1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Marking, Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cannabis Stars One Funny It's all right now. 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Oh you guys. I wish you guys could see us now. Well, 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: if you can't, go to the YouTube channel because right now, Craig, 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: how do you feel looking at your brother charging You 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: could be in the back of a limo right now 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: because you're basically paying for this. No, I'm not paying 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, I mean, you guys are the Pot Brothers. 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Although you know you know that he says he's he's 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: going up De l a bad traffic. He's gonna at 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: least knock out two or three consults to the Pop 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law, and and he's gonna pay for it 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: on top of them. So that's a good thing that 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: you're seeing it. Ask YOU'RENNA. You gotta be efficient. You 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: better make some money on you better make some money 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: on this ride, little brother. That's all I gotta say. 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: With technology, it's awesome. We're actually looking at Mark in 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the back of a limo and we're looking at this 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: other guy who looks like Greig Washerman's younger brother who 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: comes back to the show set. Dude, when you go 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: to Vegas and you come back with hair talking about 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: and you came back from Vegas like you're Harry Button, 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: you went back in yours whatever? What was that movie 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: called Button? I know what you're talking about, but I 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: bottom line is you lost twenty years. You look. I 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: even talked to your wife and she goes, I can't believe. 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't get these. I'm a gold digger look anymore 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: because I was some old man and I go, no, man, 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: yeah no, and I did. I had a I mean, 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: the bushiest goatee that I've had in years. I had 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: the COVID hair. You look like you have four big 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: nuts on your chin, not to four of them. They're 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: just so hay like school eighty Harry nuts. No old 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: school Harry t go t either way, a little different 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: than you. Don't know why you make everything in the 38 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: nuts because I like nuts and it makes makes smile. 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm nuts are chest nuts, all all of them actually 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: just all nuts? You know. Um, But everyone there, thank 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: you for listening to the podcast. Cannabi's talking about on 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: get your podcast. We've actually are being heard in over 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: eighty three countries right now, and you know, I just 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: want to thank all those people listening to us all 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: over the world. We appreciate it. And if you ever 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the show, call us 48 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: up eight hundred eight, ask a question, make a comment. 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: It's eight, and make sure you go to the Instagram 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: pages learn the script. The slam poems so much more 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: about our personal lives. It's at Cannabis Talk one oh one, 52 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: at Pot Underscore, Brothers Underscore at Underscore, law Mark, Little 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Brother in the back of the limo right now is 54 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: at wast Law, Craig, is that wash Law Dog Blue? 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: Is that one? Christopher Wright? And I am at Joe 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: Grande yes before we start the show, and I know 57 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of news that we're gonna get you. 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: I want to get your guys opinion on an email 59 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: I got Joe Grande at Cannabis Talk one oh one. 60 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: Here was an email and I love it because it's 61 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: about you, Craig, they said, and I love I love 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: this because this is the verbage. If Craig is there today, literally, 63 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: I would love to hear Craig's take on Medman. Seems 64 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: like Craig takes more days off than the President, Jimmy 65 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: and Lancaster Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, and I'm like, between Craig 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: and Mark, I don't know who takes. Mark's been coming 67 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: on sky, but hey, I haven't taken that many days off. 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Late last week we got and we were we were 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: doing two shows a week. I gave advanced notice. We 70 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: banged out those two shows. So Jimmy, I don't know. 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a I think it's something that Joe perpetuates. 72 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm not there, um but there. So I appreciate that 73 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy asking about me and uh, and I am the 74 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: old Fox, so I get to do what the funk 75 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I want on top of all that, but I love 76 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: that you're listening and asking med Men. There was another Uh, 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: there's so many news articles. When I prepped for the show, 78 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: we could do five shows a day and I'd have 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: still too much news to go over on five shows 80 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: a day. But yeah, the men, the med Men is 81 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: becoming a huge debacle. Man. Um, they have layers and 82 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: layers of ownership. There was an article today that you're 83 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: the spider Web or like six different entities and each 84 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: entities owned by another entity. And some of these entities 85 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: are owned are are in the cannabis space in Los Angeles, 86 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: and social equity where you have to own a certain 87 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: percent of the company a social equity applicant, and and 88 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: the people and Harvest and the people who med Men 89 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: say they're taking over might not have the rights to 90 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: these stores. I mean, it's I didn't go into detail 91 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: because I wasn't going to address it today, but Jimmy, 92 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: you listen next week, I will definitely go over in 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: more detail and break if I'm here and break it 94 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: down for you so real quick. As we've talked about 95 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: it on a couple of shows, and I believe you 96 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: and Mark still understand where we stand. For as far 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: as you see just a quick summary, Madman is gonna 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: be too big and shrink to lose. They're gonna have 99 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: and I know, so elaborate more on as Blue made 100 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: a great point which I love his point. Last time 101 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: we talked about what I just confused that freaking story 102 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: with high times, did you okay? Thank you? For doing 103 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: it's great. Is that's normal for you? So what is it? 104 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: And just read the High Times. I just read the 105 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: High Times article. The old fuck acted like the old 106 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: fun hey hey, but no, there isn't there. No. There 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: is a Madman article today as well, which I didn't 108 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: address because I thought maybe Joe would go in green 109 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: he loves med men. I thought maybe he'd address it. 110 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: So I really didn't get into detail on that. But 111 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: I think they lost what you're saying, they lost it. 112 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: They settled an investor uh investor shareholder lawsuit with Times. 113 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: No no, no, non men men is completely different. I 114 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: want to address men men for Jimmy. I apologize with 115 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: seven minutes. They stepped down, right the CEO down. You 116 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: know that that's old news. There's still things going on 117 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: with med men to where I don't know if they're 118 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: too big to fail. Time will tell. I will get 119 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: into more detail with the article that I did see today, 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: glanced at. It didn't go into detail. So I really 121 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: don't want to go over without without actually knowing what 122 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about on that. So so to give you 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: guys the heads up because you were here, I'm gonna explain, 124 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, try to know they were doing a couple 125 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: of the shows last week after we decided to do 126 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: two on Monday. Well, we tried to add a couple 127 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: of shows so we can lock you out of a 128 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: couple more. We're just trying to do more contents. You 129 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: can make more money. That's what we're looking out for you. Hey, 130 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm not upset about it by the request from the 131 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: big guy upstairs. But check this out though. Um, what 132 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: it comes down to is is med Men. I No, 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: it's too big to fill. Okay, that's that's you know, 134 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: every market, almost every giant can fall. Okay, but but 135 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, government bailout the yea. But clearly this though, 136 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: and I was trying to explain it last week and 137 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: I'll kind of update it today, is you know, you've 138 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: got somebody that like Medman, that came into a market, 139 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: a global market, and expand it into the market and 140 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: became one of the number one, um, you know, recognizable 141 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: companies in the cannabis space. And they ultimately used so 142 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: much capital to get there. And and I want to say, 143 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: well they, I mean, everybody probably misuses that kind of capital. 144 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean when you get to yeah, these guys, these 145 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure they did well. But the reason 146 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: I think that is, though, is because I think they 147 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: overpromised people. And so what happens is is, you know, 148 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: you've got an investor. They says, okay, I'm gonna put 149 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: up fifty million dollars. Okay, and they're they're saying, hey, 150 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: make it back in three years and five years, and 151 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: so we're gonna go buy a mansion in five special 152 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: And like, I love that blue point this out, and 153 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of that posture that med Men did. Look 154 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: at us, we're so big, we're so bad. They're bad. 155 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: They became and and bought a name. They paid for it, 156 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: and you're right, they bought that mansion, they bought those jets. 157 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: They took those trips to posture themselves as look at us, 158 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: we're badasses, not well and and to look at they 159 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: didn't use They didn't med Men didn't become Medman because 160 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: of the way they used the money. It was a 161 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: brilliant marketing plan and a brilliant name. In the third quarter, 162 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: they just increased forty five point nine million dollars, so 163 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: they had increased Granted they were down about two but 164 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: they're on their way back up. So I hope my 165 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: thought processes again that that you know, you put your 166 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: balloon in the in the front because you want to 167 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: get as much market show as possible. And so they 168 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: they've they've made such a huge name and in order 169 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: to get as much space as they have market you know, 170 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: uh uh space, they're not paying creditors still, I'm sure 171 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: who is? It's the pandemic. Yeah. You know what's funny 172 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: is I've got you know, I've got you know, the 173 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: free pass from my credit cards, from my my vehicles, 174 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: and not one have I taken it because I just 175 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: feel like I don't want to give it and it 176 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: makes you look like you're weak and you're still going 177 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: to it but you can afford it, don't credit purposes. 178 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: It makes you look weak, I'm sure too if you're like, 179 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I can't afford to pay my bill. I 180 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: think Mark has on his med Main shirt as we speak. Mark, 181 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: is that a Medman shirt you're wearing? It's not a 182 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: t You got a tip for you, Mark, It's called 183 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: the tip of my not 'm not for that? What 184 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: kind of show? Are we? Sorry? Come on's your brother? 185 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: He brings it out in mind Joe, I gotta I 186 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: gotta tell you about Georgia Democratic Senate candidate John Assa 187 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: tweeted in the Senate. Here this is another candidate, right, 188 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: this is my segment, my any biddy, tiny little and 189 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: I and I came close today. I didn't think I 190 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: was gonna be able to find somebody, but I found 191 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: I found a few, which I'll wait for the next 192 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: show to give out the other one. But he tweeted 193 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: in the Senate, I'll fight for stronger so and this 194 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: is big too, because it's in the Senate, not the 195 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: House of Representatives. In the Senate, I'll fight for stronger 196 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: civil rights laws and do process protections and end to 197 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: mandatory minimum sentencing, prison reform that raises conditions to human standards, 198 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: death penalty abolition, cannabis legalization, and just do a bunch 199 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: of stuff in there. How you watch all the criminals 200 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: to love him? Hey, you want to get rid of 201 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: the cannabis legalization. I mean you you want to get 202 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: rid of the death penalty. You wanna stop prohibition, is 203 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: what I meant. You want to get rid of the 204 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: prohibition because with prohibition comes all of your human rights 205 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: violations against the minorities and people of color. You know 206 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: where's he's out of Georgia. I don't that. Now. There's 207 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: one thing I found in looking for these articles though, 208 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna, I'm gonna this is kind of like 209 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: one of my brother's stories. But I'll just be really 210 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: really brief, please, I just couldn't help because I'm reading 211 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: this going Missouri, Republican congressional candidate Adela Wisdom along with 212 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: her husband, who was running for state lieutenant governor, and 213 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: thinking I'm gonna get a good quote, right right, was 214 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: arrested after allegedly warning marijuana plants on their property after 215 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: a National Guard helicopter where the county deputy flew overhead 216 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: on his property. And what's his title again? Who's what? 217 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: He's running for state lieutenant governor and his his wife 218 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: is a Republican congressional Canada. Oh that's awesome in Missouri. 219 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: He's just I thought I was gonna read about and 220 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: they're in favor of and know it's anyways and they 221 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: got some land out there. Well, let's break real quick, 222 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: come back with some cannabis news and Mark, we still 223 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: want to get some stories from you. And cannabis goes bad, 224 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: and here about your court date. I really want that Updade. 225 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: There's two updates I want to give from you. One 226 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: from the war in um the valley with the uber driver, 227 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: a Mexican lady that you get a probo on ocase for, 228 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: and the child that got taken away from his father 229 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: for smoking weed. Two cases there. Yes, when you right 230 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: back after that, welcome back me, Oh, welcome back. We 231 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: can hear you loud and clear, and uh, it's a 232 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: wonderful day in the neighborhood. You can hear me. Can 233 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: you do marks in the back of a limo skyping 234 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: into the show? We start the show before we're like 235 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: every wee quiet Mark, Hey Hamming, Hey Harry, and welcome 236 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: joke in the back of the door. Anybody Hammond with Craig. 237 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it sounds exactly like that, because it 238 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: was annoying like that to me. Hello, yes, sound amazing, 239 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: That's how I sounded. Joe, Well, can we hear from 240 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: your big brother please today? Or can we get to 241 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: cannabis news out of you? For one? There's there's so 242 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: much news, but you know what one of the actually 243 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: a huge case there. There's a federal case in the 244 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: California case and I'm gonna hit the let's gonna have 245 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: the federal case first. It applies across the country. It's 246 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: called cross enforcement. It's when a state safety officer or 247 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: a state policeman tries to arrest somebody on a federal crime. 248 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: What is that called him? Cross enforcement? Okay, so we 249 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: have officers, a state officer, Highway Patrol, THEFIC, whatever it is, 250 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: sworn officer. Can can they let me ask you this question. 251 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: If an officer smells weed in California State officer c HP, 252 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: can he say? Can he say that is a federal crime? 253 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Under federal law, it's illegal. I'm gonna search your car 254 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: because of the smell. I think it depends if you're 255 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: black or white driving first off. So and I'm not 256 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: talking about the chances of it actually getting deployed on you. 257 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: I agree with you, but that consideration, I see where 258 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: you're going. I just wanted to be completely honest. But 259 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna say whatever they want. But I 260 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: don't think the law says you should. Because in California, 261 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, smell is not probable cause for 262 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: a ticket. They should just they should have just filed 263 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: the case with Joe correct that that's what the case 264 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: came down. See, I'm not a lawyer, but I played 265 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: with case came down and said that the state officer 266 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: can't search your car based on probable cause of the 267 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: federal marijuana offense because under under in California. Yeah, but 268 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: you asked in California. In California, and it's for any state. 269 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: It's because this is a federal case. A federal judge 270 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: is throwing out you have the same most You're saying 271 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: that rule and regulations is gonna apply to every state. 272 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: Now if the federal bench this is in the Southern 273 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: District here in California. So at some point if there's 274 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: varying decisions at the federal level across different states because 275 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,359 Speaker 1: the different districts compromise different states, the federal court districts, 276 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: it's not just one state. It could it could be California, 277 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: orient and whatever other states compiled of the Southern District. 278 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure off top of my head, So I'm 279 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: not gonna say what states compromise it. But that's how 280 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: that works. Would seem more where it's illegal. Well, no, 281 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: a federal court in a different district could rule differently 282 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: and that's how things end up at the Supreme Court level. 283 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: When you have different districts making different decisions people, the 284 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: law of the land have to trim in. So I 285 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: got I got insight. This is just a recap on 286 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: things that we've talked about in the past, since we're 287 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: talking federal laws, and Mark and Craig have so many, 288 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, disagreements about federal you know, cannabis court federal 289 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: because don't think it's gonna ever happen federal ly. And 290 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: he's about to, you know, and I believe it will. 291 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: And I actually got some insight, and I believe that 292 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: I might be onto something. I think Craig you'll happily 293 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: have with me. So quick trick question here, Mark, since 294 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: you're the attorney over there in the back seat of 295 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: a limo smoking a joint illegally, you know, let me 296 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: ask you this point. Let me ask you this. He said, 297 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Oh SHITU do as I say, not as I do. 298 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: It's hamp it's hamp. We can't even hear you. Um So, 299 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: So here's the thing, though, is when does the canopy 300 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: law in California pass to where the canopy has do 301 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: you think what do you mean hold on so do 302 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: you think that that. I'll explain that real quick for 303 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: actually for no limit. Yeah, what happens is is, right 304 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: now there's a I think it's one acre, anything over 305 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: to anything over ten thousand square feet grow might have 306 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: a separate license, you know, in unlike a brewery, that 307 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: could be the size of as much as land as 308 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: you buy. So right now you're capped at that, and 309 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna take that cap off and you can grow 310 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: as many acres as you want under one license, which 311 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: which I had. Some very intelligent and powerful people have 312 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: some good conversation with me saying, well, dude, it's goin 313 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: legal in five federally. Why wouldn't it you understand? Why 314 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: why did you get through land? Why why is it 315 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: going to because because the caps are coming off and 316 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: all the big guys can really come in. See right now, 317 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: that mark over there feels a little uncotter, that little 318 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: five grand. If we're on the subject. If we're on 319 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: this subject, there was another article I read saying about 320 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: a guy who gave federally federal legalization one a three 321 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: hundred to one shot. Now based on a lot of 322 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: different factors, that has gone down to fifty fifty that quick. 323 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: But Blue Democrats, this is counting on and this guy 324 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: has tracked all these different UH congressional of races, and 325 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: this is counting on the Democrats holding the House and representatives. 326 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: The Democrats only need five or six to flip the Senate. 327 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: And then Biden comes in, and Biden's under so much 328 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: pressure from the other wing of the Democrats to go 329 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: along with marijuana legalization. If both houses in the Senate 330 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: UH pass a law, I don't see Biden ever vetoing 331 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: that thing, not at all. And not only that Trump's 332 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: not winning this time Blue. I confirmed that over the 333 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: weekend when I've seen about forty six people at that 334 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Arizona sucking our Oklahoma rally where they try to really rally. 335 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: His people aren't coming out no more. Just to let 336 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, I know you were saying he's gonna win, 337 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna vote though, we'll see people goes off this rally. 338 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: Here's the thing to two things, So go ahead. I 339 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: just I just feel this. You know, it's not that 340 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: that I want Trump to win. I'm not the I'm 341 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: a big Trump supporter. No, I I just think that 342 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: he says him outlandish. You think it's a dictator wanted. 343 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: We know that, we know that, but I also think 344 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: that prior to and I don't think he's racist, okay, 345 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: And I think he says racist ship they're gonna be 346 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: the first one in the camp. Hold on, no, no, 347 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: let me tell you. Let me tell you why. One 348 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: of his best friends is Mike Tyson. So that means 349 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: that he's racist. That doesn't mean because because you have 350 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: one black friend doesn't mean you're not racist. And actually 351 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: Joe is going to be going to the camp first. 352 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: He's Lopez. You're right, they're gonna think you're a jew. 353 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: Oh you're going to you know, well, you know, here's 354 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: the here's the reality that is. I'm Puerto Rican. So yeah, 355 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: Pitt standing up, ball man over there, the team square, 356 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: everybody's squaring. Ever those you don't know. It's a big 357 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: African American man, engineer. People good on both sides. How 358 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: do you reconcile any of those statements? How do you 359 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: recognize that China virus? Hung flu? Did he say that? 360 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: Kung flu? Did you say it? Godleys are all racist comments. 361 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: These are jokes that you can get away with. You're 362 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: not a comedian, You're not you know, passing out on 363 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: stage like DL did, and you can get away with 364 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: it because that your say, some stupid ships racist. You 365 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: can't argue with that, and I'm not I'm not appreciate 366 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: that he's ten minutes drinking water on the stage. Maybe 367 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: it's great, though, advocate. You know what's great, though, is 368 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: that he's a federal court. What's great, what's great from court, 369 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: at least in this district, is throwing a case for marijuana, 370 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: federal marijuana violation at a criminal level, throwing out all 371 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: the evidence because it was obtained illegally from an illegal 372 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: search and seizure, meaning that federal charge is gonna go 373 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: out the window. So this just remind everybody listening, this 374 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: is why it is so darn important to never consent 375 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: to a search, no matter what the officer ever says, 376 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: because they can lie to you. They can say, oh, 377 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: it's a federal charge, I can look okay, or or 378 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: whatever whatever they're gonna say in line do to get 379 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: in that car. Never consent. If they're gonna ultimately do it, 380 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: then they do it. Obviously, in this case, the guy 381 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: didn't consent because if he did consent, it would throw 382 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: our defense all the way out the window, so don't consent. 383 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: And this is huge, This is huge for a federal 384 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: court to throw this out based on unreasonable search and seizure. 385 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: Where it was this that it was out of San 386 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: Francisco actually California. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's funny how these 387 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: he has books for that. I mean, that's you, that's 388 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: your client. No, no, no, no, it was an article. 389 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: It was an article I just read. Explain this more 390 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: when you say that, because I'm a little lost when 391 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: you say the federal and this is that on the 392 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: over state lines, because I know, like the overstates, but 393 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: going back to the overstate when will cause period. So 394 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you know, And how 395 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: is that trying to leverage it? I mean, even if 396 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: it's a federal because of the police report. In the 397 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 1: police report, the cops said I was trying to uphold 398 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: a federal law. Oh so he didn't realize well no, 399 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: well that's actually afterwards because it was what's it's post 400 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: top meeting. It was after he wrote the report. They 401 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: came up. In one case, they came up with this argument, Oh, 402 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: I was I was in force in federal law, and 403 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: the judge is like that's so, did you have to 404 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: correct the cop and the judge like Mark did with 405 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: his judge and the police officers that he was doing. 406 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: We don't know that the judge was correct in this fact. Well, 407 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna hear how Mark that 408 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: yelled at by Mark. I don't know, you're on a delay. Yeah, 409 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: we can't bring him back. Yeah, we'll try to bring 410 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: it back. You guys, I don't know if you've heard 411 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: the story. Blue. But Mark got the judge so piste 412 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: off that the judge told him, I'm gonna get you 413 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: in contempt of court, told him to calm his little 414 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: pelican leper can down dined it out. He pulled a blue. Yeah, 415 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: he started going crazy. He went blue like you went 416 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: crazy down blue. He went crazy young the judge, but 417 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: he didn't hang up and walk out. Its kind of 418 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: the top one on one back. Alrighty, So now we're 419 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: gonna go back because everybody heard this key word that 420 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: Joe just said. And and then Craig while off air, 421 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: said something else. He got all mad at Mark. The 422 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: word was contin contempt up court, up court. So what happened? Marky? 423 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: Let us know? All right, So let's back up. As 424 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: you might remember, at the end of last year, we 425 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: took a pro bono case for a nice lady who's 426 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: an uber driver. Lady, thank you guys for representing. Appreciate you, Mark, 427 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: not you, Graig. A lady gives free rides to homeless 428 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: people when she can, and so on this particular day 429 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: back at the end of last year, she gave a 430 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: ride to a homeless guy. He got in the car 431 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: and he's stunk of homeless and alcohol and pod and yeah, 432 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: kind of like jump. So she drops him off at 433 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: a laundry mat in a strip mall and then pulls out, 434 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: makes a legal left turn using her blinker, and as 435 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: soon as she pulls out, a cop that that was 436 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: in front of her slows down, gets behind that's your pass, 437 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: and then pulls her over and she says, why did 438 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: you pull me over? He said, I smelled marijuana, and 439 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: then he pulled her out and then he came in 440 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: front of her from behind her. Just get to the 441 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: courtroom scene. That will summarize at all, Craig. He's describing 442 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: a story. He's doing good radio, unlike what you know 443 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: how to do. Go ahead, Peter of the Mind fire 444 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: me you're walking through us and you're walking to me 445 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: down a path. Can you please shut your big brother 446 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: up and continue, because now I can see it all go. 447 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna call you Peter Mark because actually, because her 448 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: mother is a fan of Michael Rappaport, she heard us 449 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: on the Rappaport podcast, taught her daughter the script. She 450 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: used the script, and she filmed the police when she 451 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: was three different times she denied the search, ask for 452 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: a super by. Sir. Supervisor comes and he wants to search. 453 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: He she denies him the search, and then they search 454 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: and they find a roach that was dropped by the 455 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: homeless guy, and they charge her with open container, which 456 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: is an infraction, but a point on your d MV record, 457 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: which for a super driver will kill you and your 458 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: insurance that alone goes up at least an extra grand, 459 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: if not too grand of a year. So we filed 460 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: the motion with all of our evidence from the video 461 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: and everything else that this was an illegal search and 462 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: we're looking to get the evidence thrown out in the 463 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: case dismissed. So we finally went to you know, because 464 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: the pandemic pushed everything. We finally went to court last Friday. 465 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: The cop shows up and we start. Now, as everybody 466 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: knows here, as me and my brother have have been 467 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: saying for a few years now, smell alone is not 468 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: probable cause. So I served my motion on the other side, 469 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: like I'm supposed to. I can't imagine the cop you know, 470 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: read it. He didn't file any response, he was just testifying. 471 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: So when he testified, he said, I pulled the car, 472 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: came out, and I smelled the odor of marijuana, and 473 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: I also saw a big cloud of smoke come out 474 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: of the car, and my client just about fell out 475 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: of her chair. And she never smoked because she Nope, 476 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: she didn't smoke in the car. She doesn't smoke while 477 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: she's driving. The officer never said anything about smoke at 478 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: the time of the arrest, right at the time of 479 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: the stop. And now, because you need something more than 480 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: just smell, he says, he saw all this smoke. So 481 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: I question my client, you know, did you ever smoke? No? 482 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: Do you ever smoke when you're driving? No? And then 483 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: when the judge started rendering her decision and got to 484 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: a point where smell alone, But here we have the 485 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: officer see smoke coming out of the window, and I said, 486 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: your honor my client just testified that she didn't smoke. 487 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: Why are you assuming he's telling the truth? Why he 488 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: telling the truth? And then when I questioned the officer, 489 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: here's how it went. I said, he said he he 490 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: found two marijuana cigarettes that were burnt out roaches, and 491 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: I said, can we please see those? Oh? He didn't 492 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: bring up. I said, well, did you test him? Do 493 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: you know are they hamper CBD or THCD? What do 494 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: you mean? And I said, do you know? Do you 495 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: know that HEMP and th HC cannabis smelled the same? No, 496 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: well they do. And then the judge said, Mr Wasserman, 497 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: you're not testifying. Yeah. And then it's so annoying. When 498 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: I asked him, why didn't you say anything about smoke 499 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: when you first pulled my client over? And then he 500 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: didn't even answer. The judge interrupted me and said, well, 501 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 1: he doesn't have have to tell somebody every reason why 502 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: he pulls him over. Why didn't your client tell him 503 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: it was himp Look at this? Look at this? And 504 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: what did you say? Mark? Oh? I went, I lost it. 505 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: I went, your honor, my client has a Fifth Amendment 506 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: right to say nothing. I cannot believe you, as a 507 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: judge just said that. Mr Wasser, please take a step 508 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: back and calm and don't tell me how to do 509 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: my job. I'm the judge, you asshole. You sit down. 510 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: You're shorter than me and I'm a woman. And that's 511 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: when Canada's goes bad. But the story is not over 512 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: the right. So then the the I took a step back. 513 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, your honor. Uh you know here, let's just 514 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: go back. He didn't prove that it was hamp he 515 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: didn't do a test, he hasn't done any damning. And 516 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've submitted all the video, you have everything. 517 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: And then she says she's gonna take it under submission 518 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: and look at everything. And then the cop goes, well, wait, 519 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: I got I didn't bring my body cam video. Can 520 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: I submit that? And I go, I object, your honor, 521 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: it's too late. We already have the hearing. We submitted 522 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: all the evidence, you know. And then I said, well, wait, officer, 523 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: does this video is it gonna show the smoke coming 524 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: out of the window, because I'd love to see it, 525 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: And he said, well, my video doesn't my camera doesn't 526 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: face backwards. And I go, oh, but you have eyes 527 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: in the back of your head. This is so good. 528 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: I love hearing that story and so taking on submission. 529 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: And then before I left, I said, your honor, my 530 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: apologies for being a little over zealous. I was representing 531 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: my client. And she actually said, no problem, Mr Washerman, 532 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: you were really fighting hard for your client best. Yeah, 533 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: thank you. You're like and to let you know, your honor, 534 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: this is pro bono. This is a hard I work 535 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: for free. It's always there, always gets him in trouble 536 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: and everything else, Like, I'm doing this for free. Damn it, 537 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: I did I give off. This was supposed to be 538 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: two appearances. It's gonna turn into five. Yeah, two hours up, 539 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: two hours back for a meat trip to Mark, you're 540 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: a good man, and that is when cannabis goes bad. Yes, man, 541 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: that was amazing. I'm that a good story. You know what, Mark, 542 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the way you describe that, we're 543 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: going to call you theater Mark for now on. I 544 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: mean that was a good theater of the mine. You 545 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: took us all the way down to the courthouse in Ventura, 546 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: laid out the judge to the homeless folks that he 547 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: she picks up randomly. I mean, right now, right, can 548 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: you see the roaches in the car. I don't even 549 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: make that story up. I pick up homeless people for 550 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm an uber homeless driver, get him help off and 551 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: then I and I don't want him smoke in my car. 552 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: But sometimes they bring drugs. That's what I mean. It's 553 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: a question syringe falls in the back and falls in 554 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: the back mark. Does she appear to be, you know, 555 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: a little rough around the edges or is she a 556 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: very clean cut person? Because sometimes you're trying to person 557 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: that's horrible. No, I'm trying to because I want to 558 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: see how the cop Because if I had that conversation 559 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: with my mother, had that conversation with the cop, they 560 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: might just say, oh, I'm sorry, your mother's getting off dog. 561 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: Your mother is still very hot for being do that's 562 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: a good that's a good say I've double taken his 563 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: mom yours too. You are sick. You're a sick puppy. Okay, 564 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: maybe not your mom, but his mom's double What about 565 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: my mom? The ox Nark PD for like seventeen years 566 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: and she grew up in the area. The cop knows 567 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: who she is. She's former police. No, no, no, no, no, 568 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: the guy the cop has been there for that long 569 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: and she's lived got you. They know each other. So 570 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: he tried to get her daughter or something in her 571 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: younger days. You know, she got into some trouble. But 572 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: we're talking twenty fifteen years ago, you know, and now 573 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: she's she actually works with she works with homeless. She 574 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: does a bunch of a bunch of ship for the 575 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: community and stuff. And she was like saying, I can't 576 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: believe he said that he knows me. We know each other. Yea. 577 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: And so he's got the blue shirt on the badge 578 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: tells it all. And how do you how did the 579 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: judge just believe a cop that's something that sound? You 580 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: know what, there's always filmed the police. Thank you filmed 581 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: the police star movement. I mean, you know, I mean 582 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: when we fought my son's both his felony cases years ago, 583 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: there was no way we would have won unless it moved. 584 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: We had there was filmed, and thank god in both 585 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: cases there was filming audio. Thank god, there's no way 586 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: we would have won that, right. What's a good thing? Blue? 587 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: Keep everybody from loving. Let's get out of here. That story. 588 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm done with it. Well, you know, always film the police. 589 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: Shout out to Mr Checkpoint. You know um for creating 590 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: that movement, that movement, UM, and then wait one more 591 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: market whatever I want to because I just pulled up 592 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: to the hospital. I want to really Greek leave the 593 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: mother in law. Can't we do that on the next 594 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: show real quick? Can we do it right now? Hold on, 595 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: we'll come back to it. We'll come back to it. 596 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: We'll just what second, We'll be right away after that break. No, 597 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: we'll see you guys later. Say some guys who you 598 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: can't talk at the well, remember this to tell it out. 599 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: Flux you we do. Thank you for listening to Cannabis 600 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: Talk one on one on the I Heart Radio app, 601 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.