Speaker 1: Bulet Cash Show, special guests in here, multiple time guests.
Speaker 1: My guy, this is the drum Work Podcast, essentially, Conway,
Speaker 1: the machine is here. It was good. Welcome, welcome, man, God,
Speaker 1: don't make mistakes. You played me this album a year
Speaker 1: and a half ago, August twenty twenty. That's crazy to
Speaker 1: think about that. And a lot of the album is
Speaker 1: pretty much kind of what you played me. Obviously, there
Speaker 1: was some surprise features you got. I mean, we'll just
Speaker 1: got Beanie Siegull on the fucking project, which I don't
Speaker 1: think I remember hearing the first time you played it. Man,
Speaker 1: this is the Shady Records. This is your Shady Records commitment.
Speaker 1: You owe them one album. It's finally coming. How you
Speaker 1: feeling He's your debut. Let's be honest, but it's your
Speaker 1: Shady Records debut. Shady Records Interscope, my first album, I
Speaker 1: got Interscope. People calling me about you, like, hey, would
Speaker 1: you be interested in interviewing Conway? Do you know who
Speaker 1: he is? I'm like, are you fucking getting me? A? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's fine. How you feeling them? Man? I'm excited for
Speaker 1: the you know, finally be able to touch the streets. Man,
Speaker 1: people can get a chance to you know, to hear
Speaker 1: what I've been working on over the years. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I think that you have obviously had the Streets
Speaker 1: in your pocket all the Grisella has for the last
Speaker 1: five six years. So knowing that this album was your
Speaker 1: Shady Records debut, you had to have had like a
Speaker 1: real vision as to what you wanted this to sound like.
Speaker 1: Because it's kind of been done for a while and
Speaker 1: you've put out so many other projects. What was like
Speaker 1: the main goal with this album? Like what was like
Speaker 1: when you were like, okay, like what what did a
Speaker 1: song have to have for to make this the cut?
Speaker 1: For this one? Just that pain, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That feel you know what I'm saying. I wanted you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I just wanted that pain
Speaker 1: on the ship. You know records like you know the
Speaker 1: Kyle that was from this album, Like the car record
Speaker 1: was for God to make mistakes. Uh, you know, so
Speaker 1: I was always in that bag, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Just I just wanted to get niggast that pain the
Speaker 1: cow originally was meant for this album. Yeah wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy record of that ship. It was gonna be
Speaker 1: the intro to my album and uh, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the fuck happened. I came,
Speaker 1: when I came back, I left, and when I came
Speaker 1: back to Damrense your house. And you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the little fuck played the play it for West and
Speaker 1: he took it West and threw his verse song and
Speaker 1: kept it for his album, his ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's why I you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: when I when I make my ship with dren, try
Speaker 1: I keep my ship secret, Like, don't tell that motherfucker West.
Speaker 1: Don't what I'm doing. Don't play these ships for West.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Right when I heard it beat,
Speaker 1: I picked with Old You know what I mean? Bro Go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that did that happen a lot with this where you
Speaker 1: would have you had stuff recorded for this project and
Speaker 1: it ended up in other places like ship, Uh, Kyle
Speaker 1: bang with Eminem you know that ain't that didn't make Uh?
Speaker 1: You know that got leap and ship you Gotta City
Speaker 1: on the map with Wow that was for this album. Wow.
Speaker 1: I want to say, I don't know if y'all remember
Speaker 1: that missed the Foogie ship that was for this album.
Speaker 1: May store was for a lot of What was she
Speaker 1: Gonna Do was for this album. Wow, it's crazy because
Speaker 1: what you could do is you could put a record
Speaker 1: like Bang as a bonus track. You gotta do the
Speaker 1: major label game now, you know, kind of hack the
Speaker 1: numbers a little bit, owners track action. Yeah, we're making
Speaker 1: so much ship though. We don't be tricking out that
Speaker 1: ship man, you know, like when we did the Cow,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. You got to fix
Speaker 1: the Cow on DSPs though, because on Spotify it doesn't
Speaker 1: say your name. Yeah, it's just west. Like when you
Speaker 1: when I search up Conway to the Cow doesn't come up.
Speaker 1: You gotta search up by side gun. Yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: gotta fix that. Heavmpire fix it. You gotta be a
Speaker 1: primary artist on that fucking record. You know. I'm used
Speaker 1: to giving my flowers. Are you feel like you're finally
Speaker 1: getting them? Though? Yeah's see, just in general, I feel
Speaker 1: like the last couple of years you've I feel like
Speaker 1: people have finally started to give you the recognition is
Speaker 1: like top two three rap around Earth whenever you are
Speaker 1: are in your bag, that's still an understatement. I know
Speaker 1: how you feel. No, I know how you feel. No, no,
Speaker 1: but I know how you feel you're in this ship
Speaker 1: to be acknowledge is number one. But no, I'm just
Speaker 1: joking around though, man. But yeah, i feel like I'm
Speaker 1: starting to starting to you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see it more. I would say that
Speaker 1: I feel like it's probably you know, it's been a
Speaker 1: lot of guys, especially to me, the people that matter, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been hearing ship like this from you know,
Speaker 1: early on, from like people like DJ Clark King, you know,
Speaker 1: saying my nigga Raj and a King combat Jack, you know,
Speaker 1: Nori and them, Wou tang Uh, you know Royce. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm signing the eminem uh, you know, just
Speaker 1: like people like that. Like I've been hearing that I've
Speaker 1: been getting my flowers from from you know, from them Buster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you get flowers from all those guys. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a hip hop nigga, Like I'm a
Speaker 1: hip hop head like from like the nineties though, like
Speaker 1: the nineties, the Grammy nineties era, so like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I had like Product, he was my big brother,
Speaker 1: feah me, like all all the people like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean that you would identify with from that era
Speaker 1: in the grimmy nineties. Fuck with me, woutang watch the DMX.
Speaker 1: I was on DMX album personally to uh, you know
Speaker 1: the locks kissing styles and them of my brothers. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I said, p was my
Speaker 1: brother have on my album, my last album, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Method Man, Lemonade was a moment Math.
Speaker 1: It's kind of dope to see Meth through Lemonade in
Speaker 1: the verses too. Yeah, it was amazing to see I
Speaker 1: comet believe he did that with shout out to Meth
Speaker 1: for that. But you know, like I was saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know, ship, like that is what mattered to me
Speaker 1: the most. So I don't really care about you know, niggas.
Speaker 1: You know niggas, I don't care about y'all listens, and
Speaker 1: I don't care about none of that ship. I do
Speaker 1: just from a competitor standpoint, just if because I'd just
Speaker 1: be feeling like, you know, that's what anybody you think
Speaker 1: niggas Look at the top seventy five NBA and like, man,
Speaker 1: how I ain't forty nine? What crazy average? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Right, twenty five points for the people
Speaker 1: who did. I don't think they did that, and did
Speaker 1: they do that shit in order? I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I'm just nobody to hear you. Like, if you're Dwight Howard,
Speaker 1: you're pissed off you didn't make the list because you're like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Yeah, you probably don't make you lose
Speaker 1: no sleep. It's like, I felt like I did enough
Speaker 1: to deserve, you know, the type of recognition, But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I really don't give a fuck about that,
Speaker 1: like because I feel like I'm already validated, and I
Speaker 1: wont because I got people like busting them niggas and
Speaker 1: Ray and Royce and Meth and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: right like they told me I'm nice nas whole I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: you get the whole record finally, which was a moment.
Speaker 1: I feel like last year in general, you had so
Speaker 1: many moments on when it came to just whether it
Speaker 1: was Dondo, whether it was working with Hole, I mean,
Speaker 1: just the DMX album, like just some real, just iconic
Speaker 1: rap shit bucket list ship probably last year that you
Speaker 1: could just check off, like Okay, we got a song
Speaker 1: with Hoe, you know what I mean? Okay, you know
Speaker 1: and Kanye shit. Okay, cool, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like these are this bucket list shit. Being on DMX's
Speaker 1: last album, knowing that you were on his album. Yeah,
Speaker 1: doing the BT Awards, knowing DMX wanted you. You know,
Speaker 1: you could have been on like a you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of times when people passed, we get an album afterwards,
Speaker 1: and sometimes the features aren't authorized. But like DMX talked
Speaker 1: about y'all's record, you know what I'm saying. So did
Speaker 1: that feel good? Like last year? Obviously, like you know,
Speaker 1: list aside all that shit, like just personally on some
Speaker 1: like rap fan shit, the kind of shit you got
Speaker 1: to be a part of last year had to be real.
Speaker 1: Just had to feel good. Man, it felt amazing. I'm
Speaker 1: just so thankful and grateful for everybody that you know,
Speaker 1: play the part and and all of that. Like everything
Speaker 1: you named and even the stuff you didn't name, you did. Man,
Speaker 1: you did a lot last year. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: records last year was the record DoD with j I D.
Speaker 1: That ship is fucking crazy. Yeah, that had me on
Speaker 1: fat and then obviously Scatterbrain came, but but just in general, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just so much, man, I can just you know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just truly truly amazing. Man. It's dope, Man,
Speaker 1: it's dope. A lot of a lot of moments. Let's
Speaker 1: go through some of them. So talk about the J
Speaker 1: Record because obviously we always think about right before the
Speaker 1: pandemic hit, you performing the cow hugging hole on the
Speaker 1: side at Novo. I was at the show that was.
Speaker 1: That was the last show I went to before everything
Speaker 1: shut down. I think there was a lot of people's
Speaker 1: last shows in l A at least was. But how
Speaker 1: did the J Record end up finally happening, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's obviously when you start running in those circles.
Speaker 1: You know, man, you know the universe is. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is a motherfucker man. I just you know, man,
Speaker 1: Chad like, yoh got a joint? I need you to knockout?
Speaker 1: Is gonna be with you or Jay and kiss? I'm like,
Speaker 1: what you feel me like, it's the fuck out of here,
Speaker 1: Like not for real, bro, ship I did my verse
Speaker 1: at that time, they verses wasn't on it, so you
Speaker 1: just got the beat right. My huk was on right, right,
Speaker 1: right right. You know what I'm saying. I'm just like yo,
Speaker 1: but I didn't even know that Jay was gonna be
Speaker 1: on it until after I did it. Let me take
Speaker 1: that back, like cause like I think at first they
Speaker 1: I'm thinking they was talking like me, Jay Electronica and Jadakiss,
Speaker 1: they just said they said J So I was like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: and uh so I did this ship and damn, I
Speaker 1: was wondering I wanted to hear it and shipn't like
Speaker 1: waiting on the whole versus like ole getting on this too,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I told you j Jadakis you J and
Speaker 1: Jadakiss and jay Z Nigga. I'm like, man, get the
Speaker 1: fuck out of here, you know what I mean? That
Speaker 1: shit just like that shit was just crazy to me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then uh man, you know,
Speaker 1: just shout out the whole. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: too much, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: what was your reaction though when you first heard the
Speaker 1: prop like when you first heard his verse next to
Speaker 1: your verse on a record, Like was it did the
Speaker 1: song already come out? Was it right before it came out?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, nah, I ain't hear I ain't hear it,
Speaker 1: mantil it came out honestly, I didn't hear it, so
Speaker 1: it was available on dsp seah, and I was like
Speaker 1: sharing the link in the bio and shit like that.
Speaker 1: But man, that shit just was like, Man, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie like out of the pop up bottle of Champagne,
Speaker 1: bottle of Spade, like and just on I was on
Speaker 1: celebratory time, like like what the fuck, bro, I'm really,
Speaker 1: god damn really doing this ship you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know we chopped, you know, man, Me,
Speaker 1: me and Brick bro talk all the time. I've seen
Speaker 1: him at a I don't know y'all seeing the pictures
Speaker 1: and stuff. At the it was like the premiere or whatever,
Speaker 1: like the Harder They Fall premiere, and you know, I
Speaker 1: may kind of had a little chop or a little conversation.
Speaker 1: It was just like I couldn't believe, you know it
Speaker 1: just it just was like wow, Like, man, I wish
Speaker 1: I could share that convo with That's for y'all, though, Man,
Speaker 1: you know that's big with obviously you you being on DONDA.
Speaker 1: I remember when he did the second stream and like
Speaker 1: that that song wasn't on there. I was like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? I was like, no, I
Speaker 1: was like, Jay, it ain't on the intro. I was,
Speaker 1: But did that come from I mean obviously we talked
Speaker 1: about how you and Gun went to Wyoming. Uh what
Speaker 1: was that like two years ago? Now right, it's been
Speaker 1: a minute. You want a couple of times? I want
Speaker 1: a few times out there? That's crazy? He did that
Speaker 1: record get made out there? Or was this something where
Speaker 1: you had to be out there? So that was that
Speaker 1: was a record that's been cut for a while. Then, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a few cut a few that, Yeah, a few. I
Speaker 1: think that was the only one. I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: many like West did with him, but I'm not I
Speaker 1: cut a few out there with him. Maybe get one
Speaker 1: for the you know what, we'll see, we'll see, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We'll see. No for sure were
Speaker 1: you were you able to go to I know I
Speaker 1: saw from I remember Gun was on the porch with
Speaker 1: like Maryland man That ship was messed that one. That
Speaker 1: ship was wild. I'm like the baby westside, Gun and
Speaker 1: Maryland Manson are just sitting there fresh off the Baby
Speaker 1: being canceled. Yeah, like what the fuck is going this
Speaker 1: is crazy going on. I missed that one, but I
Speaker 1: went to like the one in Atlanta, So you were
Speaker 1: you had to go to Atlanta? Did you get to
Speaker 1: like he had like the fucking he was like living there? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't go all the way like I was. I
Speaker 1: was in New York doing some stuff, so I was able.
Speaker 1: I just kind of like flew out there for a
Speaker 1: day and dipped, Like I just went out there for
Speaker 1: like the like the concert or whatever. Right when he
Speaker 1: was out there with like the red shit on and
Speaker 1: all that. I remember that. Yeah, would you say how
Speaker 1: would you say you and Kanye's relationship is at this point,
Speaker 1: because like obviously if you've been to Wyoming a few times,
Speaker 1: you got to have some report with him. I liked it, man,
Speaker 1: It's dope. You know what I'm saying. I think we
Speaker 1: got a you know, pretty good relationship. Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, if I need to, you know, tapping
Speaker 1: with Brous that's nothing to do. He fooled me and
Speaker 1: just the love the Man show. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm forever grateful, Like WHN I slept on a man ranch,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was out there for
Speaker 1: a week or two longer than that. Probably that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I've been with him, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I've been to Doctor Dre House. Great fucking with Kanye
Speaker 1: first time, Like you know what I'm saying, Fucking Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had me at Doctor Dre like coming up with
Speaker 1: hooks and ship for Doctor Dre, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean here and unreleased little music and ship like he
Speaker 1: was playing he pressed play button on some fire like
Speaker 1: I've heard I got a funny ass story about that night.
Speaker 1: To please tell us the story. You can't give us
Speaker 1: the Dre story, not yet. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's it's okay. Niggas want that out there. But how
Speaker 1: was dra dra? Cool ass dude man, And you know
Speaker 1: it was so cool about it. He actually remembered me
Speaker 1: and that ship like ship that remember me, like because
Speaker 1: I get there, Like it's funny because I was. I was.
Speaker 1: I've been on the ranch and I've been before I
Speaker 1: went to the ranch like he had a yeah before
Speaker 1: I was in Wyoming like yay had a studio, uh
Speaker 1: in Calabasas somewhere somewhere out there, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I was out there, you know, working
Speaker 1: on some music and ship with him. But in Yay's studios,
Speaker 1: like real churchy vibes and shit, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Yay on this. You know you're a Christian
Speaker 1: and stuff, So it's not really the same type of
Speaker 1: vibes that I may particularly be used to, Like we
Speaker 1: ain't drinking and smoking in the lab and all the
Speaker 1: homies and you know what I'm saying. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you got the choir in there, like people from like
Speaker 1: church and stuff like this. So it's like it was
Speaker 1: kind of different from me too, because I never really
Speaker 1: like worked on like you know what I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess like Christian rap or stuff like that. Like you know,
Speaker 1: my my thing is, I'm grivy. It's all the time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like please never put please
Speaker 1: the sidebar just quick. Don't never put out a Christian
Speaker 1: rap album, please say you know what I'm saying. But no,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like I never I never, I never did,
Speaker 1: So it was kind of just new and stuff to me,
Speaker 1: right And uh so I'm out there and I'm out
Speaker 1: there for like a week, you know what I'm saying, recording,
Speaker 1: going there every day, and I just like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: so when we go to we go one day, I'm
Speaker 1: over there recording. Long story short, I'm over there at
Speaker 1: Ye Studio recording and we go to you know the
Speaker 1: engineer yay w wasn't there. The engineers stopped the beating,
Speaker 1: like yo, I just got a text. Ya wants us
Speaker 1: to come over to Dre's because I think you know
Speaker 1: him and Dre was working on some stuff for the album.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you want us, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all going over there. So we go to dre house,
Speaker 1: going there and shit, I'm just sitting in there and
Speaker 1: it's like it's mad people in a room. Like I'm
Speaker 1: seeing people smoking and draking and shit. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is why I'm This is where I needed to be.
Speaker 1: That's what I've been missing. You feel me like Ship,
Speaker 1: I started rolling my backward up, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And Drake kind of like stepped off from the border.
Speaker 1: Ship turned around, you know what I'm saying, Look like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I remember you because we I met him for the
Speaker 1: first time at the Star unveiling for fifty cent Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys were there, right, So that's when I met
Speaker 1: him and he remembered me from that day. You know
Speaker 1: that's bucketless shit for me all just for Dreda know
Speaker 1: who you are, right, just for Dreda know who I am.
Speaker 1: Like that shit just like different for me. I heard
Speaker 1: the speakers at his house are crazy. This man's studios
Speaker 1: don't real. I couldn't believe what I was saying. I
Speaker 1: heard it so crazy. I heard like his speed, like
Speaker 1: he got the craziest ever saying. Now, but I've heard
Speaker 1: about it. I have a lot. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people who've been over there and they just say,
Speaker 1: oh man, that was the I couldn't believe I was there.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even believe I was there. Bro talk like
Speaker 1: shout out to Dre. Man, he showed love. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying in there? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Uh with Snoop oldest son, a couple of Dre homies
Speaker 1: and shit like that, like it was just love. Like
Speaker 1: you know, we ended up working on some stuff actually, wow,
Speaker 1: you know what I man, Hopefully we'll hear it, hope,
Speaker 1: so hopefully hopefully we always hopefully y' all can work
Speaker 1: more with him. Yeah, Like doctor Dre is like a
Speaker 1: big inspiration, I mean, ship he just put out a
Speaker 1: six pack of records last week off of GTA, which
Speaker 1: was to work with Dre. Yeah. No, Dre learned from
Speaker 1: him and just watch him. Yeah, his creator I heard
Speaker 1: his creative process is like very meticulous, very bro. I
Speaker 1: was watching that ship and I'm just like, bro, now
Speaker 1: I get it, like his ear for like the frequencieson
Speaker 1: it's so crazy bore, like the ship that you see
Speaker 1: and like that maybe in the videos and stuff where
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, now that I'm shooting videos
Speaker 1: and stuff, you know how we might like pretending, yeah,
Speaker 1: you might twist the now He's really he's really like
Speaker 1: like that. He really liked that right, very in the
Speaker 1: every little, the smallest detail, that's what I hear. Genius.
Speaker 1: It's just amazing to watch in the studio that he
Speaker 1: got set up. It's just so ill like I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that I was there, Bro. Creative process wise,
Speaker 1: from what you witness from Dre to being in multiple
Speaker 1: sessions with ya Ya seems more of like a on
Speaker 1: the fly guy, like I've seen him recording everywhere from
Speaker 1: some crazy studios a choirs to like a mic in
Speaker 1: a hotel room, like a lot of like, uh, the
Speaker 1: good the Cruel summer ship was like just in a
Speaker 1: room with you know, so like what what what would
Speaker 1: you say? Like Yay's creative processes that you kind of
Speaker 1: took from that was like a little different. Nah, yay,
Speaker 1: Yay liked that too, Like the same thing I was
Speaker 1: saying about Dre Like every little detail he's you know,
Speaker 1: it's very particular and very thought out. You know, he
Speaker 1: know what he wants, you know, the direction he want.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, like I was fortunate, like my first
Speaker 1: day landing and out there and as soon as I
Speaker 1: get there, go to the ranch, he already in the
Speaker 1: studio and you got you know, we all in there
Speaker 1: and the man made like seven beats in front of
Speaker 1: a front of me and Benny asks, Benny, that's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like just like quick we wanted it. Like it was
Speaker 1: like we was in there all night. It was like
Speaker 1: a couple of hours of that. Like the man made
Speaker 1: seven beats, fast as hell. That's wow. Like I was
Speaker 1: like when I got back to the you know where
Speaker 1: I was staying after we left, like and mind you
Speaker 1: we and his like in his personal space of it
Speaker 1: like it's house or whatever this ship is. This is Wyoming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like this ship is crazy, like watching him the
Speaker 1: whole how you doing? Like he how he like? It's
Speaker 1: just dope. It's just it's just real dope man, to
Speaker 1: be able to say, Yo, I watched Kanye create music
Speaker 1: in the studio doctor Dre create, Like I'm watching Dre
Speaker 1: make fucking a beat in the studio. It's crazy. That's
Speaker 1: real ship. Not a lot of people on earth what
Speaker 1: is dope to see? Like, I feel like quiet as
Speaker 1: kept man. You're probably one of the very few people
Speaker 1: on the play planet that can say Kanye's co sign me.
Speaker 1: I've worked with him, Eminem's co sign me, jay Z's
Speaker 1: co sign me, and we could go down the list.
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Speaker 1: what song was hard that not a lot of people
Speaker 1: are talking about is the record on the Burner album
Speaker 1: Crazy Shout Out wown Man. That's bro. He put a
Speaker 1: lot of people on a song because Mazzi was on
Speaker 1: that right, Mozzi's on that record. It's funny because I like,
Speaker 1: I know Benny and Mozzi were on like a Damian
Speaker 1: Lillard remix together, but I always told Bennie, I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: I just want to hear you and Mozzi like really
Speaker 1: get down on some ship. Like I was like, Man,
Speaker 1: Berner really a and r the fuck out of that record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Berner is too ill with it man. You know, I
Speaker 1: think you know, a lot of that shit get kind
Speaker 1: of overlooked for sure because he's so successful with his
Speaker 1: other endeavors. Yeah, like his music, it's hard. Every tape,
Speaker 1: everything he dropped, man is fucking man shout and a
Speaker 1: good dude me. There's so much love I have to
Speaker 1: I ain't going from a can of paint. And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you go, I want you, want
Speaker 1: to get you on some ship, got me on some ship,
Speaker 1: will push you and then next you know, it's all
Speaker 1: mad and the ship and all and ship play video
Speaker 1: games like that ship. Just ever since then, I've just
Speaker 1: been like, kind of it's forever grateful. You guys are
Speaker 1: like I feel like you, like Griselda. All three of
Speaker 1: y'all and Berner have a similar work ethic when it
Speaker 1: comes to putting out music. Just catalog like burn up
Speaker 1: around to drop four albums in a year. Two of
Speaker 1: them will be collab albums with like Currency or Doll
Speaker 1: God Rest all Soul, you know. But I feel like
Speaker 1: y'all have similar work ethics and just on the independent ship.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times it could be niggas on
Speaker 1: some lazy ship as artists, and then a lot of
Speaker 1: times toos, everybody don't be having a freedom to kind
Speaker 1: of release when they want, especially if they're on the major. Yeah, everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the beauty of being, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of when you can do what you want. Berner can
Speaker 1: do what the fuck you want to do. You drop
Speaker 1: five albums this month if you want. Well, I was
Speaker 1: just telling we just had Benny here last week, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, there's something about the fact Benny
Speaker 1: signed a death Jam and then tend to talk for
Speaker 1: it's still independent on Griselda and Empire, and the fact
Speaker 1: that y'all signed this whole shady fucking deal. Was it
Speaker 1: seven years ago? Six years ago? It's been some years, right,
Speaker 1: it's been a minute, and you guys were able to
Speaker 1: just drop whatever the fuck you want while still being
Speaker 1: on a major, but still technically being on a major
Speaker 1: independently keep all of that and then picking you know, hey,
Speaker 1: look this is a shady album, but everything else is separate.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people got that deal. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: just you know, we ain't really trying to like sign it,
Speaker 1: uh like regular deal. Like if I can't when I'm
Speaker 1: looking at going into Dell's, Like, if I can't at
Speaker 1: least be partners, what are we doing? Right? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think that so like when I'm part know this, when
Speaker 1: I have these partnerships, you know what I'm doing with
Speaker 1: my other entities. Ship, don't got nothing to do it
Speaker 1: this over here? You feeling shit? That's a drum work tape,
Speaker 1: you know what I man, they work out kind of
Speaker 1: kind of good when you just move like that. Like
Speaker 1: I like to be partners, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: on this album? Some great production. Let's go through. Who
Speaker 1: else got beats on the album? I got Alchemists on there?
Speaker 1: Of course, Automatic definitely got to have my brother Dan
Speaker 1: darren S probably produced the most records on it. Only right,
Speaker 1: Justice League. I got some shit with Justice League, justt
Speaker 1: some ship with uh you know Cosmo, Yeah, Cosmo beats.
Speaker 1: He did a lot of burnersh Cosmos burners right hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't know album together last year. Shots. That's my brother.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Berner for connecting that. Cosmos A great
Speaker 1: guy man. Absolutely, I got Bank on there. I have
Speaker 1: hit boy on there. Of course, I want to think
Speaker 1: that's I think that's about it. You getting Beanie on
Speaker 1: the project had I mean, Beanie Tommy is probably like
Speaker 1: top three or four smost slept on rappers ever. When
Speaker 1: we think about just the respect that like, we don't
Speaker 1: talk about Beanie like I think we should. And you know,
Speaker 1: as far as being an all time great, I think
Speaker 1: he's in those conversations and they Uh, that was one
Speaker 1: of the features that I didn't hear when you played
Speaker 1: me the album. So I'm assuming that was something that
Speaker 1: probably happened the last I don't know what twelve months
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, that happened. That happened pretty recently. Beans
Speaker 1: came to Buffalo and you know what I'm saying, Beans
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Yeah, he came to Buffalo and you know,
Speaker 1: kind of getting next to me and ship and like
Speaker 1: you all came to come fuck with you niggas, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, and we asked some some
Speaker 1: very very very dope conversations. Man, you know the stuff
Speaker 1: that you know, he wanted to come to Buffalo and
Speaker 1: just the conversations he wanted to have with me that
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't gonna talk about on camera and shit.
Speaker 1: But he's been through a lot, manop Man, just dope
Speaker 1: that he came to me for that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's different when someone comes to you, especially
Speaker 1: in your hometown. You know what I mean. Man, that's different.
Speaker 1: You could link up with someone in Atlanta or LA
Speaker 1: that's easy. But like someone coming to Buffalo security and
Speaker 1: none of that ship like just some regular shit. Man.
Speaker 1: How long was he in Buffalo? A couple of days? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like a week? Oh? Ship? So he tapped in. How
Speaker 1: he was cooking. We knocked a few ships out. Wow,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like we we we about to
Speaker 1: we we got some something up our sleeve. Way, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, Conway, Beanie project, more more than that, more
Speaker 1: than that. Mm hmmm, Conway, are you bringing Beanie the
Speaker 1: drum work? Well? See it, Beanie s going drum work.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the future. But you know, we've been cooking.
Speaker 1: You know what I would say, I love Beanie. I
Speaker 1: would say to him, Yo, man, you're independent now. He
Speaker 1: really being the goat that he is. He just got
Speaker 1: to run up his his ship now because I feel
Speaker 1: like finally, like you know, he's having a moment right now,
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know I saw him in with Game.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's all I'm telling. I heard some ship. Game
Speaker 1: played me. I want to say, Game played me a
Speaker 1: record that you were on that's unreleased. Yeah, yeah I
Speaker 1: did some ship with Game. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was I was wondering was he keeping that or not?
Speaker 1: But listen, he's got like seventy five songs. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: yeah I did some ship with Game. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, shout out the homie, Game Man, you patched in, Like, Yo, bros,
Speaker 1: let's get one in. Let's do it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, you know, I fuck with everybody man,
Speaker 1: like I just like to cook. Yeah, so it's just
Speaker 1: be dope that niggas that I you know, I listened
Speaker 1: to and when I was on the uprise of this shit,
Speaker 1: you know, wanting to collaborate with me, that should be
Speaker 1: meaning a lot. So when the homie patched then, like yo,
Speaker 1: want to get one in. I'm let when you guys
Speaker 1: first started out and you guys were getting some of
Speaker 1: these features right, like wh where there was like bust
Speaker 1: of rhymes. It's like some of the early like dope,
Speaker 1: bigger features you guys were getting. Did you guys ever
Speaker 1: have to pay for any of those features early on? Never? Never,
Speaker 1: it was always a respect thing. Always it was organic,
Speaker 1: especially for me. I don't even want to work with you,
Speaker 1: no matter how uh talented you may be, none of
Speaker 1: that shit or how lich you is or hot you
Speaker 1: is on radio or none of it. Like, if it's
Speaker 1: not organic, if I never like like we ain't never
Speaker 1: cross paths or at least like even on the internet
Speaker 1: way like you know, damn, Like, if it's not love,
Speaker 1: the gotta just feel organic, like I'm not just I
Speaker 1: don't care about the numbers, like perception and work with
Speaker 1: nobody thinking like, oh, nigga, I get a song with him,
Speaker 1: it's going I'm gonna blow. It's gonna be a hit.
Speaker 1: Like I fuck with niggas that fuck with me. I
Speaker 1: fuck with everybody, But when it comes to being, you know,
Speaker 1: collabing and making music, I fuck with it. Gotta be organic, man,
Speaker 1: real nigga ship like you know what I'm saying, so
Speaker 1: like uh like saying that's big. Listen whatever y'all got coming,
Speaker 1: Like Buster like I said, I'm in a stool bus
Speaker 1: the nigga, I'm hugging buss like bus like nigga, I
Speaker 1: love you king type ship. He took me in like
Speaker 1: as a brother, as a little brother. Ray Kwan and
Speaker 1: them niggas like I've been fucking with Chef, like even
Speaker 1: before he even knew I rapped, like I just was
Speaker 1: around him. He met me in Buffalo and ship for
Speaker 1: the first time. So I'm at a couple of parties
Speaker 1: and just you know, around and every time he would
Speaker 1: be around me, just you know, I'm on my square.
Speaker 1: You feel me. I'm flying. I'm always was a flying nigga,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, having a couple of dollars
Speaker 1: and ship anyway. So but I never really brought up like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I rap, I do music. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know this was this is for any of that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When he finally start hearing, man,
Speaker 1: people like I know I've been around you say nothing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's just everything, It's
Speaker 1: just all organic. Early on before a lot of them
Speaker 1: niggas with suckers, man, they ain't funk with us. Saying,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like collab, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: They ain't want to collab either, like try to like
Speaker 1: charge the niggas astronomical prices, or they just be on
Speaker 1: some sucker. She's like, oh yeah, it's like my math,
Speaker 1: and then you never hear it from him again. They'll reply,
Speaker 1: they don't respond. A lot of fuck niggas like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I feel like that's the
Speaker 1: rap game in the nutshell that you just said, yea,
Speaker 1: it is. It's a lot of people running into each
Speaker 1: others and being like, Yo, let's work that should still
Speaker 1: go on even in like people that's on in the
Speaker 1: industry made this. I got records on on my album
Speaker 1: right now. God, don't make mistakes that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying That I communicated, we kicked and chopped it
Speaker 1: up with the roway and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: gonna say no names, but we do the song and
Speaker 1: then you know they sit the managers and the lawyers
Speaker 1: on you, and then they don't listen. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: you you got a record you didn't they don't want
Speaker 1: to clear it. You got a record that you've played
Speaker 1: me exactly. You know the record exactly. That's that That's
Speaker 1: a real hit record. That is the problem why we
Speaker 1: probably were never gonna hear it is because of some
Speaker 1: of the industry suck street, sucker ship and this is
Speaker 1: a crazy record. This is a record that, like to me,
Speaker 1: is like you could change your life type shit. It's
Speaker 1: like wild to me, Like when I hear something like
Speaker 1: that and I'm like, yo, how the fuck is this
Speaker 1: not getting clear? Because like like imagine if that song
Speaker 1: just never comes out, or that beat never comes out,
Speaker 1: or that hook never comes out, It's like what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's wild. I played you know, I play the game
Speaker 1: wrong kind of you know what I mean. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta switch up your your strategies, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. In some situations, like in that situation,
Speaker 1: I kind of like put it in a you know,
Speaker 1: and and other people's hands to get that get it done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: taken care of when I should have just went and
Speaker 1: just with the shoe box and grabbed the money and
Speaker 1: just handway as mine. I just get reinbursed later. Has
Speaker 1: Drake ever reached out to you? Obviously, Drake and Bennigain,
Speaker 1: that's my niggah. We chop it up, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We chopped it up, and I ran between
Speaker 1: him a couple of times in person and chopped it
Speaker 1: up in the DMS and ship on the gram and
Speaker 1: all that. But we ain't never do no music or
Speaker 1: nothing together. But you know that's my niggas love. Like again,
Speaker 1: like I'm not a nigga that like when I meet
Speaker 1: niggas and I see niggas, Yo, let's do a fucking song. No,
Speaker 1: if it happens, it happens, right, if it's organic, if
Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's all about organic shit. And
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like from the conversations and shit,
Speaker 1: and you know how we greet each other and you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's not nothing that's would be difficult
Speaker 1: to happen. Like if I if it just came into it,
Speaker 1: like yo, let's cook one drizzy like nigga, let's go.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got you saying. Let's
Speaker 1: working with Wayne on this album had to be that
Speaker 1: was one of the features that has been on there
Speaker 1: because I had heard it a couple, you know, a
Speaker 1: while ago. So obviously Wayne is you know peak, Wayne
Speaker 1: is up there with like Peak fifty Peak Snoop as
Speaker 1: far as this most famous, biggest motherfucker's alive, as far
Speaker 1: as like his run was just impeccable. Wayne, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's always super tapped in when it comes to
Speaker 1: like real lyrical shit, even when he was in jail,
Speaker 1: Like he had an interview where he said, as soon
Speaker 1: as he get it get out of Joey wanted to
Speaker 1: work with Tech nine. That was like in twenty ten
Speaker 1: or some shit, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 1: feel like he's always super tapped in, Like how did
Speaker 1: the Wayne shit end up just happening? Honestly? Uh, my
Speaker 1: nigga Too Chains trut out to change man. And I
Speaker 1: never maybe I never at this point, I had never
Speaker 1: even met Too Chains or nothing. I don't even think
Speaker 1: we even did any music together or anything. It's just
Speaker 1: and Wayne told this story like, man, you know, two
Speaker 1: Chains was just hitting me. It was like, Yo, you
Speaker 1: gotta hear this Gizelda shit, you gotta hear this nigga Conway,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying and stuff. So and Wayne
Speaker 1: was just tapped in and that's when he reached out
Speaker 1: and like immediately like yo, I gotta do something with
Speaker 1: them dudes. And that's when he had me and Benny
Speaker 1: on a Roulette album. Uh on a funeral or whatever.
Speaker 1: I think the song is Roulette, but yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: that should happened. It reached out. We did the joint
Speaker 1: swap like I got one for you. He was you know.
Speaker 1: I think I went on his podcast and I remember
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, you know you need anything, man, you
Speaker 1: let me know. Man. As a matter of fact, I
Speaker 1: got one. Yeah, I got one for you right now.
Speaker 1: And he sent that ship back in the day. And
Speaker 1: then we linked up more like it's always love. Like again,
Speaker 1: like I said when I see him, was love. We
Speaker 1: linked up again like in his studio. Miami. Yeah, Miami.
Speaker 1: We cooked up some a bunch of ship and like
Speaker 1: both you guys are sports heads too, just watching Wayne Cook.
Speaker 1: We got some crazy ship. We got a joint where
Speaker 1: we're going back and forth, like you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying in and out. I'm telling you what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with that joint, but
Speaker 1: you and Wayne just going back and forth crazy on
Speaker 1: some some some some kiss style ship. Yeah. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because we always hear Wayne don't write and
Speaker 1: ship right like, it's all shout out mac Maine. Mac
Speaker 1: Maine is a great guy. A lot of that ship
Speaker 1: for me too. That's my brother. Like we talk a
Speaker 1: lot like man, Mac talk all the time. That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Back and forth, yeah, back and forth, some crazy shit.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I hope this ship come out man
Speaker 1: Carter six or something cooking. I'm just watching them and
Speaker 1: and cook. I was in there, that's the crazy shit.
Speaker 1: I was there. I left Wayne and went to the
Speaker 1: ranch with Yeah, just bucking this ship, bro, ship got
Speaker 1: some real ship. Hey, we gotta stuff the podcast man
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Speaker 1: I will say this man, like I do feel like
Speaker 1: we you know, we were talking about giving flowers earlier.
Speaker 1: I do feel like it has to be said, like
Speaker 1: you are probably the best. Like when we think of
Speaker 1: eras of hip hop, and we think of like who
Speaker 1: we grew up listening to and who was the best
Speaker 1: when we were growing up, whether it was Nas, whether
Speaker 1: it was Kiss, whether it was Hove, Big al whatever,
Speaker 1: you're that guy right now, so like are like I
Speaker 1: think in fifteen years, we're gonna look back and be like, man,
Speaker 1: we was. Do you remember the Conway Griselda Era. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's dope, That's that's man. You know, And I know
Speaker 1: how important that shit is to you because because you know,
Speaker 1: I was talking to Benny, and like Benny's like very
Speaker 1: kind of on the opposite end of the spectrum because
Speaker 1: I know you give a fuck as far as like
Speaker 1: you're going for that number one spot because it matters
Speaker 1: to you. Benny's kind of nonchalant about it. He's like, look,
Speaker 1: people are gonna give me say what they're gonna say,
Speaker 1: or they're not gonna say with it. I know how
Speaker 1: important that is to you to make sure motherfuckers really
Speaker 1: put that on your name. Like I feel about this ship.
Speaker 1: Any want to be the best. That's why I'm motherfucking
Speaker 1: on sleep. And it's just NonStop. He is NonStop for sure,
Speaker 1: Like he all over the place everywhere, Like Benny, I
Speaker 1: know you guys did this and we talked about this
Speaker 1: in the interview that him and I did. To just
Speaker 1: drop music right now, Tan to talk four coming out,
Speaker 1: I think March eleventh, you guys have a song called
Speaker 1: Tyson Versa Ali that everyone will hear. That's I thought
Speaker 1: an important record because I kind of feel like when
Speaker 1: it comes to just like the Griselda fans and the
Speaker 1: there's like a Griselda Reddit thread and like there's like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's just this little world of like hardcore
Speaker 1: Griselda fans, and I feel like you guys kind of
Speaker 1: like put a lot of that, like some of the
Speaker 1: dumb narratives that people create that is not non existing
Speaker 1: kind of to sleep on that record in terms of
Speaker 1: just being like, yo, like we're family. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day. If you're doing good, I'm doing Like
Speaker 1: we're happy for each other. Yeah, And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, that's really what it is, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like you know, you know, people tend
Speaker 1: to love like, I don't know, like a story like
Speaker 1: a they love a storyline like it's the wrestling ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: People want to be like, yo, what's that all that ship? Man?
Speaker 1: You feel me like, we it's just it's just crazy
Speaker 1: because all of our lives and our careers is taking
Speaker 1: off and just at a trajectory that we didn't even plan.
Speaker 1: I don't think you know what I'm saying. Like Benny
Speaker 1: on top of the fucking world right now, you feel me.
Speaker 1: He's doing a million things, doing his own ship west side,
Speaker 1: the same way on the top of the world, doing
Speaker 1: a million ship over here with it. I'm doing a
Speaker 1: bunch of shit, you know what I'm saying. We all
Speaker 1: just be coming, you know, we're growing. This is this
Speaker 1: I mean, look at best case scenario. This should have
Speaker 1: been the playing the whole time, right Yeah. Yeah, It's
Speaker 1: like like, man, this is the best case scenario. Is
Speaker 1: what's happening? Yeah? Man, you know absolutely, But now that
Speaker 1: record is crazy. That ship Tyson versus Ali, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you're Ali. Are we saying you're Ali
Speaker 1: in this in the Tyson verse? Ali? I guess? So
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Shot shout out to Tanna
Speaker 1: talk for though. Uh man, you guys are gonna have
Speaker 1: a crazy, like three or four weeks as a crew
Speaker 1: because between your ship and his ship. Man, it's good.
Speaker 1: It's gonna start feeling like twenty twenty and this motherfucker
Speaker 1: all over again. Time, man, take over. Talk to me
Speaker 1: about drum work. You know, Jay just played some Crazy
Speaker 1: Records Crazy. I know how much of like a hip
Speaker 1: hop historian you are, And I kind of felt like
Speaker 1: last year's project to me felt a little kind of
Speaker 1: like Jay's Dynasty album in terms of like a great
Speaker 1: way for you to introduce your roster in the form
Speaker 1: of a Conway album. Will there be like an official
Speaker 1: drum work project coming? Yeah, Yeah, we're doing, We're gonna,
Speaker 1: We're gonna probably you know what I'm saying, fuck them
Speaker 1: up with a compilation. We got about we got a
Speaker 1: lot of songs done. We got some songs done for
Speaker 1: that ship already. You know, It's just I've been having
Speaker 1: so much shit going on right it kind of got
Speaker 1: put on pause with uh, you know, everything that's been
Speaker 1: happening for me, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: damn X album stuff, being on that and the BT Awards.
Speaker 1: The tour happened like right after that. Yeah, the tour
Speaker 1: was lit. Now I'm an album circuit for my ship
Speaker 1: for God to make my stores and I'm going on
Speaker 1: the world tour stuff. So it's like kind of like,
Speaker 1: are you excited for the world to our? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't never been overseas man. Yeah, it's different. Over there.
Speaker 1: I've only been to a couple of cities. Well since
Speaker 1: I well, now that I've been touring, I've been to
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of shit. I've been on tours,
Speaker 1: like my first time going, were you able like like obviously,
Speaker 1: were you ever ever able to go to Canada? Because
Speaker 1: it's tough to get into Canada if you have certain charges.
Speaker 1: You know, before you know, nine to eleven, it was easy.
Speaker 1: You could just go over there and even look, you
Speaker 1: look at your idea and they just roll your wonder
Speaker 1: not where you're from us and we're going We're going
Speaker 1: to the mall switched up. Though now now it's it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough. Could you even do shows over there? I
Speaker 1: got shows booked over there for the tour, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I got like a whole Canada, like Montreal.
Speaker 1: It's just a I heard a week. I know certain
Speaker 1: people like that. Man, I'd love to go to Canada.
Speaker 1: I just can't. They want to be in the country
Speaker 1: type ship. It's weird, but it's definitely strange when after
Speaker 1: this project comes out, you got the world tour. We
Speaker 1: know how active you are. We might fuck around and
Speaker 1: get four fucking albums this year from you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it definitely is. Well. I would say, what's the playing
Speaker 1: the rest of the year? Man? Then Alchemists cooking back
Speaker 1: up again okay, and Chase is doing a nice little
Speaker 1: ep for the streets. I'm doing something my nigga, Lord
Speaker 1: Flee shout out to Flee. Uh stood me up when
Speaker 1: he was in La was supposed to be on the show.
Speaker 1: You didn't come doing one more little installment of the
Speaker 1: Big Ghost trilogy. We got to figure out how Big
Speaker 1: Ghost is. We do we big ghosts? Bro? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: gotta get we gotta get hit on the fun. He's
Speaker 1: just a mystery at this point. And I'm doing like
Speaker 1: I'm doing some some some business with Empire too for
Speaker 1: the next album. So let me ask you this, like,
Speaker 1: would there ever be a point in time not to
Speaker 1: be in the Griselda business? But were you like, obviously
Speaker 1: it's always Griselda, But were you like leave the label
Speaker 1: as far as like tractually or do you kind of
Speaker 1: feel like you're always kind of be I'm contractually done now,
Speaker 1: So any music moving forward is going to be drum work. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: drum work I mean as of right now. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: sitting right here right now, like I'm not on a
Speaker 1: contract with Griselda Shady none of that ship no more.
Speaker 1: I mean ship. Is this the first time in your
Speaker 1: career that it's free agency right now? You heard with
Speaker 1: that being said, and we all need that man, I
Speaker 1: need that super Max, Man, I need the yan Yana's bag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and even if that doesn't happen, it's still you know,
Speaker 1: Griselda is still family. Gun is still family. Of course.
Speaker 1: That's that's for life. You know what I'm saying, man
Speaker 1: and me and Broke. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: put that ship on my back, man, West took that
Speaker 1: we've been No. I mean, the the analogy you had
Speaker 1: about doing the construction and all that is very uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's some real ship. Are you guys trying to you know,
Speaker 1: do the you know, do the extension or you just
Speaker 1: kind of we haven't really talked about that. Who knows,
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure you know what I mean. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: all of our intentions, you know what I'm saying in
Speaker 1: the perfect worldly minds, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's right now, like it's the end,
Speaker 1: Like you know, the paperwork I signed was it's been fulfilled.
Speaker 1: It's been fulfilled as well as with it was all
Speaker 1: in together like my Shady paperwork and Griselda paperwork. Everything
Speaker 1: has been forfilled and it's been fulfilled. And now it's
Speaker 1: time to sit back at the round table and figure
Speaker 1: out the future. What it got in store for me?
Speaker 1: And you know or just get or you know. Ghazi
Speaker 1: will just give you that that drum work situation at
Speaker 1: Empire and then and now you are, you got your
Speaker 1: own man, you got just take the flight to San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Figured it out, Ghazi and Nima and hey man, old
Speaker 1: Ghazi gonna take good care of you. I want to
Speaker 1: think about Old Ghazi one hundred per one hundred percent. Damn,
Speaker 1: how much of the Alchemist project do you have finished?
Speaker 1: We don't even start yet, you haven't. But it's in
Speaker 1: the plan to do the sequel. Yeah, he on tour
Speaker 1: right now now, I'm doing this ship, so he ain't
Speaker 1: really had time for us to sit down together and
Speaker 1: like calling through some beats or like family center batch
Speaker 1: or shit or whatever. But it's definitely coming. Lulu too,
Speaker 1: I don't know who my name that ship, Lulu too.
Speaker 1: I think you give you a new name. I think
Speaker 1: you have a new name, you know, I think I
Speaker 1: still got more at that story of paint okay, but
Speaker 1: who knows. It's not been named yet, and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but it's definitely happening and coming out
Speaker 1: in the very near future this year, like very very
Speaker 1: So that's the next shit I'm working on. And then
Speaker 1: hopefully we figure out what this Beanie Seagull mystery shit
Speaker 1: is that you just that you just laid on us.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, listen, many just signing to trying
Speaker 1: to think about for the for the people watching speculate, Hey,
Speaker 1: if uh someone who's not affiliated with you currently, right,
Speaker 1: taking out the Griselda roster, the drumwork roster, who would
Speaker 1: be an artist if you could pick, and and let's
Speaker 1: even take out like jay Z and Nas and Lil Wayne,
Speaker 1: all these obvious answers, who's an artist that you could
Speaker 1: that you if you could pick, to do a whole
Speaker 1: album with. You know what I'm saying, that you think
Speaker 1: could just hang with you with the bars that you
Speaker 1: think would just be dope like semi mainstream, you know,
Speaker 1: but like obviously you could be like I want to
Speaker 1: do an album with Drake or jay Z And that's
Speaker 1: like low hanging fruit, Like, give me, give me a
Speaker 1: name signed out to the fire? Who? Like who I
Speaker 1: would love to just who you think would be hard?
Speaker 1: Who you think the fans would appreciate too? That's a
Speaker 1: great question. Uh why? Oh that's a great question, man,
Speaker 1: That's a great fucking question. Man. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: really don't know who I can think you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, probably like who would I want to
Speaker 1: do take with? Like that'll be crazy, man, I have
Speaker 1: no idea, bro, something that might be random. Maybe Russ
Speaker 1: Kiss or Styles would be hard. Yeah, low key Lemonade
Speaker 1: was such a moment. You a method man, A little
Speaker 1: six piece with meth might be crazy. That will be insane.
Speaker 1: And me and Russ me in locks? Yeah, probably probably
Speaker 1: mean math. How about this you and Mazi a fuck?
Speaker 1: That would be crazy? I feel like on the just
Speaker 1: on talking about the pain and the relatability and the bars.
Speaker 1: Mazi is him on this side. And congrats to Mazi
Speaker 1: who just signed with CMG. Yeah that's fire. I saw
Speaker 1: that he got a nice situation too, so shout out
Speaker 1: to MASI sweet situation. All right, So this album, man,
Speaker 1: it's out bubble for ship. This probably will come out
Speaker 1: right before the album drops. Albums out the twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth, twenty fifth, make mistakes. How much input
Speaker 1: did M have on this project? If any? No? None?
Speaker 1: You just sending the album. This is it him and
Speaker 1: you know what about feedback? Wise did he get does
Speaker 1: he give your feedback? Yeah? But it was I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep it on it. I Uh. I went to Detroit
Speaker 1: and it was in you know, in the studio and
Speaker 1: Paul Royce and blame them the album front and back
Speaker 1: and he fucked with every record. I was like, this shit,
Speaker 1: this is ready to go. And that's when like he
Speaker 1: he jumped on a bang and fifty got on the
Speaker 1: city on the map joint like that. Even though we
Speaker 1: lost those records, but that's what I'm saying. I played
Speaker 1: them in the tape. It was like I didn't have
Speaker 1: it wasn't that was the critique, Like, Yo, this ship
Speaker 1: is fucking amazing, this is ready, this is ready. Do
Speaker 1: you even like have anyone who's critique you like or
Speaker 1: like like who even has the power to tell you like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this one ain't in take it off like or you
Speaker 1: give you give a fuck? Like if whether it's gone
Speaker 1: or Am or somebody everybody. If I respect them and
Speaker 1: they like a pair of my craft, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They give you input you're open to up right.
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm a pilot and I fly planes
Speaker 1: for a living, like somebody that just took a flight
Speaker 1: here and there can't tell me how I should have
Speaker 1: landed the flight, you know what I'm saying. But like
Speaker 1: it's another pilot that flies to and been flying longer
Speaker 1: than me or whatever, like I take I ain't one
Speaker 1: of those type of dudes. I'm opening criticism, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, likes to be like, yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: think you could have said that last line a little harder,
Speaker 1: little little iller that you could have ended that better.
Speaker 1: I could have You know, we we've done that. And Benny,
Speaker 1: when we cook and stuff together, you know, maybe tell
Speaker 1: each other like, nah, bro, say that little say that
Speaker 1: last part a little better. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Oh why are you talking about that last line? I
Speaker 1: got you? You know what I'm saying, was that West?
Speaker 1: Tell me? Like tell me you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know that versus a Just just see I love
Speaker 1: this impersonation oh you go a little crazier. Hey, were
Speaker 1: you at the Chiefs game? Which one? The one? I
Speaker 1: mean the one? No, I didn't go to that one,
Speaker 1: you know what. I was saving my energy for the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I ain't going to that because the Bengals
Speaker 1: had already handled their business. So I knew once we
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, we had us another home game and
Speaker 1: the playoff super Bowl and then the super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I will go to that game. Yeah when
Speaker 1: that confetti fall, so I can, you know, get on
Speaker 1: the parade flow like Kevin Hart and all that shit.
Speaker 1: You feel what? Unfortunately, you know what I'm saying. How
Speaker 1: was you know? I can't imagine the emotional roller coaster
Speaker 1: that that game was to be a Bills fan because
Speaker 1: that ship as a as just a football fan, I
Speaker 1: was on the that was probably the best game I've
Speaker 1: ever watched, ever watched, Like I think Texas versus USC
Speaker 1: when it was Vince Young and Matt Lioner was one
Speaker 1: of them. You know what I'm saying. But NFL wise,
Speaker 1: I can't think of a better game game man, perfect quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: perfect ratings. Both had perfect games like for Patrick two
Speaker 1: weeks to row perfect games, but job man, was I mean,
Speaker 1: if not Patrick for Josh, for Josh, yeah for sure,
Speaker 1: But for me personally, that kind of stung worse than
Speaker 1: I was losing them Super Bowls man. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: were probably a lot younger at the time. I was guted.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie like you know, you know, watch
Speaker 1: Josh March just down there score a two point version
Speaker 1: thirty nine, thirty six. We you know, thirteen seconds left.
Speaker 1: The coach and Josh they hugging, and it's just I'm
Speaker 1: in my house. I remember what like me and everybody
Speaker 1: in my house just running back and forth, going crazy
Speaker 1: and too much time. I know it was. I know
Speaker 1: we was in trouble. When they kicked the touchback and
Speaker 1: they didn't just like let some of the less some
Speaker 1: of the clock. I'm like, do the squire kick right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you take three four seconds off that clock.
Speaker 1: It matters easily. So I'm like, wait a minute. And
Speaker 1: then saw the defense like the whole middle of the
Speaker 1: field and they got time out was left. I'm like,
Speaker 1: scratch whitehead and that first first down I'm like, this
Speaker 1: shit ain't over. And at least y'all got Josh Allen
Speaker 1: for the rest of the fucking for the rest of
Speaker 1: his career. He ain't going nowhere. Yeah, man, y'all got one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got one. Man. I think Josh guy has to
Speaker 1: be of course, outside of like the Brady's and the Errands,
Speaker 1: I think I will take Josh Allen before any of
Speaker 1: them niggas. I might agree with you. Give me Josh
Speaker 1: Allen because you know what you got. You got the
Speaker 1: threat of that run. Yeah, you got the heart. He's like,
Speaker 1: who I wish Kyler Murray? Like, he's like who I
Speaker 1: think Kyler Murray actually is? But Josh Allen is really him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is Kyler Murray's five feet to Jackson? I love you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Patrick Mahomes, I love Burrow, Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Fucking family annoys me. I can't deal with what's the
Speaker 1: homie hout here? Stafford. Herbert's a beast. I love Herbert
Speaker 1: and it's my time to pick. And I know what
Speaker 1: I know why watching the why what I've seen so
Speaker 1: far in their careers. Me, Josh, that's five to sixty
Speaker 1: two seventy whatever it is, running and throwing like the
Speaker 1: rocket iron with that heart and that dog getting like that.
Speaker 1: Give me that one that's some real shit. Hey, you're
Speaker 1: I think why people love you so much, man, is
Speaker 1: because you are extremely transparent, You're extremely honest, You're extremely
Speaker 1: vulnerable when you rap and when it comes to just
Speaker 1: like everyday ship that everyone deals with that most rappers
Speaker 1: are too cool to even talk about, whether it's being
Speaker 1: depressed sometimes, whether it's being down at just down and out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That ship is something that
Speaker 1: I think the big reason why a lot of people
Speaker 1: relate to your ship for people who are going through
Speaker 1: some shiit because it happens normal people. A lot of
Speaker 1: your fans go through shit, man, Like when you're in
Speaker 1: those spaces mentally, Like, what is some advice you could
Speaker 1: give to people to try to get through it, man?
Speaker 1: Because I know you've been in some dark places. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, talk to somebody, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's it's better to talk to somebody,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was one of the
Speaker 1: type of people that kind of like just keep ship
Speaker 1: bottled in kind of you know, compartmentalize and keep that
Speaker 1: ship like I'm good. You know what I'm saying. Yo,
Speaker 1: Shit's good, bro, You good like yeah, I'm good. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like it's better to just
Speaker 1: have you somebody that you you fuck with, whether it's
Speaker 1: like your girl or your your you know, your mom,
Speaker 1: or your uncle, one of your homeboys, or somebody that
Speaker 1: you know you trust, you trust that you know that
Speaker 1: give a fuck about you unconditionally. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I got love for you, regardless of what
Speaker 1: you're going through. I'm gonna be here to support whatever decision.
Speaker 1: And you know, as long as it ain't like bad
Speaker 1: yo's negative ship, but like I'm here for you. You
Speaker 1: got that. You know, we all got that one person
Speaker 1: that you know, we always can get count on to
Speaker 1: give us the ear and we feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: talk to that person, hit that person up and just talk.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like I felt so much
Speaker 1: relief when I talk to somebody for some reason, and
Speaker 1: my whole life I was just was the total opposite.
Speaker 1: Like I don't I bottle up, I don't talk. I
Speaker 1: just like and then just like it's festers good. It's
Speaker 1: like that ain't good you start dealing with it in
Speaker 1: bad ways, you know what I'm saying. So like now
Speaker 1: I have people. You know what I'm saying. I have
Speaker 1: people like that I could, you know, just like even today,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna give you example,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna keep it a buck. Like I was
Speaker 1: kind of like frustrated and shit about some ship that
Speaker 1: kind of fucked with me, me out my zone, like
Speaker 1: you know, me out my good energy, my good space,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, fuck everything, I ain't doing metafit IMB,
Speaker 1: I booked my flight. I'm going home. I ain't doing
Speaker 1: none of the interviews, none of that ship is over.
Speaker 1: Fuck that, you know. I just gotta tell you know
Speaker 1: my old I just caught myself and I just like
Speaker 1: wrote me up one and I called that person who
Speaker 1: I was just talking about that you gotta have. I
Speaker 1: called that person who's that for me and just talk
Speaker 1: to them about like she gotta be mad as hell.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm tired of like, no, you need you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and you go from there. You
Speaker 1: don't have to just do what you know, you make
Speaker 1: your own decision. At least you have someone that I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna give you what I think. Now you listen
Speaker 1: or you do it or whatever. That's on you, but
Speaker 1: I don't think you should do that. That's not good,
Speaker 1: like important to have that person out when you're doing
Speaker 1: all this and that, like you say yourself back. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's important. You know, me and
Speaker 1: you are both degenerous sports gamblers. Sports gambling is so
Speaker 1: much fun. I love it, but I also hated I
Speaker 1: hate it, but I love it. You've posted some amazing tickets.
Speaker 1: You've had some fucking hints, especially when you started. You
Speaker 1: were hitting some of those alternate lines where you were
Speaker 1: between thirteen and sevente eight shit like that. You was
Speaker 1: on a run. But we don't see the losses. I
Speaker 1: had a really bad year last year. Bounce back, finally,
Speaker 1: take me through the worst time as a sports gambler
Speaker 1: you've been through, like just whether it was just because
Speaker 1: when you take a big loss, there is no feeling
Speaker 1: like that in the world. It sucks. Yes, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna like. The only thing that's worse than if I
Speaker 1: like that big and I lose is if like, for example, recently,
Speaker 1: this shit happened, I lost literally by like a half
Speaker 1: a point, Like that's the worst, Like was it to parlay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it was like a six, pick, parlay everything, and
Speaker 1: I would have won like double digit thousands of dollars.
Speaker 1: And fucking for me, it was Mike White from the
Speaker 1: fucking chest. It was uh, it was that fucked me
Speaker 1: into But it was the Bucks. I had Giannis playing
Speaker 1: special forty four and a half. He had forty four
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. It was that rebounds and points
Speaker 1: was winning by thirty, right and it was winning by thirty.
Speaker 1: So he took him and played the old four. Just
Speaker 1: needed a alf a fucking one, get a rebound, get something.
Speaker 1: I was I was like, yo, that's the worst. You're like, yo,
Speaker 1: Hopefully this team goes on a run. And they got
Speaker 1: to put him back in. I've been there, I've been there.
Speaker 1: I had, uh the Bills go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I put a ticket in eight grand would have played
Speaker 1: me seventy two thousand. I did it at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season, and that was close because if y'all
Speaker 1: would have got through that game, no way. The Bengals
Speaker 1: are survival. Man, what will look like kittens? If someone
Speaker 1: had to give you, let's say you had to put
Speaker 1: you had to throw ten grand down on a future
Speaker 1: for the NBA Championship, Who's making the finals right now,
Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna say, I gotta give it to Ukta.
Speaker 1: I gotta say Phoenix. I want to say Golden State.
Speaker 1: Man they not. I haven't seen finals yet, but you know,
Speaker 1: motherfuckers could get warm every That's my mom. I think,
Speaker 1: I think. I think Clay is not the same guy
Speaker 1: defensively anymore, which I think is a problem. I think
Speaker 1: that's the problem is defensively Clay is not who he
Speaker 1: was three years ago. So who's gonna guard Devin Booker
Speaker 1: and Chris Paul in the Western Conference finals. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be Clay and Steph Wiggans know they're gonna throw
Speaker 1: Gary Payton in there. You know what I'm saying. But yeah,
Speaker 1: then you got Then you leave mckil bridges open in
Speaker 1: the corner. Jay Crowder, gam Johnson, thank you all right?
Speaker 1: What about the East? What about the East? So you
Speaker 1: like the trade? I love the trade. I think Brooklyn
Speaker 1: should fuck around and try to get the seven seed
Speaker 1: or eight seed so they have more games Kyrie can
Speaker 1: play in in the playoffs, because if they got home
Speaker 1: court advantage, he can only play in a certain he
Speaker 1: can only play in three of the games. If it's
Speaker 1: a seven game series because if they play at home,
Speaker 1: he can't play. You'd almost rather go play away the
Speaker 1: whole fucking playoffs, so Kyrie can play. As long as
Speaker 1: we got old number seven. Man, Katie's a killer. We fine.
Speaker 1: Did you see the Did you see the draft with
Speaker 1: him and Lebron? The All Star drafts? Broy Lebron Purposely,
Speaker 1: they purposely left hard and out there this is the
Speaker 1: day of the trade. Purposely did no one took heart
Speaker 1: at And Charles Barkley and Shack are roasting the ship
Speaker 1: the whole time. Katie's just sitting there with a straight face,
Speaker 1: annoyed as fuck. And it comes down to Rudy Gobert
Speaker 1: and James Harden and Charles Barkley is like, let me
Speaker 1: guess KD. You need some size right now. I gotta
Speaker 1: check that. Yeah, it's crazy. We'll listen to the album. Man,
Speaker 1: go run that ship up. It's gonna be a big
Speaker 1: year for drum More. It's gonna be a big year
Speaker 1: for you looking forward to what everything you got going on? Man,
Speaker 1: do you have I know the weed Ship? Are you
Speaker 1: still doing the weed Ship? Yeah? I'm still sucking a
Speaker 1: little used to got the strain that I mean because
Speaker 1: now the New York ship's legal. So yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of you know, I got more in store for that,
Speaker 1: you know what it's saying. I got a lot of
Speaker 1: ship going on for this. What is the next you
Speaker 1: know year? And the merchant is always booming. Yeah, merch
Speaker 1: is going crazy. The merchant is going Do you have
Speaker 1: a special drop coming for the album? Yes? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got some sneakers on the way. I got sneakers, some
Speaker 1: Air Force ones. We just got ship going on custom
Speaker 1: Air Forces. I got some ship going on. Okay, well
Speaker 1: there it is. Man, the machine, the machine. How many?
Speaker 1: How many times have we done this? We've done this
Speaker 1: a lot. Now you already know. Hey, I will say this.
Speaker 1: I was in Buffalo and I actually got to go.
Speaker 1: We went went to the east side of Buffalo, went
Speaker 1: to the street you grew up on your family's house.
Speaker 1: Across the street was where the house used to be
Speaker 1: that you used to trap out of it. But it
Speaker 1: was an empty field. I think now, man, I would
Speaker 1: just say this, Man, the hospitality showed me out there
Speaker 1: was amazing. And I never I always say this, I've
Speaker 1: never seen I've been there everywhere, right, I've been there Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I've been to Florida, been everywhere. I've never seen somebody
Speaker 1: really run their city like y'all got Buffalo. Wherever we went,
Speaker 1: we saw the hoodies, the hats, the chains, the bill boards,
Speaker 1: like everywhere everywhere you look, it's you ben your gun
Speaker 1: in some capacity, and it's truly like a wild thing. Man.
Speaker 1: And anybody who's never been to Buffalo, Yo, go chet
Speaker 1: just go check, go check, go tap boff. Just don't
Speaker 1: go to the New Era store thinking it's gonna be
Speaker 1: some heat because that ship was weak. I thank god.
Speaker 1: We were so excited when we found out New Era
Speaker 1: started in Buffalo and our hotel was across the street
Speaker 1: from the store. We walked in that bitch like we
Speaker 1: about to come up on some heat. It was not
Speaker 1: it anyway. Conway, the machine boom