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Speaker 1: April twenty third at Shakerton's from five to seven. So

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Speaker 1: make plans for that, boys. Today I want to get

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Speaker 1: into best case scenario for fifty eight and ninety. People

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Speaker 1: are asking me about two players guys you would like

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Speaker 1: to have at fifty eight. What is your ideal when

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Speaker 1: you walk out a day too, assuming that after what

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones said to us yesterday, there

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Speaker 1: will not be any trading up into the first round

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Speaker 1: of this draft. Now again, you know Jerry is one

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Speaker 1: of those guys that he hates to sit there without

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Speaker 1: a first round pick, and but maybe they see some

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Speaker 1: value they would go up and get a guy. But

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Speaker 1: I want to go through with you, guys, your two

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Speaker 1: ideal players at fifty eight and ninety after that first

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Speaker 1: after excuse me, the Friday afternoon to our nighttime drafting

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Speaker 1: there and David Hellman, I will start with you on

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Speaker 1: this one, Okay, I want you to tell me your

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Speaker 1: ideal players for those two spots. All right, Oh give

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Speaker 1: me a reason why. Well, I want to walk you

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Speaker 1: through my thought process. I told you upstairs I was

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Speaker 1: going to cheat a little bit. I wrote. I wrote

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Speaker 1: a couple of names just kind of get get the thought.

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Speaker 1: Juice is flowing yere. But I'm looking I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: this board a lot. You know, you're picking fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: You're like seven spots from the end of the second round.

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that a lot of the guys I

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Speaker 1: looking for was I'm I'm looking to mitigate that. I guess.

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Speaker 1: So the two names, you know, we can throw out

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Speaker 1: just not convinced the values there in that range. Like,

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Speaker 1: running back at fifty eight At that point in time,

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Speaker 1: You guys know, my guy Deebo Samuel. Okay, I would

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Speaker 1: Dame Brugler's board, He's got Gardner Johnson at one hundred

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Speaker 1: but we know they love LJ. Collier absolutely is a

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Speaker 1: And you can't force it, you know, like if the

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Speaker 1: early for Tristan Hill. See, this is where it would

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Speaker 1: have to draft him at fifty eighth. This is where

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Speaker 1: gonna go through this board Danes one hundred and my

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Speaker 1: because there's guys he has higher than me, and then

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Speaker 1: it's vice versa. Really there, But okay, if you think

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Speaker 1: and I'm a little bit higher on Hill than you are,

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Speaker 1: but a higher up the board third round player. Okay,

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Speaker 1: is that too rich thin? At fifty eight? You just

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Speaker 1: said it. I think. I mean it's you got to

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Speaker 1: have to do it. You don't have to go there.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I was talking about. If an LJ.

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Speaker 1: Collier and a Tristan Hill are there, right, sure you

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Speaker 1: you can go with a better player. Yeah, at a

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Speaker 1: position that's still I don't. I don't. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's your rallying cry from the day I met you

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Speaker 1: is don't window dress your board. Don't window dress your board.

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Speaker 1: I would rather draft like a badass receiver at fifty

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Speaker 1: eight than force a defensive tackle just because I feel

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Speaker 1: like I need one. Yeah, shows me, Okay, let me.

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Speaker 1: It's something real quick of the receiver or the running back.

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Speaker 1: Which way you go in there? Me? Yeah? Receiver, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question, running backs not even an option, not an

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Speaker 1: option for you, okay, for you, for me, not for

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Speaker 1: the people that are actually gonna make the phone call. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: that's true. Okay, So we we we feel like though

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Speaker 1: that we calling a Hill pick at fifty eight too rich,

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Speaker 1: or were calling it at a necessity a necessity because

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Speaker 1: we want a defensive tackle other than maybe the defensive ent.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be too rich. But like would

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Speaker 1: it be so rich that you're just gonna piss and

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Speaker 1: moan about it, you know, right? I mean he's got

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Speaker 1: it in the third we both have in the third round.

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Speaker 1: think we could do that with Ronelle Wren not going

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Speaker 1: But if Meleek Collins doesn't come back. No, that's true. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you very much for mighty. I know you're you're you're

424
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Speaker 1: watching with us. I was leading the witness there because

425
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Speaker 1: at fifty eight I am looking at him too. If

426
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Speaker 1: I feel like that I cannot get my defensive tackle,

427
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Speaker 1: my safety, I will take that big corner. Isaiah Johnson too,

428
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Johnson. This team likes Isaiah Johnson. Yeah, okay, there

429
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Speaker 1: you go, there you go, there you go. So if

430
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Speaker 1: you think that's a that is they're gonna go to trade. Yeah, no, nobody,

431
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 1: nobody should be surprised if the cornerback is taken. No, again,

432
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 1: I think ideal you're going defensive back, a defensive line, second,

433
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: third round, any order. And again I didn't say safety

434
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: as a defensive back. So cornerback is definitely in play there.

435
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: What are people saying that? There are people talking about though?

436
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 1: Are Virginia's safety though? Is possibly being a Byron Jones

437
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: type player? Can you think he could play some corner

438
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: in this league? He played to his earlier in his career.

439
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: He played that maybe these people would start him at

440
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: corner before they would start him at safety. Yeah, possible.

441
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 1: How he just sucks some win through his teeth on

442
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: that one. I feel like we've we've talked about that.

443
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 1: What I want to when maybe this is dumb, I apologize.

444
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: Could any of those corners play safety? He might not

445
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 1: have the right frame for it. Yeah, I mean Isaiah Johnson.

446
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 1: The one thing, like the biggest worry with him is

447
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 1: he's a terrible tackler. Yeah, it's always fun. Yeah, I

448
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: think he's out. Um, I mean some of these corners

449
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: the size. You know, Well, we talked about Gardner Johnson though, well,

450
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: I think yeah, and he's he's kind of mean. He's

451
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: comfortable playing in the slot, right, he's that blended. Yeah,

452
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: like he shouldn't be a safety, shouldn't be a corner.

453
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: He's a dB. He falls under that classification. Um, I

454
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: don't know none of these safeties or corners. I really

455
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 1: love making that transition, at least talking about the top

456
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Speaker 1: one hundred guys. If if I was gonna give you're

457
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: back at ninety, give me your ninety back, you're ninety.

458
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: What running back would you take at ninety? Am I

459
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: right about Williams? Or am I? No? I think that's

460
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 1: I have a late third, early fourth on Williams. Okay,

461
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: so that's right where I was so comfortable taking. Okay,

462
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't love it, but I'd be much more

463
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: comfortable with a running back at ninety than I would

464
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: fifty eight. Okay, we got understand it. We got that,

465
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: and if it happens at fifty eight, you're gonna lose

466
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Speaker 1: your mind. Yes, we were gonna do worst case too,

467
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: but it kind of got away from us. Yeah, Well,

468
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Speaker 1: we we're okay real quick and Ken I'm sorry, give me,

469
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Speaker 1: give me your worst case. What do you got a

470
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Speaker 1: running back? Name them? Don't care running back Harris, David

471
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Speaker 1: Harris Henderson, Yeah, third round. I don't like the Georgia

472
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: kid me Coole Hardman, Okay, don't and Dawson Knox either, don't.

473
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Speaker 1: I don't you hate old miss, We know that. And

474
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: I hate super raw prospects who aren't going to get

475
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: playing time is what I hate. But we talked about Wren.

476
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't want to draft them either. Okay, yeah,

477
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: you got a couple. I mean I think maybe, like

478
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: some of the players were talking about running back, you're

479
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 1: not going to like Damian Harris. It's a round. But

480
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: some of these players were talking about ninety them reaching

481
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: for him at fifty eight, like a Renel Ranto for sure. Sure,

482
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: you know if they feel like they won't, you won't

483
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: get there at ninety. Taking one of those guys at

484
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: fifty eight, Uh, that would be to me the worst case.

485
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: And then I don't know ninety uh probably, I mean

486
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: it's hard to say, just reaching on maybe one of

487
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: these tight ends, like you know, I like Uh, I

488
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: like Cayton Smith, I like Drew Sample, But I don't

489
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: know ninety, and that'd be kind of Richie. I'm kind

490
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: of with Dane on this. If you took a wide

491
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: receiver at fifty eight, I'd lose my mind, even if

492
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: it was debug. I think they I think they've got

493
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: a good group of receivers here now they do. It'd

494
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: be like that you're using your first and second round Bick.

495
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's as contract, if he's adverse to

496
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Speaker 1: drafting or running back at fifty eight, I'm adverse to

497
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Speaker 1: drafting and running back until until they got Cobb. And

498
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Speaker 1: I know it's a year and all that, it's a year.

499
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Speaker 1: It's a bridge. Get me. They're stacked in there like

500
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: club sandwiches right now. It's a bridge. You have to

501
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: draft a guy I'm not taking. I am not I

502
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: took I took a wide receiver twenty seven, one of

503
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: the best in the league. That's what I've done. And

504
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: I and he's right about those tight ends. Did you

505
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: get the wrong tight end at ninety That could be

506
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: a problem. So none of these receivers, if somehow they

507
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: would fall to fifty eight, you'd become I don't have

508
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: a first round receiver, I know, but like none of

509
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: them early in the second round for you, you'd feel

510
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Speaker 1: comfortable with, you know, if, like I say it, somehow

511
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Speaker 1: I got Mad Cafe at twenty seven. He's my first

512
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Speaker 1: player in the second round. He's at twenty seven for

513
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: me too. Why why don't you want a ready made

514
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: inside outside receivers like Harmon? Okay, Harmon I have at

515
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: thirty one, you get it fifty one, you know, really

516
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Speaker 1: it would be great radio if they drafted Debo. Please

517
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Speaker 1: the disparity of reaction. I love the player, Please don't fantastic,

518
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Speaker 1: Please don't okay, ken, I'm sorry about that. Thank you

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Speaker 1: just sat here and talked about Trevion Williams for a second.

579
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: But how about this a guy, a guy that Cowboys

580
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: have shown interest in that we really haven't been talking about. Uh.

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00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: Secret agent wants to know more about Mike Webber, the

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Speaker 1: Ohio State guy. I mean, we've visit, we've talked about him,

583
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,199
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584
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,119
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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, but Damien m Harris and

586
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: Weber were the only two running backs have visited, right Henderson, No, no, no,

587
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: the other Memphis kid. Um yeah yeah, Troy Pauler, yeah,

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00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: um with Webber. Honestly, I think he's a kind of

589
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: a dime a dozen back. You've said that before. I

590
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Speaker 1: did not. I did not see greatness with him. No.

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00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's you're drafting him in the fourth

592
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: or fifth round, right exactly context. You know, it's he's

593
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: a guy that you he can do everything, okay, just

594
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything great. You know. I think he can

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00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: catch up all at the backfield, but he's a smaller

596
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: framed player, so it's a smaller target. Right. He can

597
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: block a little bit, but he's not going to be overpowering.

598
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of just a speed bump that

599
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: pass rushers don't have to go through. And then as

600
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: a runner, he's okay, but he's not going to consistently

601
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: make you miss. He's the number one on my book, right,

602
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: and he'll I mean he's got toughness, but not to

603
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: the point where he's just going to plow through, uh,

604
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, defenders at the second level. So again, I

605
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: like him, I just you know, he's not someone I'm

606
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: really going to be targeting. He gets what's blocked, whatever

607
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: is blocked in front of him, He's gonna get that.

608
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: He's a pretty damn good offensive line. Travis Frederick's supposed

609
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: to be back, no question anything for you. But he No,

610
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: he's right though. I think there's more dynamic backs in

611
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: this draft than this guy right here. All right, Dan,

612
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: you're the you hate running backs? Would you rather draft

613
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Speaker 1: Weeber at one thirty six or trey ViOn Williams at

614
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: ninety Williams at ninety? All right? Just getting better. We're

615
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: all on the same page. Leading the witness there a

616
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: little bit. Uh okay, Maps says, I'm paraphrasing here, but

617
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Speaker 1: he where Draymont Jones speaking of Ohio State players. I've

618
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: seen him on y'all's board, Like, where's where's he fallen?

619
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Speaker 1: Probably not a guy that's in play at fifty eight, right,

620
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: Probably not. He's a he's a three technique though, he's

621
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Speaker 1: if he's around. If he's around, then I'm intrigued. But

622
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: based on what I know, I don't expect that to

623
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: happen there. The opinions on him are all over the place.

624
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: Talk to some people, um, you know, some guys around

625
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: the league, and they love him. Some guys want nothing

626
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: to do with them. Like it's really perplexing how there's

627
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Speaker 1: so many different opinions on Raymond Jones. But I think

628
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, we talked about Taylor

629
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: Rap and that four seven eight forty yard dash is

630
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: gonna bother a lot of a lot of teams, but

631
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: there's gonna be at least one team that's gonna pull

632
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: the trigger in the top fifty and Draymond Jones. I

633
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of teams that are concerned about

634
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: his ability to stop the run, his uh, you know,

635
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: tendency to pop up off the snap and immediately get washed.

636
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: But there's going to be someone that's going to bank

637
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: on that ability to rush the passer and penetrate gaps.

638
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: And so I think he's gonna go somewhere in the

639
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: top fifty picks. But I'm really interesting to see where

640
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: he ends up because there's no consensus on Raymond Jones too.

641
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: I want to like the guy. I really want to

642
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: like the guy. That's not a phrase I like to hear. No, No,

643
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: I want to like the guys, and I think there's

644
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: there's more questions than their answers with this guy, yeah,

645
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: because I mean that's yeah. It's like there's times when

646
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: you see he can really run. I mean you watch

647
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: him get up the field, you watch him attack the gap.

648
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: He's got some pass rush moves. But you're but Dane's right,

649
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Playing him against the run is not good. I mean

650
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: he gets washed, he gets upright. The first step sometimes

651
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: is real tall. So yeah, but when he plays low

652
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: and he can attack the gap, he's a slippery player.

653
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: You hear me talk about that a lot. But man,

654
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: when you play tall in this league and there and

655
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of bulk, and he's a

656
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty pound guy, but he doesn't play

657
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: like a two hundred and eighty pound guy. Well, the

658
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: thing is with him, you do see a good athlete

659
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: on film, but yeah, he didn't test like a good

660
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: athlete seven seven three combe, I mean for a two pounder,

661
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: like if you expected a lot more so we I mean,

662
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: we don't think this guy is gonna be there at

663
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: fifty eight. But the way y'all are talking is like

664
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to draft him at fifty eight anyway. No,

665
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: But there's it's all flashed though. You watch the Okay,

666
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: you could fall in love with this guy watching him

667
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: play easily. You watch watch the TCU tape when Nick

668
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: Bosa got hurt and was out of the game. Draymond

669
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: Jones took over in that second half and really helped

670
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State win that game. Had the pick six that

671
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: was constantly in the backfield, uh TCU's backfield. So Draymond

672
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: Jones the flashes, if you watch his highlight tape, you'll

673
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: love them. But when you watch the full body of

674
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: work and you see everything else snapped to snap bassis,

675
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: that's where you start to go. You know, I love

676
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: I like him, but I don't love him. Yeah, but

677
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: your gut feeling is that he still won't even be around.

678
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, I'm what I have

679
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: him on my board. He's you just wouldn't even draft

680
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: him Anywhere's number eighty six. And you know where I

681
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: got him. You got him fifty six day, I had

682
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: in thirty six. Okay, yeah, okay, I don't know. I

683
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: think he's I think he's a I think he's probably

684
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna get hip in the high second rounds. I think

685
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna get selected. Someone's gonna But the thing about it.

686
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: He's one of those buyer and beware guys in Ohio

687
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: States had a couple of those buyer beware guys. Sure

688
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, well, I think it's again. It's a lot

689
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: like Taylor Rap, where there's gonna be a lot of

690
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: teams that say I'm out, But all it takes is

691
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: one team and he's too The flashes are too impressive,

692
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: so he's gonna go high. Sat think Taylor Rap. He's

693
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: too good of a football player to not go in

694
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: the top forty or fifty picks. Yeah, all right, Mark

695
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: wants you all to play a ball with him here,

696
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: so bear with me. Um, this is a trade back scenario.

697
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: So let's just assume that somebody wants to come up

698
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: to fifty eight, and that's always important. But if you're

699
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: wiped out, how far back are you willing to trade?

700
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: And then who would you Okay, so how far back

701
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: would you be willing to trade? And who might be

702
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: too rich at fifty eight that you'd be more willing

703
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: to draft at your new spot? Can I let me

704
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: let me run this by you, my friend, and it's

705
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a terrible question for you because

706
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: I kind of know what you're gonna go with this,

707
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: But I'll ask it. If you do trade back, say

708
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: you go back to you go from fifty eight to

709
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: say sixty eight or sixty nine, would you consider taking

710
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: the running back if he was still there, Harris, if

711
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: you picked up something for that move? Or am I

712
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: getting that's the question. Somebody's gonna give you a four Yeah,

713
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna give you a fourth round pick. I mean,

714
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: I'd love to give you Arizona's fourth round pick. By

715
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: the way, the one starts to day three. Yeah, you'd

716
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: probably make that deal when you But no, but somebody

717
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: gives you a fourth would and you're wiped out. I

718
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: think you could probably get Williams by the way, the

719
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt corner. You're gonna you're gonna move the mountains to

720
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: get that guy on this team. But no, no, I'm

721
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: just saying yeah, no, I mean, I'm I could understand

722
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: maybe running back in the nineties, but you can't. You can't.

723
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: You can't do it at sixty seven or six. Me personally,

724
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: if you if you dropped ten spots, or say you

725
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: dropped ten spots and pick up at three, well, let's

726
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: think about that. Who's there at six. Who would you

727
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: think would be there at sixty? You picking up? You're

728
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: not picking up at three? Are you a ten spot?

729
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm dropping ten spots? So you go sixty eight, you're

730
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna get a three for that. I don't have the

731
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: trade chart in front of me. Ten spots. Okay, let's

732
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: say it's the three next year. I need picks now.

733
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't have time for next year's picks. This plays

734
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: into my point, which is like, at fifty eight, what

735
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: if I'm dropping dealer? What, I'm gonna get a good pick?

736
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: But what like that? You're not gonna get a deal

737
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: that's going to excite me in this scenario. I don't

738
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: think like, well, we just talked about guys that ideally

739
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: at fifty eight, but maybe a little too you know,

740
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: like Tristan Hill. You know he might be a guy

741
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: you look at if you trade back ten spots, because

742
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 1: it's a little rich for me to take my fifty

743
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: eight but not for you, you you know what seventy two? Okay,

744
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: So so you draft Tristan Hill. Let's just make Triston

745
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Hill at seventy Yeah, and then you you think you

746
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: get a third round pick. I'm hold, what if you

747
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: can't you're gonna take a four I'm not dropping ten

748
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: spots in this draft to get screwed. Would you take

749
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill at seventy and a fourth round pick so

750
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: you got three fourth round picks? Jeez, I might do that.

751
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: Almost almost said, you know what, I don't know. I mean,

752
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: I would you rather do that or bite the bullet

753
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: and draft a guy that you don't want to We're

754
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: wiped out, he said, We're wiped out. Wiped out means

755
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: wiped out of guys you want to draft. Yeah, we're

756
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: wiped out of your of your dream scenario. Okay, So

757
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: Damien Harris at fifty eight or this so called deal

758
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill at seventy and a fourth Oh, he's not

759
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: gonna take yeah Hill Harris, I mean, yeah, give me,

760
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: give me. I'm not doing a running back at fifty eight. So,

761
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I was trying to get him to take

762
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: when it's sixty eight, though, I would just I mean

763
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: telling me that eight safeties are off the board by

764
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: you know, by fifty eight. I just okay, I feel

765
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: like I feel good. I'm gonna get my guy at

766
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: fifty eight. Whether say we're what's what's the Savage. Yeah, okay,

767
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: all right, you're fine with that, but they might not

768
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: be exactly. Yeah, I don't. I don't. This doesn't sound

769
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: plausible to me. And I mean I got and I got,

770
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: I got Savage at sixty and you have him at

771
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: fifty eight. Yeah, exactly. So I mean, look, Tristan Hill

772
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: is one of those names where but it's the risk

773
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: because again, this is the Cowboys are not the only

774
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: team looking for a three technique and three techniques are scarce.

775
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: And the day we tried to get Jones drafted here

776
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: just a second ago, not here, but right, So, I mean,

777
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: how many three techniques going day two? Three? Maybe? So

778
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: you know, if you're moving back ten spots, you're taking

779
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: a risk that he's gonna make it that far. There

780
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: has to be at least a handful of players, not

781
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: a handful, but three or four players you feel good

782
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: about if you're trading back. I just feel like there's

783
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: no reason to really trade back, to be honest, I

784
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: feel like no. And but he said wiped out. He

785
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: was just he put us in a box. You're never

786
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: You're never truly will okay, but in his question, we

787
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: were wiped out, all right, Our guys were there to

788
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: say wiped out because you know, again, okay, guyau we'll

789
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: find you're saying, we'll find a guy, because we'll find Hill.

790
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: We'll find Hill at fifty eight. Gut feeling, you feel

791
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: better about a guy you like being there at fifty eight.

792
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: Verse the return you get on a minor trade back well,

793
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: and then that's a key part of it, because again,

794
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: a fourth rounder could be an NFL starter, you know.

795
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: I mean, we're okay for Doc Prescott, You're but you're

796
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: you're taking chances. You're taking chances you're gonna miss out

797
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: of your guy. And what I was just saying about, Okay,

798
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: if you really want a three technique, you're taking a

799
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: chance that you're gonna miss out on your guy. Okay,

800
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: say you really want test In Hill, but then he's

801
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: gone at sixty five, and then you made that trade

802
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: and you're you're sick Ryan's getting fired, and you're absolutely right, Yeah,

803
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: you reluctantly take Ronell run there at seventy. Nope, I

804
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: don't like this. I wouldn't do it. There will be

805
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: there will be somebody there, there will be there's people

806
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: on the periscope to think that that Hill and Savage

807
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: at fifty eight or two. Rich, I don't agree with that.

808
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Hill, I do a little bit

809
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: Savage and I'm sorry Savage and Thornhill. Savage and Thornhill,

810
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: Savage and Thorne. I'd gladly take both of those guys

811
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: at fifty eight. They what do they want at fifty eight?

812
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean like we're six We're six spots away from

813
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the third round. Wait listen list the best sixty players

814
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: in this draft, and I have you have a hard

815
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: time doing it without including one Thornhill. Yeah, I got

816
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: a thought exercise. I want to do real quick, make

817
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: it quick, because we need to do this. Top one hundred.

818
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: Our long time a long time listener, Randall. He's supposed

819
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: to come to y'all scouting thing to good Well and

820
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: he can't. He his daughter's sick. Sorry about that. Um.

821
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: He wanted me to ask you all this. This is

822
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: a This is a thought exercise. See if you can

823
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: follow me here. Player A and B play the same

824
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: position and have similar traits. Player A is a starter

825
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: in the SEC. Player B is a Division two dynamo.

826
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: Player B, the Division two guy, had much much better

827
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: production in college. Who are you drafting, And why did

828
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: you say a position? Just pick a position. They play

829
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: the same position, doesn't matter, which I mean, I feel

830
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of broad. It's very broad, but you know

831
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: so much because again I don't production is great, But

832
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I care more about

833
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: traits and is it possible for two guys to have

834
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: the exact same traits, because isn't that what he said? Like,

835
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like one has to have

836
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: a little bit better traits. It's kind of like, you know,

837
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: all right, I'll give you one, I'll give you one.

838
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: What do you got? I think you got? You got

839
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Nelson at seventy and Max Crosby at seventy seven.

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00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: One went to Iowa, one went to Eastern Michigan. Well, again,

841
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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what I'm talking about, Like they

842
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Speaker 1: have different traits, you know, Like with Max Crosby, I'm

843
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: getting a better pass rusher. With Anthony Nelson, I'm getting

844
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: a better edge setter, you know, a guy that's better length,

845
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: better power. You know, I feel better about his ability

846
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Speaker 1: versus to run. But I feel much better about Max

847
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: Crosby as a pass rusher. So it comes down to

848
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: the traits in which type of play you're looking for

849
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: in that scenario that he's using. It's just it's hard

850
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: to say that two players have the exact same traits. Okay, better,

851
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: how about another one. How about how about Winovich at

852
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: sixty or Ferguson at sixty nine Michigan and Louisiana Tech. Yeah, right,

853
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: and Louisiana Tech obviously being highly highly productive and Winovich

854
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: was two. Um uh, you know in that scenario, I'm

855
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: going with the higher rated player on my board and

856
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: Ferguson right, I'm flipped on that. I got, I got,

857
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: I got Ferguson over. I'm not going to be right

858
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time like some guys will

859
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Speaker 1: get by me, but I'm always going to air on

860
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Speaker 1: the side of producing against the highest level of talent. Yeah,

861
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Speaker 1: I know. I think that That's certainly why strategy and

862
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: again that's why the Senior Bowl matters. You know, That's

863
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Speaker 1: why the combine matters, because at the combine, you could

864
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865
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Speaker 1: the positional drills one after the other with FBS guys,

867
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Speaker 1: and you know I've told the story before, but when

868
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00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: I was, Okay, give me Eric Fisher because he moved

871
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: much better, much more fluid, much better athlete. And I

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Speaker 1: when you watch these guys on film and you're talking

874
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875
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: with those two. But that's why the All Star Games,

876
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,520
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Speaker 1: their hanging out with us as always. I just want

931
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: to put out one final thing. Uh, the Beast finally

932
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: is out. Yes, so make sure you go to DP.

933
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: Brugler got seven days. Yeah, go you grab that. Go

934
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: check out his Twitter account. Looks so good. A physical copy,

935
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I'll tell you how important that guide is.

936
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: Yesterday a Hall of Famer came in here to have

937
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: his press conference for for his star on the Walk

938
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: of Fame over there what Champions Walk And it was

939
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: Gil Brandt. And Gil Brandt is like, have you got

940
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: my copy of Dane Brugler's Draft Guide? And I said,

941
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: I do the amount of calls from that from that gentleman, Yeah,

942
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: is it done? Is it done? That man, that man,

943
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: and he was part of he has helped us, He

944
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: helped us a little bit on this love. Yeah, Gill

945
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: did a great job. So so yes, you go to

946
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: DP Burglar on the Twitter feed and grab you a

947
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: copy of that. Okay, David Hellman, I'm gonna throw it

948
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: at you a little bit here. You've kind of got

949
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: our top one hundred lists. I sure do. And there's

950
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: some discrepancies. There's a lot of discrepancies. And I think

951
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: I love I love the fact that I do, love

952
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: the fact that I have a ton of respect for

953
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 1: Dane Burglar. I think I could have scouted with Dane

954
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: Burglar on that championship team that we had in Green Bay.

955
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: He would have been fit right in with John Dorsey,

956
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: John Snyder, Reggie McKenzie, Sean Hirock, you know those guys

957
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: that are all general managers. Leave This young man to

958
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: my right, would have been right there with us. So

959
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: if I have discrepancies with him, I had the same

960
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: discrepancies with those guys in Green Bay too, So it

961
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: makes me feel good that we can have these. So David,

962
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: I kind of go through a few of those if

963
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: you want to kind of talk about that, if you would,

964
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: My main, my main, imprey. And this isn't this isn't

965
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, um, what's the word. This isn't totally across

966
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: the board, true. I mean, Dane's got some guys higher

967
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: value than you do. You know, Dane's got Devin Bush

968
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: as a top ten player. You've got him at twenty,

969
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: the Michigan linebacker. Um about hype there. Yeah, he can

970
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: play play, there's no question. But for the most part,

971
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: we actually agreed on BOSSA this year, which was a

972
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: good thing I think for like, like Dane, Dane, did

973
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: you remember you remember like the two thousand and two

974
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: winner Olympics, Like the Russian judge just could not be impressed.

975
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Like that's that's Dane Brugler right here. Because especially You'm okay,

976
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: the first round more or less lines up for the

977
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: most part, but you get into like the second and

978
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: third round and you you said it during the break,

979
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: you have seventeen players in your top one hundred that

980
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Dane didn't even rank. Yeah, but they're in the back

981
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: end of it. Mainly that starts with Jalen Hurd. Yeah,

982
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: the Baylor receiver at number seventy five. You have him

983
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: at seventy five. Dane says, no, no, thank you, fourth

984
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: round grade for me, So he's probably he would have

985
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: made my one fifty, but yeah, I didn't make my

986
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: top one hundred. I think the you know, the knee injury, uh,

987
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: not being able to work out that that bothers me

988
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um But and he's still work in

989
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: progress as a receiver. But I think fourth round is

990
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: where I liked him. Another one again, you know for

991
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans Emanual Hall, the Missouri receiver that was a

992
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: visit eighty one on Brian's board, not ranked for for Dane.

993
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: That I just, I just I need a guy that

994
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: can stay on the football field, and that just bothers

995
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: the heck out of me. So yours is your greatest

996
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: more outside of the one hundred because of the health.

997
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Second round talent, Yeah, fourth round, final grade, because I

998
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: need a guy that I can rely on, and I

999
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: don't feel like all the hamstring problems and things like that,

1000
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: all the track injuries, you know, the lower body muscle injuries,

1001
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: and he doesn't fight through him consistently, so not the

1002
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: toughness then lacks toughness. Yeah, I mean, I hate to

1003
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: kind of put that on a player, but you know,

1004
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: you kind of that track mentality where you don't he's

1005
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: not going to tough through those injuries and stay on

1006
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: the football field, So that that bothers me. And that's

1007
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: why he's not my because I loved him. I've been

1008
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: marching for Emmanuel Hall throughout the season. But the more

1009
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: you get into it, more you talk to people, talk

1010
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: to people on Missouri's campus, Yeah, staying away, they'll know

1011
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: about him because of Derek Dooley. Y'all. Uh true, y'all

1012
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: actually line up on this guy really well. And it

1013
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: may be based on your your ranking. Maybe it's a

1014
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: guy we should have talked about at the top. We

1015
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: talked about him last week. Christian Miller. Yeah, one hundredth one,

1016
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: the last guy on Brian's board, ninety sixth for Dane.

1017
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, consideration, where do you play Christians why?

1018
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: That's why I think that Christian Miller. I think for

1019
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: this guy, for this team, he's gonna play linebacker and

1020
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: I and my thought in that would be he would

1021
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: probably play as a Sam linebacker too, right, I agree,

1022
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: And but on tape he was at his best when

1023
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: he was rushing the past. Yeah, when he can rush

1024
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: the passer. And another guy where he really struggled to

1025
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Speaker 1: stay healthy. I mean, he was a big time recruit,

1026
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: had four starts in his career at Alabama, and a

1027
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: lot of that was because of health, and so when

1028
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: he was on the field, he was uh, you know,

1029
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: Nick Saban talks really glowingly about him because he did

1030
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: whatever he needed to do, you know, to be on

1031
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: the field, whether he's rushing the pass or playing in

1032
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: the middle whatever. He accepted that responsibility and did it.

1033
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to like about just his football character,

1034
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: but durability as a factor, and then just fit where

1035
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: what does he do best. I like him as a

1036
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: pass rusher, but I see him more as a three

1037
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: or four player where he's going to be standing up

1038
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: rushing off the edge, kind of like he did at

1039
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Alabama more so than what they do here. Yeah, I

1040
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: want I wanna go there. I mean, these guys are

1041
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: all ranked by both of you, but I mean, hey,

1042
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: we're looking at the second and third round. Go through

1043
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: some names that might make sense for the Cowboys. Which okay,

1044
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: well here's one, Brian, I gave Dane all the credit.

1045
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: Dane's got our guy, Chauncey Gardner Johnson. That's a top

1046
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: fifty prospect. You got him way down at sixty seven.

1047
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: What gives? What didn't you like? Yeah? I thought that

1048
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: to me when when when I watched him play and

1049
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: you know, and I was looking really for more of

1050
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: a guy. I like the coverage aspect to him, I

1051
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: think is really good that that part of it was

1052
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: impressive to me. But I there were times where I

1053
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: just did not think that he was a good enough tackler,

1054
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: you know. And that's the thing that I you know,

1055
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: when you when you start talking about, okay, what can

1056
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: you do? I mean, I understand that how you have

1057
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: guys that Okay, you play him a coverage, but then

1058
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the ball gets into space and

1059
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: now he's missed a tackle. Now there's that hidden yards.

1060
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: There's another twenty something yards added because of a missed

1061
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: tackle there. So I just, man, I just thought it

1062
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: was a fifty fifty proposition with this guy playing as

1063
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: a safety. And I'm not gonna say I love the

1064
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: fact that he plays all over the field. I love

1065
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: the fact that he can cover. I love the fact

1066
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: that he can play in the slot. But I do

1067
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: not like the fact that he is a fifty fifty

1068
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: player when it comes to tackling. I saw a little

1069
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: bit better batting average than fifty fifty. But I mean,

1070
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. I just thought he was

1071
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: a play disruptor, whether it was in coverage or as

1072
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: a blitzer making play. He's so aggressive and sometimes he

1073
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: does come in too hot. And you know, he's not

1074
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: the biggest guy. He's only at five eleven two ten,

1075
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: so that's not the biggest guy. And you know, so

1076
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: he has to be a little more sound with his

1077
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: technique when he finishes. But the way he flies around

1078
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: the field, the aggressiveness, like that's not something you can

1079
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: really coach. Either you have it or you don't. I'm

1080
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: betting on a guy like Gardner Johnson. Again, I like

1081
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: him best as a nickel I think that's where you

1082
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: can best see his talents. So if you have I

1083
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: need a nickel player, I'm taking him in the top

1084
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: forty and feeling good about it. These are two of

1085
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: the biggest discrepancies on this entire thing, and they're guys

1086
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: that kind of fit M A and M tight end.

1087
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: Jase Sternberger Brian's got him at fifty nine, Dane way

1088
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: down at ninety three. That's that's up more than around

1089
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: what gives with Jason. You know, I first of all,

1090
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: one year he did it. I mean, he couldn't get

1091
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: on the field of Kansas really and then part of

1092
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: that was scheme and what they were asking him to do.

1093
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: But then he goes to a and m has the

1094
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: breakout season. You know, I think there's a lot to

1095
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: like with him as a pass catcher, but as a blocker,

1096
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: I worry about him. Um So as an inline player,

1097
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: I have some questions. As a down the field player. Um,

1098
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 1: I think that he's there's nothing that really stands out

1099
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: as a difference maker, you know, like there's nothing exceptional

1100
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: about what he does except I guess the one thing

1101
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: that his trump card is once he has the football,

1102
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: he can be, you know, a tough guy to get

1103
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: on the field or get on the ground. So but

1104
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: he as a route runner, as a pass catcher, like,

1105
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: there's nothing that really blows me away. So third round,

1106
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: he's a solid third round pick for me. Um, you know,

1107
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: I like him, but not taking him as a second

1108
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: round guy. Yeah, I think this guy's a mismatch player. Myself.

1109
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: I think he's right about the you know, some of

1110
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: the inline stuff and the flex stuff. I mean, I

1111
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: think that's that is a concern. But I think this

1112
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: guy knows how to separate. I think he does get separation.

1113
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: I think he catches the ball well down the field.

1114
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: I think the ball in his hands is really really

1115
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: good too. I think you know, this guy, he gets

1116
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: his eyes around quick for the ball. It's not like

1117
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: he's looking. I mean he's it's not like he's late

1118
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: with his hands or his eyes or anything like that.

1119
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: But when he when he separates down the field, that man,

1120
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: that quarterback did a good job of getting the ball

1121
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: and letting him just run with it. I think he

1122
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: can secure the ball. Uh, yeah, he did get He

1123
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: had a fumble against LSU that should have been called.

1124
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: But overall, overall, though, I do I think this guy

1125
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: is a mismatch player. I think someone's gonna draft this kid,

1126
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: and he's gonna he's gonna present a lot of problems

1127
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: because of the his ability to get down the field.

1128
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: Another one that really stands out, Bright, I think you've

1129
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: cooled on Zach Allen as a possible Cowboys pick a

1130
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: little after the after the Quinn, after the Robert Quinn trade. Yeah,

1131
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: you've still got him as a as number forty five. Yeah,

1132
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: Dane seventy four. Again, I mean you're talking thirty spots,

1133
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: like full rounds of difference. What gives I just I

1134
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: don't know, I talking about defensive end who is not

1135
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: going to be a big time pass rushers. That's not

1136
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: what he does best. And I think it just comes

1137
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: more and along the lines of what he does best

1138
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: and how that fits the value of that. If I'm

1139
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: drafting a defensive end and the you know, top sixty picks,

1140
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: I want a guy can get to the quarterback, you know.

1141
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I could find sound run defenders, edge setters,

1142
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: you know later on not you know, later rounds, but

1143
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: third round, fourth round. And so that's why Zach Allen

1144
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: as a third round player on my board at top

1145
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: seventy five pick, but more of a third round player

1146
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: then a guy that I'm gonna take at a top fifty,

1147
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: top sixty. So I like Greg Allen, it's just, you know,

1148
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: he he just doesn't have enough juice as a pass rusher,

1149
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: and I think they kind of limits him a little bit. Yeah,

1150
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: I think the fact that he could play a couple

1151
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: different positions helps me with my mental part of it, though.

1152
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: I think he's a really hard guy to fool. And

1153
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: so if you've got a guy that has some pass

1154
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: rush ability, I'm Dan's right, He's not going to make

1155
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: you feel like that you're getting one of the top

1156
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: pass rushers. But what you're getting a guy is there's

1157
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: a really good run defender. You're getting a guy that

1158
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: has some strength at the point of attack. He's aggressive

1159
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 1: when it comes to playing outside the tackle box. He'll

1160
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: chase the effort. All those things about him, Dang's right,

1161
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: there's there's snaps. He needs to finish better. But when

1162
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: he gets in position, he can be that guy that

1163
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: gets the ball carrier on the ground. He can get

1164
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: a quarterback on the ground in the pocket. He's never

1165
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: gonna be a double digit sack guy. But but when

1166
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: you talk about complete players, I feel like though he's

1167
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: a guy that would get my consideration that that you know,

1168
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: I have him there talking about him at fifty eight

1169
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: because the fact that he could play a couple of positions.

1170
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: But I also feel like though that he's one of

1171
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: those guys a little bit like Crawford that does a

1172
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: lot of things that doesn't show up in the box score.

1173
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: He's always helping his teammates get to the quarterback. He

1174
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: can be a guy that could be a pick and

1175
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: then guys could get around him. He's got some power

1176
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: to him. I just liked the guy for his ability

1177
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: to be an every down type player. I just don't

1178
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: know if the number are gonna be Dans right about that,

1179
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: but I think every down he's gonna do something to

1180
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: help you win again, and I mean Crawford. I think

1181
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: it's a perfect comparison for him. Yeah, like that's what

1182
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: he is. His best case he'll have that was a

1183
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: third round right pick eighty one. Yeah, I draft Zack

1184
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: Alan at ninety, I wouldn't want to at fifty eight. Yeah,

1185
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: kind of how I feel. Um, these guys want, that's

1186
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 1: what you're a great reflect your numbers reflect. These guys

1187
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: won't be cowboys. But I do think it's interesting. Again,

1188
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: I cut really absurd ones quickly. I know we're runn

1189
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: out of time. Brian Burns, this is a huge one,

1190
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: widely regarded as a top fifteen pick. Dan's got him

1191
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: out eleven. You're you're saying he's number forty two. I don't,

1192
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: I am not. I am not a fan. Too small

1193
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: he I just don't I see a small player. Can't

1194
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: feed him some milkshakes? Well, I just don't know if

1195
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: he's ever to me. When you come from a big

1196
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: time program, and you've never really put on weight, you

1197
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like you bulk or stringth I

1198
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: just I don't know how he gets into a pro

1199
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: program and puts something. Wait what about our and Randy?

1200
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: Did Randy ever really put on a lot of weight?

1201
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's he's bigger than he was came out.

1202
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: Its almost the exact same weight as DeMarcus Lawrence. Oh no, no,

1203
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I just

1204
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: say that. Okay, does he does he play light? Do

1205
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: you feel like he plays light? Yes? He does. See

1206
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: That's where that's you're you're banking, if you're a scout,

1207
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: if you're a general manager, you're tying your your your

1208
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: draft to this guy that I think is a one

1209
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: trick pony. I mean a little bit, but we're talking

1210
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: about a really good trick, okay, Like I mean getting

1211
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks of pretty good speed off the edge,

1212
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: Like there are times where, yeah, if an offensive line

1213
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: dominant player off the edge, I think he has that

1214
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: type of potential. I mean, I see a potential. Is

1215
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: potential to me? Is not eleven? That potential is not eleven?

1216
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: Is it forty two? I mean, I don't. To me,

1217
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: I would bet on those traits. Uh. And somewhere in

1218
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: the top fifteen pick pass rusher is one of those

1219
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: spots where you bank on. I'd be happy to admit

1220
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. But I've seen this Florida State bit. You know,

1221
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: I've seen the judging program. No, no, no, I've seen

1222
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: the Jamal Reynolds of the world and stuff like that.

1223
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: Go and not do anything. Drafting sounds like Ron Wolf's

1224
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: last pick. You get you get that fifteenth overalls like

1225
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago, right, you know, I know it

1226
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: wasn't you. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, though this guy.

1227
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: To me, if I'm wrong about him being a pass rusher,

1228
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: then I'll admit it. But I just don't see. I

1229
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: don't see top ten talent. I don't, all right, and

1230
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: I really don't real quick. I think this is the

1231
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: biggest discrepancy on the whole thing. And I said Dane's

1232
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: the Russian judge, but this is insane. Forty one spots

1233
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: Dane has old Miss receiver A. J. Brown as the

1234
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: thirty first best player. Brian, you have them all the

1235
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: way down at seventy two. I think that's the biggest

1236
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: discrepancy on this whole board. A J. Brown, to me,

1237
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: is one of the that is a forty one spot difference.

1238
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: I think A. J. Brown is one of the cleanest

1239
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: players in this draft. Like I think, I don't know

1240
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: what a ceiling is, but I feel really, really good

1241
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: that I'm getting a good player who's not gonna bust.

1242
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: Like I don't, I'm interested to hear what you don't

1243
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: like about AJ Brown. I just don't think there's anything

1244
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: really special about him. Okay, I don't. I mean all

1245
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: these receivers keep talk while I look at I don't.

1246
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean I am not I am when you there's

1247
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: like you're saying, okay, clean, What is really? What is what?

1248
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: What is his best trade other than running roun Day's

1249
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: second highest ratings, Other than running routes? He's a receiver.

1250
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean he I think he has natural routes, natural hands.

1251
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: He's two hundred twenty six pounds and ran a four

1252
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: four I mean highly productive, set all kinds of records

1253
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: at old miss receiving. I to me, he is worthy

1254
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: of first round consideration. I can play inside, can play outside.

1255
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: I just I'm not sure there's not speed you he

1256
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: does not play at that time speed. You can't say that.

1257
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: I will disagree there. I'll disagree there. I think he is.

1258
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: Is there quickness there with this guy? You see yeah, okay,

1259
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: fight fight fight. I don't I don't see a I

1260
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: don't see a special player there. No, Well, okay special.

1261
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: Well you're talking about him like he's Where's he get

1262
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: him ranked thirty one? Yeah? Okay, that you got him

1263
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: right outside the first there's like thirty special players in

1264
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: this draft. Like, I don't think he's special. No, but

1265
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be an NFL star. Well,

1266
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: all these guys could be NFL starters. Let's not do that.

1267
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: Play that card. Well, okay, you would hope they are

1268
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: top one hundred players. Sure, Okay, I think he's going

1269
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: to be a He's my third receiver Abiliey behind metcalt. No,

1270
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: he's my third. Yeah. I mean I'm gonna trust your

1271
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: word over mine. Metcalf. I have like twenty seven Brown,

1272
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: have twenty eight AJ Brown have their one? Where this

1273
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: is all? I don't even where's AJ Brown? Brian? You

1274
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: have you must have him way down the list. Where

1275
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: do you have him ranked? Like A hundred? But oh oh,

1276
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: what are you doing. I'm I'm out of it. I'm sorry,

1277
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: never mind, go ahead, he hits your second rated receiver. No,

1278
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean with look, I don't know. I just I

1279
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: see a guy that can uncover. He catches the ball,

1280
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: he's very strong after the catch, he can block. I

1281
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: just what are the holes? I guess, like I understand

1282
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: thinking he's not going to be like a number one receiver,

1283
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: that's fine, But but no, if he's not, you get

1284
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: him at thirty one and you don't think he's gonna

1285
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: be a number one receiver. Most receivers draft in that

1286
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: area are I mean, that's there's just how many if

1287
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: I follow you there? Yeah, exactly, there's no Okay, when

1288
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: I say number one receivers, there's like thirteen number one

1289
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL. When you say number one receiver,

1290
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: talking about leaving the super freaks, I'm talking about yeah,

1291
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: like true number ones, like not every team. Half the

1292
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: teams in the league don't have a number one receiver,

1293
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: a true number one. So what Stephen Jones told us

1294
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: all last spring? Yeah, yeah, that worked out real well,

1295
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: and they had to go up a number one to

1296
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: get a real wide receipt. I think a J. Brown

1297
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: can be Juju Smith Schuster? When was he taking sixty six?

1298
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: Sixty two? Yeah? And where would be? Where would he

1299
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: be taking them? Sorrow? First round? Top fifteen somewhere? Well,

1300
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: where did you have Schuster on your board? Dane? We're

1301
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: going another hour? We got more to talk about here. No,

1302
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm serious, I'm asking. I really don't remember. Look it up.

1303
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: You probably have been sixty two where you should have been.

1304
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: But what's that matter with Ajo Brown? I'm just saying

1305
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: we missed on Judus miss Uster real quick before we

1306
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 1: get out of here. We might not have How many

1307
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: first round grades do you have? Brian? Twenty five? How

1308
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: many grades do you have? Dane? Twenty one? That seems

1309
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: like a lot, especially for me. Twenty five For me

1310
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: it is. And here I am like this draft black

1311
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: star power to me, like this is not a sexy

1312
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: draft by any stretch. And you're telling me there's twenty

1313
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: five first round grades and I don't have a first

1314
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: round safety or a first round wide receiver. That's music

1315
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: in my ears. I don't have the first round safety.

1316
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: He's tackles and twenty five like usually it's like eighteen. Well,

1317
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you where I think him different because rock

1318
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: your sin? What about him? Temple first round? Yeah, twenty six,

1319
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: twenty six, Yeah, yeah, so he's just outside. Yeah, there

1320
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: you go, Byron Murphy's my only first round corner one

1321
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: week away. Kids. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Let's do

1322
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: more of that about Brown. Let's talk about A J.

1323
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: Brown some more. Well, if we agreed all these guys,

1324
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: this wouldn't be fun. No, we wouldn't have a sure

1325
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: to talk about. All right. Well, hey, thanks everybody out

1326
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: there for joining us. I always appreciate the back and forth.

1327
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have Brown higher than me too.

1328
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: But anyway, for my aunt Dane Burglar, for David Hellman,

1329
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: can't get son Bryan Bross. If you're around Dallas Fort

1330
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: Worth again, Miller Litte. The Draft show will be at

1331
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: Shakington's Shakerton's in the Colony April twenty third, from five

1332
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: to seven, So check us out. Then you guys, have

1333
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: a good weekend. We'll see you then,