Speaker 1: Wam.
Speaker 2: What's up? Is way up at Angela yee. I'm Angela yee.
Speaker 2: And Mano is here. And Meno has been complaining and
Speaker 2: saying that he is battling OBCD every day now. And
Speaker 2: so what I did was I took the liberty to
Speaker 2: invite a very special friend, doctor Ramik Hunt.
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up with doctor Hunt?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm good? Thank you.
Speaker 2: You are an obesity medicine specialist and you're an author,
Speaker 2: no guess work right, and that is a weight loss program.
Speaker 2: But you also have you founded an obcit clinic?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And in printing about ten years ago when
Speaker 4: I had a patient who was battling obesity, and I
Speaker 4: really couldn't help her because we don't really learn a
Speaker 4: lot about OBCD in medical school, and so the only
Speaker 4: knowledge we get in medical school is forwards, eat less.
Speaker 1: Move more, That's it.
Speaker 4: And so that's what I told her, and that was
Speaker 4: that wasn't helpful, of course, But when she came back
Speaker 4: in one day, she had gained some more weight. She
Speaker 4: was really really trying. And I talk about this in
Speaker 4: a book. I asked a question. I was like you know,
Speaker 4: are your children obese? And I wasn't trying to be like,
Speaker 4: you know, offensive of anything like that. And I hope
Speaker 4: the way I said it didn't she didn't feel that way,
Speaker 4: but she started to cry and when she left, like
Speaker 4: her whole life changed. Like long story short, about a
Speaker 4: year later, she came in one hundred pounds less and
Speaker 4: she thanked me for it, and I was like, I
Speaker 4: ain't really do nothing, you know, but it made me
Speaker 4: want to go out and learn more. And so I
Speaker 4: just google like obesity doctors like because it wasn't anything
Speaker 4: like that out there. And then the organization I'm a
Speaker 4: part of, the Obesity Medicine Association. I went to that
Speaker 4: conference and then I got I trained, got board certified,
Speaker 4: and started started to practice.
Speaker 2: I love that because right now that's a hot topic
Speaker 2: right and as of late, we see a lot of
Speaker 2: celebrities and now that's trickled down people using these weight
Speaker 2: loss drugs that have been causing them to drop crazy
Speaker 2: amounts of way. We've heard of ozempic and with Govy
Speaker 2: and so I really wanted to bring you on here
Speaker 2: just to talk about so much that's been happening, mano,
Speaker 2: Like I said, every day comes in here and complains.
Speaker 3: And then I'm guilty of like buying pizza and stuff
Speaker 3: like that with the battle on them faced with and
Speaker 3: then you know, cheese. It's in the corner every single day.
Speaker 2: So I just wanted there's so many different things I
Speaker 2: want to talk about with you, because you talk about resetting,
Speaker 2: what your weight is, you talk about Grellin, and I
Speaker 2: remember we had a great conversation about that.
Speaker 3: I pay attention, No you do.
Speaker 4: I mean, last time mob was up, there was a battle.
Speaker 4: But but I think me and May are gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, So what is the
Speaker 2: cause of obesity? Because some people think, like you said,
Speaker 2: it's just that you're eating too much and you're not exercising,
Speaker 2: because people will look at you, just like Lizzo right.
Speaker 2: For instance, Lizzo works out all the time, she's a
Speaker 2: healthy diet, she's a vegetarian. But people always are like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's not doing anything, and they criticize her and they
Speaker 2: body shame her all the time. So can you talk
Speaker 2: about what is the reason why some people can appear
Speaker 2: to be OBEs?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I actually take care of a lot of celebrities too,
Speaker 4: And one of the things I tell anybody who I
Speaker 4: take care of is that obesity is a disease just
Speaker 4: like any other disease, like high blood pressure or diabetes,
Speaker 4: and our bodies have set points. Like, for instance, you
Speaker 4: have a set point for your PhD seven point four h.
Speaker 4: If you deviate from that set point, your body brings
Speaker 4: you back. You don't have to will power your way
Speaker 4: back to seven point four. Oh, your temperature is set
Speaker 4: at ninety eight point six. If you deviate, if you
Speaker 4: go up, you're gonna sweat. If you go down, you're
Speaker 4: gonna shiver. Those are set points. Your body has a
Speaker 4: set point for your weight as well. It's like think
Speaker 4: of it as a thermostat. So if your thermostat is
Speaker 4: set at eighty and then your temperature goes down, the
Speaker 4: furnace kicks in and then it brings it back to eighty,
Speaker 4: and the furnace shuts off. If the temperature goes up,
Speaker 4: the ac cuts turns on and it goes brings you
Speaker 4: back to eighty and it shuts off. Has the same mechanism,
Speaker 4: but it does it with hormones. One of the hormones
Speaker 4: is called grellin. I call it in my book the
Speaker 4: hunger grimlin. So Grellin activates your craving center in your brain.
Speaker 4: And then there are these other satiating hormones in your gut,
Speaker 4: which is actually the Olympics and the will govies of
Speaker 4: the world. They pharmaceutical companies were able to manufacture it,
Speaker 4: and so those it's seven of them. So these seven
Speaker 4: hormones fight against this one big bag grelling. And so
Speaker 4: the way your body works is if you lose weight,
Speaker 4: your body wants you to get back to your set
Speaker 4: point weight. Let's say it's two fifty, so you two hundred.
Speaker 4: It's gonna get you back there. So how it does
Speaker 4: like it can't make you grab a big mac. But
Speaker 4: what your body can do is increase your grelling tenfold
Speaker 4: and reduce your satiating hormones, the one that makes you
Speaker 4: feel satisfied and full to zero, so you never quite
Speaker 4: feel sensitari and you always like I just want something.
Speaker 4: And so that's why I say this is not a
Speaker 4: willlpower disease. It is not the person's fault. It has
Speaker 4: to do with hormoes, the grimlin. It's the criminal. And
Speaker 4: sure everybody has some you know, steak in the game.
Speaker 4: Obviously you got to put in the work. But like
Speaker 4: we do rat studies, Well, we stick a catheter in
Speaker 4: the rat's brain and we infuse grelin or the grimlin
Speaker 4: and they eat e e eat until they vomit. Same rat,
Speaker 4: you stick a catheter in their brain and you block grelling.
Speaker 4: They stare at the food and they at the until
Speaker 4: they starved at that because like, this is the one
Speaker 4: powerful these hormones are. So when people say, oh, it's
Speaker 4: just will power, you just will power is an emotion.
Speaker 4: It is like love hate. It is so you could
Speaker 4: you could get up on the wrong side of the
Speaker 4: bed and not have willpower that there. So that is
Speaker 4: not a good strategy for the city.
Speaker 3: And so how can you how can yeah, how can
Speaker 3: you reset your set point? Then? Because I feel like
Speaker 3: the set point changes too.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're younger, you're like, okay, I was
Speaker 2: one twenty and a few years later one thirty, then
Speaker 2: a few years later one thirty five, and your set
Speaker 2: point keeps on changing.
Speaker 3: How can you reset that?
Speaker 4: Or can you that's a good that's a very good
Speaker 4: question that we and specialists in obcit space fight over
Speaker 4: all the time. I'm in the camp that you can
Speaker 4: reset your set point, but it takes many, many years.
Speaker 4: So the set point has to do with a lot
Speaker 4: of inflammation in your brain in this area called the
Speaker 4: hypothalamus and a smaller area called the arcuate nucleus, and
Speaker 4: that area gets inflamed and that changes your set point.
Speaker 1: And a lot of things change your set point. The
Speaker 1: types of.
Speaker 4: Food that we particularly carbohydrates, and so when people say
Speaker 4: things like, oh, I'm eating bright, they might be like,
Speaker 4: they have this if you have a Soto's commercials back
Speaker 4: in the day.
Speaker 1: They don't put them on the air anymore.
Speaker 4: But when they had kids that were starving, so you
Speaker 4: had the one set of kids that were really, really skinny,
Speaker 4: and then you can see their ribs, right, that's one
Speaker 4: set that's called Those kids are called morassmus kids, that's
Speaker 4: the medical term for it. But then the other kids
Speaker 4: were skinny in their arms and legs, and then they had.
Speaker 1: A big old belly.
Speaker 4: Those kids ate enough calories, but they were poor, so
Speaker 4: they couldn't eat or get protein like meat basically, so
Speaker 4: they would only eat grains. I eat carbs, and so
Speaker 4: their belly is not just fluid, it's actually fat. But
Speaker 4: then you got to be like, well, then how they
Speaker 4: have energy for their bodies. Well, their body had to
Speaker 4: take the energy from their muscle, which is why their
Speaker 4: arms and legs are skinny. So what's a science to this?
Speaker 4: So if you eat a lot of carbohydrates, you will
Speaker 4: gain weight and so so part of what we do
Speaker 4: is we tell people to limit their carbohydrates and learn
Speaker 4: how to navigate in this low carb world, I mean
Speaker 4: this high carb worold we live in a high carbor
Speaker 4: We definitely could.
Speaker 2: I'd be having them carb craving, not as like bread
Speaker 2: though away from bread, yes, it's hard. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: what hype of bread to eat though, because I'm always like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Get some ezekiel bread or something. Well, so wheat.
Speaker 4: That's funny about wheat because like the government allows you
Speaker 4: to say it's wheat if you just sprinkle a little
Speaker 4: wheat on it, if it's a little around, so it
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be like.
Speaker 3: Whole week.
Speaker 4: The one hundred is one hundred percent of the things
Speaker 4: that they dropped in the flower that was yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: if you if you got a bread that's full of fiber,
Speaker 4: because that's what that's what wheat is basically, right, it's
Speaker 4: a car, but it's a fiber. A fiber is harder
Speaker 4: to break down. In fact, some fiber doesn't get broke down.
Speaker 4: It just comes out in your stool. But if you
Speaker 4: were to eat like a real, like straight up fiber bread,
Speaker 4: it would it would taste like cardboard.
Speaker 1: Now to mind you, we do. They do sell them,
Speaker 1: and some of them are okay.
Speaker 3: And they do taste like carb.
Speaker 2: You put a lot of butter on it, you'll be okay.
Speaker 2: And I also so now maynokep On saying that he's
Speaker 2: battling obese.
Speaker 5: I'm clinically. When you look at me, I'm clinically.
Speaker 2: And and I want to discuss that because they just
Speaker 2: said the American Metal Association has adapted a new policy
Speaker 2: on healthy weight assessment because they did say that the
Speaker 2: bar for what they're saying is obese is racist in
Speaker 2: the way that it was. So can you touch on
Speaker 2: that a little bit because this report just came out.
Speaker 2: As far as I'm considering other factors including body composition,
Speaker 2: belly fat, and waste circumference.
Speaker 4: Yes, shout out to doctor Fatima Cody Stanford. Doctor Stanford
Speaker 4: is in Harvard and she's an African American female, and
Speaker 4: she has been a champion of that for a long
Speaker 4: long time and she's a good friend of mine, and
Speaker 4: so she has done studies to show that different be
Speaker 4: and mys for different different ethnicities have different risk factors
Speaker 4: for diabetes and high blood pressure. So, for instance, Asian population,
Speaker 4: we use it being my thirty for obesit in America,
Speaker 4: but Asian would start to what we consider obese at
Speaker 4: lower like twenty seven would be their OBC.
Speaker 1: And so in African American men and women are different.
Speaker 4: So the push is to be more specific and not
Speaker 4: one size fit all for the being my because of
Speaker 4: being my, it's just your height and your weight.
Speaker 1: And then that's it. What if you're a football player,
Speaker 1: you all muscle, right, you're not obese.
Speaker 3: You don or you might not be obese.
Speaker 5: I'm not a football player, but.
Speaker 2: You can't look at somebody and say this person is obese.
Speaker 5: Right, because I've been to adoptors and then they get
Speaker 5: you on the scale, right, and then they check and
Speaker 5: see how told you all and say, well, at this height,
Speaker 5: this is what feet you should be one and it.
Speaker 2: Be ridiculous, every ridiculous, like this.
Speaker 5: Is what they say, and I'm like, well, I'm one
Speaker 5: ninety five obese.
Speaker 1: So it's not right.
Speaker 4: It's not right, it's it's the problem with the B
Speaker 4: in my is that it is a very cost effective
Speaker 4: or cheap way to be able to identify somebody who
Speaker 4: has obesity.
Speaker 1: But it's it's not personally.
Speaker 3: It's not a one size fits it's not.
Speaker 4: A one size Because what I would do if you
Speaker 4: came to me, man, I would put you on this
Speaker 4: body composition machine, this BIA which you stand on.
Speaker 1: It's like a star Trek scale look like.
Speaker 4: And so you stand on it and these electricity comes
Speaker 4: through your body, very small current. And the way we
Speaker 4: tell your fat, water and muscle is the speed at
Speaker 4: which that electricity goes through your body. And then I
Speaker 4: could calculate that Let's say your muscle mass weighs seventy pounds,
Speaker 4: your fat mass weighs ninety pounds, and so I use
Speaker 4: that and I do that for patients every two to
Speaker 4: three months so that we can see if they're losing fat,
Speaker 4: muscle both. And that allows me to be able to
Speaker 4: give them a specific prescription for themselves and say, hey,
Speaker 4: you need to eat thirty grams more of protein. And
Speaker 4: then you know, we do segmental what we call BIA's
Speaker 4: the body composition, so I'll know how much muscle you
Speaker 4: got in the left rom.
Speaker 1: Versus the right, your left leg versus your right.
Speaker 4: So we put people on the machine, and I'm able
Speaker 4: so the tools that I have, I'm able to do
Speaker 4: more tailored, tailored treatments. But everybody can't do that because
Speaker 4: my machine costs with teen thousand dollars, so everybody, every
Speaker 4: doctor can't put one another.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's Jersey.
Speaker 1: Machine.
Speaker 5: I'm coming for the Star Trek electricity.
Speaker 3: And I want to ask you this.
Speaker 2: So as far as medication, now, let's talk about this
Speaker 2: crazy that's.
Speaker 3: Been going on.
Speaker 2: Because originally ozimpic was for type two diabetes. Correct correct, right,
Speaker 2: And so now a lot of people have been using
Speaker 2: that to drop the weight like this, How safe is that?
Speaker 2: And because I've been hearing a lot of different things,
Speaker 2: if you stop using it, the weight comes back. It's expensive,
Speaker 2: and it's something that you have to continue to be
Speaker 2: on and if you get off of it, you know,
Speaker 2: then it loses everything that's happened to you. I've heard
Speaker 2: instances where people have said it's caused them to lose
Speaker 2: their vision and things like that because there are side
Speaker 2: effects that can come with that, and I know people
Speaker 2: who have used it and have had to stop for
Speaker 2: whatever reason. And then some people are saying, well, people
Speaker 2: can't get their diabetes medication because people are using.
Speaker 3: This just for weight loss.
Speaker 2: How safe is it to use something like ozempic and
Speaker 2: is it a long term solution or what is it?
Speaker 4: That's so, you gave me a bunch, but I'm gonna
Speaker 4: try to be brief, even though I'm not a brief person,
Speaker 4: but anyway, I'm gonna be brief. So before ozempic, there
Speaker 4: was BY eight of which is like fifteen twenty years old,
Speaker 4: so it's the same class or drugs. I've been using
Speaker 4: ozmpic for years before any celebrity knew about it, because
Speaker 4: we know the mechanism is one of those satiating hormones
Speaker 4: that I was talking to you about. So let's get
Speaker 4: back to what it's used for. It's used for diabetes
Speaker 4: type two diabetes, but it's also used with used for obesity.
Speaker 4: The generic name of it is semaglatide, but the FDA
Speaker 4: made us change the name. If we are using it
Speaker 4: for diabetes, we got to call it ozimpic. If we're
Speaker 4: using it for obesity. We got to call it we goovi,
Speaker 4: so it's very clear as to what.
Speaker 3: But it's the same thing, the exact same drugs. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Idn't know it was the same thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, exact same drug. We put it in different pins.
Speaker 4: The Goovi pin looks different than the ozempic pin, but
Speaker 4: that's intentional. So it's exact same medication. So when people
Speaker 4: say they can't get it and they use it for
Speaker 4: their type, their diabetes, and people are using it for obesity, again,
Speaker 4: that means that you don't respect obesity as a disease
Speaker 4: because it's obesity is a disease just like diabetes, and
Speaker 4: in fact, obesity causes diabetes.
Speaker 1: Obesity causes hypertension.
Speaker 4: So if you have an obesity centric approach to taking
Speaker 4: care of a patient, you will cure there or control
Speaker 4: their diabetes and their high blood pressure and all these
Speaker 4: other things. And so it is absolutely appropriate to use
Speaker 4: these medicines for obesity. In fact, obesity is the number
Speaker 4: one disease in this country, in fact the world, more
Speaker 4: so than high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, everything, and obesity
Speaker 4: causes all these things. It's an inflammatory process, so it
Speaker 4: actually leads to cancers, it's associated specifically with thirteen cancers,
Speaker 4: but many more it's associated with and particularly guy cancers
Speaker 4: like so uterine cancer, breast cancer, all these things. So
Speaker 4: obesity is something that we should use to treat it. Now,
Speaker 4: as far as the side effects that you were saying, Angela,
Speaker 4: like the the vision thing, that is a rare thing
Speaker 4: that actually could happen.
Speaker 1: It's not like something new that we didn't know.
Speaker 4: It's because you can correct someone's sugar googles very rapidly
Speaker 4: when you use these medications, because they're very effective, and
Speaker 4: so they have a black box like go on there
Speaker 4: to say, hey, you know, make sure your your your
Speaker 4: eyes are okay.
Speaker 1: But the.
Speaker 4: What it causes this thing called diabetical right napathy. It
Speaker 4: actually is a temporary thing and it's very very rare.
Speaker 4: I've never seen it. But other diabetes drugs do the
Speaker 4: same thing. So insulin even has that warning on it
Speaker 4: that it can correct your sugar so so rapidly that
Speaker 4: it can affect your vision. So that's actually not a
Speaker 4: big deal. The other things that these drugs like the
Speaker 4: Olympics and amandyros and the Govies of the world can
Speaker 4: cause our mostly gi side effects because the hormone you
Speaker 4: produce in your body. It's it's the pharmaceutical company manufactured.
Speaker 4: So it's ninety eight ninety four to ninety eight percent
Speaker 4: similar to what we all produce and so and it's
Speaker 4: produced in your gut.
Speaker 1: So the biggest side.
Speaker 4: Effect is, particularly if you overeat, is nausea and vomiting.
Speaker 4: And so that's why we ty trate the dose up
Speaker 4: very slowly over three to four months actually, so that
Speaker 4: you won't get that nausea.
Speaker 1: Vominating can cause, rhea rarely can cause.
Speaker 3: So it suppresses your appetite, is right? Okay?
Speaker 2: Because I also saw the doctor they said that created
Speaker 2: the what is it called the semug sema glue tide,
Speaker 2: said that it makes life very boring and people won't
Speaker 2: want to be on it for extended periods of time
Speaker 2: because it makes you not enjoy food.
Speaker 5: You don't want to go out and eat.
Speaker 1: No, that's not true.
Speaker 3: You know how we love having our parties up here?
Speaker 1: I don't. That's right, that's right, man, that's right.
Speaker 3: Okay. So what happens if you stop taking it?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Does the weight come back?
Speaker 4: So we we've were not we because the nova notice
Speaker 4: is the one that the.
Speaker 1: Has Ozimpic and Mogov.
Speaker 4: But there we've done studies or they've done studies on
Speaker 4: that specifically. And so when you stop the medication, roughly
Speaker 4: about eighty percent of people regain their weight and not
Speaker 4: when you look at the curve because they went out
Speaker 4: the three years. When you look at the curve, it
Speaker 4: goes up, but it doesn't go completely to where their
Speaker 4: starting weight is. But the but but the thought is
Speaker 4: that if they if they kept the study going, you
Speaker 4: would probably see it go right back to your baseline.
Speaker 1: Weight, which proves the second point.
Speaker 4: Theory and the Grelland but what I want to say
Speaker 4: about that is this is the same medication Ozmpic or
Speaker 4: with Goov that if you had diabetes, you would stay
Speaker 4: on it for life to control your diabetes.
Speaker 1: If you have obesity, most.
Speaker 4: People would need to stay on it for life to
Speaker 4: control their obesity. Now what I do is if you
Speaker 4: come to me and we need to help with medication,
Speaker 4: which I think medication is super important for most people
Speaker 4: because what you're telling somebody to do is to fight
Speaker 4: this fight.
Speaker 1: Like you. Let's say you're in a heavyweight fight. You
Speaker 1: fighting a heavyweight champion.
Speaker 4: Of the world, and your odds aren't that good in
Speaker 4: the first place. And then somebody says, hey, have this
Speaker 4: fight with I want you to get rid of one
Speaker 4: of your tools. So we're gonna tie one of your
Speaker 4: hands behind your back and you're gonna fight the heavyweight
Speaker 4: champion of the world.
Speaker 1: There's no wins in me.
Speaker 4: Conser like, you're not gonna win that fight, and so
Speaker 4: I need to give you all your tools and will
Speaker 4: go vi your Olympic and whatever.
Speaker 1: Min general are the tools.
Speaker 4: And so what I tell people is we're gonna use
Speaker 4: it until we get to your goal weight.
Speaker 1: And if you.
Speaker 4: Want to stop this medication at that time, we can,
Speaker 4: but we're gonna monitor you.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be.
Speaker 4: Like, good job, I'll see you in a thousand years,
Speaker 4: Like no, I'm gonna mind. And if your weight starts
Speaker 4: to go back up, we're gonna put you back on it.
Speaker 4: But some people they go, you know what, I have
Speaker 4: so much control over my life.
Speaker 1: I feel happy.
Speaker 4: So when he said that people who live a boring life,
Speaker 4: my experience is totally different. They live a great life
Speaker 4: because they can have control. They might just take a
Speaker 4: bite of pizza and like I'm good because they have
Speaker 4: that kind of control.
Speaker 5: That yahous two or three slices. What about other things
Speaker 5: like pennamine.
Speaker 4: So so so mano talk. So these are oral medications.
Speaker 4: So Finchermine is one. The brand name was atapects. People
Speaker 4: know about atipacts. So those medications work too, they're they're
Speaker 4: they're good too. They're not as good as the medications
Speaker 4: that are the injectable medications because those medications are produced
Speaker 4: by your body. Basically, they just manufactured it in the lab.
Speaker 4: But finchermine does does work, but the stimulate.
Speaker 5: Stops working after a while, right like if you take it,
Speaker 5: if you prescribe, because I was prescribed that all time
Speaker 5: and then I took all of them, then it stopped working.
Speaker 4: So so Finchermine is one of those medicines where some
Speaker 4: people develop tolerance to it, so that means like after
Speaker 4: a while, it's not as effective as it was when
Speaker 4: you first took it, so then people go up on
Speaker 4: the dose. But one of the problems is not that
Speaker 4: you develop tolerance, is that you realize that you have
Speaker 4: control and you don't have cravings. But you might see
Speaker 4: this cake on the table and you don't really even
Speaker 4: want it, but it's there, but it's this I got control.
Speaker 4: Take a bite and guess what, You only take a bite,
Speaker 4: so you feeling you're feeling real big bag, big bad
Speaker 4: and bold. The next time you go, you might take
Speaker 4: two pikes. The next time you might take three. And
Speaker 4: what happens is Fentchermin can only let's say, block ten,
Speaker 4: you know, ten carbs from coming.
Speaker 1: In before it goes down to you all day. It's
Speaker 1: not all day.
Speaker 4: And if some of these carbs can get by a
Speaker 4: Fenchermin or ozimpic even or any of them meds and
Speaker 4: hit that button to activate your craving center, it's too late.
Speaker 4: So I tell people when they're on these medications, if
Speaker 4: they if that happens to them going a three day
Speaker 4: carb detox. But what I tell them before that is
Speaker 4: that if you see that cake and you know you
Speaker 4: don't really want it, don't eat it because you're going
Speaker 4: to self sabotage yourself because.
Speaker 2: We end up going out and socially, yeah problem, yeah,
Speaker 2: that is because you have those things in the house
Speaker 2: or somebody brings.
Speaker 3: It to you, or they're like, here, I brought you
Speaker 3: a baggage.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: Next thing, you know, come in here with cakes and
Speaker 5: don't you know stuff like that. That's that's listen, I'm
Speaker 5: driving by Krispy Kreme, that.
Speaker 1: Red light is on.
Speaker 5: I'm like no, yes, yes, no, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you these medications will help you have better
Speaker 4: control over those And we again, we don't live in
Speaker 4: a low car world. So it's like, you know, to
Speaker 4: tell somebody to eat you know, celery with some dip.
Speaker 1: It's like that people.
Speaker 2: Who just want to lose a few pounds, right because
Speaker 2: they have a vacation coming up or something like that,
Speaker 2: and then they're like, let me get my hands on
Speaker 2: some ozempic. Because it is important to make sure that
Speaker 2: you monitor this and prescribe this absolutely right.
Speaker 1: So that's another thing.
Speaker 4: So one, if you want to lose a couple of
Speaker 4: pounds just because you want to lose a couple of
Speaker 4: pounds and you don't have obesity, that is not FDA.
Speaker 4: It proved that is not something that we would recommend.
Speaker 4: And and the whole thing about being prescribed one is
Speaker 4: that there are a lot of weight clinics where you
Speaker 4: just give them, give them some cash and they'll give
Speaker 4: you some finch mean, but they don't tell you nothing
Speaker 4: about the diet of how things work.
Speaker 1: And they don't educate you. And so most people it'll.
Speaker 4: Work even if you if you don't have you have
Speaker 4: no brains at all, because it will just work. But
Speaker 4: if you if I give you a little knowledge, you
Speaker 4: can use that tool to then beat that fight. And
Speaker 4: so that's the problem. And the other thing is you
Speaker 4: definitely need to be prescribed it because when you see
Speaker 4: people pull ozimpic or goovi out of a vial, it
Speaker 4: is not mozimpic or govi because it doesn't come in
Speaker 4: a vil. And if you get in that it's compounded
Speaker 4: from somebody who put it together and you don't know
Speaker 4: where you getting your stuff from, just like if you got.
Speaker 1: It's not in a vowel, it's no, it's not, is
Speaker 1: it No, it's in a pen. It does not come
Speaker 1: into vile. Period.
Speaker 2: To make sure you get in mind, because you also
Speaker 2: want to make sure you know how it's going to
Speaker 2: react to your body.
Speaker 3: I assumed write anything like this.
Speaker 6: This is a serious meta, especially especially if you have
Speaker 6: diabetes because some of the medications that we give people
Speaker 6: for diabetes.
Speaker 4: If you are not a physician, you won't know how
Speaker 4: to tell that patient, hey, you know what you need
Speaker 4: to cut that in half or stop it all together
Speaker 4: when I give you this with GOVI or Olympic, so
Speaker 4: it's important to do it with the doctor. But again,
Speaker 4: if it's in a vile and you pulling it out
Speaker 4: with a syringe, that is not ozempical. With GOOVI or
Speaker 4: mind general, it's none of them because all of them
Speaker 4: come prepackaged in a pen.
Speaker 2: How did this get so popular all of a sudden?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like this is new, Like you know,
Speaker 2: this is a fairly recent thing. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: everyone's on it, people are watching. I saw an article
Speaker 2: I think it was I don't know if it was
Speaker 2: the New York Times where people were talking about the
Speaker 2: shame that they have with admitting that they're on ozempic
Speaker 2: to lose the weight.
Speaker 3: But people are also looking.
Speaker 2: We saw Elon musk yes saying that he would taking
Speaker 2: it and how amazing it is.
Speaker 3: But it feels like a craze all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: and how did that happen?
Speaker 4: I think it's the celebrities because I've again, I've been
Speaker 4: using it for years before and I didn't have any
Speaker 4: issues getting it now because everybody wants it because celebrities
Speaker 4: are talking about it and endorsing it, and they're not
Speaker 4: endorsing it through the companies. Because I work closely with
Speaker 4: all these companies, so I can tell you that the
Speaker 4: companies are not endorsing these people saying that these are
Speaker 4: great drugs. It is the celebrities that are saying. And
Speaker 4: you see the results, like particularly with these new ones,
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna tell you need to put some stock
Speaker 4: in these companies because they are They're more that are
Speaker 4: coming out that are going to be even more effective
Speaker 4: than the ones that are out now, and you're gonna
Speaker 4: get you won't have to have for a lot of
Speaker 4: people won't even need gastric bypass or the sleeve because
Speaker 4: these medications are going to give you those numbers.
Speaker 5: So I'm trying. I'm like constantly trying to get this
Speaker 5: brustly body.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, no fat up, just cut up?
Speaker 5: What should I do?
Speaker 1: Listen?
Speaker 4: Man, I tell people all the time, like the Hollywood
Speaker 4: celebrities and their trainers no, Like I saw this interview
Speaker 4: with Michael B. Jordan and they were like, well, how'd
Speaker 4: you get so cut up for CREE three? And he joked,
Speaker 4: but he was serious. He was like, oh yeah, my
Speaker 4: trainer and we're working with. All I ate was chicken
Speaker 4: and he joked about it, but basically that's what he means, like,
Speaker 4: you need a little carb diet. Did there is? This
Speaker 4: is science, This is not this hocus pocus stuff. If
Speaker 4: you could get your carbs down and get it well,
Speaker 4: I first have people start below one hundred grams per day,
Speaker 4: but if you get it even lower, you will get
Speaker 4: that because what happens is insulin. This is all a
Speaker 4: hormone game. So it's grelling, it's still satiating hormones, but
Speaker 4: then it's insulin, which is another hormone. Insulin is your
Speaker 4: fat story hormone. So if you if your insulin is high,
Speaker 4: which carbs make your pinkers secrete insulin? If your insulin
Speaker 4: is high, it actually takes that that that food that
Speaker 4: you eat, and it packs it away. That's why I
Speaker 4: told you those those kids with the big bellies, that's
Speaker 4: what happens to them. If your insulin is low, you
Speaker 4: can actually burn the food that you eat and also
Speaker 4: burn fat because when your insulin is high, you can't
Speaker 4: turn the fat burning switch on. It's impossible to turn
Speaker 4: on the fat burning switch. If your insulin is high
Speaker 4: and the only way to get it low is to
Speaker 4: get your carbs down. I mean also intermitting fasting works
Speaker 4: for the same reason that you don't eat for a
Speaker 4: certain amount of time, so that way you're not stimulating insulin.
Speaker 4: But when people say I'm going to reduce my calories,
Speaker 4: I thought it was calories and calories out.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 4: It's carbs and carbs out. And they like, well, why
Speaker 4: does why does a low calorie diet work? Well, the
Speaker 4: three macronutrients in your food. It's carbs, it's protein, and
Speaker 4: it's fat. If you reduce your calories, you reduce all
Speaker 4: three of them, including carbs.
Speaker 1: So that's why you lose weight. But you don't have
Speaker 1: to reduce protein or fat. You only have to reduce carbs.
Speaker 1: So why you're reducing all those.
Speaker 4: Other things, which is why you can eat hardy with
Speaker 4: a little carb diet, because you can eat proteins and
Speaker 4: healthy fats. Another thing about fat, real quick, the healthiest
Speaker 4: diet in the world is a Mediterranean diet, and that
Speaker 4: diet is full of fat. It it's fifty to sixty
Speaker 4: percent fat, healthy fat.
Speaker 3: You're ready to have.
Speaker 5: A black What are some of the car Because we
Speaker 5: about the huge information I got you, I got you,
Speaker 5: I got your brothers a day.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I got you like that.
Speaker 5: You know, what I'm saying is what are some of
Speaker 5: the cobs that people need to stay away from? We know,
Speaker 5: bread and hasty crean.
Speaker 4: It's pretty, it's pretty, like I give them the big
Speaker 4: picture of it. So it's obviously sugar in those sweet sugar.
Speaker 4: But then it's what we call refined carbohydrates, the stuff
Speaker 4: that you break down in order to eat because that
Speaker 4: turns into sugar. So what is it. It's all the
Speaker 4: white stuff, so bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, all the stuff
Speaker 4: that we love. Right, But it doesn't mean you can't
Speaker 4: eat it. I don't want to make people like I
Speaker 4: can eat, but you can. First of all, limit how
Speaker 4: much you eat. But then you can substitute it, like
Speaker 4: sometimes why don't you can eat some califer flour rice
Speaker 4: Once in a while, you can eat.
Speaker 1: Cauliflower master.
Speaker 5: As a substitute.
Speaker 1: As a substitute, it depends on ice what it helps.
Speaker 1: But again there's still some carbs in it.
Speaker 6: So what I tell people, it makes me poop clean
Speaker 6: and what would make me go to the day.
Speaker 4: But what I tell people is I'm not saying you
Speaker 4: can't eat carbs. What I said tell people is, look,
Speaker 4: I want you to get your carbs down less than
Speaker 4: one hundred.
Speaker 1: Think of it like this.
Speaker 4: You got one hundred dollars in the atem that you
Speaker 4: can withdraw every single day. I need you to be
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars or less, so you can't overdraft. You
Speaker 4: can't draw more than one hundred dollars. So listen, if
Speaker 4: you give, I'll get your hundred dollars. If you want
Speaker 4: to spend seventy five dollars on a bagel, because that's
Speaker 4: how many carbs are in a bagel.
Speaker 2: And you know, there's a lot of apps that you
Speaker 2: can use it. Actually, you input what you eat and
Speaker 2: it'll even tell you like certain restaurants. You put that
Speaker 2: in and it'll track all of that for you. So
Speaker 2: every day, if you can track what you're spending on
Speaker 2: your carbs exactly, then you can stay.
Speaker 5: Away from like potatoes. I don't really do rice bread,
Speaker 5: but I like to have pasta every now and then.
Speaker 4: And that's okay if it's every now and then. But then,
Speaker 4: like what we don't know is like a lot of
Speaker 4: things that have carbs, Like some people are like, well,
Speaker 4: all I do is eat fruit and vegetables. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: so what kind of fruit did you eat? They'd be like,
Speaker 4: I eat six bananas a day, and I'll be like, okay,
Speaker 4: So just so you know, not fruit is good.
Speaker 1: But let's break it down.
Speaker 4: One large banana has the exact same amount of sugar
Speaker 4: in it as a Snickers bar, So you gotta be mindful, now,
Speaker 4: mind you, that's about thirty to thirty five grams of.
Speaker 3: Cars But it's a different type of sugar, right.
Speaker 1: It's the same type of sugar.
Speaker 4: The difference is that a banana and a sna bar
Speaker 4: is different in the sense that your glycemic index, which
Speaker 4: I'm not going to bore you about, but the bottom
Speaker 4: line is that your body will metabolize the sugar in
Speaker 4: the banana much more healthier, i'd say, than the one
Speaker 4: in the sugars bar because it has fiber in it
Speaker 4: and so the absorption is much lower. But the bottom
Speaker 4: line is you still eventually are going to get those
Speaker 4: thirty to thirty five grams of sugar. And so if
Speaker 4: you were to compare a banana to berries and any berry, strawberries, bluebirds, BlackBerry,
Speaker 4: any berry, a handful of berries only has nine grams
Speaker 4: of cars so you're much better off eating berries than
Speaker 4: you are if you're following a particularly if you're following
Speaker 4: a low carb diet, then you are eating in a banana.
Speaker 4: So it doesn't mean you can't eat a banana, but
Speaker 4: maybe eat half of the banana. So instead of thirty carbs,
Speaker 4: you're getting fifteen grams.
Speaker 3: And how do you eat it? Do you eat it?
Speaker 5: Like breaking down like that?
Speaker 3: Wow, gizzies.
Speaker 2: All right, well listen, doctor Romie Hint, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for joining us today.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 2: The book that you have out is the No Guesswork Diet,
Speaker 2: and it's transform transformative for a lot of people. I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people that you've helped, and so
Speaker 2: that's why I wanted to make sure I brought you
Speaker 2: up here, because I've been watching so many things and
Speaker 2: reading so many different stories, and so I wanted to
Speaker 2: get it straight from you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to just say the reason I
Speaker 4: wrote this book is because there's doctors do not really
Speaker 4: help us with with with weight loss. We blame it
Speaker 4: on the patient and so but that's not what we
Speaker 4: should be doing. So I wrote this book to take
Speaker 4: the guest work that's why I called them no guest
Speaker 4: work out of healthy living and and and to help
Speaker 4: you get to a healthier weight because there's so many
Speaker 4: gimmicks out there, and because doctors don't instruct you. You
Speaker 4: are on late night television flipping through the channel like
Speaker 4: I'm anna by this tummy roller. I'm gonna do it
Speaker 4: a drink and and and it's dizzy. And so that's
Speaker 4: why I wanted to wrect because these are facts. I
Speaker 4: got references in the back. I'm actually in the studio,
Speaker 4: may know, produce some do my audiobook though I'm not rapping,
Speaker 4: but but yeah, so I'm in the sort of audiobook
Speaker 4: will be out in about six weeks. So if you
Speaker 4: know so you can, you can read it, you can
Speaker 4: listen to it. So and I hope you like it.
Speaker 4: If you do, just let us know.
Speaker 3: And where can people find you?
Speaker 4: They can find me on social media, although I'm not
Speaker 4: on there as much as I should be at at
Speaker 4: at doctor Ramik Hunt on all R A M A
Speaker 4: C K Doctor And then you know I'm a part
Speaker 4: of the Three Doctors. We wrote a bestseller called The Pack,
Speaker 4: the New York Times bestseller. We actually and this is
Speaker 4: public knowledge. We're actually working with CBS on a television
Speaker 4: series for that book.
Speaker 2: Finally, I've been waiting forever for this movie or a
Speaker 2: series to come. So that's a male yes. And everybody
Speaker 2: read that book, The Pact growing up. It was three doctors.
Speaker 2: You guys were friends growing up, and you made a
Speaker 2: pack to become doctors, and you fulfill that after overcoming
Speaker 2: many obstacles.
Speaker 3: I told Manor he would love you.
Speaker 2: I was a you know, attempted murder charge and went
Speaker 2: on to become.
Speaker 1: A doctor, stopping.
Speaker 5: You always want to bring up old stuff, right, You
Speaker 5: always want to bring up old stoff new madeo, new
Speaker 5: doctor rob me, not the old version.
Speaker 3: The new brand better than the old brand.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you being real, real real, Yes, right,
Speaker 2: so I appreciate you and all the work that you've
Speaker 2: been doing.
Speaker 3: Mayo, ready for a new Mado.
Speaker 1: That's right, I'm about to get right.
Speaker 3: All right. It's the way up at Angela.
Speaker 2: You get right, the right way
Speaker 1: Way