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Speaker 1: We don't want your mock bang bang.

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Speaker 4: The people don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the people don't like It's called misophonia. They hate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people have mesophonia. You know what they do? Like this,

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Speaker 3: I got out, You got out, I went outside.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Donald, Donald left his home and came to an

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Speaker 3: Oh the photos look great. It's probably one of the

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Speaker 1: Christa's favorite band is the Talking Heads and uh, and

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Speaker 1: the Shelselo's the Police. They played police songs and then

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Speaker 3: You're worrying the league, You're burying the fucking lead Andrew

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Speaker 3: Will Farrell playing drums. Dude, I couldn't believe it. Yo,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never seen anything like it. Donald. It was

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Speaker 3: Less just fucking my fuck. I was trying to fuck

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Speaker 3: rock stars be jumping up and they'd be real close

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Speaker 1: Donald was kind of doing that without an instrument with

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Speaker 1: When he was what do you call it, Daniel, When

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Speaker 2: Ripping, its just just soloing, shredding, shredding, shredding.

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Speaker 3: Well. He's one of that. Listen, I'm gonna say this.

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Speaker 1: No, Well, I just watched you bang slam too right away,

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Speaker 3: No, you did very well. It was very nice to see.

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Speaker 1: It's Donald right it is.

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Speaker 3: They made movies about that place, bro.

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Speaker 1: They have the theater camp movie that that Ben Platt

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Speaker 1: So yeah here, yeah, yes, living legend, John Cryer.

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Speaker 1: We we we we don't often get fancy guests like you,

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Speaker 5: And I get grouped together all the time, as I'm

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Speaker 1: John, your contribution to black cinema, you can't even.

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Speaker 3: You can't even talk about it. You talk about it.

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Speaker 1: You were up, weren't you?

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Speaker 3: You and I should have been all over the Star

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Speaker 1: Oh, John, I didn't know you were a mega fan

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Speaker 7: You have a specificity, and I have breads. That's why

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Speaker 7: That's what I'm This has all been an effort to

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Speaker 1: You guys, we were very I was very bummed to

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Speaker 4: You know who was more bummed? Me and Donald. See,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And our show was produced by Lionsgate for NPC,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna go down.

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Speaker 3: Every to get this show back on the air.

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Speaker 4: I go.

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Speaker 3: I went to this party. I went to this really

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Speaker 3: and all I said, I fucking love your show. Oh

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Speaker 3: And then I have to say to him it got canceled.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's a hard business man. It's hard business because people,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't no, it's it's it's it's it's just stellar.

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Speaker 7: And and again, so and I'm happier you do that

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Speaker 4: I'm like, they gave you. Have fun with them because

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Speaker 3: Dude, Now, was this by design? Was this what you

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Speaker 4: That was not by design at all.

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Speaker 4: And Mike is Mike has the He's He's Irish in

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Speaker 7: He has that wonderful gift for language and and uses it,

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Speaker 3: Got a g got a gift for gat He does

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Speaker 7: And and he does that to the characters. And he

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Speaker 7: I don't know how many episodes you saw the show,

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Speaker 7: Nobody does that, and uh uh I you know, And

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Speaker 4: For you to for you to learn this. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 4: I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: Do you miss?

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Speaker 4: Do you miss?

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Speaker 1: First of all, we got to go way back because

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Speaker 4: I went for four summers from when I was when

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Speaker 4: This is amazing?

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Speaker 7: When I was like twelve, I did a school play

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Speaker 4: This is amazing. And I had heard for years the

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Speaker 7: That is so intense that it that it has become legend,

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Speaker 4: I never took it. My mom drove me so but

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Speaker 1: I think I took the bus but didn't know the words.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I was lucky.

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Speaker 7: I you know, my first day, this guy, this kid

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Speaker 7: know Daquin and his big thing was he'd walk around

447
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 7: shirtless and he was a little slightly overweight at the time,

448
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 7: so he would push his his breasts together and have

449
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Speaker 7: them sing songs. And he was beloved for this and

450
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Speaker 7: for many other reasons. I went up there because an

451
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Speaker 7: old friend of mine had told me about the camp

452
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 7: and he was there. But he, the other friend, was

453
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 7: just there because there were so many girls there, because

454
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Speaker 7: it was the girls to boys ratio was ridiculous.

455
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Speaker 1: So if you especially when you factor in being a heterosexual,

456
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Speaker 1: because there were a lot of young boys who already

457
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Speaker 1: knew that they were gay. And so if you if

458
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Speaker 1: you were straight and you were there, you were kind

459
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Speaker 1: of like Phonsie.

460
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Speaker 7: Yes, exactly, you were instant Phonsie. That is the perfect town.

461
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 7: You were instant Phronsie. And so you would go from

462
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Speaker 7: being the dorkiest goofball at your.

463
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Speaker 4: School to instant Phonsi.

464
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Speaker 3: Yes.

465
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Speaker 1: The magic by the way, if this was a place

466
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Speaker 1: where this was a place where forget lacrosse and football,

467
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Speaker 1: if you could sing and turn a joke, you were

468
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Speaker 1: the coolest.

469
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, in fact, if you did the volleyball

470
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Speaker 4: I was like, what are you doing here?

471
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Speaker 6: You know?

472
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Speaker 4: They wanted nothing to.

473
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Speaker 3: Do with you, you know.

474
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Speaker 1: So it was I told this, I think on the

475
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Speaker 1: podcast before when my father when I told my father

476
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Speaker 1: I was going. And don't get me wrong, he was

477
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Speaker 1: very supportive of theater. But he read about the camp

478
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 1: up and he's like, well, I guess you don't need

479
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Speaker 1: to bring a mint.

480
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Speaker 7: Well, it was funny because we did have there was

481
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Speaker 7: a ah, you know, there was a camp next door

482
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Speaker 7: and that was the the camp for weight uh management

483
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Speaker 7: next door uh and and we did have occasionally have

484
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Speaker 7: softball games with them, uh and all of our their

485
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 7: campers would play our counselors because none of our actual

486
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 7: campers could play. So it's so embarrassing, and we would

487
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Speaker 7: just get hammered. We would just get absolutely hammered in

488
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 7: the softball games, you know. And it was very meatballs.

489
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Speaker 4: If you call that movie.

490
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Speaker 1: We've discussed this it like, wait me, Ted John, was

491
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Speaker 1: it there? Did you get scouted there? How did you say?

492
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: Way then in just starting to become a professional actor.

493
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Speaker 7: No, that was still like your generation of stage dorians,

494
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 7: UH was a little bit later than mine. And that

495
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 7: was when scouts started coming up. The Scouts didn't really

496
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 7: come up yet at that point. No, my my generation

497
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 7: was the first to do the Our Time Cabaret. Now,

498
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 7: just so you understand this, to people who are not

499
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Speaker 7: familiar with.

500
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Speaker 1: Planing to our audience, who would have no when I

501
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: think about what this is, they would have no idea

502
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: what the hell is?

503
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Speaker 7: Our Time Cabaret was a select group of students, so

504
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 7: they would take they would take the elite, the creme

505
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 7: de la creme of the camp.

506
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Speaker 3: Uh.

507
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 7: They would teach us some musical theater numbers that were

508
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 7: incredibly pretentious for eleven year olds to be doing and

509
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 7: inappropriate frankly some of them, and then we would go

510
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 7: perform them at at local at the Pines and at Kutcher's,

511
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 7: at all the local borsch Belt hotels resorts, they have

512
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 7: resort hotels with huge theaters Terry Lodge exactly exactly. But yeah,

513
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 7: so what what was funny about it was the the

514
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 7: you know, it would be the elite of the elite

515
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 7: of the camp and you wanted to be a part.

516
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Speaker 4: Of the Our Time cab It was like making varsity

517
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 4: for those of you the sports. Yes, yes, thank you,

518
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 4: for translating to normal people.

519
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, normal non theater geeks.

520
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: So there was all this drama about our time caver.

521
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 4: You know, it's everybody. Everybody was always jockeying to get

522
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Speaker 4: into it.

523
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Speaker 7: But the funny thing was when you actually did go

524
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Speaker 7: to perform a most of these resorts had been there

525
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 7: for a long time and were so long past their

526
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 7: heyday that the audiences were literally.

527
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 4: On life support. Would we pulled up at one point

528
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 4: to the pines and there's literally an ambulance.

529
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Speaker 3: You know, giveing it clear in the driveway as we're

530
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Speaker 3: pulling up.

531
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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember, I remember reading downstage at the

532
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Speaker 1: end of a number like out of breadth, like you know,

533
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: with my arms out wide, and a woman leans in.

534
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: No one in the audience was under eighty, and she goes,

535
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: you're doing a wonderful job.

536
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 3: Yes, oh god.

537
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Speaker 7: And it was so funny because you know, again this

538
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 7: was so sought after, but when you actually were performing,

539
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 7: you were performing for very very elderly people in sparse audiences,

540
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 7: you know, because you know, again these hotels were kind

541
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 7: of past their their prime.

542
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: Well, and also some of the people were at Bingo.

543
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, actually the.

544
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Speaker 7: First time it was great because the very first time

545
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 7: we were sort of an experimental program. The first time

546
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Speaker 7: we did you know, the first time they invited us

547
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Speaker 7: to the Pines, they didn't have us perform in their

548
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 7: very large theater.

549
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Speaker 4: They had us perform in the bar.

550
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Speaker 7: Now, you have not lived until you're huffing and puffing

551
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 7: and putting out your you know, gotta dance. And it's

552
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 7: bar patrons who are who aren't even facing you, they're

553
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 7: facing the bar, and so they every now and then

554
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 7: they'll just turn around.

555
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: Like and the outfit, by the way, was the outfit

556
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: was tuxedos. I don't know.

557
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 4: It was black and white.

558
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: It was black and white and like a red cumber bun.

559
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: Yes, hold on, now, did you have to provide said tuxedo.

560
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had to bring a tux.

561
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: So you had to bring a tuxedo just in case

562
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: in the hoods.

563
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 1: Yet a lot of kids brought their tuxedo, didn't make

564
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: varsity and brought it home.

565
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Speaker 7: So the crazy thing is, I mean, our time has

566
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 7: has remained, it's still it's still they still do they

567
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 7: still do they still do it?

568
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: It is still highly sought after, But do they still

569
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 3: do it at the Pines?

570
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 4: I know the pines doesn't exist any cutchers.

571
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Speaker 1: I think they. I think they still do it now.

572
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: There was a documentary made about this camp. You can

573
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Speaker 1: I forgot what the doc is called. Joell, maybe look

574
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: that up for me. And then and then, I don't

575
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: know if you saw Ben Platt's movie John, which was

576
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: I did inspired by Yeah.

577
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Speaker 4: Which was great. It was really fun and wonderful.

578
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 7: And actually, you know, obviously it has changed since I

579
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 7: went there back in you know, nineteen seventy nine or eighty,

580
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 7: and obviously the new stuff going on is equally wild

581
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 7: and bonkers. No, there was actually another movie called Camp

582
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 7: that was done by Kendrick. Yes, Anna Kendrick. It was

583
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 7: one of her first movies.

584
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: But those that Camp was actually made by the people

585
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: who created the Camp too though, wasn't it enough?

586
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: They went there.

587
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 4: There's people that went there, got it, got it? Yeah,

588
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: And it was shot there, and there's just and there's

589
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: my favorite moment in the in the camp.

590
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry to interview. Joel's telling me that the name

591
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: of the doc is actually called Stage Door. Okay, so

592
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: it's easy to find. But so there's been there's been

593
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: three films. There's the Ben Platt recent one which is

594
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: a spoof but inspired by Then there's one called Camp

595
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: with the Hanna Kendrick, and then there's a dock called

596
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: stage Door. I recommend you check them out. I don't

597
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: I don't think any of them actually fully captured my experience,

598
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: although they're all they're all entertaining.

599
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: But yes, well, what how did what? What did you

600
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 4: come away with?

601
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: Well, most importantly I came away with just knowing that

602
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: I had that I knew what I wanted to do

603
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: with my life. And and also I wasn't an era

604
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: where scouts started to come up, and so I had

605
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: a manager. You probably remember Gene Fox.

606
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 4: Yes, I absolutely heard of Gene Fox.

607
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: And so back in the day, she was a Because

608
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: we have a lot of friends in common, like Josh

609
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: Charles and and others who went there high. Yeah, so

610
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: Josh was up there and Josh Gott did Poet Society

611
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: I think around that time. So he was one of

612
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: those people that was like, oh my god, like, look

613
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: what it can happen if if things line up for

614
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: you at stage Door. That's what happened to me is

615
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: I started going auditions as a kid in New York

616
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: City at like you know, fourteen, I started to actually

617
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: go on real auditions. When did you How did you

618
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: start going on auditions?

619
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 7: I started going on auditions. You see, this is where

620
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 7: nepotism comes in. This is where we start having the nepotism.

621
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 7: I am sort of a nepo baby in that, like

622
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 7: I got I got a break. I mean, I had

623
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 7: been studying at a sage or manner over the summers

624
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 7: and during the winters, I worked as an usher at

625
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 7: a theater called Equity Library.

626
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: Theater, which was on one hundred and third Street in

627
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: Riverside Drive, and.

628
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 7: So I saw a million shows and I was really

629
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 7: steeped in the whole thing. But I didn't get like

630
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 7: an actual chance to audition until my mom and I

631
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 7: were walking down the street and we ran into an

632
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 7: actor named Peter Ritra who was an understudy in Torch

633
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 7: Song Trilogy, and he said, Hey, have you auditioned for

634
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 7: Torch Song Trilogy? Because there was a young actor named

635
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 7: Matthew Brodrick who had been who had who had just

636
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 7: looked the World on Fire because he was so great

637
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 7: in Torch Song Trilogy and they needed somebody to replace him.

638
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 7: And I was like, sure, I'd love to audition and

639
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 7: a friend of my mom's who was a manager. He

640
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 7: actually was a lighting designer, but he decided he wanted

641
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 7: to try to be a managed and he said, well,

642
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 7: I can get you in another audition. Let's get you

643
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 7: an audition for Brighton Beach Memoirs, which Matthew Broderick was

644
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 7: also in. And I auditioned for both of them in

645
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 7: the course of two days and out of and mostly

646
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 7: because I resembled him. I think I got both of

647
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 7: them on the same day. My god, wow, which was nuts,

648
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 7: But I honestly believe it had a lot to do

649
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 7: with that.

650
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: I just resembled him so strongly.

651
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: Uh would even have to change minimizing it.

652
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Dude.

653
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Matthew Broderick at that era was the guy on the

654
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean I saw all of those Neil Simon plays

655
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: with my father, and he was as you.

656
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: Saw Matthew Broderick on Broadway.

657
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: I saw Matthew Broderick do those Neil Simon plays that

658
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: were Brighton Beach Memoirs, blocks he blues Roadway. This was

659
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: before he became a giant movie star. He was the

660
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: Broadway young Jewish. I don't know if he's Jewish, but

661
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: that's sort of he's Jewish, Jewish, young character Jewish. He

662
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: was here was the Leo DiCaprio of Neil Simon broad

663
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: of it.

664
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: But he was amazing.

665
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 7: I mean, Brighton Beach Memoirs is a as a it's

666
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 7: a really long show. I mean it's like two and

667
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 7: a half hours, and it was mostly him. It's mostly

668
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 7: told from his point of view with the he has

669
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 7: these enormous monologues and uh and and he was just

670
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 7: just incredible and uh, you know. So that was my

671
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 7: My first job was being his understudy in Brighton Beach.

672
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: Wow.

673
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 4: And you got to go on no, well, yes, I

674
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: got I got fired.

675
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 7: I was I was his understudy for six weeks and

676
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 7: understudy rehearsals.

677
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: I don't have you have you guys understudy stuff.

678
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 7: It's it's a it's a it's a different skill because

679
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 7: you're you're trying to sort of take the person's place

680
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 7: but not you know, and make it your own, but

681
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 7: also do what the other people need to get from

682
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 7: that they get from the other guy, you know.

683
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 4: So it's a little bit tricky. In my case.

684
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 7: They only rehearsed understudies twice a week. You only got

685
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 7: two days of rehearsal. So after six weeks, I was

686
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 7: still struggling because I'd only had twelve days of rehearsal.

687
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 7: It was huge part, huge part, and you didn't rehearse

688
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 7: with the main guys. You rehearse with the other understudies

689
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 7: who are sometimes doubling people, so they you know, you know,

690
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 7: they were you know, they would sometimes play two parts

691
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 7: or whatever. And so basically I, you know, after six weeks,

692
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 7: Matthew won the Tony for Best Actor, and I remember,

693
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 7: you know, hearing his name get announced and going, oh shit,

694
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 7: because now I was understudying a guy who like when

695
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 7: you see when whenever you go see a show and

696
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 7: you open your program and there's a blow in card

697
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 7: saying tonight the role of better but will be played

698
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 7: by blah blah blah blah, you go, oh if the

699
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 7: person that is being replaced just won the freaking Tony.

700
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 7: So I was not looking forward to that. And we

701
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 7: had my next rehearsal with Gene Sacks, the director, and

702
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 7: I had to yell line a couple of times because

703
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 7: it's an enormous part.

704
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: It's like flipping Hamlet.

705
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 7: And the next day I get a call from my manager,

706
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 7: the guy who used to be a Lightning designer. And

707
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 7: he said, hey, instead of going to rehearsal, why don't

708
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 7: you come down to my office. And I was like, uh,

709
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 7: I have to be at rehearsal. And he said, you know,

710
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 7: you don't, Just get down here and I'll you know,

711
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 7: we'll we'll talk about it ice cream exactly. And I

712
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 7: came in and he was crying and he said, I

713
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 7: don't know how to tell you this, but they they

714
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 7: fired you, and and but crazy, crazy, crazy coincidence though,

715
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 7: that day Fisher Stevens gave them notice on Torch Song

716
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 7: that he had to leave Torch Song Trilogy.

717
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: At that point.

718
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 7: And so I get my manager got a call saying, hey,

719
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 7: is John Crier available to take over in Torch Song?

720
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

721
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: Wow, So so that you didn't you didn't even get

722
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: one day to be sad?

723
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: I know, I got. I managed to be sad. I

724
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: managed to be sad that day.

725
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I mean, yeah, well that's a

726
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: blow to your ego, right, yeah, of.

727
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: Course, what did you What did you take from that?

728
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: You think?

729
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, because that's fucking humbling as hell when you're

730
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: especially I mean for anyone, but especially when you're beginning.

731
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I took from it that that I did not

732
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 7: prepare well enough, which I really I didn't. I really

733
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 7: felt like I should have. I could have spent a

734
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 7: lot more time working on it, and I should have

735
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 7: for for that, for that run in front of the director,

736
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 7: there's no excuse for me to be yell in line ever, frankly,

737
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 7: that that's that can't happen on the night I can't

738
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 7: be you know, I got to be ready and I wasn't.

739
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: Uh and and so you know that's fair, that's fair

740
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: to fire me for that.

741
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: Wow.

742
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna do commercial break because we do

743
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: that here, and when we come back, we want to

744
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: talk about Pretty in Pink, one of Donald Faison's favorite films.

745
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: Dude, it's one of the things that changed my life.

746
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll be right back.

747
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: That was amazing.

748
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Donald, tell John how much Pretty in Pink means to you.

749
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: You probably told him, but.

750
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: Told him tell them listen. Okay, So, as a kid,

751
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: I started going to private schools, and in private schools,

752
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: you know, as a black dude in freaking private schools,

753
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: you get you know, not really you know, you're not

754
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: necessarily the most popular kid. In school, you know what

755
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: I mean. And I needed an identity, you know what

756
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: I mean, because all of the identities that I had

757
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: before that worked in you know, wherever I was, it

758
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: wasn't working. And I saw pretty in pink, and I

759
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: saw Ducky and I was like, that's my fucking identity,

760
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: So how did you adopt it? Well? Then at the

761
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: same time, a different world was coming on too, and

762
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: Dwayne Went and Ducky were kind of like the same

763
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: fucking character, you know what I mean, but just one

764
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: was black and one was white, you know what I mean.

765
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: But both were having a hard time fitting in and

766
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: couldn't really figure out you know. You know, they knew

767
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: they loved one person, though they knew they had one

768
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: person that they could love and uh and so. And

769
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: for me, it was the arts, you know what I mean.

770
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: I wanted to be an actor so bad and it

771
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: was to be around all of these fucking great you know.

772
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: Macaulay Culkin went to my school. Holly Marie Comb, who

773
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: was acting at the time, was at the school. Jerry O'Connell,

774
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: who was the fact kid from Stand By Me, he

775
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: was at the school. K Malcolm Jamal Warner tippus. But

776
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 3: all these motherfuckers were at the school, right and I'm like,

777
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: I got to fit in somehow. And Ducky John was

778
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 3: the fucker that I mean, the man was the guy.

779
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of people, i mean, Donald's

780
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: being totally genuine. I'm sure there's a lot of kids,

781
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: young men who who's sort of felt like they saw

782
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: themselves in that card. Did you have you heard that?

783
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure throughout your.

784
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 7: Own oh yeah, oh yeah, and it and it spans

785
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 7: the spectrum. I mean there's a lot of a lot

786
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 7: of lot of gay kids have come up to me saying, yeah,

787
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 7: that that's you know, I just assumed Ducky was gay,

788
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 7: And mostly it's somebody who has this weird, fun misplaced courage.

789
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 6: You know.

790
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 7: He he had this, you know, he sort of lived

791
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 7: out loud, even if you know the world didn't didn't

792
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 7: give him that respect, you know, And I think that's

793
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 7: what people gravitate to. The character that was he was

794
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 7: really the person I wanted to be in high school.

795
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 7: I was not brave enough to be Ducky in high school.

796
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: I was not in any you know.

797
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 7: I remember once it was freezing cold, I mean New

798
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 7: York gets bitterly cold, and I used to have to

799
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 7: walk across the projects to get to the C C

800
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 7: line on the train because I used to go to

801
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 7: Bronx High School of Science and and I remember it

802
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 7: was freezing cold, and I had some leg warmers that

803
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 7: I had had from from a dance class, so I

804
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 7: put on my leg warmers because damn it, my legs

805
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 7: were freezing. I got to school with my leg warmers

806
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 7: on and they never they for for three years. I

807
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 7: was leg warmers to everybody, and so I dressed nondescript

808
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 7: for the rest of my time at that school. And

809
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 7: he was He was who I wanted to be, and

810
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 7: I think that resonated so to have the courage.

811
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, I remember there was a one that I

812
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: knew of, one out gay kid in my high school.

813
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: And I think back to the incredible courage. I mean

814
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: this was this was ninety three to ninety seven, and

815
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: it was so must have been so hard for him.

816
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: But I think back now when I go, gosh, the

817
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: courage that this kid had. Yeah, and that's that's kind

818
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: of reminding me what you're what you're talking about, just

819
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: being being unabashedly himself.

820
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, because because the seventies and eighties were an interesting

821
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 7: period because you'd had Stonewall, so the gay community was

822
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 7: coming out and proud of it, and it was yeah,

823
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 7: and it was a big part of culture, but there

824
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 7: was still like you could see Revenge of the Nerds

825
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 7: where they clearly wanted you to to to empathize with

826
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 7: this gay character, but they're super duper making fun of

827
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 7: them at the same time, you know, and we and

828
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 7: I remember, you know, it was you know, because I

829
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 7: was in the theater, everybody you know, that was that

830
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 7: was the go to epithet when people were trying to

831
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 7: insult me. Was you know, there's some homophobic slur, you know, uh,

832
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 7: and and we and but but part of but because

833
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 7: we were in the theater, we kind of felt we

834
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 7: were of.

835
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: Gay culture because that's gay culture is such a big

836
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 4: deal in the theater.

837
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: By the way, I wanted to you probably have this

838
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: in common with me too, is that like all the

839
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: young people that were my mentors were all or predominantly

840
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: gay men, whether they be the teachers at the camp

841
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: or the counselors, or or older kids at the camp,

842
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: or then you get into theater and there was so

843
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: so many people Michael Larson. Of course.

844
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you grew up in New York or that

845
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: in the theater community, from teachers to students to best

846
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: friends like all this this was what you especially in

847
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: New York, especially in Midtown Manhattan where I grew up.

848
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 3: It this was it was a part of the community

849
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, but you know you better not be

850
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: one of them.

851
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I know it was. It retain that stigma.

852
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, and guys, guys who weren't gay, you know, still

853
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 7: often felt the need to prove that they weren't, you know,

854
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 7: And so it was so it was an odd period

855
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 7: because I remember, you know, we would we would sort

856
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 7: of make fun of the homophobic slurs, but also you know,

857
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 7: we're we're still using them, you know. So America had

858
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 7: had had a lot of learning to do.

859
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: So what was that like, John, when you when that

860
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: movie became such a hit for you, I mean, how

861
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: did your life change in day to day?

862
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 7: For me, it was interesting because I didn't perceive that

863
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 7: I would be super duper famous. Actually, the moment I

864
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 7: noticed that I sort of had a tiger by the

865
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 7: tail was I went to see The Breakfast Club, which

866
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 7: was which we had not started shooting pretty in pink.

867
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: But The Breakfast Club came out and I went to

868
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 4: see it, and it was a packed.

869
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 7: Audience, and at the end, the audience just erupted in

870
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 7: this ovation and I thought, oh my gosh, I guess

871
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 7: I'm in the I'm in the next one of these things,

872
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 7: you know, And it was like no pressure.

873
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you closed the movie so properly too, though,

874
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 3: if we could get to.

875
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: It, well, but so so I didn't.

876
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: I did love.

877
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 7: I had always been like my sister. I had always

878
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 7: admired my sister's social skills, Like she could go out

879
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 7: to a club and she knew how to get in,

880
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 7: she knew the bouncer, she talked to people.

881
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: She you know, she had a real nightlife.

882
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 7: And I always thought, oh wow, it must be amazing

883
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 7: to have like a nightlife, have like a social life

884
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 7: that way. And so once the movie came out, I

885
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 7: was like, I can get into clubs finally, you know,

886
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 7: uh and uh. And I did like that, and I

887
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 7: did like feeling like I had a place in the world,

888
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 7: like I wasn't just like that guy in the you know,

889
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 7: because invariably you would go with a bunch of friends

890
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 7: to a club and they'd say, Okay, you could come.

891
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: In, you can come in, but not you, and that

892
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 4: would be a big finger as me.

893
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: And it's funny to say that because I kind of

894
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: I kind of had a similar experience with Donald. I

895
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about going to a nightclub or getting

896
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: into a nightclub. And Donald, you know, by the time

897
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: we did Scrubs was was dialed in and new people.

898
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: And then he brought me and I was.

899
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: Like a whole new world, don't you eyes.

900
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 7: And I did like that, you know, women were into

901
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 7: me out of nowhere, you know, which was kind of fun.

902
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 7: I remember I met this.

903
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 4: One, this woman named Dawn. She worked at a casino.

904
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 4: She was the baccarat dealer. But she talked really slowly.

905
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 7: And she's beautiful, and I remember I was like, oh,

906
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 7: I got a shot with Dawn and it did not

907
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 7: work out. I do remember liking that women felt they

908
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 7: knew me right away, that I had an entree with women.

909
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: Believe me, I blew it. I blew it anyway, I wasn't.

910
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: I still you know, it didn't didn't make me particularly

911
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: good at the dating thing, but but I I you know,

912
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: I did appreciate that socially. It made me feel a

913
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: lot more comfortable.

914
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that feeling where the literally I had

915
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: been in movies before. I guess not a lot of

916
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: people had seen them. But I remember when Clueless came

917
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: out the week before, I was at this club and

918
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: it was called Essos. I'll never forget this, and I

919
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: tried to dance with this girl. I was like, you

920
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: want to dance and she was like, no, it turns

921
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: her back in everything. Oh two weeks later, I'm back

922
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: at Essos, Clueless has come out. Same girl comes up

923
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: to me, Now you want to dance, and I remember

924
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: being like, this is your chance to be like no,

925
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: but I thought she was so hot and I was like,

926
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: oh yeah, let's dance. I was like, I wanted it

927
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: with changed. I remember thinking, this is how naive I was.

928
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: I wanted it would change. It must be, you know,

929
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: And it was. It was the clueless.

930
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Do you remember when Donald Donald and I were at

931
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: the club once And this was early on, and this

932
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: was in the era of I mean, I'm saying this

933
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: so nerdily, and this is in the era because I

934
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: don't go to night clubs anymore, but women were backing

935
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: their things up, right, Donald, Yes, so it was it

936
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: was an era where the woman would kind of like

937
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: back her booty up, and like, I don't know, I

938
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: haven't been to a club. I don't know, Joelle. Do

939
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: you know if people are still backing their things up?

940
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: They definitely are, Zach, they are, they're backing.

941
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 4: Thank you, Joel, thank you.

942
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 7: I back up my desktop computer, That's what I back

943
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 7: up because I have good habits.

944
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: We haven't been to the club in a while. I

945
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: just didn't know if people were still backing their things up.

946
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: Definitely, they're, they're they're they're popping.

947
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: It and okay, all right, So this is what happened

948
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: to me, Joelle. The women are coming up to me

949
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: and they're backing their things up to my to my

950
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: groin area, and I don't know what to do. And

951
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: I and I look over to Donald, like how do

952
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: you handle this?

953
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 3: What's this? This is legit, this is legit, this is real,

954
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 3: this is legit.

955
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: And I looked over to Donald and he was like

956
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: my coach. He was like my cool guy coach. Because

957
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: Donald was super cool at the club.

958
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: You can imagine at this point, clueless is like years

959
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: I had done remember the Titans. By this point, I'd done.

960
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: I was well in effect mode.

961
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: At this point, Donald was dialed in at the club

962
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: and knew how to handle when women back their things up.

963
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: So I said what do I do? And he said,

964
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: you got to swing with it.

965
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: They said, you gotta ride it, buddy, you gotta ride.

966
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: You need this gesture where like you like just gently

967
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: hold the hips and then you just ride with it.

968
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, I can't believe. But then and

969
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: then and then and then like cut, cut, cut, till

970
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: like an hour later. He looks over and I'm like like,

971
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: I look, I'm doing it.

972
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm doing it.

973
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 6: Yo.

974
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: Now Yo, I'll never forget. I'll never forget this though.

975
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: Flash forward about six seven years into the game. We're

976
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 3: out and about I think we're at Sundance or some

977
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: ship like that, and he's dating a girl at the

978
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: time and she's backing a thing up on him and

979
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: he looks over at me and he's doing this thing

980
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: he's riding, and his face that he made is like, yeah,

981
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: you remember where we started.

982
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 4: The student has become the master.

983
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: Yes, Donald taught me how to just ride it. Just wow,

984
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: that's funny. Yeah, So John, I wanted to ask you too,

985
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: because you've had, like Donald and I like so many,

986
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Like every actor, you've had some you've had ups and downs,

987
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: You've had, you know, shows that didn't go and then

988
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: of course we'll get to the fact that you've then

989
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: got one of the biggest sitcoms of all time, Two

990
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: and a half Men. You know, I'm sure we have

991
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: a lot of I know we have a lot of

992
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: actors and people in the business who listen. What is

993
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: your advice or anything, any thoughts you have on how

994
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: to ride that wave of because Donald and I have

995
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: experienced it some some some years everything's on some years

996
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: everything's on fire, and some years you're like, God, I

997
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: fucking suck, and then all of a sudden you get

998
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: two and a half Men, and your life changes forever.

999
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 4: Yes, what I try to do is enjoy how stupid

1000
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: the business is and how unfair it is, because it's ridiculous.

1001
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: You and I know we've all been there.

1002
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 7: You know, we've seen you know, there was people in

1003
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 7: stage where people in other you know places that I've

1004
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 7: been where you just go, oh my god, that person

1005
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 7: is a monstrous talent. If this business was fair in

1006
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 7: any way, this person would be Daniel Da Lewis, you know,

1007
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 7: and and then it just doesn't happen for some reason,

1008
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 7: you know, and you're like, aw I you know, so

1009
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 7: I try to enjoy how entertaining and dumb the business is.

1010
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 7: I do love connecting with audiences, and I try to

1011
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 7: remember that that's that's the payoff is is that you

1012
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 7: get these opportunities to connect with audiences. And when you

1013
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 7: get in a hit, it's just getting more people to

1014
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 7: connect with, you know. And then you got to you

1015
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 7: got to treat that with some respect. Like when people

1016
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 7: come up to you in the supermarket, you know, this

1017
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 7: is somebody who had a connection with you and felt

1018
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 7: like they and you know that there that your work

1019
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 7: touched them, and and you know what, respect that and

1020
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 7: and and be grateful, you know. So so I I

1021
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 7: try to come at everything with gratitude and and yeah,

1022
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 7: you know, I had been when when Two and a

1023
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 7: half Men came up, I had been through three years

1024
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 7: of getting.

1025
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 4: A week of work. I had had two weeks of work.

1026
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 7: I did an episode of the Practice, and I think

1027
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 7: I did an episode of Becker. You remember Becker, the

1028
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 7: ted dance and show. So in three years, I did

1029
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 7: two weeks of work total, and I and I because

1030
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 7: I had done I did the famous teddy Z, which

1031
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 7: was a show for CBS, which tanked after half a season.

1032
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 7: I did a show called Partners for Fox, which lasted

1033
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 7: a whole season and then tanked. And then I did

1034
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 7: a thing called Getting Personal for Fox. Uh and and

1035
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 7: that one tanked after a season. So I got known

1036
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 7: as the guy who you know had his shot. But

1037
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 7: but that nobody so frustrated saying do you get like

1038
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 7: I do, and go, oh, I've lost it?

1039
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: I suck?

1040
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: What am I doing? Yes?

1041
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: And I and and you start to go, wow, I

1042
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 4: have no real skills. What can I do? Can I teach?

1043
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 5: You know?

1044
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: Maybe I can know?

1045
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: You know what?

1046
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 5: What?

1047
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: What can I you know what? Really, I'm I got

1048
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: to look at what where am I going to go

1049
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: from here?

1050
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 5: You know?

1051
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 4: And that happened.

1052
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 7: But I did an interesting thing that I that uh

1053
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 7: remember there. It doesn't exist as much anymore. But there

1054
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 7: was pilot season where there was just this onslaught of

1055
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 7: projects and uh, and everybody was auditioning for the same stuff,

1056
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 7: and you know, people were dropping right and left. You know,

1057
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 7: oh he got that show, Oh he got or she

1058
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 7: got that show. You know and you're and it was

1059
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 7: just like a stampede. It was a stampede of actors

1060
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 7: and jobs and agents and it was madness. And one

1061
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 7: year I decided, after three years of you know, almost

1062
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 7: no work, and it was really starting to hit me financially,

1063
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 7: I decided that I would audition for everything. I was

1064
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 7: auditioning for everything, whether I was right for it, whether

1065
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 7: I wasn't right for it, I just said, I got

1066
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 7: to get in the room with people and show them

1067
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 7: I can do this and have fun with it. And

1068
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 7: I auditioned, and that particular pilot season it was crazy.

1069
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 7: I auditioned for like this not good science fiction show,

1070
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 7: got offered a small part in it, turned it down,

1071
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 7: got got offered another thing wildly inappropriate for me, but

1072
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 7: got offered it, turned it down. And I and what

1073
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 7: I did was I ended up getting nine offers my

1074
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 7: Violet season that I just kept turning down, and the

1075
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 7: last two were Two and a half Men and Battlestar Galactica.

1076
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh came a huge show which became a

1077
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 8: huge hits both yes, one huge like get the fuck

1078
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 8: out of here hit, like yeah shit hit, then another

1079
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 8: one in its own right Man oh no, Battle Fi is.

1080
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 7: One of the best science fiction television series in the

1081
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 7: history of television.

1082
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: But what I love about so you did, what do

1083
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: you think when you look back shifted because all of

1084
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: a sudden you've got nine offers.

1085
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, well what it did. What it was was I

1086
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 4: started small.

1087
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 7: I I just started like it was it was blood

1088
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 7: in the water, because there's there's nothing sexier that they

1089
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 7: can hear.

1090
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 4: Then no, once you say no I don't want that,

1091
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: they want you even more.

1092
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 7: And so when I did, when there was that that

1093
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 7: first little part that I said no to, They're like

1094
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 7: what and they wanted to They wanted to reboot Courtship

1095
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 7: of Eddie's Father, and I was like, I was like, Nope,

1096
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 7: that's not for me. Well partly because the script wasn't

1097
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 7: wasn't there. But I turned that down and I I

1098
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 7: you know, and and there was just you know, it

1099
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 7: made people excited about me again because.

1100
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 4: I was turning things down and desperate.

1101
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: Bro. Yes, I didn't seem desperate.

1102
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: I was desperate.

1103
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: I just didn't seem like it.

1104
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: It has so much ado with your mindset. I mean,

1105
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: I know that's that sounds obvious, but I I I

1106
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: came out. Donald and I owned did this workshop. Not

1107
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: the separate from each other, but we both did this workshop. No,

1108
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: the landmark form was a It was a workshop that

1109
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: Donald and I both did as young people. I did

1110
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: in my early twenties. Anyway, it was such a powerful

1111
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: boost for me. I came out and on the Monday,

1112
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: I had four auditions, I got three call I got

1113
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: three callbacks on them, and and nothing had changed other

1114
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: than my mindset and and and what I was saying

1115
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: to myself in my head and what was that?

1116
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: What was.

1117
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: What did well? I think it was just you know,

1118
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a great self help workshop, but

1119
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: I was present, I was in the moment.

1120
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 6: I was.

1121
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: I was being so gregarious and outgoing and fun and

1122
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: in the room, and I think I was just I remember,

1123
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: for just a tiny example, I remember always going into

1124
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: waiting rooms and sitting there silently and looking at my

1125
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: shoes and just being awkward and cringey. And I remember

1126
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: that Monday engaging with everyone in the waiting room and

1127
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: talking and laughing and being like a community of actors

1128
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: instead of antagonistically. And so I went in I went

1129
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: into the room. By the time I got in there

1130
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: already in a great mood, laughing as opposed to being

1131
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: like we're in battle. Yeah, just little tiny things like that,

1132
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: but mostly just just mindset.

1133
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 7: Well, you guys know that that getting anything going in

1134
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 7: this business, getting a project that you're that you like getting.

1135
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 4: You know that positivity is so important just because it's

1136
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 4: so hard. It's so hard to do this stuff. It's

1137
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: so hard to get things going.

1138
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: It's so hard.

1139
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 7: So when you walk in the room and you're positive

1140
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 7: and you've got and you bring positive energy and people say,

1141
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 7: you know, I need I need this from you, you say,

1142
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 7: you know what, I'm going to figure out how to

1143
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 7: give you that thing that you need. You know that

1144
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 7: that's a mindset that that you know, people want to

1145
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 7: have around you know people you know, you know, you

1146
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 7: guys know you're you're you come from comedy.

1147
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 4: And you know that people like that.

1148
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 7: When there is a steady sort of comedic feeling just

1149
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 7: sort of in the air, that comedy just comes much easier.

1150
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: It just does.

1151
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 5: I know.

1152
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 3: I really I remember the rooms where I would come

1153
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: into auditions and everybody was laughing and having fun and

1154
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: everything like that, and I always stood on they're trying

1155
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: to sabotage me. They're trying to sabotage me, and I

1156
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: would then, fucking you know, I would step away from

1157
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: that and try to focus on on just my words

1158
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 3: and everything. And I never would have a good audition

1159
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: when I did stuff like that.

1160
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 4: I do.

1161
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: That's exact for Scrubs. We were I remember that Zach

1162
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: wasn't at this audition, but Sarah was. I remember we

1163
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: were all in the room, having fun, trying to make

1164
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 3: each other laugh. We all knew our lines at this point,

1165
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Let's go fucking let's go

1166
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: fucking you know, uh, good luck to you, good luck

1167
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: to you. Let's go fucking try and get this job

1168
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: because we knew how big the show was, or you know,

1169
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: at least that's what our agents had told us.

1170
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we come back.

1171
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: We won't keep you too much longer, John, but we

1172
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: have to ask a little some two and a half

1173
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: men questions. I'm sure audiences want to know all about that.

1174
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 4: And I will be staying right.

1175
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: Back after these fine.

1176
00:55:49,719 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: Words, John, here, every guest, every wants to be like, hey,

1177
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 3: so how you guys been.

1178
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: Usually our guests, I think that we're going to take

1179
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of commercial break in two minutes. Johnny

1180
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: picked her right up on our fake breaks. So what

1181
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: was the two and a half men? I mean, I

1182
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: know there was uh, it's there was wacky anecdotes to

1183
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: be had. Did you did you enjoy your expence?

1184
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: Start? Let's start at the beginning. Let's start start.

1185
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: At the very beginning. Chuck, Lorie, I just did a

1186
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: I just did a small guest spot on Bookies and

1187
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: Men met Chuck for the first time. It's it's it's

1188
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: it felt good making him laugh. He seems like a

1189
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: very very talented man.

1190
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 7: Chuck is, yeah, is wildly talented. He had you know,

1191
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 7: it's funny because those still waters run kind of deep.

1192
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 7: He's he's actually, you know, really thinking about the big

1193
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 7: questions a lot of the time. But his sort of

1194
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 7: method of putting stuff out is through you know, laughter

1195
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 7: and uh uh you know. But he's a very smart

1196
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 7: guy and uh and I'm you know, he's also known

1197
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 7: as when when you're working on his stuff as a

1198
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 7: very generous laugher, he sort of starts.

1199
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 4: That saying these were fake last I'm saying, just so

1200
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: you know, you got are super easy and but no, no,

1201
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 4: I'm incredibly helpful.

1202
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 7: I'm I'm incredibly grateful for that, for that, because it's

1203
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 7: incredibly helpful in in just figuring out your timing and

1204
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 7: figuring out what works. And I had done this pilot

1205
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 7: with him where he was this incredibly generous laugher all

1206
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 7: the time we were doing it, and but that show

1207
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 7: didn't go.

1208
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

1209
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 7: And so when I auditioned for Two and a half Men,

1210
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 7: the first thing I I, you know, was not was

1211
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 7: the first time I'm.

1212
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 4: Reading it is not with Charlie Sheen. It was just

1213
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: you know, reading with a reader.

1214
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: And uh.

1215
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 7: And I come in, but I'm thinking, well, at least

1216
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 7: Chuck's a great laugher, so and so this is so

1217
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 7: at least I got that on my on my side.

1218
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 7: And I go in and silence. I got nothing from

1219
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 7: And I was like, what what what happened?

1220
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: Because I had heard him laughing for other people when

1221
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: you're in the waiting room for those of you aren't actors,

1222
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: when you're auditioning for a comedy and you're in the

1223
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: waiting room and you hear the person crushing in the room,

1224
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: and you're like and then also all this thing like

1225
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're so funny John and all that shit,

1226
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: and then you have to go in after and then

1227
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: you're like, I hope I get a fraction of those laughs.

1228
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: That person just crushed.

1229
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got. I got nothing from Chuck.

1230
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 7: I mean, he was lovely and cordial and you know,

1231
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 7: and and and he really liked and he made it

1232
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 7: clear he really liked how the scene played out. But

1233
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 7: I was like, I was really thrown by it, and

1234
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 7: I get immediately, I get home and I get a

1235
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 7: call from my agent saying they want you to to

1236
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 7: meet Charlie tomorrow. And I was like, oh, okay, great,

1237
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 7: But you know, I guess I guess I didn't blow it.

1238
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 7: I come in the next day and it's like one

1239
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty degrees. Chuck is just over the top.

1240
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 7: Everything is hitting, everything is perfect. And I afterwards, I

1241
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 7: walked out, I said, dude, you were awfully quiet yesterday.

1242
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: What was up?

1243
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 7: And he said, oh no, I was just in shock

1244
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 7: because nobody got it right before. And it was very

1245
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 7: late in the process. They had been they had been

1246
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 7: looking for Allen's for a month and a half when

1247
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 7: I finally came in, and I later found out that

1248
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 7: Les Moonvez the head of CBS was not looking forward

1249
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 7: to me auditioning because I think, I don't know, he didn't.

1250
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 4: He felt like I was a.

1251
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 7: Show killer because my other shows had died, and so

1252
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 7: I was thought of as kind of a spent commodity.

1253
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 7: And it was funny because at the same time, I'm

1254
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 7: going in on Battlestar Galactica, which is a totally different

1255
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 7: part for Gaya's Baltar, which.

1256
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: Is a wonderful role of course, man great.

1257
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 7: Great where all Jimmie call has ended up planet and

1258
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 7: he's wonderful in it. And uh, but I would have

1259
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 7: had to do a lot of that show shirtless, which

1260
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 7: I don't think anyone wanted.

1261
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: You would have gotten ripped.

1262
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 4: Would maybe, but I don't know if America is ready

1263
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 4: for that at any rate.

1264
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 6: Uh.

1265
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 7: But but I'm so I'm meeting with Ronald Moore on

1266
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 7: Battlestar and I'm meeting with Chuck like on the same days.

1267
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 7: These things are happening, and I'm like, what the hell

1268
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 7: is happening here? And I'd read the Battlestar script and

1269
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 7: I loved it. And I read the Two and a

1270
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 7: Half Men script and I loved it. Uh And so

1271
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 7: uh then I went and read with with Charlie Sheen

1272
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 7: and and Chuck really dug it. Then they had me

1273
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 7: come in and meet with you know, and read with uh,

1274
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 7: read for the Warner Brothers executives, and again it went

1275
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 7: over huge that time. And then it's all building up

1276
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 7: to reading for CBS, reading for less Moonbez and and uh,

1277
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 7: everybody is, you know, kind of like that's not going

1278
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 7: to happen. But we went in and uh and Less

1279
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 7: to his credit, according to Chuck, turned around and and

1280
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 7: said to Chuck, Okay, you win this one, meaning.

1281
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: He got he was allowed to cast me.

1282
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 7: And uh uh and that's and and I took that

1283
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 7: one because it was basically I had to remember how

1284
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 7: test deals work. I would have had to turn down

1285
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 7: two and a half men in order to take Battlestar,

1286
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 7: because they when you're making your test deals at the beginning,

1287
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 7: just for non actors out there, the way that networks

1288
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 7: used to do this during pilot season, would they would

1289
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 7: make a test deal where they were totally pre negotiate

1290
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 7: your contract before you auditioned for the network.

1291
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: Because they don't want you to have they don't want

1292
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: you to have any any power if you any leverage. What,

1293
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: so you sign your contract before they cast you. So like,

1294
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: if there's down to four people, those four people have

1295
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: all signed completely different deals because of their level of

1296
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: stardom or success or agents, uh ability and uh and

1297
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: so you all got like seven year contracts signed and

1298
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: then they just pick one.

1299
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. And not only but not only that, Sometimes you're like,

1300
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: you get to the testing area for a lot of actors,

1301
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 3: for those who, like John is saying, had two on

1302
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: the table at the time. You know, you get to

1303
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: the table and you're like, shit, I don't want to

1304
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: choose now. Can't we just do Let's get a little

1305
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: bit closer.

1306
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 4: I mean, and that way they both want me and

1307
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 4: they can both buy for my services.

1308
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 3: How about that? No, no, no, no, You've got to

1309
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 3: pick right now, and it's yeah.

1310
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 4: And what that means, though, is that you've got to pick.

1311
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 7: And and like, like, by picking, making my test deal

1312
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 7: with two and a half men, that meant I couldn't

1313
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 7: do Battlestar and there so I was like, it was

1314
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 7: very possible that I could do to the two and

1315
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 7: a half men audition and lose it and not have

1316
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 7: Battlestar and just be screwed.

1317
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 4: So thankfully it worked out.

1318
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 7: And and uh and I got to and a half

1319
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 7: Men and uh oh, a little known interesting fact on

1320
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 7: two and a half Men.

1321
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 4: My mother was originally played by byThe Danner. When we

1322
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 4: did the first read through, she absolutely killed it.

1323
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: She was wonderful.

1324
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 7: What happened was we started rehearsing and Blive Danner has

1325
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 7: this wonderful vulnerability to her, which she didn't have at

1326
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 7: the reading. When we did the reading, she was just,

1327
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 7: you know, balls to the wall.

1328
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: I've worked with her, wonderful.

1329
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's wonderful and has you know. And but when

1330
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 7: we started actually putting it on its feet, that vulnerability

1331
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 7: just because it came into who how she was playing

1332
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 7: the mom and and Chuck kept trying to work with

1333
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 7: her to say, you know, like understand, you got to

1334
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 7: toss these off. If we start to feel for her

1335
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 7: this way, this gets much darker. You know, she can't

1336
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 7: think about what she's doing, you know. And and eventually

1337
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 7: it just it did you know, it didn't work?

1338
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 4: Uh And And a lot of.

1339
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: Times the show, a lot of times actors think you

1340
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: have the part when you do the pilot, and we're

1341
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: here to tell you that's not think of the pilot

1342
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: as your final audition.

1343
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 3: The look the read through, the read through is still

1344
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: you're still.

1345
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: That's another thing is don't go don't make sure there's

1346
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: actors who kind of phone in the read through. Don't

1347
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: phone in the read through.

1348
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's that's my big that's my advice. If

1349
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 7: you asked my advice earlier is don't phone in the

1350
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 7: read through.

1351
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 4: Not only that in your game, not only that.

1352
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: And then when you get to fucking when you get

1353
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: to the stage, you gotta you know, especially when you're

1354
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 3: brand new on it. Like There's been times where I've

1355
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 3: gotten there and I'm like, I'm just gonna let my

1356
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 3: merit fucking who I am fucking and then come show night,

1357
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: I'll give you. I'll give them what they want. But

1358
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: when you're new to this thing, or you know what

1359
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 3: I mean, or you're guest starring, you got to come

1360
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: in right away. You gotta nail it, even in front

1361
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: of even in rehearsal, even with the director. Every time

1362
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: it's got to be nailed.

1363
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: Because still I ever did was with I did a

1364
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: guest spot on Donald I was hoping to do one

1365
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: on your Guys show. Yeah, and set it up I

1366
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: hope I can do it. But Donald, I did?

1367
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: What was it?

1368
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: The Exes?

1369
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 3: Donald? The X?

1370
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: Yes, it was so fun because I don't really I

1371
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: don't have experience all my most of my experiences is scrubs,

1372
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: which is not in front of a live audience. And

1373
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: making that audience laugh was such a joy and it's

1374
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: so hard not to milk the hell out of it.

1375
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

1376
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 4: Yes, it really is, It really really is.

1377
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 7: And yeah, and when they're yeah, and it's fun working

1378
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 7: on new material because a lot of time you'll you'll

1379
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 7: try something from the audience and maybe it doesn't work.

1380
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 7: So the writers are running in with new stuff and

1381
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 7: I love that. And it's a really fun atmosphere, you know.

1382
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: So what was it?

1383
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: Was it overall a fun experience on two and a

1384
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: half Men? Yeah, I mean Charlie, did you And Charlie

1385
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: for the most part click.

1386
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 4: Yes, we absolutely did. Right away.

1387
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 7: We had done hot shots together that movie, and we'd

1388
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 7: had a good time doing that. And I didn't really

1389
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 7: get to know him. I mean, we were work friends,

1390
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 7: you know, we didn't have that many scenes together. But

1391
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 7: I liked him and he was an incredibly friendly, gregarious guy,

1392
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 7: and by the time we did Two and a half Men,

1393
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 7: he was sober and so he was really on top

1394
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 7: of it and lovely to work with. The crew loved him,

1395
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 7: and you know, for those first few seasons, it was

1396
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 7: really smooth.

1397
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 4: And also it was.

1398
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 7: Really unusual because we got on the air. We were

1399
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 7: put behind Everybody Loves Raymond, which was a huge hit

1400
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 7: at that time, and then we were a huge hit

1401
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 7: right out of the box. It was the last season

1402
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 7: of Everybody Loves Raymond, and they were hoping we would

1403
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 7: take over for them, and we did. You know, just

1404
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 7: with this and just you know, and Donald and I

1405
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 7: have talked about this, Scrubbs was an amazing show and

1406
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 7: people knew.

1407
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 4: People got that.

1408
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 7: It was a great show the first season, but it was.

1409
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 7: But ratings wise, you guys were always a little bit

1410
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 7: behind the eight ball.

1411
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

1412
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: We were never a giant hit. You were a giant

1413
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: fucking hit right off the bat. We never had a

1414
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: huge I still wonder what that. I wondered what I

1415
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: remember what clueless felt like. But to have a television

1416
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: show where like the next like I watched Tippus Bloodsoe

1417
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: talk about it when she was a kid and she

1418
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: was very young and she said the day that Cosby

1419
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: came out and they were the number one show in

1420
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: the she said the very next day she could tell

1421
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: the chain.

1422
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 3: Walking walk from walking out of her door into the

1423
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 3: street into where everybody was. She could feel the difference.

1424
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 3: Could you feel the difference? Like, would you like was

1425
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 3: it like that?

1426
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: Was it like?

1427
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 7: Yeah? It was pretty I mean this was when broadcast

1428
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 7: television was still a super big deal, you know.

1429
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 4: And and yeah, I could feel it.

1430
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 3: It was.

1431
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 7: It was interesting though first season it wasn't like Night

1432
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 7: and Day the first season. The second season it was

1433
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 7: like I was the Beatles, you know. It was that

1434
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 7: I don't I have no idea why that why it

1435
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 7: was that way, but but I I you know, and

1436
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 7: that was just my perception, you know. But but but no,

1437
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 7: we we It was an incredibly lucky, unusual situation. That is,

1438
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 7: you know, for actors out there who are listening, that

1439
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 7: is unusual. Uh and and so I and and you know,

1440
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 7: and and and that's a lovely knowing that you have

1441
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 7: a job, knowing that you.

1442
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 4: Know it's going to be predictable.

1443
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 7: Uh and you you you know, you can you can

1444
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 7: plan vacations and you can plan your life and you

1445
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 7: can have kids and you can you know that you

1446
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 7: can have a normal life, you know, and you can

1447
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 7: really depend on this show being this this this job,

1448
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 7: that that's always there for you is great. But as

1449
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 7: Two and a Half Men was living proof of that

1450
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 7: doesn't always last.

1451
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 3: Let everything must in.

1452
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: How many seasons did it go?

1453
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 7: It ended up going twelve seasons. It was eight seasons

1454
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 7: with Charlie and four seasons with Ashton Kutcher.

1455
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 3: I can't believe you and Ashton did four seasons together.

1456
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: That's crazy, Like, yeah, it's crazy. It's a testament to

1457
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,480
Speaker 3: you and to Chuck. Also, like the writers.

1458
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 4: Were amazing on that show. The writers were amazing on

1459
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 4: that show. And yeah, absolutely, Chuck, Chuck.

1460
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 3: Of Charlie Sheen. At first, like you said, you had

1461
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 3: to with him. It wasn't like he had to read

1462
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 3: with you. You had to read with him. And then

1463
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 3: now he's gone.

1464
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, it was very It was It was

1465
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,839
Speaker 7: really watching that show relaunch and seeing how the writers

1466
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 7: did that was fascinating because just so, oh, here's a

1467
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 7: fun little backstage thing.

1468
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 4: The original.

1469
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 7: When I first after Charlie got fired, we all assumed, okay,

1470
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 7: well we had eight great seasons were done, you know,

1471
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 7: and Charlie had gone off the you know, off the

1472
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 7: deep end. He was screaming in the middle of the

1473
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 7: night at Chuck. He was doing those crazy web rants

1474
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 7: in the middle of the night, you know. And it

1475
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 7: was international news. I mean it was you know, headline.

1476
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: I remember he had like Access Hollywood or one of

1477
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: them into his house and he was talking about Tiger Blood.

1478
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Charlie, it's called I'm on something called Charlie Sheen.

1479
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, exactly. And it was bonkers.

1480
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 7: And I started getting these text messages from Chuck saying

1481
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 7: we may not be done, and I was like, what

1482
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 7: do we mean there? And I get this call they're

1483
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 7: talking to Hugh Grant to take over for for Charlie Sheen.

1484
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 7: And I was like, what, I beg your partner, And

1485
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 7: they said, well, you know, he's got that that teflon

1486
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 7: charm he you know, at that you know, he'd he'd

1487
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 7: been famous in America for getting caught with a prostitute

1488
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 7: and then you know, but being so charming about it,

1489
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 7: you know, and I thought, you know, he's wonderful. I'm

1490
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 7: pretty sure he's comfortable in front of an audience. You know,

1491
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 7: he'd be he'd be amazing to have and uh, I said, well,

1492
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 7: but you know, you're never going to get Hugh Grant

1493
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 7: and they said, no, he's flying in tomorrow.

1494
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 4: We want you to be with them.

1495
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god.

1496
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 7: So I went and met with him and they had

1497
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 7: written this part for him that was this this guy

1498
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 7: who was in the Diplomatic Corps, the British Diplomatic Corps.

1499
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 7: He was he took a spot at the US Embassy

1500
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 7: in Los Angeles because his daughter was going to school

1501
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 7: at u c l A. So he'd be this incredibly

1502
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 7: charming debonair guy. And then through the course of the

1503
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 7: episode we find out, oh no, he's a con man.

1504
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 4: None of that's true. And I've now and he's renting

1505
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 4: out my house.

1506
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was super fun. It was a super fun idea.

1507
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 7: And I read with you and he was terrific. He

1508
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 7: was you know, he's you Grant. He's wonderful, you know, uh,

1509
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 7: you know, yes, and the blinking and he was wonderful

1510
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 7: and it was great and he was charming. But I

1511
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 7: got this sense of remoteness, like I could sense that

1512
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 7: he wasn't really sure about this whole thing. Because multi

1513
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 7: camera sitcom is a very you know, it's a specific genre,

1514
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 7: not everybody very.

1515
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: Specific skill set. Yeah, I mean it really is. Even

1516
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: if you're a theater person, it's a different set of

1517
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: skills that that only certain people can really crush.

1518
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1519
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: So so he he was, you know, we had a

1520
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 4: great time talking with him. He went, you know, he

1521
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 4: got back on a plane for for London, and the

1522
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 4: next day I hear, hey, you know it's it's Peter

1523
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 4: Roth saying we got some issues with negotiating his contract.

1524
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, will you agree to this type of billing?

1525
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 7: And I was like, sure, we'll do Lavernie Shirley billing.

1526
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 4: It'll be great.

1527
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: And uh uh.

1528
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 7: I get a call two hours later Hugh Grant is

1529
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 7: co starring with you in two and a half men.

1530
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 7: The contract is signed.

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01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 3: We're ready to go.

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01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 4: I was like, wow, this is I gotta wow. I

1533
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 4: gotta sit down.

1534
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 3: This has been a world second lie.

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01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 5: Yes.

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01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 7: Then an hour later, an hour later, hour, I get

1537
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 7: a call from Chuck saying nope, he backed out of it.

1538
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 4: His agent said he was in and he changed his mind.

1539
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: Uh and we're like.

1540
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 5: So so so.

1541
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 7: Then I said, okay, well that was lovely, you know

1542
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 7: thank you for that fun adventure. But Ashton didn't come

1543
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 7: up as an even an option until until like a

1544
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 7: couple of weeks later.

1545
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 4: I think that they didn't. I assumed again that we

1546
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 4: were done.

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01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why they wouldn't. It's funny that once

1548
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: they had traction on someone like Hugh Grant, why they

1549
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, Okay, well it's gonna be something.

1550
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's what happened.

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01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 7: I mean, basically, it went from we can't do this

1552
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 7: show without Charlie too, Yeah, maybe we can, you know,

1553
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 7: and and he was the first phase of that. And

1554
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 7: then Ashton was fun because Ashton, you know, at this point,

1555
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 7: you know, Ashton is very active in the tech field.

1556
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 4: He's he's been an investor in a lot of things,

1557
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 4: and he's made he's made a lot of money doing that.

1558
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 4: God bless him.

1559
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 7: Uh and uh and so once Chuck had had a

1560
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,560
Speaker 7: meeting with him and said, oh, well he's you know,

1561
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 7: he's got a lot of fun stories about to look

1562
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 7: on Valley. You know, it's uh, you know, we could

1563
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,919
Speaker 7: have this guy be you know, this this tech billionaire

1564
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 7: who's kind of you know, got you know, never really

1565
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 7: grew up, you know, you know, and that would be

1566
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 7: a fun thing to play off against Alan's character.

1567
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 4: And and he was just a breath of fresh air.

1568
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 5: He was.

1569
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 4: He was great, fun to work with. And he knew

1570
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 4: the skill set. Obviously he knew the skill set. He

1571
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 4: absolutely knew the skill set. He was great with the audience,

1572
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 4: great with timing, he.

1573
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: Didn't go in the audience.

1574
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 3: And they got four years, Bro, they got four years.

1575
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 3: We're working on two.

1576
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: Talking about I'm talking about doubt that that that Ashton

1577
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 1: Kutcher entertained the audience on the level of Donald Faison.

1578
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think so.

1579
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. Man, listen, I this mom. He's gonna

1580
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 3: he'll deny it. But before Ashton Kutcher was fucking mister sophisticated,

1581
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: fucking whatever. And this dude we used to do NBA

1582
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 3: Basketball All Star weekends together all the time and we

1583
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: would sit there and this dude would I'll never forget this.

1584
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: He would sit there and be like, man, I can't

1585
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 3: believe we're doing this. I can't believe I'm about you know,

1586
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 3: do you have a dunk idea? Do you have any

1587
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: clues on what you're gonna do? And I'd be like,

1588
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 3: I have no idea what I'm gonna do. Man, We're

1589
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 3: just gonna go up there and they'd be like ladies

1590
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 3: and gentlemen. Next up Ashton Kutcher, and he'd go from man,

1591
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 3: here we go to hello. And I was like this,

1592
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: and he's in He's in the stands with the ball

1593
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: looking at the crowd. You know the guys that run

1594
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 3: to the stands. You know the guys that run to

1595
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 3: the stands and act like your cheering isn't enough and

1596
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 3: so you need to give them more. They're not good.

1597
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 3: I can't hear you those guys.

1598
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: I take it back.

1599
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: He may have. He may.

1600
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: If there was a competition for who can entertain an audience,

1601
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: most you guys.

1602
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 3: Might it would be a battle.

1603
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 4: It would be a battle.

1604
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: He probably owns a T shirt cannon. He well, he's

1605
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: not all that. He's not all that tech bro money. John,

1606
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I hope that the show gets

1607
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 1: picked up and found somewhere, and I hope that I

1608
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: can come on and do a guest spot.

1609
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 4: I said, you should be the owner of the Knicks.

1610
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 4: That's what I have said.

1611
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 7: If Donald's character is gonna be the owner of the Celtics,

1612
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 7: you're the owner of that.

1613
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: Then that would be amazing.

1614
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 3: It'll be amazing.

1615
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: I'm newly I newly like sports, so it'll be perfect,

1616
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: it'll be great.

1617
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 4: It'll be great.

1618
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: John, thank you so much for your time. We appreciate you.

1619
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 4: Thank you, guys. This was a blast. This was genuinely

1620
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 4: fucking hilarious.

1621
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: That was so fun. What a good guess. Wow, Donald,

1622
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: thanks for knowing him so he would come on our show.

1623
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 3: I'm so happy. I'm so happy I know him. Man, Like,

1624
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 3: for real, He's such a dude. He's such a listen.

1625
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: He tells so much. Yeah, he tells stories of of

1626
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 3: of of his life and everything like that. And you

1627
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 3: just you just you just you root for people like him,

1628
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because he's just a good person.

1629
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's an ultimate example for the for those

1630
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: of you listening who did not have to be about

1631
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: acting whatever you're pursuing about ups and downs. I mean,

1632
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: he had, as you heard, he had so many show

1633
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: get canceled. He had years where he was barely working

1634
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: and he had the head of it, he had less

1635
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: moon best the head of CBS telling Chuck Lorie don't

1636
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: hire him, he's a show killer. And then he gets

1637
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,919
Speaker 1: a twelve year run on one of the biggest sitcoms

1638
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: of all time. I mean, it's it's it's very inspirational,

1639
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: very don't stop the hustle.

1640
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 3: Well, you can't quit, can't quit cooking. Gotta keep cooking.

1641
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I gotta keep cooking, baby.

1642
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 3: Gotta keep cooking. That's real talk. That's real talk.

1643
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: That's real talk. All right, this was so fun. Thank

1644
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 1: you audience for tuning in. Joelle, anything you want to

1645
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: say to our to our listeners.

1646
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 4: Come back next week and listen to it.

1647
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 3: We'll have somebody new next week.

1648
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: We'll see somebody new next week. And Dan want anything

1649
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: you want to say to the audience.

1650
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: John was great. That was a lot of fun. And yeah,

1651
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: I back that up. I'm excited for what the rest

1652
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: of the show brings. It's gonna be great.

1653
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 3: I have something to say.

1654
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Donald.

1655
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 3: I love my wife Casey Cobb, and I love my children.

1656
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1657
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 6: Stories about show we made about a bunch of talks

1658
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 6: and nurses in Canada. I said, here's the stories next

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Speaker 6: all s no, so yadda round you here, up, YadA,

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