Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center podcast. I'm Logan Paulson. Here
Speaker 1: is fred Smooth. I'm here and that is Santana Moss.
Speaker 2: Guys, President, President, What you say when President Frederick?
Speaker 3: President?
Speaker 1: You guys get on that boat over memoring all day weekend.
Speaker 4: You know, I stay off for both.
Speaker 1: You stay up for boat.
Speaker 3: I was waiting on Free to pick me up.
Speaker 4: He's alive, counting.
Speaker 1: So I got a fun game for us today. All right,
Speaker 1: it's called overthrown, underthrown on the money. Okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to provide stats to you four players on the Commanders,
Speaker 1: and you tell me if that's way too high, if
Speaker 1: it's underthrown, or if I am on the money.
Speaker 4: All right, gotch you?
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're gonna start with sam Howell. Samuel Samuel Howell, Okay,
Speaker 1: sixty six point three completion percentage two and sixty yards.
Speaker 1: This nice twenty three touchdown touchdowns and fifteen interceptions. What
Speaker 1: do you think? Am I on the money? I think
Speaker 1: I'm on the money.
Speaker 2: I think you underthrown this ball underthrown, and I think
Speaker 2: this these stat line might get him fired. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this is not a good step. This
Speaker 2: is not a playoff quarter.
Speaker 1: Bit it's like right in the middle. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: right around below average. It's like it's nineteen nineteen. It's
Speaker 1: like Chakoby Brissett last year.
Speaker 3: I know, I kind of could live with this.
Speaker 5: If we run the ball well and we got a
Speaker 5: receiver two with a thousand plus yards, I can live
Speaker 5: with it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give I'm gonna just I'm gonna caut myself
Speaker 1: in the question. I think the yardage is a little
Speaker 1: low this, but I think I.
Speaker 3: Like the picks. I don't like the fifteen picks.
Speaker 1: But I think he's a rookie. He's a rookie player.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we don't want to see him in the
Speaker 5: foot before shoot him in a hand, rather before he
Speaker 5: get out there and throw a ball.
Speaker 1: So fifteen picks overthrown, underthrown, I say did though.
Speaker 3: I just don't like the picks.
Speaker 4: No, I say this is under thrown, under throw.
Speaker 2: Not enough yardage, not enough touchdown seventeen games.
Speaker 4: Think about this. If he has two.
Speaker 2: Thousand yard receivers Johann and McLaurin, he ain't got but
Speaker 2: eight hundred more.
Speaker 4: He ought to get a tight ends in the running back.
Speaker 2: I see him going more like thirty eight, thirty nine, Yes,
Speaker 2: three thousands.
Speaker 1: I thought I could I could get on with like
Speaker 1: thirty two to thirty five.
Speaker 5: I think you know, they gotta crawl when he walks,
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm okay with the twenty.
Speaker 2: He was a massive passing wrong as the ball around
Speaker 2: the yard at North Carolina.
Speaker 1: I know he did. I feel like he gonna say,
Speaker 1: are they gonna give him the keys to the car
Speaker 1: in the first year? Because right no, right now, this
Speaker 1: is the nineteenth grated quarterback in the NFL. That's what
Speaker 1: this stat line is.
Speaker 4: And I think, I think this kid could be better,
Speaker 4: and now he.
Speaker 1: Can be better. But what's he gonna be your one?
Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna spoon feed him like he's
Speaker 2: a rookie. Okay, I just don't think. I don't think
Speaker 2: coach b Enemy is gonnao. I think Coach Bingmy gonna
Speaker 2: say get out here and do your job.
Speaker 1: So what if I told you that style line I
Speaker 1: just said, yeah, was Dak Prescott's scout stat line for
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 4: And I tell you he's stunk last year.
Speaker 1: He also missed a couple of games, So I think
Speaker 1: I think that's why the yardist number is a little
Speaker 1: low for me. Yeah right, But would you say, so what,
Speaker 1: so what does this look like for him? You said
Speaker 1: thirty five hundred? What you said? You said thirty nine nine?
Speaker 1: Classic Fredswood. I think that's an overthrow.
Speaker 3: But here, I say just about it.
Speaker 5: At three thousand, he's going to have a heap of touchdowns.
Speaker 3: I say, I take some of the picks off.
Speaker 5: I understand a young guy hasn't you know, been out
Speaker 5: there enough. He's probably going to have some of them
Speaker 5: setbacks and throw some picks. But I don't want to
Speaker 5: see fifteen, right, I mean, I'm not even gonna I'm
Speaker 5: not even gonna put that in the air in the
Speaker 5: atmosphere for him. And I don't want to see fifteen
Speaker 5: put like this.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you something. Are these numbers good enough
Speaker 4: to make it to the playoffs?
Speaker 1: If the defense, if the defense is the top five,
Speaker 1: twenty worst eight you've seen words, bro I have?
Speaker 4: I mean, we didn't make it.
Speaker 5: I've seen a super Bowl team quarterback then then throw
Speaker 5: for that many y'all we talked about.
Speaker 1: So I'll say this. I say that this is that
Speaker 1: is a low number yardage wise, right, The defense is
Speaker 1: going to have to be like the number one rated
Speaker 1: defense and our rushing attask gonna need to be top ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think either one of those things are like
Speaker 1: a lock. I think defense probably top five. I think
Speaker 1: Russian attack probably top fifteen. If that's the case, he's
Speaker 1: got to be a top he's got to be a
Speaker 1: top fifteen quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think that these numbers aren't that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just not playoffs numbers, all right.
Speaker 1: So let's move on to Diammy Brown. Right, And I
Speaker 1: just went crazy here. I just went actually, Jason Jason
Speaker 1: producer probably with these numbers. And I think Jason it
Speaker 1: slipped out a little bit. All right, So he has
Speaker 1: So if I said he had forty six receptions, right
Speaker 1: for seven hundred and twenty four yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 4: He's your fourth receiver. Yeah. I mean if your fourth receiver.
Speaker 2: Has seven hundred, you are five thousand year old pass.
Speaker 1: I mean I'll just say, YEAHD one was gonna be
Speaker 1: thrown for six thousand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I think this was what if? What if?
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're thinking though, I mean, if somebody get hurt,
Speaker 5: what if his role changes? Look, I'm like this and
Speaker 5: This is my opinion. I will hope to see that
Speaker 5: he put up those numbers, but I will say, if
Speaker 5: you ask me right now today, you overthrown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: But I would love to see.
Speaker 5: Diami Brown go out there and and rekindle that flame
Speaker 5: that he had or that that and be able to
Speaker 5: come in because I want him to be used only
Speaker 5: for the you know, for the fact that him and
Speaker 5: Sam know each other. I want them to bring him
Speaker 5: in in certain packages and say this this thing going
Speaker 5: to too and they can't stop y'all because y'all have
Speaker 5: the chemistry y'all have you know, y'all have that history.
Speaker 3: So I would love to see him put up those.
Speaker 2: Now I go out on the limb and say he
Speaker 2: could lead the team in average per catch.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that. I think he is because he.
Speaker 2: A big play hitter and he might not have the
Speaker 2: catches that the guys got, but he could accumulate enough
Speaker 2: yeards through his george.
Speaker 1: And that's a good point because I do think when
Speaker 1: you look at Andy Reid's offense in Kansas City, the
Speaker 1: one that Ebu was a part of his each receiver
Speaker 1: had a role. Martez Valdez standing had that deep role, right,
Speaker 1: and he had a really high you know, Juju was
Speaker 1: the position, and then Tony was the gadget guy, right,
Speaker 1: so everyone kind of had their role. So I do
Speaker 1: think there is a role. I think that's a really
Speaker 1: nice kind of on the money mark throw. There is
Speaker 1: that he leads the team in yards per reception. But
Speaker 1: I think this is a little bit high. That's a
Speaker 1: little bits.
Speaker 4: Overthrown and picked off by me. You know, tip ball
Speaker 4: is aye ball.
Speaker 1: And so the comparison, these are Darius Slayton's stats from
Speaker 1: last year, and Darius Slayton was the number one receiver
Speaker 1: for most of the season for the Giant the Giants, right,
Speaker 1: And so with the Giants, I think they had a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries and Darius Layton took on a much
Speaker 1: larger role yes the season went on. I think that's
Speaker 1: why his numbers were so high. So I think we agree.
Speaker 1: And if his role changes, if if he becomes the
Speaker 1: true three, maybe that's something that happens, but I think
Speaker 1: it's probably more in that. If you had to give
Speaker 1: him a number, what do you think?
Speaker 4: I think five a good round number, five hundred, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think four.
Speaker 5: To fifty five, Yeah, four eighty four touchdowns, four touchdowns
Speaker 5: at least because he's a deep three.
Speaker 2: So I gotta believe it. You get a couple, He's
Speaker 2: gonna get a couple on something.
Speaker 1: Like Aldrick Robinson back when when was that twenty twelve
Speaker 1: that was like his.
Speaker 3: Role asy getting them things.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go on to Johann Dotson. You're ready.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you can see this already. So
Speaker 1: ninety five receptions.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of receipts.
Speaker 1: Eleven hundred and ninety six yards and seven touchdowns.
Speaker 5: I see money on the money on the money. Wow,
Speaker 5: I like I told you, man, I think hoghy of
Speaker 5: the kid man. He showed last year that he can
Speaker 5: be a number one in anybody off How.
Speaker 1: Many catches did Terry have last year? Seventy something, So
Speaker 1: we're just going to be on offense that much more
Speaker 1: that he can have. I have one hundred.
Speaker 3: You got to pass thinks no.
Speaker 5: Last year, if we just want to talk about, not
Speaker 5: talking about the quarterbacks, just talk about the opportunities, Terry
Speaker 5: wasn't getting a lot of opportunities. At one point, he wouldn't.
Speaker 5: He wanted to tell Honeke got in the game. So
Speaker 5: I tell you this. If they going the way they
Speaker 5: was going last year, if it's trending the way Johann
Speaker 5: was trending last year at the gate, and he doesn't
Speaker 5: have a set back and get hurt, you know, have
Speaker 5: a ham stream pull, he probably gonna get ninety five
Speaker 5: last year receptions.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean he was number one threat at one point.
Speaker 1: So the producer just said Terry had seventy seven catches
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 4: I thought it was seven.
Speaker 2: We got a legit guy that knows how to He's
Speaker 2: about the minutia, that love about the enemy.
Speaker 1: Last week of practice, man, we saw him coaching the
Speaker 1: route depths.
Speaker 2: Man just just own it to the point where every
Speaker 2: little catch matters. I watched Andy Reid turned Todd Pinkston
Speaker 2: into a go to receive.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, they know how
Speaker 2: to get while our receivers open, and we got some
Speaker 2: guys that gonna catch the ball. We're gonna be a
Speaker 2: better passing office than people think we are.
Speaker 1: I agree, I think we're gonna be better. Also, did
Speaker 1: I tell you I saw you be you know, get
Speaker 1: after Antonio Gibson for going the wrong direction out of
Speaker 1: the huddle. Yeah last week, man, he is own it
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 4: Save no wasted motion, Yeah, no wasted right.
Speaker 1: So let me say this, So this seems just a
Speaker 1: little high to me. I mean, are we do Are
Speaker 1: we gonna have two receivers with ninety plus catches?
Speaker 4: I think we can have two thousand yard receiver.
Speaker 1: I think so too. But I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 1: have one ninety five catches.
Speaker 5: One look right and like and and who's to say
Speaker 5: that Terry won't have seventy again and get what he
Speaker 5: gets and this guy have ninety something.
Speaker 4: I think both.
Speaker 1: What's the most receptions you had in New year, Tenna?
Speaker 5: The most I had in your team was ninety two,
Speaker 5: I believe ninety ten.
Speaker 3: And I was second in the league that year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just a lot. That's a lot, a lot
Speaker 1: of catches, man. So what I'll say is, I think
Speaker 1: the yardage is doable. You know, eleven hundred yards. I
Speaker 1: think that's doable. I think, I wa, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: my range to say nine hundred to eleven hundred yards.
Speaker 1: I think that's right on the money. I think seven
Speaker 1: touchdowns feels good that that catch number just seems so.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep him in the seventies.
Speaker 2: I think if you got two number two guys that
Speaker 2: could be number one, seventy five catches each sounds.
Speaker 5: Seventy is seventy is is is.
Speaker 3: Beyond great to me, you know, because you can get
Speaker 3: a lot of done.
Speaker 5: You could get you can, you can you can be
Speaker 5: really dominant with seventy sixty seventy catches.
Speaker 4: Kelsey had ninety to one hundred.
Speaker 3: Kitchenes had.
Speaker 1: So if Kelsey had one hundred catches last year, what
Speaker 1: is the number two guy in Kansas City? I think
Speaker 1: that would be a really good indicator because that that
Speaker 1: offense is about as healthy as you can get.
Speaker 4: But the quarterback also threw for five thousands, right, So that's.
Speaker 1: What we're talking.
Speaker 5: Juju had nine hundred yards last year, with Kelsey having
Speaker 5: one hundred.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and you forget about you had.
Speaker 3: Probably like seventy catches, and so I think.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get something like that. One guy
Speaker 1: is gonna have ninety eighty ninety catches. Oh he had
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten catches pure so yeah, So like
Speaker 1: I think that's a little steep. So I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say for Jahan, he's gonna have seventy five
Speaker 1: catches for just over one thousand.
Speaker 4: Can we agree that Kelsey is the chain mover, so he's.
Speaker 1: Going to get more touches. So who's that guy in
Speaker 1: this office?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 4: Who is the chain move I think Johann is the change.
Speaker 5: Maybe, but I honestly think to Logan gonna have a
Speaker 5: better year, just Thomas Logan Thomas.
Speaker 3: But we know we ain't talking about you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but your Logan Logan Thomas would have a better
Speaker 5: year just knowing that this is his year two from that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that knee injury, and think about it. Last year, I
Speaker 5: think a lot of stuff was forced to see him
Speaker 5: out there pressing too early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was pressing a lot.
Speaker 5: He's gonna be that escape, He's gonna be that safety
Speaker 5: net for Sam. He's gonna be that guy over the
Speaker 5: ball in the middle of the field. He's gonna be
Speaker 5: playing that role what Heineke took advantage of before he
Speaker 5: got injured, before Logan got injured, and he got such.
Speaker 2: A big catch rady as that he's your bad he's
Speaker 2: your bad ball bringer down like he brings down bad
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Feel like those one hundred and ten catches that Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey has, yeah, you know, Logan gets twenty five of those,
Speaker 1: John Bates, Yeah, John Baits gets fifteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever it is, and Turner becomes your ribs one, right,
Speaker 4: And I.
Speaker 1: Think that's how it's gonna go. So if I told
Speaker 1: you that johns stats had just read off where Devonte
Speaker 1: Smith from last year, what would you say?
Speaker 4: I say, he can do it.
Speaker 1: I know he can do it, but like, is there enough?
Speaker 2: I just think I just think we have a we
Speaker 2: got this threesome with Samuel, and I just think they
Speaker 2: are going to divide.
Speaker 4: Let's just say, out of these guys, I.
Speaker 1: Know, but you really got you got three, you got
Speaker 1: two pass catching tight ends, you got a pass catching
Speaker 1: running back. I think it's just there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people who deserve touches will get touches. Yeah, And there's
Speaker 1: just there's not that many times to throw the football.
Speaker 2: Right, four hundred completions for sam Let's just say four hundred,
Speaker 2: all right, I can go seventy to seventy.
Speaker 4: There's one forty nothing to the top two.
Speaker 1: Receivers, yeah, and then fifty to Curtis and you got
Speaker 1: fifty the logan, So I.
Speaker 4: Just see the ball being dispeared pretty good.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, So let's get to the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball here. Let's talk about Chase Young
Speaker 1: Sixty five total tackles, six sacks, three forest fumbles. Do
Speaker 1: you think that's on the money? Overthrown or underthrown?
Speaker 2: I think that's underthrown. You threw a duck in there
Speaker 2: with a kangaroo. Get listen to me.
Speaker 1: What is he Okay? What has he done so far?
Speaker 4: This is what I feel?
Speaker 2: Tell me, you know, like I know, motivation for football
Speaker 2: players is everything.
Speaker 4: And pick up his fifty year options.
Speaker 2: Just coming out for injury, seem to be there forgotten
Speaker 2: about gym that diamond, Like he's going to show back
Speaker 2: up and literally pretty much have his best year.
Speaker 4: We always have. Our best year is on country.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, so I'll say this and again,
Speaker 1: I hope Chase has an excellent year. I think he's
Speaker 1: capable of having an excellent year. But what is he
Speaker 1: done recently to show you that he's cap.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do it all recently. He coming out
Speaker 2: the injury, he was hurt. Yeah, he had a slow
Speaker 2: start to the second year. But like I said, we
Speaker 2: are mentally we are mentally built when people make us
Speaker 2: an underdog to outperformer.
Speaker 5: I also think he's a different player now. You know
Speaker 5: last year you saw when he came back he was
Speaker 5: paying close attention to detail. Last year, he wasn't doing
Speaker 5: that thing that he did the year you know before
Speaker 5: he got hurt, where he was just running there trying
Speaker 5: to get sacks. Now he was set in the edge.
Speaker 5: He played within the scheme.
Speaker 1: Last year.
Speaker 4: You saw that.
Speaker 5: I saw that, you know what I mean, it was
Speaker 5: glaring that and I talked to him briefly and he say, man,
Speaker 5: you know they gonna feel me this time around. And
Speaker 5: you saw you saw flashes of that last year, even
Speaker 5: with that big Fokyo brace on ye.
Speaker 3: He was showing up in the paint.
Speaker 4: He was showing up where he.
Speaker 3: Needed to be at.
Speaker 5: So just imagine a guy that had that same hunger
Speaker 5: and desire and knowing like like like Smooth just talked
Speaker 5: about knowing that, you know, he got added chip to
Speaker 5: have on his back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And the two Pro Bowl is inside the double teams.
Speaker 2: What happened inside, He's probably gonna get more one on
Speaker 2: one uh, I mean blockers this year than he ever got.
Speaker 1: Also saying schematically though, one of the things about this
Speaker 1: defense is is that end has to rush off of
Speaker 1: the three technique a lot. It's not the defensive end
Speaker 1: show like a lot of teams here, it's it's the
Speaker 1: three technique interior player that's going to affect his ability
Speaker 1: to be super productive. I mean Montest had nine last year, right,
Speaker 1: is that correct? Nine? So doing that, I mean he
Speaker 1: had in his Pro Bowl year eight right?
Speaker 3: Eight or nine?
Speaker 1: Right? He gets seven?
Speaker 4: So if he had seven in his Pro.
Speaker 5: Bowl year and he was young and not there his
Speaker 5: playing running.
Speaker 3: Wow, he's a little wiser. I give him. I'll give
Speaker 3: him a little more.
Speaker 1: So what's the number one, I give him eleven, eleven.
Speaker 4: I'll give him eleven sacks.
Speaker 3: I'll give him around. I'll give him nine.
Speaker 1: Or ten, nine or ten. I feel I like nine
Speaker 1: or ten. So what if I told you those stats
Speaker 1: were DeMarcus Lawrence from last year Dallas, doesn't shock.
Speaker 4: Me because he did yeah down here that ye, yeah,
Speaker 4: he had.
Speaker 1: But we think it's going to be chasing, gonna be
Speaker 1: better this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Michael Parsons then took some of his life.
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true, no question. All right. So now
Speaker 1: Fred your favorite yep, the secondary, Yes, let's talk all right.
Speaker 1: So nineteen point seven opponent points per game. Okay, I
Speaker 1: know that's a defensive stat but you know, I think
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good indicator of defensive production. Two hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety two opposing yards per game passing yards, that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good number. And seventeen interceptions. What do you
Speaker 1: think is that.
Speaker 4: Seventeen exceptions that's averaged one interception a game.
Speaker 1: That'd be pretty good.
Speaker 4: So you're giving the team.
Speaker 2: A short feel, maybe turning the ball over at the
Speaker 2: right time one time.
Speaker 4: A game, but I will take that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three hundred almost three hundred passing yards.
Speaker 4: I think you got to get that down about one
Speaker 4: sixty I mean to sixty.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, talk about two sixty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're telling me in the fourth quarter you're
Speaker 2: making sure they don't get the yards. Then yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: and this what it's about. In nineteen points a game.
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty good. I think you can win
Speaker 2: like that, Yeah, queen like this. So I think these
Speaker 2: numbers are winning numbers.
Speaker 3: What you got great numbers?
Speaker 5: I mean I mean, if you can get that many
Speaker 5: interceptions alone.
Speaker 3: To me, that's that's that's jumps off the page. But
Speaker 3: I definitely believe if.
Speaker 5: A team, if you're defense holding the teams to around
Speaker 5: nineteen points offensively, you should be able to win those games.
Speaker 5: You should be in those games or winning those games.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's just for analysis purposes. These were the ego
Speaker 1: statistics from last year. Right, So they had a couple
Speaker 1: of guys with a whole bunch of interceptions at the
Speaker 1: guy Gardner with six, right, six, and they had to
Speaker 1: play with four or whatever it was said, a couple
Speaker 1: with a lot of interceptions. Do we have enough playmakers
Speaker 1: in the back end? Yes? You always talk about how
Speaker 1: he's a disruptor or he's a turnover guy, right, Do
Speaker 1: we have enough turnover guys?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Full look, coming off his best turnover year, Phillips is
Speaker 2: a turnover magnet. I'm giving right now, I'm giving four
Speaker 2: of six picks. That's the same amount I had my
Speaker 2: rookie year. Six pictures, my rookie has six pigs.
Speaker 1: It's a good flex by you.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm just saying, at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: it will.
Speaker 2: Be I think we got the guys to do it
Speaker 2: and defro found the ball last year. I'm looking for
Speaker 2: Cam Curll to have a bounce back year in the
Speaker 2: ball this year.
Speaker 1: One of me tanna is Percy Yeah, if he's playing
Speaker 1: the true post, because I think he's got more range.
Speaker 5: And then Kwan, Yeah, we're forgetting about Quan Mark got
Speaker 5: all about Kwan Yeah. I mean, I just feel like
Speaker 5: we have we have with the takes in the secondary.
Speaker 5: One of the things that stood out to me is
Speaker 5: just you know, when you have those guys up front, man,
Speaker 5: you don't have to be the best in the back end.
Speaker 5: And I think we have some better guys now at
Speaker 5: that position that's going to be able to get their
Speaker 5: hands on a lot of balls. So they better be ready.
Speaker 5: They be in front of those drug machines before and
Speaker 5: after practice.
Speaker 2: If I was the defensive backfield, I would take my
Speaker 2: d lines down there to the offensive line and tell
Speaker 2: them to work on block because when I get my
Speaker 2: hand on the ball, y'all need to learn how to
Speaker 2: block for me.
Speaker 1: All right. So we'll say that the Eagles played a
Speaker 1: lot of that soft cover three last year. I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons the yards was so high.
Speaker 1: Jack's defense is gonna be a little bit more aggressive. Also,
Speaker 1: Philly played with the lead a lot, so they saw
Speaker 1: more passes. Yes, you are so keimn This offense provide
Speaker 1: the scaffolding you know, to stress defenses, to stress opponent
Speaker 1: offenses the same way that Philly's offense trusts.
Speaker 4: When your offense gives you the lead.
Speaker 2: As a cornerback, I can play a lot looser and
Speaker 2: I can go at the balls that I normally wouldn't
Speaker 2: go there. And when you play with the league, guess
Speaker 2: who else benefits? The pass rushes. The pass rushers benefits,
Speaker 2: so not a sect total goes.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Ken the offense do that.
Speaker 2: I think I think after first four weeks, the unpredictability
Speaker 2: of the offense, I think it's gonna keep defenses on
Speaker 2: their heels. They don't know what to study. Who are
Speaker 2: they gonna study for the first month to stop us?
Speaker 4: Kansas City?
Speaker 5: They true, they gonna look at Kansas City. They're gonna
Speaker 5: look for They're gonna look for indicators. You know that
Speaker 5: they're gonna look for a formation.
Speaker 4: But it's nothing.
Speaker 5: But the thing that's gonna be different is the skill players.
Speaker 5: The players are a lot different. So to me, I
Speaker 5: believe Kansas City made up a lot of the you
Speaker 5: know where they was lacking in with the skill position,
Speaker 5: with the quarterback just being so elusive, so damn you
Speaker 5: know able to you know, uh you know, uh, you
Speaker 5: know do some of the things you know off schedule
Speaker 5: that most quarterbacks don't.
Speaker 3: You have these guys here. We talked about it on
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 5: If you get that ball out in the timely fashion
Speaker 5: and let these guys do work. We have from pound
Speaker 5: for pounds, some of the best at their position, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, but also just to play Devil's advocate, because that's
Speaker 1: what I'm here for, right is they have Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, and we're talking about a guy that
Speaker 1: through for five MVP of the NFL. He elevates everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, and so I think as good as the
Speaker 1: skill position players are here Ken, Sam Howell.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you what you are, Logan.
Speaker 3: I just feel like Sam don't have to do as
Speaker 3: much as Patrick.
Speaker 2: When you have the guys, I'm gonna tell you who
Speaker 2: you are. I ever walked into a store down south
Speaker 2: for gas station and then you see that pickle pig
Speaker 2: feet right there on the right there on the job
Speaker 2: right there that layers pickle pe feet.
Speaker 4: That's who you are. Nobody wants it. We all admire.
Speaker 4: We look at the pickle pig feet and this logan.
Speaker 1: Fred, I just gotta be here to just bring you
Speaker 1: back to earth because you're saying, Oh, this offense is
Speaker 1: gonna be and I'm just saying, and I want the
Speaker 1: offense to be good. I think it's gonna be good.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be good too.
Speaker 1: But it's like Ken they have, they have the best
Speaker 1: player in football right now, the headsas City.
Speaker 4: Yes they do.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is better scheme, better quarterback. I do
Speaker 2: think Sam Howe is better than Heinike. I know you
Speaker 2: love your Heinekee.
Speaker 1: Now I like.
Speaker 4: He's better than Conston Wins.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree.
Speaker 4: So I think that alone.
Speaker 1: But I also think there's a potential there. There's a
Speaker 1: potential there. That's what I think is gonna happen. So
Speaker 1: with the Eagles, secondary is that we over overthrown on
Speaker 1: the money.
Speaker 4: I think we own the money.
Speaker 1: Okayney, you said the yards might be all high. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's talk about this something really interesting and I'm
Speaker 1: really excited to talk to you guys about it because
Speaker 1: you guys played a lot of football better around good leaders.
Speaker 1: And this is an interesting time year because it's where
Speaker 1: leadership is kind of developed.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: What makes a good leader? Okay, and let's talk about
Speaker 1: it specifically with related to Sam Howell. How does he
Speaker 1: become a good leader? What do you need to see
Speaker 1: from him to say that, like, this is his team
Speaker 1: and he's leading it.
Speaker 5: All I need to see from day one is how
Speaker 5: he takes command of that huddle. I can say that
Speaker 5: stands out more than anything. One of the things I
Speaker 5: give a lot of credit to RG three being that
Speaker 5: he was young. He had command from day one. We
Speaker 5: believed in this guy before we even saw him. I mean,
Speaker 5: he ran two plays and I was a believer, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean that twenty twelve season it was
Speaker 5: unbelievable because he had command and it was nothing that
Speaker 5: he said that I didn't believe he couldn't do, Like
Speaker 5: he would come in that huddle. I got this, you know,
Speaker 5: and I below and behold he.
Speaker 3: Went out there and made a play.
Speaker 5: So take command, you know, be show these guys that
Speaker 5: you're going to stand on everything that you say and
Speaker 5: get the right guy to ball, and trust me, you
Speaker 5: will have everybody at the palm of your hand.
Speaker 2: You know, I got these different things in my head
Speaker 2: that I go through when it comes to quarterbacks. You know,
Speaker 2: you know about my married but you also know about
Speaker 2: my ugly quarterback clause. You know, the attractive quarterbacks are
Speaker 2: what this.
Speaker 4: League is about.
Speaker 1: You think he's ugly?
Speaker 4: Who Sam? Do you think he's a truck No? I
Speaker 4: think Sam Hows is attractive tructor man.
Speaker 1: That's all right. Now, I'm here with you, Fred, I'm supporting.
Speaker 2: No, No, listen, I think, like Tanner said, controlling their
Speaker 2: huddle and everything else come from.
Speaker 4: Your play say.
Speaker 2: Everything else comes from like this is what I want
Speaker 2: him to do. I want to see that first touchdown
Speaker 2: of the year, the first touchdown of the year he throws,
Speaker 2: gonna gravitate everybody towards him anyway. He's he's and then
Speaker 2: he comes off as one of the guys. I've been
Speaker 2: around him, and he just he's quiet. He's my manner.
Speaker 2: And you know, some quarterbacks stand up with it. They
Speaker 2: want to command the room.
Speaker 4: He's just more of all right, let me go out here,
Speaker 4: let me do my job. So I think everything gonna
Speaker 4: come from him.
Speaker 5: But I think also if you watched him play in
Speaker 5: the preseason last year, and you watched him playing that
Speaker 5: last game, you know against the Cowboys, what he showed
Speaker 5: also that that had everyone gravitate to him as just
Speaker 5: his play making a bit. He didn't necessarily have to
Speaker 5: throw the proper pass to go out there and move
Speaker 5: the chains. He would add live and do something with
Speaker 5: his feet that allowed the office to continue to move
Speaker 5: the ball down the field. And that gets everybody ignite.
Speaker 5: That gets everybody on your side because at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, you're not letting us, you're not letting
Speaker 5: us fail, you're not letting us down be a loss
Speaker 5: of down.
Speaker 3: They're going to go out there and find a way
Speaker 3: to get it done.
Speaker 1: I will say this, I think there's two types of
Speaker 1: leaders at any level of football. Right. There's the guy
Speaker 1: who's like the character leader, there's everything right, but that
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily the best football player. And they're like a fabric.
Speaker 5: Guy that holds Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins a great example, Kendrick Golson, Lorenzoe, Alexander guys
Speaker 1: who were solid pros but never kind of reached that,
Speaker 1: but really good leaders in the locker mentors. And then
Speaker 1: I think the other type leader is guys who are
Speaker 1: just ballers, Like it doesn't really matter what kind of
Speaker 1: character they have, if they're if they are helping you
Speaker 1: win football games. That grab it, that that brings people
Speaker 1: in somehow.
Speaker 4: Let me let me ask you just didn't care?
Speaker 3: Boy? What point we go nowhere with him?
Speaker 5: But guess what when you give him that ball and
Speaker 5: then let him go and do his thing?
Speaker 2: Well, what point do y'all want to see Sam RiPP
Speaker 2: into somebody?
Speaker 4: Like? Because it got to happen.
Speaker 2: At one point, Like, at what point does he get
Speaker 2: out of the choir zone and maybe were down twenty
Speaker 2: in the second quarter? Like, that's that's what I want
Speaker 2: to see. I want to see how he reacts and
Speaker 2: what happens when he do ripping.
Speaker 5: I don't think you necessarily have to get that from
Speaker 5: a quarterback because I you know, I played with Mark
Speaker 5: Brunell and he was a leader amongst leaders, and Mark Burnell,
Speaker 5: it wasn't it wasn't a dull moment in the huddle.
Speaker 5: Even when it was time to be serious, he found
Speaker 5: a way to get us focused by saying a joke
Speaker 5: by saying, you know, doing something silly, and guess what
Speaker 5: he responded by making a play. So you don't necessarily
Speaker 5: like I see those guys like you know, Manny when
Speaker 5: he was in control of history and how him and
Speaker 5: Reggie Waying was going to, you know, about to throw
Speaker 5: hands on the sideline because he didn't like the.
Speaker 3: Way Reggie did something.
Speaker 5: Then I saw how Tom did when we practiced with
Speaker 5: those guys. He was ripping you know what in them.
Speaker 5: I don't respond from quarterbacks like that. I remember Chad
Speaker 5: Pennington saying something to me and I just looked at him, like, boy,
Speaker 5: you don't even know to have I'm just I'm just
Speaker 5: I just look like this. You understand, because honestly, I
Speaker 5: don't respond from fear.
Speaker 4: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't scare me into doing something. You don't do
Speaker 3: that because I'm I'm gonna be sharp.
Speaker 5: You understand I'm coming to work, so you don't have
Speaker 5: to tell me now if I mess up. I know
Speaker 5: I messed up before you did, so you don't have to.
Speaker 5: You know, you don't have to remind me. But I
Speaker 5: don't think Sam is that kind of guy. I look
Speaker 5: at his demeanor I don't think you going to ever
Speaker 5: see him pull a guy to the side and rip
Speaker 5: a hole. You might say, come on, fellers, let's do it,
Speaker 5: you know, settle down, you know, And that's what you
Speaker 5: need sometime a guy, just to re ensure that, hey,
Speaker 5: we got a job at you know, we gotta we
Speaker 5: gotta task to complete, and let's go out here and
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the reasons why this
Speaker 1: is such a hard conversation conversation tennis, because there's different
Speaker 1: leadership styles. You know, Mark Rudell did that. Kirk had
Speaker 1: his own very unique leadership style, right, especially when he's
Speaker 1: a starter, like he would yell at guys, but he
Speaker 1: was also kind of funny. He was one of the guys,
Speaker 1: but he was all so the quarterback, right, Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: when I was in Atlanta, awesome leader. Right, would yell,
Speaker 1: would cuss guys out like you've never seen, but also
Speaker 1: would hang on the locker room play ping pong, ball,
Speaker 1: ping pong after like was a good dude. So it's
Speaker 1: just about finding I think that balance of what you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable doing, how it matches with your play, and.
Speaker 5: Then that quarterback has to be solid. I mean when
Speaker 5: I say solid, he could do no wrong for him
Speaker 5: to even have that authority to yell at me, you understand, like,
Speaker 5: you better be out there, you better be pinpoint shopping
Speaker 5: everything you do. If you're going, you have to design
Speaker 5: to raise your voice.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm fair with Kirk Couzins. Are you
Speaker 2: ready to say that Kirk Couzins is a better banker
Speaker 2: than he is a quarterback? It could be my banker,
Speaker 2: collect But when it comes to a football player, now,
Speaker 2: where's Kirk?
Speaker 3: Credit man?
Speaker 1: I like Kirk? I like because so what I want
Speaker 1: to say about Kirk is like he's a guy that
Speaker 1: This is what I like in a football player. Right,
Speaker 1: Obviously I like the freak talent, right, Julio Jones, Hopkins,
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, I'm about that right. The next thing I
Speaker 1: like is dude to our overachievers who squeezed every ounce
Speaker 1: of what they had out of what they were given.
Speaker 1: And there's no doubt my mind cursed on that he's
Speaker 1: from a leadership standpoint, He's in that from a place
Speaker 1: and so yes, and so I love that. I respect that.
Speaker 1: And Danny were talking about this, like I'm okay if
Speaker 1: Kirk yells at me because I know he's he's gonna
Speaker 1: stand putting in the work. And I'm okay with that
Speaker 1: same thing with Matt Ryan, Like you can yell at
Speaker 1: me because I know you're doing it. The thing that
Speaker 1: would get me is if you're not putting in the
Speaker 1: work and you're yelling at me and I'm putting in
Speaker 1: everything I got, you better be doing. You better be
Speaker 1: doing something real special.
Speaker 5: And one of the things I canna say about Kirk
Speaker 5: too man like he didn't necessarily have to he was
Speaker 5: so sharp. You know, I remember a couple of players
Speaker 5: that I played with him, and I play more than
Speaker 5: a couple.
Speaker 3: I just automatically knew the ball was.
Speaker 5: Gonna come at a timely fashion and I was gonna
Speaker 5: have a chance to do something with it. I never
Speaker 5: hesitated when he was at quarterback, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And that's crazy because you know, you watch them in
Speaker 5: practice and you get a chance to go through those
Speaker 5: reps and you like, get to my spot turning around
Speaker 5: beause Kurt gonna throw that, but it's gonna be right
Speaker 5: on time and I'm gonna be able to GetUp. Feel So,
Speaker 5: when you have a quarterback that's doing things like that,
Speaker 5: you necessarily don't have to even you shouldn't be the
Speaker 5: one that even get yelled at, because you know he's
Speaker 5: gonna be on points, so you have to be on point.
Speaker 5: So summertime you're talking about leadership skills, when you have
Speaker 5: a guy that's laser shop, you're gonna be laser shop.
Speaker 5: And even if you off a bit, he knows that
Speaker 5: you can just look at him and say that that
Speaker 5: was on me and that quarterback No, okay, he ain't
Speaker 5: got to worry about hi again because he's already letting me.
Speaker 5: He's addressing the situation before I even allow him or
Speaker 5: I had.
Speaker 3: To get on him.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. And I think that's the interesting interesting
Speaker 1: thing about the quarterback, right, is that different kind of
Speaker 1: leadership styles lead to different results. But they gotta be sharp,
Speaker 1: they got to own it. I think an interesting guy
Speaker 1: is John Allen on this team, right, because he's got
Speaker 1: a lot of big personalities to navigate. If you were
Speaker 1: in that room, Fred, like, how would you go about that?
Speaker 4: He don't give an f Well, this is what you
Speaker 4: gotta understand by John Allen.
Speaker 2: He's military race, his daddy parents, mama in the military.
Speaker 4: He's trying to know nonsense. You know, when you read
Speaker 4: raised by military payer, he's the guy to handle that room.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: He cussing and fussing.
Speaker 4: Mean, listen, that's what you gotta do, especially with them
Speaker 4: d Linen.
Speaker 2: D Linen's are rowdy anyway, like they're rally by nature.
Speaker 2: So I think what John actually does besides the talking point,
Speaker 2: he just leaves. By example, he goes out there and
Speaker 2: kicked the ass of the guard in front of him,
Speaker 2: and he says, all right, if I can do it,
Speaker 2: you can go do it, and he holds him to
Speaker 2: a standard up. I don't care about all their talking.
Speaker 2: Show me he from Missouri, show me.
Speaker 5: I feel you on all that he does that, but
Speaker 5: he also ripped on you. I mean, god, bleep that.
Speaker 4: French may.
Speaker 5: When I say I watched this dude go out to
Speaker 5: d Lineman, I'm like, hold on, that's your boy.
Speaker 3: He was your boy five minutes ago, and you tear
Speaker 3: off into him.
Speaker 5: But now I like that about John because that shows
Speaker 5: you how much it means to him.
Speaker 3: I understand. And that was like.
Speaker 1: And you can lead it a little different as a
Speaker 1: d line.
Speaker 5: And that's what made me just, you know, admire London
Speaker 5: Fletcher because he had that same kind of demeanor. Now
Speaker 5: London was he kind of gave you his message a
Speaker 5: little differently. But if he had to say, if he
Speaker 5: had to say something he gonna say, he has said.
Speaker 3: It might not been directly. He'll do it indirectly. But
Speaker 3: you everybody got the mess.
Speaker 1: You remember London restarting practices. Remember that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like I've seen him up.
Speaker 1: He coaches with back up, He's like redoing this practice
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, you're like all right, and then
Speaker 1: all the coaches let's run it back. That's that's how
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 5: And so you expect a guy like that, and that's
Speaker 5: I'm a guy from the outside looking in. You know,
Speaker 5: John could have played with us because I see the
Speaker 5: way he handled those guys. I'm like, we had some
Speaker 5: knuckle heads, yes, you know what I'm saying, especially on
Speaker 5: that D line, and it was some heads that he
Speaker 5: would have had to turn and tell him like, look here, bro,
Speaker 5: we ain't going for that today, you know. And that's
Speaker 5: why you see those guys competing and play at that level.
Speaker 5: Our D line as good as they are for no
Speaker 5: reason one. They are all talented guys it was all
Speaker 5: first round, you know. But John Allen he ignites a
Speaker 5: lot more out of them, and he makes sure those
Speaker 5: guys come ready because he ain't settling for you coming
Speaker 5: miniocre like you saw when he had a bad game. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I just ain't play right, I ain't play good enough.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not going for that. And so I
Speaker 5: watched him talk about himself like that. Just imagine what
Speaker 5: he's telling those other guys.
Speaker 1: No, I totally agree, And I think there's another example
Speaker 1: of a guy who his play supports his leadership style.
Speaker 1: He can be aggressive, he's a good player because he's
Speaker 1: a Chris and I compare him to like Kendrick for example.
Speaker 1: We all remember Uncle Keed, right, unc Uncle Keed, Like
Speaker 1: he was much more quiet and how he let do
Speaker 1: his job and like, there's just different ways to be
Speaker 1: leaders on that group. John's got a very distinctile. And
Speaker 1: then Freddie you know you're here, Manuel Forbes is here.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about the secondary. It's kind of
Speaker 1: boring for me.
Speaker 4: But because you don't like you don't like, no.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about run fits No. So in
Speaker 1: the secondary, who's the leader right now?
Speaker 2: Caim Curl, Kim Crow I would say Cam Curl is
Speaker 2: the undisputed leader. Fuller is the most educated, but Fuller's
Speaker 2: quiet and Curl is more of the talker.
Speaker 1: You see him talking back there.
Speaker 4: I see him.
Speaker 2: I see him bring guys in and check them when
Speaker 2: something ain't going right. I see him on the sideline
Speaker 2: go talk to guys between things. So I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to say Cam Curl is the guy, not by default.
Speaker 4: He earned it.
Speaker 2: And you want to talk about overachieving, he is one
Speaker 2: of those guys.
Speaker 4: That came in and got every inch out of his table.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, I go with that when
Speaker 5: it comes to just what he did play wise, you know,
Speaker 5: but if I had to look at somebody and someone
Speaker 5: to give me, give me a little knowledge of the
Speaker 5: game and a little leadership from just being a vet,
Speaker 5: you know, I will lean on Fuller with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we.
Speaker 5: All measure guys by the play and say he's the guy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I remember when I came in here, David Patton, God
Speaker 5: bless the day. He was one of the wide receivers
Speaker 5: that had just came came to winning Super Bowl with
Speaker 5: New England, and I had thrash. You remember, you know,
Speaker 5: James trash and being that I was younger than those guys.
Speaker 5: I know, I was a big money guy, but I
Speaker 5: used to let those guys speak because that's how I
Speaker 5: was brought up. You know, let my others talk, you know,
Speaker 5: and d people like aunt Tana, you the guy, we
Speaker 5: just hear it.
Speaker 3: We just here be, you know, we want to hear disciples.
Speaker 1: And I looked at him like that's good leadership.
Speaker 5: It was a great leadership and I never forgot that.
Speaker 3: And he waited till we got to meet.
Speaker 5: He said, look here. He say, look here, we're gonna
Speaker 5: We're gonna go as far as you go. So he said,
Speaker 5: you're riding this thing. We're gonna ride with you. And
Speaker 5: I swear it made me just think, like I'm always.
Speaker 3: Being by example.
Speaker 4: I leave by example.
Speaker 3: I ain't got a rod rode with you.
Speaker 5: I don't like blowing smoke because I want to make
Speaker 5: sure that I'm always on minds and the way I'm
Speaker 5: gonna get on mine by saying less.
Speaker 3: I've always been a guy.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna sit here and scare you with no words.
Speaker 3: I don't look tough. I got a babyface, so I
Speaker 3: ain't trying to be tough.
Speaker 5: But I'm anna hitch in the mouth and you're gonna
Speaker 5: least expect like, oh man, I didn't know that was coming.
Speaker 5: And when you hit me in my mind, I'm anamile
Speaker 5: at you and get up and say do it again.
Speaker 5: So that was my thing, the lead by example and
Speaker 5: not be the guy to go out here doing this talking,
Speaker 5: but to know that I had two older guys that
Speaker 5: I grew up watching that was, you know, down for
Speaker 5: me to do it that way, that meant a lot
Speaker 5: to me, you understand.
Speaker 1: That kind of gives me chills, man Like, That's awesome leadership.
Speaker 1: That's so like, that's what leadership's about. Empowering younger guys
Speaker 1: to do that kind of thing. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: man like that. That's a special type of leader for sure.
Speaker 4: Yet you gotta have them all great teams got them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's and it's names you don't necessarily think about,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think there's probably some good leaders
Speaker 1: in this locker room right now that we haven't talked.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about Jeremy Reeves, guys leader. If you
Speaker 2: want to talk about DV, that gonna lead to Lee.
Speaker 4: My example, he's one of those.
Speaker 3: He did just that last year.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Man, that's that's a great point. All right. So
Speaker 1: time of year O T A three a lot of
Speaker 1: time with each other as a team. Do we have
Speaker 1: good stories of teams bonding? I know he probably got
Speaker 1: they gotta be podcasting print podcast appropriated. Yes, stories of
Speaker 1: teams coming together during face ree Ota. So min, mine's
Speaker 1: a little bit more chill. So like when I was
Speaker 1: older and I was on different teams, that's right, older
Speaker 1: as a player. Let's say that, all right, I would
Speaker 1: be in a different state. My family would stay here
Speaker 1: in Virginia, and I'd be with these young guys and
Speaker 1: I'd go we have dinner once a week during this
Speaker 1: time of year because everyone's feeling pretty good. You know,
Speaker 1: you go see a movie. And that was times we
Speaker 1: got to really like know people's personality, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think it's a it's a special time,
Speaker 1: Like when I think back about my time in the league,
Speaker 1: like those were the times you are like really special.
Speaker 1: They's coming to come to come together as a group.
Speaker 4: So I remember we signed a Big Day our gardener.
Speaker 1: This is a funny start.
Speaker 4: We signed Big.
Speaker 2: Day a gardener around this time, and people don't know
Speaker 2: who Darl Gardner is six eight, three hundred and fifty pals.
Speaker 1: Every time, every time you tell, the story gets bigger.
Speaker 1: But he is a big man's dude.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen to me. This dude, he's still growing it
Speaker 4: this say. You listen to me.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm the jokest in the locker room. I
Speaker 2: like to have fun. So I guess he attracted to me.
Speaker 2: And then I go home and I get a knock
Speaker 2: at the door. I'm not expecting anybody in this big
Speaker 2: Darryl Gardener, and he got a bag in his hand.
Speaker 2: He literally walked in the door. I did not invite
Speaker 2: him in. He moved in my house.
Speaker 4: Understand me. I'm a cooking breakfast in the morning for
Speaker 4: the dude dinner. I'm so scared. I had to come
Speaker 4: tell Marvin Luis, you got to get this dude out
Speaker 4: of my house. You understand, Because I couldn't get him out.
Speaker 4: So what happened now.
Speaker 3: He forced his hand.
Speaker 2: I told you I was in there cooking, cleaning for him.
Speaker 2: You need anything there.
Speaker 4: It was bad for me. I was a hostage in
Speaker 4: mown house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a scary story. You We'll talk to him. No,
Speaker 1: I don't probably keep the space right, he will take.
Speaker 5: Your house probably probably come looking for your house now,
Speaker 5: looking for him now, all right, man Fred moved moved
Speaker 5: to let me see time.
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