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Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Who Did What Now?

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Speaker 1: The history podcast That's not Your History class with me,

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Speaker 1: your host, Katie Charlwood, History Harlotte and reader of books.

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Speaker 1: If you're thinking this podcast started a little bit differently

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Speaker 1: than normal, just like the last episode, Yes, I have moved.

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Speaker 1: I have moved to a new host, and due to

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Speaker 1: turns out copyright, I've changed. I've changed the intro slowly

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Speaker 1: going to like fix it for the old ones, and

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Speaker 1: some of those old episodes are going to be remade because,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, the sound is terrible in some of them,

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Speaker 1: Like some of the editing is super dodgy, right, it

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Speaker 1: is absolutely shocking, and so we're going to fix that.

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Speaker 1: That being said, I do have news for you all,

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Speaker 1: and that is the Boston tickets just dropped. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to see me in Boston, Albany, or Syracuse,

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Speaker 1: all those tickets are currently available. It's actually really funny.

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Speaker 1: I got a message being like, it's two o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the morning and I almost threw my cats across the

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Speaker 1: room to get my credit card to book a ticket.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, that is the energy I love to see,

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Speaker 1: which is great because I'm really really excited to come

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Speaker 1: in actually be in this area, and as far as

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Speaker 1: I know, Oakmand and Pennsylvania should be dropping soon, relatively soon.

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Speaker 1: Once that's up, it'll go on the events page on

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Speaker 1: the website, I'll post it on the socials and we

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Speaker 1: were going to be all gravy from there. What else?

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Speaker 1: I had something else? Yes, So I come home the

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Speaker 1: other day to find what I can only describe as

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Speaker 1: many notes through my door and it's from my post

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Speaker 1: day Mummy postman. And I'm like, all right, that's weird

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Speaker 1: because I'm not used to having, you know, a bunch

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Speaker 1: of notes. And it's like, we tried to deliver your parcel.

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Speaker 1: Could it in your safe space? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, that happens. So drive up to the depot,

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Speaker 1: pick up what is a massive box because I wasn't

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Speaker 1: expecting a massive box. And it turns out that it's

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Speaker 1: the memory for mattress topper from my wish list and

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Speaker 1: like I had put sort of you know, things that

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Speaker 1: like on the wish list, just depending because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens. And I hurt my

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Speaker 1: back during the week, I slipt in some ice and ah,

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Speaker 1: the perfect opportunity, the perfect time for this memory foam

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Speaker 1: top or to arrive. So I got that. I got

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Speaker 1: some books, the Gold Skull Scissors. A good few things

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Speaker 1: from my wish list arrived actually, and it really really

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Speaker 1: lifted my spirits, like because everyone sends a little note

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Speaker 1: with it, and I keep them. So I have like

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Speaker 1: a little foo full of Amazon notes from like this.

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Speaker 1: And I know, I am aware that Amazon is the

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Speaker 1: devil and you know, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: That being said, I do have an updated like fan

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Speaker 1: mail page address on the contact page on the website,

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Speaker 1: so that's there. So if you do want to send something,

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Speaker 1: send it there. Usually chicken once a week to see

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Speaker 1: if anything has arrived for me, because there's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like a peel box, but not a peel box,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. But it's there and it's nice.

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Speaker 1: And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, Katie, quit

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Speaker 1: your jibber jabba in fact me, in fact you I will.

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Speaker 1: But first we've got to get our source on. Our

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Speaker 1: sources are Elon Musk's anti Semitic, apartheid loving grandfather by

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Speaker 1: Joshua Benton, Social Discredit, anti Emotism, social credit, and the

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Speaker 1: Jewish Response by Janine Stingle. The World according to Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk's Grandfather by Jill Lapore, Joshua N. Haldeman DC. The

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Speaker 1: Canadian Years nineteen twenty six to nineteen fifty by Scott

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Speaker 1: Haldeman and Joseph C. Keating, How the roots of the

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Speaker 1: Papal Mafia extend to Aparthe't South Africa by Chris mcgreel,

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Speaker 1: The International Conspiracy to establish a world dictatorship and the

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Speaker 1: Menace to South Africa by Joshua N. Haldeman. And of

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Speaker 1: course we have our old favourites, History dot com and

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Speaker 1: biography dot com. iOS it in coomfortably good. Then let's begin.

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Speaker 1: We are currently in February at time of recording, which

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Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, over in the

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Speaker 1: UK and Ireland it is LGBTQ History Month, but over

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Speaker 1: in the States and Canada also I believe it is

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Speaker 1: Black History Month. And because my listeners are fairly global,

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Speaker 1: like you all are all over the place. That being said, Hello,

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Speaker 1: whoever listens to me in Trinidad and Tobago, because I

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Speaker 1: know you listen, and you always have me in the charts,

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Speaker 1: so you're great. Don't know who I was listening to

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Speaker 1: me there, but hey, hope you're having a good time.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, well, why not start off Black History

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Speaker 1: Month by talking about a big, dirty racist. I thought

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Speaker 1: that is a good start to the month. Also, as

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Speaker 1: a white woman, it is not for me to encroach

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Speaker 1: in spaces where I do not belong. So if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for Black history by a black historian redacted history

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Speaker 1: as a fab podcast, you should listen to He's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Okay that being said, As a white woman who is

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Speaker 1: entering her fuck about and find out I can bellow

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Speaker 1: and scream about the terrible actions performed by other white people,

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Speaker 1: I will be out carroning the Karens and I hope

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Speaker 1: you're here for it. So naturally, with the current political

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Speaker 1: climate going on and the man who went from space

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Speaker 1: race to space racist super quick to anyone not paying attention,

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Speaker 1: I thought, why not go back into this history a

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Speaker 1: wee bit and maybe have a weight discussion and tell

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Speaker 1: be forgiven for assuming that our story would start in

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Speaker 1: South Africa, because that's all we hear you know family

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Speaker 1: from South Africa, but our story actually starts in a

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Speaker 1: log cabin in Minnesota. On the twenty fifth of November

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Speaker 1: nineteen o two. Elon Musk's maternal grandfather, Joshua and Norman Haldman,

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Speaker 1: was born in a log cabin in Peacot Lake, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: He was the only son of John Elon Haldeman that's

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Speaker 1: where the Elon name comes from, and Almida May Haldeman.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Joshua, when he was only two years old,

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Speaker 1: his father John was diagnosed with diabetes, which at the

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Speaker 1: insulin was not an option. I don't even think it

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Speaker 1: became like a fully fledged diabetic treatment until like the

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Speaker 1: that another time. Back to this sidebar, people often died

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Speaker 1: has many fingers, many pies. She's a chiropractice. She sets

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Speaker 1: in later interviews in Like Day Traveler and things like that,

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Speaker 1: And so he travels to Davenport, Iowa, where he travels

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Speaker 1: to get extreme chiropractic treatment for his eyes. So they

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Speaker 1: it your first lads. Joshua Haldman reminds me of the

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Speaker 1: want one that is devoid of color. It's gray like machines,

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00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: like good guys kill. That's the way to do it. So, yeah,

425
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: they're all in gray uniforms and they're saluting each other

426
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: at meetings in what some have referred to as not

427
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: dissimilar to certain fascist salutes like brown shirts and black

428
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: shirts and the like, just putting it out there anywhow

429
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: they're doing that. They're wearing these gray hacking uniforms so depressing,

430
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: and they are it's suggested, it's suggested by Scott that

431
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: they refer to themselves by number and not by name,

432
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: which makes me wonder if anybody kind of stood up

433
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of it and was just like, I

434
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: am not a number, I am a free man. For

435
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: those of you who get that reference, you're well, I

436
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: like old things, so you know, the numbers, not names.

437
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: The weird matching outfits. The saluting people are noticing, but

438
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: they're not getting too mad about it because it's Canada

439
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: and they weren't too worried about that. But by nineteen forty,

440
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: World War two has been going on for about a year.

441
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: Technocracy Ink is banned in Canada, and not because it's

442
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: aligned with Nazis or Nazi ideology or anything akin to that.

443
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: It's because it was politically opposed to the Second World War,

444
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: or i should say Canada's involvement in the Second World War.

445
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: So effectively, Technocracy Ink was anti war because they believed

446
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: that war was a waste of energy and resources. Which

447
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: here's the thing. They're not wrong, like war is a

448
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: waste of energy and resources. But unfortunately, when those injustices

449
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: happening across the world, and some motherfucker thinks it's perfectly

450
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: acceptable to try and annihilate another group of people for

451
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: no fucking reason other than their own bigotry. Yeah, get up,

452
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: do shit, solve the problem. You want a fucking utopia,

453
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: then you have to create the utopia. You cannot let

454
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: the bad people win. Sidebar. I'm gonna take a moment

455
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: to tell you about a movie called Equilibrium starring Sean Bean.

456
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, he dies. That's why I don't trust any

457
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: movie Sean Bean's and Cuma watching him suspiciously every single time.

458
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: So the movie is called Equilibrium, I'm fairly certain. And

459
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: it's a society where emotion has been removed. It is

460
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: a crime to feel emotion, and so everybody is taking

461
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: these pills to stop themselves from feeling things right, and

462
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: so everybody goes about their day without feeling any emotion.

463
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: So you can't enjoy poetry or art or anything like that.

464
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: And people are not taking the meds and our feeling emotions,

465
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: and it's a whole thing, but it reminds me kind

466
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: of of this whole concept of technocracy because they're trying

467
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: to remove the human element from humanity, which is bad.

468
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: It's just a shitty idea. So roll back to Technocracy

469
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: Incia and they are anti war. They're anti politics. Allegedly,

470
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: they're like not what in Canada has be involved in

471
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: a world war. They don't like Nazis, which is good

472
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: because nobody should like Nazis. I feel like this is

473
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: something I should not have to explain to you. But

474
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: if you hold Nazis in high regard, you've got a

475
00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: fucking problem. You need therapy because you are wrong. You

476
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: are just objectively wrong as a person. Okay. No, they

477
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: don't like the Nazi Party because they're political and because

478
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: they started a war, which wastes resources. That's why they

479
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: don't like them, because they wasted energy and resources. They

480
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: don't like any form of communism or socialism specifically because

481
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: they don't believe that is the best way to distribute resources,

482
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: because it should be divvied out by engineers. They don't

483
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: like capitalism because it's a waste of energy and resources.

484
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: And so because they release a statement saying that they

485
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: are anti war, Technocracy inc Is banned in Canada and

486
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: on the eighth of October nineteen forty Joshua Haldeman is

487
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: actually arrested by Mounties the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in

488
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: charged with belonging to an illegal organization on the Canadian

489
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Defense Act. Why because he was out printing Technocracy ink flyers.

490
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: He had paid for it to be printed in a

491
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: local newspaper. Like I feel like this is an actual

492
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: literal definition of a paper trail, Like you left an

493
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: actual paper trail, Joshua, Oh my goodness, I didn't even

494
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: tell you his number. So, Joshua Norman Haldeman's number was

495
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: one zero four five zero dash one. In the way

496
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: that they came up with these numbers, it was like

497
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: the longitude and laritude of the place in which you

498
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: were residing. So because he was in Regina, again the location,

499
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: not the person, that was his number. And Joshua, a

500
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: man who clearly loved to hear his own thoughts, wrote

501
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: in the Technocracy Inc. Magazine predicting an upcoming smash up

502
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: of society. So I'm going to do a way transatlantic

503
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: accent for you all. M M. Technocracy Inc. Is preparing

504
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: for a new social order that is to come. If

505
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: you are a technocraid, are you doing all that you

506
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: can to extend the organization and discipline yourself to mar

507
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: it subjectives, and like before the ban actually comes into play,

508
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: Howard Scott is out there telling everyboday that technocracy ink

509
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: is so powerful and so influential that it will affect

510
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: the government's decisions to be involved in the Second World War.

511
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: So Joshua tries to travel, like from Canada down to

512
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: the US to Minnesota, to Minnesota, eh to do like

513
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: a speech regarding technocracy inc. But he stopped at the

514
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: border and they're like no, no, thank you, You're not allowed.

515
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: So you're back to Joshua being arrested by mounties. So

516
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: he put an ad in the paper. He had his

517
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: paper trail and like twelve buildings end up being raided

518
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: by mounties, including his. He gets arrested and then is charged,

519
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: and he is charged with distributing and publishing documents likely

520
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: or intended to interfere with the efficient prosecution of the

521
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: war and likely to cause disaffection to his majesty. Joshua

522
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: was convicted on all counts, and so he either had

523
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: to pay a fine of one hundred dollars plus court

524
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: costs or spend two months in jail. So he's convicted

525
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty. The following year, Joshua decides it's time

526
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: to leave Technocracy Ink. You say, the man had become

527
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: disillusioned with the organization and the utopia it was supposed

528
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: to create, and so he establishes his own party, Total

529
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: War in Defense by nineteen forty three. So like before

530
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: the end of the war, even Canada ends up removing

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00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: the ban from Technocracy Ink, like they really it's not

532
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: anti war, or they accept it's not anti war, or

533
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: that they don't have the power to do what they

534
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: say they're going to do, like to create dissent. For

535
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they unban it. But at this point he

536
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: is already hitched to another wagon. Consistency, it seems, is

537
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: not Joshua Norman Haldeman's strong point. I think that might

538
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: be genetic, you know. AnyWho, between him starting his new party,

539
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: Total War in Defense and Technocracy Ink being like unbanned,

540
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: he falls in love. See, for whatever reason, he decides

541
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: to take up dance lessons. Maybe he was just craving

542
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: social interaction, who's to say, But he takes up dance

543
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: lessons and he falls in love with his dance teacher,

544
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: Winnifred Josephine Fletcher, who unsurprisingly goes by Winnie as opposed

545
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: to Winnifred. So he and Winnie get married in nineteen

546
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: forty two. So forty one he sets up his party,

547
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: forty two he gets married. Forty three Technocracy inc On banned.

548
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: And when he gives birth to a set of twins,

549
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: May and k I shit you not. They named their

550
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: children May and Kay and May yes is Elon Musk's mother.

551
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: The Holdomans actually going to have two more children, so

552
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: they have four in total, and just to remind Joselle,

553
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: Joshua also has another kid from his first wife, who

554
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: he has no connection to. Again, weird how that happens.

555
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: So he's got a wife, two kids, and he's a

556
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: fairly big member of the DCCC, which is the Dominion

557
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: Council of Canadian Cairo practice. So here's a funny story. Actually,

558
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: because we're still during the war, right in the DCCC,

559
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: they have a meeting with the Canadian Army because they're like, hey,

560
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: how about we send chiropractors off to war like to

561
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: treat soldiers, And the Minister of Defense is like, it's

562
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: okay for them to enlist as orderlies. But they're not

563
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: allowed to enlist as doctors because he doesn't see them

564
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: as doctors. And then this goes like down the chain

565
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: to the head of the Canadian Army Medical Corps and

566
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: they're just like, no, you're you're not allowed to be

567
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: non combatants. So like, if you come here, you have

568
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: to actively fight in the war, not just be cracking

569
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: backs in a tent. Like, but the chiropractors want to

570
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: be treated as doctors, and they use the Soviet Union

571
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: in who are like the Allies. They're saying, like they

572
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: treat chiropractors and doctors equally, you should do it too.

573
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: Needless to say, this doesn't pan out for anybody in

574
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: Joshua sort of between forty three and forty four he

575
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: founds a new political party to align with the Social

576
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: Credit Party of Canada, and this all comes from an

577
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: idea by a Scottish man called Cloveld Hugh Douglas, and

578
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: so he had this concept of social credit. So like

579
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: Joshua was like super into Howard Scott, who had you know,

580
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: was a big bullshitter, and then goes to Clifford who Douglas,

581
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: who was also a bullshitter, who made up a bunch

582
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: of stuff of his past as well, Like he said

583
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: he was the chief engineer of the British Westinghouse Company

584
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: in India, but like there's no information, there's no record

585
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: of his existence there whatsoever. He's just like pulled it

586
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: out of a hat, like, Yep, no, this is the

587
00:40:53,600 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: British westing House Company. Yeah, where we're where we got

588
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: the colonies India, Yep, that's where they are. Yeah, but

589
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: there's like no record of him doing anything. So this

590
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: Social Credit Party, which is Douglas's idea, he believed that

591
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: the financial system, so capitalism effectively, that there was a

592
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: natural imbalance in it. When I tell you the amount

593
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: of jargon I had to dig through to get to

594
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: this core concept. Basically, workers don't earn enough money if

595
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: they cannot consume the goods they produce. Like if you

596
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: made boots, you should be able to afford the boots,

597
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: If you made bread, you had to be able to

598
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: afford the bread, et cetera, et cetera. And that in

599
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: social credit, in order to bridge that gap, the government

600
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: should provide sort of a stipend like sort of like

601
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: a universal basic income that everyone should have in order

602
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: to survive. And Douglas felt that social credit should exist

603
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: within a political sets, but it wasn't the political system itself.

604
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: This is actually a great segue for me to talk

605
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: about Marxism. So Marxism does not exist in a vacuum.

606
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: Marxism exists within capitalism because, as far as Marx was concerned,

607
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: the polarity, the distance between poor and rich was too wide,

608
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: and that these should be closer, like nobody should be

609
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: mega rich and nobody should be poor. Basically, you know,

610
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: no billionails right, effectively billionaires didn't exist then, but also no,

611
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 1: so the gap between rich and pool should be closer, right,

612
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: so that nobody's living in poverty and nobody's buying twelve

613
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: fucking super yachts. Release the orcas. Anyway, it exists within capitalism.

614
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: That's how Marxism works. So social credit should exist within

615
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: some kind of system. However, Douglas believed that it was

616
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: incompatible with democracy, and it was also supposed to be

617
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: part of like this Christian altruism system. No, I'm not

618
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: here to trash anybody's economic system, except I absolutely am,

619
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: because it's fucking laughable. So like the idea of getting

620
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: like a boost to your income makes perfect sense, like

621
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: that in itself. I don't really have too much of

622
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: an issue with but he wanted like goods to be

623
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: worthless and the government to pay more. And but like

624
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: this is a time where we're talking about like bread.

625
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: You know, bread should be much cheaper, like corang should

626
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: be much cheaper. Yeah, okay, co, but you still have

627
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: to pay farmers. Like it was a whole it's a

628
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: whole weird thing with like some very strong Christian roots

629
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: and boil boy, does Joshy love this? And what do

630
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: you know? He eventually becomes a provincial leader of the

631
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: Social Credit Party. There must be more than this provincial life,

632
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: which there is because he goes on and becomes the

633
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: party's national chairman. And for a party that believes in

634
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: having a basic universal income, they're not really a big

635
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: fan of equality or equity, Like they're so anti communists,

636
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: like no sharing and caring hair pals, Like they're not

637
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: into that at all. And in case you're wondering, yes,

638
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: it does get worse because it's not only anti communists,

639
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 1: but it's also anti Semitic because it bloody hates banks right,

640
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: which on its own again you're thinking that's fine, people

641
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: can hate banks, bankers or wankers quite a lot of

642
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: the time. But the reason that they were so staunchly

643
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: anti bank was mainly because Jewish people worked in the banks,

644
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: because the banks were Jewish. That's it. It's based specifically

645
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: on that. And J. N. Haldeman has to like tell

646
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: members not to be too overtly anti Semitic, like, don't

647
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: do too many dog whistles, guys, because the press is

648
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: starting to notice and we don't need the bad publicity.

649
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: Their aggressively anti Jewish movement did not go unnoticed, like

650
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: the Canadian Jewish Congress were well aware of them, like

651
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: they were genuinely concerned by the actions of this party,

652
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: and like the Social Credit Party I think in Canada's

653
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: entire history, is like the most anti Semitic party that

654
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: has ever existed. And the Socreds have like a bunch

655
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: of newspapers and shit, and in one of them they

656
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: actually print this bollocks. It is propaganda. It's a fake

657
00:45:53,719 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: Zionist like peace. It is the protocols of the is

658
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: a zion It is pure conspiracy fodder, right, And when

659
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: he is called on it, Joshua says that the plan

660
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: is outlined in this protocols has been rapidly unfolding in

661
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: a period of observation of this generation. Effectively, the soul

662
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: Creds made up this fake text, right, this fake document

663
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: saying that Jewish people were part of a secret society

664
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: that we're planning to take over the world. Right, it's

665
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: absolute fucking nonsense. Right. But Joshua was like, this is

666
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: clearly happening and says, and I quote this evidence indicates

667
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: that anti Semitism is a whopon of international finance and

668
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: socialism to introduce totalitarianism. He's trying to say that people

669
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: accusing him of being anti Semitic is a way to

670
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: create dictatorships. That's what he's saying. That's what as fucking

671
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 1: Bonker's pal, you need to either take more or less

672
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: of your medication. I'm not sure which. It's such a fake.

673
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: It is such a complete fake that like a Swiss

674
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: court ends up dealing with it and they're like this

675
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: is officially bollocks, Like this is the fakest fake that

676
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: of effecd Like that's like someone trying to paint the

677
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: Mona Lisa. But it looks like what that wee lady

678
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: did when she tried to repaint Jesus and made him

679
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: look like a monkey like that. And this is in

680
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven, this is two years after the end

681
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: of World War Two, where literally millions of Jewish people

682
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: was slaughtered like animals. And he's trying to say that

683
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: there's a secret world word I'll try to take over,

684
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: and like, here's the thing. We're going to talk about

685
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: Jewish people in banks for a quick way second. So

686
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: the reason that Jewish people are typically a sonociated with

687
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: money and money lenders in banking is because of discrimination

688
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: throughout history. And that's where they ended up because that

689
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: was the only positions that were available to them, like

690
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: for a long time, unless they were working within their

691
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: own communities. Those were the ways that they made money.

692
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: It's kind of like that whole trope of gay men

693
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: becoming hairdressers, right, and it's an old one, and it

694
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: basically went that heterosexual men do not work in hair salons.

695
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: Homosexual men work in hair salons, and so what would

696
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: happen is outwardly, gay men would get jobs and hair

697
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: salons because they knew they'd get a job as a

698
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: hairdresser or whatever, because that was a safe space for them.

699
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: Like stereotypes happen because society usually forces it to be

700
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: that way. Like that was the example my old lecturer

701
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: gave us on our very first week in sociology, because

702
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: like when you first start, they try and deconstruct your

703
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: biases and things like that, and so it sort of

704
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: talked about things like that and how stereotypes exist and

705
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: how to challenge those stereotypes and the inherent bias that

706
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: we have within us, so things like that. So Jewish

707
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: people became money lenders because that was the employment that

708
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: was available to them, and Joshua Norman Haldeman here is

709
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: convinced that Jewish people were controlling all the banks and

710
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: therefore the governments and everything in between, and he wanted

711
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: Jewish people to join the Social Credit Party of Canada

712
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: because Social Credit is pro Christian and pro Canadian. It

713
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: is nineteen forty eight. J. N. Haldeman is married, he's

714
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: got four kids. He's part of a political party with

715
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: some dodgy origins and current stuff going on, and his

716
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: chiropractice business is doing well, and he also finds his

717
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: new passion in life and he never gets what it is. Flying.

718
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: He obtains his pilot's license, which just makes things much

719
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: easier for him. So before he'd be driving like six

720
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: hours to get from like one practice to the other practice,

721
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: or he was trying to go to one rally i

722
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: mean meeting, and you'd be going from A to B.

723
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: And now you could just fly, and so he was

724
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: zooming across the airways. My favorite part about the political

725
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: side of this is the fact that J. N. Haldeman

726
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: managed to lose every single election he ever stood in,

727
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Like he never won once, he didn't even get close.

728
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: He just failed consistently. I mean, this is a definition

729
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: of a man who kept failing upwards, you know. But yeah,

730
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: he's using the plane to fly from like practice to practice,

731
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: he's doing political stuff. He's taking his family on trips,

732
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: and he even goes to like the Palmer Lyceum down

733
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: in Davenport, Iowa, where he says his best day B. J. Palmer,

734
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: which is where they're having this big chiropractic event, and

735
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: so he goes down to it. It's like a conference

736
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: and he does this big speech about personal freedom. WHOA.

737
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: He's there with his wife and May and Kay the

738
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: Flying Twins, like they actually get named the Flying Twins

739
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: because they're like, look at these babies on a plane

740
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: or like these toddlers on a plane. It's like the

741
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: old timey version of going viral, Like it was like, wow,

742
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: look at these babies on a plane. So it becomes

743
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: like a big thing and it ends up on like

744
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: the TV and stuff. But back in Canada, things were

745
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: not going super great for Jen. See he was losing

746
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: every election and also was convinced that communists were everywhere.

747
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: He ends up getting absolutely like balled at by a

748
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: group of like housewives in Regina and Canada because he

749
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: tells them they're like affront for the Communist party, like

750
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: Canadian housewives, like you're technically communists? What may what? So, like,

751
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: he tries to gather sort of proper funding for the

752
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: soul Creds, but he just can't do it, possibly because

753
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: he's pissed off all the bloody bankers. So by nineteen

754
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: fifty he's like, oh, the government's out to get me.

755
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: Everybody hates me. And instead of moving to I don't know, America,

756
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: like United States, of which is just across the border.

757
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 1: I mean he loves Minnesota. Eh, clearly he's born there,

758
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: Like he he could easily move to the United States,

759
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Like he could just move there, him and his family

760
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: couldn't move them all. He chooses not to do that

761
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: and instead decides nineteen fifty time to move to South Africa.

762
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: Like it was a surprise for most people that he

763
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: decided to upsticks and move with may Ky and Whennie

764
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: like down to South Africa, because it, for a lot

765
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: of people just seemed to come out of nowhere. But

766
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: he says that he was inspired to move there by

767
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: an Anglican minister from South Africa that he met at

768
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: a Toronto trade fail, the place that Anglican ministers are

769
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: known to frequent. And when he moves there with may Ky,

770
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: Whinnie and the whole kit and Kaboul, like the apartheid

771
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: regime is only really being like established, Like it wasn't

772
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: running for like this entire time. It wasn't fully integrated.

773
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: But he came just at the right time for him.

774
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: And like in South Africa, because most people were clean shaven,

775
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: they thought he was a bit weird because he had

776
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: a beard and it's like reddish brown. That being said,

777
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: I've never met a man who didn't have a bit

778
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: of a in his beld, Like it just seems to

779
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: be a thing anywhow not relevant, but I just noticed

780
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: it like you'll start noticing it to you. But like

781
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: does some man have read in his beild? Everyone does.

782
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: So their life in South Africa did not start off

783
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: in the most luxurious of ways because like he sells everything,

784
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: gets rid of everything, grabs the wife and the four kids,

785
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: gets on a boat and travels for like a month

786
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: to get to South Africa. And the entire journey he

787
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: is just chucking buckets. He has terrible seasickness. He is

788
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: not doing well, and here arrives in South Africa without

789
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: knowing anybody, without having any sort of plan, like he

790
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything set up, like nothing, Like they arrive

791
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: and they have to sleep on a beach because he

792
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: hasn't organized anything, Like they have to stay on the beach.

793
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: Will they build a bloody plane? Like it was a

794
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: plane kit, like you could buy a plane kit back then.

795
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like making it out of bicycle parts

796
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: and an old engine like Lilian Bland. No, he was

797
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: building it from a kit. And so then they had

798
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: the plane and he flew across trying to find somewhere

799
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: to be. This is the wildest part, Like this is

800
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: a thing crazy men do. This is midlife crisis nonsense

801
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: right here. Oh, just sell up your entire life, make

802
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: your family travel listening to your puke for a month,

803
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: make them live on a beach. Will you build a

804
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: plane so you can figure out your next step? And

805
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: the man is we know, Love's flying. So he's flying

806
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: all over South Africa trying to find somewhere to go.

807
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: And his own family say that he wanted to do

808
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: like adventuring because he was like an adventure junkie and

809
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: love traveling around like he is flying his plane, so

810
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: he's trying to find someone to live. Yeah, but he

811
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: is also trying to find the lost city of the

812
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: Kalahari Desert. And he would do it every summer. Every

813
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: summer he'd get in his plane and he'd be like,

814
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find this lost city. I'm a white man,

815
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna do it, like sure, buddy, sure. Like

816
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: he loved flying about so much. He'd be in South Africa.

817
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: He'd been up in Rhodesia. So Rhodesia is like you

818
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: think apartheid was bad, Rhodesia is a proper white supremacist

819
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: state and people fucking hated it, like even the British

820
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: Empire thought they were too racist the British Empire, like

821
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: it was awful and it's just shitty. But anyway, South Africa.

822
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: So when he finally settles down in Pretoria, he hints

823
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: up writing an essay back to one of the old

824
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: newspapers in Canada, basically stating like how amazing life is

825
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: in apartheid South Africa. And I'm gonna I'm gonna do

826
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: the voice again because I'm gonna read you almost verbatim.

827
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say some words. We have two Native

828
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: and word garden boys in the summer and one in

829
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: the winter, and a Native girl. We give them food

830
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: and a lot of their clothing and pay them from

831
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: ten dollars to fifteen dollars a month. The law requires

832
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: that we supply them with separate furnished rooms with nine

833
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: inch brick walls, private toilet and shower. In fact, better

834
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: living accommodations than I enjoyed for most of my life

835
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: in Canada. It is impossible to make a Native work hard.

836
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: It takes three Natives to do the work of one

837
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 1: white man, and white people here work half as hard

838
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: as Canadians. Don't worry, it gets worse. Black labor in

839
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: South Africa industry is found to be the most expensive

840
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: labor in the world. The males among the blacks on

841
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: their reservations do not work at all, and the women

842
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: may work an hour or two so on the reservations.

843
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: Their standard of living is not very high, but they

844
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: are happy and contented with it unless straight up and

845
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: stirring them up is an almost impossible job. In spite

846
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: of the best efforts of the communists, they've had no success.

847
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: Any talk of a native uprising in Africa is purely

848
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: Communist wishful thinking or propaganda. There was no place in

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00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: the world where the natives are treated better nor receive

850
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: higher wages than here. Strict law enforcement is necessary to

851
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: prevent the natives from surrounding territories from flocking here. He's

852
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: basically saying that everything's great, the working conditions are great,

853
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: he pays everyone so much money, like everybody is doing amazing,

854
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: and that they have to stop people from other African

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00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: countries coming to South Africa because native indigenous people of

856
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: South Africa are having too good a life and as such,

857
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: other people are flocking there and they have to stop it,

858
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: and that very strict laws as part of this apartheid

859
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: regime are necessary to keep order, and that everyone is

860
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: too lazy to revolt. Like that's that's what he goes

861
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: on to say. A native may be able to read

862
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: and write in four languages and have no understanding of them,

863
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: or maybe he just understands what he wants to understand.

864
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: Some are quite clever in a routine job, but the

865
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: best of them cannot assume responsibility and will abuse authority.

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00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: The present government of South Africa knows how to handle

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: the native question. They are endeavoring to make the native

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00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: as independent and self supporting as possible. The Communists and

869
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 1: their fellow travelers continually misrepresents the government's efforts. See Josh boy,

870
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: he always felt like he was hot done by that

871
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: he had a tough life. Like here's the thing, living

872
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: through the Great Depression. Granted, I will give you that

873
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: that sucks, right, but you have every opportunity to make

874
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: a good life for yourself if you just loved it

875
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: and enjoyed it. But instead you wanted to remove the

876
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: rights of other people. Because apparently, unless he can physically

877
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: see someone being oppressed in front of him, then he

878
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: must be the one being oppressed, and he is trying

879
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: to convince more Canadians to move to South Africa. He's

880
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: trying to get a greater white population there. He's like,

881
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: everything's better here and the natives are stupid and we're

882
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: so much better than them. It's not just racism, it's

883
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: eugenics as well. It's like this whole fucking thing. And

884
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: he's trying to convince racists to move to an area

885
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: and make it even more racist, like Elon Musk's racist

886
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: grandfather is trying to do that. He's like, come, let's

887
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: treat these people as if they're not human. But look

888
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: how well I'm treating them. They have the ability to

889
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: work for me, even though they're so stupid they can

890
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: only just about do their jobs. Like what the actual fuck, Joshua.

891
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: He's also, by the way, getting super tight with the

892
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: South African government because he's doing it's Cairo practiced of

893
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: He's clack in the backs of South African leaders, government officials, presidents,

894
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: the whole shaban and like even his office, like his

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01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: chiropractor practice, like the governor's mansion was like I think

896
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: it overlooked it even it was like fairly close. And

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: his business builds for like the next ten years and

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01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: then in nineteen sixty the Prime Minister comes to visit,

899
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: like the British Prime Minister Harold McMillan is there and

900
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: he's like, you're being a bit racist. Like the British

901
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: Prime Minister has been like us a bit much, Lads,

902
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: I think you might be crossing a bout of a line.

903
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when Isabella and Ferdinand of Portugal,

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01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: who were like, okay, Christopher Columbus, could you maybe not

905
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: subjects of Portugal should not be slaves? Christopher Columbus, Okay, okay,

906
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: Like it's got that kind of vibe to it. It's

907
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: like to that pal that's not appropriate. And in retaliation,

908
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: Jane Haldeman writes a book, The International Conspiracy to establish

909
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: a World Dictatorship and the Menace to South Africa, like

910
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: he does write another book, which is The International Conspiracy

911
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: and Health Like the dude loves of conspiracy and the

912
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: conspiracies all revolve around Jewish people in socialists have a

913
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: secret society that is trying to take over the world,

914
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't be surprised if he was also the

915
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: person who came up with the Lizard people, like I

916
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: would not be surprised. So he thinks Jews and socialists

917
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: are trying to rule the world and they're doing it

918
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: through control of health, because remember socialists want everyone to

919
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: have like social health care, universal health care, medicine, and

920
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: Jewish people are doctors. And so he's like, oh, they're

921
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: trying to get us with medicine and fluoride in the

922
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: water in vaccines. Ah, Like nobody's putting a five G

923
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: chip in your brain. Pow, Like it's not happening. Like

924
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: if you walk around with a phone, people can track you.

925
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: Like it's it's not the algorithm knows. Buddy. We're gonna

926
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: give you another one of the quotes. Okay, the conspiracy

927
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: feels like any medical intervention, so long as it is

928
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: in mass is a desirable procedure. Above all, promoters of

929
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: the world government have always been behind mex vaccination programs.

930
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: Like he was worried that this Jewish socialist medical secret conspiracy.

931
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: We're trying to control the world through vaccinations, which kind

932
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: of explains why Muskie Boy himself when absolutely feral during

933
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: COVID Like, here's the thing I want to make clear

934
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: to you, they tested the COVID vaccine. I get my

935
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: boostoos like every opportunity I get because I don't want

936
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: to be responsible for the deaths of other people. You know,

937
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have to explain to you that we should

938
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: care about other people. And the whole thing about vaccinations

939
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: is we know what's in them because they list the ingredients,

940
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: and we know how we respond to them because of

941
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: the immuno response we have, which is why if you

942
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: get a vaccine, a lot of the time, after you

943
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: get a jab, you'll get a fever. Like I react

944
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: bloody horribly to all my jabs. I am sick for

945
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: full twenty four hours, sometimes more. I have fevers because

946
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: I have some kind of autoimmune condition that my doctors

947
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: haven't figured out yet. But I react really badly. But

948
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: what's a day or two of just shitness than you know,

949
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: the death of somebody on chemo, Like I don't want

950
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: that on my fucking hands, like it, neither should you.

951
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: We know the effect of the vaccine because we have

952
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: an immuno response. Naturally, there's going to be some people

953
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: that are going to have a worse reaction and some

954
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: people will have a better reaction. That's how things work.

955
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm on birth control, you know, One of the

956
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: side effects for birth control is death death. Another one

957
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: is cancer or blood clots. Like, none of these are good,

958
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: and yet I keep doing it. Okay, if I'm willing

959
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: to go through that. If you expect anybody to go

960
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: on birth control and you're not willing to get vaccinated,

961
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: you don't deserve to have sex. I'm gonna say that now, Okay,

962
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: AnyWho rant over back to Joshua Norman Haldeman Elon Musks,

963
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: Rasi's grandfather living in South Africa with his wife Winnie

964
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: and their group of children. So he's there, he's doing

965
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: his chiropractice stuff. He's and they're also putting out like

966
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 1: bulletins every month in the chiropractic office. And so you've

967
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: got way May Young May of May and Kay. The

968
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: Flying Twins fame Elon Musk's mother. She would like help

969
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: write a bunch of the stuff. And the twins would

970
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: like do shit about the office like they would do

971
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: reception work. And I think from when they were like twelve.

972
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: It started when they're twelve and they just kind of

973
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: went up from there. Anyway, forget about the Flying Twins

974
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: for a week. Second, we're going to roll back to

975
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty. You've got Heward McMillan who's like, I don't

976
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: think that's a good idea, old chap. I think you're

977
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: being away bit far about the whole concept of apartheid,

978
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: because he sent us one of the people to kind

979
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: of have away investigation because there was a protest of

980
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: indigenous South Africans, of black South Africans were protesting the

981
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: cruelty or the latest cruelty of the apartheid regime, and

982
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: in a move that surprise is absolutely no one, they

983
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: opened fire on the protesters. Sixty nine Black South Africans

984
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: were killed, over one hundred and eighty more were wounded,

985
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: and unsurprisingly, the law enforcement and the government justified the

986
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: slaughtering of innocent humans, stating that the native mentality does

987
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,959
Speaker 1: not allow them to gather for peaceful demonstration. For them

988
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: to gather means violence. This was known as the Sharp

989
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: Film massacre, and in March nineteen sixty the United Nations

990
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: passed Resolution one three four, which was the first official

991
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: condemnation of apartheid. And it was like the start of

992
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it diplomatic isolation. Like you had McMillan

993
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: been like, okay, now, this is definitely too much, Like

994
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: you can't just shoot people. This isn't the old days

995
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: of the Empire. You can't just do that. And so

996
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: like this led to like a bit of a schism,

997
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: and so this led to himself Haldeman producing the book,

998
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: like I want to add as well, it was self published,

999
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: like a publisher didn't do it for him. He self

1000
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: published this book, The International Conspiracy to establish a World

1001
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: Dictatorship and the Menace to South Africa. This book is

1002
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: forty two pages long, and let me tell you it

1003
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: is forty two pages too many. Like in this book

1004
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: that he chose to write and then publish, he actually

1005
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: goes on about other black people from other nations are

1006
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: going to try and invade South Africa because of the

1007
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: Sharp film massacre, and it's like you think they want

1008
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: to put themselves in front of the fire and squat,

1009
01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: like you think that's situation. And he also blames like

1010
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: the world's media for calling attention to it because he

1011
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: says it's not like a big deal because he doesn't think,

1012
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: you know, the slaughter, the murder of sixty nine people

1013
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: and the wounding of like one hundred and eighty others

1014
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 1: is acceptable like he thinks that's fine. Like he refuses

1015
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: us to call it a massacre. He calls it a riot,

1016
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: and he says it happened on purpose to affect the

1017
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: South African stock market. Like the man is coco bananas. Okay,

1018
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: this is this is not a healthy person who is

1019
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: coming up with these ideas. And like at the very

1020
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: end of his book, like he gives reading recommendations and

1021
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: it's just to a bunch of anti Semitic like newspapers

1022
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: and journals, like it's just a trover them. And that's

1023
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 1: the type of tripe he's were gurgitating for the rest

1024
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: of his life. But anyway, when he's in his late sixties,

1025
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one, his grandson, Elon Musk is born

1026
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: to May and Eryl Musk, and three years later, in

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01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, Jan Haldeman. He's in his plane, he's

1028
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: got a passenger and he's flying one day and as

1029
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: he's trying to get to the ground, he's trying to

1030
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: do like a practice landing, the wheels get caught in

1031
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: a telephone wire and it basically just sling shots him

1032
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: to the ground like the entire plane and he is killed.

1033
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: I believe instantly he just like an old timey Acme Cutton.

1034
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: He just splats right on the ground where that he

1035
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,879
Speaker 1: didn't see those telephone wires, considering how fantastic his eyesight

1036
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: was from you know, all of that chiropractic treatment. AnyWho

1037
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: So ends the story of Joshua Norman Haldeman, a man

1038
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: who had a fondness for men with dodgy credentials and

1039
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: backstories and big ideas on how to upton society, who

1040
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: was convinced that socialists and Jewish people were working together

1041
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: as puppet masters to destroy civilization and rule the world,

1042
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: that any disease could be cured by a good chiropracta

1043
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: in the vaccines will just affront to create dictatorships, and

1044
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: that democracy was the root of all evil. Thank you

1045
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,839
Speaker 1: all for listening to me tell you about Elon Musk's

1046
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: incredibly racist grandfather, Joshua Norman Haldman. If you liked my

1047
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: retelling of this story, feel free to written review five starts.

1048
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: I have a strange feeling that my reviews are going

1049
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: to suddenly bomb for no reason whatsoever, So if you

1050
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: could review, that would be super. If you want to

1051
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: donate the PayPal, feel free to do so if you

1052
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: want to give from the wish list or send me something,

1053
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: fan mail whatever to my care of address. It's on

1054
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: the website and should be down below now now that

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Speaker 1: I think about it. Anyway, you can follow me on

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Speaker 1: all of the socials, and don't forget tickets are available

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Speaker 1: for live shows and more will be announced in the

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Speaker 1: coming weeks. Okay, so pretty prettypare time for recommendation. It's

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Speaker 1: recommendation time. So for reading, I'm going to suggest to

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Speaker 1: be unsettled by Atana mathis for watching Abbott Elementary, we

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Speaker 1: live in a hellscape right now and it is pure joy.

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Speaker 1: Watch it. It's fabulous. And for listening, you know what

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Speaker 1: country Carter Beyonce's album Go ahead, do you want to Grammy,

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Speaker 1: go listen to it. It's a good time. Thank you

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Speaker 1: all for listening, and I shall bid you farewell adios

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Speaker 1: au revoir if we is them my friends, Bye bye,