1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Michael Bush is a really good offensive player and turn 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: himself into a really good defender at first base. You're 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: still looking for another level. Welcome into Northside Territory Foul 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm Saada Sharma with Patrick Mooney, 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: where your Cubs beat writers for the Athletic and we 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: are talking all Cubs today. We're going to talk a 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: little bit about the draft, a little bit about the 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: state of the Cubs farm system and and who can 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: impact the team now, who can be traded for impact 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: players now? And and you know, just the better, better 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: overall vibes of the system, but the need for for 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: that to produce results on the major league team and 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: the field, to show fans like you know, this is 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: more than just a hyped system. There's there's some results here. Uh, Patrick, 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: how have you been enjoying this madness with You've taken 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: much of the bulk of the of the draft information, 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: which I appreciate, But how you what have you gathered 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: from that? 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: I mean to I've I have not slept since Sunday. 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: I've been grinding on tape non stop. I've been you know, 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: checking exit vlos. I had to google ev ninety just 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: to make sure. 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: I knew what that was. 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: You know, Cubs have twenty future Hall of famers they're 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: about to sign, so you know, it was. 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: No, I I can'd. 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: I think it's good to talk about the drafts on 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: that been on my mind of like I think you 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: feel the same way of like I loved covering it 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: in June. It was such a good like change of 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: pace because you know, whatever, it's middle of June. You've 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: got you know, you've given up time for the major 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: league season. You can use a change of pace. But 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: having it here during this week is just a classic 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: major League baseball unforced error that literally no one likes 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: this setup and like inside Baseball for our listeners, but 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: it shows you just how tone depf major League Baseball 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: can be. Like it's not good for players who have 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: this kind of like you know, dead time between the 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: end of their season and there's not much runway left 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: once you do sign gms want to focus on their 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: major league team and get into the trade deadline. And 43 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: you know, in terms of marketing or in terms of 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: like media priorities, it's like you've got all star selections 45 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: that you got to write about. You've got kind of 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: the All Star break, mid season analysis, You've got the 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: trade deadline, so to like, I don't know, go wild on, 48 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: you know some of these kids we've never heard of, 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: Like it is silly, but I did learn a lot 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: from chatting with and listening to Dan Kantrovitz, the Cubs 51 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: vice president scouting, and can share the extent that I 52 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: know anything about this, be happy to chat it up here. 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'll just reiterate what you said there, like 54 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: why have the draft now? Like it is the most 55 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: frustrating thing for people in the game and for media 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: as well, Like we don't want to cover this right now. 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: It's like what there are probably five teams that aren't 58 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: fully engaged as far as their writers wanting to write 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: about the season right now, especially with the way the 60 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: baseball is set up, like so many teams are still 61 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: in it. You want to kind of look at the 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: first half, the unofficial first half, and what the teams need, 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Like the trade deadline's coming up. It's just really bad, 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: Like there's no attention paid to it. Like I love 65 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: the draft. I think it's fun and interesting. I'm always 66 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: into prospects and trying to understand who's next. I just 67 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: could didn't have the time to get into it this year. 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Like I texted some context and said, hey, I'll be 69 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: in touch, but I don't have time to do the 70 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: preview stuff because there's too much crap going on. 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: Especially when they're picking like fourteenth two. 72 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: We'd be all over it right right kind of like 73 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's and it's like there's an obvious time. 74 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: What the point you made about like them being down, 75 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: Like that's that's unhealthy for them. Now now they their 76 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: season has ended, they've ramped down, and now they get 77 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: like what like half the picks probably of each team, 78 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: like you probably like ten get like go to like 79 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: instructs or what have go to Arizona or Florida wherever 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: their their team's uh spring training complexes and and work 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: out and whatever, do that stuff, but like half of 82 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: them probably play and they have to ramp back up. 83 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: The Arizona Complex League is I think about to wrap up, 84 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: isn't it? Or is that the I'm not. 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: Sure one of those. I'm not sure. 86 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: So some of these leagues are kind of ramping down, 87 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: like where it's it's weird. I don't know, maybe not 88 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Arizona Complex League it's it's probably DSL and stuff like that. 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: That's uh, that's wrapping up. But still it's like it's 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: just terrible. It's it's going to end up. By the 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: time they sign, it's like a month of games for 92 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: them to play, but when do they ramp up, so 93 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: it'll be two weeks of games for them to play. 94 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: It's just poorly set up. So like let's get into 95 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: the pick that the number one pick primarily camp Smith. Listen, 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: I like I like the I listened to some of 97 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: his inviws. Uh, seems like he's a talkative kid. Seems 98 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: like he's he's got a nice little backstory with the Cubs. 99 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: You know that that's going to attract fans. It's a 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: perfect little tidbit for Marquis to put up and make 101 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: a commercial out of, right, Like, like I think it 102 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: was like set up for that almost it was so 103 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: perfect like for Marquis to make it. If he ever 104 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: makes his debut, you know that's being brought back. Uh, yeah, 105 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: sounds like it sounds like a nice player, like a 106 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: very similar profile to what Canterbitz has proven. He kind 107 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: of likes these college guys with great cape cod seasons 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: improve over their course, Like look at Josh Rivera, that's 109 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: one guy that they drafted last year. Terrible. I want 110 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: to say, like freshman or sophomore year, really like improved 111 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: over the course of his college career. Camp Smith only 112 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: two seasons. I think he was an older freshman. Really 113 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: improved from freshman year Cape Cod League sophomore year. And 114 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: you like to see stuff like that actual player development, 115 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: And from my understanding, what you gathered was counterbits and 116 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: the player development group have have some ideas or some 117 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: that they see something that they may be able to 118 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: do to get more out of him. 119 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the funny part about some of this stuff. 120 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: It's like, we absolutely love the player and we have 121 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: like ten things we want to change as soon as 122 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: he puts on the Obviously, that's you know ingest an oversimplification. 123 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: That definitely a very Cubs pick in the first round. 124 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: You can go back to the THEO era as well, 125 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: with Jason McLeod and Matt Dorry running things like love 126 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: they loved the college. 127 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: Hitters, and. 128 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: Smith said, you know, after the season, I had no zooms, 129 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: no meetings. 130 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 3: No phone calls with the Cubs. And then he said 131 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: something like, obviously. 132 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: They knew what they were doing, and like, I like that, 133 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: and you know, I'd ask Cantribitz about that, and you 134 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: know what he said was, we got to know this 135 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: guy our area scout believe it's Ralph Rais when he 136 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: was coming out of high school and wasn't sure how 137 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: hard to go in the draft because he had Florida 138 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 2: State in his back pocket. And really what the draft 139 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: has become, it's really financial negotiations. You know, Like clearly 140 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: I think camp Smith would have been, you know, one 141 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: of the best like thousand players draft eligible, say two 142 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: years ago, but you know, you have to kind of 143 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: make it worth his while. And I thought it was 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: interesting that Cam said, you know, going to school was 145 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: the best decision I ever made. And so the Cubs 146 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: got to know him a little bit while he was 147 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: in high school. They saw him play shortstop, which gives 148 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: them confidence that he can stick at third base. I 149 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: mean Kenstrivit said, quote zero concerns about staying at the 150 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: hot corner, and so you know, it's definitely very on 151 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: brand for this franchise. 152 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean. 153 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: Smith was kind of asked about the Cubs like here 154 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: and there, and I just wanted to clarify because you 155 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: never know, right, like someone be like you, I think 156 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: Kate Horton was going to go would have played with 157 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: Ed Howard like like I think they had been on 158 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: kind of the same recruiting circuit to Oklahoma and with 159 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: agencies and like you know, the travel ball culture. I 160 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: was just kind of curious, you know, if Cam had 161 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: any connections to the Cubs existing or the city of Chicago, 162 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: and that was kind of where he had said, you know, 163 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: his grandparents. 164 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: Or from Indiana or at least lived in Indiana when 165 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: he was a young boy. 166 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: He didn't remember like exactly how old he was or whatever, 167 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: but he got he. 168 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: Took the tour of Wrigley Field, and like you said, Zada, 169 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: that was the perfect marquee commercial right there. 170 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: But definitely someone who has a little bit of charisma, 171 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: like on the zoom you know, he you know, say 172 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: each person's name of you know, how you doing Andy, 173 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: or you know what's up Patrick, like just you know 174 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: very which is obviously like a super small thing that 175 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: makes like reporters go, oh my god, he's so personal. 176 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: He's so charismatic, like read someone's name off the zoom screen. 177 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, real physical player has some some personality, long 178 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 2: track record of performance against high levels of competition, and 179 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: and that is a point Kendip. It's made as well 180 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: of like when you're a programmed like Florida State and 181 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: you're going to the College World Series, the access is 182 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: just more limited to the player than if he was 183 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: still in high school. 184 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: So they felt very comfortable to the point where he. 185 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: Was not a guy they felt they needed to get 186 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: to know at the draft combine. 187 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like the idea of being high level competition. 188 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean he would have played Wake Forest a few 189 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: times right in the ACC. That's obviously one of the 190 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: elite teams going right now. Yeah, from what I've read 191 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: and what I've gathered from some of my contacts is, 192 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, like the end zone swinging miss is low, 193 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't chase too much. He's you know, we'll see 194 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: if he sticks at third. It sounds like the Cubs 195 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: are optimistic. But as far as offensive profile, it's like 196 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: this is becoming like all the like It's what the 197 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: spreads sheet spits out right, Like I have model, the models, 198 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: the model likes guys like this, And I'm not saying 199 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: that the scouts don't. I'm not suggesting that the Cubs 200 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: don't value their scouts. It's like this is a model driven, uh, 201 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: model heavy amateur scouting department, and and the scouts are valued. 202 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: But that's like, look at the draft picks. There's a 203 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: lot of model guys that they like, and I that's frankly, 204 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: the results in the minors so far suggest that they're 205 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: they're doing good work. They're they're they're getting some guys 206 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: that are popping up in later rounds. They're getting guys 207 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: that you know, are making a name for themselves in 208 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: the miners. I guess, you know, I don't want to 209 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: dive too deep into the rest of the draft. Patrick, 210 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: We we can. We can maybe save that for another 211 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: time when both of us have gathered more info, or 212 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: we can. 213 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: Talk about it six years from now when we right. 214 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, exactly, but I think so this is so, 215 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: this is the this is the point of of what 216 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: the draft is, right, Like, you want more than first rounders. 217 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: There's there's a reason why Dan Canterwittz was brought in. 218 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: There's a reason why changes were made. The Cubs had 219 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: a lot of success with first rounders and outside of 220 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: the draft, you highlighted recently. The twenty fourteen draft just 221 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: not allowed of success outside of the first round, right, 222 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: Like we there's like David Bodie is the name from 223 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: from the previous group outside of the first round, and 224 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: obviously Justin Steel's a stud, Dylan Cees turned into a stud, 225 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: and and that's There's not much else. I think there's 226 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, we're starting to see some guys pop up 227 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: as far as relievers go, like Hunter Biggie. I can't 228 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: remember when Porter Hodge was gone. 229 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Porter Hodge. O. This is Jeremiah Strata. 230 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 2: I mean, awesome for the Brewers. DJ Hurris has had 231 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 2: some kind of lights out starts for the Nationals. 232 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 233 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: I think it's just some of this stuff takes time. 234 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: It's weird too that I think all of those names 235 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: we just mentioned came out of high school. Yeah, college, 236 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: I think that might have a little more certainty with 237 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: college arms and Cubs had couple here or there, But 238 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: for the most part, it's been those high school guys that. 239 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: Took a while. 240 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: And I think you can really speak to this that 241 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: I was going over my old notes and it was 242 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: a Cubs executive talking about Dylan Cees how that he 243 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: was drafted and they knew he was gonna have to 244 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 2: undergo Tommy John surgery, and so the Cubs kind of 245 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: presented this plan of how it would go and you know, 246 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: the care he would get, the supervision, he would get, 247 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: the resources he'd be provided, and see was like I 248 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: guess continues to be like very just curious about pitching 249 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 2: and these a little. 250 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: Offbeat. 251 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: Maybe you would say, I'm just thinking about that, like 252 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: poem he did, I don't know, slider poems and things 253 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: like that, but like someone who was just like really 254 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: interested in some of these like technologies and resources and 255 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: ideas that the Cups were just kind. 256 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: Of bringing online. And there was certainly some trial and error. 257 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: Craig Breslo came in later. 258 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: And expanded it and defined it in different ways. But 259 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: like that kind of long tail of development, I think 260 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: you're seeing it with someone like Porter Hodge and side 261 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: of you had mentioned his name, you know, weeks ago 262 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: before he came up, of like when the bullpen was imploding, 263 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: like who can help? And I do think that's gonna 264 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: be one of the bigger second half storylines here of 265 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: like you know, who can help? 266 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: Who can they like get better and that's almost the 267 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: trade deadline will be a part of that too. But 268 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: just like can they. 269 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: Get those young guys to another level here and like 270 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: late July, August, September and you know win what's going 271 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: to be a lot more you know, one run kind 272 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: of narrow type games. 273 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to you do have to 274 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: give a little credit here to how they've what they've 275 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: done with pitching development. Right, We've talked about it plenty, 276 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: but like that, we're seeing some fruits of the labor 277 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: and and like is there more? Is there more? Like 278 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: when that the the player development when it comes to 279 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: position players would like to see the results at the 280 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: major league level, we're seeing like like you go look 281 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: at some of these numbers, It's like, huh, maybe this 282 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: guy can help. Well, when are they going to help? 283 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: I guess is the question? I think, you know, we 284 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: have to look at someone like Matt Shaw and say, 285 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: is this guy going to impact the team this year? 286 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: With what two months ago? We were talking about that, right, Patrick, 287 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: you and I had little tidbits in our pieces bringing 288 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: that up. I'm not sure if that's still the case, 289 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Like where it's going to really dictate, like is he 290 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: is he on the verge of coming to tripa A. 291 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: It sounds like he probably is, Like we could probably 292 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: hear a move there in the next couple of weeks, 293 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: if not soon after the break. That, yes, that puts 294 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: him on the verge, right, just like Mois's biosterus, who's 295 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: probably on the verge. And then it becomes where's the 296 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: need and what's the like what's the focus of the team? Right? 297 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it twenty twenty four? Is it twenty 298 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: twenty five? Yeah? Good point, and what kind of moves 299 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: are they making in the next two weeks here? But 300 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: this system is it's at an interesting point in that 301 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: and we keep writing this where's the impact talent? Now? 302 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes impact talent surprises us, right, Like Matt Shaw could 303 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: come up and like like these number, like we hear 304 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: that he's hitting the ball and the impacting the ball 305 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: in the same way and double A is weird right now, 306 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: and his numbers should be even better. I think his 307 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: numbers are good for where the league that he's in, 308 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: Like if he's if he is what he looks like 309 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: he is, what position is he? I don't know if 310 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: that's an impact player? Is that an MVP or a 311 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: really good player, Like they have a few of those, right, 312 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: Like as frustrating as says Azuki or Ian Hapkin be 313 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: go look at their numbers in general. They're really good players, right, 314 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: They're not superstars. Michael Bush is a really good offensive 315 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: player and turn himself into a really good defender for 316 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: a space You're still looking for another level. It's really 317 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: hard to develop, really hard to find. I'm not sure 318 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: if they have that. Moys's bit by asteris looks really impressive. 319 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: The fact that he's doing that at twenty, I do 320 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: wonder can he help this team this year? Like you 321 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: would have posed that to me even a month ago, 322 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: I would have said slow down, But he just keeps 323 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: hitting and you know, like what what what does that 324 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: look like? What how does that impact the team? Has 325 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 1: he almost like leaped someone like Owen Casey. As far 326 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: as the pecking order of who they who they may 327 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: call upon, I think it all depends on what like 328 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: these like what are they looking to do with these guys? 329 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: What do they see best for their player development? And 330 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: what is what situation is the team in Like if 331 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: the team is competing, does that inhibit them from calling 332 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: them up? Or if the team is selling. Is it like, no, 333 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: we don't want to bring them up in this situation, 334 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: or or maybe they do, maybe they want to no 335 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: pressure situation. Like it's just like those those factors I 336 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: think really matter here. And of course what we'll get 337 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: into tradable guys too. But maybe I'm curious what you've heard, 338 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: Uh you've been on the road a little bit and 339 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: talk to some people as far as the chance for 340 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: someone like Moises by a steros. 341 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: Or yeah, I wouldn't say it's like imminent or probable, 342 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: but it's not a crazy thought. 343 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: I mean it's something that internally they have to consider. 344 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: When he's at Triple A Iowa, he plays catcher to 345 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: what extent or at what level? I'm not quite sure. 346 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: We've seen how hard it's. 347 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: Been for Miguel Amaya as an older guy to adjust 348 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: who for all the injuries that I had, like he 349 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: did have more experience than at a higher level. 350 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm surprised that, Or I should say, 351 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: if the cups like didn't call a Casey or Shaw 352 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 2: or any of those guys when their offense is just 353 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: an absolute tail spin, and when counsel is saying things 354 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: like you know, the the answer is rarely the next player, 355 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 2: like the answers aren't here. I think that is, you know, 356 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: a pretty strong belief. We were talking about this the 357 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: other day. You mentioned how well Miles master Bony has 358 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: played at third base, Like it almost makes you feel 359 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: like he has to be part of that equation there, 360 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: particularly as you wrote against while playing behind ground ball 361 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: pitchers like Hendrix and Steel, like someone who can convert 362 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 2: those double plays or get to those balls, you know, 363 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: before they go into the outfield. Like all that stuff 364 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: adds up in a really meaningful way. So you know, 365 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: I think the Cubs went into the season like maybe 366 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: sew our case he does kind of force our hand, 367 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 2: and I don't That's not the vibe I'm getting. 368 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: But Mois's I think is a guy who when. 369 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: You look at you know, twenty years old hitting at 370 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: that level, I mean that's I mean we were told, 371 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: you know, at this time last year, this guy's got 372 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: a sweet left handed swing, and I think he was 373 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: an a. 374 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: Ball at that point. 375 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: Those people were right on, and so that is obviously 376 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: a position of need. And I think you're right to 377 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: point out, like we have no idea what the landscape 378 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 2: will be like in August and September, Like, is this 379 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 2: team going to be in it going forward and need 380 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: specific things that specific moments or is it going to 381 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: be kind of playing out the string? And I don't 382 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: know the answer to this either, but like what is 383 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: what did Pete Crow Armstrong's. 384 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 3: Debut kind of tell the Cubs? I mean, that did 385 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: not go very well. 386 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: You're supposed to on the bases and play great defense, 387 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: and there were a lot of over anxious, over eager 388 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: moments there that just did not really match up. Now, 389 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: to Pete's credit, he came back a better player and 390 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: I think he learned from that, and his counsel has 391 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: done a good job of telling him just focus on X. 392 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: Y and Z and don't worry about the offense. 393 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: But like, that did not go well last year, and 394 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: you know, the Cubs are going to be playing one 395 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: run games in mid to late September. They can't have 396 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: some of the mistakes that happened with Pete and that 397 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: was kind of given ninety feet to the other team, 398 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: you know, diving for balls that you just let fall 399 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: in front of you, or like getting thrown out at 400 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: third base. It's just like stuff like that. I think 401 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: leaves the Cubs in a really interesting spot here, and 402 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: it's kind of the central tension to like Jed's time 403 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: here of like how how much do you prioritize and 404 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: protect that you know, kind of abstract future and how 405 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: much of it is just kind of like going for 406 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: it right now. 407 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the PCA promotion is kind of instructive 408 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: on a few things, Like you really got to emphasize 409 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: to the guy like, hey, you're not here to save anything. 410 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: You're here, Yeah, here's your role, Here's what we need 411 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: you to do. Don't trying to press anyone. Like he 412 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: was going one hundred miles per hour, Like everything that 413 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: he did we've seen this year. He's a better base 414 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: runner than he showed last year. Like there was such 415 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: reckless things that he did on the bass Pats that 416 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: I feel like he was just trying to do stuff 417 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: and wasn't like paying attention to a scouting report. And 418 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: like Elias Diaz has this cannon for an arm and 419 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: got him I think a couple times in Colorado right 420 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: that that stands out to me. And just like the 421 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: lack of familiarity with his corner outfielders, things like that, 422 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: just like he was he was trying to make plays 423 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: instead of just letting it come to him. I do 424 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: feel like it's gotten better there. Well, like it was 425 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: also instructive I think for all of us as far 426 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: as analysis of that, Like he had what like twenty 427 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: plate appearances or something like that, and we like, like 428 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: even Jed was saying, like, well we saw what his 429 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: weakness was, did we? Like we thought it was the 430 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: high fastball. It's because that's all they threw him. Like 431 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: I think that's what Like, isn't that like old baseball 432 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: maxim like, here's my fastball, try and hit it. I'm 433 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna throw it to you until you can't exactly for me, 434 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: you can hit it. Well, he didn't prove he could 435 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: hit it right or lay off of the high one. 436 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: We didn't get to really see as other holes. Now 437 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: we're starting to see them right, like the breaking ball 438 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: down and in and like I talked to Pete about this, 439 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: He's he's immensely frustrated by how he his struggles with that, 440 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: but he also knows like I'm going to put in 441 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: the work and like this is something that I talk 442 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: to other people about, like they that's not a concern 443 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: him putting in the work, his focus, his ability to 444 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: identify these issues. It's always like, what do they come 445 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: out the other side? You just don't know. Right, you 446 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: can put in all the work, you just don't know 447 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: if they come out on the other side. I think 448 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: they do believe that this. This leads me to another topic. Patrick. 449 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: There's I look at their top I look at like 450 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: the updated top one hundreds. Most of them have like 451 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: seven cups on this list. Right, there's Kevin al Contra 452 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: is one of them, right, and he's starting to look 453 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: better at the plate after finally being healthy in a 454 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: really terrible slow start. One thing I get from scouts 455 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: around the game is and someone told me this. Someone 456 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: told me in pretty much twenty to twenty five other orgs, 457 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: he'd be the best center fielder, he'd be the best 458 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: defensive center fielder. Cubs are lucky enough to have one 459 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: of the elites in Armstrong. That really changes things because 460 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: it went from this guy's going to be a power 461 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: hitting corner outfielder to whoa, whoa wait, this guy figured out, 462 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: like he's got these long limbs, long strides, can cover 463 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: a ton of ground in center field. He's pretty fast 464 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: and he's got this offensive upside if he can play center, Like, 465 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: suddenly that's a really I mean, it was always a 466 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: really valuable prospect, but now it's like it makes it 467 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: like scouts are more interested, even more interested and intrigued 468 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: that like now they have to weigh what like how 469 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: do they handle that? Is is he a trade piece now? Right? 470 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: Is he a trade piece in the off season? Do 471 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: they get bowled over for an like do they fall 472 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: in love with all Contra and get bowled over for 473 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: an offer for Pete crow Armstrong? Right? These are the 474 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: way like very much like value oriented decisions that they 475 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: have to that they have to make. Another name I 476 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: would pay attention to if the Cubs are buyers, and 477 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: I think we need to couch this with it's going 478 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: to be really hard for them to be buyers for rentals, 479 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: especially if they're giving up a bigger prospect, right for 480 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: bigger names. Yeah, yeah, they like, it's just going to 481 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: be hard, Like they unless they win the next ten 482 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: to fifteen games or something like that and and like 483 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: go to eighty percent playoff something, you know, chances it's 484 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: just very unlikely. So, but James Trianto's has upped his 485 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: value as well, and we talked so much about Match Show. 486 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: It's because you and I both hear a ton of 487 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: positive from the ORG on mattch Shaw. This org loves 488 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: match Shaw, right, we've heard that pretty much like a 489 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: month after they drafted him, we've been hearing nothing but 490 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: rave reviews. I talked to someone in the ORG that 491 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 1: said it, you know, he, like Trianto's, is right behind 492 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: Shaw as far as the work ethic and the dogged 493 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: nature at which they take how seriously they take their 494 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: craft when especially like in the cage and working with 495 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: coaches and really like understanding what they need to do 496 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: to improve. And if you look at his career path 497 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: so far, he's kind of done that. Like it was like, Okay, 498 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: this is this is the guy that will put the 499 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: ball in play, but he'll never really tap into power. 500 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: I believe, like I don't have his numbers in front 501 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: of me, but I believe he's starting to tap into 502 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: that power now. Yeah. Yeah, he's doubled his ISO this 503 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: year or nearly. He's he's a much better prospect than 504 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: he was entering the season. And like Shaw, he's like, 505 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, like you're not one hundred percent where he's 506 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: playing you could see him at second, you could see 507 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: him somewhere like in the outfield if needed, you could, like, 508 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: I think shop has a better chance of sticking in 509 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: the infield than Toreanto's does. But regardless, like this is 510 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: a bat forward prospect that that people like I would 511 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: pay attention to those two names. Right when it comes 512 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: to possible trades. If the Cubs are being aggressive, it 513 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: would have I think it would have to be to 514 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: help twenty twenty five too, So we may be talking 515 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: about this again in the off season. Those are the 516 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: types of things that I think about when I look 517 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: at the like at least the top of the Cubs 518 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: prospect you know, they're like top seven to eight prospects. 519 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: That's what I think about. And I'll just add like 520 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: I do like the depth they're creating. Every single time 521 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: I look like you and I like looked at each other, like, 522 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: what is this draft pick with Jackson Wiggins? He's I 523 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: know it's the lower levels, but he looks pretty good. 524 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: Like they they're they're doing well as far as early 525 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: results with their draft so far. Right, Like I think 526 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I'm going to give them a pass because 527 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: of how weird that was, and it was the beginning 528 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: of a new regime and it wasn't fully formed. Like 529 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: I want to see results on the major league field, 530 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: but I do. I do think I'm seeing like it 531 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: never was like this where it's like it's not just 532 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: the first round guy that you're paying. Like if you 533 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: look up box scores or tough to scouts, they're like, 534 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting, this guy's this guy could be 535 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: a fifth starter. This like Jackson Wiggins, who knows what 536 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: his upside is, he could be a top one under 537 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: prospect someday. Like that's that wasn't happening. It just wasn't. 538 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think two interesting thoughts there with uh, I'm 539 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: glad you mentioned Trianto's because he I believe he's just 540 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: in the All Star Futures Game and he you know, 541 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: he's someone who reclassified to come out into the draft earlier. 542 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: And what the Cubs said then was like, this is. 543 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: What the best college hitters in the draft look like 544 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: in high school and just for comparison. James Triantos was 545 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: born in January two thousand and three. Cam Smith was 546 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: born in February two thousand and three, and Treanto's already 547 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: has a very nice half season at Double A Tennessee 548 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: where we don't know exactly why or what's going on, 549 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: but the offensive numbers are down. It is not a 550 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: good offensive environment, and Trianto's has an OPS close to 551 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: eight hundred, and so I think this is something that 552 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: Jed has wrestled with for a while now of like 553 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: what is the best version of the Cubs? 554 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: What is the longest runway? 555 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: And a lot of these kind of contracts are timed 556 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: up through twenty twenty six, and so like much as 557 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: you love Nico Horner, like kind of what happens to 558 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,239 Speaker 2: him after that? 559 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: And Ianhab. 560 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: By the end of twenty twenty six will be a 561 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: free agent, won't have no trade clause, like spots will open. 562 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: But the problem that I think Jed would agree with 563 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: is that Triple A Baseball is like, if it's not worthless, 564 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: it's not a very productive tool in terms of like 565 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: helping a player. 566 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 3: Finish off his development. Like there's a huge gap between 567 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: the show and IOWA. 568 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: It's maybe bigger than it's ever been, and so like 569 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: kind of waiting around for that is extremely difficult, and 570 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: then that runs the risk of I was just looking 571 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: through kind of the cups forty man of you know, 572 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: it's really unfortunate. But like Brennan Davis is hurt again, 573 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: the pitching, like how long can it stay healthy? And 574 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: we're looking at now Kate Horton laps we heard heading 575 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: into the All Star break was like throwing off a 576 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: flat ground in Arizona. That does not sound like someone 577 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: who's going to be ramped up really hard and really 578 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: fast to get to Wrigley Field. And now there you 579 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: take a number seven pick who already had Tommy John, 580 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: who didn't have a lot of innings on his resume. 581 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: To begin with. 582 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: That to me, just speaking as an interpreter, not like 583 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: hard information, doesn't sound like he's going to be back 584 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: very soon or like that they're going to like push 585 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: this hard to get him back. Jordan Wicks was he 586 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: is is an oblique His recovery from that had sort 587 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: of plateaued at least that's what it was last week, 588 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: and counsels said that you could remove him from that 589 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: group of pictures. They hoped to get healthy by the. 590 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: End of July. 591 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: And now, like Jordan Wicks is not John Lester, okay, 592 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: but like he's shown, he's like a competent major league 593 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: starter and has like an interesting you know, kind of 594 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: he brings something interesting to the table, and I think 595 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: you can project you a nice long major league career, 596 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: but he hasn't done that yet. He hasn't like dominated yet. 597 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: And Ben Brown as well. I mean, when he was 598 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: throwing that no hitter against the Brewers were flirting with 599 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: a no hitter, it was like, oh, man, that David 600 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: Robertson trade, Like Jad's a genius and like it was 601 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: a good trade. Interesting pitcher's got great stuff. Interesting dude 602 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: as well, very thoughtful and curious, but like you know, 603 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: he's been kind of stuck in catch play unless something's 604 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: changed here during during the All Star break, but that 605 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: did not sound like a I they were close to 606 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: activating because he's still feeling those symptoms in his neck. 607 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 3: And so because you're. 608 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 2: Curious how to ask counsel, I was like, yeah, someone's 609 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: asking me this, what Like I'm assuming you don't have 610 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: an answer. Yeah, but whenever he is healthy, like what 611 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: sort of role would he be? 612 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 3: And he's like, just get out. So it's like, oh outgetter. 613 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: He's like it is like murk on his face, and 614 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, outgetter. I got it, so in 615 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: case you're wondering to see him as an outgetter in 616 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: the future. 617 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: Side, he mentioned that he mentioned something similar to me 618 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis about outgetterings. I'm like, you know what, 619 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: the fans love that they love hearing this outgetter h 620 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: which was obviously me just giving it back to him. Yeah, 621 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: he I love I do. I mean, he's right, it's 622 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: so sometimes it's so like it's uh he also, I'm 623 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: getting a little in the weeds here. But at one point, 624 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, we kind of ask more questions after the 625 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: camera's gone right, like but it's still on the record, 626 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: but it's it's just us reporters, and as the camera's 627 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: kind of walking away, I kind of like sometimes I 628 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: like have my mouth open or like you can tell 629 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm like thinking, and he's like, he looks at me. 630 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: He's like, you have more, don't you? You didn't like 631 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: my answer? You didn't like my answer about hitting with 632 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: runners in scoring position? Well, what was that not good 633 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: enough for me? 634 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: It mustn't be. 635 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, the answer is fine. I 636 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: was going to a different topic, but I just he 637 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: likes to poke fun and he likes to he knows 638 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: some of his sayings aren't satisfactory. I think to the masses, right, 639 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: I would get it. He's satisfactory to everyone. They're like, no, 640 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: he's a closer, No he's a starter. No, he's an 641 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: eighth inning setup man. That's not how his brain works. 642 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: He's looking together twenty seven outs and like it's like 643 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: when I asked him, one of the first questions I 644 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: ever asked him was about value of of like how 645 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: the impact of a of a superstar in the lineup 646 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: and and ultimately it's like you're piecing together wins. It's like, 647 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: if it's one guy has eight is worth eight, fine, 648 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: But if you can have a few other guys that, 649 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you have a five and a three, 650 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: that can maybe equal the same thing. Right, But it's 651 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: not satisfactory always, it's not. It doesn't always like for 652 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: the average baseball fan especially, but it's not how his 653 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: mind works anyways. Yeah, he's a this A I think 654 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: there's this is going to be a busy like next 655 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks beyond just what we just talked about, right, Like, 656 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ins and outs as far as 657 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: the injuries go like Mike Talkman is supposed to be back. 658 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like Friday for sure. Uh, there's a minor 659 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: move that was made. Daniel Planci was sent down and 660 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: they added a player from Kansas City a relief. Yes, 661 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: and I'm meant to look this up. Is he on 662 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: the forty man because then there's another move coming. 663 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 2: Jesus to Noco. Okay, I don't know if I pronounce 664 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: that right. I don't know if he's on the forty man. 665 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: I assume not because there wasn't another move conveyed to us, 666 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: because I don't I think that, Like Julian Merriweather's really close. 667 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: Like there's just a lot of things happening right now. 668 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see how they handle it. 669 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: You mentioned Brendan Davis. There's Matt Morvis and Nick Maderill 670 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: are both Minor league on the Minor League IL. That's 671 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: three guys not on your roster on the IL and 672 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: the minors with decently significant injuries. I don't know how 673 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: they're going to handle all this stuff. That's up to 674 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: them to figure out. We'll we'll obviously give you guys 675 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 1: the news when we have more of it. But yeah, 676 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: right now. We're just waiting to see what happens in 677 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: the second half. Like it's a very weird spot that 678 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: the Cubs are in because it's yet again we're in 679 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: this like we're not clear on what they're doing. This 680 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: feels a little different than last year because last year 681 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: happened so quickly where we shifted and it's felt like 682 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: every day we were changing our minds. It's a different 683 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: feeling because of what they have on the roster, right, 684 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: so we know it's not going to be some huge 685 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: sell off and it's not going to be a completely 686 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: different team whether they buy or sell. It just isn't 687 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: like especially if they if it's sell, quote unquote, it 688 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: won't be a majorly different team. All right, Patrick, We'll 689 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: be back at this again later this week. This is 690 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: a Northside territory. Thanks so much for everyone behind the 691 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: scenes for all the work you do to put this 692 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: podcast together. Thank you for everyone that listens. Make sure 693 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: to rate, review and subscribe to the Podcastree Patrick. In 694 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: my work at the Athletic, we'll be I get it 695 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: in covering this team all week and they're during their 696 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: homestand and then next week in ac and Sincy before 697 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: the trade deadline. It's going to be hectic. We will 698 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: be there for you. Thanks everyone for listening to think 699 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: of