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Speaker 1: All right, and welcome into BP NFL. It's time to

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Speaker 1: take a first look at the NFL futures betting market

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Speaker 1: following the schedule release, I'm your host, Seth Wilcock, and

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Speaker 1: today I'm linking up with two of the best kaffers

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Speaker 1: in the game, including a man I've missed this offseason

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Speaker 1: for all as Mike Tomlin Underdog plays all his Closer

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Speaker 1: Treel Furman Junior Trell. Good to see you, pal. How

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Speaker 1: are you as the summertime approaches?

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Speaker 2: Man? Yeah, I'm good. I mean we're here for another

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Speaker 2: football season coming around. I'm wnbas go let's say. You

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Speaker 2: know that gets me all the way through my summer.

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Speaker 2: So I'm having a good time here and I'm very

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Speaker 2: much looking forward to seeing Brian Dable and Joe Shane

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Speaker 2: lose their jobs.

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Speaker 1: You've been calling it for a while. You uh, not

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Speaker 1: the biggest cam Ward fan, So you dodged a bullet there,

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Speaker 1: but you did get Jackson Dart. How do you you

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Speaker 1: like Dart? Are you good on that?

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Speaker 2: You clearly didn't see the reaction video. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I think Hey, look, you had your job on this guy.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, hey, he either works out and we're

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Speaker 2: immediately a good team already, or everybody's fired and then

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Speaker 2: the next coach decides that they didn't draft him, and

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Speaker 2: then we go through this cycle of everybody punting this

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Speaker 2: guy down. So I've already seen the script for how

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Speaker 2: the Giant season is and it hopefully it ends with Joe,

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll certainly chat a little bit more about that

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Speaker 1: later on. We've also got a man who lives and

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Speaker 1: to the strip right now, saddle up at a sports book.

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Speaker 1: He's the host of Daily Juice here on the Betting

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Speaker 1: Pros YouTube channel. It's Matt prol Matt, thanks for hanging

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Speaker 1: out with us. How are you as we approach the

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Speaker 1: NFL offseason getting in even a higher swing?

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Speaker 3: I'm great because I'm on the opposite spectrum of Terrell.

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Speaker 3: I mean, his team's in the toilet. My team is

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Speaker 3: the hottest team in football at the moment. So I

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Speaker 3: can't wait for camp to get going. I can't wait

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Speaker 3: to see what the Patriots bring out, But I can't

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Speaker 3: wait to see what Vrabeling company put together here for

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Speaker 3: the I think a team that's going to wow a

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Speaker 3: lot of people. So the Patriots' schedule is the exact

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Speaker 3: opposite of the Giant. It's easy, and they've got a young,

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Speaker 3: hot shot quarterback to mix up now with a running

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Speaker 4: So I'm great.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I like it too. I like bringing

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Speaker 1: rapes back. I like everything they did in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I think Kyle Williams was kind of a sneaky wide

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Speaker 1: receiver on Day two there. I know everyone was shouting out, hey,

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Speaker 1: we need to go get someone for Drake Mayhm Henderson.

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Speaker 1: I think in that backfield as well will be fun.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's any Patriots talk on

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Speaker 1: the program today, but we'll certainly chat about it throughout

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Speaker 1: the offseason. On today's show, we will be breaking down

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Speaker 1: the following betting markets Offensive Rookie of the Year, NFL

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Speaker 1: MVP season wins, totals, division winners, and our best value plays.

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Speaker 1: Matt and Trett will give you their top plays, and

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Speaker 1: I'll also have a few fun long shots I'll throw

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Speaker 1: out as well before we get going. Just want to

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead, gentlemen, let's start in the offensive rook

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Speaker 1: of the year market. The favorites currently ashin gent d

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Speaker 1: plus two to ninety, cam Ward plus three eighty, Travis

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Speaker 1: Where are you going here, Terrell? Is there any value

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Speaker 2: Well, I automatically think GenZ is a lot of people's

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to give out something more fun. I

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Speaker 2: throughout any of this draft process. You know, my guy

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Speaker 2: I think that RJ Harvey here and what could potentially

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just a couple weeks ago when I was doing

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Speaker 1: you liking in the offensive Rookie of the Year market? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think if we're gonna look to handicap in May

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Speaker 4: So Ashton Genty, I'm in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you right now the offensive line is

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Speaker 3: Brian's doing the same thing. They went ahead and got

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Speaker 4: Good luck.

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Speaker 3: Cam Ward's not winning this award because he's going to

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Speaker 3: be way too interception prone. So that leaves Travis Hunter

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Speaker 3: And I know everyone's saying he's going to be a

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Speaker 3: play perspective. So this is kind of like the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 3: What will the voters vote for? And I think in

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Speaker 4: You're get a chance to prove that you can.

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Speaker 3: Be an NFL wide receiver with a quarterback with a

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Speaker 3: for Travis Hunter. So if I'm betting this market now,

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Speaker 3: I'll take the ten to one on Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 1: I completely understand the logic. I'm so mixed on it because,

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Speaker 1: like I'm a little worried, like same thing for fantasy

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Speaker 1: the chance that you know, this ten to one ticket

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, And Goldilocks needs some help down there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's why they got him. Goldiloss doesn't know

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Speaker 2: getting him a big play weapon as a Travis Hunter. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I think that's a very good point to add

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Speaker 2: So I understand, and I think, honestly, you play a

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good way to start your offensive

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Speaker 1: Speaking of sprinkles, and I'm talking the smallest of sprinkles here,

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Speaker 1: I got a little long shot for you, Cam Skataboo

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Speaker 1: one hundred to one, and let me be clear, I

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Speaker 1: do not think he can win Offensive Rookie of the Year. However,

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Speaker 1: I like a few things about this one hundred to

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Speaker 1: one ticket. First, it's at Fandle. That's always my favorite

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Speaker 1: place to place futures. They can give you a cash

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Speaker 1: I've seen him at forty to one at Bett Rivers,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and the Giants. He was an early fourth

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Speaker 1: Heisman voting. Devin Singletary. While he's always kind of been

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Speaker 1: that guy who's clogged up backfields, he didn't really work

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Speaker 1: in this inside zone duo approach that Dable runs, Tyrone Tracy,

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Speaker 1: over six hundred receiving yards four five receptions and potentially

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Speaker 1: gained close to a fifty percent snap share, and with

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Speaker 1: to November. Maybe you have a cash out sitting there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a chance we've ride this baby out if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the difference between betting and fantasy. So

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Speaker 3: I think Scottaboo as a fantasy player, I think it's

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Speaker 3: a great it's a great idea. He's gonna be on

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Speaker 1: So I like the Giants. I think a little more

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Speaker 4: Giants are going to be awful. I mean absolutely awful.

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Speaker 3: That they have the hardest schedule in football, That they

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Speaker 3: have the hardest schedule in football, and they have no quarterback,

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Speaker 3: They have a quarterback coach who can't coach anything else,

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Speaker 3: and they have an offensive line that is not good,

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Speaker 4: That the Giants are going to be awful. So if

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Speaker 3: Fine, Scattabo's gonna get a bunch of carries that's awesome

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Speaker 3: for fantasy, not for offensive Rookie of the Year that

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Speaker 3: doesn't win the award. This is a popularity contest. I mean,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: In baseball we give Mike Trout the MVP sure as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very very fair. Hoping we can maybe find something

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Speaker 1: That's kind of really the play for me. But either way,

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Speaker 1: I totally understand. And dude, look, abdolt Carter's over there.

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Speaker 1: Let's have some respect for those giants here, Matt. But

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Speaker 1: MVP conversation. The current betting favorites are Lamar Jackson plus

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Speaker 1: five point fifty, Josh Allen go back to back plus

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Speaker 1: six fifty, Joe Burrows seven to one, Patty Mahomes plus

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Speaker 1: seven to fifty, and Jayden Daniels now plus nine hundred

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Speaker 1: y open at eleven to one. I have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of action on him already, But Parol, I want

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Speaker 1: to start with you, man, where are you going in

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Speaker 1: this MVP front.

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Speaker 3: The same person that should have won it last year

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Speaker 3: in Lamar Jackson. I mean, Lamar was the MVP last year.

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Speaker 3: This is why human beings can't be trusted in the

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Speaker 3: fatigued and they're like, it's the same thing going on

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Speaker 3: with Jokic in the MVP vote in the NBA. I

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Speaker 3: not the MVP. It's Jokic. It's the same thing with Lamar.

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Speaker 3: Lamar was the MVP last week, last year, I get it,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen was great, but Lamar Jackson was the most

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Speaker 3: valuable player for his team. He'll be the most valuable

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Speaker 3: They've added some more weapons they've used there, and they've

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Speaker 3: for the Ravens. I think Lamar Jackson has another monster year.

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Speaker 3: I think the Ravens are the team to beat in

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Speaker 3: I think finally in the postseason, this is the time

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Speaker 3: Jackson to finally get the award he should have won

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right when things were kind of tightening up and

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen was looking like the heavy favorite, I did

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Speaker 1: a parlay with him and Burrow for Burrow to win

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Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the Year. Nice and it was a sweater.

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Speaker 1: It was it was. It was not fun. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking for about three months that I was just gonna

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Speaker 1: lose it all. So big unit play ended up paying

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Speaker 1: out there, but potentially maybe some action here for matt

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Speaker 1: On Lamar Jackson troll, I want to send it over

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Speaker 1: to you. Who are you liking in the MVP front?

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Speaker 2: Well, the only reason I didn't play Lamar Jackson is

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Speaker 2: because the number is too short for me. And as

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Speaker 2: I cannot play him at that short of a number,

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Speaker 2: and then he goes on his heater through the rest

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Speaker 2: way more fun to bet. Then. Unfortunately, I decided to

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Speaker 2: took this year, because clearly it's say, hey, let's just

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. And so if we're just gonna spread the

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Speaker 2: and oh, Josh, we would to make sure that you

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Speaker 2: you're MVP in our hearts. Here you go, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna do the same thing with Joe Burrow, and

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow has this bounce back year where if the

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Speaker 2: Because guess what, they tried to talk themselves into Joe

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Speaker 2: looks like it is Joe Burrow's time, and he got

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Speaker 1: It's a fair point, Matt. I think where I struggle,

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Speaker 1: it's like the same thing that happened last year. I

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Speaker 1: if Burrow can be the MVP on a team that

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Speaker 3: If that I mean they play in a really hard

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Speaker 4: They were playing better at the end of the year.

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Speaker 4: We don't really know what the Steelers are going to

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Speaker 3: Obviously, They've got major question marks at quarterback, and we'll

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Speaker 3: I am Burrow is awesome. I love Joe Burrow, I

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Speaker 3: But their head coach is Zach Taylor, and as long

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Speaker 1: The Bengals coaching tree on this program has been catching stray.

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Speaker 1: He's from matt here. I can tell you're not a

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Speaker 3: You got to remember I worked in Nebraska. I covered

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Speaker 3: these guys. Zach Taylor was the quarterback for Nebraska under

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Speaker 3: I'm not a fan. I wasn't even even in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl year. I was stunned that Zach Taylor. I

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Speaker 3: how the hell with the Bengals here? How is Zach

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Speaker 3: Taylor taking this team to the super Bowl? Because he

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Speaker 3: But just because he was under Sean McVay doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: Sure, let's go ahead and get to the season win totals.

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Speaker 1: This is a really fun market, but one that's certainly

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Speaker 1: tough to bet. As you're gonna be laying some potential

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Speaker 1: that caught your eye? Trell?

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, I think that as I sit here and

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Speaker 2: somebody's gotta be bad, somebody's got to be horrible. What

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Speaker 2: And I think they're actually one. I think they're one

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Speaker 2: two games better than win total. But I'm gonna hear

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Speaker 2: whether they didn't know about it, they went and get

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Speaker 2: which is crazy because I don't know if they watched

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Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck gets one hit in the NFL, he's out

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Speaker 2: of here. Dude, he couldn't last a day. And then

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Speaker 1: I mean J Caner and J Caner dog.

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Speaker 2: What like everybody talks about it. It's been years that

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Speaker 2: long term tank for arch Manning. There are a couple

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Speaker 2: the Saints that I believe have a tie to arch

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Speaker 2: gonna be Anny good. They have a win total five

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Speaker 2: and a half. I think you could take it lower

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Speaker 2: and get four and a half at plus twenty. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how the Saints are gonna win games this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt, if we could bet on arch Manning coming out,

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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of talk whether he'd be twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six, whether it be twenty twenty seven, Like what

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Speaker 3: I think I think he's he's coming out, Like oh okay,

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Speaker 3: It would be stunning for him to up on the opportunity,

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Speaker 3: there'd be no reason why to stay. I mean you

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Speaker 3: the New Orleans Saints. I mean, Treil's point is completely accurate.

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Speaker 3: That's where his family made their name in New Orleans,

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Speaker 3: so it would be if the Saints can tank for him.

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Speaker 3: I like Terrell's play. I think the Saints are going

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Speaker 3: New head coach, you can sit there and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: and then we're gonna give you your guy. We're gonna give

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Speaker 4: Arch Manning stays in college.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's good to know. Terrell Over on the

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Speaker 1: VP College Football Show this year will make the most

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Speaker 1: of the one year of Arch that will potentially be

436
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Speaker 1: getting that. Yeah, let's go ahead to parole Matt. I

437
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Speaker 1: want to hear your case for why you're dogging the

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Speaker 1: Giants so much. I really like what they did in

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Speaker 1: the draft. Man, we already talked about getting a dynamic

440
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Speaker 1: running back on Day three, and is this arguably the

441
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Speaker 1: best defensive front in football right now?

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Speaker 3: I don't really care what they put out there. Their

443
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Speaker 3: schedule is absolutely insane. And it's funny that you say

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Speaker 3: the Saints because if they don't win at New Orleans,

445
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Speaker 3: they're not winning a game till November. I mean, they

446
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Speaker 3: open on the road against Washington and Set. Okay, they

447
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 3: open on the road at Washington, at Dallas, they're home

448
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Speaker 3: for their home for the Chiefs and the Chargers. If

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Speaker 3: they don't beat New Orleans on the road, they have

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Speaker 3: the Eagles, then they're at Denver, then they're at the Eagles,

451
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Speaker 3: then they're home for the forty nine ers, and they

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Speaker 3: play at the Bears on November the ninth. They're not

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Speaker 3: going to be just dogs. They're going to be six

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Speaker 3: point dogs or higher in all of those games. They

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Speaker 3: are going to be right now a betting if you're

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Speaker 3: looking at survivor pools, fading the Giants is going to

457
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Speaker 3: be an awesome opportunity to fade the Giants. Okay, roll

458
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Speaker 3: with them by fading them, and you look at then

459
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Speaker 3: they play Green Bay at home at Detroit at the

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Speaker 3: Patriots and their bye week is Week fourteen. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: be two and eleven when they get to that point.

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Speaker 3: Under five and a half wins one hundred percent Giants

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Speaker 3: under five and a half wins, and they're most likely

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Speaker 3: right back in the top two or top three, maybe

465
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Speaker 3: even number one pick in the in upcoming draft. Here

466
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Speaker 3: and you'll get your wish. Terrell Brian Dable's gonna get fired.

467
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Speaker 3: The whole front office is getting fired because I look.

468
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Speaker 3: I like Jackson Dart. I liked him as a college prospect.

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Speaker 3: I hate him with the Giants can I I hate

470
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Speaker 3: him where he got picked. I was like, this is

471
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Speaker 3: a really fit matters in the NFL so much and

472
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Speaker 3: going into a place where they don't know what they're

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Speaker 3: doing with their quarterback position. Not something I'm signing up for.

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Speaker 3: Giants under five and a half wins.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Tureu. I actually made a comment on the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: pros YouTube channel with Debro a couple weeks ago that

477
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Speaker 1: I actually thought maybe there was some value in in

478
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Speaker 1: betting like an exact order for this division and putting

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Speaker 1: the Giants above the Cowboys. However, since then, we got

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Speaker 1: the George Pickens trade. We also now have this terrible

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Speaker 1: schedule for the Giants, which Matt Matt laid out perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Like I think i'm you know, maybe my love for

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Speaker 1: this team is maybe a little misplaced. How do you

484
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Speaker 1: feel about it?

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Speaker 2: No, I think the Giants are going to be bad,

486
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Speaker 2: but I if Matt's right, then kudos to Matt. But

487
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Speaker 2: I've been a giantsman for a long time and I

488
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Speaker 2: know what the Giants do, and what the Giants don't

489
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Speaker 2: do is they don't tank, and they go out there

490
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Speaker 2: and they win games at the end of the season

491
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Speaker 2: that are meaningless. And so you'll know in the beginning

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Speaker 2: of your season if the Giants steal a couple of wins,

493
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Speaker 2: because unfortunately, this Giants team plays really really well, especially

494
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Speaker 2: as road dogs under day. Boy don't understand why, and

495
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Speaker 2: they have a great history with the Commanders. The Cowboys,

496
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Speaker 2: I think are on a down year. You're right, that

497
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: Saints game is very important. They gotta win that Saints game. However,

498
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Speaker 2: I think the Saints are horrible. So like as much

499
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Speaker 2: as I would love for the Giants to be in

500
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Speaker 2: the realm for the number one pick, because then you

501
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Speaker 2: told me that i'd have Arch Manning and I'd have

502
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Speaker 2: Abdul Carter and then I'd really really be excited about

503
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Speaker 2: the future. I know as a giantsman, this team is

504
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Speaker 2: never going to be that bad. They're always bad enough

505
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Speaker 2: where I never get to brag about them, but they're

506
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Speaker 2: never good enough where where I actually get to be

507
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Speaker 2: excited about them. So like, they're never the worst, but

508
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 2: they're never the best, and that's what makes them annoying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, to your Pointial, three of the last four

510
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Speaker 3: games for the Giants are at home, but they have

511
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Speaker 3: a stretch from the nineteenth of October until the first

512
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Speaker 3: of December where they play two home games and the

513
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Speaker 3: home games are against Green Bay and San Francisco, and

514
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Speaker 3: the road trips are Denver, Philadelphia, the Bears, the Lions,

515
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Speaker 3: and the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Like those are really hard road trips. They did. They

517
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Speaker 4: have the hardest schedule on paper in the NFL. You

518
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Speaker 4: don't see that.

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Speaker 3: Normally for a team that was as bad as the

520
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Speaker 3: Giants were last year. So whoever they ticked off in

521
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Speaker 3: the league office, they got enemies there.

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Speaker 2: You're precings for the choir here, dude, your precis to

523
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Speaker 2: the choir. This has been my reaction for a long time.

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Speaker 3: By the time they get to those meaningless games that

525
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Speaker 3: don't matter, this season may already be lost and they'll

526
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Speaker 3: be better off tanking and losing than after the bye

527
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Speaker 3: week when they have three out of four at home. Okay,

528
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Speaker 3: they win half those games, they win four games, they

529
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Speaker 3: go under five and a half like that. That's I

530
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Speaker 3: can see that entirely. By your point, I could see

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Speaker 3: them winning two of the last four games and feeling

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Speaker 3: good about themselves going out. But they've won two games

533
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Speaker 3: before the bye week. So that's the problem for the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Their performance in the division is gonna determine whether you

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Speaker 2: win or lose this. If you masg this, it's because

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Speaker 2: they it's because they won three division games because three yes, yes,

537
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Speaker 2: because there's no because they because Dables never beaten the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: and so in a down here the Cowboys, if they

539
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Speaker 2: actually have a roster where they could put it on

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, I believe that they are going to plait

541
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Speaker 2: on the Cowboys. And then it's a weird dynamic with

542
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Speaker 2: the Commanders where the Giants give the Commanders they're like

543
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Speaker 2: really really tough games and I could seal them see

544
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Speaker 2: them randomly stealing a game there.

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Speaker 1: Didn't they have like a twenty field goals in that game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yes, and they didn't have a kicker. They

547
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Speaker 2: would have won that earlier game if they had a kicker,

548
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Speaker 2: Like freaking idiots of an organization. But uh yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: that's that's where I see it. It's them, It's the

550
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Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Commanders. You gotta get swept by the

551
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Speaker 2: Commanders for this to go on there. If they steal

552
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Speaker 2: won from the Commanders, that's going to be really annoying,

553
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Speaker 2: And then they have to play well against the Cowboys.

554
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Speaker 2: If the Cowboys just continue to beat up on the

555
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Speaker 2: Giants as they always do, then yeah, this is dead

556
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Speaker 2: in the water. But if the Cowboys are as bad

557
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Speaker 2: as I think they are going to be this year,

558
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Speaker 2: then I think this is opportunity where the Giants say,

559
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Speaker 2: hey man, we don't ever beat this team. We got

560
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Speaker 2: to get the belt out real quick.

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Speaker 1: Next up, we have division winners where there are some

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Speaker 1: juiced favorites, including Buffalo to win the AFC East at

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Speaker 1: minus two thirty. You also have the Eagles to win

578
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Speaker 1: the NFC East minus one forty, the Ravens minus one

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Speaker 1: thirty five to take the AFC North again, and then

580
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are minus one ten to win their tenth

581
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Speaker 1: straight AFC West title as well. Pro Where are you

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Speaker 1: heading in this market?

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Speaker 3: So in the NFC East, no one ever repeats, so

584
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Speaker 3: it's not the Eagles. Canna find somebody else to win

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Speaker 3: the division. I'm taking the Commanders. I get plus two

586
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Speaker 3: to fifty, plus two to forty somewhere in that range

587
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Speaker 3: for the Commanders and to have Jayden Daniels take a

588
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Speaker 3: big step forward.

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Speaker 4: I like what they did in the draft. I like

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Speaker 4: their schedule a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think they have a really good chance of going

592
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Speaker 3: five and one in the division, and if they do that,

593
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Speaker 3: they're gonna win the NFC East.

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Speaker 4: So it's a value play for me with this.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna be the Eagles because no one ever

596
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Speaker 3: goes back to back in that division.

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Speaker 4: Give me the Commander.

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Speaker 3: Is that two dollars or better to come in, And

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Speaker 3: as long as Daniel's doesn't get hurt, he stays upright,

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Speaker 3: stays healthy, Commanders should be right there to win the division.

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Speaker 1: Trell, take us to the AFC with your favorite division winner.

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Speaker 2: Bet yeah, I'm back over. If Burrow's gonna win the MVP,

603
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Speaker 2: he's gotta win the division, and so give me the

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Speaker 2: Bengals at plus two thirty right there. The only resistance

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Speaker 2: I feel here is the Ravens, and seeing what the

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Speaker 2: Ravens do. The Ravens just lost their safety out for

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Speaker 2: the season. We'll see if the defense will talk. We

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Speaker 2: talked about real con Smith and we'll see if he'll

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Speaker 2: be able to, you know, go move forward. It felt

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Speaker 2: like he took a step back as the defense took

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Speaker 2: a step back. And so if that defense is not right,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is gonna have the ability to carve them up.

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Speaker 2: And I know this Bengals team is forming at the

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Speaker 2: mouth at a chance to be able to knock off

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Speaker 2: this Ravens team for the division. I think that this

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Speaker 2: is a get up year for the Bengals where they

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Speaker 2: where they just go out there and they have some

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Speaker 2: electric offense and if they just get anything better than

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Speaker 2: what they got defensively, then they're gonna be a way

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Speaker 2: better football team. So I'll take a shot in on

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Speaker 2: the Bengals just going out there having a good year,

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Speaker 2: nothing spectacular. I don't know. I don't know if they're

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Speaker 2: going to be able to do anything in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: but a good regular season, then I think they could

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Speaker 2: take the division.

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Speaker 1: They need Hendrickson back, man, they need him back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that could be really more.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean you need more than that. You need

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Speaker 4: him and needed more yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Need a secondary too. Their secondary they just just don't

631
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Speaker 1: invest enough in it anymore.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: I got a long shot for you guys. I'm taking

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings to win the NFC North. I took

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Speaker 1: this back in March at plus five fifty at fandle

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Speaker 1: it's now down to plus four to fifty. I still

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Speaker 1: really like that number because this is a team coming

638
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Speaker 1: off a fourteen and three season, one game away from

639
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Speaker 1: being the number one seed in the loaded NFC, and

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Speaker 1: I still think the Vikings are very much all in.

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Speaker 1: They re signed Aaron Jones, They upgraded the line, one

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Speaker 1: of their biggest weakenss Ryan Kelly will Fries. They come

643
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Speaker 1: over from Indy in free agency. They also draft Ohio

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Speaker 1: States Donovan Jackson in the first round. They added Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Allen Javon Hardrave to the d line that was already

646
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Speaker 1: pretty good from last season as well. And I think

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Speaker 1: outside of this secondary, the Minnesota Vikings are one of

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Speaker 1: the most complete teams in the league. Twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year Kevin O'Connell thirty four and seventeen record.

650
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Speaker 1: My question is, and I think everyone's questions. JJ McCarthy, Right,

651
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: I've always been high on JJ McCarthy, so I'm gonna

652
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: back him here. I think he would have been the

653
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: QB one if he was in this class with cam

654
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: Warden company. And I also think like this is very

655
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: much a fade against the rest of the division. Lions

656
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of question marks on defense. Still, they

657
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: lost OC Ben Johnson, DC, Aaron Glenna head coaching positions Packers. Still,

658
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: I think they have a bad secondary as well. They

659
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: went one and five against the MC North last year

660
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: and the Bears, well, I think it will be a

661
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: nice bounce back season for him. I think they still

662
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: got to get their feet under him in the Ben

663
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: Johnson era. So give me the Minnesota Vikings to win

664
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Speaker 1: the NFC North. I've at plus five fifty, but you

665
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: can still get it at plus four fifty. And any

666
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: liking of that prol.

667
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I like it a lot. I mean,

668
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: especially the value on it. I like it a lot.

669
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Speaker 3: I think that there's obviously the question you mentioned it

670
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: with JJ McCarthy. Yeah, keeping him healthy, it's going to

671
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: be a gigantic question about you know, does he want

672
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: to run as much as he did in college and

673
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: can he take the punishment?

674
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: Can he take the.

675
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: Hits, true, but he's throwing to the best wide receiver

676
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: in football.

677
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: So it helps.

678
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: I mean that really helps.

679
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: So you've got a guy that you know on any

680
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: given play he can go to the house for you.

681
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: We know what that defense can look like, we know

682
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: how hard it is to play at Minnesota.

683
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: And I think you're right. I think the Bears are

684
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 4: going to look better.

685
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: But all this Caleb Williams, he tried to not play

686
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: for them, UFL conversation, that's.

687
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 4: Not what you want to be talking about.

688
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: You don't want to have that conversation in May that

689
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: your quarterback's father says that the Bears is where Chicago

690
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: is where quarterbacks go to die. As quoted in the

691
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: new book about Caleb Williams, that seth Wickersham wrote, So

692
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: that is you know, I have a big circle on

693
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: the Bears going don't touch this for a while to

694
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: see what that team with that team looks like. The

695
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: Packers are going to be the Packers. I think the

696
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: Packers actually may be the team to beat in that

697
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: division if the Lions, if the Lions do take a

698
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: big step backwards. Just because I like Matt Lafleur a

699
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: lot and I think you're gonna see Jordan Love continue

700
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: to develop and play really well.

701
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: But the Lions questions their talents there.

702
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: But you're right, you lose both the OC and the DC,

703
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: and let's see what that looks like for them going forward.

704
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: And Jared goff at the end of the year and

705
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: the playoffs didn't go so well, so let's see how

706
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: he responds from that.

707
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: So I like to play a lot. I think there's

708
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: a lot of value in the Vikings.

709
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: Do you like KOC and the boys up there in

710
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota Trail?

711
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do. I think that the Vikings probably do

712
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: something similar to what they did last year, where everybody's

713
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: just underestimate, you know, and they just go out there

714
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: and just continue to win a bunch of games. I'm

715
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: very my thoughts, very interested in what this team looks

716
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: like defensively, especially if they're a pest as they were

717
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: last year and able to turn peoples over it there

718
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: as good as they were defensively last year, the sky

719
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: is the moon like as good as everybody's talking about

720
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: JJ McCarney, it was the defense that really really came

721
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: up for them over the course of the entire season,

722
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: and he had a lot of quarterbacks seeing goes. So

723
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: if that defense can be locked in again, then I

724
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: think they'll be smooth.

725
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's take the training wheels off and

726
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: get to our best value plays across all markets. Trell

727
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: hit us with what you have, all.

728
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: Right, Mister Jones is now the quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts,

729
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna fait that sorry, ooh, call it bias.

730
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: Think he sucks, Think he's a horrible quarterback, Think Anthony Richardson.

731
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: They're just not committed to him, clearly not committed to him.

732
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: And I mean he needs as many first team reps

733
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: as he can get. And if you're splitting these first

734
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: team reps with Daniel Jones of all people, yeah again.

735
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: I said that there were a couple of teams that

736
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: had ties to the Manning family that I felt like

737
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: we're gonna be tanking for arts that were not the Giants.

738
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Speaker 2: It's the Saints and it's the Colts. I think the

739
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: Colts to have the worst record at seventeen to one

740
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: is very interesting for a team that I think doesn't

741
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: have a quarterback. They are in the same boat offensively

742
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: as the Saints for me, and yet the Saints of

743
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: plus five fifty and the Colts are seventeen to one.

744
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: Best value. Give me the Colts to have the worst

745
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: record in the league, because I don't know if they're

746
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: gonna be able to score the ball.

747
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if Tyler Warren, who's probably you ask

748
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: people who my second rookie, I might say my second

749
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year pick would be If you're asking

750
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: me who I think the long shot for rookie of

751
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: the offensive rookie of the year, it'd be Tyler Warren.

752
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: He is perfect for that offense. He's going to put

753
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: up some mega numbers.

754
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Colts are going to suck, so he's

755
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 2: not gonna win.

756
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: I don't know how bad they're going to be.

757
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: The division sucks, so like that, that's the worry that

758
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: you're playing in a division that's.

759
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 4: Not that great. I don't I've never liked the Texans.

760
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: I think the Texans are still questionable when it comes

761
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: to Timiko Ryans as a head throw thing and so,

762
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: and then you have the I mean, I don't know

763
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: what the Jags are going to look like. I mean

764
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: that they obviously have got big question marks as to

765
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: what they're looking like as well.

766
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: So I'm not.

767
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: That would be my fear as always with any team

768
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: in the NFC West being the worst in the NFL,

769
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: is that the division is can be had. You can

770
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: go three and three pretty easily in the division.

771
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: Very very fair point. Don't hate that number though, seventeen

772
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: to one. I like that play though, Tree either way,

773
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: throwing it back to you for your favorite value play

774
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: across all markets.

775
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that this is a Homer pick, but

776
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: it's the logical one. The Patriots right now are laying

777
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: minus one forty at seven and a half half wins.

778
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: Don't do that.

779
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: Do over eight and a half wins for the Patriots

780
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: and take either plus money, even money or minus one

781
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: ten on them. Unlike the Giants, they play three of

782
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: their first four games at.

783
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: Home this year.

784
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: They have the third easiest schedule on paper. Their road

785
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: trips are to New Orleans to Tennessee. They're picking on

786
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: teams that they should be able to beat. The end

787
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: of the schedule is tough when they play Buffalo and

788
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: Baltimore and back to back weeks.

789
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: But I need them to go nine and eight. That's it.

790
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: With the quarterback and head coach with the defensive adjustments

791
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: that they have made, bringing back Josh McDaniels to be

792
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: their offensive coordinator, bringing back the guys who need to

793
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: the Patriot way coming in. This is gonna be a

794
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: hard nosed football team that's gonna be a pain in

795
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: the neck to play. They're gonna run the ball like

796
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 3: you know Tennessee used to like the Titans used to

797
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: get ready for Henderson and company to run the rock

798
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: like crazy.

799
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Speaker 4: And the defense is gonna be much better.

800
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Speaker 3: Nine and eight with the third easiest division over eight

801
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: and a half wins for the Patriots.

802
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: I like the Patriots a lot this season.

803
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: Man.

804
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: I think Drake May is the real I mean, he

805
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: was running for his life last year and still looked

806
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: like an NFL quarterback. I know a lot of people

807
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: have you know, been concerned about the footwork, but it

808
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: seemed fine to me last season. So I don't hate

809
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: this any love for the Pats from Utro.

810
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: No. I think the Pats are actually gonna be smooth.

811
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: Now.

812
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not one hundred percent all the way in

813
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: on Drake May. I think he's smooth, but I just

814
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: want to see a little bit more. But I don't

815
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: sure have any reason to like think that they're going

816
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: to be bad or horrible. I think five hundred is

817
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: slightly above five hundred. Ball Club is probably where they

818
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: end up.

819
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: By the way, the best debt is the Patriots in

820
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four were favored in zero games. The Patriots

821
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five are already favored in eleven games.

822
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, that is eleven. That kind of shows me

823
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: that maybe there's some value in like an exact order

824
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: for this division and putting the Patriots second right behind

825
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: the Bills, and then whichever way you want to slice it,

826
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: whether that's the Jets coming in third or I think

827
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: the wheels could fall off in Miami this year as well,

828
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: so I don't mind fading the Dolphins and putting them

829
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: third or fourth. So I do like the Pats call.

830
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: There.

831
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Speaker 1: I got one more long shot for you guys that

832
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: I know for all it's not gonna like this with

833
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: his disdain for the Giants, But give me Malik Neighbors

834
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Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year fifty to one. This is

835
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: something I took this back in March. I just looked

836
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: last week and it was still fifty to one as

837
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: of this recording, though, it is thirty five to one,

838
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: so I had a little bit opening line values, but

839
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Speaker 1: I still like thirty five to one because this is

840
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: a guy who took one hundred and seventy targets for

841
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and nine receptions twelve hundred yards, a boatload

842
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: of touchdowns as well, and now was playing with Daniel Jones,

843
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito, and Drew Locke. Now he gets Russell Wilson,

844
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: who say what you want about Russell Wilson, but he's

845
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: at least been good for his number one receivers in

846
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: the past, even when nothing was going right in Denver Courtland,

847
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: Sutton was at least a reliable fantasy guy. And I

848
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: think now that this is a pretty good spot for Neighbors,

849
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: even with Jackson Dark coming in. Like Dart was a

850
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: good enough quarterback that he got multiple wide receivers drafted

851
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: last month, including Trey Harrison round two, so I think

852
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: he can sling the pill down field a little bit.

853
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: I like that possible connection, And like, outside of neighbors,

854
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: what is it on this offense in terms of pass catchers.

855
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: It's Slayton who they just paid. It's Wandale Robinson, who's

856
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: you know, really just a Jag. It's Theo Johnson. He'll

857
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: be back in the mix after getting injured last season.

858
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: So Terrell, I'm taking a little flyer on your guy

859
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: neighbors here. Fifty to one now thirty five to one

860
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: at fandle No.

861
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: I think it's a good pick. Like I said, one

862
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: of the reasons I feel like the Giants are gonna

863
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: be not good but not horrible either is because of

864
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: elite neighbors. And he actually does have a quarterback and

865
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: whatever way you slice it, whether it's Russ, whether it's Jamis, like,

866
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: they're going to throw the ball deep and they're gonna

867
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 2: get the ball to him, and he's gonna have plenty

868
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: of opportunity. He's gonna have a million targets every single game.

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Speaker 2: He was setting NFL like he was top of the

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Speaker 2: NFL before he got hurt in targets, in receptions, and

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Speaker 2: so yeah, I think anybody like that is definitely fifty

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Speaker 2: to one on offensive play of the year. That's a

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Speaker 2: good value and whether it hits or not, you'll definitely

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Speaker 2: have a chance where you could cash out, you could

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Speaker 2: sell the ticket whatever. Midseason.

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Speaker 3: I can't figure out how the two of you guys

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Speaker 3: are saying the Giants have a quarterback and then you

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Speaker 3: list three quarterbacks, like, like, how is that clearly giants

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Speaker 3: have a quarterback but they Is it clearly?

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's clearly. Russell Wilson likes.

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Speaker 4: Russ is washed up. He's I don't I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm good. I got told you, I

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Speaker 2: don't like the room.

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Speaker 4: But for Milik neighbors, they have a quarterback, but they

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Speaker 4: better than.

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Speaker 1: Last year and that but that was a low bar, right,

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Speaker 1: Like that was the low bar. Like I would rather

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Speaker 1: take James Dart or Russ than any of the guys

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Speaker 1: that the Giants were thrown out there last year.

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Speaker 3: But it's gonna be musical chairs. This is the problem

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Speaker 3: when you've got three quarterbacks. The back pages in New York,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna freak out and Rush throws three picks and

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Speaker 3: he throws lollipop, you know, jump balls. They're gonna say,

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Speaker 3: play play Winston, and then Winston's gonna come in. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna suck, and they're gonna say, okay, play Dart, and

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Speaker 3: Dart's gonna come in and he's gonna suck. Like this

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Speaker 3: is why it sucks playing in New York with these situations,

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Speaker 3: because the back pages are gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Their worst nightmare.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anything like that for US is gonna

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Speaker 2: be like, if Russ doesn't play, it's gonna because Russ

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Speaker 2: got hurt. I have no problem using this job. I

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Speaker 2: really don't. If Russ doesn't play and I and I

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Speaker 2: predict an injury for US, I think Russ when he

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Speaker 2: gets to he's gonna play the game against Denver against

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Speaker 2: Sean Playton, and he's gonna play that game, and then

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Speaker 2: after that game, he's probably gonna get hurt after that.

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Speaker 2: But I have no faith in Russ continuing the season

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Speaker 2: being fully healthy. He's not gonna lose the job. He's

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Speaker 2: clearly the best quarterback on the roster. I'm just because

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Speaker 2: I don't like him as a person doesn't mean that,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't like his talent as a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And ultimately again, in the beginning of the season last season,

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Speaker 2: Leak Neighbors led the league in receptions and targets before

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Speaker 2: he got hurt. With nothing at quarterbacks, So anything here

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Speaker 2: is an upgrade. He's gonna have a better season, way

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Speaker 2: better season. This is a way too big of a line.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be shorter mid season and you can make

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Speaker 2: a decision there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hot, My hot take of the day is that Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jones is a better quarterback than Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Ooh okay, Well that is enough giants talk for one podcast.

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Speaker 2: That is that's just assert Let.

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