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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck at Dating with de Nungler and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going on Everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to an all new episode of help I

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<v Speaker 1>Suck At Dating. I um joined the Zoom a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit late today and I heard Jared going off about

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<v Speaker 1>something about Aquaman and Spiderman and it's just so frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>No what needs to hear this? But like a quick backstory,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months ago, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys heard, Henry Cavill got announced that he's reprising his

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<v Speaker 1>role as Superman, which I was very much anticipating and

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<v Speaker 1>very excited about because I really enjoyed Manistel and I

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<v Speaker 1>love Henry cavill playing the superhero playing Superman, and he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been in a movie quite some time because they've

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<v Speaker 1>made seventy four thousand Batman's which is okay, I love Batman,

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<v Speaker 1>but just give me my Superman. So they finally announced

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<v Speaker 1>that he's back. He made a cameo and black Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Henry Gavelo announced he went on all

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<v Speaker 1>this press tour. He was on UM seacrestin Kelly. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I heart Radio Seacrest tie right there and said I'm

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<v Speaker 1>back as Superman for future films, and then two months

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<v Speaker 1>later it's reporting that it might not happen, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>very frustrating and I don't need to I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to vent about it anymore. I never I'm obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>as big into the superhero comic book thing as you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember seeing Man of Steel, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I saw in theaters, which is pretty rare for me

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<v Speaker 1>to a c A movie in theaters and be for

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<v Speaker 1>it to be a superhero movie, because I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>big superhero movie fan. I saw me in the Steel

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<v Speaker 1>in theaters and this hasn't happened many times to me

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. I want to say three, maybe last

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe too. Don't tell me what I think. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know where this is going. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the very few movies where I really strongly

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<v Speaker 1>considered leaving the middle of the movie. Why it was

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<v Speaker 1>so so bad, I don't, honestly, my blood is boiling

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I don't want to talk about it because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna piss like. Here's the thing with that is,

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<v Speaker 1>if I had no pre understanding of Superman, which I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I do, but I don't, you know, like I have

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<v Speaker 1>the general idea of Superman's um origin story, lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had zero, that movie sets up absolutely nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, Lois Lane comes in. Oh he's

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<v Speaker 1>in love with her. When did that happen? I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. Hope she got lost in a tornado, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, Superman is always going to be there to

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<v Speaker 1>save her. It was it was lost in it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember that's that would be that part of it

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<v Speaker 1>was almost as bad as um the Avatar the Last

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<v Speaker 1>Airbender movie, And because that was the point in the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation when I can no longer take you seriously if

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<v Speaker 1>you're comparing Man of Steel to Airbender or whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>hell it is, Avatar the Last Airbender. Yeah, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>having this kind of For the record, I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the cartoons of Avatar the Last Airbender or

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<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, and the movie huge disappointment. Man

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<v Speaker 1>of Steel. I didn't have expectations and I was still disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's to say is about that. But I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to move on because I don't want you to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out through the screen and strangle me. Um. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, Jared, how are you. I'm good. Actually, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a hot topic including and involving a Batman Robert Pattinson.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we just get right into the first hot

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<v Speaker 1>topic because you know, nice little segue. So the star

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<v Speaker 1>of the New Batman movie, which I did very much

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<v Speaker 1>like Robert Pattinson, I didn't like it. I didn't love it.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I saw it. I thought it was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I saw it again and I liked it a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more. Can I say before you get before you

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<v Speaker 1>get into the hot topic. I liked it. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like about it was it was like, the

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<v Speaker 1>Riddler is his main enemy this movie, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>don't see the Riddler for like an hour and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, what happened to the guy that he

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be fighting against? Yeah, there's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my gripes in the movie is that there's just way

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<v Speaker 1>too much going on. I couldn't agree with you more exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>The Riddler has gone for a good like hour of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, and you're like, Okay, that's right, He's still

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie. Because there's just so much going on

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<v Speaker 1>with all these different characters, and it is far too long.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all down for a three hour movie. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm two and a half hours in and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, I'm feeling it, then you should have

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<v Speaker 1>cut the movie by thirty minutes. Anyway, Robert Pattinson and

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<v Speaker 1>Suki Waterhouse made their red carpet debut after five years

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<v Speaker 1>of dating. Can I also just have a little gripe

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<v Speaker 1>as well? Towards the English language? Why is the t

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<v Speaker 1>silent with debut? David? I don't know. That's two questions,

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<v Speaker 1>soft Tea, What the hell is? Why could you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>trying to learn English and reading that word? Why would

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<v Speaker 1>anybody read that word other than debutt? Day? But how

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<v Speaker 1>is that debut? I'm gonna google this real quick because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also curious. So anyway, while you google it, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>continue with the hot topic. Five years of dating, Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Pattinson Suki Waterhouse made their red carpet day. BEU, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure that they've posted publicly, have grown

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<v Speaker 1>out in public, and have had pictures taken in them.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, December three was the day that will live

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<v Speaker 1>in infamy where the Batman star Robert Pattinson and the

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<v Speaker 1>persuasion star Suki Waterhouse attended The Dire Men Fall If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that right, it's the three Show and Giza, Egypt. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty awesome. They walked to red Carpet together for

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<v Speaker 1>the very first time, and they've been linked since two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eighteen. The couple have kept their relationship as

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<v Speaker 1>private as possible, with which makes their debut all the

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<v Speaker 1>more special. So, Dean, two things. One do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any answers with us about debut? And two what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think of some of the benefits about keeping your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship private, especially you come from a public relationship as well? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>The debut thing, I think is just a mystery of language.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows why? Um? And the other question is keeping

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship private? Man? Props to props to Robert Pattinson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest, I don't know who Suki Waterhouses. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you no idea? Oh my gosh, she's beautiful though, I

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<v Speaker 1>just look through up. She's a model, and have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen Robert Pattinson. Of course she's beautiful. Robert Pattinson is

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<v Speaker 1>also very beautiful. Yes, I can only imagine. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be different for these like Megas celebrities because

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<v Speaker 1>I I would have trouble keeping a relationship secret. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for that is you go on a dating

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<v Speaker 1>show and the only thing people are interested in is

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<v Speaker 1>your dating life, and so you know, you do you

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<v Speaker 1>go to an event, that's all they're asking you is

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<v Speaker 1>who are you dating? Blah blah blah. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a podcast that like when I was single on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, I was dating people that I wouldn't talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like hard to talk about the past

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<v Speaker 1>tense in the current tense because like I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about being single now, I'm talking about having been single

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<v Speaker 1>three months ago. But then the person I'm dating here

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<v Speaker 1>is the podcast and like, well why are you talking

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<v Speaker 1>about being single on the podcast? And so then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>like either that comes to ahead and we had to

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<v Speaker 1>go our separate ways, or I had to come out

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<v Speaker 1>like there becomes like a point in the relationship where

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<v Speaker 1>you have to become public with it or you end

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship. So personally, I couldn't do it. That's why, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this maybe on this podcast. I've definitely

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it too, some of like my Bachelor Nation

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<v Speaker 1>friends where because entering a relation and I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Actually entering into a relationship with someone from

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<v Speaker 1>the show on the show is so much easier than

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<v Speaker 1>like soft launching people on Instagram and stuff having been

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, because like, oh, the world or the

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<v Speaker 1>audience gets to see you to be in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>publicly on their television screen and they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>like randomly hear about it on social media because like

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<v Speaker 1>people only there's so many people that only get their

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<v Speaker 1>news from not their news, but I'm sorry, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>relationship up to it's from television, whereas like people are

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<v Speaker 1>still commenting on my social media, which is funny because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously if they looked at my social media they would know,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still commenting on my social media, like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe Kalen's lived in the van for four years

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, well, no, she never lived in the van.

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<v Speaker 1>We just talked about that on television, and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you're using that information that you got four years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and just expanding on it up until now. So

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<v Speaker 1>all that to say, I I don't know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying actually, now that they think about it, all I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is I couldn't keep a relationship secret because it

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<v Speaker 1>always came to a head before that point, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very grateful that I don't have to do that anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>because some of the most stressful days of my life

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<v Speaker 1>were coming into this podcast, having to talk about being

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<v Speaker 1>single in Los Angeles when I wasn't single, and then

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<v Speaker 1>feeling the wrath on the other side of it. So

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<v Speaker 1>thankfully those days are behind me. Yeah. I mean, someone

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<v Speaker 1>that can relate to this, and there was actually an

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<v Speaker 1>All Sweekly article written about it would be Tasha Adams

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<v Speaker 1>because Dasia was obviously the bachelorette, and she will talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us weekly about her and the split between her

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<v Speaker 1>and Zach Clark and how they've really never publicly addressed it.

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<v Speaker 1>So keeping a relationship quiet is pretty hard. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>also talking about why you guys broke up it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>equally as hard because you get asked about it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. So I kind of want to read this

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<v Speaker 1>because tatious it's pretty interesting to me, She goes, My

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<v Speaker 1>biggest lesson was to remain true to myself, and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I did that. I'm really proud of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like some people called up in the mix

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<v Speaker 1>of everything and I think the best way, the best practice,

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<v Speaker 1>is just to be you. She's talking about dating advice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think with that all these things have come

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<v Speaker 1>and it just kind of finds out your your true self.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of talks about dating advice, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>addresses the whole Zach situation. Him and I both know

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<v Speaker 1>the truth and where we stand. And I've actually never

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<v Speaker 1>said anything in the media about our relationship except we're

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<v Speaker 1>no longer together. And I know people might think otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's literally the only statement we've ever given out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's just something about maturity and how we

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<v Speaker 1>decided to proceed. And at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>no one else need needs to know anything else. She

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<v Speaker 1>goes on to say, people really want me to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple relationships. My biggest priority. Truthfully, I've said

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<v Speaker 1>it before. I know people don't believe me, but it

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<v Speaker 1>really is just working on me, just kind of finding

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<v Speaker 1>my own way in New York City, but also focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on things that really make me happy, which our philanthropy efforts.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really loved the fashion industry as well, fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>my mental health, so uh interesting, you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>do have to commentation for her privacy, Like she sets

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good tone for keeping keeping that private, which

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<v Speaker 1>is really really commendable. Um. Who also did a really

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<v Speaker 1>good job was Claire Claire Crawley who, like she like

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<v Speaker 1>launched her relationship online with her boyfriend and then like

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<v Speaker 1>a month later they were engaged. And it's not because

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<v Speaker 1>they got engaged after a month of dating. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were like dating for a year and then she

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<v Speaker 1>just happened to like launch him on social media right

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<v Speaker 1>before they got gauge, And so she was dating this

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<v Speaker 1>guy for a long time and didn't really let anyone

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<v Speaker 1>know about it, which is very very commendable as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that we we I mean not to

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<v Speaker 1>take anything away from them. They did fantastic. We were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of putting a tougher situation because not only do

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<v Speaker 1>we also have the social media like they have, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have this podcast which I love this podcast to death.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll die for help. I suck a dating and stuck army.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were, like I always say, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>times like and you can attest to this, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what you have to say about it too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like before you and actually started dating and you were

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<v Speaker 1>hosting this podcast. Granted, you weren't quite as much of

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<v Speaker 1>a philanderer as I was. You were always like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he really dated that much in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a little bit easier for you. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of stressful coming onto this podcast every

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<v Speaker 1>week talking about your dating life when it was very unstable,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Oh yeah, I mean the good news for

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<v Speaker 1>me was that pretty much it's coming on this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>for me started to host simultaneously aligned with Ashley and

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<v Speaker 1>I being together. So I've kind of always been a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you talk about Can talk about that for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, because you and actually didn't renounce your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>until like six months in. Well, we wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we it was exactly what we thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be when we first got together before we

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<v Speaker 1>announced publicly, because it would have been it's ridiculous of

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<v Speaker 1>us if we dated for a week, posted about it

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, and then broke up two months later,

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<v Speaker 1>with all the baggage that we had with our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>When we started dating, I mean, we had a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good idea this is gonna be a forever type thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course when we knew that it was that

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<v Speaker 1>was the case, you know, three or four months in

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<v Speaker 1>that's when we decided to come out publicly with our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's hard to especially coming from a bachelor's standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, we come from this dating show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really what we're known for, what people really care

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<v Speaker 1>most about us. It's kind of like a business decision.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've talked about it before on this podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley and I, you know, whether it be doing brand

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<v Speaker 1>deals together, posting you know, uh, paid advertisement, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being so insecure about it in the beginning because

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<v Speaker 1>it felt an authentic not not like the product it's off,

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<v Speaker 1>but like to do it together. I was like, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>people are just gonna think we're not a real couple

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<v Speaker 1>and that we're faking it. And you know, she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>who cares what people say? Like we know the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all that matters. I said, all right, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good point. Actually. So it's hard because there is

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<v Speaker 1>that balance between you want to keep things private and

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<v Speaker 1>play some things close to the chest, but also for

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<v Speaker 1>us with this podcast and with social media and the show,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a little bit like, you know, people want

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<v Speaker 1>to know about our dating life, so it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of like quote unquote business to us, which

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<v Speaker 1>is wacky to think about, right well, and for us

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<v Speaker 1>to not only do they care about our dating lives,

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<v Speaker 1>but brands that want to work with us would weigh

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<v Speaker 1>rather incorporate our significant others into the break into the

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<v Speaker 1>ad because it just gets more attraction. I guess, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who gives a funk about us? Man? Yeah, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to the jingle Ball last week and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that in Los Angeles jingle Ball I heard

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Festival put it on with Capital One. You're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much like an influencer at this point. Bro, you walked

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<v Speaker 1>the red carpet, you were a jingle ball taking picks.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked in that red carpet. It's the first red

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<v Speaker 1>carpet I've walked in, Like who knows how long, two

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<v Speaker 1>or three years it They cared so much less about

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<v Speaker 1>me than I remember them caring about me in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, and I like, you know, you do

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<v Speaker 1>a red carpet at least like four years ago, fresh

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<v Speaker 1>off the Bachelor, that you would do like eight interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>take a bunch of pictures, and then they would like

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<v Speaker 1>usher you away. They bring into like a swag room,

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<v Speaker 1>give you a bunch of free stuff. I walked up

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<v Speaker 1>with Kaitlin Killen looks fantastic, I look like a bum

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<v Speaker 1>per usual And they were like killing takes a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of pictures, and so she walks out and takes a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of pictures. I walk out, takes a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>pictures with her, and then like no one asked me

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<v Speaker 1>for a picture around myself, which is good. I took

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<v Speaker 1>a couple, but that wasn't important. I don't want that. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>we did two interviews and then we left, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that we were completely like brushed behind the carpet, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine, but it was so interesting because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>those red carpets being way more chaotic and high energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't really like that. But all this to say,

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<v Speaker 1>jingle ball. We went there and it was a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw Dualipa, Jack Carlo Um, Oh, this guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked, what was his name? Um crap, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna remember. I really like Deve Cameron. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's other there's other guys something Louis Capolli, Louis Capaldi.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so good. If you haven't heard this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to listen to him. He is so talented

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<v Speaker 1>and hilarious. Anyways, this goes back to what you just said. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was what I thought was a child like a

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<v Speaker 1>kid's event, like the I think the age range in

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<v Speaker 1>my head was like ten years old to sixteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>like that was like their target demo for this event.

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<v Speaker 1>And even like the kids in front of us were

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<v Speaker 1>like these younger boys who were dancing all the TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>songs and filming each other, having a blast. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was great to see every artist that went on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Pit Bull was there, freaking pit Bull. Um. Every artist

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<v Speaker 1>that was there was like up on stage, cursing like

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<v Speaker 1>a drunken sailor, like dropping f bombs. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking around and I was like, there's little kids next

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<v Speaker 1>to me. This is really like kind of out of

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<v Speaker 1>control for an iHeart radio events. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go on record and say that I think that we

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<v Speaker 1>should have uncensored F bombs and what you just said, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>that should not get censored. In my opinion, judging by

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<v Speaker 1>the criteria, that I hurt radio, now I step forward

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Yeah, but it's gonna hurt advertising. So I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather not. Um, we have to be a family show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for the kids. We we do it for

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<v Speaker 1>the kids. Dude, What was I going to say about

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<v Speaker 1>jingle Ball? Oh? I was talking about the Red Carpet. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny because honestly, it is crazy. How when

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<v Speaker 1>your first off the show, it's like E and Entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>to nine and access to Hollywood and Good Morning America,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go to the Red Carpet years later

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, hey, the Cleveland Gazette, Jared, come talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us, like, oh, I would love nothing more. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>please ask for me. You're like, you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me? Oh my, I'll talk to you for an

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<v Speaker 1>hour if you want. What do you want? And then

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<v Speaker 1>they asked us like they asked us like two questions

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<v Speaker 1>each and it was like literally thirty second interviews. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like, all right, see you it's always

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<v Speaker 1>about other people. They're like, do you have anything about

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<v Speaker 1>the Victoria a great thing? You're like no, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know him. They're like, okay, you have a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>all right bye, thank you. Unately, we have a we

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<v Speaker 1>have a fresh engagement. So they asked us at least

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<v Speaker 1>like pertinent questions, but it was. It was a sobering experience,

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<v Speaker 1>not in a bad way, not in a bad way.

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<v Speaker 1>And even I just got a haircut yesterday and the styler,

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<v Speaker 1>the hair cutter, the stylist was she's like, your your

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<v Speaker 1>Dean from The Bachelor, right, And I was like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I was on that show. And she's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>must get recognized all the time, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no, I don't. I did a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get maybe like one person two people a

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<v Speaker 1>month that are like, hey, you're that guy. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely died. Hey you're that guy. Bro. I'm like, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>I am this guy. I'm the guy. I am a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Dean Um. But yeah, so that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>my little soapbox. I guess about. I heard Radio Music Festival.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a blast. If you guys have the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to go, you have to go. It was very very fun. Um. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into so we're gonna have callers this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually we do two episod it's a week we have

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<v Speaker 1>the callers on Thursdays. But we don't have a guest today,

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<v Speaker 1>so we figured let's bring on three guests a k

0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the callers on this podcast, So we're all going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it this week today, callers best part of the

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<v Speaker 1>episode are coming up. We do have some dating trends

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to get into, the top eight dating

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<v Speaker 1>trends of two heading into But before we do that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break. All right, welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>help I suck at dating Dean and myself. We have

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<v Speaker 1>some callers coming up to answer your questions about dating.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we do that, I didn't want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>this article that I saw in Mashable, the top eight

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<v Speaker 1>dating trends of twenty two. Luckily this doesn't really affect

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<v Speaker 1>Dean and I because we don't date anymore. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>like do you go on dates with Kalen? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys plan dates? We get dinner at a restaurant four

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<v Speaker 1>times a week, the same restaurant. Oh no, but we

0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.920
<v Speaker 1>go on like dinner dates. You go on dinner dates

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<v Speaker 1>four times a week? Yeah, that's it's it's a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of like going on dates and just being lazy because

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<v Speaker 1>we hate cooking for ourselves. Um has she has been

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<v Speaker 1>eating chicken lately, so she's been vegetarian for the past

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<v Speaker 1>three years, and she's getting into chicken because she wants

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<v Speaker 1>the protein content. And she's been cooking a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more for us, which has been delicious. Oh and I

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<v Speaker 1>just bought us tickets to Avatar Way of Water next weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>which that'll be exciting. Max. I don't know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so, Actually, you should go see it. I yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to come. I want to see it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a three hour epic. I'm you love the

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<v Speaker 1>first Avatar, right, I love that. That was the first.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done it more since then, maybe like two or

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<v Speaker 1>three times. It was the first movie I ever saw

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<v Speaker 1>in theaters twice really, yeah, that's how much I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good. It's so and I'm like, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of a billion people that say this, but it

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<v Speaker 1>it was so good, and I don't I often I

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<v Speaker 1>think it. It really goes overlooked as one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best movies of all time. And I know you might

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<v Speaker 1>scoff at that because you are, you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a little more culture and and like you're more refined,

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<v Speaker 1>even more sophisticated within the film industry, I'd say, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine, and that's fine, But as like a non

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<v Speaker 1>informed person that watches movies. I do think it should

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<v Speaker 1>be in the conversation for best movies of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely top ten, it's probably top five. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you could argue top three. So I think it should

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<v Speaker 1>be more in the conversation because whenever you ask someone

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<v Speaker 1>what their favorite movie is, I don't think i've ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard someone say Avatar. No, it hasn't. Uh. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he gets too much heat now because I think it's

0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>people just like being contrarians. So when it came out

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<v Speaker 1>and got all this buzz and then it became the

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<v Speaker 1>highest coursing film of all time, I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>almost cool to be in the opposite category, which was, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that good, it's overrated, and that kind of

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.040
<v Speaker 1>caught on. But it's a great movie. It's I'm excited

0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to see a sequel. It was funny because a buddy

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:01.439
<v Speaker 1>in and whose single, He is a younger guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like talking about he wants to ask this

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<v Speaker 1>girl out on a date and he wants to take

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<v Speaker 1>her to a movie. And he's like, oh, when Avatar

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<v Speaker 1>comes out and take her to that, I'm like, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>are you out of your mind? You're gonna take this

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<v Speaker 1>girl on a date, a first date, to a three

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.439
<v Speaker 1>hour movie Avatar, a movie that you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to, and she probably doesn't give two rats

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<v Speaker 1>asses about no, no, don't go. You go if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to a movie, which I don't think you should

0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:30.320
<v Speaker 1>go to a movie on a first day anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you want to, you gotta go to

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<v Speaker 1>like an hour and a half movie. I gotta be

0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:40.440
<v Speaker 1>in out, quick, fast, good popcorn movie. Hey that was cool,

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:42.440
<v Speaker 1>even a horror movie. I think it's probably the way

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<v Speaker 1>to go because they're they're always short run times, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, it's more of an experience because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the jump scares and you're like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to like, you know, focus in on the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>God forbid, Dude, she talks during the movie on a

0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 1>first day, you're gonna tell her to be quiet. It's Avatar.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to watch the whole thing. To issue with

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<v Speaker 1>a hour movie, the biggest issue in my opinion is

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<v Speaker 1>you have to catch like an early afternoon showing, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you go like an eight pm showing and it's

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<v Speaker 1>three hours long, I don't care how into the movie

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<v Speaker 1>I am at ten pm. I'm like, get me out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. I gotta go to bed. Seriously, it needs

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<v Speaker 1>like an intermission almost, it does need an intermission almost.

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<v Speaker 1>So I booked us the four pm showing, so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>report back August. What next next week? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, well wait want, I'm so sorry. I meant December.

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Good God, next week. I guess there's no. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I actually don't miss about living on

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<v Speaker 1>the West coast or where a place where it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I can feel the change of the

0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 1>year by weather here, you know, in l A. I

0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:47.120
<v Speaker 1>never really felt that because August it's warm. But like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, December is the same as May and June,

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and June is the same as August, and September is

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<v Speaker 1>the same as April. Here it's different. Like I walk outside,

0:22:56.160 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who, so this is a chilly December nine. Yeah.

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I love that there are days here in l A

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>where you're like, oh my god, it's fifty degrees and raining.

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>This sucks. But that's as bad as it gets, you know.

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>And then the next day it's seventy two and sonny

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and you're wearing shorts and a short sleep shirt all

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<v Speaker 1>day long, so we definitely have it. Definitely changes a

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<v Speaker 1>small bit, but definitely not as as major as it

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>does out there. Um, Vegas has been very cool lately,

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 1>but no snow. Fortunately, you should go to the Raiders

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>game when they play the Paths at home, they'll be

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. Um all right, Before we get into the Callers,

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<v Speaker 1>we do want to run through these eight dating trends

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>of twenty two. So the first one is saving time

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and money with Zoom During the pandemic, obviously some people

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 1>opted for virtual dates on Zoom. It's still a dominant

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<v Speaker 1>dating trend, as dating coach and e Harmony relationship expert

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Laura House said, people are much more protective of their

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<v Speaker 1>time now. Virtual dates make first dates lower stakes. They

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<v Speaker 1>do save time and money, though, but it serves as uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it serves daters as a gauge over whether they actually

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<v Speaker 1>want to meet someone in person. So that's still a

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<v Speaker 1>big trend. I don't know. I guess if you think

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm not. I think the dating the

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Zoom day is over. I have a big advocate for

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>being in person with someone. There's certain feelings and vibes

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>that you can get when you're in the same room

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 1>with someone that you can't get over the screen. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a connection, you know. You don't get those things over

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the screen. Like, of course zoom was great. During the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>We couldn't be together, we had to be six ft apart.

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>It was we would rather be safe, But now I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'd rather just like, let's go on a

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>day and let's get coffee. And if it sucks, it sucks.

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's at least hopefully I get a good

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 1>story out of it. That's my two stapes. No, I

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>wholeheartedly agree with you. I took a I took a

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>weed patch last night as I was falling asleep and yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been sick lately, so I did it to sleep

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>better throughout the night. And as was falling asleep, I

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>randomly had this thought pop in my head that remember

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the pandemic when everyone is like

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<v Speaker 1>the world will never go back to the to the

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<v Speaker 1>way it was before the pandemic, and I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>my head, I was like, we're kind of there, Like

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 1>everything is basically as it was, minus like some supply

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>chain stuff, and like the global economy is a little

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>bit more left up now, but like your day to

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<v Speaker 1>day life more or less is the same. In my opinion,

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 1>mine is at least, like I don't feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>inhibited at all because of the pandemic as it was,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that when like people were saying that

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>we were never going to shake hands again, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that went away fast. It's it's it went away so fast.

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Everyone has kind of resumed per like status quo. So

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.959
<v Speaker 1>as far as dates go, I agree with you fully

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that zoom dates I can't believe. I can't believe that

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>they were a thing. And it's great. I I personally,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was saying goal in the middle of the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>would have never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>ever done a zoom date. That sounds so miserable to me.

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's not. It's like it was necessary. You know,

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 1>people needed connection, people needed conversation, especially if they were

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<v Speaker 1>quarantined by the cells. But damn, it's not the ideal

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 1>scenario it was. You know, you kind of had to

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<v Speaker 1>just go through survival mode there and figure out what

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you needed to do to get through. But now it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't advocate zooming anymore, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>here's the other thing. People will say, Oh, you should

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>zoom with the person to see if they're creepy, and

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like, if you think, like you probably know if

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<v Speaker 1>someone's creepy or not prior to any type of zoom

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>meaning you know, so if you think they're creepy, to

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>stay away. There was one girl many years ago that

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<v Speaker 1>lived in San Francisco. I lived in Los Angeles, and

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>we met through like a mutual friend, but we had

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<v Speaker 1>never met in person, only on social media, and I

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<v Speaker 1>like was really interested in getting to know her, and

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<v Speaker 1>somehow we got on to the point where I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to fly up to San Francisco for the weekend

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and like stay with her and like have like an

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>extended date in San Francisco with her, and I like,

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>as the day was drawing closer, like this was like

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>a Thursday, I left on a Friday. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm flying to San Francisco to spend a weekend with

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>a person I've never met in person. That's weird, and

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>we need to like ensure this is not gonna be weird.

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>So we set up a zoom date before and it

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>lasts like three minutes, and it was basically just like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a real person. Oh you're a real person. That's

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:36.439
<v Speaker 1>good to see. You can talk normal to me, and

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I can talk normal to you. That's good. Like, that's

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>as far as I'll go to the point where I

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine like zooming for hours with someone that I'm

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>interested maybe in dating. I don't know, it just seems

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy to me. So yeah, but I see that,

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 1>I could see that, I could see the practical appeal

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>of it, like especially like you were saying, people were

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>like starving for connection at the time. But is this

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>article saying that zoom dates are still a thing? Oh yeah,

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>they say it's a dominant dating trend. Yeah, cultural dating

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>is still a dominant trend. I don't know. I don't

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>know because if if man, that's so tricky, it's it

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely works for the right person, But I do think

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>it kind of sets up a bad cycle of habits

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>later down the line. Like I personally wouldn't want to

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>be in a relationship that is dominated by like digital

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>like a digital thing. So if you're gonna be in

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 1>a relationship or all you can really do is zoom

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and I understand, like just break the ice on zoom

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 1>and then go from there. But like that kind of

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>sets a precedent later on where uh like face to

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>face isn't as important as like zooming. Maybe I don't know,

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe I'm wrong on that, but that's I just

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>don't love the love the whole concept. No, I agree,

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And the second one here, So we'll just do this

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>last one because we do have the colors out of

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>lining up. But we'll talk about this pretty quickly and

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>then we'll revisit this next week. We're hopefully we all

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>suck a little less finding love amid inflation we talked

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>about a little before. The economy is not the best

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>right now. So there's actually a lot of UH singles

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>out there in America that are a little nervous about

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>their financial situation when going on dates. So they said,

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>of the people that responded to this this pole, so

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>they want to spend fifty dollars or less on a

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>first date, that's pretty reasonable you can do. We talked

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>about it on this podcast. So many times you can

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>spend six dollars on the first day, just go get coffee,

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>chill out for a while, sit down. It's all about

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>conversation anyway, you don't need I know that our entire

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>culture is based around food and drink. It really is

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>when you think about it, because everything is based around

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>go getting a drink or coffee or food. But like

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>there are ways to do that and save money. So like,

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I get it. You know, it's they they actually talked

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>about also singles wanting to increase transparency or finances in

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the early stages in dating. That's something. Man, money is

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>just a tough conversation. But I get it because like

0:29:57.560 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I've had friends that have gone into been in relationships

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>of people who have not been open and on is

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>about their financial situation, and it's come back to bite

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>them and ruin the relationship pretty much. So it's tough.

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>There's like a balance like how early is it too

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>early to talk about cash and money and what you

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>have in the bank and how much money you make

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and then but you don't want to learn it too

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>late because then you know, once you start getting into

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>relationship and you're like, okay, let's start splitting the rent

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>or paying for food or like even got you know,

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>buying something together. It's a lot. Yeah, I remember when

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I was making forty dollars a year as a recruiter

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles. It was something I didn't really feel

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>comfortable talking about for the second I started making more money.

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Then I was waiting, like, it's weird, how if you

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>start making money that you're more comfortable with your way,

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>more open to talk about it, and if you're not

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>making as much as you want, you're like kind of

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>more hush hush about it. That was kind of my

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>experience at least, where I was embarrassed, I guess maybe

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>by the lack of money that I was making, and

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't really talk so candidly about it. But now,

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>like with Klin, for instance, I've never had any issues

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>of saying like, oh I make this much or oh

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.479
<v Speaker 1>I have this much money in my bank account. Um,

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's a little bit more of a stable figure,

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess than it was, you know, six years ago.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>So I can definitely see like the like it transparency

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>is really really important, But it also kind of like

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of other variables that come into it,

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like when you were when you were only

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>bartending in Los Angeles three nights a week, I'm sure

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't something you were super excited to talk about

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>with you. When I was on The Bachelor, ret Man,

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I was making forty grand a year and I went

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>on this show and like, I was like, dude, obviously

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to be with Caitlin, but I am neurished

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna pick me, and I have to admit that,

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not a rich man by any stretch of imagination,

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>so uh, we need to figure this out. Yeah, I love.

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I had the same thing with Rachel. I was like, dude,

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I take the bus to work. I you know, I

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>have three roommates, like all this stuff that I like,

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and then there's like Brian, who's like a successful chiropractor,

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>lives in his own house, and Peter, who you know,

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>has his own gym. I don't know. It was definitely

0:31:59.920 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a daunting mountain there, dude. I remember one time somebody

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>had I think I talked about the podcast. I would

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>say who was obviously, but they had to do a

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>wire transfer on while on the show, and we don't

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>have computers or phone, so they had to use a

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>producer there. And I don't know why I was in

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the room. Maybe it was like the breakfast room, but like,

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why he was like saying that he

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>needed to do a pretty large, substantial, like around seventy

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollar transfer, and you wanted to make sure it

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>went well. I was like, seventy thousand dollars. They have

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>seventy thousand dollars in their account. Oh my god. I

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm so screwed. And then of course, like

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I felt so insecure. I remember asking a buddy of

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>mine who was on the show. I was like how much.

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, do you have? Do you have a

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>good amount of savings? It's like, hm, I am I

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>really poor right now, like for what I have in

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the bank account, because I don't have nearly that much. Yeah.

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember before I moved to l A, I lived

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>with and I didn't live with my buddy that I

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>moved to l A with, But we were like hanging

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>out one night in Denver before we moved, like a

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<v Speaker 1>week or two before we moved, and he took like

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>forty dollars out of his A t M out of

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the A t M and it showed the balance on

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>his receipt and I like peaked at it. And you know,

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>we were like twenty three or twenty four, so we

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>were much younger at the time, he had like twelve

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>thou dollars in his checking account, and I was mind boggled.

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I was blown away. I was like, I didn't even

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>ask you. I don't even think I've ever even told

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>him that I saw that number, but I like literally

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>was shocked. I was like, how does someone my age

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>have so much money? And like, how was he not

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>spending all of it? I was, I don't know. It's

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely like finances, transparency very key, but there are

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>times in people's lives where maybe it's not something they

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about because it is a sensitive subject,

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what elso the sense of the

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>soldier before we get the joke, because we're you know, listen,

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>this is what we talk about here. We're very open

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and honest. So I don't know if you saw I

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>saw that. Like there. I don't watch the show, but

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>White loadus. There was an article that came out that

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy there apparently was a scene where he

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>was exposed, like he was totally nude, and it came

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>out that he was wearing a prosthetic to make his

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was talking to my buddy about it. I

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>was like that has to be a big penis. Well okay,

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the SOPHEO James, I don't really know. But anyway, I

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>saw that on barstool or something like that, and it

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>got me thinking because I don't think I've ever seen

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>another man's penis besides movies, and yes, I have seen

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>adult films in my life, so pornographic pornographic videos. Um,

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen another man. I don't think, like in person.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to think about it, so I was like,

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I have nothing to compare except like when I've googled

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like average penis size for a man, because obviously every

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>guy does that. But it got me thinking because then

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 1>like I I was like, I wonder, I think I'm

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was like, I think I'm okay,

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.959
<v Speaker 1>but like it's such a sensitive and insecure conversation because

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you see things on like white lotus and i'm and

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>then of course like I didn't look at it, but

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine what it looked like, And I

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, is that what women think is as normal? Size?

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that huge? Is that giant? Am? I do? I

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>not know what small or big is? I don't know.

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I got me thinking, man, where are you going with this,

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It got me thinking that I I

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to compare my own way except with what

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine are the biggest Yeah, you know

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Do I have a jaded sense of

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>what like a good size should be because I was.

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking about them, like everything else in

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>my life I can compare with, And I was thinking

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>about finances as well, because like I can have certain

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 1>conversations with friends about money and things of that nature,

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>but like I've never been like, Yo, what's what's going

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>on down there? How are you doing? You know? You know,

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just like I don't have anything to compare with.

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I've definitely snucked a few peaks in my life just

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>out of sheer curiosity. And I'm sure you're doing just fine.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>But there there were some, you know, like in high

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>school and like someone sleeps with someone and then like

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the rumors start circulating. And I remember there's this one guy,

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>best looking guy in school, slept with this girl who

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 1>he ended up dating, and she was like talking crap

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>about his his member and how small it was, and

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>she made a comment like it was like a pinky finger,

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, pinky finger I was like, and

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>then I was and then my whole life I was thinking, like,

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>not my whole life, obviously, but for a long time

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking like that's so small, like there's and

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like she had she was exaggerating. Obviously, there's no

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>way she was talking the truth. But you're right, like

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you go through so much of your life and like

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I had that information for like in my brain and

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, is that normal for a guy to

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>be like a pinky finger size? Because that it just

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it was mind blowing to me, and like, yeah, there's

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of not like misinformation, but we don't have

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like the craziest ever, there's not You're not gonna go

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>up to your buddies and be like, hey, can I

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>just see you like flash and real quick, like pull

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the pants down for a second. Man, I just need

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to know, yeah, because it's definitely something that, um, I

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Do you think we should talk about it more?

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because then of course you hear about

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>showers versus growers, And now I'm thinking, like, I like,

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I have an idea about what I think I am,

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:34.240
<v Speaker 1>but truthfully, I don't. I've also have I ever seen

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>like another man's just because I was never in the

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>locker room. Like I never really showered with other dudes,

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 1>so I've never really been in that environment. So like

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I know what mine looks like. You were

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>sit in front of a floor length like a full

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>length mirror, um butt naked and fully erect. No, I'm okay,

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>well I've done it. It looks very very weird. It

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>looks very weird. Yes, just like just to see, just

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>to see what you're like body composition looks like when

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you're like that, because it looks it looks weird looking

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>at yourself and seeing something like protrude out of you

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>in a way that doesn't look natural. It Just just

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>try it for me sometimes. Just the next time you

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>get out of the shower, just go and and do

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, just enough to get you to that point.

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>But don't do anything like silly or anything like that. Um,

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>but go stand in front of the mirror and just

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>look at yourself and like turn to the side and

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>like see your side profile. No way, this is not happening, dude.

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll just be so I'll be depressed for four months.

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're not gonna you know what you're working with

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it just is a funny way to see yourself. It's

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>just my body naked. It's just this is way t

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 1>am I. But just like I've never like I don't understand.

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I try to keep myself in good shape, but I'll

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 1>never understand the appeal of like just guys like because

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>like hair, you know, like I have hair on my

0:38:55.719 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 1>thighs and just like hair on my knuckles. That's why

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>it's funny to see yourself in that like very vulnerable position,

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>because it's just I don't know, it's you've done it.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I know you've done it, and I know you're just playing.

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Never I swear to God, I would tell you where

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>what we been talking about in this podcast for that

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes. I've never stood in front of not that

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I can remember. Like I've stood in a bathroom mirror

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously and seen from like you know, the thighs up,

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>but you're talking head to toe. I don't think I've

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 1>ever owned a full body mirror until I started living

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>with Ashley. As I was gonna say, Ashley's got a

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>few in the house. Oh, she definitely has a few

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>in the house. So now like, yeah, I could practically

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>do it there's actually one right next to me. But dude,

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>could you imagine if Ashley walked in on me as

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like standing there, what the hell are you doing? Like? Oh,

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about on the podcast. Don't worry about it.

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>You've got some homework for the next episode. Just do

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that for me, just one time and report back. Don't

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>give me details, but just tell me how it made

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you feel, because it's like, it's very very interesting. It's

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>not gonna make me feel good. Ashley just walked in

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>perfect time. Well, let's segue to the callers, and it's

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a good place to take a break. We're gonna take

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>one quick break and then bring in our callers. Be

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>right back, Yeah right, everybody, welcome back. We've got Joe

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>here calling in. Joe, are you there? Yeah? Yeah, how's

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it going, Joe? Thanks for calling? And what's going on today? Yeah? So,

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 1>just wondering, like, is it bad? Debate? Excuse me? Is

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>it bad to date your best buddies X? Yes? Yeah,

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 1>it feels it feels bad. I'm just gonna come right

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 1>out and say it. Yes, it's bad to date your

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>mean is it an ex like it's an ex girlferd?

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Or is it like he went on a date with

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>this girl. I mean he so he broke up with her,

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>like he wasn't feeling it. They've been broken up for

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like eight Yeah, it's been like eight months, and again

0:40:54.120 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>he broke up with her, and yeah, like, I'm I

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>like her, you know, so I think the most the

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>most important thing that you should do, if this is

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 1>something you want to do and you you like her,

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>like you say, is before you do anything, before you

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>even ask her out, before you even expressed any interest

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.760
<v Speaker 1>in her, you have to talk to your best friend

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 1>about it and okay with it? What did he say?

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>He's cool with it? But I'm still like, I'm still

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>not sure, you know, I don't know if he's like

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>just being a good friend, you know. I'm just I'm

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.919
<v Speaker 1>still not sure if it's the right thing or not. Yeah,

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I've definitely been in the scenario before. Um, and you

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you already have a leg up on me. I wanted

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to date someone that one of my best friends had

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>dated and didn't even date. They just like cooked up

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times, and I didn't ask him, not

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>ask for permission. That's kind of you know, misogynistic, I guess,

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 1>but kind of more like have him weigh in on

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the subject a little bit. Uh, And he got very

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>very very angry at me, rightfully so, and I do

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>feel guilty about it. So you've already got the leg

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>up on me in that sense. If he said it's okay,

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 1>then then yeah, then it's fine. Be gauys Like, if

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 1>he does get upset about something later on, you could

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 1>just be like, well, dude, you told me it was okay.

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>If you really didn't think it was okay, you should

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>have told me not to. So I think you're I

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's fine. Like like you said, if you talk

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to him about it and he's okay with it, I

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 1>don't see the issue. All right, Yeah, all right, thanks Joe,

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>thanks for calling this. Thanks thanks guys. All right. I

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>like when we have guys calling because I feel like

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>we get better advice to guys. Maybe not better, but

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>we have more like information to pull. First, well, we're

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>not as um sugarcoat. We don't sugarcoat our answers with

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the guys. Like girls was like, oh, well your goal

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>will be fine. You're doing okay. We guys were like, dude,

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>don't don't you out of your mind? Next up, we

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>have Brandon calling in, Brandon, are you there? Acting to

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the audio. He's got a very nice profile picture by

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the way, I don't think the listeners will be able

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to see this, of course, but very handsome man. And

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>he's got a cute little smirk smilee thing going on.

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>While we're waiting. There was a girl like him into

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Audrey's and she was so sweet and she was like,

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 1>just by the way, I'm a part of Stuck Army.

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hell, yes, hell, yes, you are so

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>so suck suck Audrey. She was so sweet, it was great.

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>So it was like, you know, blending Audrey's wild help

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>us suck a dating, which I do all the time anyway,

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>when we record from the office. I've recorded from the

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>office and quite some time we haven't. I haven't been

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>making eggs while recording this podcast in like a couple

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 1>of months. It's been pretty good. Do you know that

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it you have stopped that? Was that intentional

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 1>or are you just working less hours? A little bit

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>of both, A little bit both. I'm I'm dialing it

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>back a little bit because you know, Ashley will probably

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, throw me off the second story of the house.

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>If I started working if I was still working as much.

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>But um, definitely tone that back down. Plus it was

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>also intentional. It was probably not the best way to

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>record a podcast while being every two seconds being like hey,

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll definitely it definitely showed us your priorities and the

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>really hurt to see. But you know what, we moved on. Brandon,

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you finally connected the audio. How are you, buddy? Hi?

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that. I couldn't find the button. I'm doing good.

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>How are you guys doing You're good, You're good, We're

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>doing good. What's going on today? Okay, so I'm kind

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of dealing with a little bit of an issue with

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>this girl who I was trying to go on a

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>date with and she canceled last minute on me, and

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>then later on that night she posts on Instagram on

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>her story at the exact same place with a bunch

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>of her friends. Yeah. So I don't know why she

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>felt the need to lie to me, but she did.

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>She definitely didn't tell me that she's still playing on

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>going out with her friends. Like she called me earlier

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>on in the day and text me to see if

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I was busy and see if I wanted to go

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.919
<v Speaker 1>out with her. I was like, yeah, of course. So

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I rushed home, got ready, and then she sends me

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 1>a text like fifteen minutes at very get home, saying

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that she's feeling sleepy or whatever. And when I talked

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>about the phone, she definitely didn't sound sleepy, so I

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, whatever, And I was a little piste

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>off because I had to rush around and kind of

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 1>get ready, But that's fine. It happens, no big deal.

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 1>And then later on at night, I'm on my phone,

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm on Instagram, and then I see that she's posting stories,

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>so I click on it and she's literally at the

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>exact same restaurant that we planned to go to with

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of her girlfriends, having a good time, not sleepy,

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 1>not at home. And it's like, what, what the why?

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Why why lie to me? Why be childish? Why not

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>tell me directly? Let's have an honest converse. It's not

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:26.839
<v Speaker 1>that big of a deal, Like just be oh, I forgot,

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to go meet up with my girlfriends tonight.

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest, like, I have no idea what's going on.

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 1>She spurred the streets, Brandon, she spura the streets man,

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And to me, the hardest part is that like, now

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you're forever a liar, and now I can't trust anything

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 1>over something so small, like you can't you have to

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>lie over some tiny like that, I understand. I don't know.

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't understand lying to any to that degree,

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 1>at least I don't. I don't get it. Here's here's

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>what sucks in my opinion, is uh, because I've had

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>something like this happened to me before as well, and

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>all it did it for me was make me more

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>were interested in the person. So I hope for you

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>that that's not the case, because someone that's like disrespectful

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 1>like that is definitely not worth your time. What I

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>imagine happened is like she had plans to go to

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>this place with her friends, and her friends maybe like canceled,

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and so she was like, oh, maybe I'll just bring

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Brandon with me instead, and then her friends uncancelled, and

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>then so she canceled with you. That's kind of how

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I imagine it playing out in my head, regardless of

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.919
<v Speaker 1>how it happened. Not cool, And I personally think it's

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>like enough of a reason to kind of like stop

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>pursuing this person, you know. Yeah, it's just weird. It's all,

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just weird. People are weird, Like why lie about that?

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>What's the big deal? And not to mention she posts

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>on her storage, did you think she thinks she you

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 1>weren't going to see it? That's the other thing. It's

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>like you posted, you go out and of course you're

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna see it. That that's the issue. Is that okay,

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.879
<v Speaker 1>at least shot of me seeing it. I see it.

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Now I have to ask her about it. That puts

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>me in a weird situation. Now I have to believe

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>the lie that she's gonna tell me about story and

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>then and then now it's just why lie were We

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have to be like that, Like that's the main

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, women talk about what I don't want to

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>put generalize here, but I've heard a lot of women

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about communication and the importance of communication. Well then

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>why are you lying so much every for tiny little

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>things that don't matter, mundane things? And I know guys

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 1>do it too, but that's the core of it. People

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about communication and they're so full of crap about it. Dude,

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Brandon is bringing the fire. I like Brandon, I gotta ask,

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 1>what do you what does your gut tell you to

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 1>do with the situation. Do you think you want to

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 1>keep talking this person or do you think it's put

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to bed. I think it's put to bed once I

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>find out you're a liar. Now I'm questioning everything, and

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>why be in a situation where every conversation I'm like, well,

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that could be a lie, that could be a lie,

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that could be It's totally unhealthy. So now I have

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to just go, Okay, wash my hands by, see you

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>later onto the next one. I guess. Do you think

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna give her a chance to explain the situation? No,

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 1>because all, like I said, her explanation won't be She

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't look like she was sleepy and like her friends

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.799
<v Speaker 1>dragged her out because it was a birthday party or

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.319
<v Speaker 1>something like that. To me, it just looked like she

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 1>canceled on me and went out with her friends and

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>just had a good time and didn't have the goal

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 1>to tell me about it. And that's ridiculous. You're an adult, Like,

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 1>let's have a conversation, Brandon. I really appreciate you calling

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 1>in about this because it's it's not really a question

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, it's more of a venting session for you.

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad you can get it all out there. Um,

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I agree with I agree with you, Like any explanation

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:35.799
<v Speaker 1>she gives you, you're gonna in the back of your

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:37.759
<v Speaker 1>head be thinking the whole time, like, oh, I don't

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>believe any of the things you're saying right now. So

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I think that there's nothing she

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>can really say to amend the situation. And it sucks,

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 1>like it definitely hurts, Like you, you get excited, you

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 1>get dressed up, and you are looking forward to this day,

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and then she cancels, and then to even throw a

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>sault in the wound. Then she's posting stories from the

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>place that you were supposed to go together. So it

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 1>definitely sucks, Like I I don't envy the situation that

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you're in, but it sounds like you got a good

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 1>head on your shoulders in the sense that, like, you know,

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna stand for it, because if she's lying

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>about this this early on, what else is she gonna

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 1>lie about later on? And like, what else does she

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>have going on that she's not telling you about? So

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I agree with everything you're saying. Definitely a crappy situation,

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate you guys, listen to me and I

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 1>apologize if I was vancing a little too hard. Thanks guys,

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:28.359
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, best of luck moving forward, all right, take care?

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Thanks bye? That was great. Yeah, that was great. Call back.

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Please every week please co host with us. Actually, all right,

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Next up, we have Amy calling in. Hi, Amy, How

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 1>are you good? How are you guys? Good? Thank you

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:55.320
<v Speaker 1>for joining us. What's going on today? I'm just calling

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to get some advice from you guys. All right, what

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:01.359
<v Speaker 1>do you got? All right? So? Oh, um, I want

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to know how I can tell if I'm rebounding or

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>if I'm generally genuinely interested in someone, Because I broke

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:14.800
<v Speaker 1>up with my boyfriend about a month and a half ago, um,

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and we were dating for two years. It's been rocky

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:20.720
<v Speaker 1>for a while. But when I do start to date again,

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to show up as like the best person

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I can be and not use someone as a rebound,

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, um? And I just I guess I'm asking, like,

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>how can I tell the difference between using someone as

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a rebound and really wanting to pursue a relationship with

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>them and and like knowing them for who they are?

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 1>You know? Well, my gut tells me it was a

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 1>rebound if you dated your ex for two years into

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 1>only been a month and a half. I feel like,

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like a general rule would be for every

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>year you dated someone, it's gonna take like a good

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>three months, I'd say, to really jump back into a

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 1>relationship or it. So if you did it for two

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 1>you said two years, Yeah, two years, so you're only

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a month and a half into your six month yeah

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>after X thing. Yeah, Like, I know I've rebounded before

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:16.279
<v Speaker 1>because I had a relationship in the past where I

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.800
<v Speaker 1>dated someone right after and it felt so real, it

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:23.280
<v Speaker 1>was so infatuated, and then um, shortly after sleeping together,

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I quickly realized that I wasn't over my ex um

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and that had been eight months at that time. So

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I I personally think rebounding is totally okay to do.

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:38.280
<v Speaker 1>People rebound all the time for various reasons. Will Chamberlain

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 1>made a whole career out of rebounding. Dennis Rodmin Dennis

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Rodman the Worm. The Worm was one of the best

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>rebounders in the history basketball. I think rebounding is totally fine,

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and I I kind of agree with what Jared is

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:52.799
<v Speaker 1>saying where it's like, yeah, one month per year you

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>were dating share but also like there's never a timeline

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you can put on it, and if you meet someone

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:03.440
<v Speaker 1>soe and after breaking up with your X, I I

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:05.359
<v Speaker 1>hate the idea of saying, like, oh, I can't date

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you right now because I think it's too soon after

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>my last relationship. Like you should just you should date

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and do what feels natural. And yeah, some people might

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 1>call to rebound you and your head might think it's

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.280
<v Speaker 1>a rebound rebound, but like, at the end of the day,

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing what you want to be doing and

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 1>like dating a person you want to be dating, I

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:24.839
<v Speaker 1>don't really see the issue with it, Like there's there

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>there's no like there's no set structure on how long

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you should wait, and like it sounds like by by

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 1>labeling it a rebound, I think what we do is

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 1>like we kind of like explain to ourselves and make

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it right in our heads because the society has taught

0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>us that there needs to be a certain like cool

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>down period before we can date someone else. And like

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think that's the case. I think like

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you should just kind of do what feels natural, and like,

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>if you still have lingering feelings about your X, that

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 1>might be bad, but I think that's also pretty natural,

0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 1>especially if you really love the person, Like eventually those

0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>will fade and then eventually you'll, you know, you'll gain

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 1>feelings for whoever else. But I don't know, I don't

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's I don't think rebounding is as bad as

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 1>people make it seem. Here's a question for you, so

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 1>the new guy. Hypothetically, let's play a game where if

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 1>your X came back into the scenario and said I

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 1>want you back, would you take them back or would

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you stick with the new guy? Oh? Yeah, that's the question, right, Like, yeah,

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 1>if if your gut tells you I would take my

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 1>X back right now because I want to be with

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>them more, then you're probably not ready to move on

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 1>to a new relationship. Yeah, yeah, I hear you. That

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. But at the same time, too, she would

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe only want to take the X back because that's like,

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:36.879
<v Speaker 1>you have two years of time together, so you're way

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 1>more familiar with this person than you are with this

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>That makes this new guy a rebound, which is totally fine.

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But if you're if you don't want to use someone

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:50.360
<v Speaker 1>as a rebound, then I would say, you know, acts

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 1>off the new relationship if you would still get back

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:56.560
<v Speaker 1>together with your X. Yeah, that's that's fair, that's a

0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 1>that's maybe how we should start looking at that. If

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you think you're might be dating a rebound, then you

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 1>can kind of understand better in your head whether you

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 1>are not by deciding if you would take the X

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>back if they came back in your life. So I

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:10.640
<v Speaker 1>do kind of agree with that, but at the same

0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:13.839
<v Speaker 1>time to like, well, no, I guess you're right, Jared,

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I agree with you Dean, though.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think like there's anything wrong with rebounding either,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you guys are on the same page

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<v Speaker 1>and it's and you know that, Hey, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not ready for a relationship yet, but you know I

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<v Speaker 1>would still like to hang out. It is. It is

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<v Speaker 1>tricky if I were dating someone that was still hung

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<v Speaker 1>up on their X, like if they still thought about them,

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<v Speaker 1>they still love them, they still wanted to be with them,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be upset about dating that person. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think the most important thing is it's not the distinction

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<v Speaker 1>between a rebound or not rebound. It's the distinction of

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<v Speaker 1>are you still hung up on your X, because then

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<v Speaker 1>you're not putting all of yourself into the new relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of where I come from with that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, I got you. That's gonna be my

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<v Speaker 1>my like tester there go, you're like this test for

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're rebounding or not. Maybe thanks for calling in.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope we helped. Uh. I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 1>did or not, but no, buts what we do here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Um, all right, Well so no Thursday episode

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<v Speaker 1>this week on Jared. No Thursday episode this week, just

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<v Speaker 1>just once a week. Well, well, we'll get back to

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<v Speaker 1>our Thursdays next week once we are get our guests

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<v Speaker 1>back in line. Um, but you know, condensed week. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays. Man, everybody's taking some time off. We should

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<v Speaker 1>have like a like a listener of this podcast co

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<v Speaker 1>hosting episode with us. Is that possible? Can we get

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<v Speaker 1>something like that going? Let's talk to the higher ups,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk to our bosses. Oh yeah, they said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do it. Let's bring a sucky datter to

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<v Speaker 1>come in and co host with us. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>give him the email I would. I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>seriously do this, so email. I suck at dating at

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart media dot com or d M s on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us you want to call host an episode with

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<v Speaker 1>Dean and I and then we'll make it happen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds fun. That sounds like it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>real enjoyable experience for everyone involved. It could really go

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<v Speaker 1>off the hay wire pretty easily, but may better content.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all we strive for is to what we do,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole enjoyable, consumable content for the sucky dators out there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna do it. For this week's episode of Help

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<v Speaker 1>I Suck at Dating, Jared, I'm so sorry for offending

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<v Speaker 1>you about me on a steel, but I stand strong

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<v Speaker 1>in my conviction. Um. I will report back next week

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<v Speaker 1>and let you know how Avatar Way of Water is actually.

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<v Speaker 1>I think by the time we record this next week,

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<v Speaker 1>I will not have seen this and maybe two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>from now. Um. But thank you to our callers. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me try to remember the names, Amy, Brandon, Joe. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for calling in. We appreciate you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and if you want to co host an episode

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<v Speaker 1>with us, it's just spit ball here, just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>think on the spot. Give us a give us an email,

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<v Speaker 1>give us a d M he'll definitely not sound as

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<v Speaker 1>dumb as we do. I mean, that is quite impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite impot it's it's hard to do, and we

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<v Speaker 1>do that intentionally. Well, we want to set the bar

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<v Speaker 1>low that way you can come in and just step

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<v Speaker 1>right over it. So d M. S Email us I

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<v Speaker 1>suck a Dating at i heeart media dot com. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for listening to this week's episode. We

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate you. Be sure to tune in next week

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<v Speaker 1>where maybe we suck just a little bit less. Follow

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<v Speaker 1>help by suck at Dating on I Heart Radio or

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