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I'm one hundred percent ready. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.120 I'm telling you I'm ready. 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.280 And Ron Woolfley, it doesn't get any better than that. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:03.680 Leash the fire, you know what, Start the clock because 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:08.160 it's t minus twenty four hours in counting until maybe 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.160 the key to your season, the key to your organization, 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:16.360 the most important day that's not a game day, and 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.080 we are so loaded with information around here. Honestly, we're 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.160 in the trust tree. I'm not sure we even need 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.000 our two esteem co hosts here tonight, because I am 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.280 armed with more than enough reports and rumors and speculation 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.680 and education and innocuous and in your window. I mean, 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.560 we don't need any of that, but it is tradition, right. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.119 We have the voice of the Cardinals joining us here 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.720 twas the night before the NFL Draft. Here on the 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.880 Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.920 are santan Ford, Paul Calvec joined by Ron Wolfley and 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:49.880 Dave Pash. 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.360 Well, it's definitely one of the two that you don't 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.360 need here. Well, God, take that head set off. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.640 Wait a minute, what are you talking about, David. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:01:59.160 You're over there texting. 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.800 You're over there like having these conversations on these text 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:03.960 chains with your buddies. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:04.320 You know what. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.040 Paul and I are over here preparing for the show. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.800 You know what to right now, though, honestly, there's so 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.400 much information that is out there right, all of this 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.200 information right now, Paul. I know, Paul, I know how 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.760 you get right. This really bounds you up, Paul, that 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.239 tightens you up right now and you just want to 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.320 mentally flush. I understand Paul, that that is what is 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.400 going on. Right now. But this is it, This is 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.000 here we are, guys. We are on the eve of 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:35.840 the NFL Draft. Man, what an awesome, awesome situation that is. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:37.840 I think was the old Mad Max movies they used 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.360 to say, welcome to Thunderdome, Welcome to the pivot point 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.080 of the NFL Draft. Pick number four, the Arizona Cardinals. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.440 And if we refer to State Farm Stadium as the nest, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.440 you can refer to the Cardinals war room as the 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.880 catbird seed, can you not? Nobody really knows what the 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.600 Cardinals are going to do. Will they stick and pick 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:59.919 or will they as I like to call it, Trey 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:05.040 and Cavalcade. I mean, the possibilities are endless out there. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.480 And you know what's silly season When two months ago 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.480 we had a CBS mock draft they had the Cardinals 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.240 at number twenty seven taking bow Nicks. And just to 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.200 make sure it's come full circle, there was a Sports 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.960 Illustrated mock draft out today that as the Cardinals trading 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.079 out of twenty seven down to thirty two and taking 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.800 Michael Pennox Junior. So, I mean, we've seen and heard 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:30.000 anything and everything, but Dave, listen to Daniel Jeremiah. Okay, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.640 here he is just about the magnitude of the moment. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.839 When you have eleven picks through seven rounds. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.960 This is a set your franchise up situation here for 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.840 the Arizona Cardinals. The Houston Texans did it last year. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:44.520 If you go back and look at a lot of 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.440 the Super Bowl teams, you can identify the one or 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.560 two year period where their draft set that run up. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.120 Seattle's one that comes right to mind. You know what 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.120 they did over a couple of years. So this is 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.680 their moment here. So they need to you know, they 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.440 need to get some guys who really make it difference 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:01.040 for him. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.560 That's Daniel Jeremiah. That was a conference call with the 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.520 media the last and more than two hours. So it 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.440 just goes and proves the sort of insatiable appetite for 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:08.760 all this. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.560 You know, first of all, let me just say this, 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.560 what is it, Paully. It's six picks in the top 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.760 ninety correct or seven four in the top one oh four, Paul, 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.000 And we all know the top one oh four matters, 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:25.800 do we not? We all know one oh four matters? 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.279 Oh boy four. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.080 Or late to a former fourth rounder nineteen eighty five. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.800 You've got to throw in nineteen eighty five pick number 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.120 one oh four, Polly, So I think you forget about 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.480 the six and ninety. You've got to go with seven 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.279 in one oh four because that's where you get you 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:44.279 get a difference maker. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:44.520 Pall. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.040 First of all, ninety five percent of our listeners weren't 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:52.080 born in nineteen eighty five. But I agree with with Daniel, 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.840 and I think it's very fair to compare it to 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.800 what Houston did. And look, the difference is Houston needed 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.240 a quarterback. The card don't. The Cardinals have their quarterback. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.839 So the blessing is you don't have to take a 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.120 quarterback at four. You can use that pick to either 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.760 get somebody to help Kyler Murray as a receiver or 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.000 an offensive lineman, or help your defense, or trade it. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.520 What do you think, Wolf, You got a gut feel, 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.200 You got a gut feel for this one, Cary. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.680 Do you know this is just my feeling on this one, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.520 Pully again, and we've been back and forth on this 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.560 as well. You know you know how much I early 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.760 on loved Marvin Harrison junior. Oh my goodness, I was 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.880 in the danger zone on Marvin Harrison Junior and I 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.280 think I'm still there. If we get anybody but Marvin 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.919 Harrison Junior at number four, I'm gonna be in the 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.040 danger zone. And yet I'm gonna trust Manti Austin Ford 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.560 because he knows what he's doing and he loves football players. Okay, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:54.120 he's gonna draft a football player at number four. Okay, 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.080 not a guy that is gonna check every box at 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.640 the combine, but a guy that is gonna check every 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.159 box in between the white lines. I have full confidence 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.640 in that. But I'd love to see Marvin Harrison Junior 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:05.960 get it. 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.560 I think it comes down to this, doesn't it. If 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.200 you think there's one guy who is better than the 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.760 old If you're looking at receiver and you think, okay 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:19.560 that the three receivers are the next best players after 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.160 the three quarterbacks, and you feel like one of those guys, 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:27.640 let's say Marvin Harrison is significantly better than those two. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.560 It's somebody you can't pass up, like a Jamar Chase 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.480 who could change your team. Then you got to make 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.760 that pick. And I imagine that MANI will look at 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.159 it that way. But if on their board and we 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.640 don't know this on their board, it's close, or maybe 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:46.400 they have somebody ahead of Marvin Harrison, then it's easier 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.800 to be able to say, okay, well let's move out 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.960 of there. And then it comes down to, well how 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.760 far do we want to move out, because you don't 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.280 want to just move out just to draft, you know, 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.839 get capital and then miss out on a great player. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.960 That's the thing he I don't think MANI is going 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:06.800 to trade just to get another pick, because I have 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.880 to imagine when they moved last year out of three, 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.000 the players that were there at three, they thought were 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.560 on par with Paris Johnson. That's why they did what 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.240 they did. So if they think Marvin Harrison is that 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.840 much better than everybody else over the next four to 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.000 six picks, I think they'll take Marvin Harrison. If they don't, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.920 if it's close, or if they have somebody graded ahead 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.440 of Marvin Harrison, then I think they trade out. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.280 What if I told you that Marvin Harrison Junior met 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.920 with two teams and only two teams on his thirty 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:40.080 visits leading up to the draft Thursday night, that he 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.239 met with the Bears and the Arizona Cardinals. That's according 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.760 to Matt Miller ESPN NFL Draft Scott Wolf the two 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.720 of us have interviewed Matt Miller. You've talked to him 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.360 multiple times. He adds in today's report that sources around 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.640 the NFL also say that Marvin Harrison Junior has an 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.880 assurance from the Cardinals that he will be the pick 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:59.000 if available. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.080 Four waw okay. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.800 Let that hang in the air for a minute as 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.200 we go back to the combine. And here's what Matt 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.080 Miller had to say just about the Cardinals and the 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.000 impact they could have up and down this draft. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:13.840 When I look at how many selections you have in 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.760 the top one hundred, that's how you can control the draft. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:18.800 What if there's a trade out scenario like last year, 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.640 You know what if there's a situation where you're willing 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.240 to fall in love with the elite neighbors or a 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.960 Roma Dunza or maybe someone who's not in even in 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.560 that conversation inside back a couple of picks. So I 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.600 think Arizona's in a really fascinating spot, much like last year, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.679 where you can make a decision that really changes the 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:37.920 outcome of the first round. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.040 I had Ohio State's bowl game and now Marvin Harrison 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.360 Junior didn't play, But in talking with all the coaches, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.760 people close to the program, other players. 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:49.520 To a man, they. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:54.040 Raved about Marvin Harrison's character, the type of person he is, 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.839 the type of worker he is, and then you add 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.560 the elite talent. So you've got a total pack there 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.920 with Marvin Harrison. If what Matt Miller's saying is true, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.400 the chances of a hit are great because a lot 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.960 of times when you miss on guys in the first round, 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.000 it's not because of talent. There's something there, there's a 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.319 red flag. I think about when the Cardinals drafted Robert 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.520 Kimdchi at the end of the first round. There's a 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.760 reason he dropped that far. There were red flags of 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.040 Robert Kimdicchi. It wasn't about his ability, it was the 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.320 other stuff. You don't have to worry about that with 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.200 Marvin Harrison, and I think there's a lot of guys 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.800 in the top ten you don't have to worry about that, 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.760 which again goes back to how do you how do 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.080 you have these guys situated on your board? Do you 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.960 feel like, whether it's Marvin Harrison Junior or somebody else, 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.600 that this is the best player and if we don't 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.760 take this player, we are passing up on a game 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.840 changer just for the sake of getting an additional pick. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:49.840 I don't think they're going to do that. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.160 Yeah, No, I'm kind of withy on that one, David. 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.840 Right now, listen, what's the old saying. Nature abhors a vacuum, 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.800 right that's the old saying right there, Nature abhors a vacuum. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.560 And guess what, Scouts abhor ties. They can't stand it, 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:08.080 they can't tolerate it. You have to be convicted. Scouting 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.360 is about being convicted. No, this guy is better than 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.800 this guy. So once again, I hear this theory that 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.000 is out there that maybe they've got these three wide 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.600 receivers and they're all on the same tier, and maybe 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.960 that is true. But I'll guarantee you Manti Assin fort 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.760 he's got it lined up one, two, and three. Who 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.960 does he like the best? I don't. And because of that, 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.800 I think they're going to be definitive as well. I 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.800 don't think it's just going to be a well, you 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.680 know what, if one of these three guys are there, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.760 we'll go ahead and we'll trade down and we'll trade 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.240 back up try to get them. I think the scouting 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:48.480 is much more about conviction, especially at this point. So 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.080 I think we'll see them, we'll see them target a guy. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.600 If in fact they don't trade out of there, I 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.040 think they're gonna do it. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.720 It's not like last year, though, I mean this year, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.320 you have a quarterback. Ostensibly he's going to be there. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.839 We started the sole process with our hashtag let there 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.680 be a fourth QB. Right now looks like there are four. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.640 So what are teams willing to pay for that franchise quarterback? 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.120 How much more perhaps than they were willing to pay 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.880 a year ago. If I told you the Cardinals could 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.880 go down to number six and get a pair of 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.800 second round picks out of the New York Giants, how 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.240 enticing might that be? What if I told you could 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.120 trade with Minnesota, go down to eleven, get two first 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.920 round picks eleven and twenty three and Justin Jefferson, which 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.080 has been reported, or Denver's so desperate for a quarterback 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.680 they have Jared Stoodham and Zach Wilson right now, they're 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.800 gonna give you twelve the future first and Patrick Sir Tan. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.280 My gut feeling is Manias Sport doesn't want to trade 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.920 out at number four, but some team will make him 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.040 trade out at number four with an offer that is 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.440 just it blows him away. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.319 Yeah, well, I think we need to see what Washington 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.720 does first. Assuming Washington takes Jaden Daniels, does New England 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:00.280 like Drake May enough or do they trade out like 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.400 JJ McCarthy better. I doubt it. So Drake May has 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.480 gone at three. Is there a team that thinks, well, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.319 if we don't get to four to take JJ McCarthy, 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.959 he's going to go somebody's going to trade to five, 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.360 or somebody's going to trade to six, or the Giants 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.400 will just take him at six. And then it comes 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.160 down to again, you weigh, well, if I get all 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.720 these picks, but I got to give up a player 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.480 that I am convicted as you use that Vertwolf, I'm 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.880 convicted I'm targeting that I think is the best player 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.640 for our team at four. I still feel like you 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.160 take the player rather than the deal in that situation. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.600 Peyton Manning said the other day on Denver Sports Radio, 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.680 the Broncos are quote very interested in JJ McCarthy. The 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.280 Giants are said to like Drake May because the reminds 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.560 the head coach, Brian Dable of his former quarterback in 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.760 Buffalo when he was the OC Josh Allen. So there's 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.679 stuff flying here, reallywhere, and you got to be at 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.679 the Cardinals Draft party tomorrow night, presented by Arizona four 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.840 Dealer is Azycardinals dot Com slash Draft Party. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.160 With the sixth pick in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.840 the Arizona Cardinals select Paris Johnson Junior. 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:15.080 Ohio's take, the Cardinals were brilliant last year in the 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.760 way they manipulated the draft. Mante austin Ford, their general manager, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.839 went from three to twelve to six, got everything you wanted, 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.840 more picks. It was brilliant, it was great, and they 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.440 were going to be open to doing the same thing. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.560 That is Adam Schefter on the Pat McAfee show three 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.440 draft day trades a year ago involving top ten picks 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.880 with many austin Ford making two of them as the 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.160 Cardinals trader from three to twelve then back up to six. 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.320 If you look at the past five drafts, or have 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.520 been twenty eight trades total during Day one, Round one 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.120 of the draft that included first round picks. So we'll 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.600 see exactly what happens. We'll see what sort of calls 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.360 come Manti Austin Ford's way. It's a big red raged 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.160 was the night before the NFL Draft, our annual addition 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.120 Wolf Day Pass. There's truly, Paul Calvisi and by the way, 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:04.760 two of the three of us will be out of 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.319 the NFL Draft party on the Great Lawn tomorrow night. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:08.480 Good time will be. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:09.000 Had by all. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.640 You got the jumbo trons, you got players, you got 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.000 coaches up on stage, live coverage, you got food and 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.280 beverage you can buy. It's all free to attend. Parking 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.200 is free. Just gotta go to aasycardinals dot com slash 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.480 draft party and go ahead and sign up your digital 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.480 tickets and then boom, come on out. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:26.240 Who knows? 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.960 Right now there's two first round picks for the Cardinals. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.520 Who knows if there might be more? Wolf, I mean 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.800 you take a look and you put your finger to 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.000 the wind on this one, do you think? 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:37.320 I mean? 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.440 Look, there's a no one in the unknown. We don't 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.080 know who, we don't know how much. The only thing 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.440 we really know is the when. As in Manias said repeatedly, 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.200 there will not be a trade until we're on the clock. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.000 See now, once again, Paul, do you buy that right there? Yeah, 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.400 because you do. You don't think New England is going 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.800 to trade out at number three, even though they're waving 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:56.360 that sign. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.240 That's why you wait, because you don't know if New 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.720 England's going to trade So why would you make a 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.280 deal before you know what New England's going to do? 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.880 Yeah? No, I know that. But so do you think 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.440 the Patriots are alive in this? I think they're just 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:07.440 making a lot of noise. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.840 I don't know, But I'm just going back to Paul's 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.240 point about MANI saying that he's not going to do 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.160 anything until they're on the clock. Why would you do 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:15.320 something until you're on the clock. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.480 But see, I have to say this quickly. There are 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.120 people out there that would do something off the clock 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.480 if they got offered what they wanted before, If they 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.440 got a truckload and they got it offered to him before, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.720 they might make a move. Well, the trading general managers 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:31.080 do that. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.520 The Tree Lance Niners Miami deal for three first round 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.320 picks was done a month before the draft. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:37.960 Guess what they should have waited till they were on 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:39.400 the clock or not at all. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.640 No, But once again, if you're considering trading out of there, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.720 why wouldn't you wait until you're on the clock. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.360 But he obviously has scenarios in his mind. He's obviously 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.360 had conversations, so he has an idea what's coming. I'm 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.400 sure there will be a surpriser too. Right, there's going 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.000 to be a call that you didn't think was coming 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.400 that you have to weigh against the player you want. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.040 Speaking of Jim Mersey, who can be a loose cannon 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.320 a bit as the Colts owner came out and said 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.120 this week that the Colts have quote great interest in 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.280 Marvin Harrison Junior, the son of their former Hall of 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:16.080 Fame receiver Marvin Harrison. Could the Colts somehow make a 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.640 play to come from fifteen to four. I mean there's 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.360 stuff flying around everywhere, multiple reports that says Moni, he's 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.120 at least fielded four inquiries, four solid inquiries about Okay, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.000 we're going to be interested on draft Dak. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.080 I'm glad you brought that up, Paul, because I think 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.920 there are people, there are teams that are gonna call 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.120 not just about a quarterback, and maybe not just about 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.480 Marvin Harrison. It may be for Joe Aalt. If you 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:44.160 think Joealt is a franchise left tackle, and you think, Man, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.400 if the Cardinals take a receiver, the Chargers are going 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.080 to take Joealt, we need to jump the Chargers again. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.560 I think he's gonna get calls that they may not say, Hey, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.160 this is what we're doing, but it may not be 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.560 for a quarterback. It's we're acting like that's all that's 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:01.000 out there. 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.720 Like Tennessee at number seven, they're in dire need of 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.600 offensive linemen. Maybe they want Joealt. They come up ahead 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.440 of the Chargers, they get their guy, you go back 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.920 to seven. That's something we haven't thrown out there. Look, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.359 here's Adam Schefter again on the Pad McAfee show, just 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.600 talking about, Hey, that number four pick, there's a four 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.080 sale sign on it right now. 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.880 The Cardinals pick is for sale, but no sales are 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.320 final until they're on the clock. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.200 Well even then, I think four is going to be 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.879 a tough spot to get to for some teams. I 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.159 just don't know in the end that Arizona's going to 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.320 be willing to give up the chance to get the 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.520 top wide receiver in this draft to get extra picks. 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:43.080 What here's my ideal scenario. The New York Giants, who 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.320 have invested a lot of time and resources number in 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.280 examining every single quarterback prospect in this draft. Giants come up, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.720 they come up to four, Cardinals go only to six, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.840 They get another second round pick or two, and then 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.520 all of a sudden, to Dave's point, Jim Harbaugh, what's 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.240 his style? The trenches, bullyball. We're gonna be physical. He 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.280 takes the tackle at five. Guess what four quarterbacks one 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.320 through four tackle at five. Marvin Harrison Junior is still 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:10.040 there at six? 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.359 How about that? Yeah, even if the Chargers went with 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.520 a wide receiver as well at number five, Yes, ro 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.200 Madoonze or my league neighbors could be there at number six. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.679 I really do enjoy that right now. But let me 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.920 just say this, Well, Manti asin Ford is doing I 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.040 think is brilliant right now. And the reason being is 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.840 because there is going to be leverage the Arizona Cardinals. 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.199 We all think the draft is going to start with 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.520 a number four pick overall, And because of that, why 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.199 wouldn't you wait until you're actually on the clock to 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:43.160 get all these other team's best offers? Because I guarantee 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:47.120 he's plowed the road. To your point, David, probably four 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.760 or five teams that are out there, he's already plowed 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.280 the road and let him know, listen, we're not gonna 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.200 take any offers until we're on the clock. But make 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:59.480 sure you come with your best early on, because you've 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.840 got twenty seconds go, because I got four other guys 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.720 on hold. I mean, honestly, he's gonna have to get 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.359 these offers and it's gonna have to be a final offer. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.600 And I asked him last month about how much background 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.520 is done leading up to when you're on the clock 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.520 in those weeks and months, and he said, yes, quite 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.679 a bit. You know who's a player who's serious. And 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.120 then to your point, Wolf, in fact, he used those 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.760 words in the Cardinals flight Plan all access video from 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.800 the war room last year, is that your best offer? 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.400 Because once you're on the clock, you're gonna get a team. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.480