1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Wam. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: What's up? Is way up at Angela yee. I'm Angela yee. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: And Mano is here. And Meno has been complaining and 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: saying that he is battling OBCD every day now. And 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: so what I did was I took the liberty to 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: invite a very special friend, doctor Ramik Hunt. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: What's up? What's up with doctor Hunt? 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: How are you? 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. How you doing? 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 3: I'm good? Thank you. 11 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: You are an obesity medicine specialist and you're an author, 12 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: no guess work right, and that is a weight loss program. 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: But you also have you founded an obcit clinic? 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Yes? 15 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And in printing about ten years ago when 16 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: I had a patient who was battling obesity, and I 17 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 4: really couldn't help her because we don't really learn a 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: lot about OBCD in medical school, and so the only 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 4: knowledge we get in medical school is forwards, eat less. 20 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: Move more, That's it. 21 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 4: And so that's what I told her, and that was 22 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 4: that wasn't helpful, of course, But when she came back 23 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 4: in one day, she had gained some more weight. She 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: was really really trying. And I talk about this in 25 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 4: a book. I asked a question. I was like you know, 26 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: are your children obese? And I wasn't trying to be like, 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 4: you know, offensive of anything like that. And I hope 28 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: the way I said it didn't she didn't feel that way, 29 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: but she started to cry and when she left, like 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: her whole life changed. Like long story short, about a 31 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 4: year later, she came in one hundred pounds less and 32 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: she thanked me for it, and I was like, I 33 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: ain't really do nothing, you know, but it made me 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: want to go out and learn more. And so I 35 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: just google like obesity doctors like because it wasn't anything 36 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: like that out there. And then the organization I'm a 37 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: part of, the Obesity Medicine Association. I went to that 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: conference and then I got I trained, got board certified, 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: and started started to practice. 40 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: I love that because right now that's a hot topic 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: right and as of late, we see a lot of 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: celebrities and now that's trickled down people using these weight 43 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: loss drugs that have been causing them to drop crazy 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: amounts of way. We've heard of ozempic and with Govy 45 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: and so I really wanted to bring you on here 46 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: just to talk about so much that's been happening, mano, 47 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: Like I said, every day comes in here and complains. 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: And then I'm guilty of like buying pizza and stuff 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: like that with the battle on them faced with and 50 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: then you know, cheese. It's in the corner every single day. 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: So I just wanted there's so many different things I 52 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: want to talk about with you, because you talk about resetting, 53 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: what your weight is, you talk about Grellin, and I 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: remember we had a great conversation about that. 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: I pay attention, No you do. 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: I mean, last time mob was up, there was a battle. 57 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: But but I think me and May are gonna be good. 58 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, So what is the 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: cause of obesity? Because some people think, like you said, 60 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: it's just that you're eating too much and you're not exercising, 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: because people will look at you, just like Lizzo right. 62 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: For instance, Lizzo works out all the time, she's a 63 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: healthy diet, she's a vegetarian. But people always are like, oh, 64 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: she's not doing anything, and they criticize her and they 65 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: body shame her all the time. So can you talk 66 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: about what is the reason why some people can appear 67 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: to be OBEs? 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 69 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 4: So I actually take care of a lot of celebrities too, 70 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: And one of the things I tell anybody who I 71 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: take care of is that obesity is a disease just 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: like any other disease, like high blood pressure or diabetes, 73 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: and our bodies have set points. Like, for instance, you 74 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: have a set point for your PhD seven point four h. 75 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: If you deviate from that set point, your body brings 76 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: you back. You don't have to will power your way 77 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 4: back to seven point four. Oh, your temperature is set 78 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: at ninety eight point six. If you deviate, if you 79 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: go up, you're gonna sweat. If you go down, you're 80 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: gonna shiver. Those are set points. Your body has a 81 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: set point for your weight as well. It's like think 82 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: of it as a thermostat. So if your thermostat is 83 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: set at eighty and then your temperature goes down, the 84 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: furnace kicks in and then it brings it back to eighty, 85 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: and the furnace shuts off. If the temperature goes up, 86 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: the ac cuts turns on and it goes brings you 87 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: back to eighty and it shuts off. Has the same mechanism, 88 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: but it does it with hormones. One of the hormones 89 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: is called grellin. I call it in my book the 90 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: hunger grimlin. So Grellin activates your craving center in your brain. 91 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: And then there are these other satiating hormones in your gut, 92 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: which is actually the Olympics and the will govies of 93 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: the world. They pharmaceutical companies were able to manufacture it, 94 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 4: and so those it's seven of them. So these seven 95 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 4: hormones fight against this one big bag grelling. And so 96 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: the way your body works is if you lose weight, 97 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: your body wants you to get back to your set 98 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: point weight. Let's say it's two fifty, so you two hundred. 99 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: It's gonna get you back there. So how it does 100 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: like it can't make you grab a big mac. But 101 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: what your body can do is increase your grelling tenfold 102 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 4: and reduce your satiating hormones, the one that makes you 103 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: feel satisfied and full to zero, so you never quite 104 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 4: feel sensitari and you always like I just want something. 105 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 4: And so that's why I say this is not a 106 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: willlpower disease. It is not the person's fault. It has 107 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: to do with hormoes, the grimlin. It's the criminal. And 108 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: sure everybody has some you know, steak in the game. 109 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: Obviously you got to put in the work. But like 110 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: we do rat studies, Well, we stick a catheter in 111 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: the rat's brain and we infuse grelin or the grimlin 112 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: and they eat e e eat until they vomit. Same rat, 113 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 4: you stick a catheter in their brain and you block grelling. 114 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: They stare at the food and they at the until 115 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: they starved at that because like, this is the one 116 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 4: powerful these hormones are. So when people say, oh, it's 117 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: just will power, you just will power is an emotion. 118 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: It is like love hate. It is so you could 119 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 4: you could get up on the wrong side of the 120 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: bed and not have willpower that there. So that is 121 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 4: not a good strategy for the city. 122 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: And so how can you how can yeah, how can 123 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: you reset your set point? Then? Because I feel like 124 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: the set point changes too. 125 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: You know, when you're younger, you're like, okay, I was 126 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: one twenty and a few years later one thirty, then 127 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: a few years later one thirty five, and your set 128 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: point keeps on changing. 129 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: How can you reset that? 130 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: Or can you that's a good that's a very good 131 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: question that we and specialists in obcit space fight over 132 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: all the time. I'm in the camp that you can 133 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: reset your set point, but it takes many, many years. 134 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: So the set point has to do with a lot 135 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 4: of inflammation in your brain in this area called the 136 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 4: hypothalamus and a smaller area called the arcuate nucleus, and 137 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: that area gets inflamed and that changes your set point. 138 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: And a lot of things change your set point. The 139 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: types of. 140 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: Food that we particularly carbohydrates, and so when people say 141 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: things like, oh, I'm eating bright, they might be like, 142 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: they have this if you have a Soto's commercials back 143 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: in the day. 144 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: They don't put them on the air anymore. 145 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 4: But when they had kids that were starving, so you 146 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 4: had the one set of kids that were really, really skinny, 147 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 4: and then you can see their ribs, right, that's one 148 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 4: set that's called Those kids are called morassmus kids, that's 149 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: the medical term for it. But then the other kids 150 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: were skinny in their arms and legs, and then they had. 151 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: A big old belly. 152 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: Those kids ate enough calories, but they were poor, so 153 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: they couldn't eat or get protein like meat basically, so 154 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: they would only eat grains. I eat carbs, and so 155 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: their belly is not just fluid, it's actually fat. But 156 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: then you got to be like, well, then how they 157 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: have energy for their bodies. Well, their body had to 158 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: take the energy from their muscle, which is why their 159 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: arms and legs are skinny. So what's a science to this? 160 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: So if you eat a lot of carbohydrates, you will 161 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: gain weight and so so part of what we do 162 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: is we tell people to limit their carbohydrates and learn 163 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: how to navigate in this low carb world, I mean 164 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: this high carb worold we live in a high carbor 165 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: We definitely could. 166 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: I'd be having them carb craving, not as like bread 167 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: though away from bread, yes, it's hard. It doesn't matter 168 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: what hype of bread to eat though, because I'm always like, Okay, 169 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna. 170 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Get some ezekiel bread or something. Well, so wheat. 171 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: That's funny about wheat because like the government allows you 172 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: to say it's wheat if you just sprinkle a little 173 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: wheat on it, if it's a little around, so it 174 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: doesn't have to be like. 175 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: Whole week. 176 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: The one hundred is one hundred percent of the things 177 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: that they dropped in the flower that was yeah, exactly, 178 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: if you if you got a bread that's full of fiber, 179 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: because that's what that's what wheat is basically, right, it's 180 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: a car, but it's a fiber. A fiber is harder 181 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: to break down. In fact, some fiber doesn't get broke down. 182 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: It just comes out in your stool. But if you 183 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: were to eat like a real, like straight up fiber bread, 184 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: it would it would taste like cardboard. 185 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: Now to mind you, we do. They do sell them, 186 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: and some of them are okay. 187 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: And they do taste like carb. 188 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: You put a lot of butter on it, you'll be okay. 189 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: And I also so now maynokep On saying that he's 190 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: battling obese. 191 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 5: I'm clinically. When you look at me, I'm clinically. 192 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: And and I want to discuss that because they just 193 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: said the American Metal Association has adapted a new policy 194 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: on healthy weight assessment because they did say that the 195 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: bar for what they're saying is obese is racist in 196 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: the way that it was. So can you touch on 197 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: that a little bit because this report just came out. 198 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: As far as I'm considering other factors including body composition, 199 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: belly fat, and waste circumference. 200 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 4: Yes, shout out to doctor Fatima Cody Stanford. Doctor Stanford 201 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: is in Harvard and she's an African American female, and 202 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: she has been a champion of that for a long 203 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: long time and she's a good friend of mine, and 204 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 4: so she has done studies to show that different be 205 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: and mys for different different ethnicities have different risk factors 206 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: for diabetes and high blood pressure. So, for instance, Asian population, 207 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: we use it being my thirty for obesit in America, 208 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: but Asian would start to what we consider obese at 209 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: lower like twenty seven would be their OBC. 210 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: And so in African American men and women are different. 211 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: So the push is to be more specific and not 212 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 4: one size fit all for the being my because of 213 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: being my, it's just your height and your weight. 214 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: And then that's it. What if you're a football player, 215 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: you all muscle, right, you're not obese. 216 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: You don or you might not be obese. 217 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 5: I'm not a football player, but. 218 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: You can't look at somebody and say this person is obese. 219 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: Right, because I've been to adoptors and then they get 220 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: you on the scale, right, and then they check and 221 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 5: see how told you all and say, well, at this height, 222 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 5: this is what feet you should be one and it. 223 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Be ridiculous, every ridiculous, like this. 224 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 5: Is what they say, and I'm like, well, I'm one 225 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 5: ninety five obese. 226 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: So it's not right. 227 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 4: It's not right, it's it's the problem with the B 228 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: in my is that it is a very cost effective 229 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: or cheap way to be able to identify somebody who 230 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 4: has obesity. 231 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: But it's it's not personally. 232 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: It's not a one size fits it's not. 233 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 4: A one size Because what I would do if you 234 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: came to me, man, I would put you on this 235 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: body composition machine, this BIA which you stand on. 236 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: It's like a star Trek scale look like. 237 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 4: And so you stand on it and these electricity comes 238 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: through your body, very small current. And the way we 239 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: tell your fat, water and muscle is the speed at 240 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: which that electricity goes through your body. And then I 241 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: could calculate that Let's say your muscle mass weighs seventy pounds, 242 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: your fat mass weighs ninety pounds, and so I use 243 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: that and I do that for patients every two to 244 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: three months so that we can see if they're losing fat, 245 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 4: muscle both. And that allows me to be able to 246 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: give them a specific prescription for themselves and say, hey, 247 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: you need to eat thirty grams more of protein. And 248 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: then you know, we do segmental what we call BIA's 249 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: the body composition, so I'll know how much muscle you 250 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: got in the left rom. 251 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: Versus the right, your left leg versus your right. 252 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: So we put people on the machine, and I'm able 253 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: so the tools that I have, I'm able to do 254 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: more tailored, tailored treatments. But everybody can't do that because 255 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: my machine costs with teen thousand dollars, so everybody, every 256 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 4: doctor can't put one another. 257 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: Yes, it's Jersey. 258 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: Machine. 259 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 5: I'm coming for the Star Trek electricity. 260 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: And I want to ask you this. 261 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: So as far as medication, now, let's talk about this 262 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: crazy that's. 263 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 3: Been going on. 264 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: Because originally ozimpic was for type two diabetes. Correct correct, right, 265 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: And so now a lot of people have been using 266 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: that to drop the weight like this, How safe is that? 267 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: And because I've been hearing a lot of different things, 268 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: if you stop using it, the weight comes back. It's expensive, 269 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: and it's something that you have to continue to be 270 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: on and if you get off of it, you know, 271 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: then it loses everything that's happened to you. I've heard 272 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: instances where people have said it's caused them to lose 273 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: their vision and things like that because there are side 274 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: effects that can come with that, and I know people 275 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: who have used it and have had to stop for 276 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: whatever reason. And then some people are saying, well, people 277 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: can't get their diabetes medication because people are using. 278 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: This just for weight loss. 279 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: How safe is it to use something like ozempic and 280 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: is it a long term solution or what is it? 281 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: That's so, you gave me a bunch, but I'm gonna 282 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: try to be brief, even though I'm not a brief person, 283 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: but anyway, I'm gonna be brief. So before ozempic, there 284 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: was BY eight of which is like fifteen twenty years old, 285 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: so it's the same class or drugs. I've been using 286 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: ozmpic for years before any celebrity knew about it, because 287 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 4: we know the mechanism is one of those satiating hormones 288 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: that I was talking to you about. So let's get 289 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: back to what it's used for. It's used for diabetes 290 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: type two diabetes, but it's also used with used for obesity. 291 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: The generic name of it is semaglatide, but the FDA 292 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: made us change the name. If we are using it 293 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: for diabetes, we got to call it ozimpic. If we're 294 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: using it for obesity. We got to call it we goovi, 295 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: so it's very clear as to what. 296 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: But it's the same thing, the exact same drugs. That's crazy. 297 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: Idn't know it was the same thing. 298 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: Okay, exact same drug. We put it in different pins. 299 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: The Goovi pin looks different than the ozempic pin, but 300 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 4: that's intentional. So it's exact same medication. So when people 301 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 4: say they can't get it and they use it for 302 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: their type, their diabetes, and people are using it for obesity, again, 303 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: that means that you don't respect obesity as a disease 304 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: because it's obesity is a disease just like diabetes, and 305 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: in fact, obesity causes diabetes. 306 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: Obesity causes hypertension. 307 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: So if you have an obesity centric approach to taking 308 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: care of a patient, you will cure there or control 309 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: their diabetes and their high blood pressure and all these 310 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: other things. And so it is absolutely appropriate to use 311 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: these medicines for obesity. In fact, obesity is the number 312 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: one disease in this country, in fact the world, more 313 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 4: so than high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, everything, and obesity 314 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 4: causes all these things. It's an inflammatory process, so it 315 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: actually leads to cancers, it's associated specifically with thirteen cancers, 316 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: but many more it's associated with and particularly guy cancers 317 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: like so uterine cancer, breast cancer, all these things. So 318 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: obesity is something that we should use to treat it. Now, 319 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: as far as the side effects that you were saying, Angela, 320 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: like the the vision thing, that is a rare thing 321 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: that actually could happen. 322 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: It's not like something new that we didn't know. 323 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 4: It's because you can correct someone's sugar googles very rapidly 324 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: when you use these medications, because they're very effective, and 325 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: so they have a black box like go on there 326 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: to say, hey, you know, make sure your your your 327 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: eyes are okay. 328 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: But the. 329 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: What it causes this thing called diabetical right napathy. It 330 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: actually is a temporary thing and it's very very rare. 331 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: I've never seen it. But other diabetes drugs do the 332 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: same thing. So insulin even has that warning on it 333 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: that it can correct your sugar so so rapidly that 334 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: it can affect your vision. So that's actually not a 335 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 4: big deal. The other things that these drugs like the 336 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: Olympics and amandyros and the Govies of the world can 337 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: cause our mostly gi side effects because the hormone you 338 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: produce in your body. It's it's the pharmaceutical company manufactured. 339 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: So it's ninety eight ninety four to ninety eight percent 340 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: similar to what we all produce and so and it's 341 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: produced in your gut. 342 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: So the biggest side. 343 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: Effect is, particularly if you overeat, is nausea and vomiting. 344 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: And so that's why we ty trate the dose up 345 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: very slowly over three to four months actually, so that 346 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: you won't get that nausea. 347 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: Vominating can cause, rhea rarely can cause. 348 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: So it suppresses your appetite, is right? Okay? 349 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: Because I also saw the doctor they said that created 350 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: the what is it called the semug sema glue tide, 351 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: said that it makes life very boring and people won't 352 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: want to be on it for extended periods of time 353 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: because it makes you not enjoy food. 354 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: You don't want to go out and eat. 355 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: No, that's not true. 356 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: You know how we love having our parties up here? 357 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't. That's right, that's right, man, that's right. 358 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: Okay. So what happens if you stop taking it? 359 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: Right? 360 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: Does the weight come back? 361 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: So we we've were not we because the nova notice 362 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: is the one that the. 363 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: Has Ozimpic and Mogov. 364 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 4: But there we've done studies or they've done studies on 365 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: that specifically. And so when you stop the medication, roughly 366 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 4: about eighty percent of people regain their weight and not 367 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 4: when you look at the curve because they went out 368 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: the three years. When you look at the curve, it 369 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 4: goes up, but it doesn't go completely to where their 370 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 4: starting weight is. But the but but the thought is 371 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: that if they if they kept the study going, you 372 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 4: would probably see it go right back to your baseline. 373 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: Weight, which proves the second point. 374 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 4: Theory and the Grelland but what I want to say 375 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: about that is this is the same medication Ozmpic or 376 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: with Goov that if you had diabetes, you would stay 377 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: on it for life to control your diabetes. 378 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: If you have obesity, most. 379 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 4: People would need to stay on it for life to 380 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: control their obesity. Now what I do is if you 381 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: come to me and we need to help with medication, 382 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 4: which I think medication is super important for most people 383 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: because what you're telling somebody to do is to fight 384 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 4: this fight. 385 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: Like you. Let's say you're in a heavyweight fight. You 386 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: fighting a heavyweight champion. 387 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 4: Of the world, and your odds aren't that good in 388 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: the first place. And then somebody says, hey, have this 389 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 4: fight with I want you to get rid of one 390 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: of your tools. So we're gonna tie one of your 391 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: hands behind your back and you're gonna fight the heavyweight 392 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: champion of the world. 393 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: There's no wins in me. 394 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 4: Conser like, you're not gonna win that fight, and so 395 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: I need to give you all your tools and will 396 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 4: go vi your Olympic and whatever. 397 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: Min general are the tools. 398 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: And so what I tell people is we're gonna use 399 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 4: it until we get to your goal weight. 400 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: And if you. 401 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 4: Want to stop this medication at that time, we can, 402 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: but we're gonna monitor you. 403 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be. 404 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: Like, good job, I'll see you in a thousand years, 405 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: Like no, I'm gonna mind. And if your weight starts 406 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: to go back up, we're gonna put you back on it. 407 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: But some people they go, you know what, I have 408 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: so much control over my life. 409 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: I feel happy. 410 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 4: So when he said that people who live a boring life, 411 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: my experience is totally different. They live a great life 412 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 4: because they can have control. They might just take a 413 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: bite of pizza and like I'm good because they have 414 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 4: that kind of control. 415 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 5: That yahous two or three slices. What about other things 416 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: like pennamine. 417 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: So so so mano talk. So these are oral medications. 418 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: So Finchermine is one. The brand name was atapects. People 419 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 4: know about atipacts. So those medications work too, they're they're 420 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: they're good too. They're not as good as the medications 421 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: that are the injectable medications because those medications are produced 422 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 4: by your body. Basically, they just manufactured it in the lab. 423 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: But finchermine does does work, but the stimulate. 424 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 5: Stops working after a while, right like if you take it, 425 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: if you prescribe, because I was prescribed that all time 426 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 5: and then I took all of them, then it stopped working. 427 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 4: So so Finchermine is one of those medicines where some 428 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: people develop tolerance to it, so that means like after 429 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: a while, it's not as effective as it was when 430 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: you first took it, so then people go up on 431 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 4: the dose. But one of the problems is not that 432 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: you develop tolerance, is that you realize that you have 433 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 4: control and you don't have cravings. But you might see 434 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: this cake on the table and you don't really even 435 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 4: want it, but it's there, but it's this I got control. 436 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 4: Take a bite and guess what, You only take a bite, 437 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 4: so you feeling you're feeling real big bag, big bad 438 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: and bold. The next time you go, you might take 439 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 4: two pikes. The next time you might take three. And 440 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: what happens is Fentchermin can only let's say, block ten, 441 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 4: you know, ten carbs from coming. 442 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: In before it goes down to you all day. It's 443 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: not all day. 444 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 4: And if some of these carbs can get by a 445 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: Fenchermin or ozimpic even or any of them meds and 446 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: hit that button to activate your craving center, it's too late. 447 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: So I tell people when they're on these medications, if 448 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 4: they if that happens to them going a three day 449 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 4: carb detox. But what I tell them before that is 450 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 4: that if you see that cake and you know you 451 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: don't really want it, don't eat it because you're going 452 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: to self sabotage yourself because. 453 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: We end up going out and socially, yeah problem, yeah, 454 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: that is because you have those things in the house 455 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: or somebody brings. 456 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: It to you, or they're like, here, I brought you 457 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: a baggage. 458 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know. 459 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 5: Next thing, you know, come in here with cakes and 460 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 5: don't you know stuff like that. That's that's listen, I'm 461 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 5: driving by Krispy Kreme, that. 462 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: Red light is on. 463 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 5: I'm like no, yes, yes, no, yes, yes. 464 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: I'm telling you these medications will help you have better 465 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 4: control over those And we again, we don't live in 466 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: a low car world. So it's like, you know, to 467 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: tell somebody to eat you know, celery with some dip. 468 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: It's like that people. 469 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: Who just want to lose a few pounds, right because 470 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 2: they have a vacation coming up or something like that, 471 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: and then they're like, let me get my hands on 472 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: some ozempic. Because it is important to make sure that 473 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: you monitor this and prescribe this absolutely right. 474 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: So that's another thing. 475 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: So one, if you want to lose a couple of 476 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: pounds just because you want to lose a couple of 477 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: pounds and you don't have obesity, that is not FDA. 478 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: It proved that is not something that we would recommend. 479 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 4: And and the whole thing about being prescribed one is 480 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 4: that there are a lot of weight clinics where you 481 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 4: just give them, give them some cash and they'll give 482 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 4: you some finch mean, but they don't tell you nothing 483 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: about the diet of how things work. 484 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: And they don't educate you. And so most people it'll. 485 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 4: Work even if you if you don't have you have 486 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: no brains at all, because it will just work. But 487 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 4: if you if I give you a little knowledge, you 488 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: can use that tool to then beat that fight. And 489 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 4: so that's the problem. And the other thing is you 490 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: definitely need to be prescribed it because when you see 491 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: people pull ozimpic or goovi out of a vial, it 492 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: is not mozimpic or govi because it doesn't come in 493 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 4: a vil. And if you get in that it's compounded 494 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: from somebody who put it together and you don't know 495 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: where you getting your stuff from, just like if you got. 496 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: It's not in a vowel, it's no, it's not, is 497 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: it No, it's in a pen. It does not come 498 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: into vile. Period. 499 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: To make sure you get in mind, because you also 500 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: want to make sure you know how it's going to 501 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: react to your body. 502 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: I assumed write anything like this. 503 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 6: This is a serious meta, especially especially if you have 504 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 6: diabetes because some of the medications that we give people 505 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 6: for diabetes. 506 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: If you are not a physician, you won't know how 507 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: to tell that patient, hey, you know what you need 508 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: to cut that in half or stop it all together 509 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 4: when I give you this with GOVI or Olympic, so 510 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: it's important to do it with the doctor. But again, 511 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: if it's in a vile and you pulling it out 512 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: with a syringe, that is not ozempical. With GOOVI or 513 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: mind general, it's none of them because all of them 514 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 4: come prepackaged in a pen. 515 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: How did this get so popular all of a sudden? 516 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 2: Because I feel like this is new, Like you know, 517 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: this is a fairly recent thing. All of a sudden, 518 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 2: everyone's on it, people are watching. I saw an article 519 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: I think it was I don't know if it was 520 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: the New York Times where people were talking about the 521 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 2: shame that they have with admitting that they're on ozempic 522 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: to lose the weight. 523 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: But people are also looking. 524 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: We saw Elon musk yes saying that he would taking 525 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 2: it and how amazing it is. 526 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 3: But it feels like a craze all of a sudden, 527 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: and how did that happen? 528 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 4: I think it's the celebrities because I've again, I've been 529 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 4: using it for years before and I didn't have any 530 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 4: issues getting it now because everybody wants it because celebrities 531 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: are talking about it and endorsing it, and they're not 532 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: endorsing it through the companies. Because I work closely with 533 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: all these companies, so I can tell you that the 534 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 4: companies are not endorsing these people saying that these are 535 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 4: great drugs. It is the celebrities that are saying. And 536 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: you see the results, like particularly with these new ones, 537 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna tell you need to put some stock 538 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 4: in these companies because they are They're more that are 539 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 4: coming out that are going to be even more effective 540 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: than the ones that are out now, and you're gonna 541 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: get you won't have to have for a lot of 542 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: people won't even need gastric bypass or the sleeve because 543 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: these medications are going to give you those numbers. 544 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 5: So I'm trying. I'm like constantly trying to get this 545 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: brustly body. 546 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, no fat up, just cut up? 547 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 5: What should I do? 548 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: Listen? 549 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: Man, I tell people all the time, like the Hollywood 550 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: celebrities and their trainers no, Like I saw this interview 551 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 4: with Michael B. Jordan and they were like, well, how'd 552 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: you get so cut up for CREE three? And he joked, 553 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: but he was serious. He was like, oh yeah, my 554 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: trainer and we're working with. All I ate was chicken 555 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: and he joked about it, but basically that's what he means, like, 556 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 4: you need a little carb diet. Did there is? This 557 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 4: is science, This is not this hocus pocus stuff. If 558 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: you could get your carbs down and get it well, 559 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: I first have people start below one hundred grams per day, 560 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: but if you get it even lower, you will get 561 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 4: that because what happens is insulin. This is all a 562 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: hormone game. So it's grelling, it's still satiating hormones, but 563 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 4: then it's insulin, which is another hormone. Insulin is your 564 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 4: fat story hormone. So if you if your insulin is high, 565 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 4: which carbs make your pinkers secrete insulin? If your insulin 566 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 4: is high, it actually takes that that that food that 567 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: you eat, and it packs it away. That's why I 568 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: told you those those kids with the big bellies, that's 569 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 4: what happens to them. If your insulin is low, you 570 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 4: can actually burn the food that you eat and also 571 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: burn fat because when your insulin is high, you can't 572 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: turn the fat burning switch on. It's impossible to turn 573 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 4: on the fat burning switch. If your insulin is high 574 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: and the only way to get it low is to 575 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 4: get your carbs down. I mean also intermitting fasting works 576 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 4: for the same reason that you don't eat for a 577 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: certain amount of time, so that way you're not stimulating insulin. 578 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: But when people say I'm going to reduce my calories, 579 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 4: I thought it was calories and calories out. 580 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: It's not. 581 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: It's carbs and carbs out. And they like, well, why 582 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 4: does why does a low calorie diet work? Well, the 583 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 4: three macronutrients in your food. It's carbs, it's protein, and 584 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 4: it's fat. If you reduce your calories, you reduce all 585 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 4: three of them, including carbs. 586 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: So that's why you lose weight. But you don't have 587 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: to reduce protein or fat. You only have to reduce carbs. 588 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: So why you're reducing all those. 589 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: Other things, which is why you can eat hardy with 590 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 4: a little carb diet, because you can eat proteins and 591 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: healthy fats. Another thing about fat, real quick, the healthiest 592 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 4: diet in the world is a Mediterranean diet, and that 593 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: diet is full of fat. It it's fifty to sixty 594 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: percent fat, healthy fat. 595 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: You're ready to have. 596 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 5: A black What are some of the car Because we 597 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: about the huge information I got you, I got you, 598 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 5: I got your brothers a day. 599 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I got you like that. 600 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 5: You know, what I'm saying is what are some of 601 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 5: the cobs that people need to stay away from? We know, 602 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: bread and hasty crean. 603 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 4: It's pretty, it's pretty, like I give them the big 604 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 4: picture of it. So it's obviously sugar in those sweet sugar. 605 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 4: But then it's what we call refined carbohydrates, the stuff 606 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 4: that you break down in order to eat because that 607 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 4: turns into sugar. So what is it. It's all the 608 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 4: white stuff, so bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, all the stuff 609 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: that we love. Right, But it doesn't mean you can't 610 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 4: eat it. I don't want to make people like I 611 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: can eat, but you can. First of all, limit how 612 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: much you eat. But then you can substitute it, like 613 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 4: sometimes why don't you can eat some califer flour rice 614 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 4: Once in a while, you can eat. 615 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: Cauliflower master. 616 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 5: As a substitute. 617 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: As a substitute, it depends on ice what it helps. 618 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: But again there's still some carbs in it. 619 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 6: So what I tell people, it makes me poop clean 620 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 6: and what would make me go to the day. 621 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: But what I tell people is I'm not saying you 622 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 4: can't eat carbs. What I said tell people is, look, 623 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 4: I want you to get your carbs down less than 624 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 4: one hundred. 625 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: Think of it like this. 626 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 4: You got one hundred dollars in the atem that you 627 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: can withdraw every single day. I need you to be 628 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 4: one hundred dollars or less, so you can't overdraft. You 629 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: can't draw more than one hundred dollars. So listen, if 630 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: you give, I'll get your hundred dollars. If you want 631 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: to spend seventy five dollars on a bagel, because that's 632 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: how many carbs are in a bagel. 633 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: And you know, there's a lot of apps that you 634 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: can use it. Actually, you input what you eat and 635 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: it'll even tell you like certain restaurants. You put that 636 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: in and it'll track all of that for you. So 637 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: every day, if you can track what you're spending on 638 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: your carbs exactly, then you can stay. 639 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: Away from like potatoes. I don't really do rice bread, 640 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 5: but I like to have pasta every now and then. 641 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: And that's okay if it's every now and then. But then, 642 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 4: like what we don't know is like a lot of 643 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 4: things that have carbs, Like some people are like, well, 644 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 4: all I do is eat fruit and vegetables. I'm like, okay, 645 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 4: so what kind of fruit did you eat? They'd be like, 646 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: I eat six bananas a day, and I'll be like, okay, 647 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: So just so you know, not fruit is good. 648 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: But let's break it down. 649 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: One large banana has the exact same amount of sugar 650 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: in it as a Snickers bar, So you gotta be mindful, now, 651 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: mind you, that's about thirty to thirty five grams of. 652 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: Cars But it's a different type of sugar, right. 653 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: It's the same type of sugar. 654 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 4: The difference is that a banana and a sna bar 655 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: is different in the sense that your glycemic index, which 656 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: I'm not going to bore you about, but the bottom 657 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 4: line is that your body will metabolize the sugar in 658 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 4: the banana much more healthier, i'd say, than the one 659 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 4: in the sugars bar because it has fiber in it 660 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: and so the absorption is much lower. But the bottom 661 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: line is you still eventually are going to get those 662 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: thirty to thirty five grams of sugar. And so if 663 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 4: you were to compare a banana to berries and any berry, strawberries, bluebirds, BlackBerry, 664 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 4: any berry, a handful of berries only has nine grams 665 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: of cars so you're much better off eating berries than 666 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: you are if you're following a particularly if you're following 667 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: a low carb diet, then you are eating in a banana. 668 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 4: So it doesn't mean you can't eat a banana, but 669 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: maybe eat half of the banana. So instead of thirty carbs, 670 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 4: you're getting fifteen grams. 671 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: And how do you eat it? Do you eat it? 672 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 5: Like breaking down like that? 673 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: Wow, gizzies. 674 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: All right, well listen, doctor Romie Hint, thank you so 675 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: much for joining us today. 676 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: Again. 677 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: The book that you have out is the No Guesswork Diet, 678 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: and it's transform transformative for a lot of people. I 679 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: know a lot of people that you've helped, and so 680 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: that's why I wanted to make sure I brought you 681 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: up here, because I've been watching so many things and 682 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: reading so many different stories, and so I wanted to 683 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: get it straight from you. 684 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to just say the reason I 685 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 4: wrote this book is because there's doctors do not really 686 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 4: help us with with with weight loss. We blame it 687 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: on the patient and so but that's not what we 688 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: should be doing. So I wrote this book to take 689 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: the guest work that's why I called them no guest 690 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 4: work out of healthy living and and and to help 691 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 4: you get to a healthier weight because there's so many 692 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 4: gimmicks out there, and because doctors don't instruct you. You 693 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 4: are on late night television flipping through the channel like 694 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: I'm anna by this tummy roller. I'm gonna do it 695 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: a drink and and and it's dizzy. And so that's 696 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: why I wanted to wrect because these are facts. I 697 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: got references in the back. I'm actually in the studio, 698 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: may know, produce some do my audiobook though I'm not rapping, 699 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 4: but but yeah, so I'm in the sort of audiobook 700 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 4: will be out in about six weeks. So if you 701 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 4: know so you can, you can read it, you can 702 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 4: listen to it. So and I hope you like it. 703 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: If you do, just let us know. 704 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: And where can people find you? 705 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: They can find me on social media, although I'm not 706 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 4: on there as much as I should be at at 707 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 4: at doctor Ramik Hunt on all R A M A 708 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 4: C K Doctor And then you know I'm a part 709 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 4: of the Three Doctors. We wrote a bestseller called The Pack, 710 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 4: the New York Times bestseller. We actually and this is 711 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: public knowledge. We're actually working with CBS on a television 712 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: series for that book. 713 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: Finally, I've been waiting forever for this movie or a 714 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: series to come. So that's a male yes. And everybody 715 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: read that book, The Pact growing up. It was three doctors. 716 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: You guys were friends growing up, and you made a 717 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: pack to become doctors, and you fulfill that after overcoming 718 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: many obstacles. 719 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: I told Manor he would love you. 720 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: I was a you know, attempted murder charge and went 721 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: on to become. 722 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: A doctor, stopping. 723 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 5: You always want to bring up old stuff, right, You 724 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: always want to bring up old stoff new madeo, new 725 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 5: doctor rob me, not the old version. 726 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: The new brand better than the old brand. 727 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you being real, real real, Yes, right, 728 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: so I appreciate you and all the work that you've 729 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: been doing. 730 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: Mayo, ready for a new Mado. 731 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: That's right, I'm about to get right. 732 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 3: All right. It's the way up at Angela. 733 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: You get right, the right way 734 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: Way