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Speaker 1: Jimmy G. For a variety of reasons well, and that

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Speaker 1: felt like messaging from another place. I think they want

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Speaker 1: to move him, and you could maybe look at potentially

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. You could look at potentially a team like

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Speaker 1: Washington that is heat seeking a veteran quarterback or someone

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Speaker 1: out there. If not in the draft, we'll see, all right.

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Speaker 1: He's had significant interest though, I believe that, But I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be a high price. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how is Jimmy g coming off a shoulder surgery now

436
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Speaker 1: with this contract you know, quite quite a lot um.

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Speaker 1: How is he getting more than like a fourth round

438
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Speaker 1: pick for twenty three million dollars coming up a soldier.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just staying out of this. Shoulder surgery. Shoulder surgery,

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Speaker 1: shoulder surgery. You got it. There's a little hesitation, but

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Speaker 1: I understand the only guy I didn't sense any hesitation.

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Speaker 1: Patriots only got a second round pick for him when

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Speaker 1: he had all the talent in the world and no

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Speaker 1: injuries and all the all the upside. So there's no way.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say there may be a

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Speaker 1: number of people calling though, because there is a dearth

447
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Speaker 1: of available quarterbacks. We'll give you a late pick and

448
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Speaker 1: you give us your Jimmy g alright, everybody hold that thought.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break and be right back. And

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Speaker 1: other quarterback uncertainty news, Well, there's no uncertainty about the

451
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Speaker 1: Colts getting out from their current quarterback, Carson Wentz. That's happening.

452
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Speaker 1: It's been reported. We had Zach kieferan last week. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: reporting it that the cults are moving on. Chris Ballad,

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Speaker 1: the general general manager, had Wentz in his office today

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Speaker 1: for a one hour face to face meeting. But that

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Speaker 1: was pleasant, uh, And he said of the meeting, will

457
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how he goes from this, and

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Speaker 1: I think he will. So it's it's it's now the code.

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Speaker 1: He's coming out and saying this is over this relationship.

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Speaker 1: But Ballard made sure to tell reporters today that he

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Speaker 1: is not going to panic in this situation. They will

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Speaker 1: find someone that they feel comfortable with. And he believes

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Speaker 1: in himself. It's not in my nature. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: usually pretty objective and sitting back and not making like

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Speaker 1: just not making a panic move. And we won't like,

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Speaker 1: we will not just make a panic move. To make

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Speaker 1: a panic move. Y'all can kick me in the in

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Speaker 1: the face, and I promise you I am who I am,

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Speaker 1: I mean like and I have a lot of confidence

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Speaker 1: in myself. I don't know if you'll have gotten out,

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Speaker 1: but I do. And I have a lot of confidence

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Speaker 1: in the people around me, in Frank, in our coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: my face, I mean kicking him in the face a

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Speaker 1: thousand hundred times. That's not going to help the cults.

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Speaker 1: It's five years now more greg that we watched Ballard

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Speaker 1: on the podium right here in this room for the

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Speaker 1: first time and thought to ourselves, this is an interesting dude.

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Speaker 1: He is an interesting guy. He's a a lover of

479
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: Broadway plays. I've heard, he's multifaceted, and he's put a

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Speaker 1: good roster together. He's in an unwinnable situation answering questions

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Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz right now. We were listening to Frank,

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Speaker 1: Greig Mark and I and he was just saying, you know,

483
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Speaker 1: trying not to answer it, and just hey, whoever is

484
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Speaker 1: there whatever hand uh that you're dealt with, you just

485
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Speaker 1: try to do the best job with it. And I'm thinking, like, well,

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Speaker 1: you can deal yourself the Carson Wentz hand, you like,

487
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Speaker 1: that's a choice. You guys actually gave him a two

488
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Speaker 1: year contract and it's financially very difficult to get rid

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Speaker 1: of him. So like it's not just like, oh, well,

490
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Speaker 1: see what hand I'm dealt. Well, you can deal yourself

491
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks the poker analogy, there's yeah, they pushed their

492
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Speaker 1: chips to the center of the table on Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: They gave up draft assets, they took on that contract

494
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Speaker 1: and took on a guy that seemed to have some

495
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: scars on him, and it turned out it didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: So now they are yes in that crunch of so

497
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: many other teams where the roster seems ready to win now,

498
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: but without that quarterback, you're kind of stuck in purgatory.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call what they did last offseason hubris because

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Speaker 1: I think that there was genuine faith that the pairing

501
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: of Frankrson Wentz I didnied. I think I think that

502
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: half the people that cover football did not, and have to.

503
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: There was this offseason debate about always suddenly Carson Wentz

504
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: in this great situation and a great fit. And look

505
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Speaker 1: at his season was not terrible, and he had some

506
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: serious meltdown moments, but seven interceptions all year. It wasn't

507
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: like a turnover. Pron put together an amazing sizzle reel

508
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: of our podcast through the season where we alternate killing

509
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: him and saying, wow, they nailed this, Like there is

510
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: they flipped let's say they let's say you flipped out?

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Speaker 1: That's you? You can you get on that, Carson wentz

512
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: good or not? Sizzle real? Yeah, starting take it through January,

513
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: just comb through every show. Maybe said it maybe one

514
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Speaker 1: and a half speeds. Make sure you don't miss I

515
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: was actually just on the what Greg just said about

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I'll get on that right away. Justin Randy,

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Speaker 1: you guys hear that. Yeah, Um, I was looking at

518
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Speaker 1: my tweets from the last time we were here two

519
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Speaker 1: years ago, and there's a there's a photo of me

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00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: and I like did a face mask in my hotel room. Well,

521
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: you guys all went to dinner because I had to

522
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: edit the show, and I was like remember that, and

523
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: you guys had like the greatest dinner and I couldn't go.

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Speaker 1: You were sifting through tweets from two years ago for

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Speaker 1: photos of yourself? No, you know, I was sifting through

526
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Speaker 1: tweets because I remember I used to do that bit

527
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Speaker 1: with everyone because they're always wearing their colors, like they're

528
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Speaker 1: all they're dressed from head to toe bills and or

529
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Speaker 1: like you know Cardinals, And he used to ask them like, hey,

530
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Speaker 1: who are you here with? And I was trying to

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Speaker 1: find those videos, but there they were too long ago.

532
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Speaker 1: Like I check like that. You've got to just bring

533
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: it back every retweeting it every every every year talking

534
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: about all these quarterback possible changes are. Ron Rivera spoke

535
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Speaker 1: just as we were talking, that's how you know a

536
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Speaker 1: real journals right behind and I just I think his

537
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: answer to the question of could you pay too much

538
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Speaker 1: in a quarterback trade or how much is too much?

539
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: And he just said, does anybody care what they paid

540
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford last year? No? Uh? And they were

541
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Speaker 1: one of the teams that were trying to get Matthew Stafford.

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00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: And I just think more than any team out there,

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Speaker 1: if I had to choose a team that would give

544
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Speaker 1: up four first round picks for someone Kyler Murray or

545
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Speaker 1: whatever it is, and veterans Chase you know, Chase Young,

546
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: we've heard could even be available, like Washington is the team? Uh.

547
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: And he was asked also if big name quarterbacks might

548
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: be chade he said, that's what we're trying to find out.

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00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: I just feel like they are the team that would

550
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: be the most aggressive. But I I just don't see

551
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: the trade partner. There's no there's very little heat that

552
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: anyone's allowing them to pick up the phone and be

553
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: plied into a trade. Yes, we'll give you Aaron Rodgers.

554
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: Like Washington fans, they want to hear. But Russell Wilson's

555
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: that it doesn't want to I like it. Well, Russell

556
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: Wilson shot down the idea of it today that like

557
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: we got a little cranky Cessla right now. I like

558
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: when there's a little crimudgeon that this was because you

559
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: know what, because it's a lot Actually it's there is

560
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: There is some news, but there's a lot of non news.

561
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: It's our job to dig through the right and I

562
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: find a lot of it. I find a lot of

563
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: it to be fluff. Well, we're No'm okay, No, this

564
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: is the search for the nugs right out. We've got

565
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Speaker 1: the interviews coming. It's we've we've been here, you know,

566
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: for we're doing at the end of the day here

567
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: on this riser. So I think you get a little

568
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: that's also I was, you know, in the Atlanta airport

569
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: and offered a thousand dollars to fly but flew here

570
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: to do this. I'm enjoying myself. But what about the

571
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: fact that that the NFL, Yeah, they bought that ticket,

572
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: so you know the thousand dollars because you know, because

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Speaker 1: I would be the person who would be enduring an

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Speaker 1: extra day in a hotel that the airline paid for

575
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: before flying here. Well, I think you should split it

576
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: with him. I know he makes a lot of money,

577
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: but he would be happy. There's there's a lot of

578
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: ethical gray area in the NFL. I would be allowed

579
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: to contribute some of that myself. In other quarterback purgatory news,

580
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: General George Peyton of the Denver Broncos he knows there

581
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: are another team. This is kind of an annoying event

582
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: for the Broncos because everyone is saying the same thing. Guys,

583
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: get a quarterback. Jesus fine, do it. And so that's

584
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: what all the questioning is all about. Uh So here's

585
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: what Peyton had to say, uh making it very clear

586
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: that yes, the Broncos will come out of this offseason

587
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: with someone new and shiny under the tree. We just

588
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: want the best guy. We don't care if it's free. Agency.

589
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: We don't care if it's a raft, we don't care

590
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: if it's a trade. You know, we're just gonna we're

591
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: gonna exhaust all options to try to get the best

592
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: guy for the Broncos. But more importantly, and that everybody

593
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: knows it. They they are looking for better play at

594
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: the position and hopefully they find it, whether it's a draft,

595
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: free agency, or a trade. But more importantly here Greg,

596
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: and this, I think this will cheer you up. Mark

597
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: seeing Nathaniel Hackett on a riser, There is there there,

598
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: here's breaking news. You want to get through the fluff

599
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: and get the nug. Mark Sessler as a new man

600
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: crush at head coach and it's Nathaniel Hackett. Take us

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00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: through watching that man, a fascinating human being who doesn't

602
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: necessarily speak the way that most coaches we've come to

603
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: know speak. He has at some point in his life

604
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: he had to make a decision whether to be I

605
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: think it was a neuroscientist and go to med school, um,

606
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: become a coach, or become a hip hop dancer, um

607
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: operating in various hip hop environments. And that feels like

608
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: a joke, the last one. And he's like, you know

609
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: what our friend Connor Or was here. I was standing

610
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: next to Connor while we were listening. Connor ruled up

611
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: to me and said, this is our new guy, and

612
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: I was like, bingo, yes it is. He was. He

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00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: was a hip hop dance instructor at U c L,

614
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: a apparent absolutely and a career path though you better.

615
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: Honor did a long form on him and Doug into

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Speaker 1: all this and actually said that it was a couple

617
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Speaker 1: of months ago. He flew out and like spent just

618
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: days walking around with Nathaniel Hackett, who is truly an

619
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Speaker 1: interesting speaker the way he presents himself. We need more

620
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: of those in the NFL, and he's one of them.

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Speaker 1: I hesitate to say this, Mark because I know you

622
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: like that, you like it when it's your guy. But

623
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Speaker 1: I was watching I felt the same thing too. I

624
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: found myself falling for I can't have anything. I cannot

625
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: have anything to myself. Yeah, you still got rule. We're

626
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: actually too to the day of when you first really

627
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: fell for Matt Roue. I got the full backstory of it.

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00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I had known that. Just

629
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: you know that he he was a fan of your

630
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Speaker 1: work and that was really, what did it? That is

631
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: a false best story, that's entirely a compliment was paid

632
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: at a darkened corner of the tavern. It does not

633
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: take much to win myself over. So yeah, you're welcome

634
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: to ride this this this with just take normally you

635
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: take the slow, slow a role on this guy. I

636
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: like this enthusiasm because I was I slowed my role

637
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: also on Brandon Staley because that was your crush last year.

638
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: And I feel like pretty okay about that right now

639
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: he wins. The press certainly gives good was a little

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Speaker 1: tingle for Hack, all right. I like that tingles good

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Speaker 1: alright in other news, I mean hip hop dancer just

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't just you're going somewhere strange with that.

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Speaker 1: Now where I'm going is he was gonna be a

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Speaker 1: neuroscientist or uh, follow in his father's footsteps as like

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Speaker 1: one of the you know, most famous offensive coaches West

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Speaker 1: Coast offense originators Paul Haggett or hip hop dancer. I

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Speaker 1: failed to believe that that was ever a realistic The

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Speaker 1: other two, you know, Greg, you're two cynical. It's you're

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Speaker 1: just it's very much a possibility that he has an

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Speaker 1: artistic dance side to him. It's a good bio nugget

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Speaker 1: at the very least. Um. Finally, Oh, Giants general manager

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Speaker 1: Joe Shane on se Kwon Barkley and the idea of

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Speaker 1: a trade We're open to anything clock that track that

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Speaker 1: that and uh finally the trade partner finally in the news.

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Speaker 1: See I think if he was in the right spot

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Speaker 1: as long as his bodies I'm just being annoying. I

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Speaker 1: keep thinking the partner like, find a trade comma partner.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to find something that will light mark up

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Speaker 1: with optimism. It's it's been tough. Uh. Finally the news.

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Speaker 1: It's time for news and notes presented by up work,

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Speaker 1: where you can build the team that will build your business.

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Speaker 1: Learn more at upwork dot com. Oh yes, you know

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Speaker 1: this is near and dear to us. The International Series

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Speaker 1: for two was announced and we go in a Germany,

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Speaker 1: Baby Deutschland, Baby Deutsche. Now are we going? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Vice President of International Henry Hodgson.

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Speaker 1: Heavy campaign too. We would love to go. But five

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Speaker 1: NFL teams will play international games in three countries, highlighted

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Speaker 1: by the Packers first international trip and the Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers playing the first ever regular season game in Germany,

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Speaker 1: the league announces a Monday, the Cardinals will play in

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Speaker 1: the NFL's first game in Mexico since two thousand nineteen.

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Speaker 1: While the Packers will be joined by the Jagson Saints

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Speaker 1: and playing games in the UK are adopted homeland, the

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Speaker 1: Bucks will debut in Germany. How about this, Greg, I

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Speaker 1: know you have roots in the Deutsche Land. I know

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Speaker 1: this must really hit. I do want to go. I

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Speaker 1: do want to go. My dad was born in Germany.

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Speaker 1: My brother is bizarrely a citizen, even though he's ever

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Speaker 1: really ever been there. But because you could get that

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Speaker 1: with what's the word for it. But I'm struggling eternal something, yeah,

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Speaker 1: born to born? Was he born there? Reparation reparation that

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Speaker 1: it was like a multi year process for what payoff.

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Speaker 1: I probably wasn't gonna live there, But I want to

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Speaker 1: go visit and watch this game. And I know the

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Speaker 1: Deutsch LAMB listeners out there, they'll huck us up and

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Speaker 1: support the sendates. Let me play the role you want

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Speaker 1: me to play. But I only lack America. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to go there. I wish you could see what

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Speaker 1: Dan is doing this body right now that Dan's like,

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Speaker 1: and then Mark's like, Hey, I was in Germany with

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Speaker 1: Rob Roll and I connected with him on it. I'll

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Speaker 1: drop another little nugget on you. Back in the day,

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Speaker 1: when you know Sessler is a German last name, it

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Speaker 1: means chairmaker, and Wesleyan is German, and we and I,

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Speaker 1: he and I both looked up the origins of Cessler,

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Speaker 1: which was Cecilberg and Wesselberg, I believe, which were about

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Speaker 1: eighteen miles away from each other back in the day.

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Speaker 1: That means thousands of years ago, ancient West and ancient

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Speaker 1: Me probably walked eighteen miles and drank beers together in

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Speaker 1: a German beer hall. I thought I was part German

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Speaker 1: for the first like twenty years of my life, and

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Speaker 1: then I found out that I was Austrian, which is close, right,

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Speaker 1: So we're very close stones throw, I mean not a

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Speaker 1: maybe you're on the border stones. My brother did a

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Speaker 1: lot of research into it, and they were there for

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Speaker 1: two hundred years because it was like they had their

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Speaker 1: roots in Germany. This time his citizenship. Then, I don't

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Speaker 1: invalidate it. It just seems we spotted it down. It

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Speaker 1: seems rand maybe he should be here before you take down.

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Speaker 1: It seems random. Wait can I throw out just a

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Speaker 1: couple of quiets before? Before that? Greg? That was news

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Speaker 1: and no, it's presented by upwork, the world's work marketplace.

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Speaker 1: Learned more at upwark dot com. Close this out, Greg,

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00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: before we get trying to be fast fast about it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones was not um committed to Marie Cooper being

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Speaker 1: on the Cowboys this year. I think that's the notable

718
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Speaker 1: the number one actual star slash superstar that could actually

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Speaker 1: be traded or cut. I think there would be a

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Speaker 1: great trade market for him. But them throwing that out

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Speaker 1: there publicly is something, and I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: You boy. Andrew Berry not surprisingly vague about Jarvis Landry's

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Speaker 1: future mark, but also said it's too early to say

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Speaker 1: whether ad competition for Baker Mayfield, which to me strikes

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Speaker 1: me as they're gonna have a like soft competition. I

726
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Speaker 1: think they've always been very open to a like if

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Speaker 1: the world were a little different, maybe go get the

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson out there, which sounds like probably not happening,

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00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: but competition, yes. I think that they also look at

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Speaker 1: the landscape and say Baker Mayfield healthy, the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna roll with it. They should go get a

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Speaker 1: Marie Cooper. I just you know, putting that together, they

733
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Speaker 1: got all the cap space, they got all the need

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Speaker 1: and the worst wide receiver room in the league. That

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00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: makes sense. Did you have a Ron Rivera thing you

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Speaker 1: wanted to mention? We we got that in but a

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Speaker 1: few minutes ago. I think his mind is on other things.

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Speaker 1: I think his mind is on the woman that is

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Speaker 1: not in his bed, as usually is the case, now

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Speaker 1: that they lived together in not Ron Rivera. We're discussing, right,

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Speaker 1: And also we shouldn't be dessessing any of this because

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Speaker 1: it is it has been barred from conversation, and it

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Speaker 1: should be noted that I means summer of the Superstar Club.

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00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Very bold decision to take Amari Cooper out of the

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00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: Superstar Club, and now he might be out of Dallas's

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Speaker 1: plans going forward. Connect the dots if you must. All right,

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Speaker 1: I think we got everything. That's what's happening in the news.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a break and then get to the general

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Speaker 1: manager of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Kevin cold All right, We're

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Speaker 1: very fortunate to be joined now by a man that

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, a towering figure in terms of building

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Speaker 1: one of the top teams in the a f C

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00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: this for two decades. Kevin Colbert joins the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL podcast, general manager of the Steelers at least for

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Speaker 1: a couple more months. How are you, Kevin? Doing great? Guys?

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00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: How about yourselves doing well? Yeah? We were talking how

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Speaker 1: it's like feeling a little back to normal here at

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Speaker 1: the Combine. Like you were, you just looking to check off,

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Speaker 1: like one more box in your career checklist by joining

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Speaker 1: me Around the NFL podcast Before you that was your

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Speaker 1: last thing. It had to be that to check off list,

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Speaker 1: the bucket list, whatever it is. But as you mentioned, Greg,

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Speaker 1: it's great to be back in Indianapolis and at the

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Speaker 1: Combine and almost normal conditions. Uh. It's great for our game,

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Speaker 1: uh to take this this big part of the process,

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Speaker 1: to take that step again. And I just that's exciting

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Speaker 1: to be back here and and hopefully moving toward more normalcy.

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Speaker 1: So Ben Roethlisberger retires after the conclusion season. A day later,

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Speaker 1: it's announced that you will be stepping down and retiring,

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Speaker 1: uh with the Steelers as well. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting, Big Ben. Obviously two thousand four first

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Speaker 1: round pick, and then you got to enjoy what I

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Speaker 1: guess every GM longsport is like not having to worry

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00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position. So this last draft you have

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00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: here is different, isn't it? Because obviously all the talk

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Speaker 1: or a lot of the talk around Pittsburgh is what

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Speaker 1: do we do now post Big Ben? Yeah, and it's not, Um,

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Speaker 1: it's not ignored by us that you know, the one

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Speaker 1: year there was three Hall of Fame quarterbacks available. You know,

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Speaker 1: fortunately we were thank you for putting Philip Rivers in.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that means a lot to me personally,

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Speaker 1: and now I mean, in our opinion, that's an easy

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Speaker 1: three Hall of famers. And that was the one losing

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Speaker 1: season we had, and there was fortunate there was three

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00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: available we were able to get one. Ben was with

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Speaker 1: us for eighteen years. He obviously helped us be successful.

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Speaker 1: So as we move forward, how can we do that again?

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Speaker 1: I think what we can't do is try to misidentify

789
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: potential replacements and say their franchise quarterbacks. Um, nobody knows

790
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Speaker 1: if you're a franchise quarterback until you get in and

791
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: improve it. So we'll try to make the best decisions

792
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: at that position, and if they turn into franchise quarterbacks,

793
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: it's more on them and not the people who selected them.

794
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: I do feel like we've heard Mike Tomlin in the

795
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Speaker 1: towards the end of the season talk about the concept

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00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: of a mobile quarterback. He seemed attracted to that. You've

797
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: talked about Mason Rudolph stepping in potentially as the week

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Speaker 1: one started seeing how the cards fall. I mean, I

799
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Speaker 1: think with like just you know, certain Steelers fans are

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Speaker 1: bumping a little bit on the idea of Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 1: being more than maybe a bridge quarterback. Are would you

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Speaker 1: maybe look at the draft or someone like Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 1: and say, we might make a bold move that people

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Speaker 1: aren't expecting at this point to go get the guy

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00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: that we really fall in love with. Whenever we identify

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00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: any position, there's an ideal mold that we all look for, Um,

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Speaker 1: a six five tackle with thirty five inch arms and

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00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: so on and so for quarterback mobile, Sure, if that's

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00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: a big part of them, but all of them have

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Speaker 1: a different characteristic that there that is their strength and

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Speaker 1: this this group is no different. So we won't lock

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Speaker 1: ourselves in. Sure, you may have an ideal picture of

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Speaker 1: what that quarterback might be, but you can't lock the

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Speaker 1: door on any given one because you don't know who

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Speaker 1: will be available to you. It's a little different in

816
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: free agency if you can allocate those cap dollars. Same

817
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: thing with it, as you mentioned maybe trading up in

818
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Speaker 1: a draft. What we try to always do is not

819
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Speaker 1: only say well, it's the first and third round pick,

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Speaker 1: or if it's a it's a third and the six. Well,

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Speaker 1: that third and six might be Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown,

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Speaker 1: we don't know. We try to put actual names from

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Speaker 1: the projected class into the and into those discussions and

824
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Speaker 1: try to say this, this group might be the best,

825
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: and just try to make each individual decision. Yeah, history

826
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Speaker 1: says you probably aren't. Trading really hasn't happened a lot

827
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Speaker 1: under under you as the GM. You did make that

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Speaker 1: trade for Minko it Patrick. I heard you on the

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Speaker 1: podium say there are starting quarterbacks in this draft, though,

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Speaker 1: that you're confident in that whether they'll be around you

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Speaker 1: know when you pick or not. We'll see. Do you

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Speaker 1: feel any any heat because you know your rival in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: Ozzy Newsom, on his way out his last draft, he

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Speaker 1: did get a quarterback. He wasn't even his first pick

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Speaker 1: in that draft. He took Kate to Hurst and then

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. You feel that the heat from Bozzy that

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Speaker 1: you gotta match him by finding the quarterback of the

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Speaker 1: future on your way out. We're very well aware of

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the in the a f C North.

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Speaker 1: You know, Coach Thomon always talks about we have right

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Speaker 1: three Heisman winning quarterbacks to compete against in the a

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Speaker 1: f C North. It's but again, we can't just say

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Speaker 1: this has to be a franchise guy. We just we

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Speaker 1: just picked as who who we are, or pick who

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Speaker 1: they are and hope that they turn into that. But

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Speaker 1: we won't lock ourselves in. I mean, those guys are

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00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks and they're young, and that's that's the unfortunate part.

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Speaker 1: That's great for those organizations. But now we have to

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Speaker 1: continue to compete. UM, and we're excited to see what

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Speaker 1: Mason can do on a sixteen games format if he's

851
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: the guy Dwayne Haskins, Um, Dwayne can come in and

852
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: compete and maybe maybe he's that guy. But they have

853
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: to prove themselves over sixteen games. All right, So alright,

854
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real with you, Kevin, because and you're

855
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: retiring anyway, so you don't care, right, you can say

856
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: whatever you want at this point when we talked about

857
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: on our podcast, because with the reports that came out

858
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: that you had said that, you know, right where we

859
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: stand here, Mason Rudolph makes sense as a quarterback. I'm paraphrasing,

860
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: you have no plans to sell out to replace Ben Roethlisberger.

861
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: But in terms of the Mason Rudolph question, again, like

862
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: sometimes we call it a trope alert when you hear

863
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: a front office officials say, oh, yeah, where we are

864
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: right now, we're perfectly happy with Mason Rudolph. That's the

865
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: trop alert. But then what we translate that is to

866
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: try hard to upgrade off that position and get somebody

867
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: new in there. So like I feel almost certain personally,

868
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: there will be a new quarterback of the Steelers. That's

869
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Right. Well, again, if if we started today,

870
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: Mason's our starter, and we're comfortable with Mason being our starter. Um, again,

871
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: I referenced five four and one over his first nine starts.

872
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: If you look back over the quarterbacks in history and

873
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: look at their first eight, nine, ten games, that record

874
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: compares pretty favorably. Um Ben was the one outlier because

875
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: he's still you know, when Tommy Maddox got hurt and

876
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: he was forced into the line up, he goes fifteen

877
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: and one, So that was unusual. Most of the starting

878
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks early in their careers, they don't have winning records,

879
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: and that's that's something that over time again Mason will

880
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: have to prove it. Does that mean we're not going

881
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: to look at options. No, And he knows that we've

882
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: talked about that on his exit interviews. He understands that

883
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: he's going to not be given anything and there could

884
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: be competition either from within or from outside. Right. I

885
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: think there's quietly a lot of free agent quarterbacks that

886
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: are pretty solid, that have started a lot of games

887
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: that could that could be uh competition, Like, you don't

888
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: need to start the season right now, you don't need

889
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: to settle the questions. There's free agency and then there's

890
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: a draft. Sometimes you guys, you pick up guys right

891
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: before the season, like Joe Hayden, our our friend here,

892
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: Mark is a Browns fan and one of the things

893
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: that like you've done so much damage, right, yeah, you know,

894
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: thank you for the past twenty years. We we have

895
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: been next to him in the newsroom during you know, Sundays,

896
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: and it's tough. It's tough on us, it's tough on Mark.

897
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: But his biggest fear, I feel like, more than anything

898
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: on the Brown fan is when a player leaves and

899
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: then as a success elsewhere. And so when you signed

900
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden and he turned into one of the best

901
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: free agent signings in Steelers history, I mean that that

902
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: was sort of hitting the bulls I right there for

903
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: Brown's fan pain, like do you about that, Kevin? And

904
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: but that that can happen as you reference, and we

905
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: we always have to be open, you know, our personnel

906
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: department has to know. We know what the what the

907
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent classes as of today, A lot of

908
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: those players will sign prior to the start of free agency.

909
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: A lot of them will be franchise or transition, so

910
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: that will change. And then when people sign or people draft,

911
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: they may be cutting players and it's our job to

912
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: make sure that we're ready to add a player like

913
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: a Joe Hayden if he's available. So I I really

914
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: don't know everybody that will be available, and it's our

915
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: job to keep up with it. I mean, speaking of Ohio,

916
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: is it annoying that the Bengals are good again? Hey?

917
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: Give them their give them their due. They put together

918
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: a ary you know Duke too, and put together very

919
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: good team, a Super Bowl UM participant. I know they

920
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: would have obviously love to have won it. But to

921
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: get where they are, Um, everybody's looking up from the

922
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: a f C. So good for them. Uh, it's our

923
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: challenge to try to get back up there with them.

924
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: It's any how do how does the okay? So, how

925
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: does the transfer of power work with this? Like? Is

926
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: there a remember like when let's use well, I'll use

927
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: for some reason, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush

928
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: when you had the eight years, then the vice president

929
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: gets elected? A smooth process? Uh, you can mention ozzyk Newsom,

930
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: Eric da Costa. Um, how does it work when there's

931
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: a general manager that's overseeing the draft process, free agency

932
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: and then steps away? How do you ensure this continuity

933
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: for the next guy who takes over whoever that is? Yeah,

934
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: that's something that honestly we discussed myself, Art Roney and

935
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: coach Tomlin. I would be involved, but I may not

936
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: be with that team that we put together and I

937
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: think there's a great trust that we're all going to

938
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: make the right decisions collectively, and that's what we've done

939
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: throughout our history and we will we will do that

940
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: for this and hopefully we put that team together and

941
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: it'll be a team we can all look at and

942
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: be proud of. This is your last you know, free

943
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: agent period, your last combine, your last drap. Yeah, I noticed,

944
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: yet you have more salary cap space than I can

945
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: ever remember the Steelers haven't. Do you just want to

946
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: like go out wild, just like spend a lot of money.

947
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: Steelers are really known for doing that, but just like

948
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: throw your money on the table and like get wild.

949
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it is it's an unusual, um. And again

950
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: we don't know an exact amount, but we know we're

951
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: confident we'll have more room than we've ever had and

952
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how many years, and we'll try to

953
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: make those best decisions, not only with unrestricted free agents,

954
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: with maybe our own people that we want to keep,

955
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: So we'll try to put that all together. It is unusual, Um,

956
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's the it was to be expected. Coming

957
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: out of last year. We had a big free agent

958
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: class of pretty significant players, and we knew we were

959
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: going to be up against that cap. And then when

960
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: the cap went down because of the pandemic, we were

961
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: up against it even tougher. So this year, um, it

962
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: could be tempting, but we'll try to make the best,

963
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: most sound decisions before we say goodbye. Is this a

964
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: real retirement. Well, we've left the door. We've left it open. Uh.

965
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: And I again, I don't want to be whoever the

966
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: next person is. If I can help and not hinder, great,

967
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: but we're gonna leave it open um and or it

968
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 1: will make that final decision and and he's open, coaches open,

969
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: I'm open. But again, we want to be fair to

970
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: not only that person but to the organization. If it

971
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: makes sense to help great, if it's it's best if

972
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: I'm not here to help great too, because we'll make

973
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: that decision collectively for them. Would you jump over to

974
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: Cleveland's front office and a sort of lateral type us

975
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: a lot of information. They're good. Other people are tracking

976
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Willie or won't he I'm Kevin Colbert, Colbert, Kevin,

977
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: thank you so much, and congratulations on a great career.

978
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Than all right, there he goes Kevin Colbert you know,

979
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: you try to. I thought there might be a sliver

980
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: of opportunity as he headed into retirement. Although it sounds

981
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: like a Bruce arians leaves the Steelers retirement, but he's

982
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: also heavily involved in hiring the successor, who may or

983
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: may not be from the Steelers. So that's an interesting

984
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: like is he actually going fishing? I don't know the

985
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: way he didn't if I was an nfl um decision

986
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: maker like himself. I try to work for the Rooneys.

987
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: Who's better than to work for the Rooneyes. He's been

988
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: there for years. Tomlin has been there for fifteen years.

989
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: And consultant money, right, you get you hang around after

990
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: where it's like it's just like a family. You just

991
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: you get like a high six figure salary. That's literally

992
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: not it's a family only you get paid to be

993
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: in the family. Rights. He's earned it. He's ranked very

994
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: high on my GM rankings, which is coming out, I

995
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: believe in a couple of weeks year after year. One year,

996
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: I remember he was number one overall. I mean he was,

997
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: like we said, maybe it was a little strong in

998
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: the intro calling him a tower ring figure of the millennium,

999
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: but uh, I will say he's very successful. The Steelers

1000
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: have been for twenty straight years basically more or less

1001
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: um so that's deserving that he's high in the ranks.

1002
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: But Greg, your ability not to tell him that it

1003
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: felt like I missed opportunity this show that you are

1004
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: someone that gets it. It's gonna haunt me if you

1005
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: were to tell him. It does bother me when you

1006
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: think of the things and now it was. It was

1007
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: one of the things I was gonna say. But you

1008
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: see how the conversations flowing, you only have time for

1009
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: so much. But it maybe it would have made him

1010
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: feel awkward, like, hey, I like I think you're a

1011
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: great guy in my little list, and you've number one.

1012
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: Do you like me? I don't a very warm smile

1013
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: sitting next to him right here. If he made him

1014
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: laugh a lot, I wish he didn't didn't change his an.

1015
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: I do wish he wasn't a liar. He didn't need

1016
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: because I tell you what they are going. He's no

1017
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: plans to sell out. I look at this roster. T J.

1018
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: Watt ragining Defensive Player of the Year. Make if it's

1019
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Patrick cam Hayward, a running back on a rookie deal,

1020
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: good wide receiver corps. This is to me a wind

1021
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: now roster that doesn't need to go into QB purgatory.

1022
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: You have a window. Why not give up the farm

1023
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: and try to get that Matthew Stafford type guy. Maybe,

1024
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: but it's the same issue that the cults up. It's like,

1025
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: you can want to find a better quarterback. The Freegan

1026
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: have a first round pick. That makes it much that

1027
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: much Steelers down. I mean, in theory, wouldn't it be

1028
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: poetic if they took Kenny Pickett out of pit to

1029
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: become their starter. But they have to love that guy

1030
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: another U twenty. I mean, of course Mason Rudolphs their

1031
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: starter right now, but that's of course he is, like

1032
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, and of course he's gonna face competition. I

1033
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: think that goes without saying. It might be a veteran

1034
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: Anna rookie and what a sellout mean, there's about ten

1035
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: free agent quarterbacks that have started a decent amount of

1036
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: games in the NFL, and one of those guys is

1037
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: gonna be on the Steelers. Now. It could be like

1038
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: an upside of a Winston or a downside of someone

1039
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: way below that like Tyrode. But one of those guys

1040
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be on the Steelers and you might not

1041
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: have to sell up for anyone. I get it, But

1042
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: what are the other options? They're not they're not, Hey,

1043
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: here's Russell Wilson. Yes, our next two first round picks,

1044
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: and make it Fitzpatrick or three first round picks. Go

1045
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: get find a way to get Kyler or Russell Wilson,

1046
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: hell Kirk Cousins. Not gonna cost that much. But bring

1047
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: in someone that's actually a solution. Not in this there's

1048
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: a very this underbelly quarterbacks where there's just so many

1049
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: okay to maybe good guys, like if that's who they get,

1050
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: that's not going to get them over the over the

1051
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: top in the a f C. I start to think, though,

1052
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: we're coming out of this week finding out that Aaron

1053
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: Rodgers is going nowhere, Russell Wilson's going nowhere, Tom Brady

1054
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: is not coming back. The Bucks aren't trading for someone

1055
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: to come and be Tom Brady. Two point that they'll

1056
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: be lack of movement, not all these stunning trades which

1057
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: you just never know. Mark, I'm not saying we're gonna

1058
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: draft someone I would, I would. I'm putting a sandwich

1059
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: on it right now. The Steelers are drafting a quarterback

1060
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: to you know, to make because that's a bit of

1061
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: a cop out. I'll say in the first three rounds,

1062
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's safe. I feel like that's that's almost

1063
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: too safe. I'll say to the drafting a quarterback, I

1064
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: mean they will draft one. It's just Twayne Haskins. I think,

1065
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: like our friend Damn a check and others are would be.

1066
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: He says, they're starting quarterbacks in this class. Of course,

1067
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: there are like a lot of these classes where they

1068
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: look great, they end up in terrible, and a lot

1069
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: of classes I guess you know, where it's supposed to

1070
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: look bad, you end up finding some quarterback. I guess

1071
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: my take on it is that there's perhaps with this

1072
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: organization where they are now, there should be more urgency

1073
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: than taking a swing on a quarterback and a not

1074
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: a great quarterback class. As we're being told over and

1075
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: over again, have you heard about how small pickets hands are.

1076
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna get Lands air Line on the show, uh

1077
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: tomorrow to help us out, you know where the babes

1078
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: in the woods. Uh. We're learning about the draft class

1079
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: and Lance is kind of like he always helps us out,

1080
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: gets our feet wet as we start to figure out

1081
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: who potentially could be a quarterback that would make sense

1082
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Getting our feet wet I like that,

1083
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: get traded. Well, let's good to get his feet wet um.

1084
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: On the flight here, he thought he had downloaded the

1085
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: whole Scouting Combine research packeties he was going to read

1086
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: every single page. And then when he got on the plane,

1087
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: he said he realized it didn't work out. I had

1088
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: failed to download it to my to my iPhone. So

1089
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: we did make it feel better that you actually would

1090
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: have only read the first twelve pages and then got bored.

1091
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: That would be rich. I think I wouldn't go up

1092
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: up six or seven. Alright, Uh, we're not done yet.

1093
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: We have another excellent guest coming up, another general manager

1094
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: of an a f C superpower. Hell, you could argue

1095
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: general manager of the best team in football, Joe Douglass.

1096
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: You could do it. You can do it after this break.

1097
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: All right, here we go Brandon being general manager of

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00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: the Bills. This is a good one. This is ago.

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00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: We're very happy to have Brandon on. This is a

1100
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: team Brandon, that has their stuff together. I feel like

1101
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: the Bills are a model that other teams now seek

1102
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: to follow. Which if you if you're you know, twenty

1103
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: five years old, thirty years old, and you grew up

1104
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: with the Bills not being a functioning unit, that's all gone.

1105
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: The GM of the coach come together in two thousands seventeen,

1106
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: they draft and develop a quarterback. They smartly built the

1107
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: free agency and the draft, and now you have a

1108
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: superpower that just needs to take one more step. So

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00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: congratulations that there's question. I appreciate. It doesn't feel like

1110
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: congratulations till we can hold that trophy up. So we

1111
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: got work to do. Are you are you over? You

1112
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: know the thing I'm not. I was just talking to

1113
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: some of the other guys. I still haven't watched the film.

1114
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: I mean I've watched a few of the end plays,

1115
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: just seeing where guys were aligned and kind of walking

1116
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: through that and what the calls were on, you know,

1117
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, special teams or defense. But you know,

1118
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: you have to give Kansas City credit. They made some

1119
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: some really nice plays as well. And you know, we

1120
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: played well, we just didn't finish it and we gotta

1121
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: It's hard you got because you don't get a start

1122
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: up here. And that's what I've told the guys last

1123
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: year when we went to the NFC Championship game. Everybody's

1124
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: back to zero and zero and it's an important offseason

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00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: for us, don't you just why don't watch Josh Allen though?

1126
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: It's like two games, Like he was awesome that game tremendous.

1127
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: We watched it again. Yeah, you know what, I wish

1128
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: I could enjoy it, like I could watch the game before.

1129
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: You know how well he played against New England and

1130
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: and listen, it's uh Josh is is is great at quarterback.

1131
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: He he's a great human, great leader and he fits

1132
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo so well. And it was we were very fortunate

1133
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: to be able to trade up and get a guy

1134
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: like him where we got him. And um, you know,

1135
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: I think Josh is going to continue to working to ascend.

1136
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: He's he's not lost that chip on his shoulder that

1137
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: he's always had. You know, we all know he's been

1138
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: doubted through various steps. I mean Realley Junior College, but

1139
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean I I was so wrong about it. Our

1140
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: friend Chris Wesley and who's not here, UM believed in

1141
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: him from the get go, Like did you think he

1142
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: could be that? Because you're saying he's got to ascend.

1143
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's possible he was out of

1144
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: his body for those two games. I can't remember a

1145
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: quarterback playing as well for two playoff games in a

1146
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: row as Josh Allen did. Right then, when you took him,

1147
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: did you think it could be like that level from

1148
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to sit here and say

1149
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: this is exactly what I see. You're you're you're projecting,

1150
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: but I'll say this, Um, his smarts, his processing, We

1151
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: knew the physical talents. Um if you just watched his

1152
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: his film, if you broke down his games and truly said,

1153
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: all right, what would um, you know, what would Aaron

1154
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: Rodgers have done on this play while he's at Wyoming?

1155
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: Like what would like there's nothing there? Or you know

1156
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: what he just got out of Yeah, he threw the

1157
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: ball away. He's oh oh for one on this play,

1158
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: but he just avoided an eight yard sack to to

1159
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: throw the ball away, or he hit the receiver and

1160
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: literally you know one there was a play I remember

1161
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: they're playing in Iowa and he's back. He dodges a

1162
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: couple of guys like you saw him in the Kansas

1163
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: City game, steps up on the run. It's like a

1164
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: forty five yard post pattern. The guy's wide open and

1165
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: bounces off his chest. What he gets no for one,

1166
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: zero for one. There if you truly watched everything he

1167
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: did Um, instead of just stats, I think a lot

1168
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: of people got lost in the stat world and in so,

1169
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, I apologize. I mean I apologize to Josh

1170
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, formally, but now I'm gonna apologize to you.

1171
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm the whole team. Now you're you know what. Uh,

1172
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: that's that's what makes this business. Somebody asked me over

1173
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: there earlier when I was doing the media thing, was

1174
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, what's the you know, the pick the position

1175
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: that you know in you know, in any year that

1176
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: gets talked about or discussed the most, like his offensive line.

1177
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's quarterback like it's and I'm out

1178
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: talk about in the media. I'm talking about I can

1179
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: go back to that year. If you'd had five different teams,

1180
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: they probably would have taken five different quarterbacks that you

1181
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just everybody's got the guy

1182
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: they want, the type they want. And we just felt

1183
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: that Josh Um obviously we play in the elements. Um.

1184
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: He's very smart. We just felt he was chip on

1185
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: his shoulder. We know Western New York, everyone up there

1186
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: has a chip on their shoulder. Everything just meshed and uh,

1187
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: and he's been a great fit for Uce. I mean,

1188
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: one thing that he had from you know, day one

1189
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: was Brian Dable. You had that consistency. And we're in

1190
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: the era, in the age of the discontented quarterback Hyler

1191
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: Murray's going off. Everyone's upset about left, right, left or right.

1192
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, this situation is so good with him, But

1193
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: losing Brian Dable, what do you lose in terms of

1194
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: the in game play calling at that He did a

1195
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: great job at justin and tailoring, you know, into inside

1196
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: games to Josh's talents. Ken Dorsey's there. Tell us a

1197
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: little bit about Ken Dorsey in that transition. If you

1198
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: think that it can be as smooth as Bills fans

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01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: would hope. Yeah, I mean it's a really good question. Um,

1200
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, you always hate to lose good talent, but uh,

1201
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: you know you're happy for Brian and his opportunity to

1202
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: New York. The one thing is Dorsey. So Davil was

1203
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: here for four years, Dorsey's been here for three and uh,

1204
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: this was a new system for for Ken. This was

1205
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: not the same system we ran in Carolina with with

1206
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and you know, Mike Schula and so h.

1207
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: But Dorsey has taken on, learned this system. He'll have

1208
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: his own, you know, little nuances that that he does.

1209
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: But he and Josh, you know, he was in the

1210
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: room coaching Josh. They formed a great relationship and Josh

1211
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: just raves about Ken. Um, even a year ago, Dorsey

1212
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: was I mean, Davil was believed to, you know, have

1213
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: a chance a year ago and Josh was already lobbying.

1214
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: You know, I really think Ken can do this. And again,

1215
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 1: Sean and I have been around you know, Dorsey since

1216
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven back in Carolina. He's a hard worker. Uh,

1217
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: he played the position obviously had success, you know, major

1218
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: success at the college level. So you know, until he

1219
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: actually calls plays, it's like me, until you're sit in

1220
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: the gmcat. You have to prove yourself and there will

1221
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: be some bumps along the way. But Josh, it starts

1222
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: with Josh believing in Ken and Kim believing in Josh,

1223
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: and I think from there, um, you know, we're confident

1224
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: that it will work. It's it's crazy going back to

1225
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: the incredible efficiency and the outrageous level of offensive play

1226
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: in in the postseason for the Bills, Like as a GM,

1227
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: as a team builder along with Seawan, how tempting is

1228
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: it to say offense is set for the most part,

1229
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: let's put our focus elsewhere. But that's really not how

1230
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: it works ultimately right now. I mean, you want to

1231
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: keep your fastball and and uh, we know this team

1232
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: is built around Josh Allen, and so we want to

1233
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: we want to protect him, okay first and foremost, and

1234
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: then we want to give him weapons. But yeah, we

1235
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: we also want to get the other teams, you know,

1236
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks down Mahomes, Joe Burrow, you know all those guys,

1237
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: uh that we're gonna face. You know, the guys in

1238
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: our division. You know, we've got three teams that are

1239
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: trying to build around some some young guys now as well.

1240
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they've got their aisle on us. So, uh,

1241
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: we got our work cut out for us to try.

1242
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: And you know, we got a lot of free agents

1243
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: that you know, we'll see which ones we can get back,

1244
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have to make the right moves. Um.

1245
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: Not only you know with the guys here, you know,

1246
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 1: in the draft, but but finding some pieces to feel,

1247
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, some of the spots that we lose. You

1248
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: mean you mentioned the other you know, teams in the division.

1249
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: I I told my son last night. I was like, Oh,

1250
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna interview the Bills general manager tomorrow. Like what

1251
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: what should I ask him? He's seven years old? And

1252
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: he was like, I tell him, I don't like him.

1253
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: Um So I just want to know, like that if

1254
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: you take pride he's a Patriots fan, that you now

1255
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: take pride that like Key thinks of the Bills, he's

1256
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: young enough that the Bills are the big bad bullies

1257
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: of the division. Like what kind of feeling that gives

1258
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: you as a as a Bill's GM? Well, I love it.

1259
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: It's better that than than him feeling empathetic for me.

1260
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: Those guys don't know what they're doing or anything like that.

1261
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: So now it's uh, you have to give New England

1262
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. They were the the team that

1263
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: in my interview, I felt like we talked about a lot.

1264
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: You know, how do you how do you take them down?

1265
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: And you know what what was wrong here in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: and it was really you know the a f C East,

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets were constantly turning over. The Dolphins

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01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: were constantly turned over, and the Bills, and you know,

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01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: I think every team was doing Bill Belichick and Tom

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01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: Brady a favor and we've got to stop that, and

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01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: we've got to have a chance to build it the

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Speaker 1: right way. And when we've got to find a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And um, fortunately, you know, we landed Josh when we

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01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: had Sean McDermott on our show a number of owners

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01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: meetings ago, before all this happened, before the Bills became

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01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: what they are. Um, we were just impressed kind of,

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Speaker 1: I think with his personality and the way that he

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01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: just he to me, it seemed like a new age

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01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: type of coach, and you're a new age type of GM.

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01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: I know. He was, um a wrestler too. I mentioned

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01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: to him that I when I was in middle school,

1282
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: I lost to a girl in wrestling in uh seventh grade.

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01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: I think it was a bit uh humiliating. Well, let's

1284
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: say you and you and Sean mc dermott were in

1285
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: like a sort of a clash. If his gonna clash,

1286
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: he's winning that. I mean, you're both very fit men. Uh, Shawn,

1287
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: he's more fit than me. He eats better than me. Uh,

1288
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're both super competitive. What I would know

1289
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: to do is like he's gonna beat me in a

1290
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: wrestling all day long. I would know where to hide

1291
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: some weapons illegally to take it like the brass knuckles

1292
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: guy like Dino Bravo, or so I'm pulling something out

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01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: of my shoe. Um. Sorry, every interview we ever do,

1294
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: Mark ends up asking about men grappling. It's just I

1295
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Um. One last question I

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01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: have is you said on the riser that the Bills

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, are going to submit a

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01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: rule proposal, Uh, to change over time. I don't know

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01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: why the Bills would want to do that. I can't.

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01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: I can't piece that together the wilderness, But UM, could

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Speaker 1: you share You probably can't share what the proposal is,

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01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: but could you tell us how does the process work

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01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: behind the scenes for a team building out a proposal

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01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: that you then submit. Yeah, I mean we definitely talked

1305
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: to some of our peers around the league, UH, coaches,

1306
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: gms and listen. I talked to another gym that Senior

1307
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: Bowl and he said, I think there's gonna be about

1308
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: thirty to thirty two different proposals everybody wants it to change,

1309
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: and um, ultimately I think something will change to where

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01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: both teams do get the ball. You know, our proposal,

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01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, I feel strongly that we should consider, you know,

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: a time limit and play it out. You know, you

1313
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: know other leagues you get five minutes on the clock

1314
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: or you know major League Baseball. You know the way

1315
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: team gets to bat, then the home team gets too

1316
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: bad again, if you're still tied, you do it again. So, UM,

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01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't feel like at that, and

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01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking about postseason. I don't feel like in the postseason.

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01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: You know, you've played seventeen games. It's a long season

1320
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: that we should end on some some flute thing or

1321
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: a coin toss. You know, we want to see Josh

1322
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: Allen or Pat Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers, whoever is out

1323
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: there we want. So our proposal is gonna be play

1324
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: you know a certain time limit. Okay, you know in postseason.

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01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: I like that. That's football, Like football is with the

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01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: time limit, you try to outsgo him in a certain

1327
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: amount of time. But before you go, do you think

1328
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Jerry use Um has a good chance of being back?

1329
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: I kind of can't imagine Jerry Hughes playing anywhere else

1330
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: and just like where you kind of look at your

1331
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: your pass fresh right now with Mario Addison also a

1332
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: free agent. Yeah, I talked to Jerry and Mario this

1333
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: past week, called them both major respect for those guys

1334
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: and just, uh, we're gonna stay in touch through the process.

1335
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: And they are too. Um. I think both of them

1336
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: are kind of like, let's let's see what free agency is,

1337
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: let's get our value, and uh, they're both great players.

1338
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: They both will continue to play, I feel sure for

1339
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: one to three more years. Uh, and they both can play.

1340
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: So um, you know, we'd love to definitely work something out,

1341
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: but we'll we'll just kind of see how it goes.

1342
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: I still got some moves to make to get our

1343
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: cap in order before then, so kind of first things first,

1344
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: all right, Brandon being thank you for joining us, And

1345
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: just last thing, one to seven trillion. How annoying was

1346
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: it when the Chiefs at halftime of the a C

1347
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: title game disappeared and were plays by other guys in

1348
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: uniforms that had never played football? You know, I didn't.

1349
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch the game. I hear that, so I

1350
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: didn't know until it was over. Okay, okay, don't watch

1351
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: because it's even more fresh, right, I know what happened,

1352
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: all right, Brandon be in best of luck and beyond thanks. Thanks,

1353
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: all right, there he goes, Brandon Bean seems like a

1354
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: good dude, you know, easy to root for the Bills

1355
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: to get over that hub. But I totally get it.

1356
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: I totally get it not being able to watch that game,

1357
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: not being able to revisit the loss because you go

1358
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 1: through all this process from the combine to the draft,

1359
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: through summer camp to the season, and then you do

1360
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: everything right, it seems, and you still can't find a

1361
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: way to close it out. And everybody knows it's fleeting

1362
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: these opportunities. So the frustration, you understand that why watch

1363
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: on repeat like the worst forty five minutes of your

1364
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: entire life basically professionally. But coaches don't have the choice.

1365
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: The GM, the GM can society doesn't want to watch it.

1366
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: Coaches have to suffer through that. Yeah, Like I feel

1367
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: like there could have been five or six different teams

1368
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: that won the title if they redid the playoffs ten times.

1369
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: But the Bills to me were the team him that

1370
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: remember that series and that the missing rings on NFL

1371
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: and that one. All right, I will go to my

1372
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: grave believing that that team was winning the Super Bowl,

1373
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen was playing, that they should have won

1374
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Their defense didn't didn't do it. And

1375
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: the only thing is is like and I mentioned at

1376
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: the end of that conversation, like the Chiefs where every

1377
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: bit they're equal at the end of that game and

1378
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: stole the game away from Buffalo, and then that same

1379
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: version of the offense went through two quarters against Cincinnati

1380
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: dominant and then disappeared. You could just never can't predict

1381
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: this stuff, I guess, is what I'm saying, Mark, did

1382
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: you notice you got hit with the That's a really

1383
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: good question. I know you live for that, so I

1384
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: tend to think that that maybe is not a good

1385
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: question when they're saying that sometimes WHOA take me through

1386
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: that process, just like it's sort of a psychological trip trick.

1387
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: He was trying to play on me potentially, and he

1388
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: and it's like it was his way of being like, Okay,

1389
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: dumb ask I'm gonna It's like I've already probably like

1390
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: I this. You just threw me a little softball right

1391
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: down the middle, and I'm just gonna get an opposite day.

1392
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's possible when they're yeah, when they're the

1393
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: fault to say, wow, I did a great kind of

1394
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: like a nice pat on the head, like, hey, I'm

1395
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: happy to answer this one. Thanks for softball. Yeah right,

1396
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: you gave me a little, gave me a little. The

1397
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: first thing he said was that was easy. So maybe

1398
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: that's not the first thing you want to hear. Is

1399
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: not true Capital J jar. That's fair because he could

1400
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: have said, like, man, you guys are tough, but fair,

1401
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,839
Speaker 1: like that's what we're looking for. That was easy, peasy?

1402
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: Are we that really good at what we're looking for?

1403
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: One of these guys connection. I think they probably take

1404
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: Greg seriously, Why would they don't know? Because we always

1405
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: get that answer from professionals, Greg, I respect I feel

1406
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: confident in that brand, not to know who the three

1407
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: of us are or what the difference is. Like that

1408
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 1: whipper snapper in the middle was a real sharpie. Now, Colbert,

1409
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: what I want psychologically with you that you you want

1410
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: to get that answer so that you could like have

1411
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: that hanging over you in a way. Well, I want

1412
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: to know the truth. All right, Let's let's stick a

1413
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: pin and there's so much to get to this week.

1414
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:17,520
Speaker 1: We'll have another show tomorrow, more guests, coaches, general managers,

1415
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: all the watest news from the risers here, anything wild

1416
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: that goes on on the night that the what do

1417
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: they call that? The nightlife? He's called nightlife and some

1418
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: do you mean when you go out and do things

1419
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: with other people? Yes, at nightlife. Nailed it. And just

1420
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: so everybody knows, because I know you've been wondering, Uh,

1421
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: there will be no Flashpoint focus this one where it's

1422
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: on a brief hiatus, but we'll return next week full power.

1423
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: But I was thinking, and I don't know if you

1424
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: heard Greg or maybe you tune me out, but it

1425
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: did hit me when I was man splaining what flashpoint

1426
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: meant to Ricky because she had suggested mac Jones is

1427
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,560
Speaker 1: a flashpoint Focus was just terrible suggestion. Just she's not

1428
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: not getting the exercise. And while his man's planning with

1429
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: flashpoint was I said, well, maybe it should just be

1430
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: flashpoint Colon Baker Mayfield. I like that, get the focus

1431
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: out of there. We continue to trim to drive by there,

1432
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: but I just had to set up Yeah, you can't.

1433
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: She doesn't have a microphone that's an apology from media

1434
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: right here. You know what st Elmo is on me,

1435
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: and by me, I mean the Roger Goodell sanctioned Well,

1436
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: it has been like a little distract. I'm not saying

1437
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: like our podcast is that popular or whatever, but I

1438
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,879
Speaker 1: did feel different this time in Indianapolis of like everyone

1439
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: stopping me in the hallways and on the street asking

1440
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: like who's next on Flashpoint Focus. There's a lot In

1441
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: some ways you would say it's faulty to launch a

1442
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: series and immediately go into a hiatus, but I think

1443
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: fathers in this case. I think it's just builds the

1444
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: momentum toward what happens next week. So everybody just know

1445
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: that it will return. It's into flashpoint. Colin Baker may

1446
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: flashpoint flash point? Ricky, do you have the can you

1447
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: the dictionary um definition of flash point? I mean, she's

1448
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: ready to stab you in the face right now. I apologize.

1449
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: It's not our fault. Wait it's over, Ricky, I'm sorry,

1450
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: she's gonna kill me. All right, just forget it anyway.

1451
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Day one from the Combine.

1452
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thank you everybody for listening. Like we said,

1453
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 1: we'll be back tomorrow. I have another special show on Friday.

1454
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: Uh so a lot more content coming your way until then.

1455
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: Dan Hanson signing off work wide Storm, the Old Boss,

1456
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: the wonderful Ricky Hollywood. Sincere apologies, you can keep trying.

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: Brave digger behind this to tomorrow, head the car