's kind of looking at, like,
Speaker 1: you know, both of them are ten and two right now, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that would be the game you'd probably think.
Speaker 1: But as I was selling someone else, you look at
Speaker 1: the just the size of the fan bases between the
Speaker 1: Cowboys the Raiders, and by the way, the Raiders are
Speaker 1: still in contention to win. The Raiders winning against the
Speaker 1: Giants put them back in right. Yeah, so it's their
Speaker 1: division is I think everybody's either at five hundred or below,
Speaker 1: so they're still in contention win their division. The Cowboys,
Speaker 1: if they win this weekend, continue to be in the
Speaker 1: mix for the playoffs, so then it becomes a meaningful
Speaker 1: game with two really large fan bases. So I'm sure,
Speaker 1: I'm sure NBC wasn't wouldn't have been happy to give
Speaker 1: that up. All right, let's talk some Cowboys football. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about these cornerbacks. It's interesting yesterday, Dave, I don't
Speaker 1: know if Orlando was listening to our show, but I
Speaker 1: heard him yesterday evening on another show here in Dallas
Speaker 1: where he was talking about They asked him, so, you know,
Speaker 1: you're talking about the injury and everything, and they said,
Speaker 1: so you kind of see if you can give it
Speaker 1: a go by the weekend. And you know, it's of
Speaker 1: course Orlando, and so it's an awkward pause and he's like, dude,
Speaker 1: I have a broken bone in my back. Do you
Speaker 1: think it's not a situation. I mean, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: it's not a situation of let's see if we can
Speaker 1: give it a go. I mean he said, I'll just
Speaker 1: keep doing the rehab and everything. And he said that, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of He was pretty adamant, like do you
Speaker 1: did you hear what I said? Like I got broken
Speaker 1: bones in my back. I would have expected him to say, like,
Speaker 1: de fine, give it a go, or like you just
Speaker 1: something contention. He was pretty He was pretty adamant, like,
Speaker 1: why are you asking me? You know what? Good for him?
Speaker 1: It was exact same thing you said on the show.
Speaker 1: You had a broken bone in his back. Like it's good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad good. You should be allowed to be honest
Speaker 1: about that. It's okay to take a week off if
Speaker 1: you broke a bone in your back. Yeah. So Nick
Speaker 1: looks like he disagrees. No, I do agree. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna put bad tape on of himself out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna do that. So and he proved that
Speaker 1: two years ago. But he does have a broken bone
Speaker 1: in his he boned in his back. Whatever, it is good.
Speaker 1: I'm you're right about that. I am glad that he
Speaker 1: said that. I'm glad he said that. So at ten
Speaker 1: thirty five today when they asked Jason Garrett, I don't
Speaker 1: even ask him, right, Skendrick's not playing obviously he's got
Speaker 1: broken As he says that he's not in. He doesn't
Speaker 1: feel confident. Stephen Jones actually said Monday too. He was like, ah, man,
Speaker 1: it's probably a stretch to think he'll be ready and
Speaker 1: right by Sunday. So we're just gonna take a day
Speaker 1: by day by day? You good, I'm happy, like I'm
Speaker 1: glad we can bring a little sanity to the situation
Speaker 1: instead of being like, well, he's day by day with
Speaker 1: a broken bone on his back. It took Orlando bringing
Speaker 1: sanity to the situation for him. Yeah, but that being said,
Speaker 1: talk to me about the cornerback position and what you
Speaker 1: expect to happen. I guess the first question to be,
Speaker 1: who do you expect to be the starter opposite Cheetah
Speaker 1: bay Uh? Is it gonna be Jordan Lewis or would
Speaker 1: it be Anthony Brown? Love it? I know why you laughed,
Speaker 1: and it's hilarious. It is. It's just funny that like
Speaker 1: his first real game as a cowboy, and he played.
Speaker 1: He played really well, no doubt about it. But we're
Speaker 1: just like, well, who's starting off at him? He's in. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. He was a starter last week and
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything to push himself out of being
Speaker 1: a start. So it's like, it's just funny to be like, well, well,
Speaker 1: of course he locked that. Obviously Cheeto is gonna be
Speaker 1: there to shut down their number one. So who's coming
Speaker 1: with him? Who is there number one? That's a good question.
Speaker 1: The Oklahoma kid. He's their slot guy. I mean he
Speaker 1: doesn't really, he's more of a slotters Harris back. I
Speaker 1: don't we'll get into Yeah, the Harris Harris is and
Speaker 1: I are okay, they're they're up many Chris, Dwayne, Oh,
Speaker 1: who are you talking? I'm sorry, I Dwayne Harris. Lucius Harris,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't. I don't even. I don't
Speaker 1: even know who lucias random Lucius Harris. I don't even
Speaker 1: he played for the Mavericks, like in nineteen ninety. I
Speaker 1: think I've never heard that name before. You never heard
Speaker 1: of Lucius Harris. Maybe I have their guy mixed up.
Speaker 1: I think he played for the Mavericks like Nathan Harris.
Speaker 1: He's still on the team, Devin Harris. There's a Lucius Harris,
Speaker 1: Long Harris State, Long Beach State. Lucius Harris. I think
Speaker 1: he played about three years for the Mavericks. Thinking you're
Speaker 1: you're awesome, former New Jersey Net Lucius Harris, You're right, yes, weird,
Speaker 1: it is weird. It's so weird. All right, go ahead,
Speaker 1: Dave well kids like, you're right weird. We're done. We're
Speaker 1: done with the talking nets. Portion of the best. Sorry,
Speaker 1: they have a better chance to score points than the giants.
Speaker 1: Very true. Okay, I think Cheeto will maintain his at cornerback,
Speaker 1: and I think opposite him, I would probably give the
Speaker 1: first lumber to Jordan Lewis, okay, as the other star.
Speaker 1: As the other Stony Brown gets picks. And then then well,
Speaker 1: Landy Brown and Jeff Heath are like the same, like
Speaker 1: they they both get some turnovers now and again the
Speaker 1: ball kind of finds them. But you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm hoping, I'm open for debate. I mean this, you
Speaker 1: slide people up in a situation like this, next man
Speaker 1: up and all that good stuff. So would you rather
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis out there and put Anthony Brown in the slot?
Speaker 1: Would you rather mix that up? Would you rather put
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis out there and maybe Xavier Woods can be
Speaker 1: your slot guy? That was the next question is who runs?
Speaker 1: Who is in the slot? You know Xavier Woods has
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of that, but do you want
Speaker 1: to have Anthony Brown? Maybe that that because think it's
Speaker 1: the other way around. I think cornerbacks are like countdowns
Speaker 1: for TV shows and stuff. You know, you say you
Speaker 1: count three two one, That's the way it is a cornerback.
Speaker 1: I think you have to start with three. You have
Speaker 1: to start with the slot to see who that's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Then you start figuring the other two parts out. Unless
Speaker 1: the slot's going to be a guy that's not a cornerback, well,
Speaker 1: but you have to figure it out first. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's your best player, but I mean you figure
Speaker 1: that part out so you can also decide on who
Speaker 1: goes to the You know, if it is going to
Speaker 1: be Xavier Woods, that's a lot easier to decide who
Speaker 1: the other two corners are. You're also well, you're in
Speaker 1: a fun situation where the Giants slot guys their best
Speaker 1: receiver right now. Sterling Shepherd, I mean, Sterling Shepherd and
Speaker 1: Evin Ingram are like the only weapons that the Giants have,
Speaker 1: and Evin Ingram has been the most consistent of those
Speaker 1: because Sterling Shepherd's been out with injury a lot of
Speaker 1: this time as well. So I mean, take your pick.
Speaker 1: Both of those guys play inside. I would imagine Byron
Speaker 1: Jones will have a role in defending Ingram Xavier Woods too.
Speaker 1: Probably I would probably put Anthony Brown in the slot
Speaker 1: and put Jordan Lewis on the outside. That's my guess
Speaker 1: of what they'll do. And but again, like I always say,
Speaker 1: like it's it's always an all hands on deck type
Speaker 1: of situation, Like they don't ever just handle these things
Speaker 1: with three guys, Like it's five guys playing three positions
Speaker 1: more often than not. How much do you think this
Speaker 1: affects the Cowboys Orlando being out? I know there's some
Speaker 1: players on this team, they lose them and everything goes
Speaker 1: goes horribly wrong. Do you think it's one of those
Speaker 1: situations that do you think this is one where Cowboys
Speaker 1: are made to kind of understand this? Yesterday I was
Speaker 1: talking to someone over on the that area of the building,
Speaker 1: the coaching side, and not that this is anything new,
Speaker 1: because we've I mean, everyone that watches the game can
Speaker 1: obviously see that that their secondary is not the greatest one.
Speaker 1: But to hear it from someone that's over there and
Speaker 1: say that they definitely are not happy with any of
Speaker 1: their veterans. Pretty much overall, the rookies are doing way
Speaker 1: better veterans in the secondary. Yeah, So I mean, just
Speaker 1: to hear that it tells you a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, it just confirms or at least it gives
Speaker 1: you Okay, they are seeing what we see. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not that they're, um, how would you say this
Speaker 1: blinded by the situation Because a lot of people, let's
Speaker 1: say on Twitter and a lot of fans, they think
Speaker 1: that they don't see any of this and they don't
Speaker 1: address the situation. But the fact that Orlando is out
Speaker 1: or will probably be out for this game. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna really affect them at all. Not at all. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not. I mean, I'm sorry. You know it will
Speaker 1: affect them, but I don't think you'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: like Sean Lee being out type of It's more a
Speaker 1: situation of death like that just means that you have
Speaker 1: one less body, not so much right, right, right, but
Speaker 1: not necessarily production wise right. I would like to think
Speaker 1: that if there's a game where you can afford to
Speaker 1: be shorthanded at corner, it's this one. This is the game.
Speaker 1: This is a bad passing attack or it has been
Speaker 1: all this year, even with Elie back. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just clarifying, Like there's been this ground
Speaker 1: swell of sympathy for Eli since he got banned, and
Speaker 1: understandably so, but like he wasn't playing well. He has
Speaker 1: not had a good year, and I we can get
Speaker 1: into a lot of the reasons why, but you know,
Speaker 1: everybody takes him blame in that, including the quarterback. Like
Speaker 1: it's not just like he's this all pro with no
Speaker 1: help around him, right, and he hasn't had a great
Speaker 1: year at all, like their twenty second in the league
Speaker 1: in passing to go to go back to that point,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Orlando would disagree with that. I mean
Speaker 1: that they're not going to drop off at all with
Speaker 1: him out there. But if that really is the case,
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys think that way and it's not a
Speaker 1: huge change, then I think you'll you'll see that next
Speaker 1: year with the players on this team and not on
Speaker 1: this team. You know, Scandrick was a little bit upset
Speaker 1: obviously at the draft that they drafted three corners and
Speaker 1: they signed one free agency and he was thinking he
Speaker 1: was on the way out and he wasn't that year,
Speaker 1: but he might be the next year. You know, if
Speaker 1: if he really isn't missed that much when you have
Speaker 1: all these young guys, then I think it's it would
Speaker 1: be foreshadowing for next year. Where's his contract? You know,
Speaker 1: Adam's office, I guess I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just said that because I don't have to. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to. I guess the bigger question is if
Speaker 1: I'm not here, is it does it cost him a
Speaker 1: ton of money? And that sometimes dictates whether a guy's
Speaker 1: here or not is can you afford to make a
Speaker 1: move on him if he's got two or three more
Speaker 1: years left on his deal? It may be like h
Speaker 1: is better just to have him here than pay the
Speaker 1: money it cost to not have him here. I want
Speaker 1: to say that he's got a few more years. I
Speaker 1: want to say two more years left on his deal
Speaker 1: after this season. I also want to say that the
Speaker 1: way it's they, I mean, they've structure these things so
Speaker 1: they can get out of him after a few years,
Speaker 1: And especially for a veteran guy like him, I don't
Speaker 1: think it would be the end of the world if
Speaker 1: they tried to get like, you know, they're not going
Speaker 1: to be taken on this absurd amount of money if
Speaker 1: they were to do that. But I don't know it
Speaker 1: off the top of my head. Maybe it can help
Speaker 1: us out here and dead money and twenty eighteen would
Speaker 1: be three point eight that's not a huge number. Five,
Speaker 1: it would be six one this year, three eight, eighteen
Speaker 1: and one point six and nineteen, So I really, really
Speaker 1: you probably want to keep him through more. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would think. And there's no here's the thing, like, it's
Speaker 1: kept playing. I don't think he's playing poorly. So so
Speaker 1: it is exactly the same this year is next year.
Speaker 1: But five to eight, five to eight, that's not bad
Speaker 1: at all. The salaries exactly the same. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: well obviously it would be the same if the same
Speaker 1: cap number. So and you know what, if they wanted
Speaker 1: to do a post June one cut on him, it's
Speaker 1: one point four, so they could do that, and that
Speaker 1: makes a little more interesting. But still I don't think
Speaker 1: you would. Yeah, I don't think. I don't see any
Speaker 1: reason unless the only reason you would do that, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, is if the Cowboys opted this year to
Speaker 1: go back to the well and in the second or
Speaker 1: third round get a cornerback. If they do that, then
Speaker 1: maybe you consider it. But if your cornerbacks kind of
Speaker 1: stay the same or you get like a late round cornerback,
Speaker 1: you know, six seventh round, I don't think you would
Speaker 1: make that move just yet. But I mean if you
Speaker 1: stay I mean I could easily see him just dropping down.
Speaker 1: It's one of the we're talked about, is the way
Speaker 1: that these rookies have been tackling and the way they
Speaker 1: go about it and the energy, and I mean it
Speaker 1: makes sense their rookies, you know, young guys are eager
Speaker 1: to play and show what they can do. So obviously
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a difference there. But if they're doing
Speaker 1: a better job, then that's who you're gonna play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's great for the two rookies, and maybe that
Speaker 1: creates I think that's a good point, because maybe it
Speaker 1: creates a situation where Skeandrick just becomes your nickel guy
Speaker 1: and he's just playing in the slot. But I do
Speaker 1: have a little bit of pause about Anthony Brown. I mean,
Speaker 1: he played really well last year, but that also could
Speaker 1: be because expectations were where they were for sixth round
Speaker 1: picking his first year. So I'm not certain that I
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with the idea that Anthony Brown's gonna regularly
Speaker 1: be my slot. Until I started to see him get
Speaker 1: a little better. I would say right now, you'd still
Speaker 1: want to Orlando here, even if those rookies become your starters,
Speaker 1: your primary starters, right, yep. You know, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: his contract that from two fifteen to nineteen, so those
Speaker 1: five years there, I guess they give him a five
Speaker 1: year extension. Yeah, I mean it was very friendly for
Speaker 1: him and for the team. I mean his cap numbers.
Speaker 1: Think about this from a five year cap numbers four
Speaker 1: point three, four point four, five point two, five point two,
Speaker 1: five point six. I mean, usually a five year deal
Speaker 1: you see first two and then it balloons up, or
Speaker 1: three and it balloons up. This is a legitimate five
Speaker 1: year extension that they gave him, And I mean I
Speaker 1: could see him probably finishing this out as long as
Speaker 1: he plays pretty well. And I think he's if he
Speaker 1: doesn't bark too much when it comes to some of
Speaker 1: these other guys playing over him. But they got to
Speaker 1: beat him out too. Yeah, he is super far down
Speaker 1: the list of things that I think are wrong with
Speaker 1: the defense. I agree, But I do think this. I
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be an interesting month, whether they're
Speaker 1: in the playoff contention or not. Knock on wood. If
Speaker 1: Cheeto and Lewis specifically or stay healthy through the whole time,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be four games of them probably getting their
Speaker 1: most snaps of the season, and we'll see how they
Speaker 1: response to It's you know, it's that the age old
Speaker 1: football thing where if they have a bad month, you
Speaker 1: go into twenty eighteen like, oh, secondary is a problem.
Speaker 1: And if they have a great month and just play awesome,
Speaker 1: you're like, we're good at corner, We're set here, we're
Speaker 1: looking great. They're gonna take the step in twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be Pro Bowlers like that type of thing.
Speaker 1: So this will this will be interesting. I really, especially Cheetoh,
Speaker 1: I hope he can stay healthy enough to really put
Speaker 1: you know, three or four if games on tape. If
Speaker 1: he does that, Let's say he plays like he did
Speaker 1: in the Washington game. He'll have some plays where he
Speaker 1: gives up something here and there, and you know, they
Speaker 1: got the Raiders come in. They like to throw the
Speaker 1: ball down the field. But let's say plays really well
Speaker 1: at corner, no consideration at all to move him to safety.
Speaker 1: Like you feel like, if you got a good corner,
Speaker 1: keep him at corner. We'll figure out safety. I think
Speaker 1: the premier position is corner. And there was a time
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys were pretty static well, they had a
Speaker 1: lot of bodies at corner. They don't have that anymore,
Speaker 1: and they got to be thinking about the future. I
Speaker 1: think drafting him where they did, if he is a
Speaker 1: good cornerback, you leave him at cornerback. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. And what if they decide that thirty one
Speaker 1: is not a safety needs to play some corner. I
Speaker 1: think that should have no bearing on what you do
Speaker 1: with Cheetah Bay because if if he is a better corner,
Speaker 1: keep him at corner and replace the safety. Like if
Speaker 1: you if you don't think thirty one can play, replace him,
Speaker 1: put somebody else there. But that doesn't mean you gotta
Speaker 1: move somebody else. That sounds good. You lose a game
Speaker 1: or two, you're gonna you already, you guys already said
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be willing to give him the You're
Speaker 1: not you're not gonna take the option. No, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna stay out anyway, right Yeah, well mostly, I mean
Speaker 1: you never know, right, I know, there's some things that
Speaker 1: the deal here afterton right now, you guys don't think
Speaker 1: that he's worth the option. So my point is, don't
Speaker 1: move Cheeto out just because you're trying to find a
Speaker 1: place for him when he's not in your future plans.
Speaker 1: If that's what the Cowboys are thinking, right, But if
Speaker 1: the if the Cowboys don't, you know, run the table here,
Speaker 1: if they lose a game and get out pretty much
Speaker 1: out of the playoff rates, I would probably move Cheeto
Speaker 1: to safety just to see, just to see if he
Speaker 1: could maybe that is a better position. But let's say this.
Speaker 1: Let's say he plays He's played pretty good at corner right,
Speaker 1: and let's say he goes to safety, he plays pretty
Speaker 1: good at safety. Then what do you do? Then? I
Speaker 1: then I had to go into free agency and the draft,
Speaker 1: probably figuring out which player I need, and then I
Speaker 1: will move him accordingly. After that, if he looks like
Speaker 1: he can be a player at cornerback, I'd rather have
Speaker 1: him there. And you know, I think it's easier to
Speaker 1: find good safeties when you have good corners. I think
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's safety play probably has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: how good their corners are. Boy and Jalen Ramsey. I
Speaker 1: just it's harder to find cornerbacks, I think, So I
Speaker 1: agree with Yeah, I can't agree with that because the
Speaker 1: last good one was Woodson, So I can't agree with
Speaker 1: It's it's easier to find a safety when's the last
Speaker 1: good cornerback. Like when you win, you when was the
Speaker 1: last time you draft a cornerback that Turner took? Great one?
Speaker 1: I mean all right, I mean I mean yeah, But Orlando,
Speaker 1: I mean Orlando has probably been the best that you've
Speaker 1: had at cornerback in the last fifteen years. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. So, I mean you've had one, so
Speaker 1: it's really not a big difference. It's hard to find it. However,
Speaker 1: you have drafted one that made the Pro Bowl that
Speaker 1: in Orlando has not. Mike Jenkins New Year. I forgot
Speaker 1: about Mike. Well, it's like everybody's had one year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike had one year. He did and then it just
Speaker 1: kind of didn't, you know, hold off. The holy trinity
Speaker 1: of football is pass rusher, quarterback, cornerback, right, maybe left tackle.
Speaker 1: But and if if you can find it, if if
Speaker 1: you think, and this is way early to make these
Speaker 1: kinds of declarations, but if you get to a point
Speaker 1: where you think Cheeto has an opportunity to be a
Speaker 1: really good cornerback, I agree with you, Dave. I don't
Speaker 1: mess with that. I keep him at cornerback. I let
Speaker 1: him keep getting better in the hopes that I get
Speaker 1: myself a really good cornerback for several years. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's like our first bag. When we come back, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into the Giants offense. Dave's gonna give us
Speaker 1: a scouting report it when we come right back. This
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Speaker 1: Back to the Break Welcome back. It's the second segment
Speaker 1: of the Break Life from the s WBC mortgage studios
Speaker 1: at the Star were talking cowboys and Giants. Dave, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go scouting report on the Giants offense. They suck. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on, beautiful. I'm sad that headbad music under it.
Speaker 1: That would have been to give us another one more time,
Speaker 1: take two. They suck because you didn't set him upon whatever,
Speaker 1: you didn't set him up. Now we're just trouble. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: get too comfortable. Let's I mean, obviously it's here we
Speaker 1: go amber, it's the NFC, It's the NFC East. Like
Speaker 1: the least surprising thing ever would be if these guys
Speaker 1: came out with their you know, hair on fire and
Speaker 1: beat the cowboys like that just wouldn't surprise me. But
Speaker 1: this is just I Actually, while I was doing research
Speaker 1: for this, I saw a tweet from somebody up Giants
Speaker 1: way that Jerry Reese who just got fired as the
Speaker 1: general manager from two thousand, like ten to twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: which you know, the guys you draft in that range
Speaker 1: should probably like make up the bedrock of your team.
Speaker 1: You know, you're thinking Travis Frederick, Shawn Lee, des Bryant,
Speaker 1: those types of guys. Tyrn Smith, there's like two two
Speaker 1: of his draft picks from that ranger still on the team.
Speaker 1: Like they just just haven't draft. They had a bad run.
Speaker 1: They really did, had a really bad run, and they've
Speaker 1: had really bad luck with injuries. To your point, Dwayne
Speaker 1: Harris is on IR, Odell Beckham is on IR, Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall is on IR, weston Richberg, they're starting centers on IR. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fourteen guys on IR right there. They have so many
Speaker 1: guys on IR, I are yeah, or just the injury room. No,
Speaker 1: I think they got fourteen fourteen guys on IR. These
Speaker 1: these This is my printer friendly depth chart. If you're
Speaker 1: not watching, it's I always print out the other team's
Speaker 1: depth chart. It goes to two pages because there's so
Speaker 1: many guys on IR. Yeah. Um djer quality Art Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, he played some guard. Um. So meanwhile, the
Speaker 1: guys that are there also aren't great. Eric Flowers I
Speaker 1: think he is the whipping well, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about Chaz Green eric Flowers. That's the difference is that
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers was draft top ten, top fifteen. They got
Speaker 1: John Jerry just journeyman free agent playing left guard. They
Speaker 1: got Brett Jones, who's like their third option playing center.
Speaker 1: My favorite one. This I from Alabama. I'm pretty sure. No,
Speaker 1: that was Barrett Jones. Sorry, everyone loved that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know if he's in
Speaker 1: the league. Barrett Jones, he was out center. He was
Speaker 1: like an All American at Alabama when they were winning.
Speaker 1: I mean they still are, but he won, wasn't he
Speaker 1: The guy had some issues off the field, definitely not.
Speaker 1: He was like a boy scout. Okay, it doesn't matter. Um.
Speaker 1: Justin Pugh, who's actually one of Jerry Reese's like few
Speaker 1: good draft picks from recent years. He's been hurt. He's
Speaker 1: missed the last two games. Chad Wheeler. I want this
Speaker 1: guy playing on Sunday because he's bad. He's had to
Speaker 1: go style, he's had to go against Khalil Mack and
Speaker 1: Ryan Carrigan in the last two weeks, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: know what to do with himself. Like, so you're saying
Speaker 1: to Marcus, Marcus Lawrence will have five sacks if this
Speaker 1: guy's plays like That's what I mean. He just isn't good.
Speaker 1: So both their tackles are bad. So what I'm well,
Speaker 1: when I'm keeping an eye on Justin Pugh, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the injury report this week. I don't know
Speaker 1: off the top of my head what his injury is,
Speaker 1: but I'm no offense to him. I don't want him
Speaker 1: to play because I think that would be big for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Um, you got Red Ellison and Evan Green
Speaker 1: Ingram playing tight end. Ingram is he's this dynamic receiver.
Speaker 1: He looks like he's going to be a really good players.
Speaker 1: Missies would drop balls this year in certain stretches as well, though,
Speaker 1: But I would argue that he's the only guy that
Speaker 1: they can throw the ball too. A ton of getting
Speaker 1: like he's dropping him because they're throwing him so many,
Speaker 1: like he's tired. He's a good player. Yeah, red Ellison's
Speaker 1: they're blocking tight end. To answer Nick's question, Sterling Shepherd
Speaker 1: plays mainly in the slot. They're outside receivers are Roger
Speaker 1: Lewis and Tavarus King, which Mars Gang he's pun of right,
Speaker 1: that's no Marquette Um. Roger Lewis was like in a
Speaker 1: roster battle. I remember, like you know, I keep an
Speaker 1: eye on the NFC teams during the during training camp,
Speaker 1: like he barely made the team and now he's one
Speaker 1: of their starts, a practice squad guy that pushed up
Speaker 1: or was not. He was just like he was like
Speaker 1: in the mix that last fifth receivers. So you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, um, I mean Beckham and Marshall have
Speaker 1: been on I ar since like September. If you take
Speaker 1: so Odell Beckham had three touchdowns I want to say,
Speaker 1: in like five games or however many games he wound
Speaker 1: up playing. So how um, how many receiving touchdowns do
Speaker 1: you think that active Giants wide receivers have right now?
Speaker 1: Two four, Tavarus King has one, Shepherd has three. That's it,
Speaker 1: Like there's just not a lot ingram leads. Was it
Speaker 1: all rookies in with six touchdowns? I believe so? I
Speaker 1: mean I think that that's receiving yards and and this
Speaker 1: is just all rookie tight ends. Yeah. Not this week.
Speaker 1: It looks it looks like it was a really good pick.
Speaker 1: My argument to that would be like maybe maybe you'd
Speaker 1: be better off overall and not fired right now if
Speaker 1: they'd done what everybody in the league said they should
Speaker 1: do and drafted a tackle instead of a tight end.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, just an idea. Maybe Eric
Speaker 1: Flowers could be playing on the right side, and you
Speaker 1: could have Ryan Ramchick, who is killing it for the
Speaker 1: Saints right now. Maybe he could be your left tackle.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Um Orleans, Darkwa, Shane Vereen kind of
Speaker 1: your scat. I mean, they're right, I cannot you see
Speaker 1: why they have to win. I will can't lose. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna steal this. I'm gonna steal this talking point from broadest.
Speaker 1: But Wayne Gallman is a guy that I'm interested in.
Speaker 1: Oh are you? I thought he got I thought he
Speaker 1: was getting more playing time and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he just kind of fell off the map. He's
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick like that. He gets on the
Speaker 1: field sometimes. But they love Darkwa, and I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's a bad player, but i'd rather I'm
Speaker 1: always I always want to see what the rookie can do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Eli Manning's back this week, which again he's Eli Manning.
Speaker 1: I know that definitely not writing him off, but like
Speaker 1: he's having a bad year. There their twenty second in
Speaker 1: passing offense, They're thirty first in scoring offense fifteen point
Speaker 1: eight points per game, fifteen point eight points per game,
Speaker 1: and Eli has fourteen touchdowns and seven interceptions on the year.
Speaker 1: I looked up, so I went back and watched the
Speaker 1: Redskins game on Thanksgiving because I wanted to see a
Speaker 1: game with Eli. I don't really care about watching Geno
Speaker 1: Smith play. Nobody else did either. Here are their possessions
Speaker 1: by play against the Redskins. Three plays, five plays, three plays,
Speaker 1: five plays, sixteen plays, three plays, four plays, three plays,
Speaker 1: three plays, three plays, four plays, three plays quick strike
Speaker 1: offense right there. Yeah, absolutely, This sixteen play drive ended
Speaker 1: in a field goal. So here many yards they get
Speaker 1: on that drive? It was like seventy something, okay, And
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I'm going through the breakdown and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: where's the touchdown? They finished with ten points. It was
Speaker 1: a pick six by Genorris Jans. It's I mean, again,
Speaker 1: it's the NFL. It's a division rivalry, but like these
Speaker 1: not only are they bad, but they're like it's like
Speaker 1: they're leading. It's the Redskins. Plus they're just not good
Speaker 1: like they I mean, they're not good. None of their
Speaker 1: players are there and they're good. They're players that are
Speaker 1: there aren't having great years. The difference between them and
Speaker 1: the Redskins is they've lost a ton of players at
Speaker 1: one position, as well as their overall best player like
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. In the same way that that this team
Speaker 1: finds it hard offensively to move the ball without Zeke,
Speaker 1: that team would find it extremely hard to move the ball.
Speaker 1: You don't think the Redskins have lost players at one position,
Speaker 1: all of them. I mean, yeah, well offensive, they're offensive line,
Speaker 1: I mean, but but they haven't lost I don't think
Speaker 1: they've lost players that are like game change. I don't
Speaker 1: think they've lost players that change the complexion of their teams.
Speaker 1: Like the best offensive player they lost was Chris Thompson
Speaker 1: and that happened two weeks ago. I think it is so,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a little bit different. I
Speaker 1: think they when they're off, when their receivers got just
Speaker 1: decimated in the first week two weeks right, I think
Speaker 1: it was the first week or second week of Marshall
Speaker 1: and Beckham have been gone since September right, and they
Speaker 1: both went out the same game. Correct, I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure they both went out the same game.
Speaker 1: Dwayne Harris may have been Yeah, Dwayne Harris may have
Speaker 1: been out in the same game as well. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so they got depleted early and it was, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the best player on their team. Ed Egan still on
Speaker 1: their team. That's a good question. He's not on the
Speaker 1: too deep Egan. I know it's been a long time
Speaker 1: since the first game of the season, but ye, consider
Speaker 1: looking at all the guys are injured, how different is
Speaker 1: this team to the one they had at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season. Um, it's I mean, that's a good question,
Speaker 1: and honestly, like skill position wise at least a little.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had Marshall, they didn't have Beckham for
Speaker 1: that game, right, all the all the running backs are
Speaker 1: still the same, quarterbacks the same And honestly, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say to Nick's point, Yeah, Justin Pugh has been
Speaker 1: hurt and they've had some problems at center, but four
Speaker 1: fifths of their like first day offensive line is in play.
Speaker 1: If Pew plays, it'll be four or the five that
Speaker 1: are so well. The Cowboys are kount of facing The
Speaker 1: one big exception, and we'll talk about this tomorrow is
Speaker 1: Genors Jenkins, who had if memory starts correct, he was
Speaker 1: one that was guarding Diz in that game, and traditionally
Speaker 1: Diz hasn't had great performances against Genors Jenkins. So that,
Speaker 1: to me is probably the biggest difference between the Cowboys offensively.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the Giants stand Gions now. Offensively, it's not
Speaker 1: that different there. I mean, well, they're just they're so
Speaker 1: depleted at wide receiver. Yeah. I mean even in Week
Speaker 1: one they still had Brandon Marshall, who but they didn't
Speaker 1: have Beckham and he didn't do much that game, did
Speaker 1: he Marshall? No, he didn't do anything. Yeah, they scored
Speaker 1: three points, right. I think his first catch came with
Speaker 1: like a minute and a half left in the game.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like third quarter, it was. It
Speaker 1: was that what he ended up with just one one
Speaker 1: two catches one or two catches for like fifteen yards.
Speaker 1: I like it was a story that Cheeto actually played
Speaker 1: him really really well. And then they got hurt. You know,
Speaker 1: got hurt. Um They're not that different. They've lost, but
Speaker 1: I mean they just have they have there's just No,
Speaker 1: there's nobody here that like gets your heart racing in
Speaker 1: terms of like they gotta watch that they have a
Speaker 1: new coach. Yeah, And I was gonna say, like, do
Speaker 1: you think how much do you think dat affects things?
Speaker 1: Because you're you're going to see something different, because usually
Speaker 1: when a new coach comes in, even if it's just
Speaker 1: just a renewed kind of all right, let's just go
Speaker 1: and play, it'll be it's something changes. And when things
Speaker 1: change sometimes that can create it'll be an interesting crowd.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think because they're they're loyal
Speaker 1: to ELI, I think you'll see a ton of giant
Speaker 1: number ten jerseys. And you know, I think that they
Speaker 1: wanted macadoo gone for a while. So you know, this
Speaker 1: guy comes back in its nulo. He's been their DC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's in the past. He's been a hit coach in
Speaker 1: the past. Yeah, I mean he had their d and yeah,
Speaker 1: so he they like him, and you know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: their defense hasn't been that great either, but I mean
Speaker 1: there's something to be said for the Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: bet they'll be loose and liberated and yeah, liberated. Maybe
Speaker 1: they like don't personally hate McAdoo. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: like just Louise, yeah, I mean they'll they'll probably be
Speaker 1: up for this. But even at six and se you know,
Speaker 1: Like I have joked around with Nick all week leading
Speaker 1: up to the Chargers game. He's like, the Chargers are
Speaker 1: four and six, and I'm like, we're four and five.
Speaker 1: We're five and five. Like, let's not talk about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys like they're great. But wait, wait, wait I that
Speaker 1: was my retort to this, Philip Rivers is the greatest
Speaker 1: thing I know, but ad retort because they are better
Speaker 1: than that. But I was like, botha ingram, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they get beat I mean somebody's beating them. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: some I got my retort to your retorts that somebody's
Speaker 1: beating the Cowboys with regularity as well. Um, but even
Speaker 1: at six and six, significantly better roster than theirs, I
Speaker 1: think it should be. So that's that's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: You're not buying this, are you? No? Like you? I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a pessimist or anything or
Speaker 1: be negative. I'm not. But I'm a realist. No, I'm
Speaker 1: a dreamer. I don't know it all over the place.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, here's the thing. I really think
Speaker 1: that the Cowboy should definitely win this game. But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be too deceived on what the Giants have been
Speaker 1: doing this season. I mean right now, Yes, it could
Speaker 1: have go with a new coach, it could be it
Speaker 1: could go either way. It could either go really bad
Speaker 1: how it's been going for them, or it could get
Speaker 1: really good. I mean, with the whole thing that happened
Speaker 1: with Eli this whole week, this past week, I think
Speaker 1: that the reaction around the locker locker room for him
Speaker 1: his teammates, that creates us special bond and a different
Speaker 1: energy that I think it could really change this whole
Speaker 1: thing for this specific game. They could go in feeling completed.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter how bad you've been. Sometimes even
Speaker 1: bad play, I mean something that's not hasn't been good.
Speaker 1: Even if you're not good, you're gonna have a good
Speaker 1: game once in a while. And so this could be
Speaker 1: the time and the Cowboys again. Going back to the
Speaker 1: first of the first game of the season. Um, I
Speaker 1: remember I said that I the Cowboys didn't play well
Speaker 1: against them. They did win, and everyone was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we bait the Giants. Okay, calm down, like it. Look
Speaker 1: at the game, they weren't that great. They were and
Speaker 1: said it wasn't that great. I still like, even knowing
Speaker 1: everything I know now, you dominate a division opponent, let
Speaker 1: them and only allow three points. Like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: dog on you for how you played. No, it wasn't
Speaker 1: the prettiest game of the year. Well, yeah, they won,
Speaker 1: they beat them, they beat them decisively. What if if
Speaker 1: we after Week two the Broncos Cowboys game, and then
Speaker 1: after the after the game, someone says, one of these
Speaker 1: teams is six and six, one of these teams just
Speaker 1: three and nine. After what the Broncos just did to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, You're like, damn, I'm only gonna win two
Speaker 1: more games. Huh. I'm just saying, I mean three and nine.
Speaker 1: They've lost like eight in a row or something like that.
Speaker 1: What's going on with them? I don't know how they
Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys the way they did with the team
Speaker 1: that they got, But that's knocked the head off of
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, that's what I mean. Amber's right though,
Speaker 1: and that you know, I think back to last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about like the Browns game yesterday, and you're like,
Speaker 1: if you're a good team, should be able to beat
Speaker 1: a bad team on the road. Like, they're not a
Speaker 1: good team. The Cowboys are not a good team. They're
Speaker 1: a mediocre team. They're exactly what their record says they are.
Speaker 1: So I mean, they're a good team with that, with
Speaker 1: that in your hand right there. But when you put
Speaker 1: him down, him right, so, let's put them This is
Speaker 1: radio sounds kind of weird. I'm it's holding a little Yeah,
Speaker 1: bobblehead or bobbleheads all that. That race has gone because
Speaker 1: you ripped it off. Are they had good team with him? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: I think they're good a good team. Yes, they're a
Speaker 1: good football team. They're not they're better than mediocre. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're good. They're a good football team
Speaker 1: with him. They were five and three when they had him,
Speaker 1: And that's a good football team in today's NFL. That's
Speaker 1: not good. That's gonna get you. That's that's probably gonna
Speaker 1: get you somewhere around ten and six, eleven and five,
Speaker 1: five and three, get you to ten and six. I
Speaker 1: thought they did some good things. Now you're just hitting buttons.
Speaker 1: He's a good football player, Okay, just hit them all.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good football team. In today's NFL.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good football team. Yeah, I wish
Speaker 1: we think you know that they were playing well, they
Speaker 1: were playing, they were on a roll against eat the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Look at that. Yeah, Chiefs who have lost six to
Speaker 1: their last seven and the one in ten forty nine
Speaker 1: or yeah, but do you think they would have You
Speaker 1: think they would have beat Do you think they would
Speaker 1: have beat the San Diego Chargers if they had Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott Calkins, Probably maybe they would have. I think they
Speaker 1: would have gone two and one and those three. Okay,
Speaker 1: So so if they would have gone two and one,
Speaker 1: then to me three that means you're a good team
Speaker 1: with Ezekiel Elliott And you're probably why aren't we arguing there?
Speaker 1: Because you made the point, is it a good enough
Speaker 1: team to win the Super Bowl? I don't know that?
Speaker 1: And that the reason why I don't know. The reason why,
Speaker 1: the reason why I don't think anybody can say that
Speaker 1: is because what you know about the NFL is what
Speaker 1: you see during that time of the year really has
Speaker 1: no bearing on what you're gonna see in the postseason
Speaker 1: and who's gonna win the Super Bowl. We've seen that
Speaker 1: play out numerous times where team gets in as fifth
Speaker 1: or succeed as a wild card and ends up in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and wins. SOT who you're matter, No,
Speaker 1: it's seriously, you don't know right now, No one knows.
Speaker 1: Homer mcboss man over here, No one knows. No one
Speaker 1: really knows. All right, let's take our final break. We'll
Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna get some questions. Calls two one
Speaker 1: four eighty seven to twenty one two again two one
Speaker 1: eight seven two twenty one oh two, and we'll take questions.
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Speaker 1: three of trading camp. You know already, how do you
Speaker 1: run out of underwear on day three? I just think
Speaker 1: it was probably a stack that just didn't get put
Speaker 1: in the suitcase, right. I doubt it, just like I
Speaker 1: doubt it. It's okay, I doubt it, Derek, if you're
Speaker 1: thinking about getting me anything for the holidays, not you've
Speaker 1: bought me stuff before you bought me. You bought me
Speaker 1: a really nice LSU sweatshirt one time. That's true, you
Speaker 1: did that. Do you do you think you really have
Speaker 1: been good enough this year for me to buy you anything? Yes?
Speaker 1: Maybe good in what sense? It was nominated for two
Speaker 1: any sense? Just give me a sense. I'm gonna dominated
Speaker 1: for two for two Emmys. I do like six different jobs.
Speaker 1: You didn't win, and like other people only winning the
Speaker 1: showing only winners, only winners, because presence that's what my
Speaker 1: dad's too. Well, my parents never used to get not
Speaker 1: good enough just to get nominated. You got, Amber's gonna
Speaker 1: get the LSU sweatshirt. Kent's gonna get purple. No hate purple.
Speaker 1: Why do you hate purple? It's a long story, Love purple,
Speaker 1: live gold. Amber. I grew up in a very political
Speaker 1: family in the Miniican Republic, and the opposing party was okay,
Speaker 1: and our flag was white. So it was just like
Speaker 1: that wasn't that long at all. Everybody gets at it, yeah, summarized.
Speaker 1: It didn't a the word deceived that she said, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be deceived by this team or this
Speaker 1: or the Giants team. That's how they get you that.
Speaker 1: You just remember everybody all excided with the Cowboys beat
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Well, the Giants also beat the Chiefs. It
Speaker 1: was an uglier game, but they did beat them in
Speaker 1: New York. I wouldn't say, I'm you're not going to
Speaker 1: be deceived by the Giants. You're deceived by the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: The Giants are bad. They are who they are. They're
Speaker 1: objectively bad. Are you deceived by the Cowboys looking as
Speaker 1: good as they did last week? Or do you think
Speaker 1: they can do that again? That's the issue here. They're
Speaker 1: the ones that have been up and down. Giants have
Speaker 1: been just down. You know who they are? Ready? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: they did beat the Chiefs without scoring a touchdown? Yeah right, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you skipped over asking us what one thing
Speaker 1: we were excited to think of one? Not really? I mean, yeah, Ingraham,
Speaker 1: we'll do some things and Eli last week ain't got
Speaker 1: him down. Let's see how Sterling Shepherd does with I mean,
Speaker 1: we were talking about cornerbacks at the top of the show.
Speaker 1: Be interesting to see how he does with you know,
Speaker 1: Scandrick's not there, and they're gonna be asking somebody that
Speaker 1: they weren't previously asking to do that job. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so we didn't have a good well, the Cowboys didn't
Speaker 1: have it for a good first half of the game
Speaker 1: last week against the Redskins. Do you guys feel that, Yeah, offense,
Speaker 1: not defense obviously, but their offense. So you guys feel
Speaker 1: that offensively they're gonna be able to keep this going.
Speaker 1: And now they were able to get into rhythm after
Speaker 1: that second half. No, I hope Garrett doesn't either, because
Speaker 1: when he wins the toss, when when Witten says tales
Speaker 1: and the call is tales, we defer. That's what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. That's my crazy prediction already, that they're going
Speaker 1: to defer. What do you think that is crazy? I'll
Speaker 1: have to see it to believe it. But at this point,
Speaker 1: are you are you just telling your offense okay, because
Speaker 1: he's always said it, right, we believe we're gonna get
Speaker 1: the ball, we're gonna go score. Are you not telling him?
Speaker 1: I don't believe we're gonna go score. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could be saying I'm tired of seeing teams score at
Speaker 1: the end of the half and at the first of
Speaker 1: the second half, tired of seeing that happen. Redskins didn't
Speaker 1: do that though. The Redskins score at the end of
Speaker 1: the half, but I don't believe they came back and
Speaker 1: scored right away, no eye everybody else has. That was
Speaker 1: actually that was big, Like they gotta stop coming right
Speaker 1: out of half. I was like, hey, okay, that that
Speaker 1: was a difference from the three previous games where Atlanta,
Speaker 1: Philly and the Chargers went down the field and scored,
Speaker 1: and most of them had scored right before the half
Speaker 1: as well. That's the and you know, all credit to them.
Speaker 1: They won by twenty four points, but I don't like
Speaker 1: the offense didn't get its mojo back, like they threw
Speaker 1: for one hundred and two yards and Alfred Morris was
Speaker 1: a running game. And well even that though, I felt
Speaker 1: like it really came on in this It was a
Speaker 1: classic case of wearing them down. Right. It's not like
Speaker 1: it not, It's not like it was just punching on
Speaker 1: all cylinders from the get. You just keep doing it
Speaker 1: and eventually they wear it down. That though, and I
Speaker 1: don't think that's a bad thing. I think that's and
Speaker 1: that was gonna be The way I answered that question
Speaker 1: from Amber is no, I don't think they come out
Speaker 1: and they're just lighting it up in the first half.
Speaker 1: But if they play the way that they played last week,
Speaker 1: I think there there. I think what they were trying
Speaker 1: to do last week was as the game kept going,
Speaker 1: they were gonna stay committed to the running game. And
Speaker 1: even in the second half, it seemed like they doubled
Speaker 1: down on the running game and that's when you started
Speaker 1: to see those three yard runs turned into five yard
Speaker 1: rounds and six yard runs. It's because he kept pounding
Speaker 1: at him. So I expect maybe to see the same
Speaker 1: thing until Ze comes and maybe there's been some little
Speaker 1: spark there with Dez. Dez did make a play, went
Speaker 1: up and you know, showed the things that he can do.
Speaker 1: He can go up and get and catch the football,
Speaker 1: and then the second time he had to be interfered
Speaker 1: with or he's probably gonna do it again, So maybe
Speaker 1: they can get some kind of rhythm there. You know,
Speaker 1: this crew that they're gonna face, I know it's been
Speaker 1: well documented. The crew that did the Pittsburgh Cincinnati game
Speaker 1: that called seventy three flags, they're gonna do this game.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do that and they call a lot of penalties.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's good or bad, but
Speaker 1: I guess I just think the conditions that set the
Speaker 1: offense up to for favorable results last week were all
Speaker 1: brought about by fantastic special teams in defensive play, like
Speaker 1: are you in position to pound the rock like that?
Speaker 1: If Ryan Switzer doesn't put you up by ten points
Speaker 1: I mean, or if you don't get an interception off
Speaker 1: of dropped probably touchdown by Jamison Crowder. I mean, he
Speaker 1: probably takes that to the one, if not into the
Speaker 1: end zone, if he doesn't let it bounce off his hands.
Speaker 1: And so now you're talking about it, I think it
Speaker 1: would have been a tie game instead of the defense
Speaker 1: getting away from that with no points. And I'm not
Speaker 1: taking that credit away from them, like they did it.
Speaker 1: They deserve all the credit in the world. But can
Speaker 1: you count on them to be plus four and turnover
Speaker 1: differential and score special teams touchdown because I think that's
Speaker 1: what ultimately led to the offense having the success it did.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're just starting from scratch zero zero,
Speaker 1: or you know, if you're down seven nothing, like is
Speaker 1: it going to be the same, and I'm not convinced
Speaker 1: based on what we saw that it will. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love to see them defer, especially with Sean
Speaker 1: Lee back, maybe lean on the defense a little bit
Speaker 1: more to help put them in favorable positions. I know
Speaker 1: that sounds weird, but but this is a good week
Speaker 1: to do it. Like that offense is struggling, and yes,
Speaker 1: Jazz struggled all year, even at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1: If this defense should be able, if there's an offense
Speaker 1: that you should be able to get off the field,
Speaker 1: it's this one. Yeah, especially with Sean Lee. But do
Speaker 1: you think the line is on this game? Do you
Speaker 1: know if I had guess, like Cowboys minus three, three
Speaker 1: and a half, I would say Cowboys minus five, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. What four? Not us four? Okay, yep,
Speaker 1: guys are all over it. That sounds about right. And
Speaker 1: on the road, it's a pretty decent, pretty decent line
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, So that that says there a touchdown favorite, right, really,
Speaker 1: but you get three points for home field, so yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds about right. Yeah, all right, let's get a
Speaker 1: phone call. We got a call from Rob in Vegas. Rob,
Speaker 1: what up? Hey, guys, Hey, the lines four and a half.
Speaker 1: Right now, Oh you would know, yeah, right, you know
Speaker 1: we're visiting Scandric. I had enough for Scandric. He for
Speaker 1: some reason, he carries himself like Dion. Guy has eight
Speaker 1: interceptions in one hundred and thirty games. I think it's
Speaker 1: time to move on from him. I think he's just average,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't tackle, and I think he'll be a
Speaker 1: progress stopper for somebody else. I think it's time where
Speaker 1: he had enough for him. I have one thing I
Speaker 1: would like to see this team stop doing. In the draft.
Speaker 1: They got a bad habit. They loved the draft guys
Speaker 1: who are good at multiple positions. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: Get me a guy who's great at one position. You know,
Speaker 1: I think that hurt Byron Jones. Was he a safety,
Speaker 1: was a corner. He's not a safety. He's not physically
Speaker 1: built for a safety. I think if they would have
Speaker 1: kept him at corner, I think maybe he could have
Speaker 1: been something. Now I think I agree with you guys.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be gone. Keep Cheeto at corner. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe I'm blind. You know, he played one game,
Speaker 1: but keep him there. Let's see what happens. He's built
Speaker 1: for it. And it looks like a pretty stout guy.
Speaker 1: My question is who's quicker, Anthony Brown or Xavier Woods?
Speaker 1: Because that's who I would play at the slot. These
Speaker 1: crossing routes have been killing us all year, and to me,
Speaker 1: pick one, where is the quicker one? That's who I
Speaker 1: want to play the slot? All right, thank you? I
Speaker 1: think that's that's a really good point. It's and it's
Speaker 1: I think he articulated it. I've been thinking something along
Speaker 1: those lines, but I didn't know how to articulate it.
Speaker 1: Which is I think I think that Xavier Woods probably
Speaker 1: has better football instincts right now, or at least he
Speaker 1: seems like he does based on what we've seen from him.
Speaker 1: But Anthony Brown just has the pure skill set to
Speaker 1: play a position like that, and he's quick and really
Speaker 1: fast like Xavier Woods. I mean, he's an NFL player,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have that. He doesn't look like he
Speaker 1: has that just next level type of speed or quickness
Speaker 1: that you expect to see from somebody like a slot corner,
Speaker 1: which is why I think I lean more toward Brown
Speaker 1: playing there. But he's he's got some kind of skills though.
Speaker 1: An the ball, He's got that knack he definitely does.
Speaker 1: He's got instincts, he's got a knack for being around
Speaker 1: the ball, and that's really important, but maybe more so
Speaker 1: at safety or I don't. I don't know. I I
Speaker 1: agree with him in the sense that I just see
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods like tray behind receivers on crossing rounds. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna address the other part. I think when it comes
Speaker 1: to drafting versatility, I think you can have too much.
Speaker 1: And I agree with the call that they've they've got
Speaker 1: some of that. That's good, especially in the later rounds
Speaker 1: if you have somebody with some versatility that like that
Speaker 1: because that's how he can maybe make the team. But
Speaker 1: when you're talking about higher end players first and second round,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I want to
Speaker 1: jack of all trades because that guy isn't is they
Speaker 1: say a master of none And let's see, if we're
Speaker 1: gonna pick in the first, second, maybe third round, give
Speaker 1: me a guy that's mastered a certain position. So I
Speaker 1: agree with that part of the call, and I think
Speaker 1: it has hurt Byron Jones, and I think it's hurt
Speaker 1: some other I think it's probably hurt Chaz Green. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think the guard and tackle and back and forth
Speaker 1: a little bit just to kind of get him on
Speaker 1: the field. That's it's a slippery slope. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this question. Is that also maybe a function of
Speaker 1: the fact that these guys aren't great enough at one
Speaker 1: thing that they have to look at them at multiple
Speaker 1: positions in order to justify. So it's not it's not
Speaker 1: even just a situation where they're drafting a guy and saying, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna move them around. No, as much it is
Speaker 1: you put him in one spot and you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's all right, Let's look at him over here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's all right. And that's just the function of a guy. No,
Speaker 1: it's not the Cowboys fault necessarily. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: natural to do that, especially when you get to game
Speaker 1: day and you only can dress forty six guys and
Speaker 1: if you have four corners, four safeties, and then you
Speaker 1: have the guy that can do both, you basically have
Speaker 1: ten guys with only nine players. You have ten positions
Speaker 1: with nine players because you have you know, and that's
Speaker 1: what Looney is. Looney is a guard center. So that
Speaker 1: that's why they can dress seven line into a game.
Speaker 1: Just I get the versatility. It's great, But when you're
Speaker 1: drafting high like that, I don't I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want to take a guy in the number twenty
Speaker 1: second overall or whatever they're gonna pick that can do
Speaker 1: a little bit of this and that. Just do one thing.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Twenty two. Huh. So they got
Speaker 1: him making the playoff? Yeah, they're in the place. Cool, No,
Speaker 1: they're seventeen. They traded down and picked up down the fourth.
Speaker 1: Got it? All right, let's get let's get one more
Speaker 1: question from Twitter before we end the show. Do you
Speaker 1: guys have a feeling that yes, you do? That could
Speaker 1: be gas huh that feeling? It could be I am
Speaker 1: spelling something weird, am or asking the question? Get me
Speaker 1: David is stop? Sorry? I got my officials on your head. Well, like,
Speaker 1: how would be successful in the passing game against the
Speaker 1: Giants this upcoming game? In the passing game? Yeah? No
Speaker 1: running game in the past. Well, Jenkins isn't planned. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, what weather look like? What are what
Speaker 1: are we called? What are we calling? What are we
Speaker 1: calling successful? What are what what's your what's your threshold
Speaker 1: for successful over Oh that's a good point because last
Speaker 1: week you wouldn't call that successful, would you know? This quarterback?
Speaker 1: I mean, would you would you call what you said?
Speaker 1: Dez looked better, right, he had some So would you
Speaker 1: call it? Would you say that's a successful day for
Speaker 1: dis Yeah, yes, but over I mean fifty percent one
Speaker 1: hundred and two yards, I don't know. But but then
Speaker 1: go back to week three. I think Dak completes like
Speaker 1: eighteen of twenty three, only one hundred and seventy six yards,
Speaker 1: but he had a touchdown in there, maybe two I
Speaker 1: don't remember off the top of my head, But like
Speaker 1: I would call that a successful day. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to see him get back to being more efficient. Let's
Speaker 1: just say limited mistakes. Yes, I'm gonna say, check the ball.
Speaker 1: I could see this being kind of like one of
Speaker 1: those like, ah, it didn't look great, but it got
Speaker 1: the job done. It's it's gonna be cold. I think
Speaker 1: I heard there's at least a little bit of chance
Speaker 1: of snow. There was a chance of snow earlier in
Speaker 1: the week. I think now it's gone. It ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be a great forty and high high forty low twenty two.
Speaker 1: It says Claude was a little bit of sun. No snow.
Speaker 1: I don't trust that they're gonna you're gonna see favorable
Speaker 1: passing conditions in New York in December, windy, cold, and
Speaker 1: so I would imagine there's gonna be a fair amount
Speaker 1: of incompletions and a low numbers. But that's not that's
Speaker 1: not good point. That is a good point. Give me,
Speaker 1: give me fifteen for twenty good Yeah, fresh around shocky well,
Speaker 1: also us bad weather for even if you gotta win.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's bad weather for throwing. And it
Speaker 1: gets overblown like yeah, I's like if you have a
Speaker 1: great quarterback. And I'm not saying Dad's bad, but like
Speaker 1: the way that they play offense, the type of season
Speaker 1: he's had, I don't see him slinging away for three
Speaker 1: hundred yards and condill's. But that's because that's not what
Speaker 1: they do, right, that's not about the weather. We're just
Speaker 1: giving the excuse before half. Keep me, help me keep balanced,
Speaker 1: you know, like if you're gonna run, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: run for sixty, give me give me like one sixty
Speaker 1: and no turnovers, and I would call that a success.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I would call that a success. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to get it. I want to see his
Speaker 1: completion percentage get back up into the load of mid
Speaker 1: sixties and no turnovers and a touchdown or two. And
Speaker 1: to me, that's a good day. That's a really good day.
Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you join us back tomorrow. We'll
Speaker 1: give you a scattering report on the Giants defense, um,
Speaker 1: and then we'll give you guys, so we'll start talking
Speaker 1: about more on the game Cowboys versus Giants coming up
Speaker 1: Sunday at noon. Until then for Nick even, Dave Hellman, Andregarcia.
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