1 00:00:07,266 --> 00:00:09,626 Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the 2 00:00:09,786 --> 00:00:23,786 Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:28,306 --> 00:00:31,026 Speaker 2: What does the Mile Garrett number now due to Jamar 4 00:00:31,146 --> 00:00:34,066 Speaker 2: Chase and his conversations with the Cincinnati Bengals. 5 00:00:34,346 --> 00:00:36,426 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it just took it to another level because 6 00:00:36,466 --> 00:00:39,586 Speaker 3: Duke Tobin, who is the lead executive on these negotiations 7 00:00:39,586 --> 00:00:41,586 Speaker 3: for the Bengals at the combine, came out and he 8 00:00:41,666 --> 00:00:43,786 Speaker 3: said that Jamar Chase is going to make the most 9 00:00:43,786 --> 00:00:45,146 Speaker 3: money as a non quarterback. 10 00:00:45,146 --> 00:00:46,546 Speaker 4: We're going to get that number there, We're going to 11 00:00:46,586 --> 00:00:48,186 Speaker 4: get that to him. And he said, well, that non 12 00:00:48,266 --> 00:00:51,466 Speaker 4: number just took a giant leap because no one saw 13 00:00:51,586 --> 00:00:54,626 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett making forty million dollars. It really all started 14 00:00:54,786 --> 00:00:57,106 Speaker 4: with Max Crosby getting a new deal on Friday, and 15 00:00:57,106 --> 00:00:59,626 Speaker 4: suddenly it was like Max Crosby's making thirty five million 16 00:00:59,626 --> 00:01:02,426 Speaker 4: a year. Now Garrett's making forty million. What do you 17 00:01:02,626 --> 00:01:05,466 Speaker 4: value Jamar Chase at Who's waited his time and it 18 00:01:05,506 --> 00:01:08,866 Speaker 4: is now his up oportunity to cash in. Look, I 19 00:01:08,906 --> 00:01:12,026 Speaker 4: still think the Bengals have great intentions to bring back 20 00:01:12,146 --> 00:01:15,946 Speaker 4: Chase and Higgins, both of them. I think if t 21 00:01:16,066 --> 00:01:18,546 Speaker 4: Higgins was to be on the open market, he could 22 00:01:18,546 --> 00:01:21,266 Speaker 4: make more than thirty million dollars. I think he's viewed 23 00:01:21,266 --> 00:01:23,346 Speaker 4: as a better wide receiver than DK Metcalf. 24 00:01:23,826 --> 00:01:25,546 Speaker 5: So all of this tells. 25 00:01:25,226 --> 00:01:29,426 Speaker 4: Me that the Bengals might be paying three guys Burrow, Chase, 26 00:01:30,146 --> 00:01:33,186 Speaker 4: and Higgins, and they might have to form the rest 27 00:01:33,186 --> 00:01:35,146 Speaker 4: of the team with forty nine guys that might not 28 00:01:35,226 --> 00:01:38,066 Speaker 4: necessarily be the best at their positions. 29 00:01:37,826 --> 00:01:39,746 Speaker 5: Or they have to draft Hella Good. 30 00:01:39,786 --> 00:01:41,826 Speaker 4: Because I don't think they're gonna have much money to 31 00:01:41,866 --> 00:01:43,026 Speaker 4: spend anywhere else. 32 00:01:43,466 --> 00:01:46,026 Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson, great player, he wasn't going. 33 00:01:45,946 --> 00:01:47,466 Speaker 4: To be able to be a part of his budget. 34 00:01:47,786 --> 00:01:50,066 Speaker 4: Of all these teams that seem to just avoid the 35 00:01:50,146 --> 00:01:52,906 Speaker 4: salary cap and figure out ways to make it work, 36 00:01:53,426 --> 00:01:56,986 Speaker 4: the Bengals waiting to pay Jamar Chase this late may 37 00:01:57,026 --> 00:02:00,186 Speaker 4: have burned themselves a bit because now you've got Chase 38 00:02:00,186 --> 00:02:03,026 Speaker 4: and Higgins, and the salary cap has expanded to this 39 00:02:03,066 --> 00:02:03,786 Speaker 4: amount of money. 40 00:02:03,826 --> 00:02:05,866 Speaker 5: They've got to find a way to pay both those guys. 41 00:02:05,986 --> 00:02:08,466 Speaker 4: If they had done it one year ago, two years ago, 42 00:02:08,746 --> 00:02:10,386 Speaker 4: they might have been in a better position right now. 43 00:02:10,426 --> 00:02:12,346 Speaker 4: But it looks like Chas and Higgins are their top 44 00:02:12,346 --> 00:02:15,026 Speaker 4: priorities and their numbers might have jumped leaps and bounds 45 00:02:15,066 --> 00:02:15,826 Speaker 4: even the last. 46 00:02:15,586 --> 00:02:20,186 Speaker 5: Forty eight hours, we would appreciate it. Yesterday, Miles Garrett 47 00:02:20,226 --> 00:02:22,506 Speaker 5: and I was like, guys, it was a lot of money. 48 00:02:23,346 --> 00:02:24,706 Speaker 5: Figured it out and the money. 49 00:02:25,466 --> 00:02:27,826 Speaker 4: It said, we get this tree from like Mary kay Cabin, 50 00:02:27,866 --> 00:02:28,346 Speaker 4: who's the local. 51 00:02:28,386 --> 00:02:29,866 Speaker 5: We were like that. She spoke to the. 52 00:02:29,866 --> 00:02:32,546 Speaker 4: Agent and Miles has had a change of heart, a 53 00:02:32,626 --> 00:02:34,946 Speaker 4: change of heart about his like four weeks ago. And 54 00:02:34,986 --> 00:02:37,146 Speaker 4: not to pile on here, but he was on Eisen's 55 00:02:37,146 --> 00:02:39,466 Speaker 4: show on Roku. He says, I don't care about the money. 56 00:02:39,466 --> 00:02:41,586 Speaker 4: I just want to win a championship. I just want 57 00:02:41,586 --> 00:02:44,106 Speaker 4: people to know that it's not about money. It's not 58 00:02:44,186 --> 00:02:44,626 Speaker 4: about me. 59 00:02:44,706 --> 00:02:48,586 Speaker 5: Being the highest quarterback. It's not about me having a 60 00:02:48,706 --> 00:02:51,826 Speaker 5: huge contract. But like you could walk go. 61 00:02:51,866 --> 00:02:55,426 Speaker 4: Here's the other thing I really, in hindsight, respect the 62 00:02:55,466 --> 00:02:58,666 Speaker 4: heck out of the Browns owner Jimmy Haslm not sitting. 63 00:02:58,386 --> 00:02:59,786 Speaker 5: Down and talking with him last year. 64 00:03:00,066 --> 00:03:03,026 Speaker 4: Last week, Miles Garrett was asked for a meeting and 65 00:03:03,106 --> 00:03:04,746 Speaker 4: Jimmy Haslm was like, now you don't get a meeting. 66 00:03:04,746 --> 00:03:07,066 Speaker 4: You're under contract for two more years and it could 67 00:03:07,106 --> 00:03:08,906 Speaker 4: be four more years. We want to franchise tag. You 68 00:03:09,306 --> 00:03:12,266 Speaker 4: deal with Andrew Berry, our GM deal with him. 69 00:03:12,466 --> 00:03:13,986 Speaker 5: Because the same. 70 00:03:13,826 --> 00:03:17,826 Speaker 4: Folks that cry about owners meddling with team affairs, why 71 00:03:17,866 --> 00:03:19,666 Speaker 4: is the owner involved the ownership let. 72 00:03:19,546 --> 00:03:21,146 Speaker 5: The g Why is the owner gettingvolve? Why I is 73 00:03:21,186 --> 00:03:22,786 Speaker 5: Jarret Jonah vault? Were the same. 74 00:03:22,626 --> 00:03:25,626 Speaker 4: People like, how does the owner not meet with Miles Garrett? Well, 75 00:03:25,666 --> 00:03:27,506 Speaker 4: the owner's like, no, you're in the contract for two 76 00:03:27,586 --> 00:03:28,146 Speaker 4: more years. 77 00:03:28,626 --> 00:03:29,666 Speaker 5: Play at your contract. 78 00:03:29,706 --> 00:03:31,946 Speaker 4: You And at the end of the day, Miles Garrett 79 00:03:31,986 --> 00:03:33,946 Speaker 4: did not have a no trade clause, so they could 80 00:03:33,986 --> 00:03:35,906 Speaker 4: have traded him right there. They could have traded him 81 00:03:35,906 --> 00:03:39,426 Speaker 4: to Jacksonville. Miles Garrett could be a Jacksonville Jaguar this morning. 82 00:03:39,466 --> 00:03:41,346 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that's like the pine Barons of 83 00:03:41,386 --> 00:03:42,706 Speaker 4: the NFL are like, but he could. 84 00:03:42,706 --> 00:03:43,826 Speaker 5: They could have traded him anywhere. 85 00:03:43,906 --> 00:03:45,826 Speaker 4: You want to be traded, your giant, you're a jet, 86 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:47,826 Speaker 4: you want to be traded. You're gonna You're gonna go 87 00:03:47,866 --> 00:03:50,226 Speaker 4: now be you know you're a New Orleans Saint and 88 00:03:50,306 --> 00:03:51,946 Speaker 4: you don't like New Orleans, Well, sorry, we traded you. 89 00:03:52,066 --> 00:03:53,666 Speaker 4: Go let them figure out the tent. So at the 90 00:03:53,706 --> 00:03:55,426 Speaker 4: end of the day, he gets paid. But like that 91 00:03:55,466 --> 00:03:57,666 Speaker 4: whole song and dance in New Orleans. It doesn't rub 92 00:03:57,746 --> 00:03:59,906 Speaker 4: me wrong. It's just what a bunch of wasted airwaves 93 00:03:59,906 --> 00:04:01,666 Speaker 4: and wasted segments on our show when the truth of 94 00:04:01,666 --> 00:04:03,466 Speaker 4: the matter was you had to change your heart and 95 00:04:03,546 --> 00:04:06,026 Speaker 4: forty million dollars in the highest non paid quarterback ever 96 00:04:06,066 --> 00:04:08,786 Speaker 4: could do that. Congratulations. But now the salary cap is 97 00:04:08,826 --> 00:04:10,866 Speaker 4: going all to you, and we hopefully can build a 98 00:04:10,906 --> 00:04:15,906 Speaker 4: champion around New York Giants our backyard right here. The Giants, 99 00:04:15,946 --> 00:04:19,106 Speaker 4: of course, did this Saquon Barkley move last year, not 100 00:04:19,306 --> 00:04:21,986 Speaker 4: signing him back, saying hey go quick, we're gonna save 101 00:04:22,026 --> 00:04:24,586 Speaker 4: our money. We're gonna build an offensive line, and then 102 00:04:24,586 --> 00:04:27,266 Speaker 4: the quarterback play was atrocious last year. There is a 103 00:04:27,346 --> 00:04:30,546 Speaker 4: giant void of that position in there is no sure thing. Look, 104 00:04:30,626 --> 00:04:32,906 Speaker 4: I've reported this, I said at the combine, I will 105 00:04:32,906 --> 00:04:37,386 Speaker 4: double down. Aaron Rodgers is definitely a possibility, as silly 106 00:04:37,386 --> 00:04:41,266 Speaker 4: as that sounds, oxymoron wise, definitely a possibility in New York. 107 00:04:41,346 --> 00:04:43,626 Speaker 4: That is a guy that they have zeroed in on 108 00:04:43,706 --> 00:04:46,466 Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. But Rogers's gonna have options. 109 00:04:46,866 --> 00:04:48,626 Speaker 4: Rogers's gonna have options in that he can wait his 110 00:04:48,706 --> 00:04:51,306 Speaker 4: time out. See what place is filled what carousel seat 111 00:04:51,346 --> 00:04:54,946 Speaker 4: has still opened? And I do think Pittsburgh's a real possibility. 112 00:04:54,986 --> 00:04:58,146 Speaker 4: If the Giants don't bring in Rogers, Well, you look 113 00:04:58,146 --> 00:04:59,986 Speaker 4: at the draft and they have the third pick. So 114 00:05:00,626 --> 00:05:03,706 Speaker 4: can't really just snap your fingers and say I'm gonna 115 00:05:03,706 --> 00:05:04,386 Speaker 4: get cam Ward. 116 00:05:04,466 --> 00:05:06,426 Speaker 5: He might be gone. And you can't snap your finger 117 00:05:06,586 --> 00:05:08,586 Speaker 5: and say we're gonna get shandor he might be gone. 118 00:05:08,946 --> 00:05:11,666 Speaker 4: So you have the third pick, which puts the Giants 119 00:05:11,786 --> 00:05:13,866 Speaker 4: kind of in this wait and see mode. Are they 120 00:05:13,866 --> 00:05:17,586 Speaker 4: interested in Aaron Rodgers? Yes? Are they should in Darnald? 121 00:05:18,026 --> 00:05:20,306 Speaker 4: I don't think I see that, and I haven't heard that. 122 00:05:20,466 --> 00:05:22,666 Speaker 4: And it's more because, well, we went down the road 123 00:05:22,706 --> 00:05:25,826 Speaker 4: of having Daniel Jones on that two year deal and 124 00:05:25,866 --> 00:05:27,426 Speaker 4: it didn't work out, and we should have known we 125 00:05:27,426 --> 00:05:31,026 Speaker 4: shouldn't get Is Donald worthy of long term contract in 126 00:05:31,066 --> 00:05:33,106 Speaker 4: New York? I don't know if Joe Shane's gonna put 127 00:05:33,146 --> 00:05:33,986 Speaker 4: his name to Sam. 128 00:05:33,866 --> 00:05:35,106 Speaker 5: Darnold for the long term. 129 00:05:35,266 --> 00:05:37,786 Speaker 4: And then you start getting down those second and third options, 130 00:05:37,786 --> 00:05:40,426 Speaker 4: and it starts getting to Russell Wilson really quick, and 131 00:05:40,466 --> 00:05:43,266 Speaker 4: it starts getting to Mac Jones and Zach Wilson really cool, 132 00:05:43,826 --> 00:05:49,186 Speaker 4: and Carson Wentz really quick. It almost makes you say, oh, wait, Rogers, like, 133 00:05:49,426 --> 00:05:52,226 Speaker 4: do we need to go all Lennon Rodgers. It's amazing 134 00:05:52,226 --> 00:05:55,186 Speaker 4: how it went from this peculiar curiosity two weeks ago 135 00:05:55,226 --> 00:05:58,186 Speaker 4: to now being maybe their best option Aaron Rodgers and 136 00:05:58,226 --> 00:06:00,506 Speaker 4: the Giants to me, but if they don't land Aaron Rodgers, 137 00:06:00,866 --> 00:06:03,786 Speaker 4: it gets really really interesting and it could get really 138 00:06:03,826 --> 00:06:05,226 Speaker 4: hairy for Giants fans in the. 139 00:06:05,146 --> 00:06:06,946 Speaker 5: Next few hours. Yeah. 140 00:06:06,986 --> 00:06:08,546 Speaker 4: Well, I tweeted this out last night, and I mean 141 00:06:08,546 --> 00:06:10,186 Speaker 4: it's Devanta Adams is currently in Japan. 142 00:06:10,346 --> 00:06:13,266 Speaker 5: He's in Japan. He's traveling in the Far East right now. 143 00:06:13,346 --> 00:06:16,506 Speaker 4: So while this was all going on, Sean McVay was 144 00:06:16,546 --> 00:06:19,906 Speaker 4: facetiming and calling him while he was in Japan sight 145 00:06:20,026 --> 00:06:22,186 Speaker 4: seeing and going to Japan for the first time. 146 00:06:22,226 --> 00:06:23,386 Speaker 5: So Davante a. 147 00:06:23,386 --> 00:06:25,506 Speaker 4: Free agent because of the way the Jets let this 148 00:06:25,546 --> 00:06:27,906 Speaker 4: thing go and they said, Okay, you're out, and that. 149 00:06:27,946 --> 00:06:29,826 Speaker 5: Means he could actually sign before. 150 00:06:29,546 --> 00:06:33,786 Speaker 4: The free agency wave and McVeigh was in full recruitment mode. 151 00:06:33,826 --> 00:06:36,746 Speaker 4: If you haven't seen it, it's something to behold. He's 152 00:06:36,786 --> 00:06:38,746 Speaker 4: done it before in his career, and he did it 153 00:06:38,786 --> 00:06:43,026 Speaker 4: when he activates like he's like Nick Saban and Kirby 154 00:06:43,106 --> 00:06:45,506 Speaker 4: smart and you name it Urban Meyer. 155 00:06:45,626 --> 00:06:47,426 Speaker 5: When the Ohio State days. 156 00:06:47,186 --> 00:06:51,986 Speaker 4: All welled into one, Belichick and Bill Belichick not this 157 00:06:52,466 --> 00:06:56,546 Speaker 4: is it. So you know Adams, this is another stop 158 00:06:56,586 --> 00:06:59,546 Speaker 4: on the tour. But for the Rams, you know Cooper 159 00:06:59,626 --> 00:07:01,986 Speaker 4: Cup and Pooka Nakool but coming to kind of be 160 00:07:02,066 --> 00:07:04,226 Speaker 4: the same type of wide receiver and that they're these 161 00:07:04,226 --> 00:07:07,866 Speaker 4: big bodied, strong handed like Devon Dam's a totally different one. 162 00:07:07,866 --> 00:07:09,866 Speaker 4: They signed to to at Well for a one year, 163 00:07:09,946 --> 00:07:11,946 Speaker 4: ten million dollar deal. If we'll roll their eyes, it's 164 00:07:11,986 --> 00:07:14,106 Speaker 4: like you want two. Just wait to see the numbers 165 00:07:14,106 --> 00:07:16,026 Speaker 4: that are thrown out the next couple of days. To 166 00:07:16,026 --> 00:07:17,746 Speaker 4: to at Well at ten million dollars is not going 167 00:07:17,826 --> 00:07:19,306 Speaker 4: to seem like it's going to blow your hair back 168 00:07:19,346 --> 00:07:22,506 Speaker 4: because the salary cap went crazy this last couple of weeks, 169 00:07:22,586 --> 00:07:24,746 Speaker 4: so they have money to spend. So they have almost 170 00:07:24,786 --> 00:07:26,946 Speaker 4: a starting five like a basketball team. 171 00:07:27,026 --> 00:07:28,586 Speaker 5: They have different heights and different roles. 172 00:07:28,626 --> 00:07:30,466 Speaker 4: And you got your point guard in two two, and 173 00:07:30,506 --> 00:07:32,826 Speaker 4: then you got your long range guy in Davonte, and then. 174 00:07:32,706 --> 00:07:33,066 Speaker 5: You got your. 175 00:07:33,066 --> 00:07:36,106 Speaker 4: Underneath guy and Tukah's like they've got different body types, 176 00:07:36,146 --> 00:07:39,866 Speaker 4: different wide receiver skills. And McVeigh was full on recruiting 177 00:07:39,866 --> 00:07:42,146 Speaker 4: a man in Japan all week and he got his guys, 178 00:07:42,146 --> 00:07:44,866 Speaker 4: So pretty cool story about Sometimes it's a little different 179 00:07:44,866 --> 00:07:46,546 Speaker 4: than just talking the GM talking to the agent. 180 00:07:46,626 --> 00:07:48,426 Speaker 5: Sometimes the head coach going over to the Far. 181 00:07:48,306 --> 00:07:52,146 Speaker 4: East thirty million dollars, which is a lot of money 182 00:07:52,186 --> 00:07:55,106 Speaker 4: for DK Metcalf to be making congratulations to him. He 183 00:07:55,146 --> 00:07:57,466 Speaker 4: gets traded and he goes to a place that's perennially 184 00:07:57,506 --> 00:08:00,986 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. I am fascinated at two questions. One, 185 00:08:01,346 --> 00:08:03,706 Speaker 4: who is the quarterback throwing him the ball? We should 186 00:08:03,706 --> 00:08:07,546 Speaker 4: find that out hopefully later today or tomorrow. And two 187 00:08:08,106 --> 00:08:10,866 Speaker 4: is George Pickens in that wide receivers room as well? 188 00:08:10,866 --> 00:08:14,106 Speaker 4: Because those are two fiery personalities. 189 00:08:13,546 --> 00:08:15,706 Speaker 5: And right now they are at Arthur Smith and. 190 00:08:16,106 --> 00:08:19,386 Speaker 4: Zach Aziani, who's the wide receivers coach might be having 191 00:08:19,426 --> 00:08:21,986 Speaker 4: to massage some egos and making sure that these guys 192 00:08:22,026 --> 00:08:26,026 Speaker 4: both get the ball. But gosh, who is the quarterback? 193 00:08:26,026 --> 00:08:27,986 Speaker 4: And I go through it with Pittsburgh right now, because 194 00:08:27,986 --> 00:08:30,506 Speaker 4: I said that was the most burning question in my 195 00:08:30,586 --> 00:08:33,506 Speaker 4: mind last week, what we were talking about heading into the offseason, 196 00:08:33,506 --> 00:08:36,146 Speaker 4: which team are you most fascinating? I said, The Steelers 197 00:08:36,146 --> 00:08:38,386 Speaker 4: have been trying to get a wide receiver one. 198 00:08:38,546 --> 00:08:39,546 Speaker 5: For many years, they. 199 00:08:39,426 --> 00:08:41,546 Speaker 4: Went after Brandon Ayuk, they couldn't get them. They went 200 00:08:41,586 --> 00:08:43,386 Speaker 4: after others. In the last couple of years they couldn't 201 00:08:43,386 --> 00:08:46,506 Speaker 4: get them. They finally get DK Metcalf and the money. 202 00:08:46,946 --> 00:08:50,106 Speaker 4: Look the salary cap. It was increased by a X 203 00:08:50,146 --> 00:08:52,546 Speaker 4: amount of dollars. The money is almost funny money at 204 00:08:52,586 --> 00:08:55,746 Speaker 4: this point. I can't compare it to previous years because 205 00:08:55,786 --> 00:08:58,146 Speaker 4: it's gone up so much in the last couple of years, 206 00:08:58,186 --> 00:09:00,786 Speaker 4: where this might just be the going rate for a 207 00:09:00,826 --> 00:09:04,706 Speaker 4: star wide receiver. And once we see what Jamar Chase gets, 208 00:09:04,746 --> 00:09:05,986 Speaker 4: it'll blow this out of the water. 209 00:09:06,586 --> 00:09:09,106 Speaker 5: What we see at T. Higgins gets by bloat this 210 00:09:09,266 --> 00:09:09,946 Speaker 5: out of the water. 211 00:09:10,026 --> 00:09:12,866 Speaker 4: So I am fascinated to see because right now the 212 00:09:12,906 --> 00:09:13,946 Speaker 4: way I see the dominoes. 213 00:09:14,306 --> 00:09:16,346 Speaker 5: You've heard it, and I said it last week or 214 00:09:16,386 --> 00:09:16,866 Speaker 5: two weeks. 215 00:09:16,706 --> 00:09:21,266 Speaker 4: Ago from the combine, Justin Fields is who Pittsburgh wants. However, 216 00:09:21,386 --> 00:09:23,906 Speaker 4: Justin Field's going to have a market. So if Justin 217 00:09:23,986 --> 00:09:28,066 Speaker 4: Fields does not come back to Pittsburgh, is Pittsburgh a 218 00:09:28,106 --> 00:09:31,386 Speaker 4: sneaky place for Sam Donald? And is that Sam Donald throwing. 219 00:09:31,266 --> 00:09:32,386 Speaker 5: DK Metcalf passes. 220 00:09:32,666 --> 00:09:34,066 Speaker 4: And then I'll give you a third name. And the 221 00:09:34,186 --> 00:09:36,546 Speaker 4: ring almost like the Royal Rumble coming in. Here is 222 00:09:36,586 --> 00:09:39,746 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers throwing a DK Metcalf next year? Like that 223 00:09:39,906 --> 00:09:41,906 Speaker 4: is why as much as we took care of business 224 00:09:41,986 --> 00:09:45,026 Speaker 4: over the weekend, there are still so many unanswered questions. 225 00:09:45,346 --> 00:09:48,306 Speaker 4: And we have Aaron Rodgers throwing to George Pickens and 226 00:09:48,386 --> 00:09:51,106 Speaker 4: DK Metcalf with Mike Tomlin on the sideline, like, sign 227 00:09:51,146 --> 00:09:53,586 Speaker 4: me up. That's a really interesting team. A lot of 228 00:09:53,626 --> 00:09:56,986 Speaker 4: personalities to navigate there and a lot of egos to massage. 229 00:09:57,026 --> 00:09:58,106 Speaker 5: But DK Metcal's a steel. 230 00:09:58,106 --> 00:10:14,746 Speaker 4: I don't know who's throwing on the bay yet. We 231 00:10:14,826 --> 00:10:18,666 Speaker 4: spent so many years complaining and losing sleep over the 232 00:10:18,746 --> 00:10:22,146 Speaker 4: lack of talent at the Philadelphia Eagles defensive backfield. 233 00:10:22,186 --> 00:10:24,066 Speaker 5: Well they finally built that thing up. 234 00:10:24,306 --> 00:10:27,066 Speaker 4: And now it's like hey, Cooper Dejen and Reid Blank 235 00:10:27,106 --> 00:10:29,746 Speaker 4: and Ship and Queenyon Mitchell, like the show is yours. 236 00:10:29,746 --> 00:10:32,426 Speaker 4: There's a lot on their shoulders right now. That's real 237 00:10:32,506 --> 00:10:35,666 Speaker 4: veteran leadership, and I value veteran leadership. I think you 238 00:10:35,666 --> 00:10:37,786 Speaker 4: look at what that offensive line does. They bring in 239 00:10:37,826 --> 00:10:39,706 Speaker 4: new talent and they groom them and then it's a 240 00:10:39,986 --> 00:10:42,826 Speaker 4: defensive backfield though that is an Achilles Heel for the 241 00:10:42,826 --> 00:10:45,786 Speaker 4: Eagles for many years. They finally seem like they nailed 242 00:10:45,786 --> 00:10:47,946 Speaker 4: it last year, and they got these two rookies who 243 00:10:47,946 --> 00:10:52,106 Speaker 4: played so well. That's a big responsibility on their shoulders. 244 00:10:52,386 --> 00:10:54,346 Speaker 5: But that is what happens with the spoils of winning. 245 00:10:54,546 --> 00:10:55,986 Speaker 4: You at some point are going to have to pay 246 00:10:56,066 --> 00:10:58,706 Speaker 4: Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter, and you're gonna have to 247 00:10:58,706 --> 00:11:01,106 Speaker 4: pay Nolan Smith and Nakobe Dean and the rest of them, 248 00:11:01,346 --> 00:11:03,186 Speaker 4: just like they paid Zach Bond to keep him there. 249 00:11:03,226 --> 00:11:06,426 Speaker 4: So we say farewell to four very very important veteran 250 00:11:06,626 --> 00:11:08,426 Speaker 4: players on this team, and I guess we have to 251 00:11:08,466 --> 00:11:09,386 Speaker 4: move on and see But. 252 00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:10,666 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't like it. 253 00:11:12,106 --> 00:11:13,706 Speaker 2: So what do you make of this, the fact that 254 00:11:13,786 --> 00:11:16,546 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson are in the same room together. 255 00:11:17,106 --> 00:11:19,946 Speaker 4: I would just say it's two guys who are looking 256 00:11:19,946 --> 00:11:22,866 Speaker 4: to salvage their careers at such young ages. Like I 257 00:11:22,866 --> 00:11:25,306 Speaker 4: didn't realize Daniel Jones was Joe Montana the way the 258 00:11:25,306 --> 00:11:27,906 Speaker 4: feeding Frenzy was in the media the last couple of weeks, Like, Wow, 259 00:11:27,986 --> 00:11:29,906 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is a market He's gonna be Hey, he's 260 00:11:29,906 --> 00:11:30,826 Speaker 4: making fourteen. 261 00:11:30,506 --> 00:11:32,266 Speaker 5: Million a year that's real money. 262 00:11:32,346 --> 00:11:35,386 Speaker 4: And then Anthony Richardson, everyone's writing them off in Indianapolis. 263 00:11:35,386 --> 00:11:37,346 Speaker 4: And I don't follow that team closely enough to know 264 00:11:37,426 --> 00:11:39,746 Speaker 4: the inner workings. But when you have a quarterback who's 265 00:11:39,746 --> 00:11:42,346 Speaker 4: going to his third year and they're already signing someone 266 00:11:42,346 --> 00:11:44,666 Speaker 4: else for fourteen million dollars, it tells me that the 267 00:11:44,706 --> 00:11:46,946 Speaker 4: writing's on the wall and that maybe they didn't love 268 00:11:46,986 --> 00:11:49,186 Speaker 4: what you had brought to the table the last two years. 269 00:11:49,386 --> 00:11:51,466 Speaker 5: Not a great sign for Richardson. And I'm not a. 270 00:11:51,466 --> 00:11:53,946 Speaker 4: Huge Daniel Jones is gonna We're going to shock the world. 271 00:11:53,946 --> 00:11:56,106 Speaker 4: So to me, I'm kind of nonplussed by this, and 272 00:11:56,346 --> 00:11:58,586 Speaker 4: I hate being so negative, but like, that is a 273 00:11:58,626 --> 00:12:00,946 Speaker 4: good team with a good running back, and that is 274 00:12:00,986 --> 00:12:03,866 Speaker 4: a good team with a solid defense. Quarterback's been the 275 00:12:03,866 --> 00:12:06,546 Speaker 4: missing piece. At least they're addressing it. Chris Ballard's and 276 00:12:06,626 --> 00:12:10,026 Speaker 4: through this carousel ride of Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan 277 00:12:10,066 --> 00:12:13,626 Speaker 4: and Philip Rivers and now we're on Daniel Jones. I 278 00:12:13,626 --> 00:12:15,546 Speaker 4: don't have a ton of confidence that this is going 279 00:12:15,626 --> 00:12:19,066 Speaker 4: to get them to a super Bowl. Rogers we know 280 00:12:19,266 --> 00:12:21,426 Speaker 4: is going somewhere, and it might not just be a week. 281 00:12:21,466 --> 00:12:23,346 Speaker 5: It might be two weeks, three weeks, four weeks. 282 00:12:23,346 --> 00:12:26,066 Speaker 4: If you think you know the answer to what Aaron 283 00:12:26,106 --> 00:12:29,146 Speaker 4: Rodgers's timetable is, you know more than the Steelers and 284 00:12:29,186 --> 00:12:31,426 Speaker 4: the Giants too, because I've spoken with teeth to sources 285 00:12:31,426 --> 00:12:33,986 Speaker 4: on both sides and everyone's kind of got that shrug 286 00:12:34,026 --> 00:12:37,026 Speaker 4: emoji were William we're seeing give me a space, let 287 00:12:37,106 --> 00:12:37,746 Speaker 4: him decide. 288 00:12:37,826 --> 00:12:38,586 Speaker 5: Now, we don't know the. 289 00:12:38,586 --> 00:12:40,626 Speaker 4: Numbers, we don't know what's been offered exactly, but we 290 00:12:40,626 --> 00:12:43,866 Speaker 4: do know there's been contact treat his representatives and both 291 00:12:43,906 --> 00:12:44,746 Speaker 4: of those teams. 292 00:12:45,586 --> 00:12:46,026 Speaker 5: Rogers. 293 00:12:46,066 --> 00:12:49,586 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, I'm told his quote out west right now, that's 294 00:12:49,586 --> 00:12:53,106 Speaker 4: where he is. So he's not in Chile, he's not 295 00:12:53,266 --> 00:12:54,986 Speaker 4: in Peru, He's. 296 00:12:54,746 --> 00:12:58,106 Speaker 5: Not in wherever he goes for what do they even 297 00:12:58,106 --> 00:12:58,866 Speaker 5: call it? An enigma? 298 00:12:58,946 --> 00:13:01,586 Speaker 4: His medicine, Yes, medicine in the generals, medicine that for 299 00:13:01,666 --> 00:13:03,146 Speaker 4: him though West lighte mean like West Asia. 300 00:13:06,426 --> 00:13:07,266 Speaker 5: Descinating to me is. 301 00:13:07,266 --> 00:13:10,426 Speaker 4: That he's got these two franchises that are just woven 302 00:13:10,466 --> 00:13:14,186 Speaker 4: in the cloth of NFL history. You're talking about two 303 00:13:14,346 --> 00:13:18,306 Speaker 4: blue chip franchises with two blue chip families, and they're 304 00:13:18,346 --> 00:13:20,706 Speaker 4: waiting on Rogers and this is just kind of what 305 00:13:20,826 --> 00:13:22,866 Speaker 4: the deal's going to be it is going to be 306 00:13:23,026 --> 00:13:26,386 Speaker 4: on Aaron's terms where he decides to go, and we're 307 00:13:26,386 --> 00:13:28,826 Speaker 4: not one hundred percent sure he's going to either yet. 308 00:13:28,906 --> 00:13:30,466 Speaker 5: So Rogers, for. 309 00:13:30,466 --> 00:13:32,626 Speaker 4: All the hoopla about how terrible he was with the 310 00:13:32,706 --> 00:13:36,266 Speaker 4: Jets and how awful teammate he is, to haven't You've 311 00:13:36,266 --> 00:13:40,706 Speaker 4: got two really strong, really historical franchises waiting on a 312 00:13:40,746 --> 00:13:43,306 Speaker 4: forty one year old quarterback coming off two years from 313 00:13:43,346 --> 00:13:45,626 Speaker 4: an achilles injury, and I do think he's their number 314 00:13:45,626 --> 00:13:49,026 Speaker 4: one option in both of those places. It's funny because 315 00:13:49,066 --> 00:13:51,226 Speaker 4: the Steelers, it's like, all right, if we don't get 316 00:13:51,226 --> 00:13:53,666 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, we could go back to Russell Wilson, which 317 00:13:53,826 --> 00:13:56,466 Speaker 4: we didn't court him really he was our quarterback, and 318 00:13:56,506 --> 00:13:59,226 Speaker 4: we're kind of going after someone else. But hopefully DK 319 00:13:59,386 --> 00:14:01,306 Speaker 4: Metcalf's an old teammate, they get along and we can 320 00:14:01,346 --> 00:14:02,826 Speaker 4: make this right. We can put the toothpaste back in 321 00:14:02,866 --> 00:14:04,786 Speaker 4: the tube, or maybe we draft someone in the twentieth 322 00:14:04,866 --> 00:14:07,106 Speaker 4: or we get someone in the second rounds don't get 323 00:14:07,106 --> 00:14:09,466 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers get the third overall pick, and it's like, 324 00:14:09,706 --> 00:14:12,826 Speaker 4: are we drafting Shador? Are we drafting Shador? And then 325 00:14:12,866 --> 00:14:15,626 Speaker 4: it gets a totally different road or are we drafting 326 00:14:15,706 --> 00:14:18,386 Speaker 4: Jackson Dart third overall, which wouldn't be the craziest thing 327 00:14:18,626 --> 00:14:21,066 Speaker 4: if you really have no quarterback and you like Dart 328 00:14:21,106 --> 00:14:24,146 Speaker 4: more than Shador Sanders. I just think for the Giants, 329 00:14:24,466 --> 00:14:27,306 Speaker 4: you know, we've made fun of the Jets for sending 330 00:14:27,386 --> 00:14:30,706 Speaker 4: Robert Salah and Joe Douglas and Woody Johnson and Christopher 331 00:14:30,746 --> 00:14:33,826 Speaker 4: Johnson to Malibu to go meet with Rogers. And there's 332 00:14:33,946 --> 00:14:36,466 Speaker 4: TMZ cameras who are outside the house, which was. 333 00:14:36,426 --> 00:14:37,706 Speaker 5: Like, what are we doing? 334 00:14:38,146 --> 00:14:40,266 Speaker 4: Is it so crazy to find out where he is 335 00:14:40,306 --> 00:14:41,666 Speaker 4: and go to him if you really want him to 336 00:14:41,666 --> 00:14:43,506 Speaker 4: be the quarterback, and maybe try to court him and 337 00:14:43,546 --> 00:14:46,346 Speaker 4: say here's what we can offer and let's talk in person. Hey, look, 338 00:14:46,386 --> 00:14:48,706 Speaker 4: the league year starts this year. Anything is on the table. 339 00:14:48,746 --> 00:14:50,626 Speaker 4: If he's a free agent. I just don't know if 340 00:14:50,666 --> 00:14:52,346 Speaker 4: it's a sweepstakes for Aaron Rodgers. 341 00:14:52,426 --> 00:14:55,026 Speaker 5: Who's the better recruiter right now? Is it Brian Dable, 342 00:14:55,146 --> 00:14:55,906 Speaker 5: is it Mike Tomlin. 343 00:14:55,986 --> 00:14:58,146 Speaker 4: I'd love to see this thing play out, and maybe 344 00:14:58,226 --> 00:14:59,626 Speaker 4: Rogers can control those terms. 345 00:15:00,546 --> 00:15:02,186 Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy better be good. 346 00:15:02,706 --> 00:15:06,546 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy better be ready, and JJ McCarthy better be 347 00:15:06,666 --> 00:15:09,466 Speaker 4: something that they can say that's why we moved on 348 00:15:09,546 --> 00:15:12,906 Speaker 4: from Sam Donald. For look, I understand it, it's his time. 349 00:15:13,066 --> 00:15:16,186 Speaker 4: He was a top ten draft pick, and it was 350 00:15:16,226 --> 00:15:19,986 Speaker 4: in the plans that year, probably late year one, year two, 351 00:15:20,106 --> 00:15:21,226 Speaker 4: he'd get his opportunity. 352 00:15:21,626 --> 00:15:22,626 Speaker 5: But then things happen. 353 00:15:22,826 --> 00:15:25,826 Speaker 4: He gets injured in preseason and Sam Donald has this 354 00:15:25,946 --> 00:15:29,306 Speaker 4: incredible year where for the first seventeen weeks of the 355 00:15:29,346 --> 00:15:31,986 Speaker 4: season there may have been no more impressive quarterback considering 356 00:15:31,986 --> 00:15:36,426 Speaker 4: what we expected him to be. Donald three years, one 357 00:15:36,506 --> 00:15:40,946 Speaker 4: hundred million. Seattle, like Minnesota, could have afforded that. They 358 00:15:40,946 --> 00:15:43,106 Speaker 4: had that in their budget, they opted not to spend 359 00:15:43,146 --> 00:15:46,546 Speaker 4: it on that, and they opted to instead bringing guys 360 00:15:46,546 --> 00:15:49,746 Speaker 4: like Jonathan Allen and Will Fries and just. 361 00:15:49,786 --> 00:15:51,586 Speaker 5: Roll with the plan what it was all along. 362 00:15:51,706 --> 00:15:55,706 Speaker 4: Now, remember when Kracy drafted JJ McCarthy and they brought 363 00:15:55,706 --> 00:15:58,466 Speaker 4: in Sam Donald for one year, ten million. It was 364 00:15:59,146 --> 00:16:00,986 Speaker 4: because we have to pay everyone else, and we're gonna 365 00:16:00,986 --> 00:16:02,346 Speaker 4: be able to do this with a quarterback on a 366 00:16:02,426 --> 00:16:04,026 Speaker 4: rookie contract and we'll get a. 367 00:16:03,986 --> 00:16:06,266 Speaker 5: Good bridge veteran at quarterback. Well, what happened. 368 00:16:06,626 --> 00:16:09,746 Speaker 4: Darnold had this meteoric rise and was showed that he 369 00:16:09,746 --> 00:16:12,026 Speaker 4: could be that guy indoors doing it all and then 370 00:16:12,066 --> 00:16:15,146 Speaker 4: when he went outdoors, had great games in Chicago, great 371 00:16:15,146 --> 00:16:17,506 Speaker 4: games in Seattle when it mattered. I'm not sold on 372 00:16:17,586 --> 00:16:19,426 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy because I haven't seen them. We sold in 373 00:16:19,466 --> 00:16:21,506 Speaker 4: one preseason game. Then we get that unfortunate news that 374 00:16:21,586 --> 00:16:24,466 Speaker 4: he got injured. So they're banking on this guy being 375 00:16:24,466 --> 00:16:27,426 Speaker 4: fully recovered and being able to compete, and I don't 376 00:16:27,426 --> 00:16:29,706 Speaker 4: know incomplete for me, We'll see TBA. 377 00:16:30,666 --> 00:16:33,066 Speaker 2: What is the one thing that made you ecstatic and 378 00:16:33,106 --> 00:16:34,906 Speaker 2: want to run through a wall when you were in 379 00:16:34,946 --> 00:16:35,666 Speaker 2: the fifth grade. 380 00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:37,266 Speaker 4: Do you remember that first day of school when you 381 00:16:37,306 --> 00:16:39,466 Speaker 4: had the new sneakers and you were so excited to 382 00:16:39,506 --> 00:16:42,146 Speaker 4: show your friends I got new shoes. I also felt 383 00:16:42,146 --> 00:16:43,786 Speaker 4: this way when a team would have a new logo 384 00:16:44,266 --> 00:16:47,266 Speaker 4: and I would buy that shirt, like, oh my gosh, 385 00:16:47,306 --> 00:16:50,026 Speaker 4: the new Jersey Nets have changed their logo and we've 386 00:16:50,066 --> 00:16:53,706 Speaker 4: got Kendall Gill and John cala Parry let's go or 387 00:16:53,746 --> 00:16:56,186 Speaker 4: the new England Patriots. This draft drew Bledsoe and in 388 00:16:56,506 --> 00:16:59,426 Speaker 4: addition have these new cool jerseys that they're going to 389 00:16:59,466 --> 00:17:02,026 Speaker 4: be rolling out and they're selling it at the model's nearby. 390 00:17:02,186 --> 00:17:04,746 Speaker 4: When they did this logo change and it went from 391 00:17:05,146 --> 00:17:07,986 Speaker 4: Hugh Millin and all of a sudden we got parcels 392 00:17:08,026 --> 00:17:08,666 Speaker 4: and Bledsoe. 393 00:17:08,706 --> 00:17:09,906 Speaker 5: It was the coolest deal. 394 00:17:09,906 --> 00:17:12,266 Speaker 4: And every kid, no matter where you grew up, you 395 00:17:12,506 --> 00:17:16,306 Speaker 4: bought that eleven Bledsoe Jersey because it was this new, different, 396 00:17:16,466 --> 00:17:19,226 Speaker 4: cool logo. Now we talk about throwbacks, but back in 397 00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:21,146 Speaker 4: the day in fifth grade when a team rolled out 398 00:17:21,146 --> 00:17:23,506 Speaker 4: a new Remember when the Phoenix Suns brought out that 399 00:17:23,626 --> 00:17:26,506 Speaker 4: new logo and those new uniforms and Barkley was there 400 00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:27,666 Speaker 4: and it was so cool. 401 00:17:27,906 --> 00:17:32,106 Speaker 5: Ah, that was it. This is Kevin Johnson, Ray Marley. 402 00:17:31,866 --> 00:17:35,706 Speaker 4: Tom chains Fall, Big Oliver Miller in the middle. This 403 00:17:35,866 --> 00:17:36,586 Speaker 4: was what it was. 404 00:17:36,906 --> 00:17:40,146 Speaker 5: Loved it new Jersey, new logo. 405 00:17:40,466 --> 00:17:42,866 Speaker 4: Nothing cooler as a fifth grader to come into school 406 00:17:42,946 --> 00:17:44,146 Speaker 4: and start showing that stuff. 407 00:17:44,186 --> 00:17:54,106 Speaker 1: Hall The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of 408 00:17:54,186 --> 00:17:56,506 Speaker 1: the NFL and partnership with iHeartRadio. 409 00:17:56,866 --> 00:17:58,386 Speaker 5: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio 410 00:17:58,466 --> 00:18:03,306 Speaker 1: Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.