1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: I have sat for thirty five years yelling at my 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: television opinions of that of athletes. For thirty five years, 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: not one of those moments or tweets or yelling at 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: the TV actually had anything to do on the impact 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: of Patrick Ewing, John Stark, Scott Fip and Dan Marino, 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady Boomerous Side. Not one human was effective on 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: this edition of Naked Gary vs. In the House Man, 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you're ready, get pen and paper, 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Get a pen and paper. We'll be right back. Every 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: champion and carvery champion is to be a champion, a 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: champion and carry champion and carry champion, a champion and 12 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: carry champion and carry champions sports and then the tam 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: making make in the world of vulnerable because the week 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: come and remove the veil from entertainment elite. It's the 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: difference tween what it's real and with the public seas. 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: So here's your favorite celebrities behind the scenes. It's refreshing. 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: Then the whole story specific life all to rend events 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: to shape the person that you here. We gotta champion, 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: they carry champion, They girl, you did it. It's the 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: greatest sports and entertain aking Naked with very champion they carry. 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: Champion is to be a champion. A champion, they carry 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: CHAPPI and they chapycott a champion, they carry Champion. They 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: carry Champion Free to sports and then the tame ak 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: and naked. Hey everybody, U when I say it's your 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: pen in your path, that means we're about to We're 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: about to give out some free game. And if you 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: want some free game, you're more than welcome. You know, 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: We're welcome to take some free game. Gary V joining 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: us on the podcast today. UM known on social media. 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: I remember I would see him everywhere organically on my 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: feed and on my timeline, and I'm like, tell me 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: more about this person, and it just so happens. I 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: ended up working with one of his subsidiaries during a 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: podcast UM called The brown Print. But here is a 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: serial entrepreneur, chairman of Honor X and the CEO of 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Varner Media. UH. People have described him as one of 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the most forward thinkers in business. He's always looking at 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: what's next, whether it's about n f T investing he's 39 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: been talking about that forever, or digital communications. He just 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: understands what will be next, what's important. How does he 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: understand that I don't know. He started off with a 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: wine company, right. So Gary was a co founder of 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: Honor Sports Ressie. I've used Rezzie before, so of you. 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: And he was able to make both of those companies 45 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: extremely successful. And you wonder what it takes to be successful, 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: or you always wonder when you see someone like him, 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: what's his energy really like? How can he be this 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: energetic all the time? And forward thinking? And this, that 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: and the third all my questions. But he has a 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: book coming out. It's called twelve and a half Leveraging 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: the Emotional Ingredients Necessary for Business Success. Um, this is 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: his six book, six thh get it out, Carrie, and 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: um it's special. I was reading bits and pieces online 54 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what really struck me. He starts 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: off the introduction and again the book is available in November, 56 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: not now, but you can pre sell pre buy. Rather, 57 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: he started off by talking are sharing a story in 58 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: which one of his investors wanted him to fire an 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: employee because the employee had made a horrible mistake. A 60 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: young employee made a horrible mistake. And Gary told this investor, 61 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: who at the time was arguably providing at least of 62 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: the money to his company. No, he says, no, I 63 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: can't do that. The CEO of the company goes, I 64 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: can't do that. I need to be able to run 65 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: my company the right way, and I wouldn't do that. 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: In short, he was saying his employee made a mistake, 67 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: and Gary arguably had every right to fire the employee 68 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: textbook wise, because the employee made a mistake, but he 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: didn't want you in the book, He writes, I had 70 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: to be able to run my own business and make 71 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: my own decisions about my employees. The executive had every 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: ability to fire us if that was what she felt 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: was necessary, but it had to be my decision what 74 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: the ramifications of that quote unquote tweet would be the 75 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: person tweeted something bad. Gary says he was mentally prepared 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: for the company to fire them, but they didn't, luckily, 77 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: and he was able to push forward. But he said 78 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: the reason why he didn't want to fire the employee, 79 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: it's because he really truly wanted to know how to 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: be kind and have empathy. Emotional intelligence is when to 81 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: know how to express certain traits for the people who 82 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: work for you and the people you lead. And that 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: was mind blowing to me. You know, why that was 84 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: mind blowing to me, because I often struggle with being 85 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: too empathetic and too kind, and then I get resentful. 86 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, dang, they're just walking all over me. I'm 87 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: too good to these people. I mean, anybody who knows 88 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: me knows me well. I'm the most generous. But then 89 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: there's another part of me that puts up a wall 90 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: because I'm tired of people taking advantage of me and 91 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: my kindness. So Gary talks about this kind candor, meaning 92 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: you can be very kind, but you have to be 93 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: extremely candid with the person who's made the mistake, like 94 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be nice to you, but I'm gonna tell 95 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: you exactly what you did and how that doesn't work 96 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: and how we need to be better. Like wow, I 97 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't even have thought of that, right, he goes, It 98 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't hold that person accountable if you're kind. 99 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: People confuse the definition of kindness with the definition of pushover, 100 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: a person who is easy to overcome or influence, and 101 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: they are not the same at all. Kindness versus being 102 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: a pushover two different things. I'm passionate about practicing kindness 103 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: to create a safe environment when delivering bad news or 104 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: having difficult conversations. Listen to that. He says, if he 105 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: didn't start developing kind candor as an emotional ingredient, resentment 106 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: would have flourished in his own age. So I say 107 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: to you, as he talks about his life and what 108 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: he's been up to and how he's been able to 109 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: be so successful, he leads with a kind candor. And 110 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: here's the big part. As a woman, the first thing 111 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: I think, well, how will they receive it? Gary could 112 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: care less because he's being kind, and he knows that 113 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: he's being kind, and he's being candid in the conversation 114 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: and the uncomfortable conversations that he needs to have with 115 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: employees or friends or loved ones. If they want to 116 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: receive it, they can. If they don't, that's on them. 117 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: And so moving forward, I promise you I love the 118 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: idea of Carrie continuing to be kind, very candid, which 119 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: I am, but remove the edge that I have because 120 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: I'll pop off. I'll pop off. But I wanted to 121 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: be sincere, and the only way that it's sincere is 122 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: that if you give the candid part of the conversation. Unfortunately, 123 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: I had to get rid of somebody on my podcast team, 124 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: and I was really sad about it, and looking back 125 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: on it, I wish I would have given this person 126 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: a heads up. I didn't know how it was going 127 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: to go down, and it happened so quickly, and I 128 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: didn't give the person a heads up. But then I 129 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: went back to talk to the person. Of course, they 130 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: don't want to talk to me. But the reality is 131 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: I was kind and I was candid, and I was 132 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: extremely empathetic the first few months. But the same things 133 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: continue to happen and happen and happen, and I'm holding 134 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: onto it because I'm like, oh, I could have handled 135 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: that better. It's a learning lesson for me, meaning I 136 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: could have been more candid in this stuff. I could 137 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: have been more candid and the conversation that I was 138 00:07:54,120 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: going to have and I didn't. I don't regret making 139 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: the decision I did, but I do know that leading 140 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: with kind candor is all one can do when they 141 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: want to be successful, and if the person receives it wrong, 142 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: that's on them. Because if my heart is in the 143 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: right place and I am being extremely kind and empathetic, 144 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: not too empathetic, not a pushover, I'm doing my job. 145 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: As a leader, as a boss, and I want to 146 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: be successful leading with emotional intelligence and hopefully some really 147 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: sage advice that can help others. Get jomp in Gary 148 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: V y'all given us free game. I reposted you the 149 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: other day. I don't I don't know if you saw 150 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: or what your social media situation is, but you're reposted 151 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: by everyone. Um, and you had a great concept. You said, 152 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: why not come up with a podcast? Or you just 153 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: ask one question you'll get it's the path of least resistance. 154 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: People will come on your podcast. I just got one question. 155 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Give me for minutes of your time. Okay, you got it, 156 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: don't ask for an hour and a half. Whatever. I'm 157 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: with you. That makes perfect sense, right, Okay, So with 158 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: that being said, I feel as if every single day 159 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: I'll listen to you, or if I if I lock 160 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: in on something you're saying. You have a great idea, 161 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: a different take, a different concept. How is one born 162 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: or evolved into what you have become someone who's just 163 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: looking at life so differently and so more so on 164 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: the extreme of how to win as opposed to being 165 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: a pessimist. That's a really really fun way to start this. 166 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: So thank you. For coming up with such a really 167 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: clever and thoughtful question. And why do I say that 168 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: You're catching me in a moment where I've been thinking 169 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: a lot about this. I am so looking at it differently. 170 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: I've come to realize, you know, you're kind of like 171 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: in your own cocoon, your own ship, You're just living life. 172 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: And you know, now I'm in that mid way point, right, 173 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: it's a nice kind of like number. I'm like man, 174 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: and I just wrote this book that's gonna come out 175 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: in November where I really go into my emotional framework 176 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: and I talk in business terms, but it's really life, 177 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: it really is. I mean, for example, just to give 178 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: everybody you know a sentence that, if they know me, 179 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: might catch them off guard. Three people my most inner 180 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: ten people friends, family, in the last three of the 181 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: ten in the last two weeks referenced I wish the 182 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: world realized how chill you were. I'm such an intense communicator, 183 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: but I'm incredibly relaxed and lack of anxiety, low key, 184 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: simple chill life liver. And so that's like, for instance, 185 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: that may confuse people because of the way I roll 186 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: and my energy and hyper and all that. Um. The 187 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: answer to the question is actually very easy. It's by 188 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: living a very weird and different upbringing. So for example, 189 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: I I'm an immigrant that lived in a household that 190 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: was Soviet because my mom was born and raised and 191 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: groomed in the Soviet Union, which meant no bullshit, but 192 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: was so outrageously loving and caring that I never like, 193 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have that upbringing where like I had to 194 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: know if somebody loved me, and that's such a challenge. 195 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: I knew I was loved heavy. I built huge self esteem, 196 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: but not with delusion. It wasn't eighth place trophies. It 197 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: was pure love, but no bullshit. I also grew up 198 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: in extremism. My dad's leapt in the same house as 199 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: me every night of my life, and I never saw 200 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: him for the first fourteen years because he worked every 201 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: minute immigrant life, right, he wanted to make it in America. 202 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: He worked two jobs. That he was a stock boy 203 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: in a liquor store, that he was a manager, and 204 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: then he owned that store. And he just worked every 205 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: goddamn minute. So you know my work ethic that I 206 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: think a lot of people talk to. It's conditioned, right. 207 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw a dad who worked fifteen, twelve, 208 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: fifteen a day hours, So it just seemed normal to me. 209 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: That is unique and different. Not everybody has that. Next, 210 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: my mom was embarrassed of her accent. Was very insulur. 211 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: We were very insulurt. And what does that mean? That 212 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: means I was a poor student. My my like, my 213 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: whole world was predicated on different ship and then on 214 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: top of everything else, I'm an eighties kid from Jersey, Jersey, 215 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: which means I went outside and I spent ten hours 216 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: a day outside, four hours a day outside, six hours 217 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: a day. And what does that mean? That means you're 218 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: being raised by your mother, but you're also being raised 219 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: by the quote unquote streets, whether that's cow pastures or 220 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: the hood. The streets the way I said, is not 221 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: the slang that we're accustomed to. It's just the outside. 222 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: It's not this hovering mother on top of everything, father 223 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: on top of everything ship. So and I'm the oldest 224 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: and I had a baby sister and go take care 225 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: of her outside. And I'm from the eighties, so he 226 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: got into street fights. You did that whole thing. And 227 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: it's Jersey, so you had so many things going on 228 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties, and so I'm very unique. 229 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: And then finally, with all those outside variables, my inside 230 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: who I am as a human born d n A 231 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: was selimonde shovel snow sell baseball cards, pure hustler garage 232 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: sales like dirt, like from the dirt, and hustler now 233 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: has like you know, a negative or positive connotation. What 234 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: it was was like scrappy entrepreneurial kid. Parents were going 235 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: to buy him things, so he wanted if he wanted something, 236 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: not that he really wanted it. I didn't want that 237 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: many things, but I wanted Nintendo. I want a genesis, 238 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: you know, And and that meant I was going to 239 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: get it. And so what that led to was a 240 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: crazy six set of consumers, human beings ring the doorbell, 241 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: know how to sell to this lady by a baseball card, 242 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: know how to sell to my friend became so of 243 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: the game that my natural empathy and with just ungodly 244 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: amounts of training from six to two of selling, selling, selling, selling, 245 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: created a consumer instincts juggernaut as a kid who has 246 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: now spent twenty three more years on top of that 247 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: refining it. And so I and then I a communicator 248 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: that it comes natural to analogies. The way I talk 249 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: very basic. It worked for me in wine. It works 250 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: for me explaining n F T S. You know a 251 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: hair of charisma and here we are a hair I did. 252 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: The only thing I disagree with is that the last 253 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: part that subject that subjective. I disagree a lot more 254 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: than a hair. Um you know it. But at the 255 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: end of the day, I still don't even being raised outside. 256 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: I understand being outside, like not outside the streets, which 257 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: is beautiful way of putting that right, but outside like 258 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: my mom was like, get outside, stay outside for eight hours, 259 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: so I come home or go play with your friends. 260 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't feel like that. They're your babysitters, not me. 261 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Everything you look at. If I said, is this color blue? 262 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: You would have a different perspective on that. If I said, 263 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: if I completely, I completely disrespected school, What why I inherently, 264 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: by third grade thought it didn't fit me and I 265 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: didn't believe they were right. How do you have that 266 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: in third grade at nine years old? Outside of being 267 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: chosen completely d NA luck in the draw to your point, 268 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's you know, honestly, I don't want 269 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: to use chosen. I do understand what it did for me. Actually, 270 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you a good one. If parents are listening 271 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: right now, don't be so quick to fix your kids corks, 272 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,119 Speaker 1: because the cork might be the thing that unlocks their happiness. 273 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: You know, I've come to learn that my reading comprehension 274 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: stinks because after about seven years of asking everybody who 275 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: sent me a long email for a five minute phone call, 276 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: I said to myself, why do I do that? Oh? 277 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, right, because I could read it three 278 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: times and still have no idea what's going on, But 279 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: on a phone call in twenty seconds, I double know 280 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: what's going on. Um, So I think my learning style 281 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: was different. You know, I didn't get diagnosed with dy 282 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: slexy or any other learning disabilities, but I know I 283 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: have them. That became my ultra superpower. We've talked in 284 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: society a lot. I'm not educated on this matter about 285 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: how entrepreneurs accelerate with dy slexy because they see ship different. 286 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: Back to what you just said, So I have a 287 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: lot of intuition that there's something going on there. I'm 288 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: incredibly caring. I really like people like easy Cary like 289 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: like like like I I'm very weird with this issue. 290 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: I am probably the most enthusiastic give love to random human. 291 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: I meant one second ago, cheer for everybody. Even if 292 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: I compete with them, all ships can rise. And completely 293 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: disgusted would be the word I use in today's society 294 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: where people feel like they have to convince people that 295 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: they're right there. It's a complete lack of empathy for 296 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: other people's conditioning. So I'm incredibly pro human, which you know, 297 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't you know? When I see you know, people 298 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: like how can you do that? Gary? Look at all 299 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: the bad humans do I'm like, I feel bad for them. 300 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: They're their upbringing brought them to that place when haters 301 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: shipped on me, I feel compassion for them. Why would 302 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: you spend a minute of your life trying to tear 303 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: somebody else down? Wow, that's a devastating framework. So a 304 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: lot of compassion and empathy. And then and then I 305 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: think I'm very truth oriented. I was raised by the market. 306 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: What I mean by that is, instead of school telling 307 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: me this is true, where I was getting validation was 308 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: selling lemonade or sports cards, are trying to sell stuff 309 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: at the flea market. I only knew the market, the market, 310 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: the customer, the what people really did. It plays out 311 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot in society now. Everyone cancels brands on social 312 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: media and then you look two months later and the 313 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: brand sales are up. People like headlines. I like truth, 314 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: and so that place I think school is much like 315 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: social media headlines. I don't think it's real. And I 316 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: intuitively to your point, how DNA luck of the draw like, 317 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: which is why I'm grateful, right, It's why I'm humble. 318 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: I know that what I just said is real. I'm 319 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: with you. The funk that I do to get there 320 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: at nine years old, that is a luck of the 321 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: DNA circumstance situation. And so because of that, the only 322 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: two years I have that drive, my energy, our gratitude 323 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: and humility. It may not seem that I'm humble because 324 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: I have so much conviction what I say, which comes 325 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: with confidence, which can be blended into ego or right. 326 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: But but I believe because I know myself and I 327 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: think the people that know me best what they're seeing 328 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: in Gary DeLand is conviction, not ego, egos insecurity with 329 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: makeup on. That's people fronting. I'm out here fucking believing 330 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: my ship carry I believe my ship. Yeah, I believe 331 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: you believe it. I believe it. I believe your ship. 332 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: I believe you. I really believe your ship. No, what 333 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I what I also want to know is because when 334 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: you have these moments, I I use the word chosen, 335 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: and I use that a lot and a lot of 336 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: people in my industry, especially with the basis of sports, 337 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: like that word. Why don't you. I don't like making 338 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: people inferior at all costs. So I'm very interesting if 339 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: you look at my content, I try to talk about 340 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: ship that can actually be done right. So when a 341 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: chosen one has talked about in sports, I think Lebron 342 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: James puts remarkable amounts of effort into who he is, right, 343 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: But I also believe that he started with a point 344 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: of physicality and athleticism that really mattered. When you talk 345 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: about stuff that people don't or can't do anything about, 346 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: it feels not productive. I'm so proud that my content 347 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: focuses on things that I think people can do something about. 348 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: And so when there's things that I believe that they 349 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: can't do something about, like I have intuitive consumer behad, 350 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: like I really just know what people think. It's weird. 351 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's the biggest reason I believe 352 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: in psychics and other things that might be on the 353 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: edges is because I don't. I'm not a psychic or 354 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: anything like that. But boy, it's weird how well I 355 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: know what people are gonna do before they know they're 356 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: gonna do it. TikTok n f t s social media, 357 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: buying things on the internet, being in love with the 358 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: new style of music, accepting people they don't accept. I 359 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: can predict. I can feel these things in me. So 360 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: the reason I don't like it is it feels not 361 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: productive to the person that's listening right now. Like, for example, 362 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: if someone's listening right now and isn't intuitive, I want 363 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: to still talk to them about things that I believe 364 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: that they could do, because to me, it's about if 365 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: you're happy, like I ad, you have a responsibility. And 366 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: this is I don't put this on anybody else, This 367 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: is me talking to myself. Hey, Gary, you're good. You 368 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: had a great mother, You had great adversity as a child, 369 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: which makes you far from soft. You You are guilty 370 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: and grateful into trying to bring as much value to 371 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: society before you leave, because you're good, and most people 372 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: aren't emotionally good. Most people aren't emotionally a hundred and 373 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm emotionally a hundred. So I want to talk and 374 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: do things. And if I'm chosen one, that's not practical 375 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: because then someone's like, well, I'm not chosen one. So 376 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: everything Gary says I can't do anything about. And I 377 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: think people fall into dwelling and lack of action and 378 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: lack of accountability, which then leads them to giving up, 379 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: and giving up means starting to blame everything else where. 380 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you can do ship. And you're also 381 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: saying everyone has intuition. So if you're saying I like 382 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: the word intuitive, right, if someone hears that, they okay, 383 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: and you're saying follow your intuition, does that work? Well? 384 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: It does. The problem is a lot of people had 385 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: such tough upbringings that they don't trust people, which means 386 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: they don't trust themselves, which means they don't have intuition. 387 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: Fear eliminates everything, c. C. If you want to talk 388 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: about something that I'm scared of, it's fear. When I 389 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: see somebody pushing fear from a politician to a parent, 390 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: to a business leader to a head coach to a manager, 391 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: to an influencer to an overprotecting mom, you know, to 392 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: the news, to social media posts. Everything that I see 393 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: that's trying to scare people I know is poison to humans. 394 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: M hm. People are scared about ship that the math 395 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. People are scared of flying, yet it's 396 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: far more dangerous to drive. People are scared of sharks. Meanwhile, 397 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: it's like you're you're, you're more, you're more trouble when 398 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: you're taking a bath that I'm short than like getting 399 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: bit by a shark. Right, So I hate fear because 400 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: it cripples people. Parents make kids do all sorts of 401 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: ship out of fear, when that means they're instilling fear 402 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: into that kid and that kids can be insecure in life. 403 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: I hate fear, and and I'm I'm empathetic to people 404 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: who don't trust their instincts because their instincts are based 405 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: on fear, because that's how they were raised. Is you 406 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: have given me a word? Can the can the church 407 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: say amen and pass this? Passed the pay the plate, 408 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: the offering plate, Gary. Because the reason why I'm saying 409 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: that is when I decided to leave ESPN, I told 410 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: no one because I didn't want them to put their 411 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: fears on me. I love you for that. I didn't 412 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: want them to tell me I love them. That's so smart. 413 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: How you can I can? I let me tell you 414 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: what's weird about me. I'm a little bit the reverse. 415 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I love the booing, I love that talk. Yeah, I'm 416 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: a little bit weird. If you know you're Jordan, go ahead, 417 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: I'm you know. I'm such a big Knicks fan that 418 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: I hate being compared to Michael Jordan's. But but, but, 419 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: but I I do have to tell you when you 420 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: know I am absolutely built on getting people to tell 421 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: me I'm gonna lose or I'm wrong. I love it. 422 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing that's more exciting 423 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: to me than to prove someone wrong. It's it's delicious. 424 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: I mean, if I was an athlete, I would I 425 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: mean when I and again it keeps happening to Nicks 426 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: because it's the garden. Like when Trey Young's doing what 427 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: he's doing, I'm like, I know what that guy's doing. 428 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: I would be doing that. I feed off that. It 429 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: makes me better, it makes me stronger, and so it's funny. 430 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: I very much love you for doing that because I 431 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: think that's a great move that humans should do. More 432 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: on the flip side. If you're lucky to have my gear, 433 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: you almost relish in it. I love when when when 434 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: I started talking to n f t s earlier this year, 435 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: the community there outside, people like, uh Gary, what the 436 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: funk like? Is this gonna be like a pump and dump? 437 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: Come in and make some quick cat like. I love 438 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: that because I know I'm gonna dominate it. I I 439 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: love that feeling. I love when people made fun of 440 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: me when I started that agency coming from wine, that 441 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: I would never win, and I stuck it to them. 442 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: That's I'm driven by that competition for sure. Well, I 443 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: like it, but I don't like it to my face. 444 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: In my mind, I knew it's being said, and I 445 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: know you're saying it, And then my mind I'm quietly 446 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: like you watch and see motherfucker. But but you you 447 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: don't take it within anger that I take it. You 448 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: take it with the challenge. Got it? See you next time? 449 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: I take you with personally angry and then I and 450 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: then I'm like, you know, revenge, you know, as opposed 451 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: to turning into something more healthy. I am too empathetic 452 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: that people always give advice based on their perspective. So 453 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: parents are always going to tell kids to take the 454 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: safe road because they're scared for their kids to fail, 455 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: mainly because half of those parents worry about what other 456 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: people say. Parents give kids advice for their own kids 457 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: based on making sure their neighbor or their sister or 458 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: their own mother doesn't say your kids sucks. And I'm like, 459 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: I don't give a ship about what anybody else says 460 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: to me. Like I don't care about the opinions of 461 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: anybody on earth, not because I'm so cool or like 462 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm so tough, it's because it has actually no impact 463 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: on my life. This is not about bravado or delusion 464 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: or trying to play a part. It's that nobody's opinion 465 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: actually has any impact in your life. But it's just 466 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: the truth. Fact that is a fact, And when you 467 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: say it that way, you feel silly for not thinking 468 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: that way. That's right. That's what I love about how 469 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: lucky I got with my communication style. I feel like 470 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: what I just said on some real ship literally just 471 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: changed one. Like I feel like eighty four people of 472 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands that eventually 473 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: will listen to this, eighty four people were just hit 474 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: by a truck. One of those eighty four is actually 475 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: gonna forever change your life. That's what motivates me to 476 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: do ship like this, Wow, because it's a hundred Like 477 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: why Like, think about all the opinions you've had about people, 478 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: the amount of picked back to your world. I have 479 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: sat for thirty five years yelling at my television opinions 480 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: of that of athletes for thirty five years. Not one 481 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: of those moments or tweets or yelling at the TV 482 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: actually had anything to do on the impact of Patrick Ewing, 483 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: John Starks, Scotti, and Dan Marino, Tom Brady, boomerous side. 484 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: Not one human was affected, and and and and yet, unfortunately, 485 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: because we are trained for outside validation. We're trained by 486 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: our parents, we are trained by society, we're trained by 487 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: school to let some even school Carrie School, a teacher 488 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: makes a subjective call and you're great, yes, because the 489 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: tests are only a part of it. Classroom participation. Well, 490 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: how many times am I supposed to raise my hand? 491 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: Fucking Mrs Johnson? Con is it? Every class? Is that? 492 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: Every third? Like? And so you see these arbitrary things, 493 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: and people fear them, like I need a good report card, 494 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: and they become of the system. Right then everyone gets 495 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: a car, who's got an expensive car, who's got a 496 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: shitty car. They look for outside validation, and we're trained. 497 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, we get into that place and people are 498 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: grown ups right now, still looking like it's fucking junior 499 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: high school outside. We're trained for outside validation. That's that's 500 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: insane to me, all right, Gary, I'm literally this is 501 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: arguably the quietest I've been on any single podcast. When 502 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: we come back more Gary V. Every champion and care 503 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: every champion has to be a champion, a champion and 504 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: carry champion, and carry champion, A champion and carry chappion 505 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: and carry champion. Raids this Boison in the say making 506 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: make it work, very champion and carry champions. To be 507 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: a champion, a champion, they carry champion, the champion. They 508 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: carry Champion and carry champion Boson in the say make 509 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: it na. Welcome back to Naked. Gary V picks up 510 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: where he left off, and like I said earlier early 511 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: on pen and paper nuggets, free game. They're giving out 512 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: free game, y'all. Gary's giving it out. I'm gonna tell 513 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: you a story that irritate you. Um, we have a 514 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: minty in common a friend of ours. Not you and I, 515 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: but a friend of ours. We have a minty in common. 516 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: She's like, should I throw a birthday party or should 517 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: I buy a house? Because the down payment on the 518 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: house would be the same as the birthday party. What 519 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: would you do? I'm gonna throw you for a curveball. 520 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: I know you can say you're going to the party. No, 521 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm saying that I need to 522 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: know more. Right, it's context. If she's very young or 523 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: he are young. She's in her thirties, she's in her thirties. 524 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if she's genuinely in her soul 525 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: happy renting for the rest of her life. I'm very 526 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: weird about the house thing. You're trained to believe you 527 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: need to own a house, and for most people it 528 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: puts them in a very peculiar financial situation because everybody 529 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: pits down the biggest down payment they can and then 530 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: they're stuck in mortgage and lease car life, and then 531 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: they don't have wiggle room to go on offense, on 532 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: investing and doing other things with their money. What about 533 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: if you, by the way, it wasn't a big If 534 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: she's throwing a party now, she's throwing a party because 535 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: she needs the flex to seem cool on the Graham. 536 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Then I want to punch her in the face. Well, 537 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: that's exactly why. But that's the only reason why, because 538 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: we're trained to be cool in that Instagram and she 539 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: only without telling all of her business. She didn't have 540 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: to put a big down payment on. So I see 541 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: your point with that, But I also believe Gary, isn't 542 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: that your way to wealth when you come when you've 543 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: never had it? Is it is owning? Your way to talk. 544 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: Your way to wealth is to have more liquid to 545 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: do things with it. When you see true opportunity for 546 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: bigger compounded value, you're locked into your house. I like it, right, 547 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean to me like, I think people 548 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: overspend on home and car, and I think it hurts 549 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: people from taking opportunities in n f T, testlas stock 550 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: or some other investment in a small business. I think 551 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: it takes them off the field. Okay, are you listening 552 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: naked listeners? Because now I feel like I gotta start 553 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: all over again. I'm kidding you know, is that what 554 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: you're saying? But it's but it's but it's right. Yeah, 555 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: people locked And I always tell my friends simply so. 556 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: I always said, almost everybody over extends themselves on the 557 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: down payment to get a slightly better house, right. I 558 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: think people should under invest under down payments so you've 559 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: got too much, right, so it looks like this, you've 560 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: saved up a d K. Most people then go and 561 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: put down like seventy eight d K on a down payment. 562 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: I think you should put down fifty, which means you're 563 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: getting a totally different house. Right. But I think that 564 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: that liquid in your bank account, lets you go them 565 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: buy Tesla stock, if you believe, lets you let you 566 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: buy an you know, three high risk n f T s. 567 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: My n f T s were two thousand dollars in May. 568 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: Now they're a hundred thousand dollars. People in my community 569 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: have made a fortune. Who the hell knew what an 570 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: n f T was. Two years ago. Everybody in their 571 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: family made fun of them for spending two thousand dollars 572 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: on a digital picture. Now I'm getting emails of people 573 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: crying they're paying their college debt. They're putting it down 574 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: like that couldn't have been possible if you're living paycheck 575 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: to paycheck to pay for your mortgage and your lexus listen. Okay. 576 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: And by the way, why do you want the Lexus? 577 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: I know why because that logo makes you have the 578 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: flex versus a Toyota even though they're the same car. 579 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: Get the same car. Okay, you talking to me. You 580 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: convicted me a little bit too. Last, but not least, 581 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: Who's winning the Super Bowl? Who's winning the NBA Championship 582 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: this year? Prediction? Well, my Lakers Nets Finals guarantee when 583 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: you and I hung out on a different show didn't 584 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: come through. So I need to be careful here. So 585 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: all right, So and I said, I said, I told 586 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: you who was I didn't know they were in a win, 587 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: but I told you I was with the Greek freak, 588 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: remember you like he is a little Yeah, you did 589 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: a great job with that. You're very good at what 590 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: you do. All right, football, We're only one weekends of 591 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: this filming. I am going to say that I am 592 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: very very bullish, but I'm gonna go on a limb here. 593 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: I feel like there's something very weird going on in Arizona. 594 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: I am very very bullish. I'm very bullish on the 595 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: NFC West. I love the Rams, the Seahawks, the Cardinals, 596 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: and I think the Niners are gonna be better, and 597 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: people think, I'm I think that's an incredibly tough division. 598 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go outlandish and I'm gonna say the 599 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna get crazy and everything's gonna click with 600 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: Kyler and the rest. So I'm gonna say Cardinals are 601 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: going to play the Chiefs. I just camp that against 602 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in the prime of his career. I like 603 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: everything you're saying right now that year this sounds solid 604 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: to me. Go ahead, and then NBA it's super early. 605 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like incredibly but but I'm gonna 606 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to the well and with Brooklyn. 607 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to the well with Brooklyn. I'm 608 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: gonna go Brooklyn Phoenix with all teams rested and healthy. 609 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: You're growing Brooklyn Phoenix, you know, rested and healthy. I 610 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: don't know if you know the the healthy just because 611 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: they're healthy. Now, like, listen, a d has gotta eighties. 612 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: You've got to be absolutely concerned at this point. There's 613 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: enough data at this point and if he's off the grid, 614 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: you've got You've got Booker is Listen, here's the best part. 615 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: The book is gonna be a Nick and that's the 616 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: best thing going on in my life right now. That's 617 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: the best thing going on in my life. I'm convinced 618 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: that that's gonna happen. And when that happens, I'm gonna 619 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: be at I'm to be completely out of your knicks. 620 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: Were your Knicks were in the front running for a 621 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of great players because they had the money. I 622 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: don't know what happened. It was a lot of great 623 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: players to telling me they were ready to be in 624 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: New York, and I was like, you know what, you 625 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: know what happened? Those same players, those same players who 626 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: I was talking to them as well, And you could 627 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: just smell it from a million miles away that it 628 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work out. And it did not work out. 629 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: You're just like I do think. I do think there's 630 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: a little bit of a culture change at the Knicks. 631 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: I do think a little bit of winning matters. I 632 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: do think that the front office relationship with the owner 633 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: is in a better place than we've had historically. And 634 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: you know, I love the way they drafted this year. 635 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I have a funny feeling I think, 636 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: and and if Kemba, you know, talk about healthy. It'd 637 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: be really interesting to see if he could do a 638 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: little something and if you have a nice season again 639 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: getting the playoffs maybe went around this year. You know 640 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: d Books coming. Look, deep Book is fame oriented. He's 641 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: fame oriented, so he's coming. He doesn't want to he 642 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: doesn't want to try to play with oh Man Lebron. 643 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: Do you think he's coming to New York? No? No, 644 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: I think to your point, there is only there's only 645 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: two other teams that could possibly get him, the Clippers 646 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: and the Lakers. But d Book is New York or 647 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: l A. It's too obvious to the way he moves. 648 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: And I will tell you that the New York Kentucky 649 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: infrastructure is absurd, and I think that D Book might. 650 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: Somebody is gonna come along like a D Book, and 651 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna want to be the guy that actually puts 652 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: New York fully back into that spot, because he's smart 653 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: enough to realize that if he does it, he is forever. 654 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: Lebron Winning in the in l A meant almost now 655 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: the number of titles mattered for Lebron, right, he needed 656 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: at for you know that mattered. But let me let 657 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: the let the New York confusion you see where I'm going. Right, 658 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: If Lebron's fourth was as a Nick, it's John Starks 659 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: is treated like loyalty and he wants zero titles. When 660 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: you when you live in New York, you're a different animal, 661 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: You're a completely different And for the Knicks, for after 662 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: all these years, that status is just like when you 663 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: look at Derek Jeter, He's on a different plane than 664 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: even right. It's just something about this city. Look there, 665 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: Let there for all the listeners. Let there be no confusion. 666 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: This country has some incredible cities. L A is an 667 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: incredible city, Atlanta has emerged as a remarkable city. Chicago 668 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: and Boston and San Francisco, these are nice cities. These 669 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: are good, solid cities on the world stage. New York 670 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: City is the epicenter of humanity. Let there be no confusion. 671 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: You can say there's things going on in Shanghai. You 672 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: could try to be bougie and talk a little bit 673 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: about like something in Europe, which would be silly. Let 674 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: there be Miami is a legit city in our country, 675 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: but like the Delta, New York is more important than Miami, Atlanta, 676 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: l A, Chicago, Boston, and Dallas combined in the net 677 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: of society, justice and look, I'm look, I feel what 678 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: you're saying, obviously is as someone who's born here, i'd 679 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: say different. But I agree with you in the sense 680 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: that there's not one person who really wants to try 681 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: to affect change and make change doesn't think that they 682 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: should be They should spend some time living in New 683 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: York City because that's where you can really make things happen. 684 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: There's nobody who Miami l a these re greets. There's 685 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: the difference. Here's the difference. It's everything that's good everywhere 686 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: else has elements in New York and then a hundred 687 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: brillion other things going on, not to mention, and this 688 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: is where Americans get confused. Can you please go to 689 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, other parts of the world. Can you please 690 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: go to India and like, go to India and try 691 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: to talk about Philadelphia or Miami. You are so right, Gary, 692 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stign that you're so r paid. I mean, 693 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: go to please go to to Hong Kong, Please go 694 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: to Amsterdam, Please go to Rio and Brazil, go to 695 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: Argentina and try to have conversations around fucking Boston. They 696 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: don't even know what. Then you're talking about no cue 697 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: New York and so and guess what, and you may 698 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: know this New York is actually deep down a basketball town. 699 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, New York City is 700 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 1: a bass when the Knicks, by the way, if nothing, 701 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: when the guard was about that, but yeah, Karen like, yeah, 702 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: the the Knicks. He had a decent season and and 703 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: the Nets have a super team, and nobody gave us 704 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: this is a Knicks town. And it was that was 705 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: solidified this year Kadie Kyrie hardened and the Knixer no 706 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: one came. People care about Julius Randall though, can I 707 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: say something Clippers ladist like I can can relate to 708 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: that like you and Clippers can be great and they 709 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: can have everything they need. No one cares, by the way, 710 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: on now it's on the flip side. Winning changes everything. 711 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 1: I threw up this weekend seeing how many Patrick Mahomes 712 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: jerseys were worn around New York City. Humans are back 713 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: to how this is a good way to wrap it up. 714 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: It's a full circle. Humans are insecure and they need 715 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: confidence from other areas. People where Patrick Mahomes jerseys and 716 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: Steph Curry jerseys in New York for the same reason. 717 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: People buy lexus is and throw parties to put on 718 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: the grab they You know, I loved when Bulls fans. 719 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: There was a lot of Bulls fans in the nineties 720 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: in New York. Go figure, Now there's none, but in 721 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: the nineties plenty of them. And I am Patriot fans 722 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: and now cheap. And they would make fun of me 723 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: because the Jets and Nicks aren't winning, and I would 724 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: look at them, you know, we'd go into like banter 725 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 1: fan talk, and finally, at some point after they're shipping 726 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 1: on me and clearly winning because their teams are winning, 727 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: I finally look at them and say, what the fund 728 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: did you have to do with it? Yeah? And so 729 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: well that I would actually be even more nasty that 730 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: Usually I would go to a point where I would 731 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: do this in fox bur a lot. You suck, you suck. 732 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: The I finally say, hey, real quick, your team is 733 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: better than my team. Now let's compare each other's lives. 734 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: Who's better in life? Me are you? And that would 735 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: usually cause emotion and sometimes punching. And the bottom line 736 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: is this. The bottom line is this. I'm going I'm 737 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: going conservative without context. I think the Nets really need 738 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: this one um and I'm a big believer in k 739 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: D's game. Yeah, I mean he did it. I mean, 740 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's a real special and I think he's 741 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get there, and I think Booker 742 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: is gonna take the next step. The Sums have a 743 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: lot of young talent, a great talent. They have a 744 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: lot of young talent, a lot of two of those 745 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: kids to no, you're right, I'm sorry. I didn't want 746 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: to interrupt you. Right. I love what they need they 747 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: need right now, though they need a little more leadership. 748 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: I love Chris and I love who he is, but 749 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: at his core, I don't It takes a certain type 750 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 1: of leader to lead those young men right, to gather them, 751 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: because you can't be afraid of who you play with. 752 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: They did, they did, They did so much this season. Right, 753 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: think about where they came from. They were, they were 754 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: the bubble darlings. But they think before. Yeah, so I 755 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: think I think they're close. They're right there, They're right there, 756 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: They're right there. I'm with you. But of course, all right, 757 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. I know you gotta go. 758 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Brooklyn Lakers. Thank you so much, Gary 759 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: V for joining us. Thank you by everyone. By I 760 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: listen blown away. My mind was blown away. I was 761 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: blown away. I was blown away. I end with this 762 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: and this is from his book that's coming out in November. 763 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: Late November. He has a chapter about kind us, the 764 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: quality of being friendly, generous, and considerate right kindness. He 765 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: writes at Wine Library, which is his company. I once 766 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: had an employee I was really close with still two 767 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of why Now, what 768 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: would you do in that situation? Y'all that if you 769 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: run a business and this employee essentially still a quarter 770 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 1: of million dollars worth the product, what would you do? Well? 771 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: Gary writes, people think kindness is an ingredient to deploy 772 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: towards people they've disappointed, hurt, upset, or put in precarious spots. 773 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: For me, is about being kind to those who have 774 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 1: put me in a difficult position. I've been kindness when 775 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 1: associates have been rude to me or fucked me over 776 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:02,720 Speaker 1: in business and two years later pretended nothing happened. Wow, 777 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: I ain't there yet, But when I do get there, 778 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: do you know the emotional freedom you have to be 779 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: successful when you're kind to people? When they do you 780 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 1: the worst. Not a pushover, but kind. Like in the 781 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: Bible it says being kind to your enemy is like 782 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 1: pouring hot coals on their head. Wow. I'm saying wow 783 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: because I'm struggling, And the pausing in my voice is 784 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: because I'm struggling with with that every day, all day. 785 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,919 Speaker 1: When people do me wrong, when people are not nice 786 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: to me, the first thing I want to do is 787 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: let them have it or pop off. But I genuinely 788 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: want to be kind to those people because they're broken, 789 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: they're hurt, they're jealous. It's always their thing. When people 790 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: are mean to you, remember it's their thing, and imagine 791 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: being kind to them in that moment. Powerful stuff. I 792 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: hope you guys really got a lot out of this. 793 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 1: I know I did. And like I mentioned to you before, 794 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: Gary V serial entrepreneur, you've probably listened to his podcast, 795 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: you probably follow him on social. This book is coming 796 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: out in late November twelve and a half. Leveraging the 797 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: emotional ingredients necessary for business success. This is again his 798 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: sixth book, and I'm with it. I'm with it. I'm 799 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: with it. Kindness, empathy, not a pushover. Taking that to 800 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: the bank. Thank you for listening to Naked Talk to 801 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: you soon.