WEBVTT - Sam Howell > Dak Prescott | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.280 Welcome to the Command Center podcast. I'm Logan Paulson. Here 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.200 is fred Smooth. I'm here and that is Santana Moss. 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:16.920 Guys, President, President, What you say when President Frederick? 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:17.479 President? 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.600 You guys get on that boat over memoring all day weekend. 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:20.640 You know, I stay off for both. 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:21.360 You stay up for boat. 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:23.760 I was waiting on Free to pick me up. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:26.640 He's alive, counting. 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:31.880 So I got a fun game for us today. All right, 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:37.080 it's called overthrown, underthrown on the money. Okay, I'm going 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.000 to provide stats to you four players on the Commanders, 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.159 and you tell me if that's way too high, if 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.880 it's underthrown, or if I am on the money. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:47.519 All right, gotch you? 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:52.320 Okay, So we're gonna start with sam Howell. Samuel Samuel Howell, Okay, 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:57.560 sixty six point three completion percentage two and sixty yards. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.920 This nice twenty three touchdown touchdowns and fifteen interceptions. What 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.319 do you think? Am I on the money? I think 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:05.000 I'm on the money. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.600 I think you underthrown this ball underthrown, and I think 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.119 this these stat line might get him fired. You know, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.800 I'm telling you this is not a good step. This 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.119 is not a playoff quarter. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.520 Bit it's like right in the middle. It's like, you know, 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:23.039 right around below average. It's like it's nineteen nineteen. It's 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.319 like Chakoby Brissett last year. 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.040 I know, I kind of could live with this. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.280 If we run the ball well and we got a 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.960 receiver two with a thousand plus yards, I can live 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:31.080 with it. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.440 I'm gonna give I'm gonna just I'm gonna caut myself 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:35.039 in the question. I think the yardage is a little 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:36.920 low this, but I think I. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:38.720 Like the picks. I don't like the fifteen picks. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.440 But I think he's a rookie. He's a rookie player. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:41.920 Yeah, but we don't want to see him in the 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.640 foot before shoot him in a hand, rather before he 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:45.600 get out there and throw a ball. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:50.320 So fifteen picks overthrown, underthrown, I say did though. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:51.040 I just don't like the picks. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.320 No, I say this is under thrown, under throw. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.400 Not enough yardage, not enough touchdown seventeen games. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.320 Think about this. If he has two. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.160 Thousand yard receivers Johann and McLaurin, he ain't got but 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:02.920 eight hundred more. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.920 He ought to get a tight ends in the running back. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.120 I see him going more like thirty eight, thirty nine, Yes, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:09.880 three thousands. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:11.520 I thought I could I could get on with like 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.040 thirty two to thirty five. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:14.799 I think you know, they gotta crawl when he walks, 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.360 So I'm I'm okay with the twenty. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.600 He was a massive passing wrong as the ball around 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:21.840 the yard at North Carolina. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.720 I know he did. I feel like he gonna say, 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:26.600 are they gonna give him the keys to the car 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.399 in the first year? Because right no, right now, this 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.440 is the nineteenth grated quarterback in the NFL. That's what 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:31.120 this stat line is. 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.760 And I think, I think this kid could be better, 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:34.720 and now he. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.840 Can be better. But what's he gonna be your one? 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.000 I don't think we're gonna spoon feed him like he's 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.440 a rookie. Okay, I just don't think. I don't think 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.280 coach b Enemy is gonnao. I think Coach Bingmy gonna 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.200 say get out here and do your job. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:47.960 So what if I told you that style line I 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.679 just said, yeah, was Dak Prescott's scout stat line for 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:52.200 last year. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.560 And I tell you he's stunk last year. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:56.440 He also missed a couple of games, So I think 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.320 I think that's why the yardist number is a little 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.320 low for me. Yeah right, But would you say, so what, 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.160 so what does this look like for him? You said 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.079 thirty five hundred? What you said? You said thirty nine nine? 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.120 Classic Fredswood. I think that's an overthrow. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.040 But here, I say just about it. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.799 At three thousand, he's going to have a heap of touchdowns. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.799 I say, I take some of the picks off. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.000 I understand a young guy hasn't you know, been out 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.760 there enough. He's probably going to have some of them 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.799 setbacks and throw some picks. But I don't want to 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.040 see fifteen, right, I mean, I'm not even gonna I'm 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:26.720 not even gonna put that in the air in the 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.600 atmosphere for him. And I don't want to see fifteen 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:29.280 put like this. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.440 Let me ask you something. Are these numbers good enough 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:33.559 to make it to the playoffs? 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.520 If the defense, if the defense is the top five, 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.400 twenty worst eight you've seen words, bro I have? 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.200 I mean, we didn't make it. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.000 I've seen a super Bowl team quarterback then then throw 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.360 for that many y'all we talked about. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.360 So I'll say this. I say that this is that 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.440 is a low number yardage wise, right, The defense is 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:53.880 going to have to be like the number one rated 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.640 defense and our rushing attask gonna need to be top ten. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:56.920 Yeah. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.400 I don't think either one of those things are like 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.280 a lock. I think defense probably top five. I think 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.760 Russian attack probably top fifteen. If that's the case, he's 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.360 got to be a top he's got to be a 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:06.160 top fifteen quarterback. 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:06.440 Yeah. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.640 And I think that these numbers aren't that. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.240 Yeah, they just not playoffs numbers, all right. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.960 So let's move on to Diammy Brown. Right, And I 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.120 just went crazy here. I just went actually, Jason Jason 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.120 producer probably with these numbers. And I think Jason it 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.159 slipped out a little bit. All right, So he has 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.120 So if I said he had forty six receptions, right 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.400 for seven hundred and twenty four yards and two touchdowns. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.760 He's your fourth receiver. Yeah. I mean if your fourth receiver. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.880 Has seven hundred, you are five thousand year old pass. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:41.600 I mean I'll just say, YEAHD one was gonna be 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:42.479 thrown for six thousand. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.080 Yeah, I don't. I think this was what if? What if? 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.760 Okay, so we're thinking though, I mean, if somebody get hurt, 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.400 what if his role changes? Look, I'm like this and 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.560 This is my opinion. I will hope to see that 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.440 he put up those numbers, but I will say, if 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.320 you ask me right now today, you overthrown. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:57.760 Yeah, you know. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:04:59.279 But I would love to see. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.359 Diami Brown go out there and and rekindle that flame 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.520 that he had or that that and be able to 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.239 come in because I want him to be used only 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:10.800 for the you know, for the fact that him and 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.560 Sam know each other. I want them to bring him 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.160 in in certain packages and say this this thing going 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.960 to too and they can't stop y'all because y'all have 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.200 the chemistry y'all have you know, y'all have that history. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.080 So I would love to see him put up those. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.640 Now I go out on the limb and say he 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.080 could lead the team in average per catch. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:25.800 I like that. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.839 Yeah, I like that. I think he is because he. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.440 A big play hitter and he might not have the 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.440 catches that the guys got, but he could accumulate enough 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:34.880 yeards through his george. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:36.200 And that's a good point because I do think when 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.360 you look at Andy Reid's offense in Kansas City, the 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.480 one that Ebu was a part of his each receiver 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.600 had a role. Martez Valdez standing had that deep role, right, 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.760 and he had a really high you know, Juju was 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.240 the position, and then Tony was the gadget guy, right, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.000 so everyone kind of had their role. So I do 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:53.880 think there is a role. I think that's a really 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.159 nice kind of on the money mark throw. There is 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.599 that he leads the team in yards per reception. But 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.080 I think this is a little bit high. That's a 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.880 little bits. 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.680 Overthrown and picked off by me. You know, tip ball 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:05.440 is aye ball. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.600 And so the comparison, these are Darius Slayton's stats from 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.680 last year, and Darius Slayton was the number one receiver 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.440 for most of the season for the Giant the Giants, right, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.280 And so with the Giants, I think they had a 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.600 lot of injuries and Darius Layton took on a much 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.440 larger role yes the season went on. I think that's 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.279 why his numbers were so high. So I think we agree. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.320 And if his role changes, if if he becomes the 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.000 true three, maybe that's something that happens, but I think 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:28.440 it's probably more in that. If you had to give 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:29.400 him a number, what do you think? 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.040 I think five a good round number, five hundred, yeah, 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:32.480 I think four. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:37.440 To fifty five, Yeah, four eighty four touchdowns, four touchdowns 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.280 at least because he's a deep three. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.400 So I gotta believe it. You get a couple, He's 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.000 gonna get a couple on something. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.600 Like Aldrick Robinson back when when was that twenty twelve 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:47.240 that was like his. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:48.960 Role asy getting them things. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:50.839 All right, let's go on to Johann Dotson. You're ready. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.000 I mean, I know you can see this already. So 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:54.760 ninety five receptions. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:56.240 It's a lot of receipts. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.360 Eleven hundred and ninety six yards and seven touchdowns. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.560 I see money on the money on the money. Wow, 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.200 I like I told you, man, I think hoghy of 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.000 the kid man. He showed last year that he can 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.680 be a number one in anybody off How. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:13.600 Many catches did Terry have last year? Seventy something, So 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.560 we're just going to be on offense that much more 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.560 that he can have. I have one hundred. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.360 You got to pass thinks no. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.920 Last year, if we just want to talk about, not 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.000 talking about the quarterbacks, just talk about the opportunities, Terry 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.200 wasn't getting a lot of opportunities. At one point, he wouldn't. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.560 He wanted to tell Honeke got in the game. So 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.360 I tell you this. If they going the way they 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.760 was going last year, if it's trending the way Johann 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.040 was trending last year at the gate, and he doesn't 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.440 have a set back and get hurt, you know, have 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.040 a ham stream pull, he probably gonna get ninety five 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:46.080 last year receptions. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.160 You know what I mean I'm saying. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.320 I mean he was number one threat at one point. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.040 So the producer just said Terry had seventy seven catches 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:52.520 last year. 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:53.320 I thought it was seven. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.600 We got a legit guy that knows how to He's 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.560 about the minutia, that love about the enemy. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.240 Last week of practice, man, we saw him coaching the 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:04.040 route depths. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.800 Man just just own it to the point where every 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:11.840 little catch matters. I watched Andy Reid turned Todd Pinkston 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.559 into a go to receive. 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.520 I don't know that, That's what I'm telling you. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.040 So at the end of the day, they know how 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.280 to get while our receivers open, and we got some 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.600 guys that gonna catch the ball. We're gonna be a 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.880 better passing office than people think we are. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.640 I agree, I think we're gonna be better. Also, did 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.960 I tell you I saw you be you know, get 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.440 after Antonio Gibson for going the wrong direction out of 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.080 the huddle. Yeah last week, man, he is own it 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:35.640 right now. 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.719 Save no wasted motion, Yeah, no wasted right. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.720 So let me say this, So this seems just a 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.880 little high to me. I mean, are we do Are 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.320 we gonna have two receivers with ninety plus catches? 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.760 I think we can have two thousand yard receiver. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.440 I think so too. But I don't think we're gonna 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.000 have one ninety five catches. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.880 One look right and like and and who's to say 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.000 that Terry won't have seventy again and get what he 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:58.720 gets and this guy have ninety something. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:08:59.360 I think both. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:01.760 What's the most receptions you had in New year, Tenna? 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.080 The most I had in your team was ninety two, 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.000 I believe ninety ten. 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.520 And I was second in the league that year. 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.880 Yeah, that's just a lot. That's a lot, a lot 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.360 of catches, man. So what I'll say is, I think 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.120 the yardage is doable. You know, eleven hundred yards. I 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.839 think that's doable. I think, I wa, I'm gonna get 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.559 my range to say nine hundred to eleven hundred yards. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.120 I think that's right on the money. I think seven 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.320 touchdowns feels good that that catch number just seems so. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.360 I'm gonna keep him in the seventies. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.240 I think if you got two number two guys that 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.599 could be number one, seventy five catches each sounds. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.440 Seventy is seventy is is is. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.440 Beyond great to me, you know, because you can get 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:37.880 a lot of done. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.440 You could get you can, you can you can be 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.559 really dominant with seventy sixty seventy catches. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.720 Kelsey had ninety to one hundred. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.400 Kitchenes had. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.000 So if Kelsey had one hundred catches last year, what 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.240 is the number two guy in Kansas City? I think 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:53.680 that would be a really good indicator because that that 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.960 offense is about as healthy as you can get. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.520 But the quarterback also threw for five thousands, right, So that's. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:09:59.800 What we're talking. 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.480 Juju had nine hundred yards last year, with Kelsey having 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:03.880 one hundred. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.760 Yeah, yeah, and you forget about you had. 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.840 Probably like seventy catches, and so I think. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.439 I think we're gonna get something like that. One guy 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.000 is gonna have ninety eighty ninety catches. Oh he had 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.400 one hundred and ten catches pure so yeah, So like 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.200 I think that's a little steep. So I'm gonna say. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.040 I'm gonna say for Jahan, he's gonna have seventy five 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.920 catches for just over one thousand. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.600 Can we agree that Kelsey is the chain mover, so he's. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.439 Going to get more touches. So who's that guy in 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:28.920 this office? 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:29.480 You? 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.360 Who is the chain move I think Johann is the change. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.080 Maybe, but I honestly think to Logan gonna have a 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.160 better year, just Thomas Logan Thomas. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:39.480 But we know we ain't talking about you. 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.400 Yeah, but your Logan Logan Thomas would have a better 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.480 year just knowing that this is his year two from that. Yeah, 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:48.800 that knee injury, and think about it. Last year, I 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.000 think a lot of stuff was forced to see him 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.960 out there pressing too early. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:54.040 Yeah, he was pressing a lot. 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.560 He's gonna be that escape, He's gonna be that safety 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.800 net for Sam. He's gonna be that guy over the 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.800 ball in the middle of the field. He's gonna be 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.800 playing that role what Heineke took advantage of before he 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.720 got injured, before Logan got injured, and he got such. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.400 A big catch rady as that he's your bad he's 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.240 your bad ball bringer down like he brings down bad 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:14.000 and I. 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:15.800 Feel like those one hundred and ten catches that Travis 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.880 Kelsey has, yeah, you know, Logan gets twenty five of those, 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.320 John Bates, Yeah, John Baits gets fifteen. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.800 Yeah, whatever it is, and Turner becomes your ribs one, right, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:26.160 And I. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:27.679 Think that's how it's gonna go. So if I told 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.960 you that johns stats had just read off where Devonte 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.920 Smith from last year, what would you say? 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:33.880 I say, he can do it. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.320 I know he can do it, but like, is there enough? 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.560 I just think I just think we have a we 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.439 got this threesome with Samuel, and I just think they 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:44.160 are going to divide. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:45.960 Let's just say, out of these guys, I. 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.080 Know, but you really got you got three, you got 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.160 two pass catching tight ends, you got a pass catching 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.000 running back. I think it's just there's a lot of 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.960 people who deserve touches will get touches. Yeah, And there's 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.360 just there's not that many times to throw the football. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.959 Right, four hundred completions for sam Let's just say four hundred, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.040 all right, I can go seventy to seventy. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.680 There's one forty nothing to the top two. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:12.000 Receivers, yeah, and then fifty to Curtis and you got 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.439 fifty the logan, So I. 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.520 Just see the ball being dispeared pretty good. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.400 All right, all right, So let's get to the defensive 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.440 side of the ball here. Let's talk about Chase Young 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:27.520 Sixty five total tackles, six sacks, three forest fumbles. Do 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.319 you think that's on the money? Overthrown or underthrown? 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.880 I think that's underthrown. You threw a duck in there 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.000 with a kangaroo. Get listen to me. 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.360 What is he Okay? What has he done so far? 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:40.240 This is what I feel? 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.800 Tell me, you know, like I know, motivation for football 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:44.760 players is everything. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:46.960 And pick up his fifty year options. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.079 Just coming out for injury, seem to be there forgotten 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:54.120 about gym that diamond, Like he's going to show back 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.160 up and literally pretty much have his best year. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.160 We always have. Our best year is on country. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.000 But I mean, like, so I'll say this and again, 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.199 I hope Chase has an excellent year. I think he's 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.160 capable of having an excellent year. But what is he 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.680 done recently to show you that he's cap. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.559 I'm not gonna do it all recently. He coming out 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.480 the injury, he was hurt. Yeah, he had a slow 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.959 start to the second year. But like I said, we 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.440 are mentally we are mentally built when people make us 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.040 an underdog to outperformer. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.280 I also think he's a different player now. You know 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.000 last year you saw when he came back he was 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.720 paying close attention to detail. Last year, he wasn't doing 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.680 that thing that he did the year you know before 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.280 he got hurt, where he was just running there trying 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.200 to get sacks. Now he was set in the edge. 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:34.720 He played within the scheme. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:35.240 Last year. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:36.000 You saw that. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:37.440 I saw that, you know what I mean, it was 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.240 glaring that and I talked to him briefly and he say, man, 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.920 you know they gonna feel me this time around. And 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.360 you saw you saw flashes of that last year, even 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.520 with that big Fokyo brace on ye. 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.360 He was showing up in the paint. 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:50.640 He was showing up where he. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:51.280 Needed to be at. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.440 So just imagine a guy that had that same hunger 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.600 and desire and knowing like like like Smooth just talked 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.800 about knowing that, you know, he got added chip to 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.280 have on his back, you know what I mean. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.559 And the two Pro Bowl is inside the double teams. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.000 What happened inside, He's probably gonna get more one on 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.520 one uh, I mean blockers this year than he ever got. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.920 Also saying schematically though, one of the things about this 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.200 defense is is that end has to rush off of 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.680 the three technique a lot. It's not the defensive end 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.440 show like a lot of teams here, it's it's the 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.520 three technique interior player that's going to affect his ability 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.960 to be super productive. I mean Montest had nine last year, right, 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.200 is that correct? Nine? So doing that, I mean he 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:31.440 had in his Pro Bowl year eight right? 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:31.920 Eight or nine? 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:32.800 Right? He gets seven? 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.040 So if he had seven in his Pro. 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:36.880 Bowl year and he was young and not there his 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:37.960 playing running. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.720 Wow, he's a little wiser. I give him. I'll give 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:40.240 him a little more. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.760 So what's the number one, I give him eleven, eleven. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.120 I'll give him eleven sacks. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.200 I'll give him around. I'll give him nine. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.040 Or ten, nine or ten. I feel I like nine 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:50.640 or ten. So what if I told you those stats 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.040 were DeMarcus Lawrence from last year Dallas, doesn't shock. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.400 Me because he did yeah down here that ye, yeah, 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:56.800 he had. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:58.960 But we think it's going to be chasing, gonna be 0:14:58.960 --> 0:14:59.440 better this year. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.960 Yeah. Michael Parsons then took some of his life. 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.760 That's true, that's true, no question. All right. So now 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:09.480 Fred your favorite yep, the secondary, Yes, let's talk all right. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:14.080 So nineteen point seven opponent points per game. Okay, I 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.680 know that's a defensive stat but you know, I think 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.960 that's a pretty good indicator of defensive production. Two hundred 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.760 and ninety two opposing yards per game passing yards, that's 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.400 a pretty good number. And seventeen interceptions. What do you 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:27.040 think is that. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.000 Seventeen exceptions that's averaged one interception a game. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:30.840 That'd be pretty good. 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.359 So you're giving the team. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.600 A short feel, maybe turning the ball over at the 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:35.800 right time one time. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.640 A game, but I will take that. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.320 Yeah, three hundred almost three hundred passing yards. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.080 I think you got to get that down about one 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:44.960 sixty I mean to sixty. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.400 Oh okay, yeah, talk about two sixty. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.760 Yeah, because they're telling me in the fourth quarter you're 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.520 making sure they don't get the yards. Then yeah, Like, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.560 and this what it's about. In nineteen points a game. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.600 I think that's pretty good. I think you can win 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.240 like that, Yeah, queen like this. So I think these 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:02.280 numbers are winning numbers. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:03.880 What you got great numbers? 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.600 I mean I mean, if you can get that many 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.040 interceptions alone. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.160 To me, that's that's that's jumps off the page. But 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.040 I definitely believe if. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.800 A team, if you're defense holding the teams to around 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.640 nineteen points offensively, you should be able to win those games. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.520 You should be in those games or winning those games. 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:20.760 Yeah. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.520 So it's just for analysis purposes. These were the ego 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.680 statistics from last year. Right, So they had a couple 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.920 of guys with a whole bunch of interceptions at the 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.240 guy Gardner with six, right, six, and they had to 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.720 play with four or whatever it was said, a couple 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.120 with a lot of interceptions. Do we have enough playmakers 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.720 in the back end? Yes? You always talk about how 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.400 he's a disruptor or he's a turnover guy, right, Do 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:44.760 we have enough turnover guys? 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:45.080 Yeah? 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.400 Full look, coming off his best turnover year, Phillips is 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.800 a turnover magnet. I'm giving right now, I'm giving four 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.640 of six picks. That's the same amount I had my 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.840 rookie year. Six pictures, my rookie has six pigs. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.560 It's a good flex by you. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.720 Hey, I'm just saying, at the end of the day, 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:03.400 it will. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.800 Be I think we got the guys to do it 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.719 and defro found the ball last year. I'm looking for 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.399 Cam Curll to have a bounce back year in the 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:13.080 ball this year. 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.240 One of me tanna is Percy Yeah, if he's playing 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.200 the true post, because I think he's got more range. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.720 And then Kwan, Yeah, we're forgetting about Quan Mark got 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.560 all about Kwan Yeah. I mean, I just feel like 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.600 we have we have with the takes in the secondary. 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.280 One of the things that stood out to me is 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.800 just you know, when you have those guys up front, man, 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:32.919 you don't have to be the best in the back end. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.040 And I think we have some better guys now at 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.159 that position that's going to be able to get their 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.520 hands on a lot of balls. So they better be ready. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.800 They be in front of those drug machines before and 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:42.480 after practice. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.919 If I was the defensive backfield, I would take my 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.680 d lines down there to the offensive line and tell 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.359 them to work on block because when I get my 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.439 hand on the ball, y'all need to learn how to 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:54.000 block for me. 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.639 All right. So we'll say that the Eagles played a 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.280 lot of that soft cover three last year. I think 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.119 that's one of the reasons the yards was so high. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.400 Jack's defense is gonna be a little bit more aggressive. Also, 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.760 Philly played with the lead a lot, so they saw 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:10.200 more passes. Yes, you are so keimn This offense provide 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.680 the scaffolding you know, to stress defenses, to stress opponent 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.879 offenses the same way that Philly's offense trusts. 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.120 When your offense gives you the lead. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.479 As a cornerback, I can play a lot looser and 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.560 I can go at the balls that I normally wouldn't 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.160 go there. And when you play with the league, guess 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.520 who else benefits? The pass rushes. The pass rushers benefits, 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:30.680 so not a sect total goes. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.080 That's what I'm saying. Ken the offense do that. 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:37.119 I think I think after first four weeks, the unpredictability 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.879 of the offense, I think it's gonna keep defenses on 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.320 their heels. They don't know what to study. Who are 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.720 they gonna study for the first month to stop us? 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.000 Kansas City? 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.440 They true, they gonna look at Kansas City. They're gonna 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.439 look for They're gonna look for indicators. You know that 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:52.560 they're gonna look for a formation. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:53.200 But it's nothing. 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.040 But the thing that's gonna be different is the skill players. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.639 The players are a lot different. So to me, I 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.520 believe Kansas City made up a lot of the you 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.440 know where they was lacking in with the skill position, 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.119 with the quarterback just being so elusive, so damn you 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.320 know able to you know, uh you know, uh, you 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.840 know do some of the things you know off schedule 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.320 that most quarterbacks don't. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.800 You have these guys here. We talked about it on 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:17.240 the field. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.440 If you get that ball out in the timely fashion 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.200 and let these guys do work. We have from pound 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.159 for pounds, some of the best at their position, you 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:24.760 know what I'm saying. 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.719 So, but also just to play Devil's advocate, because that's 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.240 what I'm here for, right is they have Patrick Mahomes 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.840 in Kansas City, and we're talking about a guy that 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:37.439 through for five MVP of the NFL. He elevates everybody, 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.080 you know, and so I think as good as the 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.160 skill position players are here Ken, Sam Howell. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:44.679 I'm gonna tell you what you are, Logan. 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.239 I just feel like Sam don't have to do as 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:47.080 much as Patrick. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.400 When you have the guys, I'm gonna tell you who 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:55.080 you are. I ever walked into a store down south 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.880 for gas station and then you see that pickle pig 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.600 feet right there on the right there on the job 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.240 right there that layers pickle pe feet. 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.040 That's who you are. Nobody wants it. We all admire. 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.440 We look at the pickle pig feet and this logan. 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:09.800 Fred, I just gotta be here to just bring you 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.520 back to earth because you're saying, Oh, this offense is 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.240 gonna be and I'm just saying, and I want the 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:14.960 offense to be good. I think it's gonna be good. 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:15.960 I wanted to be good too. 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.240 But it's like Ken they have, they have the best 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.240 player in football right now, the headsas City. 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:21.080 Yes they do. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.600 All I'm saying is better scheme, better quarterback. I do 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.359 think Sam Howe is better than Heinike. I know you 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:29.240 love your Heinekee. 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:30.920 Now I like. 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:34.560 He's better than Conston Wins. 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:36.760 I don't disagree. 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:38.720 So I think that alone. 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.199 But I also think there's a potential there. There's a 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.040 potential there. That's what I think is gonna happen. So 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.159 with the Eagles, secondary is that we over overthrown on 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:47.639 the money. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:48.800 I think we own the money. 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.480 Okayney, you said the yards might be all high. Okay, 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.120 so let's talk about this something really interesting and I'm 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:55.600 really excited to talk to you guys about it because 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.480 you guys played a lot of football better around good leaders. 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:00.800 And this is an interesting time year because it's where 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:02.200 leadership is kind of developed. 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:02.520 Yep. 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:06.320 What makes a good leader? Okay, and let's talk about 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.080 it specifically with related to Sam Howell. How does he 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.080 become a good leader? What do you need to see 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:12.640 from him to say that, like, this is his team 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:13.280 and he's leading it. 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.920 All I need to see from day one is how 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:17.840 he takes command of that huddle. I can say that 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.919 stands out more than anything. One of the things I 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.159 give a lot of credit to RG three being that 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.400 he was young. He had command from day one. We 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.199 believed in this guy before we even saw him. I mean, 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.320 he ran two plays and I was a believer, you 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.760 know what I mean that twenty twelve season it was 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.600 unbelievable because he had command and it was nothing that 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:39.520 he said that I didn't believe he couldn't do, Like 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.919 he would come in that huddle. I got this, you know, 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.240 and I below and behold he. 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:45.160 Went out there and made a play. 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.280 So take command, you know, be show these guys that 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.639 you're going to stand on everything that you say and 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:52.439 get the right guy to ball, and trust me, you 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:54.400 will have everybody at the palm of your hand. 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.160 You know, I got these different things in my head 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.240 that I go through when it comes to quarterbacks. You know, 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.320 you know about my married but you also know about 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:06.440 my ugly quarterback clause. You know, the attractive quarterbacks are 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:07.600 what this. 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:08.280 League is about. 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:09.200 You think he's ugly? 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:11.200 Who Sam? Do you think he's a truck No? I 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.600 think Sam Hows is attractive tructor man. 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.520 That's all right. Now, I'm here with you, Fred, I'm supporting. 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.080 No, No, listen, I think, like Tanner said, controlling their 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:21.960 huddle and everything else come from. 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:23.120 Your play say. 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.040 Everything else comes from like this is what I want 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.400 him to do. I want to see that first touchdown 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.879 of the year, the first touchdown of the year he throws, 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:34.760 gonna gravitate everybody towards him anyway. He's he's and then 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:36.679 he comes off as one of the guys. I've been 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.520 around him, and he just he's quiet. He's my manner. 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.560 And you know, some quarterbacks stand up with it. They 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:44.040 want to command the room. 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:46.560 He's just more of all right, let me go out here, 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.600 let me do my job. So I think everything gonna 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:49.040 come from him. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:50.720 But I think also if you watched him play in 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:52.600 the preseason last year, and you watched him playing that 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.520 last game, you know against the Cowboys, what he showed 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.520 also that that had everyone gravitate to him as just 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.439 his play making a bit. He didn't necessarily have to 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:04.480 throw the proper pass to go out there and move 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.000 the chains. He would add live and do something with 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.800 his feet that allowed the office to continue to move 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.560 the ball down the field. And that gets everybody ignite. 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.520 That gets everybody on your side because at the end 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:16.880 of the day, you're not letting us, you're not letting 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.040 us fail, you're not letting us down be a loss 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:19.320 of down. 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:20.760 They're going to go out there and find a way 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:21.440 to get it done. 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:23.240 I will say this, I think there's two types of 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.040 leaders at any level of football. Right. There's the guy 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.639 who's like the character leader, there's everything right, but that 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:32.160 isn't necessarily the best football player. And they're like a fabric. 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:33.960 Guy that holds Kirk Cousins. 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:39.440 Kirk Cousins a great example, Kendrick Golson, Lorenzoe, Alexander guys 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.879 who were solid pros but never kind of reached that, 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:45.919 but really good leaders in the locker mentors. And then 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.040 I think the other type leader is guys who are 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.840 just ballers, Like it doesn't really matter what kind of 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.800 character they have, if they're if they are helping you 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.800 win football games. That grab it, that that brings people 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:57.480 in somehow. 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:00.800 Let me let me ask you just didn't care? 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.560 Boy? What point we go nowhere with him? 0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:05.119 But guess what when you give him that ball and 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:06.440 then let him go and do his thing? 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:11.000 Well, what point do y'all want to see Sam RiPP 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:11.919 into somebody? 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.080 Like? Because it got to happen. 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.560 At one point, Like, at what point does he get 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.679 out of the choir zone and maybe were down twenty 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.200 in the second quarter? Like, that's that's what I want 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.320 to see. I want to see how he reacts and 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:27.800 what happens when he do ripping. 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.680 I don't think you necessarily have to get that from 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.920 a quarterback because I you know, I played with Mark 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.080 Brunell and he was a leader amongst leaders, and Mark Burnell, 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.520 it wasn't it wasn't a dull moment in the huddle. 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:41.000 Even when it was time to be serious, he found 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.120 a way to get us focused by saying a joke 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:47.639 by saying, you know, doing something silly, and guess what 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:51.080 he responded by making a play. So you don't necessarily 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.320 like I see those guys like you know, Manny when 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.480 he was in control of history and how him and 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:57.560 Reggie Waying was going to, you know, about to throw 0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.240 hands on the sideline because he didn't like the. 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:00.000 Way Reggie did something. 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.159 Then I saw how Tom did when we practiced with 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:04.520 those guys. He was ripping you know what in them. 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.280 I don't respond from quarterbacks like that. I remember Chad 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.800 Pennington saying something to me and I just looked at him, like, boy, 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.760 you don't even know to have I'm just I'm just 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.480 I just look like this. You understand, because honestly, I 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:15.600 don't respond from fear. 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:16.040 You can't. 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.800 You can't scare me into doing something. You don't do 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:20.280 that because I'm I'm gonna be sharp. 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.840 You understand I'm coming to work, so you don't have 0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:24.840 to tell me now if I mess up. I know 0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:26.679 I messed up before you did, so you don't have to. 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.159 You know, you don't have to remind me. But I 0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:30.760 don't think Sam is that kind of guy. I look 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:32.560 at his demeanor I don't think you going to ever 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.320 see him pull a guy to the side and rip 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.760 a hole. You might say, come on, fellers, let's do it, 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:38.760 you know, settle down, you know, And that's what you 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.480 need sometime a guy, just to re ensure that, hey, 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.080 we got a job at you know, we gotta we 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:44.800 gotta task to complete, and let's go out here and 0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:45.080 do it. 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:46.479 And I think that's one of the reasons why this 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.399 is such a hard conversation conversation tennis, because there's different 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:53.120 leadership styles. You know, Mark Rudell did that. Kirk had 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:55.760 his own very unique leadership style, right, especially when he's 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:57.399 a starter, like he would yell at guys, but he 0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.520 was also kind of funny. He was one of the guys, 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:01.720 but he was all so the quarterback, right, Matt Ryan 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:05.040 when I was in Atlanta, awesome leader. Right, would yell, 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.359 would cuss guys out like you've never seen, but also 0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.160 would hang on the locker room play ping pong, ball, 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.760 ping pong after like was a good dude. So it's 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.320 just about finding I think that balance of what you 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.159 feel comfortable doing, how it matches with your play, and. 0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.480 Then that quarterback has to be solid. I mean when 0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.560 I say solid, he could do no wrong for him 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.560 to even have that authority to yell at me, you understand, like, 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.280 you better be out there, you better be pinpoint shopping 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.959 everything you do. If you're going, you have to design 0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:32.800 to raise your voice. 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.199 And that's what I'm fair with Kirk Couzins. Are you 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:37.879 ready to say that Kirk Couzins is a better banker 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:42.760 than he is a quarterback? It could be my banker, 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:48.160 collect But when it comes to a football player, now, 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:49.600 where's Kirk? 0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:51.639 Credit man? 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:56.080 I like Kirk? I like because so what I want 0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:57.639 to say about Kirk is like he's a guy that 0:26:57.880 --> 0:26:59.640 This is what I like in a football player. Right, 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.880 Obviously I like the freak talent, right, Julio Jones, Hopkins, 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.719 Trent Williams, I'm about that right. The next thing I 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:10.720 like is dude to our overachievers who squeezed every ounce 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:12.760 of what they had out of what they were given. 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:14.760 And there's no doubt my mind cursed on that he's 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.080 from a leadership standpoint, He's in that from a place 0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.480 and so yes, and so I love that. I respect that. 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:25.159 And Danny were talking about this, like I'm okay if 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.040 Kirk yells at me because I know he's he's gonna 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.400 stand putting in the work. And I'm okay with that 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:30.919 same thing with Matt Ryan, Like you can yell at 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.760 me because I know you're doing it. The thing that 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.679 would get me is if you're not putting in the 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.879 work and you're yelling at me and I'm putting in 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:41.280 everything I got, you better be doing. You better be 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:42.400 doing something real special. 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.360 And one of the things I canna say about Kirk 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.520 too man like he didn't necessarily have to he was 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.160 so sharp. You know, I remember a couple of players 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.239 that I played with him, and I play more than 0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:51.720 a couple. 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.000 I just automatically knew the ball was. 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.400 Gonna come at a timely fashion and I was gonna 0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.960 have a chance to do something with it. I never 0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.160 hesitated when he was at quarterback, you know what I mean. 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.639 And that's crazy because you know, you watch them in 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.160 practice and you get a chance to go through those 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.200 reps and you like, get to my spot turning around 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:10.760 beause Kurt gonna throw that, but it's gonna be right 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.639 on time and I'm gonna be able to GetUp. Feel So, 0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:14.880 when you have a quarterback that's doing things like that, 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.080 you necessarily don't have to even you shouldn't be the 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.440 one that even get yelled at, because you know he's 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.160 gonna be on points, so you have to be on point. 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.480 So summertime you're talking about leadership skills, when you have 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.000 a guy that's laser shop, you're gonna be laser shop. 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.320 And even if you off a bit, he knows that 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:32.280 you can just look at him and say that that 0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.760 was on me and that quarterback No, okay, he ain't 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.560 got to worry about hi again because he's already letting me. 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.720 He's addressing the situation before I even allow him or 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:40.240 I had. 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:40.880 To get on him. 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.560 I totally agree. And I think that's the interesting interesting 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.880 thing about the quarterback, right, is that different kind of 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.320 leadership styles lead to different results. But they gotta be sharp, 0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.280 they got to own it. I think an interesting guy 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.560 is John Allen on this team, right, because he's got 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:56.520 a lot of big personalities to navigate. If you were 0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.560 in that room, Fred, like, how would you go about that? 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.480 He don't give an f Well, this is what you 0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:02.800 gotta understand by John Allen. 0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:06.320 He's military race, his daddy parents, mama in the military. 0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.120 He's trying to know nonsense. You know, when you read 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.040 raised by military payer, he's the guy to handle that room. 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:12.360 Man. 0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:13.600 He cussing and fussing. 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.200 Mean, listen, that's what you gotta do, especially with them 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:17.720 d Linen. 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.760 D Linen's are rowdy anyway, like they're rally by nature. 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.200 So I think what John actually does besides the talking point, 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.680 he just leaves. By example, he goes out there and 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.880 kicked the ass of the guard in front of him, 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:31.600 and he says, all right, if I can do it, 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.480 you can go do it, and he holds him to 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.440 a standard up. I don't care about all their talking. 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.920 Show me he from Missouri, show me. 0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:41.840 I feel you on all that he does that, but 0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.480 he also ripped on you. I mean, god, bleep that. 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:47.920 French may. 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.000 When I say I watched this dude go out to 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.000 d Lineman, I'm like, hold on, that's your boy. 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.680 He was your boy five minutes ago, and you tear 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:56.440 off into him. 0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.000 But now I like that about John because that shows 0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.360 you how much it means to him. 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.320 I understand. And that was like. 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:03.680 And you can lead it a little different as a 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:04.040 d line. 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.680 And that's what made me just, you know, admire London 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.200 Fletcher because he had that same kind of demeanor. Now 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.960 London was he kind of gave you his message a 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.920 little differently. But if he had to say, if he 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:20.160 had to say something he gonna say, he has said. 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.200 It might not been directly. He'll do it indirectly. But 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:24.800 you everybody got the mess. 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.720 You remember London restarting practices. Remember that's what I'm saying. 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:29.800 Like I've seen him up. 0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.320 He coaches with back up, He's like redoing this practice 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.080 and you're like, well, you're like all right, and then 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.680 all the coaches let's run it back. That's that's how 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:38.040 he was. 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.160 And so you expect a guy like that, and that's 0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.120 I'm a guy from the outside looking in. You know, 0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.040 John could have played with us because I see the 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.120 way he handled those guys. I'm like, we had some 0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:51.160 knuckle heads, yes, you know what I'm saying, especially on 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.120 that D line, and it was some heads that he 0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:54.920 would have had to turn and tell him like, look here, bro, 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.880 we ain't going for that today, you know. And that's 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:58.760 why you see those guys competing and play at that level. 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.520 Our D line as good as they are for no 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.440 reason one. They are all talented guys it was all 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.400 first round, you know. But John Allen he ignites a 0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.160 lot more out of them, and he makes sure those 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.080 guys come ready because he ain't settling for you coming 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.360 miniocre like you saw when he had a bad game. Yeah, 0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.080 I just ain't play right, I ain't play good enough. 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.200 You know, I'm not going for that. And so I 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.760 watched him talk about himself like that. Just imagine what 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:21.800 he's telling those other guys. 0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.040 No, I totally agree, And I think there's another example 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.760 of a guy who his play supports his leadership style. 0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.320 He can be aggressive, he's a good player because he's 0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.800 a Chris and I compare him to like Kendrick for example. 0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.360 We all remember Uncle Keed, right, unc Uncle Keed, Like 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:39.240 he was much more quiet and how he let do 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.560 his job and like, there's just different ways to be 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.160 leaders on that group. John's got a very distinctile. And 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.040 then Freddie you know you're here, Manuel Forbes is here. 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:48.760 We got to talk about the secondary. It's kind of 0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:49.240 boring for me. 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.680 But because you don't like you don't like, no. 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.840 I want to talk about run fits No. So in 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:57.200 the secondary, who's the leader right now? 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.280 Caim Curl, Kim Crow I would say Cam Curl is 0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:09.400 the undisputed leader. Fuller is the most educated, but Fuller's 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.600 quiet and Curl is more of the talker. 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.000 You see him talking back there. 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:14.760 I see him. 0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.040 I see him bring guys in and check them when 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.920 something ain't going right. I see him on the sideline 0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.080 go talk to guys between things. So I'm gonna have 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.920 to say Cam Curl is the guy, not by default. 0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:28.719 He earned it. 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.320 And you want to talk about overachieving, he is one 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:32.560 of those guys. 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.320 That came in and got every inch out of his table. 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.200 Yeah, I mean, you know, I go with that when 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.400 it comes to just what he did play wise, you know, 0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.960 but if I had to look at somebody and someone 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:46.200 to give me, give me a little knowledge of the 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.320 game and a little leadership from just being a vet, 0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.320 you know, I will lean on Fuller with that. 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:52.960 I mean, we. 0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:56.160 All measure guys by the play and say he's the guy. 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:56.560 You know. 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.760 I remember when I came in here, David Patton, God 0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.200 bless the day. He was one of the wide receivers 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.080 that had just came came to winning Super Bowl with 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.840 New England, and I had thrash. You remember, you know, 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.960 James trash and being that I was younger than those guys. 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:11.720 I know, I was a big money guy, but I 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.960 used to let those guys speak because that's how I 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.000 was brought up. You know, let my others talk, you know, 0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.040 and d people like aunt Tana, you the guy, we 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:19.520 just hear it. 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.760 We just here be, you know, we want to hear disciples. 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:23.520 And I looked at him like that's good leadership. 0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.720 It was a great leadership and I never forgot that. 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:28.480 And he waited till we got to meet. 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.400 He said, look here. He say, look here, we're gonna 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.480 We're gonna go as far as you go. So he said, 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.200 you're riding this thing. We're gonna ride with you. And 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:39.560 I swear it made me just think, like I'm always. 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:40.320 Being by example. 0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:41.240 I leave by example. 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:42.479 I ain't got a rod rode with you. 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.320 I don't like blowing smoke because I want to make 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.040 sure that I'm always on minds and the way I'm 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:48.480 gonna get on mine by saying less. 0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:49.440 I've always been a guy. 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.560 I ain't gonna sit here and scare you with no words. 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:53.800 I don't look tough. I got a babyface, so I 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:54.760 ain't trying to be tough. 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:56.760 But I'm anna hitch in the mouth and you're gonna 0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:58.800 least expect like, oh man, I didn't know that was coming. 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.479 And when you hit me in my mind, I'm anamile 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:01.880 at you and get up and say do it again. 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.960 So that was my thing, the lead by example and 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.120 not be the guy to go out here doing this talking, 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.080 but to know that I had two older guys that 0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.279 I grew up watching that was, you know, down for 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.239 me to do it that way, that meant a lot 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:16.000 to me, you understand. 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.520 That kind of gives me chills, man Like, That's awesome leadership. 0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.040 That's so like, that's what leadership's about. Empowering younger guys 0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.080 to do that kind of thing. And I don't know, 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.279 man like that. That's a special type of leader for sure. 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.960 Yet you gotta have them all great teams got them. 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.759 Yeah, And it's and it's names you don't necessarily think about, 0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:33.440 you know. And I think there's probably some good leaders 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:34.839 in this locker room right now that we haven't talked. 0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.640 We're not talking about Jeremy Reeves, guys leader. If you 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.680 want to talk about DV, that gonna lead to Lee. 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:42.439 My example, he's one of those. 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.160 He did just that last year. 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.520 Absolutely. Man, that's that's a great point. All right. So 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.160 time of year O T A three a lot of 0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.440 time with each other as a team. Do we have 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:56.359 good stories of teams bonding? I know he probably got 0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:01.600 they gotta be podcasting print podcast appropriated. Yes, stories of 0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.720 teams coming together during face ree Ota. So min, mine's 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.560 a little bit more chill. So like when I was 0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:10.000 older and I was on different teams, that's right, older 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.719 as a player. Let's say that, all right, I would 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.359 be in a different state. My family would stay here 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.200 in Virginia, and I'd be with these young guys and 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.560 I'd go we have dinner once a week during this 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.400 time of year because everyone's feeling pretty good. You know, 0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:23.840 you go see a movie. And that was times we 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.080 got to really like know people's personality, you know what 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.480 I mean. I think it's a it's a special time, 0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.240 Like when I think back about my time in the league, 0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.960 like those were the times you are like really special. 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.000 They's coming to come to come together as a group. 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:38.280 So I remember we signed a Big Day our gardener. 0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:39.839 This is a funny start. 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:41.840 We signed Big. 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.880 Day a gardener around this time, and people don't know 0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:50.160 who Darl Gardner is six eight, three hundred and fifty pals. 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.560 Every time, every time you tell, the story gets bigger. 0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.720 But he is a big man's dude. 0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.800 Hey, listen to me. This dude, he's still growing it 0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.120 this say. You listen to me. 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:03.080 You know, I'm the jokest in the locker room. I 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.200 like to have fun. So I guess he attracted to me. 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.000 And then I go home and I get a knock 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.399 at the door. I'm not expecting anybody in this big 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.840 Darryl Gardener, and he got a bag in his hand. 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.960 He literally walked in the door. I did not invite 0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.400 him in. He moved in my house. 0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.880 Understand me. I'm a cooking breakfast in the morning for 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.560 the dude dinner. I'm so scared. I had to come 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.480 tell Marvin Luis, you got to get this dude out 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.680 of my house. You understand, Because I couldn't get him out. 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:32.399 So what happened now. 0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:36.759 He forced his hand. 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.680 I told you I was in there cooking, cleaning for him. 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:40.719 You need anything there. 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.160 It was bad for me. I was a hostage in 0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:43.640 mown house. 0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.879 Yeah, that's a scary story. You We'll talk to him. No, 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.800 I don't probably keep the space right, he will take. 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.279 Your house probably probably come looking for your house now, 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.359 looking for him now, all right, man Fred moved moved 0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:57.560 to let me see time. 0:36:57.640 --> 0:36:59.400 Friend and ten open their mouths. I can't wait here 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:01.240 what they got to say. 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