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Speaker 1: Welcome. Its verdict was Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson with you, Senator.

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Speaker 1: The House has adjourned until Friday after an eleventh failed

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Speaker 1: vote to come up with a speaker. Deals are being made,

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Speaker 1: they're saying, or trying to get done behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: and then there's some people that are deciding to call

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Speaker 1: people in their own party terrorists. Representative Dan Crnshaw said,

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Speaker 1: this get another scalp and another scalp, whether it's whether

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Speaker 1: it's Byner or Paul Ryan or then McCarthy. Scalise would

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Speaker 1: just be next. And we all know it. We just

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Speaker 1: can't allow that to happen. That's why those of us

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Speaker 1: are saying, like, look, you push us into this corner.

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Speaker 1: So now we're now we're saying we won't vote for

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Speaker 1: anyone but McCarthy. That's why we're saying it because we

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Speaker 1: cannot let the terrorists win. That's basically what's happening. Since

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Speaker 1: you and I talked last time, Senator, I didn't think

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Speaker 1: any of this could actually happen. I didn't think we'd

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Speaker 1: get to vote eleven. Here we are, we're going into Friday,

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Speaker 1: it could be into the weekend. There are people now

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Speaker 1: claiming that this is an embarrassment. I'm still not there yet.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to know what you think. I think that's

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Speaker 1: just part of the great process. Yeah, Look, my view

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Speaker 1: is settled down. This will work out and it'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: That that kind of overheated rhetoric calling people terrorists is

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Speaker 1: not terribly conducive to anything resembling Republican unity. It's it's

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Speaker 1: not conducive to having a strong leadership for the next

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Speaker 1: two years in the House. Engaging in vitriol and personal attacks. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the catterwalling we're hearing is

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Speaker 1: from the media, and it's from the Democrats. And to

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Speaker 1: be honest, the media and the Democrats are one and

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Speaker 1: the same, and they have an agenda. Their agenda is

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Speaker 1: to say the Republicans are a failure, the Republicans are terrible,

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Speaker 1: the Republicans are disaster. That's what they're going to say,

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Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter what is happening, that's going

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Speaker 1: screaming of the media, I think is is overwrought. This

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Speaker 1: is the democratic process, and it is true that we

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Speaker 1: haven't had a contested speaker race like this in a

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Speaker 1: hundred years, but it's also part of the way the

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Speaker 1: process operates. We've had at this point eleven different votes,

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's run a couple of days. The

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Speaker 1: all the Democrats voted together. First round, Hakim Jeffries, who's

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Speaker 1: It takes two eighteen to be speaker. Hakim Jeffries is

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Speaker 1: not going to be speaker. It's going to be a

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Speaker 1: Republican speaker. Kevin McCarthy got two hundred and three, and

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Speaker 1: there were a collection of people. Ten Republicans voted for

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Speaker 1: that was the first round. The second round, the numbers

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Speaker 1: and so he's likewise said that he doesn't want the job,

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Speaker 1: You know, my reaction to all the histrionics is this

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Speaker 1: McCarthy has been making concessions to the dissenters, making concessions

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Speaker 1: probably the ringleader of the dissenters has been Chip Roy

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Speaker 1: he's been focused on the rules. He's been focused on

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Speaker 1: One very significant concession that that McCarthy made on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: That's a big deal, that commitment. When you said that's

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Speaker 1: I mean all four of those they got clawberd and

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Speaker 1: it's Corey Bush or Dick Durbin, when they see a

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Speaker 1: I'll say this as an Hispanic there is some of that.

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Speaker 1: It's not nearly as nasty being an Hispanic Republican as

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Speaker 1: But uh, but you know, I had Jorge Ramos on

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Speaker 1: I believe in securing the border. I mean, it's there's

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Speaker 1: a nastiness. And unfortunately when you have someone you know,

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Speaker 1: when Byron Donalds was was not needed and actually Chip

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Speaker 1: Roy was nominating him, he pointed out a Kim Jeffreys

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Speaker 1: had been nominated. He said, this is the first time

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Speaker 1: in the history of our cree that two black, black

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Speaker 1: people African Americans have been nominated to be Speaker of

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Speaker 1: the House. And there was significant applause in the House

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Speaker 1: at that I mean, that is meaningful and positive, but

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Speaker 1: it drives the Democrats crazy. They cannot acknowledge. To the

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Speaker 1: leftists Byron Donalds is not black, Clarence Thomas is not black.

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Speaker 1: Tim Scott is not black. I'm not hispanic. Markt Rubio

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Speaker 1: is not Hispanic. You must be a leftist account in

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Speaker 1: their in their bean counting world. How is it that

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Speaker 1: not a single member of the media gets his tweet

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Speaker 1: and immediately goes and demands a comment from the Democratic

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Speaker 1: leadership because it is racist. It's very clearly racist, and

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Speaker 1: they act like it doesn't even happen, I mean even

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Speaker 1: and I would say the Washington, DC Capitol Hill Press

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Speaker 1: yet they just completely looked the other direction when a

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Speaker 1: member of Congress says something this racist in this moment

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Speaker 1: about an African American man who is who's been nominated

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Speaker 1: in a historic way, in a moment that has one

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Speaker 1: hundred push years of history involved in it, Well, look,

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Speaker 1: part of it is the media agrees with those same

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Speaker 1: an op ed the title of which was, Larry Elder

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Speaker 1: is the black face of white supremacy. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is nasty, and they do it over and over and

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Speaker 1: over again. It is particularly the hard left. They they

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Speaker 1: not only revel in racism, they know they won't get

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Speaker 1: called out on it from the press because the press

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's total silence on this one. And it's

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Speaker 1: one of those moments when you see the Democrats and

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Speaker 1: it reminds you of what you're up against across the aisle.

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Speaker 1: And they allowed this to fester within the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 1: Anytime a minority stands up that is a conservative, they

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Speaker 1: immediately lose their race and their minority status and they

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Speaker 1: do whatever they can to absolutely destroy them. Senator, it's

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Speaker 1: this has been a fun moment. As I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: master class, ask on all of this, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of history involved. I know people wanted to hear what

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Speaker 1: you thought about this, and I think the big takeaway

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Speaker 1: from you is this is okay, this is going to

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Speaker 1: play out and things are going to end well for us.

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Speaker 1: And don't take debate for the media implying this is

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Speaker 1: a national security risk or a health crisis risk. This

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Speaker 1: is totally fine. Look my message is simple, keep calm

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Speaker 1: and carry on. This is debate, this is democracy. It

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Speaker 1: will play out. It will resolve itself. I think it

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Speaker 1: most weeks. And I don't know how it will resolve it.

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Speaker 1: I have genuinely no idea what the resolution will be.

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Speaker 1: But I do think the process of elected members debating

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Speaker 1: going to conduct themselves. I think that debate is a

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Speaker 1: healthy thing in either House of Congress. It's gonna be interesting,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to watch crabs, some more popcorn.

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