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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's

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Speaker 1: around the NFL our Week eighteen preview. A week in

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Speaker 1: the NFL unlike any week, and remember, of of course,

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Speaker 1: with Damar Hamlin and everything that continues to unfold around UH,

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Speaker 1: the Bill's safety. Dan hands this here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: how we doing boys? I think in higher spirits after

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Speaker 1: watching that press conference from the the University of Cincinnati, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Dr Timothy Pritz and Dr William Knight spoke with the

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Speaker 1: media gave us updates on where Hamlin stands, who, of course,

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Speaker 1: suffered the cardiac cardiac arrest during Monday's game against the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: and we learned m Thursday that he has shown quote

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Speaker 1: remarkable improvement over the past twenty four hours and this

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Speaker 1: is huge as well, appears to be neurologically intact, according

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Speaker 1: to the doctor. Speaking of the doctors, UH. One of

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Speaker 1: the things we learned, Mark Uh was that um Hamelin

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Speaker 1: was responsive, opening his eyes and even in writing for him,

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Speaker 1: asked if the Bills had won the game on Monday night,

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Speaker 1: unaware obviously of everything that had transpired after he went

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Speaker 1: down on the field. Here is what Dr Pritz had

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Speaker 1: to say the paraphrase one of our partners, you know,

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Speaker 1: when when he asked, did we win, the answer is yes,

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Speaker 1: you know tomorrow you won. You've won the game of life. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that's probably the most important thing out of this,

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Speaker 1: and we really need to keep him in the center

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Speaker 1: of everything else that's going on, and we really want

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Speaker 1: to ensure a good outcome for him. They also mentioned that,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's shown the ability to move his hands

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously not speaking verbally because he's you know,

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Speaker 1: under under their his breathing is still being helped. As

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Speaker 1: things stand, it is. Yeah, he's still seen. He's in

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Speaker 1: still critically as the doctor said, so it's not a

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Speaker 1: situation where himlin is out of the woods, but just

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Speaker 1: some really positive updates here right now, Greggy. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: them talking at all, it was such a great sign

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Speaker 1: and you could tell. And I was amazed how many

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Speaker 1: questions they answered and the details that they went through,

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Speaker 1: and I think they made it clear that none of

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Speaker 1: this was guaranteed from the moment that he went down,

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Speaker 1: giving all the credit in the world to the Bills

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Speaker 1: medical staff for acting so quickly and so perfectly within

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Speaker 1: that there were a lot of concerns and that in

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Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours some of those concerns, including

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the neurologically being stable and him starting to progress,

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Speaker 1: like are making everyone that are surrounding this story feel

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Speaker 1: better about his recovery. But they didn't want to push

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Speaker 1: able to go home with his family. Yeah. I thought

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Speaker 1: that they you know, underlined over and over the job

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Speaker 1: that the NFL's processes in place um were so tight

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Speaker 1: But they absolutely did a great job with that. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting words into anyone's mouth, but just by

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Speaker 1: they transpired, what what he Although we don't know specifically

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Speaker 1: what actually the medical event was beyond the cardiac arrest.

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Speaker 1: This could have and perhaps should have been a fatal event.

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Speaker 1: But instead it was his age, they said, his fitness.

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Speaker 1: Uh and the medical care which arrived in less than

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Speaker 1: It saved the kid's life. And and and that is

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Speaker 1: it's a remarkable confluence of events here. Obviously that transpired,

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Speaker 1: it's it's an unbelievable kind of life event, and we're

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Speaker 1: we're gonna end up pivoting here, just like the teams,

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Speaker 1: amazingly are gonna be pivoting that we're in this game.

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Speaker 1: Bills in Bengals to talking about football. But while like

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Speaker 1: we had a chance to watch these guys, you were

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Speaker 1: happy that they got to do this press conference in

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Speaker 1: Monday night recap with you if things went the way

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Speaker 1: people expected things to go on Monday. And it's just

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Speaker 1: in the in the power rankings this week, UM that

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Speaker 1: it is crazy that a game that started, um, a

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Speaker 1: And Cincinnati ended with that city skyline bathed in Buffalo blue. UM.

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Speaker 1: So just like crazy and and speaking of crazy, like

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Speaker 1: What a mind bender it must have been to be

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Speaker 1: I hope they can't can't fix it. Now. Let's we'll

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Speaker 1: be right back. All right, we are back. Let's uh

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Speaker 1: so that was Saturday Slate January seven. Let's move to

431
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: the prime time game January Sunday night Football, the last

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Speaker 1: game of the regular season. Probably, I don't know. We'll

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Speaker 1: see Detroit Lions at Green Bay Packers. Love it, Love it, Mark,

434
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: they did it. I like, I haven't been on board

435
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Speaker 1: with a lot of the decisions of the powers that

436
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: be in the schedule room for the NFL this year. Um,

437
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 1: But even though there's a possibility that the Lions are

438
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 1: eliminated by the time this game gets played, I think

439
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: this is great theater. I think the Packers are playing great.

440
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, the back to back reigning m v P

441
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: is uh. On the field, it's Lambeau and Detroit has

442
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: been this great story all season long. And there is

443
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: an also a reality where things go their way. Seattle

444
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: loses earlier on Sunday, and all of a sudden you

445
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: have an awesome playing game headed into the plow. I

446
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: certainly prefer the ladder, but I accept the former because

447
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: I think that this Lions team, and you know, Greg,

448
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: you talked about this last week too, it's like, no

449
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 1: matter where they are in this situation, this season is

450
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: a major win for the coaching staff, for the players,

451
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Speaker 1: for guys like Jared Goff, and there's no you're not

452
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Speaker 1: gonna get any version of them because they've been knocked

453
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Speaker 1: out of a playoff race that they're going to not try.

454
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: They're gonna absolutely do everything they can. You are facing them.

455
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: I think another great story. And I can't believe I'm

456
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Speaker 1: saying this because I've never been pro packers, but what

457
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has done with this team and what they've

458
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: done in general with their defense to win all these games,

459
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: to get to this place. He's five and oh in

460
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: his career and win an in games. It's in Lambeau.

461
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: They're they're a completely different team than they were a

462
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Speaker 1: month ago. I think this will be a huge challenge

463
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Speaker 1: for Detroit. Who you know. I listen, it's not like

464
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: outside of the Dome they're they're defunct. It's not true. No,

465
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not touching this one. But like

466
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: i'd find them like in Green Bay at night. It's

467
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: gonna test who they are. No, I'm not gonna do it.

468
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: You're right, it's a major test the whole idea of

469
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Speaker 1: you know, earlier in the week that the Sea Hex

470
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: fans were upset, but if the if the Lions were

471
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Speaker 1: seven and nine going into this game and already eliminated,

472
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: like no one would be complaining and this would be

473
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Speaker 1: the game. So I sort of don't understand why anyone

474
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Speaker 1: would have any uh problem with them if they're eliminated

475
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Speaker 1: on Sunday and this being the game, you know what

476
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Speaker 1: I mean, Like all the other teams that are playing

477
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: on Sunday that quote don't have anything to play for

478
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: versus teams that are, It's like they're all showing up.

479
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: It's like the Browns against the Steelers and they're they're

480
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: playing that game. I guess the argument is like they'd

481
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: be so emotionally disappointed, But I just don't think that's

482
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Speaker 1: how football works. These are professionals. I love the way

483
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: Campbell handled it. I love the way Pete Carroll handled too.

484
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: It's like they both were saying, like, please, we're showing up.

485
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: We want to end the Packers season. Hopefully we'll have

486
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: a chance to make go to the playoffs. But this

487
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: would be like maybe one of the greatest wins in

488
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Speaker 1: Lions history. If they won this game, even if they

489
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: already are eliminated, Plus you get the win feeling that

490
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: way and the season feeling that way. I think they

491
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: can do it with their running backs. This is how

492
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Speaker 1: the Lions season turned around was beating this Packers team.

493
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: Was a bit of a flukey game where they were

494
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Speaker 1: outplayed but had a bunch of turnovers in the red zone.

495
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Speaker 1: But Jamal Williams in that game was great. And Jamal

496
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: Williams looks fresh, looks awesome. DeAndre Swift looks as good

497
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: as he's looked all year. That's the way you attack

498
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: this Packers defense is with power running, and I think

499
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Speaker 1: that's who the Lions are. I think they'll be going

500
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: for fourth downs. I think they'll be running once they

501
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: get off the bus, and I think they're built to

502
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Speaker 1: do so. I would love to see one thing happened

503
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Speaker 1: in this because Jamison Williams we've seen little moments here

504
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 1: and the Lions could use sort of I wouldn't say

505
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: a secret weapon, but a weapon you're not expecting to

506
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: play a bigger role. His one catch is a forty

507
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: one yeard touchdown catch. His one other touches of forty

508
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: yard rush in week seventeen. It's like this guy, there's

509
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: something about him when you watch him. It's like they

510
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: he has not been part of the plan all year.

511
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: Green Bays developed some electric weapons over the last month

512
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: plus where it's like they're a different team because of it.

513
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Speaker 1: I would love to see Williams play a larger role

514
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: in this and be a difference maker. I mean, it

515
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: would be cool. But they also are now up to

516
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: eight games this year with thirty or more points the lines.

517
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: That's a team record, and uh, they're gonna score points.

518
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Speaker 1: And I know the Packers have played better. Um. The

519
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: last time they kind of got the the real heat

520
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: put on him, UM was that Miami game. Whether we're

521
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Speaker 1: getting lit up in the first half by twa and

522
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: then he suffers a head injury. We don't know the

523
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Speaker 1: specifics around that, but that allowed I think potentially in

524
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Speaker 1: part for them to steal that game with the three

525
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Speaker 1: late interceptions. Greggy, remember back in um November, I believe

526
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Speaker 1: it was you and I had locked up the Packers

527
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: who had lost I believe six of seven at that point.

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Speaker 1: There were four were an eight at the time, and

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this box score with one minute and

530
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: seven seconds to play in the third quarter against the Bears,

531
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: they had Chicago had an eighty three point eight percent

532
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: win probability up nineteen uh in that game with the

533
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Speaker 1: Packers sitting at four and eight, the Packers rallied to

534
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Speaker 1: win that game and they haven't lost since. So Yes,

535
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Speaker 1: as an annoying as Mark the Packers can be, and

536
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: I know you've come around on him this year a

537
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: little bit, it really would be a fairly remarkable turnaround

538
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Speaker 1: if they end with the dub and get to the

539
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: Lands and the Lion. But the Lion season, you know,

540
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: ironically it's your coincidentally started against the Packers. They were

541
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Speaker 1: one and six at that point. They were coming off

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Speaker 1: the by when they won that game where they forced

543
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: the red zone, uh turnovers against the Packers. I love

544
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: this game. And uh, I think they want to force

545
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to play hero ball too, to get away

546
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: from their running game, because I think that's where the

547
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: Packers can win and just him sitting back there are

548
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: trying to make a play, and I think he did

549
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: a lot of that against Minnesota and it didn't really work.

550
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: It didn't matter. They put up a forty burger and

551
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: he played fine. He wasn't a problem. But the lines

552
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: are pretty good pass rush right now with all their

553
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: young players Houston and Hutchinson and Pascal and and everyone.

554
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: If they can get the Packers to get a little

555
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: pass heavy like they were early in the season, I

556
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: think they can win. I'm picking the lines to win.

557
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a hero ball world fare and

558
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers fight. Now. He has thrown four touchdowns since Week thirteen.

559
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: He's looked I just think a little more mundane than

560
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: we'd expect for a two time And I think he's

561
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: trying though. I think he's like, you know, his offensive

562
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: line is playing better though, and so he's having faith

563
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: in them to protect him, and he's kind of sitting

564
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: back there waiting to make you know. Normally, what comes

565
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: out of the mouth of Aaron Rodgers I find often

566
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: like slightly tedious and um pressing on my patients. But

567
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: I think he's been different in the last week. He

568
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: talked less weeks like they need they need me to

569
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: be a better leader. They need me to be someone

570
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: that can lean on and it that's not something Aaron

571
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers will even acknowledging uh verbally the same way before.

572
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: I think there's just something about this Packers to team

573
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: that's different than the old thirteen and three act where

574
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: you roll into the playoffs and get knocked out. Like

575
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: I kind of like this version better, where it's like

576
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: you're clearly the underdogs, you're not a perfect team. They

577
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: very easily in certain scenarios, could wind up playing the

578
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: Niners if they got into the playoffs, which would be

579
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: a nice little dose of revenge for what happened to

580
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: them a year ago. Yeah, they'll and then they'll just

581
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: get beat by the Niners. And I'm trying to do

582
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: what you want and give some Green base some love here.

583
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it does feel inevitable in that stretch,

584
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: but they gotta get there. First. Let's move to the

585
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: draft mark you have in the final week. This is

586
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: our final No, no, we'll have drafts, well not really,

587
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: this is the less real draft, and you have the

588
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: first pick. Congratulations. I do remember when you were we

589
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: usually just go through the other we watched together. You

590
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: remember in week way back in Week one, you were like,

591
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm annoyed now because Greg had second pick, um and

592
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: I had first pick. But look how the well it

593
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: was just it was just presume that Gregord goes second.

594
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: There was no logic to it other than you decided

595
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: that Greg all all season long has been grumbling about

596
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: how bad his first picks have been and right, and

597
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: now you have the final first pick. So look who

598
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: came out on top of the end. I guess I

599
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: did from that angle, I won't fight it. I'm gonna

600
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: go Ravens. It since to pump that positivity into Mark

601
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: and then just see what comes back out. I think

602
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be as positive as possible in this situation.

603
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Ravens At Bengals, Uh, you know, this

604
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: was a strange game the last time they played. I

605
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: think it was a different version of this Bengals team

606
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: before they started to become the Bengals that we really

607
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: believed and down the stretch. It's obviously, um, you know,

608
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: we can't measure this at all, but it's a strange

609
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: situation for I think Cincinnati even take the field again,

610
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's been such a weighty and heavy

611
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: week for them. Um. At the same time, I think

612
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: they showed us what a tight team they are and

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00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: they're coaching staff. I think I think so much more

614
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: of who they are person to person for how they

615
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: led through this. You're playing a Ravens team. To me

616
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: that you know, it sounds like, no Lamar Jackson, he's

617
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: not practicing again. On Thursday here, rap Sheet told Pat

618
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Speaker 1: McAfee that basically the Ravens are confident that Lamar Jackson

619
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Speaker 1: will return for the playoffs. So maybe it's just like,

620
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: let's rest him again. I don't we don't know exactly

621
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Speaker 1: what's going on there. It's been thirty two days as

622
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: of today that he's not practiced or appeared in the game.

623
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Speaker 1: And so this is not like I have rap Sheet

624
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: sprinkles in these little pops on McAfee like he like

625
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: he knows it's gonna get out there. I know I'm

626
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: saying that's a good move, but maybe can he not

627
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: say that exactly on NFL network because it's more of

628
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: like a feeling. But I mean, I think it's got it.

629
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's just a feeling. I'm gonna imagine

630
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: it's coming for yeah, but it's like if you're gonna

631
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: go star on a different vehicle. It doesn't come from

632
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Speaker 1: the Washington Post. I'm not interested. Well, that's that's an

633
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: accurate way to approach life there. Dan, I don't know,

634
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: like without Lamar Jackson, I mean, they were a bit

635
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: of a messy passing offense before he left, but they

636
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: have averaged eleven fewer points per game with Tyler Huntley

637
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: in there, and I a little disappointed and Huntley because

638
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: I thought what we saw last year was like a

639
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: backup who kind of fit what they do and was adequate,

640
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: and he's really been a huge mess. And I think

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00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: part of it is like you saw last week where

642
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: he had like a ten ten targets caught in a

643
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: hundred yards to Mark Andrews and the rest of the

644
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: offense passing wise total thirty yards. They can run the

645
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: ball real well. I don't really think that what you're

646
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: looking at here with Cincinnati, if they play up to

647
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: speed Ravens defense is very good. I just think Cincinnati

648
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: is not going to fold here. They're too powerful. My

649
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: one concern, because we didn't really see this obviously with

650
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: what happened in the Bengals game, is that you still

651
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: don't have Lyle Collins for the rest of this season.

652
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: And Hakimadnagy, who we've talked about, who was a villain

653
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: down the down the stretch for them on that offensive

654
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: line is playing a major role at this point. Well,

655
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: he was showing his character maybe not not personality wise

656
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: player perhaps um ye wise yeah yeah yeah. Um. It

657
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: should not be left unnoted that, once again, Greggy, the

658
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: Baltimore defense, which has been the best thing they've had

659
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: all season, let down in a big spot on Sunday

660
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: Night Football when they needed to get one stop against Pittsburgh. Uh,

661
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: they would have won that game at the end. I

662
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: know they were good overall in that game, but this

663
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: is now you can count maybe on one hand, it

664
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: might be up to four or five games at this

665
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: point where the defense had a chance to close the

666
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: game out and could not do it. In this case,

667
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: it could end up costing them the division because again

668
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: going back to the uncertain nature of things, and again

669
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: as we tape this, things could change. It's fluid. But

670
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens are ten and six, the Bengals are eleven

671
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: and four. If the Bengals don't make up that last game,

672
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: and let's say the Ravens win on Sunday, they finished

673
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: eleven and six, Uh, Bengals eleven and five. Ravens sweep

674
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: the head to head series, but it won't matter because

675
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals would have a better win percentage. That would

676
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: not be the case if they took care of business

677
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: on Sunday against Pittsburgh the great likelihood, as the Bengals

678
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: have already won the a f C North, the the expectation.

679
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: The reporting is that, and this is from the Associated Press,

680
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: that the game between the Bengals and Bills will not

681
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: be made up for and they're trying to figure out

682
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: what else to do as of this taping, it'll be clarified,

683
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: but that would make the Bengals um the division champ.

684
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because if they they would actually have

685
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: probably played this game later if they knew that when

686
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: they adjust and when they said this time. But doesn't

687
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: matter because it affects the Chargers game. The Chargers have

688
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: already said they will rest their starters if the Ravens

689
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: lose early, because then they will not be playing for seeding.

690
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: The Lamar Jackson thing is really interesting to me because

691
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: it's so similar to last year, and they said it

692
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be similar to last year, and it's really

693
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: been the same thing. I don't think Huntley has been

694
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: a mess. Mark I think he's played fine, Like it's

695
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: just this whole thing is a mess. I think he's

696
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: played as one of the best better backups in the league,

697
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: and they just have a slow moving offense. He he

698
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: makes some good plays each week, he's not gonna make

699
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: a difference. And there's no reason to think that the

700
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Ravens defense, which maybe is a little bit better than

701
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: the Bengals defense maybe like, is gonna be that big

702
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: of a difference maker when the difference between the Bengals

703
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: offense and the Ravens offense is this gigantic chasm. The

704
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: only thing that is an X factor, as you mentioned

705
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: that you know we have to talk about and there's

706
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: no way to know, is just the effects of this

707
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: last week. And I thought it was Joe Burrow really

708
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: open and honest about it, saying, like, look, if you

709
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: ask people in the locker room if they even wanted

710
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: to play this week, and this was on Wednesday, and

711
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: I think as each day goes by, the players are

712
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: saying that they're feeling better. It feels different that they

713
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: would have been mixed on it, that like even even

714
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: he felt mixed on it, like that they might not

715
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: be ready to play again. Totally, and so it's just

716
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna be an unprecedented scene, um for them, and especially

717
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: for this they're going through something that we've never no

718
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: teams really how to deal two teams. And we'll get

719
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: to the other team in just a minute, but just

720
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: one more thing on Lamar, because the initial reporting last

721
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: month now about four weeks ago, is that he would

722
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: be back week sixteen, which was Christmas Eve. That didn't happen,

723
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: and then he wasn't back last week, and then he's

724
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: on the sideline on Sunday Night Football with like as

725
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: reported by people on the scene, with a hitch and

726
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: his step um, still just being on the sideline, and

727
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: now it looks like he's not going to practice in

728
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: play in week eighteen potentially, and you wonder, like, first

729
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: of all, what was the status of the knee injury?

730
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Did did you have a setback? Well, so you think

731
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: about his contract status, greggy, and and where where he

732
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: might be mentally as he enters the most important financial

733
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: um period window of his life, how he's playing this

734
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: and why would we suddenly I mean this, who's suggesting

735
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: there's a large confidence that six or seven days from now,

736
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: if if he's walking with a hitch and he's not

737
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: practicing at all that he's going to suddenly be ready

738
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: for a playoff game. It's I is that person? So

739
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: maybe also reported the the Week sixteen return as well,

740
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: didn't he? Yeah? And you do wonder if that's like,

741
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: that's what are the Ravens saying? Is that the feeling

742
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: from the team. I I just wonder how the Ravens

743
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: are gonna approach this game too, Like, do they if

744
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: they know they can't win the division? Do they care

745
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: about winning the five seed versus the sixth seed? Now?

746
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: I think they should. You would play at the a

747
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: f C South winner instead of at Cincinnati, Kansas City

748
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: or Buffalo. That's a pretty big difference, yes, But I

749
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll look at it that way. They

750
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: don't feel like a team like the Ravens under Harbaugh

751
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: or not a sit and rest everyone type of team

752
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: or rest major. And I respect the Jaguars and what

753
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: they've been building the last six weeks or so, but

754
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm sending difference in Jackson. Absolutely, if I have the opportunity.

755
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the other team that was

756
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: involved in Monday Night, the Bills. That will be my

757
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: pick Patriots at Bills. Um Buffalo entered week seventeen is

758
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: the number one seed. We'll see if, even with a

759
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: win um in week team whether they stay that way,

760
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: because there's a potential here when the Chiefs end up

761
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: with a higher winning percentage if they don't make up

762
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: Monday night, So keep that in mind. Um So, the Bills, though,

763
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: still have a chance at the number one seed if

764
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: they take care of business against the Pats, who also

765
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: nobody really wants to see other than Patriots fans the

766
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: Pats in the playoffs. But I kind of respect Greg

767
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: the stubbornness that they might just get there to spite us.

768
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: They might, they might punch their ticket. They need to

769
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: win obviously. Uh, you don't know what version of Buffalo

770
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in this game, Joe Burrow said. The

771
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: Cincinnati players, some players are split on even wanting to play.

772
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: Can you even imagine with tomorrow Hamlin's actual team is

773
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: feeling right now as they begin preparation for an a

774
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: f C East rivalry game with their opponent playing for

775
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: their um postseason lives. It creates a complete unknowable situation.

776
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Once again, how the Bills respond and what version of

777
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: the team shows up and for the Patriots, they can

778
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: only play their opponent, and it could it could work

779
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: and purely football terms in their favor because they are

780
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: they are the inferior team, but they have an opportunity

781
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: here to get the Bills at a time it's a

782
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: very uncertain time around what I think is the best

783
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: team in the a f C. I thought it was

784
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: telling um in some press availability or uh some source reports.

785
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: One won by Jeremy Fowler that when Tomorrow Hamlin's dad

786
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: addressed the Bills team via zoom, that like it really

787
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: galvanized the team. That they felt like they were able

788
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: to smile after that, like that that they cheered as

789
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: if it was like winning the super Bowl. Listening to

790
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: the dad, hearing him be um, lighthearted at some moments

791
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: and just positive, and that they almost like felt like, okay,

792
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: now we can move on. There's there's just no way

793
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: this scene is going to be unlike anything else. So

794
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to know how much to put that

795
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: into this game. But I know that these teams aren't

796
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: even I know that the Bills absolutely own the Patriots.

797
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: That the last three games, including the game this year,

798
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: we're so one sided. It didn't look like they were

799
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: playing the same sport practically, and I do think there

800
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: are elements that are a little different this time around.

801
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: I think the Bills offensive line, the Bills offense has

802
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: a few cracks in the armor, and the Patriots defense

803
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: is certainly rushing the pastor well, Christian Barmer. They're different,

804
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: but they're pretty banged up in the secondary to where

805
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: like maybe the Bills defense, the Patriots defense can keep

806
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: the score down so it's not embarrassing. But I don't

807
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: see any reason to believe in a normal situation that

808
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense isn't gonna blow this game two or

809
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: three different times and that ultimately the Bills win comfortably, right.

810
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they've not matched up well with Buffalo two

811
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: years in a row, and this Buffalo team is essentially

812
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: the same team in many ways. And I just feel

813
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: your point Greg about his father speaking to them, and

814
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: then that the fact that we're getting positive news that

815
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: we are in a different place than we were a

816
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, that doesn't mean that for a

817
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: number of people it won't be an element of trauma

818
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: to return into the field at all. But you're in

819
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo I think you're gonna get a crowd that is

820
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: like as loving and supportive and galvanized as you're gonna

821
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: see all season long. I think the Bills are the

822
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: type of team that will feed off of that, and

823
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: I think it's a very human element to this game.

824
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: And I think from an on field perspective, New England

825
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: just does not scare you on offense on any level.

826
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: So the Bills need to do just enough on that

827
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: side of the ball their offense. And I think you

828
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: got Josh Allen who owns this team, Um, you know,

829
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a great place for Stefon Diggs, who

830
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: hasn't had a hundred yard games since Week ten, to

831
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: re galvanize his connections. Way on Monday night, you could

832
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: tell the way that game was setting up that he

833
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: was going to have. I think they're determined to make

834
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: that happened again before the playoffs, and so I just

835
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: think this is a thing where it's going to be

836
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: a process the next couple of days. But Buffalo, this

837
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: is the team you want to be playing in Week

838
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: eighteen to go into the playoffs and reset the board

839
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: here a little bit. From an on field football perspective,

840
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: it's an amazing fan base obviously in general, but that

841
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: is going to be in Western New York a very special,

842
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: uh raucous vibe and that you can imagine they they

843
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: could even have some you know, pregame visitors involved in

844
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: terms of getting the crowd amped connected to Damarrow like

845
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: that's going to be a great scene to watch there.

846
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: There were a couple of key injury updates in this game.

847
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Jack Jones had been put on i R, which I

848
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: don't know if we had mentioned, you know, for the pages,

849
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: and Marcus Jones is still out of practice. So they're

850
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: down a couple of cornerbacks. They sounds like they will

851
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: get back Jalen Mills, he's limited, h Jacoby Myers, who

852
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: got hurt late in that game on on the touchdown

853
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: catch is limited. They might get back to Vante Parker,

854
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: and then Toron Johnson, who took that vicious hit early

855
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: in that Bengals game, who's a really important air for

856
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: them with the concussion, is back at practice too. And

857
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: there is a scenario, Dan, it's not that far fetched

858
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: that the Patriots lose and make the playoffs. It's pretty simple.

859
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: They're in the spot right now. If everyone loses, they

860
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: stay in the spot and so well, we know what

861
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: we lose that. Yeah, I think it might be a

862
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: rematch of this game again too, which which no one

863
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: in New England certainly would want, but yeah, it would be.

864
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: It would be the Patriots losing, the Dolphins losing, the

865
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: Steelers losing, and the Jaguars winning because they need the

866
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: Jaguars that buffalo take care of business. We shall see

867
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: if they do. Uh And and one more note on

868
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: the Pats same same as it ever was with this team.

869
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: They will have one drive where they look functional. It

870
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: will be a eight yard touchdown drive at some point

871
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: in the game, just one. They'll need the defensive score again,

872
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: they've gotten seven of them this year, so they'll need

873
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: a defensive or special teams score, and then Josh Allen

874
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: is gonna have to make some mistakes. That's that's the

875
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: path to one upsetting. It is also if you're Mac Jones,

876
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: your last chance to have a meltdown on the sideline

877
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: on national television. You're gonna it's your last chance to

878
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: kind of explode at your coordinating a little clown car coaches.

879
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, all right, let's take a break in the draft,

880
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: will roll on all right, Welcome back, here we go.

881
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: Week eighteen preview. We are to the third pick of

882
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: the draft in Greggy Rosenthal. Didn't you never actually call

883
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: you Greggy before Dan in an actual serious sense? I mean,

884
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone can call me Greggy in

885
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: a serious sense. Um, my mom did sometimes. Well, then

886
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: you're connecting back to his early early child, so basically

887
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: more important figures in his life aside from his wife

888
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: and children, my mom and then my father figure Dan.

889
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even throw it beside. I don't need to

890
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: qualify with the beside the direct family. I'm saying you

891
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: could be higher than you even think in that it

892
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: was a presumption on my partner. I shouldn't have done it,

893
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: all right, if you sandwich in between the two children

894
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: in there in the rankings, I don't know by beautiful Greggy,

895
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: go ahead, buddy, all right? You took Patriots Bills, I'm

896
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: gonna take the Jets. Will take the Jets Dolphins? Why not? Um,

897
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: it's the only game that's interesting early. But it's the

898
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: only one that's left that's any good early, So it

899
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: doesn't track as a must watch for the old juser.

900
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: On Sunday it's a bit of a depressing time front.

901
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: I just want something that is um important for playoff implications,

902
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: and I am interested in this game. I want to

903
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: I really want Teddy Bridgewater to play. I just feel

904
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: like that's a better game than Skyler Thompson playing it.

905
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: We will get Mike White again. It's not gonna be yeah,

906
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: maybe that can be again. He really struggled a week ago.

907
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: Um and if he plays like that again, that's gonna

908
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: hurt his money, I think in the off season. But

909
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: if he gets back to being the Mike White that

910
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: you think. There's a lot of reasons to believe the

911
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: Jets can win this game. They're both teams are really

912
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: banged up that the Jets could be short a couple

913
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, but the Dolphins are are in worse shape.

914
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: Toron Armstead, Bradley Chub, Xavian Howard and of course to

915
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: a four of their very best players are all still

916
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: out of practice here and they have a chance to

917
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They did not match up well against

918
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: the Jets uh last time. And I don't know like

919
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: i've belt I've believed in the Jets too much. I'm

920
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: really struggling with who to pick in this game. Dan, Yeah,

921
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I've been it's so wrong on the Jets.

922
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: Why have I been so high on the two? You're

923
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: a former or still Patriots fan, but because of what

924
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: your picks and the things you do connected to this network,

925
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: you've got a little taste of Jets fandom this year

926
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: where sometimes it doesn't even make sense. Sometimes the only

927
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: thing that makes sense when it's all over and the

928
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: carnage is through is the Jets blew it and it's like, oh,

929
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: well they blew it again. They lost five in a

930
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: row and whatever. But this year, it didn't feel like

931
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: this was gonna happen with this team. But yeah, there

932
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: are a lot of things have happened, and it's the

933
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: defense that was playing perhaps over its head for a

934
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: large portion of the season, or you know, maybe some

935
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: things and injuries kind of brought them down a little bit.

936
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: But once they started playing it closer to a league

937
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: average level, it really uh left and vulnerable because the

938
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: offense has really gone in the tank. I think maybe

939
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: you're right, maybe the pressure off of Mike White a

940
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: little bit now and and and the team perhaps not

941
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: feeling as much stress now that they're eliminated, you'll see

942
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: them play at a higher level. But I also have

943
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: watched enough Jets football to see this game over by

944
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: the end of the first quarter, and they just pack

945
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: it in and then there are a lot of questions

946
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: about what is the future this team going for Mike White.

947
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: Like when he's been good and when the offense has

948
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: been functional, he's been a great story, but it was

949
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: always a bit of a pipe dream to think that

950
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: he was suddenly unearthed, this guy that's gonna throw for

951
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: four hundred yards every week. I mean, he even even

952
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: like last year when he had his chances to start,

953
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: it was a roller coaster and this offense in general

954
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: has been a roller coaster night. But I have not

955
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: convinced Number one, he was totally healthy, Like, I mean,

956
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: he suffered such punishment when he last played before that.

957
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you're gonna get that game from Mike White.

958
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: I think, honestly, it's probably more honest for the Jets

959
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: to go into the offseason with a clear idea that

960
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback. I don't know why Robert Salo,

961
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: who I think has done a great job in general,

962
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: needs to insist in that, you know, in quotes that

963
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: through hell or high water, they're gonna stick with Zach.

964
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't just don't say it, Like I don't need to

965
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: say anything at this point, Like you have the right

966
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: as a coaching staff to completely clear the deck after

967
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: this because this question. I get that, but it's just

968
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: like it's just it's it's just a little two months.

969
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: But I I don't mind him doing that at all.

970
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: He sticking for his players, getting like I said it far.

971
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: I think that like that he stood by Wilson. I

972
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 1: do admire that. I just think it's just kind of

973
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: let him alone. He also said like he basedly told

974
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson get away from football, go read books and

975
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: just Floire also said they probably shouldn't have played Wilson

976
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: last year. I don't think they're really sticking by him.

977
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: I think publicly they're doing a good job trying to

978
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: keep the media off him. Sticking by him is like

979
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: having him play this game. I mean it's a meaningless

980
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: game and he's not even playing. He's not even gonna

981
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: be third strink. Look, these two teams are competing collapses here.

982
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: It's incredible to think where the Dolphins are and if

983
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: they've lost five games in a row. They weren't able

984
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: to run the ball last week against the Patriots. I

985
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: thought that was really important for them, and I don't

986
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: know if they're going to be able to do this week.

987
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: But Jets defense hasn't been as good. I went and

988
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: looked up kind of the the efficiency metrics during these

989
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: five game losing streaks. They're both like bottom eight offenses,

990
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: like Jets were. Miami was twenty six, And even if

991
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: you took out the Zach Wilson games, the Jets are

992
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: still like a bottom six offense in this losing streak. Uh,

993
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins are terrible offensively. To the surprising part

994
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: for me was like the Jets defense was twelve, Like

995
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: they've been fine, but they just haven't been dominant. This

996
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: is a game that, in theory, you could dominate the

997
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: way that the Dolphins. We've seen cracks in their defense,

998
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: the way when Skylar Thompson started back in Week five

999
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: they romped the Dolphins was seventeen. Two different teams at

1000
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 1: this point, but they've both fallen off a clip. Yeah,

1001
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: that was a close game for three quarters and then

1002
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: it got away. You hate you, I know, Jets fans,

1003
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: they don't like the Dolphins, and I'm not saying you

1004
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: guys are the Lions here trying to cap off a season.

1005
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: It's it's disappointing regardless. But I really think if you know,

1006
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: if the Dolphins win this game, they're probably going to

1007
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs. All they need is the Patriots to lose

1008
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: to the Bills, and so this is a big game

1009
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: for Jets. Can knock out the can do it to

1010
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: His friend Mike McDaniel said he'd rather be on a

1011
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: beach with him a week from not not seeing the

1012
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: Dolphins in the player. I'm sure there's like, uh, you know,

1013
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand feet above the ground, Jets fans that

1014
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: are like, oh, lose the game, getting the top ten

1015
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: in the in the draft and all that, Yeah, let's

1016
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: end the season that overall was a positive one, um uh,

1017
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: and then turned sour with a nice win. The one

1018
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: the one thing that the Jets need to figure you're

1019
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: out is and this is carrying over through the regimes. Um,

1020
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: they need to figure out how to identify and develop

1021
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They cannot do it. They have They've gotten

1022
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: bad luck as as part of the Jets story as well,

1023
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: They've never fallen into a Borough or a Herbert or

1024
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: Lawrence in all of these years of struggles. Um, but

1025
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: they need to take a closer look at how they

1026
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: do this because I don't think they handled Wilson right.

1027
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: He was raw, he was green as it gets, and

1028
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: they threw him right into the mix. Maybe it's time

1029
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: to start taking a closer look at how you do this.

1030
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: Just don't maybe don't do it through the draft again,

1031
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: just find a veteran out there that you can trust. Well,

1032
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: I thought you made a good point last week, Mark

1033
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: about you know, the Jets shouldn't or the fan BA

1034
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: shouldn't just say go get Derek Carr and everything's fine.

1035
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: But again it's like which way do you go? Do

1036
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: you go get the slightly do you use the first

1037
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: round pick on a quarterback and get there? Well, then

1038
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: you're then Joe Tables is on a ticking cart if

1039
00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: he picks another quarterback that doesn't essentially shine immediately anyway, Right,

1040
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna take the Rams Seahawks as a game.

1041
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: There's not really a great UH four slate. And when

1042
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: I saw that, it's my guy, Zina Smith, and then

1043
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: all our guy, I don't know, it's our guy, it's

1044
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: our guy Santez on the call. That's a good way

1045
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: to captain season here, and it's probably the last Seahawks

1046
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: game of the year, so I can just enjoy it,

1047
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: you know. And why do you say that you're presuming

1048
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: that the win on you pick the Lions. It's true

1049
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: if my picks are right, it's gonna be if the

1050
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: Lions have a great emotional win on Sunday Night Football.

1051
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks, we've had a nice season all due respect,

1052
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: are the team that ends up going to the playoffs.

1053
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: But that is very possible. Just to let you know

1054
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: your picks aside, like Earth might suggest that Seattle goes

1055
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, not just what you picked, like good

1056
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: did I guess I said that because if you just

1057
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: look at percentages, you need two results to happen. Uh,

1058
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: it's more likely that they don't go to the playoffs.

1059
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: They have an under fifty chance. Because I also don't

1060
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: totally hand them this win. I think that's the that's

1061
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: the part of the equation that Seahawks fans when they're

1062
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: talking about the Sunday Night Football, haven't been focused on.

1063
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: But Sean mcveigh's generally owned Pete Carroll. I do put

1064
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: something into these division matchups, and I think you can

1065
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Speaker 1: only look four weeks ago to the matchup where the

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00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks had to win with the last second touchdown to

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00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: beat the Rams, who were starting John Woolford that day,

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00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: and say, like, Okay, there's something here in terms of

1069
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: the matchups that like, this isn't some incredible mismatch. The

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00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: good thing is Seattle's defense has played better again in

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00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I just don't know what

1072
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: to think of this defense. Maybe it's just unpredictable, it's

1073
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: a game plan specific. They had al Woods back, which

1074
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think like makes all the difference, but he's

1075
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: been really good stopping the run, and then that makes, um,

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00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: everything else look a little better. I definitely picked the

1077
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: Seahawks in this game. Their home geno, Steady ken Walker's

1078
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: out there kind of looking like se Quan Barkley. That's

1079
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: who he reminds me of a lot, like that lateral

1080
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: thing and the fact that he'll take big losses and

1081
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: kind of go sideways looking for the big play. But

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00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: you know what, he finds the big pay. You know what,

1083
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: that's actually a pretty good nickname for Gino this year,

1084
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: Gino Steady. I was looking at it because he's got

1085
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: twenty nine touchdowns. By the way, he throws one more

1086
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: and he joins when you get this right, Dave Craig

1087
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson is the only Seattle quarterbacks ever to

1088
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: throw thirty in the season. Um. I was going through

1089
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: his game log this week with doing power rankings, and

1090
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: he he had a streak of one point like of

1091
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: like seven straight games through you through exactly two touchdowns. Like,

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00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: he has been a guy that and I especially what

1093
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: I've witnessed with my team this year. Man, there's something

1094
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: of true value to have a guy like you kind

1095
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: of know what your quarterbacks is gonna give. He's not

1096
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: gonna be Mahomesian, but he's also not gonna to lay

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00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: eggs and and and that's what Gino has been for

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00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: them this year. I want to now hashtag analysis Mark.

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00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: This is some real football guy analysis. Baker Mayfield has

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00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: been the quarterback of the Rams for four weeks. Now, okay,

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00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: the first week Fund Baker, the second week regular or

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00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: bad Baker, the third week Fund Baker, the fourth week

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00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: regular slash bad Baker. Fifth week feels like fund Baker,

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00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: I think, I know what a better way for work

1105
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: in Mayfield to see how I'm doing on and off.

1106
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's been and he's been up and down

1107
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: everywhere he's been, and it's like the ups with the

1108
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: Rams have been better than any other ups, So why

1109
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: not finished the year this way? One I don't love

1110
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: for them in general is that I think, like cam Acres,

1111
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: another guy who has been on a roller coaster ride

1112
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: in the doghouse suddenly being used exceptively in the penthouse now.

1113
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: So it's the same thing the up in the down.

1114
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: The Seahawks run defense, which was a disaster for so long.

1115
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: They have not allowed eight plus yards on the ground

1116
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: in four streight weeks. So it's the al Woods thing.

1117
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: It's who knows, But they're much better that was like

1118
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: you still see it's like, oh they're thirtieth than rushing. Well,

1119
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: they haven't been in the last quarter of the season.

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Speaker 1: So that like if you put Baker Mayfield into a

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00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: situation where he's got a throw, I think the last

1122
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: week he really struggled in like typical easy your quick passes,

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00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: which you see Baker Mayfield just miss on show on

1124
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: short yardage throws where it could really help the Rams,

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00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: and he's done better at like improbable throws down field.

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Speaker 1: So I the one thing I love about Gino Smith.

1127
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: This would be the most poetic end to the year.

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00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: And he's gonna do this barring disaster. He needs a

1129
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one passing yards to pass Russell Wilson

1130
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: for the single season franchise record and yardage. I love that.

1131
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: I guess he gets an extra game, but still, well,

1132
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: who who cares about that? Never less? Cook, I mean,

1133
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: I think it's amazing, amazing way to end it for him.

1134
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: If the Titans shocked the Jags on Saturday, I'll be

1135
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: kicking myself. I didn't lock up Gino and a big

1136
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: still here against him. You're constantly wrestling with the locks

1137
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: and we're all I'd like to give you my internal mind.

1138
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: I didn't. I definitely need it. Uh winning by the way,

1139
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: the west ros Nick Westling, it's really Nick at this point,

1140
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: um who we almost heard from Monday night, but we

1141
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: will hear from him at some point during the Cincinnati

1142
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: upcoming playoff run. Locked up the Seahawks, by the way.

1143
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: All right, Moving on back to the Zeuser. Huh the

1144
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: old Zeuser the Gota Bongo. I will take first first

1145
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: week all season. I don't think you've had the Jets.

1146
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: It is. It is there. You left me no other no, no,

1147
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: in no way, in no way do I take issue

1148
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: with it. No, umbradge taken, umbraj umbraj I will take

1149
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: the Giants at the Eagles, and uh, it's not a

1150
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: game I'm like on fire about because well, look at

1151
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: the rest of the Game's not a lot of great

1152
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: meat on the bone at this point. Um. From a

1153
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: narrative standpoint, We'll get to narrative in just a second.

1154
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: By the way, the Giants are locked into the sixth seed.

1155
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what happens against the Eagles here, So

1156
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance they're gonna arrest players. Certainly,

1157
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: it behooves them to give sa Kuana blow here and

1158
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: not have him get a lot of workload with the

1159
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 1: playoffs coming up. Daniel Jones coming off arguably the best

1160
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: game of his career. Um, he's gonna want to tune up.

1161
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: But maybe he doesn't play either. It doesn't play a lot.

1162
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's an update on that end.

1163
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: I apologize for not already knowing there isn't okay actually dabbles.

1164
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: He wouldn't talk, he wouldn't say he's changed his tune. Though.

1165
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: Immediately after the game, he's like, everyone's playing, and then

1166
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: he was like, we'll decide on Friday. So I think

1167
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: I think it's even even if they start, I think

1168
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna see early pulling you out of there, like

1169
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: give them rest, you know, specially. So here's why this game, though,

1170
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: is compelling to me. I gotta see the Eagles play

1171
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: well here going into the playoffs. That was Wolf. I

1172
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: watched that game on Monday, the Saints Eagles game, and

1173
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, woof, woof, woof woof. That first

1174
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: half was grizzly by Philadelphia, And I understand Jalen Hurts

1175
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: is out of lineup, and I understand he's trending towards

1176
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: playing in this game, which makes a lot of sense

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00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: to me, especially because they still haven't locked up the

1178
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: number one seed. Um, but they had sixty one total

1179
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: yards in the first half against the Saints, And I

1180
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: know the Saints are playing better now, but come on.

1181
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: They didn't have their first first down in the game

1182
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: until twelve seconds remained in the contest. The Saints outplayed

1183
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: them in every phase at the link and then of

1184
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: course they get back in the game, and then it

1185
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: gets washed away on a hideous pick six by Gardner Minshew.

1186
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: Great played by Marshall Latimore, of course, but that was

1187
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: not a good thrower, a good decision by the backup QB.

1188
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: So Philly, go have a good, get right game, Jalen Hurts,

1189
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: get through the game with that shoulder feeling good, grab

1190
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: the number one seed once and for all, and then

1191
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: feel good about yourself as you head into the buy

1192
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: to get fully healthy. I mean it would be I

1193
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: think a couple of weeks ago, like we just assumed

1194
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: the Eagles would win one of these games and do

1195
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: what they needed to do, and there was a lot

1196
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: of especially the Dallas game gave you help hope the

1197
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew would not ut unquote supposed to win that right,

1198
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: maybe not. Last week was surpri but the Dallas team

1199
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: was super came out of thinking, well, their offense won't

1200
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: change that much with Minshew, and which completely changed we go.

1201
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: I think that like the the idea, they was sacked

1202
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: six times by the Saints. Um the Lane Johnson absence

1203
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: matters whether it's Hurts or Minshew. I tend to think

1204
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be on offense. Fine when once Hurts

1205
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: comes back, I just do I think that you still

1206
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: got all the same weapons. Though the Lane Johnson thing

1207
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: concerns you, but it would be an epic collapse to

1208
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: not be the giant scene that probably will be resting

1209
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: a variety of players left and right. You gotta handle

1210
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: it because to come out of this as the number

1211
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: two seed or some situation where the Cowboys wind up

1212
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: as the number one, which is especially unappealing if you're

1213
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan, is about as ugly a narrative dan

1214
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: as you could finish the season with. Forgetting narrative, how

1215
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: about reality, you'd be the five seed on the road,

1216
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys narratives and everything else not happening though, I mean

1217
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,959
Speaker 1: this this thing should be. Did you think they're gonna

1218
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: lose to the Saints? This is different. The Giants are

1219
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: worse than the Saints. I m O and another I

1220
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: am from the worst in the Saints. But more importantly,

1221
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: the Giants, I don't think a are gonna be playing.

1222
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be playing to win

1223
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: this game. Well, that matters the Eagles absolutely waxed the

1224
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: same Giants team it wasn't that long ago, and their

1225
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: fourteen point favorites because because of that, because we know

1226
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: the Giants got juice right now, is that their juice

1227
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: deficiency right now? I feel he's a little bit of

1228
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: a juice to fit. They bring the juice back though

1229
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: this week. C J. Gardner Johnson and Robert Quinn not

1230
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: this week, but they are looking like they're gonna come

1231
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: back for the playoffs. To Gardner Johnson, matters a lot.

1232
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: They've given up the worst, one of the worst passer

1233
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: ratings around without them. Yeah, and Avante Maddox too, So

1234
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: those are two guys in the middle of the defense. No,

1235
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: it's it's totally about that. The Giants don't have anything

1236
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: to play for, and I think they could be playing. Um.

1237
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: Who is their backup right now, Tyrone Tyro's a good backup.

1238
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: And Danny Knell, who I think they've sent just signed

1239
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: off of UM. He's working in the construction site in

1240
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: central Pennsylvania. I think he made his money in the nineties. Um.

1241
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: Speaking of narratives, two decades ago, people were on some

1242
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 1: level on Twitter a little surprised that we didn't get

1243
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: after Cavon Thibodeau too hard after the snow Angel incident,

1244
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: and um, you know, gave it to him a little bit. Um.

1245
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: We don't need to, old friend. Um, but I thought

1246
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: he was showing his ass a little bit. This week,

1247
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: here is Cavan talking about Jeff Saturday's comments about uh

1248
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: the sack celebration and and the go to sleep gesture

1249
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: on the sideline by Cavan. Jeff Saturday interm coach of

1250
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: the Cults, said it was trash and uh not classy.

1251
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: And here was Cavon Thibodeau's response to the media. Who

1252
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: I was What I'm saying, who's the gatekeeper of when

1253
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: to do something? So once we figure out who the

1254
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: gatekeeper is, and then we can write the rules and

1255
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: then we can establish you know, the narratives and things

1256
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: like that. But until you know you guys actually are

1257
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: in the sport and do it and be in that moment,

1258
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: you can't create a narrative on it. You know, well,

1259
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: we're not creating a narrative on it. The guy the

1260
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: other teams coach had a problem, and he's a guy

1261
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: who playing the game now, not just don't know who

1262
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: like anybody who comments on it, unless I know who

1263
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: they are, it doesn't really affect me. Uh that sound

1264
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: is courtesy of s N y Um. It sounds like

1265
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: he lives in his own bubble, Cavan, And you can

1266
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: say you love it, but it's like Jeff Saturday is

1267
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: a four time All Pro um, six time Pro Bowl,

1268
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: or he's a Super Bowl champion, and I've seen a

1269
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: lot of people kind of bring all that stuff up.

1270
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: Do you really think the majority of players know who

1271
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: the hell Jeff Saturday is? But my point is Greg,

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01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: is that it just feels like to me that Cavon

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01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: Thibodeau kind of lives in his own world and if

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01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: you aren't in Cavan's world, you don't really matter. And

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01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: and it shows a lack, I think, to me, of

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01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: kind of understanding of where he stands. I thought it

1277
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: was interesting that the center, the current center of the

1278
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: colts Um, took Cavan to task on Sunday after the game, saying, hey, man, like,

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01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: injuries are part of the game and he'll learn that

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01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: one day that it's not something you ever celebrate. And

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01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: then I think, especially in light of what happened Monday night,

1282
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: like with uh Hamlin, it's just like man, you gotta

1283
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: show a little more awareness about what the context of

1284
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: the world is. And I just my radar is up

1285
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: now a little bit. On Thibodeau is a fantastically talented

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01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: young player, but I wonder when things aren't gonna and

1287
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: there's a time when things aren't going well for the Giants,

1288
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: or maybe there's some contracts stuff going on, if he's

1289
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: one of those guys that starts bouncing around the league

1290
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: despite being very talented. I don't like want to waste

1291
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: too much energy being like the behavior police, and you

1292
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: can go say whatever you want. You can treat your

1293
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: career and how you're viewed by people that people don't

1294
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: know Jeff Saturday. People also don't know Cavon Thibodeaux, and

1295
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: they're learning about him week by week, and like he's

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01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: crafting how we learn about him, and he's making that

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01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: decision so good you're gonna live with it. Because me, like,

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: what what do I want? What do we want out

1299
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: of verse words? Players? I want not villains, but I

1300
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: want characters. I want twenty two year olds that are

1301
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: incredibly confident, like in a Jackass. I couldn't can't imagine

1302
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 1: what being confident in being a jack there. I can't

1303
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: imagine what we would have been like at twenty two

1304
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: years old with a microphone. And so the fact that

1305
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: he reminds me of like ravishing Rick Rude, like just

1306
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: because he's so confident, doesn't want to hear about it.

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01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't mind me because it's not that serious acting

1308
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: on the field, how he like I I get that,

1309
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: but him clapping back in the media that he doesn't

1310
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: know Jeff Saturday, that part I kind of because it's

1311
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: not that serious. But the root of it, it's I'm

1312
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: not saying it's overly serious and like I don't listen

1313
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: to go do what you want, like I said, But

1314
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: the root of it was celebrating a sack next to

1315
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: a player that looked like he was in another universe.

1316
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: And so that that in the you know, I don't know,

1317
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: especially in the context of this week, that then this

1318
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,959
Speaker 1: after that, but like not you know, not to move

1319
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: off it this week and and just kind of move

1320
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: on from it too instead like get his heels. I

1321
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: just it just shows that he is very young. It

1322
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: lack of self awareness and lack of mature I mean, Greg,

1323
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: Dan and I had the end like Dan and I

1324
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: like you know, you're taking a task for you know,

1325
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: like not being great interviewers and stuff. Well it's like

1326
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we were just mean, like like you're right,

1327
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: a lack of maturity, but like, of course, like I

1328
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: almost can you know, twenty two years old. Of course,

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01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: the lack of maturity and I and when I just

1330
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: try to give mind, Like when it comes to athletes,

1331
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: what do we want. I don't want them to all

1332
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: just be robots. We always say that, so I kind

1333
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: of I don't mind when it's not too serious. All right,

1334
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: Well we're gonna lose that. There's gonna be a big

1335
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: chunk of people that are gonna be like Greg super

1336
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: cool and like so understanding of the youth code. Why

1337
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: would why would? Why are you thinking of that thinking?

1338
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's listen, he's young, and he's ravishing

1339
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: Rick rude. And that's why I like my athletes. All right.

1340
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he should be out of the league.

1341
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: Crack your own career the way you want. We all

1342
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: have that, dude, But I, I, I I and other people

1343
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: get to say, oh I don't like that vibe. It's

1344
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: just like, come on, dude, there's just you can say

1345
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: wherever he want. It's your show, Dad. All right, we'll

1346
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: be right back after this. All right, welcome back, Mark,

1347
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: you were up next in the draft. All right, I'm

1348
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna go Cleveland, Pittsburgh the Steeler and it's I'm not

1349
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: doing it because of Cleveland, by the way, Pittsburgh who

1350
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: I've been tracking this for a while, just thinking this

1351
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: whole idea that Mike Tomlin's gonna end up with a

1352
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: winning record after all they've been through. Um, it's happening.

1353
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: They're going to knock off the Browns on Sunday, and

1354
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: number one, I'll get this out of the way. I

1355
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: am ultra confident about the fact that it will happen.

1356
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: I'm locking up the Pittsburgh Steelers. What I'm I'm gonna

1357
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: do it until they until they're taken out of the league,

1358
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: because this team will not be denied. Right now, there's

1359
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: something special about the Steelers team. They'll be unwatchable on

1360
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: offense for two plus quarters and then Kenny Pickett weeks

1361
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: in a row. It's like, I don't think Kenny Pickett

1362
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: is a perfect quarterback, but for where he is at

1363
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: his career as a rookie, it's pretty amazing what he's

1364
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: done and just sort of like the we talked about

1365
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: the vibe of Cavon, the vibe of Kenny Pickett to

1366
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: me is like I'm gonna put the Steelers team on

1367
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: my back when it matters at the end of a game.

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01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: This entire offense is developing and growing. They are a

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01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: much different team than the one that faced the Browns

1370
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football earlier in the year. They can

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01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: run the ball, well, now you can run on the

1372
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. They can they I think through the air

1373
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: Picket's gonna do something every game with Pickings, Deantre and

1374
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: like they're This team to me is a team that

1375
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: like is going to be in the conversation they have

1376
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: a chance the playoffs. I think Cleveland is is right

1377
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: for the picking in this situation. Defensively, the Browns with

1378
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: define with de Shaun Watson, they that second half was

1379
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: a pivot for them on offense because if you look

1380
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: at their first half, Deshan had like four sacks and

1381
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: three completions. They were an absolute mess and you started

1382
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: to see it down the stretch. So if you get

1383
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: that for a full game, that will be a challenge.

1384
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 1: But if you look at the Steelers defense, and it's

1385
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: not just because t. J. Watts on the field necessarily,

1386
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: but they were essentially seven one and six without him,

1387
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: and there's seven to seven and two since. They've allowed

1388
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: seventeen or fewer points in six straight games. That's the

1389
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: longest streak for this Steelers defense, which has been awesome

1390
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: for as long as we've known each other, the longest

1391
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: streak for them since two thousand and four. It's legit.

1392
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: They're real. I think they can shut down Cleveland. I

1393
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: think they're playing for something. They're playing for a lot.

1394
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: Their coached themselves, their playoff chances, and I just like

1395
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 1: the way they developed over this year. It's great coaching.

1396
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: I agree. I think we could see him in the

1397
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,919
Speaker 1: playoffs next week. So all they need is the Dolphins

1398
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: to lose against the Jets, give the Jets a slight

1399
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: edge in that game if Teddy's out, and then the

1400
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: Patriots to lose, and then that's very Steelers win and

1401
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: they're in. So Steelers, they think they'd be a more

1402
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: fun playoff team. They are playing better I think than

1403
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Patriots right now. Kenny Pickett pulls

1404
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: off a lot of like low percentage plays, which is

1405
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: not what you necessarily expected out of him. Um, he's

1406
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: been inconsistent but has a knack for it. They're very

1407
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: similar their teams. The Browns defense is playing better. Both

1408
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: teams can run, certainly only one as Nick Chubb. I

1409
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: think the differences like you expected Watson to make some

1410
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: sort of positive difference, and I keep hearing like, well,

1411
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: he's just coming back in and played football in two years.

1412
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: This five game stretch he's had is worse than any

1413
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: five games stretch he's ever played football. I mean, by

1414
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: far since we've ever seen him going back to days

1415
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: at any stretch. No, but you also gave him the

1416
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: contract of better than Patrick Mahomes, better than Josh Allen

1417
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: at some point you would expect Yeah, I guess I would.

1418
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's a lot of time not

1419
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: playing football, but he's shown virtually no progress. I know

1420
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: that he hit a couple throws in that game. It

1421
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: was like three or four throws. He had like nine

1422
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: completions total, and three or four of them were screens

1423
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: in dump off. So I don't I would expect to

1424
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: see something because it's not like he hasn't been training

1425
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: It's not like he didn't do this like they'll the

1426
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: bar is so low. I mean, it didn't rise to

1427
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: your your level on this, but he did leave them

1428
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: on three consecutive touchdown drives in the second half. It's

1429
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: not like when I went back to watch that game,

1430
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: I was expecting something and it was basically good field

1431
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: position and guys in a couple of throws and guys

1432
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: making plays after the guys. There wasn't anything in particular

1433
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: in that game there was any better than the other game.

1434
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: You could argue the better trade the Brown's Maid was

1435
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,839
Speaker 1: for a Marii Cooper who has worked out and finally

1436
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: showed some Why do we have to have like any

1437
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: any final judgment at any So, if let's say, you know,

1438
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: I think they would like it if the guy that

1439
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: they're paying way more than Patrick Mahomes didn't have the

1440
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: worst six game stretch of his career the second he

1441
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: came back, I know they would like Dan. I don't

1442
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: think it's any way like it's not a fatal blow.

1443
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: If he has another bad game and they go, you

1444
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: go to here's the thing, Like Jared Stiddon hasn't played

1445
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,799
Speaker 1: that much Rock Purty barely played, you're practicing. Deshaun Watson

1446
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: practiced for weeks and weeks before coming in here. He

1447
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: played in the preseason. It's like, even of like big playmaking,

1448
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: he hasn't looked remotely like the player he was. No,

1449
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: I think that has to be concerned. But if you

1450
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: put if you put together a good game and completely

1451
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 1: coming off those they weren't Greg Greg, but they were

1452
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: better than they won this game against Pittsburgh. I think

1453
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: they were inside the building they would like that. I

1454
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 1: think obviously they would have loved to be hit the

1455
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: ground running and was Deshaun Watson of his peak text

1456
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: in days and remember he's still after hit his own mess,

1457
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: of his own creation. Let's not ever forget that. Um

1458
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: that was just as he was essentially entering his prime.

1459
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: He's still a young twentysomething quarterback who I think it's

1460
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: more likely he kind of gets back to that level

1461
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: than not. I don't think the Browns signed up and

1462
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: gave made that trade and changed the way people view

1463
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: their franchise and gave all that guaranteed money to him

1464
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: expecting to be that guy this year. Everything is kind

1465
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: of built towards and beyond. So yeah, well, I totally

1466
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: agree with you. Has not been good. Um, I don't

1467
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: see it personally as like a warning sign or something like, oh,

1468
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: what's going on yere? But I I see the other

1469
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: side of it. You could look at it from that

1470
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 1: point that it has been underwhelming. There's just another universe

1471
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: where two weeks and he he did look good. He

1472
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: did he did get it to speed. He hasn't been

1473
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, frozen in carbon Nite. He's he's been practicing,

1474
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: moving around and operating and working with players on the team.

1475
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: How much has you know Jacoby Brissette plays here and there?

1476
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I you would just would have liked

1477
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: to see more. He's played like at a like a

1478
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: total worst case scenario level. And weirdly, I feel like

1479
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: that's not like everything's like kind of understanding that he's

1480
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: basically been Carson Wentz, you know what I mean? Which

1481
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: is it? I'm I'm even I'm just surprised. What did

1482
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: you think of him before any of this happened as

1483
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: a player, that he was sort of in that five

1484
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 1: to tend top quarterback range. That's what the Browns obviously

1485
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: signed up for. And I think they're and you're right, Dan,

1486
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: like It's not no one's sitting around, you know, hammering

1487
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: the panic button. It's just that like it goes, you

1488
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: want to I think you want to see them close

1489
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: out on offense on a strong note against the Steelers.

1490
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: It's a big for them and to your point of them,

1491
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: like they don't have as much to play for it.

1492
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: That was the case for them last week and they

1493
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: stomped on the Commanders. Good defensive game, good complete game.

1494
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm let me fast forward to the end of September.

1495
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: If this is still the same guy, then I'm like, oh,

1496
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: oh crap here And would there be a bit of

1497
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: karmic justice if that's what Deshaun Watson was now, Yes,

1498
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: it would be perhaps a bit. Mark It's six snakes

1499
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: to you, all right, Gonna pick a late game. I

1500
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: just want to pick a team that I'd love to

1501
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: watch week after week, and that's the Niners. Um squaring

1502
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: off against a team underrated matchup, you know, find different

1503
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: ways to describe what's happening at this point in the draft. UM.

1504
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: A team that needs to get it out of our

1505
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: lives as quickly as possible, and that that includes on

1506
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: home box office like the Arizona Cardinals, just no, I'm

1507
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: not I Greg, Greg and I had we had our podcast,

1508
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: actually did I didn't watch the last episode, but I

1509
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: actually did mostly catch up. How many people know that

1510
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: HBO actually is Home Box Office Page. Now we're listening

1511
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: to this would probably be the entire dune Dune Dunna.

1512
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: Remember that dune Dune Dallas? D Oh? Is that Dallas?

1513
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: I thought that was the old HBO theme. Somebody knows

1514
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. It's someone close, But that's another

1515
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: great Dallas that on CBS. I gotta find this old

1516
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: HBO the I mean back forward throughout these games, we

1517
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: really all right. But imagine if the Arizona Cardinals, I mean,

1518
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: I get Cliff Kingsbury is he's in boiling hot water

1519
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: right now, probably gone, who knows. We don't have any

1520
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: strong hints at the moment um, but he has had

1521
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: to deal with four different quarterbacks. I think most coaches

1522
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: would be in hot water. Then you look at the Niners, though,

1523
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: and it's like Shannahan's had a deal with three and

1524
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: they have like a hundred passer rating no matter who's

1525
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: playing as a team. I mean, they've it's been like

1526
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: a pretty incredible story for Shanahan to develop pretty another

1527
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: guy that just like out of nowhere. He wasn't even

1528
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: in the league a year ago. He's the last pick

1529
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 1: in the draft. He comes in and he's looked incredible,

1530
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: and I just think his chemistry with Brandon a Uk,

1531
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: especially with George Kittle. Kittle has been incredible, with pretty

1532
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: like five touchdowns in the last three starts. It's more

1533
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: than he had for the first fourteen games of the year.

1534
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: Their defense is on fire. I think they got a

1535
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: little flat. They're caught a little flat footed against Jared

1536
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: stid Him in the way that game went. I think

1537
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: if you had another if you had a better idea

1538
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs do of what Stidham might be doing,

1539
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: maybe you don't get that game again. I don't give

1540
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,839
Speaker 1: them a bit of a mulligan. But from top to bottom,

1541
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: this Niners team, I think John Lynch deserves some credit

1542
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: because you were the guy that found a way after

1543
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: all the off season drama to keep Jimmy Garoppolo. You

1544
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 1: needed him. You also drafted Brock Purty, you saw something

1545
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: in him. I know you didn't draft him high or

1546
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: you couldn't have draft the bending lower. So I'm not

1547
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: giving you a blue medal for that, but the Charm

1548
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: Awards signing a blue ribbon. Uh, you went out and

1549
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: got Dre greenlocks ended and you made a trade for

1550
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey that changed your offense. Greg. I'll I'll ask

1551
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: you this all good points, mark Um, because you have

1552
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: said that the AFC teams are all better than the niners. Um,

1553
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: which teams the top three, that's the Big three? Um.

1554
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 1: Have you seen any real drop off in this offense

1555
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: from Garoppolo to Party? No, they've been better. Like that

1556
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: is interesting to me because what if the what if

1557
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback play everything else San Francisco has going for

1558
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 1: it and I'm throwing out the five yards they gave

1559
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,520
Speaker 1: up this past week. It happens. Sometimes football is weird. Um.

1560
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: If the quarterback play was better and then Deebo Samuel

1561
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: comes back, I still I still like their chances, Gregg,

1562
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: against anybody in the league. I just wouldn't. It's not

1563
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: some crazy difference. I just making them like a field

1564
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 1: goal underdog when one has like a Hall of Fame

1565
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: level quarterback and the other the other has. Patrick Mahomes

1566
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: been a great level though, see so he's he's been

1567
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: an interesting guy where like if you look at his

1568
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: PF scores, for instance, he is among the most consistent

1569
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. And he's at a really high level.

1570
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: It's like sixty nine to seventy nine in his grade,

1571
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: which for their grades is like a better than average

1572
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: starting quarterback essentially somewhere in the like the fifteen to

1573
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: ten range. And he's just been steady that guy every week.

1574
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: And that's kind of matches up with what my eyes

1575
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: are showing me, like, like, that's why he's not higher

1576
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: over overcame that too though. It's actually good to make

1577
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: a mistake and see our response and and that's why

1578
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: he's not like higher, that's why he's not a top

1579
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: ten quarterback. And he's not like always creating his own

1580
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: plays like a like a star like Jared's did him. Um,

1581
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: but he's very steady. Um. And you're right, you get

1582
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: Deebo back. It's a great, great team. This is a

1583
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: great spot because I think they would love to sit

1584
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey for the second half of this game, play

1585
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel for like fifteen to twenty snaps, but not

1586
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: get carried away, get like a three or four or lead,

1587
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: because they do want to win this game, but they're

1588
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 1: playing at the same uh time. Uh, Like I'm getting

1589
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: scrambled here. They don't really have anything but the Eagles.

1590
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: They have a chance at the number one seat still right,

1591
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: but they're playing at the same time. That's what I

1592
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: was trying to get to as the Eagles, and so

1593
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 1: their scoreboard watching the Eagles are playing the Giants. If

1594
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: that got out of hand, if the Eagles are up

1595
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: three scores here, but even if the Eagles aren't up

1596
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: three scores, you can win this game with Jordan Mason.

1597
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: You don't need to give Christin McCaffrey thirty. I mean,

1598
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: they're playing the worst team in the league. McCaffrey looks

1599
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: as good to me as he's ever looked. Great player, dog, tough,

1600
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: tough ball player dog. Um, all right, let's move on.

1601
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: I'll grab Vikings at Bears. Uh. Not a lot going

1602
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: on here, just in terms of the matchup because Justin Fields,

1603
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: who's got the hip, he won't play and in week eighteen, Um,

1604
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: so that's not happening. There's a bunch of players for

1605
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: Chicago out of the the lineup. But you take Fields out,

1606
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: they lose every week anyway. Um, This is more just

1607
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: like a straight test for the Vikings. Um can they

1608
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: can they just kick the crap out of the Bears here? Uh?

1609
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: As they must, they absolutely must, coming off another very sobering,

1610
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: um eyebrow raising blowout loss, uh, this time to the

1611
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: Packers at Lambeau, Um, just absolutely destroy the Bears. Go

1612
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: up by twenty at halftime, get some guys out of

1613
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: the lineup, set a couple of team records with Jefferson

1614
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: or cousins, get to you know whatever, thirty touchdowns, whatever

1615
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: you need to do to polish some things up, and

1616
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 1: then sit down and then get ready for the playoffs

1617
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: and what's obviously going to be a first round matchup

1618
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: that will be close, most likely maybe even against the

1619
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: Giants in a rematch. Uh So not a ton of

1620
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: intrigue in terms of the competition here. It should be

1621
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: Vikings in a role. But I'm taking the game in

1622
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: part because that's not how Viking games have worked this year.

1623
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll get another strangely bizarrely competitive fun games.

1624
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: I would could. They'd need to make a ton of

1625
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: mistakes and have somehow Chicago's defense generate points because the

1626
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: drop off from justin fields to Nathan Peterman is like

1627
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 1: literally insane, and I only I do feel that field

1628
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 1: for fields because he had I think a legitimate chance

1629
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: if he had if he went off in this game

1630
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: to break Lamar's ground record, and that's not gonna happen.

1631
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: But I get what they're doing because like he's got

1632
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: a hit. You know, you could tell he was banged

1633
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: up in that game last week, and it's like, why

1634
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: why even messed with it? Who cares about the record? Like,

1635
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: get him into the offseason and spend this offseason surrounding

1636
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: with weapons the way that we've seen other young quarterbacks

1637
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 1: the lines. This team could be competitive and fun next

1638
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: year with a good offseason. He took some big hits

1639
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: last week. He's been playing through stuff that said they

1640
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: know they have a good chance to get that number

1641
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: one draft pick. Oh yeah, Texans Colts is a very

1642
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: winnable game for the Texans, and you get old Peterman here.

1643
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 1: Let's not have any funny business against this Vikings team.

1644
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: Let's go get that member one pick. And oh, by

1645
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: the way, we don't need a quarterback. We don't need

1646
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: Bryce Young best best place to be first sale, Like,

1647
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like they're gonna have, they would have

1648
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: options and we'll talk about it in the off season.

1649
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: It would be um somehow not karmick, what's the word?

1650
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: Just like a nice book end to the season that

1651
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: the one convincing Vikings win of the season was Week

1652
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: one against the Backers, and then you wrap it up

1653
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: hetty into the playoffs week eighteen, and you start feeling

1654
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: good about yourself. If I were the Texans, I would

1655
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: start in my long snapper a quarter. Yeah, I mean,

1656
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 1: is not mess around the scenario you're suggesting has Houston

1657
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: winning immuously to this game. They can't be that done

1658
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: until last week. That your pick up next Greg, Uh,

1659
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: it's not. But oh well you could have. That would

1660
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: have been a perfect and we can kind of roll

1661
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: through already about them for now like a minute and

1662
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: a half. That then I would have to watch that

1663
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: game and I never played, putting that on game pass

1664
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: to the highlights. Why would you need to watch Housing whatever?

1665
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: Justin says, Oh, I could watch the Cults lose to

1666
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: the Texas. Yeah, give it to me, because we're still

1667
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: talking about those two teams. We're still talking about this

1668
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 1: at this mont where the show Ship, showman Ship, Hello

1669
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: My Baby, Hello Coming up in the off season. By

1670
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: the way, the Cults went thirty one straight drives until

1671
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger took the ball in garbage to sell it

1672
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: when it didn't matter against the Giants last week. Well,

1673
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: this is not selling, This is making fun of the Colts.

1674
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: Thirty one straight drives without a touchdown before a garbage

1675
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: time touchdown last week. That's a lot of drives thirty one.

1676
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: So you can't tell me the Texans there are some

1677
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 1: huge underdog in this game. Okay, that's all. That's why

1678
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: the long snapper needs to play quarterback for the Texans.

1679
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: Who is a long snapper of the Texans? When we look,

1680
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean they're already they're already playing two quarterbacks week

1681
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: after week. Just make it a third and say it's

1682
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: part of our plan. And the third guy the long

1683
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: val scored by the way, this season, even before you know,

1684
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: including the right games which were more competitive, they were three,

1685
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: three and one. By the way, when they blew this

1686
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: team up, all right, they're They're point differential is worse

1687
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: than the Texans this season. The Texans long snapper is

1688
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: uh from Baylor, um my wife's alma mater. Um. He

1689
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: is five two pounds thirty six year old John Weeks.

1690
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: We get Weeks now, it's gonna take some roster maneuvering.

1691
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 1: You're gonna make sure he gets on the depth chart

1692
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: so you can uh send him up the depth chart.

1693
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: But you get John Weeks at quarterback. He is a

1694
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: um he went to college in Texas. Uh he is

1695
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: now a Houston player. That's not what you do. What

1696
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: you start, Davis Mills, you break out every single big

1697
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: play that you've ever had in Lovey Smith walks out

1698
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 1: of the building with two double birds. Everyone, I dare

1699
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: you to fire another coach after one year and I

1700
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: just ruined your number one seed Jerks. It's that would

1701
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: be an evil conclusion for the Texans and the best

1702
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: thing they would deserve it though, the Texans organization who

1703
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: did not cover themselves in glory and and lost uh

1704
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: some money on top of other things when they handled

1705
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson thing. Let's give it to the Bears.

1706
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: And if if they fired love I'm not as negative

1707
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: about like that. If they actually if they kept loving

1708
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,799
Speaker 1: the whole like David Culley Lovey Jack easterby Deshaun Watson.

1709
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't exactly a lovable organizing. No, no,

1710
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: it's not. And the only thing I'll say on the

1711
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: Cult side UM, at the risk of circling back to

1712
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: the cave on Thibodeau situation, is Jeff Saturday also Um

1713
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: also had said, UM, two things annoyed me about that situation,

1714
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 1: cav being trash in that spot and my offensive line

1715
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: not defending my quarterback. I think I liked. I think

1716
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: he's totally right about point man. Is there anything that

1717
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: is right about this Colts team? It's uh that we

1718
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: would need to ask zak Key for someone that tracks

1719
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: this team closely over the years. But is there ever

1720
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: been a more um we called it the worst Cults

1721
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 1: team has ever followed like Saturday calling out at least,

1722
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: you know what, if he's gone to call him out

1723
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: for something that's right, they should be the definition of

1724
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,440
Speaker 1: more abund And if they lose at home to the Texans,

1725
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: that will be one of the most more abund facilities

1726
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: that we've seen all season. They will let them hear

1727
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: it's been a dark campaign, all right. Let's move on,

1728
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 1: Chargers Broncos. How about the Commanders, by the way, sending

1729
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: two third round picks to the Colts to get Carson wentz,

1730
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: we we don't even we have Commander's Cowboys. By the way,

1731
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 1: somehow Texans Colts got taken before that. Well, go ahead,

1732
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: I'm I'm taking charges of Broncos strategy. That's just a teach.

1733
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: This game might not have any playoff implications because the

1734
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,520
Speaker 1: Ravens play earlier, and if that's the case, the Chargers

1735
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: are expected to sit a lot of their best players.

1736
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: Brandon's Daley said essentially that he said it without saying it,

1737
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: but he indicated pretty strongly that based on the earlier results,

1738
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: will be smart about things. So that could mean Chase

1739
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: Daniel being at quarterback for the Chargers, no Derwin James,

1740
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, like all the guys that you

1741
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: would think the Broncos are actually favored in this game. Now,

1742
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: based on that press conference, I believe now if the

1743
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: Ravens do win early, which is not crazy, I think

1744
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: the Chargers are gonna play. I think they've made it

1745
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: clear that they want to try to get that five seeds.

1746
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a weird spot. There was no

1747
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: right way for the NFL to do this, just based

1748
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 1: on the timing of everything and that happened on on Monday,

1749
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: I will say, like of all the of some of

1750
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: these a FC teams, you know, we got a couple

1751
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: of teams who are gonna back into the play offs

1752
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: and about as fierce of fashion as possible. The way

1753
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: that the Charges have played since Williams and like they

1754
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: they've had their white House back Keenan Allen as well,

1755
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: like they have been they've been four now since that time,

1756
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: their offense has looked completely different. Me they finally crossed

1757
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: the thirty point barrier a week ago. They're running the

1758
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,759
Speaker 1: ball really well. They have Joey Bosa back on defense

1759
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 1: a year no no in like since like week five

1760
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: or something, you could tell they've been a pent up offense.

1761
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: We went through the Justin Herbert injury situation. They're finally healthy.

1762
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: It's just like, all right, maybe this Chargers team for

1763
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: once can hit the postseason um with the right foot.

1764
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: Until it's like I, I there's always been a team

1765
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,879
Speaker 1: you're counting essentially go one and out in the playoffs

1766
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: in these situations. Stalely I think has proven himself as

1767
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: a coach on defense. Their defense has been altered and

1768
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: shown of late, and so I like the situation for them,

1769
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: but they're usually better than their record, and this year

1770
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: maybe their verse is true. They actually like Chargers. Fans

1771
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: is always think they have the worst luck in the world.

1772
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 1: I think they've been a little fortunate. They were a

1773
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: little fortunate to be at six, and when they got there,

1774
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: kind of got a little lucky. Even their coach admitted it.

1775
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: And then they kind of faced the Titans, and not

1776
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: that they didn't earn those wins against the Titans and Dolphins,

1777
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: but they got them in a good time at the

1778
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: right time, and then a nice easy schedule, and you

1779
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: know what, the Charges deserve a little good luck. And

1780
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: I think we'll enjoy seeing Justin Herbert in the playoffs.

1781
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: Will be fun. All Right, let's take a break and

1782
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: we'll finish out the draft. All right, we're back, and

1783
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: I will grab that NFC East affair with the next

1784
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Dallas at Washington. Tuddy the Pig

1785
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 1: and his his final appearance of this season. What a seasons.

1786
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: It would be funny if it um monster that it

1787
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: is got wiped away by a new regime. The ownership

1788
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 1: was like, no, we don't want the pig that got

1789
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: introduced at halftime of Week seventeen, we're gonna do a

1790
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: different mascot, and then he exists as this incredibly minor

1791
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: footnote in in world his three like a two week

1792
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 1: half human, half pig mascot, probably like hanging out of pork,

1793
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: as Nick Shook said, yeah, hanging out of like a

1794
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: Washington d C dive bar or or a Maryland dive bar,

1795
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: depending on where it'll be. Where do you house this pig?

1796
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: A footnote similar to the Carson Wentz Week seventeen start

1797
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 1: that Ron Rivera decided to give that like ended everyone's career.

1798
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: I hope it's not a footnote Sam how will start

1799
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: for the Commanders in a meaningless game. Well not for

1800
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: Sam how Um and perhaps not for Ron Rivera. But

1801
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 1: the Commanders are eliminated. The Cowboys, believe it or not,

1802
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: still have a path through the number one seed in

1803
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: the NFC if everything broke for their in their way,

1804
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: so they get it if they take care of business

1805
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: against the Commanders and then the Eagles loose to the

1806
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: Giants and the forty in Irons loose to the Cardinals.

1807
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's the path, But you can it's

1808
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,879
Speaker 1: something as simple as it, and this would be stunning.

1809
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: The Eagles lost to the Giants and the Cowboys one

1810
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: they win the NFC East and get the home game

1811
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 1: is not that's not a crazy create the number one

1812
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 1: seed were the starters, I would say like at least

1813
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: there's a shot of it. It feels like this is

1814
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna be where the Cowboys are as

1815
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: the top wild card seed. But crazier things have happened.

1816
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it doesn't work out this way.

1817
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: But looking at this five pack of four games, we

1818
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: could have a Chargers game playing backups forty Niners and

1819
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: Eagles just like whitewashing. And if their opponents and I

1820
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys will absolutely be scoreboard watching. And if

1821
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles are up by three or four touchdowns, I

1822
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: think they'll start sitting there starting. Yeah. It's it might

1823
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: not be a great little sequence. That's why I haven't

1824
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: watching Gina Lowebb for drama. But but the NFL season

1825
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: tells us that one of those situations is gonna go

1826
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: totally haywire, if not two or three of them. Oh no,

1827
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: I selid company man. I'm not being a company man.

1828
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: It's just like I actually wouldn't mind if it's just

1829
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: like a nice neat everything's nice and neat. But it's

1830
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: not going to be that way because every one of

1831
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 1: these games it's you're probably right, let's and there was

1832
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: a report, uh Jeremy Fowler. The team had expected the

1833
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: Washington Um Commanders just go with Taylor Heineke on Sunday,

1834
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: but that changed when Heineke told the coaches that it

1835
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 1: should be rookie Sam how instead, as Heineke felt that

1836
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Howell was deserving of playing. Well, if that's true, you know,

1837
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:25,520
Speaker 1: good on Taylor Heineke. What a class act. But in reality,

1838
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's a further illustrates to me

1839
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: that the Washington football team needs to reboot the whole thing,

1840
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: including quarterback, including head coach, and about that as well.

1841
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 1: It's not working. I I kind of am interested to

1842
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 1: see Sam Howell. That was interesting in the preseason, sure,

1843
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: but I hate pick. Here's what I guess happened here.

1844
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 1: Heineck was benched. He was extremely upset and he didn't

1845
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: want to start. And this is I'm just speculating, and

1846
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: then this story comes out. I don't like it. But

1847
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: Greg so last a little bit of a uh spin

1848
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: job is what if a job? But there was? There

1849
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: were Reggie Ragland from the Browns, who knows a bunch

1850
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: of players on on Washington, basically said after they after

1851
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 1: they lost to the Browns that I know guys over

1852
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: there and they all wanted Heineke to start. We talked

1853
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: about this with Carson. Think you blew up the locker

1854
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: room with that one. I do. I think that was

1855
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: a messy move. I totally agree. I I was saying

1856
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: it wasn't crazy for me to start Whins. I was

1857
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: obviously wrong. Wins played the worst game I think any

1858
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: commander's quarterback has played all year. He completely collapsed. And

1859
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind Heinek saying no, I'm not starting, guys,

1860
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: you you bench me. I don't like if someone from

1861
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: the Heineke camp is putting this out there after the fact,

1862
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: that's what I wouldn't like. I would respect him saying

1863
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: no thanks. I don't know how big, but I'm sure

1864
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: he's got a camp putting out these air Jordan's. You know,

1865
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: totally fair to be extremely annoyment. What I don't need

1866
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: to hear that? You want to see same? How will start?

1867
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: But they have professional reporters down there covering that team,

1868
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 1: including the Washington Post, um all over this team, and

1869
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: someone's gonna follow up with Rondevere and say, hey, is

1870
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: it true that you were going to start Heineke and

1871
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: then he volunteered that he didn't want to play. Unless

1872
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Ronevere is then going to carry the Heineke camps water. Uh,

1873
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't quite pass the mustard test either. I'm just saying, like,

1874
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 1: if that's a phony um spin job, that could easily

1875
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: get blown up just by asking the head coach if

1876
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: it's true. It's like the least important story that I'm

1877
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: totally fascinated by, and we need to find out. We

1878
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: need a reporter to Rivera is like, wait, well there

1879
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 1: is a game this week, Like coach, the coach shouldn't

1880
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 1: need to know that he's in his bunk? What what?

1881
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: What now? Greg? What? Well ahead? It's more of these

1882
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: articles like I'm seeing it everywhere, like oh, Taylor Heineke

1883
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 1: with a great gesture. It's just like, I thought you're

1884
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna get honest for being too critical of Ron Rivera,

1885
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 1: who is a lion of a man. But perhaps it's

1886
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:13,719
Speaker 1: time son. Rivera was that video of him telling Jeremy

1887
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: Reeves that he made the Pro Bowl. You guys remember

1888
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 1: that video. It's heartwarming. Wait you're the one where Yeah,

1889
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: nice video, that's what I mean. Like that showed me

1890
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 1: what his players felt of him and what a guy

1891
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: he was. Just say, you know, answer for a guy

1892
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 1: like respected a great player in his day. Perhaps it's

1893
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 1: time for the commanders to go and take command in

1894
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 1: a different direction. I don't know's. I don't want to

1895
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: be a bad guy about him, like Ron Mark finished

1896
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: this all right, Bucks at Falcons? The Bucks could decide

1897
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: we have another one after that too. By the way,

1898
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: well there's two more, but this is the most the

1899
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 1: first one. But what's that Falcons? Yeah, I think this

1900
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: is a sleeper. I I guess like we're not probably

1901
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 1: not gonna see. It's kind of a tough week. It's

1902
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: a strange week, but it's often we'll have to wait

1903
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: till the playoffs to find out if if the Bucks

1904
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 1: and if Brady and Mike Evans have the same connection

1905
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: they did last time. I thought it was a really

1906
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 1: hopeful thing. I'm not trusting that that's going to just

1907
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: carry over. But I have told you the week after

1908
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: week that this Bucks team or the winner of the South.

1909
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm saying it again now that they

1910
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: will win that home playoff game. But I would say

1911
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: that would be an extremely foolish thing to say unless

1912
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 1: their offense shows up the way it did last week.

1913
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there won't be a huge they're gonna be

1914
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: if that's not so funny about this, It's not like

1915
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: totally maybe the as the kids say, the flex you

1916
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: think it is. It's like that wouldn't be crazy. I'm

1917
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 1: not saying it's the flex I think it is. It's

1918
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: just that I've been saying that since like week five.

1919
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: Are you saying, well, you're also saying that if the

1920
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: offense shows up, like yes, of course. If no, I'm

1921
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: saying the team that scored thirty seven points shows up,

1922
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: they can probably win a game as like a two

1923
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: and a half point underdog. That's not really what I'm

1924
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: saying it all, Greggy. It's actually that they should feel encourage.

1925
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:09,879
Speaker 1: How the uh? I thought Tom Brady and the starters

1926
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 1: might play most of this game, but then Todd Bowle

1927
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: said he wants to see all three quarterbacks in this game,

1928
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: So I guess it's yeah. I think it's just just

1929
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: in time, the the the Evans Brady connection come into life,

1930
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 1: and can we just a little love for Mike Evans

1931
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 1: is like one of the great players of at his

1932
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: position of the last you know, ten years. Like that

1933
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: was for a guy that's on I think the other

1934
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: side of thirty now the way he was just and

1935
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I know they're beat up in the secondary um in

1936
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 1: Carolina with j C. Horn out, but still like that,

1937
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 1: he's just blowing by dudes and and winning that game

1938
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: almost singlehandedly. Shout out to Mike Evans for being that dude.

1939
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:54,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely alpha wide out. Absolutely. Finally, Mark Sasler, the Cardinals

1940
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,480
Speaker 1: at the Niners, is that No, this is the Panthers

1941
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: at the Saints, both eliminated for their play After this game,

1942
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was you know, the Saints showed up

1943
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: last week. I thought that was pretty incredible job by

1944
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 1: their defense. Absolutely, I mean that's sort of the Saint

1945
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 1: We talked about the Saints that this high variants team.

1946
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 1: It was like some of that was like I would

1947
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,480
Speaker 1: rather see that version of the Saints in the postseason

1948
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: than a number of other teams. Uh. In general, I'd

1949
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,719
Speaker 1: say for the Panthers, I really am rooting for Steve

1950
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: Wilkes to keep this job. I think he did a

1951
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 1: lot with them. They came within that one game of

1952
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: being a team going out there that he's talked to

1953
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: the Pants well, the temper has that, yeah, that they've

1954
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 1: talked and Jim Harbor reportedly has a very and I

1955
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 1: feel like we've maybe heard this before, but a very

1956
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: strong interest in rejoining our league. He would you rather

1957
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 1: go to the because the Broncos have been linked to

1958
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh to a deal with the idea of reviving

1959
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson gives you or a Panther's team that has

1960
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 1: no quarterback Panthers. I think so too, because I think

1961
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: like there's there's more to work with here. I like,

1962
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: I think you can feel to build your team. You're

1963
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: kind of hemmed in whoever takes that Broncos job. It's

1964
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: like you're hoping that Wilson bounces back. If not, you're

1965
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 1: gonna get fired. Karb was desperate to get a job

1966
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: last year, putting every media source out there that he

1967
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 1: could and tried to interview and did interview with The

1968
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: Divide help him. He didn't get a job. This time.

1969
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: It seems like there's there's a better chance. I think

1970
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 1: this is a sneaky huge game for these two coaches.

1971
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 1: Maybe based on that, Steve Wilkes doesn't have a great chance.

1972
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 1: I do think Dennis Allen winning a fourth straight game

1973
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: with his defense playing really well at the end of

1974
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,719
Speaker 1: the season will help him. But if they get blown

1975
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 1: up here by the Panthers and it's just like uh

1976
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: want want want ending like, and they end up seven

1977
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: and ten in Sean Payton's looming, then I think this

1978
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,600
Speaker 1: is a big game. We It shouldn't be, but I

1979
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: think him winning four straight games would be very help.

1980
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: But Sean Payton go back to the Saints is another

1981
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 1: team with major quarterback issues and a total void there.

1982
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:09,879
Speaker 1: I love that they have been this. This matchup involves

1983
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: the number one past defense in the league according to

1984
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 1: d v O a versus the number one pass offense

1985
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: in the league over the last five weeks. What it's

1986
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,759
Speaker 1: basically because it's a perth row basis and perth throw.

1987
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: The Panthers when they've thrown the ball are picking up

1988
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: first downs. At Sam Tarld, I thought, outside of the

1989
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: turnover stuff against the Bucks, played the best game he's

1990
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 1: ever played. Enough. I I wish I had this game,

1991
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 1: even though it doesn't mean anything, I still love that

1992
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: NFC number one you can have Texans and traded for

1993
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: number two in Week one in September. You might need

1994
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 1: to talk to Nick Shook about that because it's sort

1995
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 1: of a shook so you know how this works. So

1996
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,560
Speaker 1: but I can think it's half my assets, so I

1997
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 1: can number two. We just sit on that all off.

1998
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: That's building for next year. I like that speak game

1999
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 1: next year. Before we sign off. Here are the coaches

2000
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 1: that I feel like are in some level of peril

2001
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 1: entering Week eight team with Black Monday right around the corner.

2002
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: Zeus is bringing this up now because by Sunday night

2003
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: it's easier and some guys might be fired by then.

2004
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, Chief Set Raiders, probably fine, but just mentioning it.

2005
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 1: Texans with Levey Smith, Colts, Jeff Saturday obviously an intern.

2006
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: You have another intern Wilkes Panthers at STS Dennis Allen.

2007
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen could really use a win to end the

2008
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: season on a four game winning streak. I don't know

2009
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 1: Saints fans want to hear that, but I feel like

2010
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 1: he might. But he might be in good position there

2011
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: if they end up playing good football to close the season. Um,

2012
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 1: the Broncos have an interim, obviously they will be making

2013
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 1: a change. Cliff Kingsbury a lot of speculation that he'll

2014
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: be coaching his last game. I don't know if he

2015
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 1: could save his job. It doesn't matter what happens in

2016
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 1: some of these cases. How weird football is, guys can

2017
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: save their jobs. Potentially the win on Sunday not there.

2018
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 1: And finally the aw for mentioned Ron Rivera, I don't know,

2019
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how strong that is. But also so

2020
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: much instability in that organization right now, Um, I think

2021
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: behooves him to win. I kind of think the ownership

2022
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: situation might play in his faith because is the owner,

2023
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:23,679
Speaker 1: you know, that's who making that decision. The owner really

2024
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 1: want to make a change if they're making a change

2025
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: in terms of their job. And then there's there's always

2026
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: one surprise, and I would throw you know, and I

2027
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: guess it's not as big a surprise if you throw

2028
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 1: names out there, but I would put the Raiders, Jets, Dolphins,

2029
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:41,839
Speaker 1: Patriots in Brown as one where there could be a surprise.

2030
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 1: Do you think Belichick would just mean eventually leave because

2031
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: he's not going to do what they want him to do.

2032
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be it wouldn't be a surprise, not be

2033
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 1: the word. Yeah, it wouldn't be a surprise if if

2034
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: you totally saw it coming. But that when it's just like,

2035
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't think any of those would be totally shocking.

2036
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: Let's track that. Who want? Would you imagine I'm the

2037
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: coach of the Patriots following Bill Belichick? Have a good

2038
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 1: time with that the job I don't want. All Right,

2039
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 1: we'll track it if anyone of that five pack has

2040
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:12,640
Speaker 1: a change football. It's it's hard to believe how unpredictable

2041
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 1: it can be. All Right, thank you to everyone for watching,

2042
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: for listening. Uh, we'll be back on Sunday night with

2043
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 1: the Week eighteen Flagship Show, where you will have a

2044
01:42:23,760 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 1: full picture of the postseason. Probably until then, heave a call. M. S.