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Speaker 2: All right, Rory, we are back with a new episode,

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Speaker 2: and today we are joined by somebody who is a

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Speaker 2: legend in every sense of the word. His story is

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Speaker 2: very unique in how we became to notice artists. Been

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Speaker 2: a fan of his few years. We've been supporting him

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Speaker 2: on our platform for years. And Rory, you would be

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Speaker 2: proud of me because you say, I don't just reach

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Speaker 2: out to anybody I don't like. So I took it

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Speaker 2: upon myself last night and first time ever, first time

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Speaker 2: ever in history, and it worked. I was listening to

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Speaker 2: the new to his new album and I was like, damn,

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Speaker 2: this is dope. I was like, let me see when

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Speaker 2: he could come on the show and reached out. He

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Speaker 2: hit right back, say y'all pull up tomorrow. So he's

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Speaker 2: here to day with us. The legendary singer, rapper, songwriter

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Speaker 2: Louisville's finest Penn Griffy Bryson Tilor is.

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Speaker 1: With us today.

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Speaker 3: We don't have a lot of study audience, man, don't

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Speaker 3: worry about that. Just feel like that intro needs claps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely right now you feeling man amazing. First of all,

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Speaker 2: thank you for uh for responding to you know, just

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Speaker 2: cold d M you yesterday. Literally this is the real

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Speaker 2: story where Cold d M Yesterday was listening to the

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Speaker 2: project and I'm like, no, Brison going crazy. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he has a bad album in the discard,

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Speaker 2: he needs to come to the studio. We gotta keep

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Speaker 2: definitely do which one is my second.

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Speaker 1: Album for sure? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And there's a couple

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Speaker 2: He wasn't really feeling that one. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: wasn't really feeling that one, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But you know, for me, definitely not because you know,

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Speaker 2: I was not not not confident as much as as

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Speaker 2: I normally.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: But let's let's go to the beginning.

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Speaker 2: So your story with uh with don't and I think

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Speaker 2: I heard you say this before. You were still working

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Speaker 2: Still when Blowing Up taking off? What is that moment like,

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Speaker 2: like when you put a song out you're not really

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: Back in twenty fourteen when you upload the SoundCloud and

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Speaker 2: then everything just goes from there.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I always go back to that moment. I genuinely thought

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Speaker 1: because I like put it on SoundCloud and I know

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Speaker 1: somebody was like franking me. Every day I went to

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Speaker 1: ten thousand, a thousand more plays than I had before,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Earlier that morning, I was like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Never my song was just like fluctuating

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Speaker 1: This one had ten thou plays. I was just like, Yo,

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Speaker 4: But that that's so so don't take off.

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Speaker 3: That was when you didn't even want to upload. If

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Speaker 3: I remember you saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I had uploaded it once and I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ladies like it, like all, let me let me

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Speaker 4: upload this again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah for real, Like so I did, and it was

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Speaker 1: Uh, first people to reach out Timbling, My dog Rich

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Speaker 1: I remember my boy Rich had like snuck a picture

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Speaker 1: Huh you want? I got to hang up.

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Speaker 4: Timbler is on another line.

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Speaker 1: I'll call you back back. So then he was like, yo, quick,

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Speaker 2: So you driving from Philly to Louisville knowing that Timberland

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Speaker 2: just told you, yo, quit your job? Yeah, how fast

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Speaker 2: was you dripping? Because I know that got to be like,

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Speaker 2: I got to get to.

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Speaker 1: I was speeding like I was really trying to get back.

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Speaker 1: My cars fucked up. I didn't even care, but I

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Speaker 1: went to go tell him, say, yo, the Timberland wants

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Speaker 1: this ain't to like slight timling or none at all,

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Speaker 1: but like he wasn't really he wasn't really rocking with

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Speaker 3: They gave me every two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And then it was like oh and my

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Speaker 1: What you doing? Was sick because I, like my girls

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Speaker 1: I don't really want to. I ain't know that dude

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Speaker 1: so you kind of gotta take on this responsibility, bro,

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Speaker 1: Like what we're gonna do, Like, I'm just make music.

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Speaker 1: Let's figure it out. And I came up here to

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Speaker 1: it was like every week something was happening. Every week,

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Speaker 1: something amazing was happening. I just couldn't believe. It was

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Speaker 1: like it was like a wildfire. And that's like that's

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Speaker 1: what I You know, these labels and these people, they

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Speaker 1: always want you to get on social media and do

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Speaker 1: the dances and do everything to promote your music. But

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Speaker 1: I just genuinely believe that, like if the music is

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Speaker 2: That's one thing I did notice about you. You don't

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Speaker 1: I don't, man, lately, I've been kind of fucking around

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Speaker 4: And now I'm a I'm a fan of yours.

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Speaker 2: Worst album today to talk about the because when Don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be honest, I definitely didn't feel that way

435
00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,680
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't you know, I don't really,

436
00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,439
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not really in it to be like

437
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,560
Speaker 1: a superstar, you know. I'm being honest with you. Like

438
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,199
Speaker 1: I loved, you know, making people happy with music and

439
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,720
Speaker 1: giving them moments and stuff. But like as far as

440
00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,200
Speaker 1: like being on stage and and the most famous dude

441
00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,440
Speaker 1: and like everybody recognized me, I just don't care about

442
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,560
Speaker 1: that type of shit, you know. So like when people

443
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,080
Speaker 1: would say like, oh, he gonna put you on the

444
00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,919
Speaker 1: shelf and you're gonna be on the sweatshop, I was

445
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,359
Speaker 1: like cool.

446
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,000
Speaker 2: I was like, dog, I know how to write, yeah, yeah, yeah,

447
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,679
Speaker 2: I got.

448
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,159
Speaker 1: To write anything that he asked me to do and

449
00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,680
Speaker 1: be just as rich. I don't like if you could

450
00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,520
Speaker 1: take away all my fame right now nobody recognized me, Like,

451
00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,920
Speaker 1: I'll be so okay with that.

452
00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,600
Speaker 4: That's the cheat code.

453
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,719
Speaker 2: When you can still do what you love, make music

454
00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,800
Speaker 2: and nobody knows you, making a ship ton of money,

455
00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,840
Speaker 2: you can trave you can do what you want, and

456
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,200
Speaker 2: you can go anywhere nobody knows you. That's the cheat

457
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,680
Speaker 2: code in life. Like we all, well, some people want

458
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 2: to be famous, but most people want to be successful

459
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 2: and be able to live their life comfortably. But you

460
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 2: did you did. He did pull you out on the

461
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:47,960
Speaker 2: set at Wireless.

462
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,240
Speaker 1: YEP.

463
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 2: The response was crazy, what's the conversations like now with

464
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 2: Drake seeing where you are obviously with your career in

465
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 2: the music you put out, knowing at that moment happened

466
00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,159
Speaker 2: because he didn't hit back, Like, what are those conversations

467
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,239
Speaker 2: like behind the scenes, Like, damn, we could have made

468
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,840
Speaker 2: it happen, but you know, things went another way.

469
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,120
Speaker 1: We don't really talk to be honest, Like we had

470
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,919
Speaker 1: like a brief conversation, uh before Wireless. I like this

471
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 1: little little party whatever or some restaurant or whatever. But

472
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's a sad and it's a bunch of it.

473
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk to you off all that shit,

474
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 1: so I's like, you know whatever, But yeah, it was.

475
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 1: It was a good conversation. I was just telling him

476
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,680
Speaker 1: how I didn't really want to be an artist like that,

477
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,600
Speaker 1: and he just kind of tell me why you felt

478
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 1: like I should be an artist? And you know, I

479
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 1: didn't really get to go into detail of why I

480
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 1: really didn't want to be an artist, but.

481
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 4: Like, don't you want to be an artist?

482
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like I just be a better writer.

483
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 1: I just think I don't know, like I look at

484
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 1: songs like, you know, like orphans or something like, I

485
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 1: feel like that I just want them to go to

486
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 1: the best home. You know, maybe they shouldn't be here

487
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 1: at the orphanage with me, you know what I mean,

488
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 1: like not getting as much love because it's like I

489
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: don't promote my ship. You know, they just be sitting

490
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 1: and I just feel like the songs could be way

491
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 1: better with other artists, whether it be Chris Brown or

492
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: Drake or whoever, won't be to write for him, like

493
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: I would much rather do that.

494
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 4: That's interesting.

495
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can definitely see that perspective. So it was

496
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 3: kind of like a catch twenty two when you got

497
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 3: on Wild Thoughts, Yeah, because that record was fucking ever.

498
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 3: Obviously it's Rihanna too, so and I remember you saying

499
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 3: you didn't like your verse on that.

500
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: So here's what happened. So you need that more. It's

501
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 1: not there.

502
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 4: Don't know how dope is.

503
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,719
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, Here's what happened, right, So, Like I

504
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 1: got the song it was Party next Door. The version

505
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: that I had, I wasn't allowed to have the Rihanna

506
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: version understood. You know. It's like, you know, likes sensitive. Yeah,

507
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: so I was just like all right, cool. So I

508
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: wrote on the Party next Door version and I told

509
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 1: cal It. I was like, yo, shouldn't we pitch this up?

510
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because she's gonna be saying

511
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: another octave. I don't want to record my verse. So anyways,

512
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 1: that was what happened. Like I'm sure you heard the

513
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: story of Kala jumping over the gate or something like that,

514
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 1: trying to get maybe never heard that story. It was

515
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 1: a story that was going viral a couple of years ago,

516
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 1: like like trying to get the bog. He's like, yo,

517
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: he was telling the story actually himself, and I was

518
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: just like yo. It was just I was going through

519
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: a lot of ship at the moment. I love you,

520
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: cal It. Anyways, what happened was like the reason why

521
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: I was already going through all that ship with the

522
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, the the internet was grilling me for my

523
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 1: second album, all the ship trash trash trash, you fell

524
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: off all types of ship and yeah, but he fell

525
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: off and all that, and then you know, next thing,

526
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: you know, like being on the song Rihanna, that's like

527
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: a different level of start pot. That's like I was, Yeah,

528
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: I was used to getting hate at this point, like

529
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: from just random Twitter accounts and people whatever. But I

530
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: saw fifty verified motherfuckers doing the same ship to me

531
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 1: that day when that ship came out, it was like,

532
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: oh man, he should have been off this. I was like, Yo,

533
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: you verified bro before checked too, Like that was before

534
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: these are real people. I was like, Yo, what have

535
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: I done? I was so birds, But I.

536
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: Was like, I don't remember the backlash when that record

537
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: came out.

538
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: Nobody ever sees it with me somehow, but I see

539
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: that on our own bubble where we see our mentions

540
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: and see a lot of ship that other people don't see.

541
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: Remember everyone just loving that.

542
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: Record around that When I came in, I was like,

543
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that peaked that number two.

544
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 4: I thought that was a number one record for sure.

545
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was number two. That's crazy.

546
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 4: I thought that shit was number one. That you couldn't go,

547
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 4: you going.

548
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: Target, CVS, the airport, anywhere you went, that fucking record

549
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: was playing that. The de fact that I only peaked

550
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 2: that number two is like, I mean, that's not a knock,

551
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: that's not.

552
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 4: Incredible, but it definitely felt something.

553
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that definitely like a number one record, like, that's

554
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 2: that's absolutely crazy. So that Wireless because I love the

555
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: response that you got when you when you came out

556
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 2: on the set for you to say you don't really

557
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: see yourself as an artist, But then you go on

558
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: stage at a festival as big as Wireless and see

559
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 2: the reception of love that all of these people are

560
00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: giving you.

561
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 4: How do you fight that?

562
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: Like when you get off stage, you go back to

563
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: your room and you like, I'd rather just write, Like

564
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: there's people that obviously love you as an artist. How

565
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 2: do you deal with that back and forth of emotions

566
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 2: of do I really want to be an artist forward

567
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: facing people? I just want to write these songs and

568
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 2: work with these other artists and get these records out.

569
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: Like how do you deal with that? Because in talking

570
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: to you, I really feel like you really you know

571
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: that you're talented, but in your mind you probably feel

572
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: like I really don't want to do this, like I

573
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: rather just write these songs. So but to see that

574
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: love when you hit the stage and that reception.

575
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 4: How do you deal with that? How do you? How

576
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 4: do you how do you go through those talks with yourself?

577
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: I love the fans, I really do are and I

578
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: really appreciate when they treat me like I'm somebody like

579
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 1: you know, the people that I looked up to growing up.

580
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: When they treat me like that, that's always dope. Man.

581
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not like that. Sometimes go out there and

582
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: that just be like nigga when you're getting off the stage,

583
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: you know, like I've gotten that. But i'd trust me,

584
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to be here either. It's okay. On

585
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: the same page, yeah, exactly, Like I don't worry. I'll

586
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: be off as soon as I can. But anyways, he's

587
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: told Chris Brown right now, Yeah, but nah, I just

588
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: I really only do it to feed my family and

589
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: take care of people, bro, you know, like being an

590
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: artist right now. And it took me a long time

591
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: to really get my money right and figure figure shit

592
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: out and how now I'm straight and my family straight.

593
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Before for a minute, I was like really struggling there,

594
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: like trying to get it back and figure out what

595
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: the hell I was gonna do. But like, you know,

596
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: if I could, you know, somebody called me, if Drake

597
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: called me tomorrow and said, hey, bro, like just right

598
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: for me, for the rest of them, you know whatever, whoever,

599
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Chris Yo, just right for me or all these people,

600
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: Like I would stop being artist right away, you know

601
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I'm working on the game right now.

602
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: I've been studying game design for like five years, and uh,

603
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, granted I'm not doing it really for the money,

604
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: but like the moment I have some success and something

605
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: else that can feed my family the same way I'm

606
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: feeding my family right now to take care of people.

607
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm done being an artist, you know, just because like

608
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: why you know, because every time I release some stuff,

609
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: it eats away at me, like it's a huge energy pool,

610
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: no matter if it's receive what. I just don't like

611
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: being talked about. To be honest with you, I don't

612
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: like being in the even if it's good. Even if

613
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: it's good, I don't care because it's like, you know,

614
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: it's balanced, Like if people are talking good about something,

615
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: you know that's always going to be like people are

616
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: talking back. They want to be different, so it's just like,

617
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: oh what not? So I just I would rather not

618
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: be talked about.

619
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: Where do you think that comes from?

620
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: Huh?

621
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 3: Where do you think that comes from? That mentality?

622
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe never being good enough in high school, Like

623
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: I was really nerd in high school, Like, I ain't

624
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: really talk to nobody. All I did was walking around

625
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: listening to music every day, and uh, you know, I

626
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: was a kid that addressed different and whatnot.

627
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 4: Get paid off though.

628
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: They did kind of like make the dad hat nothing.

629
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So I mean, yeah, I don't know.

630
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: The fans, they definitely, you know, when they showed me love,

631
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 1: it definitely makes me want to go out there and

632
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: do it for them. You know, I really appreciate when

633
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: they pulling up and lining up just to see me

634
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: and you know, checking out my music and stuff. But like,

635
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I said, I just feel like

636
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the music that I write would just

637
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: be so much better for other artists.

638
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: Who's who's the artist that aside from the obvious, but

639
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: who's who's some of the artists that you you're dying

640
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: to work with, Like I really want to get in

641
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: the studio and write with this artist him, you know,

642
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: Christian right for him.

643
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, Like, because I studied draking

644
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: Chris Brown for so long and and Wayne, like obviously

645
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: I would want to write for any of those people,

646
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: even though they don't necessarily I won't say need it

647
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: or nothing like that. But I would really write for whoever,

648
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: Like I would have loved to just like play music

649
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: for people like for Real and you people pull up

650
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: on for Real. He's like got a bunch of songs

651
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: he cout. He like finds for the artists if they

652
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: like rock with them. Poopber another example, Like he got

653
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of songs that he can just like hear

654
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: somebody's album, be like y'all got something like this, what

655
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: do you think about this? Or just write on something?

656
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: And like they people trust him, they trust his ear,

657
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: his pin, and I want to be somebody that's trusted

658
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: like that. I always get looked at as like an artist,

659
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like me being an artist

660
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: is maybe you know a lot of these guys, there's

661
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: a lot of alpha males in the music industry. Like

662
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: a lot of them are very competitive, you know what

663
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, word a fake ego. It's yeah, well I've

664
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: experienced it a lot, you know what I mean. It's

665
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: just like people will look at you and treat you

666
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: like a threat. And like the way I've been you know,

667
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: I know I popped my ship a lot, you know

668
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: in these songs, but that's just because I have to.

669
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: But also, uh, you know, like I come in peach

670
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: like I'm not really here to like take nobody's spot

671
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: or or one up. Nobody will be bigger than somebody,

672
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like when they start to

673
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: like treat me like, you know, like they bigger than

674
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: me or like I should like bow down to them,

675
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, and I got a problem with that, bro,

676
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: because like you're not even really that talented, you know

677
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: what I mean.

678
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: It's always that like you're not even that relaxed, like

679
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: like not for that.

680
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: I want to chill because it's like, yo, we were strong.

681
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: I think we're stronger together, you know what I mean,

682
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: like all of us artists, Like I see so many

683
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: artists beefing with each other, and I know, like that's

684
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: the sporting people love it, you know what I mean, the.

685
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 4: Competitive edge you know, to kind of.

686
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Get I get it, man, but like I don't know. Yeah,

687
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 1: So that's the one another reason why I hate being

688
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: an artist, because it's like I gotta deal with that ship. Yeah,

689
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: the egos can't get in contact with certain people. Like

690
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: every time I stranger like collab with this person, glad

691
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: with that person, glab with this person, and like, I'm like, yo,

692
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: I've tried. I've tried to collab with all those people

693
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: and all of them just don't hit me back or don't.

694
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say no names, but there's a lot

695
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: of people people that like the most common people, you

696
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: will say that people want to hear it. I hope

697
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: it's not one that I'm like, I would love let's

698
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: just not even say that name. Let's just let all

699
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: the viewers out there just think about who it is.

700
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: I mean, if you actively get into just songwriting, I

701
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: feel like that may still be something you have to

702
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: run into though, because you do have to reach out

703
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: to people and be like, yo, I have a bunch

704
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: of references. I got a bunch of stuff I'd.

705
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Like to write. But that's the thing I don't really

706
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: I want people like Poober people reach out to Pooper. Yeah,

707
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, that's what I want

708
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: to be ingranted. I'm not nowhere near as you know

709
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: where poo Poober has done a lot. That's my big brother,

710
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: and I learned a lot from him. But like you know,

711
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: I would rather people just be like you know what,

712
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: I kind of want to hear what Bryson has in

713
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: mind for this. So I want to know what Bryson

714
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: would think about this project that I'm working on, you know,

715
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: like the same way I would call. But I get

716
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like really protective of their

717
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: creative energy and I definitely don't want to, you know,

718
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: muddy up the waters and whatnot.

719
00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: So trap soul now it's a it's you obviously, you

720
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: know that's your your John want to say, your sound

721
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: that you created, Yeah, you coined the genre. And I

722
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: feel like Bryce until it has a lot of kids

723
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: out here now as a result of the soundtrap. So uh,

724
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: we were just talking about the album the other day.

725
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: Rory was talking about, you know, the sexy drill and

726
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: how that you know, that's like a hot sound. You

727
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: even have some of that on a new project, and

728
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: it's really just the drums.

729
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: That's That's all the drill shit is as far as

730
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: I'm concerned.

731
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: But how how do you feel seeing you know, younger

732
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: guys who might be you know, I guess quote unquote

733
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: Dewaiian street kids, but now they're making that type of

734
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: music where the girls are dancing and they're having fun

735
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 2: at these parties. Knowing that that's a direct extension of

736
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: trap soul, like as Bryson, how do you feel hearing

737
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: these songs?

738
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, I like what they did.

739
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: I like how they took that and put their spin

740
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: on it and having fund in their own way. But

741
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: realistically trap souls with Birthday.

742
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's debatable for a lot of people. I

743
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: feel like there's a great quote out there that says,

744
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, thief steals, but the genius borrows, you know,

745
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: And I really respect artists that can figure out a

746
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: way to like borrow from my sound and make it

747
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: their own. I actually got into argument, well not really argument,

748
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: but like my homies was in the club. My dog

749
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: pream shout out, pream shout out. Yo, he's in a

750
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: little spot, and I was like, yo, so and so

751
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: is your son. And I was like, yo, I don't

752
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: really like that. Did they say huh no, no, just nah.

753
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: They was like, so and so's your son. I was

754
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: just like, yo, I don't really like that because like,

755
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: but they didn't mean in that way. That meant it

756
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: more like yo, like he's inspired by you and and

757
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: I was just like yeah, but every time you hear

758
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: somebody's my son, and music is always like a negative connotation,

759
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: Like it's always anytime think about it. Any time you've

760
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: ever heard of anybody say somebody's my son and the

761
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: song they always.

762
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: Put when you word it like that, they're my son. Yes,

763
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: But like I'm as said, you've a lot of kids

764
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: out here. I don't think that's offensive. Like I think

765
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: just a lot of people were inspired by a genre

766
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: that you created more or less. But yeah, that's my son,

767
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: I could see. Definitely direspectful for sure, But I mean,

768
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: what makes you want to hop on the sexy.

769
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Drill stuff for this project? For this project, I got

770
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: a couple more coming out, but my dog Vellus really

771
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: just the people I'll be working with. You know, he

772
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: from out here, so uh you know, he had that

773
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: beat and I loved it, and I'm uncle tool Chris Brown,

774
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: So I was like, Yo, that was like sampling. Ain't

775
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: no way about Chris. I was like, Yo, this is perfect.

776
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: And that was actually the song that like kicked off

777
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: my rap album. I was like, Yo, I'm about to

778
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: like make some rap music like really just catered to

779
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: women and people that love women, you know what I'm saying.

780
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: So but anyways, yeah, a lot of a lot of

781
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: sexy drill vibes, and you know, I really just I

782
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: like working on everything. My dog Charlie, he he makes

783
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: every type of beat and we just just try to

784
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: make anything, to be honest.

785
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like the way they chop the

786
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: samples in Sexy Drill now is how y'all have the

787
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: sample on Exchange that was just drill behind it. That's

788
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: why I feel like, that's not your son, but your

789
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: kids with the sexy drill shit?

790
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: For sure?

791
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: What made you drop the second disc first?

792
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: Sol and fixes, Fixes, Advices, so advices, I'm sorry.

793
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: So the reason why was just because Solace was always

794
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: like a fall album to me, and hold up, I

795
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: like that already what I.

796
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: Like as an artist that he recognized for seasons need

797
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: to change for this type of music. Like a lot

798
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: of people don't pay it, and that's a real thing.

799
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: The seasons in music is a very real thing that

800
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people pay attention to.

801
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: I think about that stuff because you know, on Solace,

802
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: I was really talking about my feelings and things I

803
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: was going through, and I was like, who wants to

804
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: hear this ship in the summertime? You know what I mean,

805
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Like maybe there's some people out there that want to

806
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: be sad in the summertime, but me, I'm trying.

807
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: To I'll be sad.

808
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go have a

809
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: good time, you know what I mean. Like I'm trying

810
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: to be out. I'm trying to be played in the

811
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: cars like loud, like not just the sad people. Like

812
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be in the mix of like girls

813
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: getting ready to go out to the club, you know

814
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: what i mean. Like, so, I was like, you know,

815
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: you know this album was the as soon as I

816
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: finished solads, you know, they wanted to put it out,

817
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: but I was like, nah, let's wait, because I like

818
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: made it for the fall. I was like, Yo, I'm

819
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: about to just make a rap album. I'm tired of

820
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: talking about my feelings anyway. Let's just I'm just gonna

821
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: have some fun summer vibes, good vibes. Let's put that

822
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: out and let's make a double album. And you know, yeah, so.

823
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: Now you you you on on vices, we talked about

824
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: when it came out, and it was like, yeah, you know,

825
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: Bryce is putting out a project double disk. I think

826
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: one He's going to be rapping on and I was like,

827
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: all right, is it rapping like straight rapping or is

828
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: it Bryson rapping where he's melodic? So it was like, nah,

829
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: I think he rapping. I was like, I love Bryson, man,

830
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: but I hope it's not just straight rap. So I

831
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: listened to the album last two day and I'm like, Okay,

832
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: this is this is Bryson.

833
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: This is what he's always done.

834
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: People is on Twitter like, oh, you know bryceon the Poljet.

835
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, but I didn't say nothing negative. Was yeah,

836
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: he's given us the melodic Bryson, like the rambo shit. Yeah,

837
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: that type of ship. And it's incredible. But the features, though,

838
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: how did some of those feature? Because I was not

839
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: expecting a Bryson tailor.

840
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: Applies teeth pains. Right. It goes back to what I

841
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: was telling y'all earlier, Like you know when people are like, oh,

842
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: collaborate with this person. I can't get none of those

843
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: people on the phone, you know what I mean. So like,

844
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: with this product, you can't get on bro. I ain't

845
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: saying no name on the front all of them, A way.

846
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: I don't believe.

847
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: So anyways, I've decided to rock with people that that

848
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: fuck with me, that been wanting to work with me.

849
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: Respect my respect me. You know, I'm not asking nobody

850
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: to bow down to me, but no means. But just

851
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: like people who just see like a mutual, like I

852
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: see this dude, what's equals? Like I see Plies as

853
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: an equal. I don't see him as somebody who you

854
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean? T paying all these people like,

855
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: so I'm just like, Yo, let's just make music, bro.

856
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: And I like the way you use T paint in that.

857
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: It was like he's in the background vocals. It's not

858
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: really a verse. It's like yo, because I think Pee's was.

859
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: He was like, Yo, is that T paint? And I

860
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: was like, that's definitely T paint vocals. That was like

861
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: a dope way to kind of like put T paint

862
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: on it. But that's one of my favorite joints on there.

863
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 2: But the last record he was kind of you was talking.

864
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: That was the record I think you used to get

865
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: your ship off. Is it finished?

866
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

867
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: Finished?

868
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: A lot of particular Remember they gave the cold to shoulder,

869
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: throwing them jokes and stones just for rocking them ovios.

870
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 4: But you know that ship was bogus explain that bar uh.

871
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: You know, there was a moment where I got some

872
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: some Geordans from Drake okay, and you know there's just

873
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: people talking ship about me for like rocking the Geordan's like,

874
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: oh you know he ain't signed the OVO, he'll want

875
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: to be Basically, I'm just like, you know, like because

876
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: you had the sneakers, because the sneakers, and I was

877
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: just happy and another No, there was also rumors that

878
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: I was going around line saying that I signed the

879
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: over yo, just to like get my pub deal up

880
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And you know I wasn't really fucking with

881
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: that because I'm just like, bro, if I wanted to

882
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: say I signed the over YO, you know I would

883
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: have signed. I would have signed over You would have

884
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: said I wanted to sign the over Yo. I would

885
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: still to this day sign the OVO drink on me,

886
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like if it made sense,

887
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: of course, but like you know, like yeah, so it

888
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: was just people and the people on the internet like

889
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, just like trolling and ship like you know,

890
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: want to be OVERO all that ship just because like

891
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's the that's the I love Drake, I

892
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: love over YO. I love what the real relationship there. Yeah,

893
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: like I really really really loved that guy, so you know,

894
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: I just felt like that ship was corny. Whoever, whoever

895
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: had anything to say, no, you.

896
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: Had, you had you used that record to definitely get

897
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: some ship off that. That record was sounded like it

898
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: was directed toward a lot of things. You read a

899
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: lot of things you hear people saying online on power podcast.

900
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: Or whatever about Bryson.

901
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: Talk to me about solids though the fall vibe like,

902
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: is that more Bryson R and B that feel.

903
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: It definitely is. It's more like, just like I said,

904
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: it's some feelings. And with this one, I kind of

905
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: went into it. It started off as like really just

906
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: therapy because I was like just really going through it

907
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I just need to like

908
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: get the ship off my brain things that I'm thinking about,

909
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: like because I was actually doing therapy and it was

910
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: so freeing to talk about things, and I was like,

911
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I should just try to some music

912
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: a little bit and just say say something be vulnerable.

913
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: So it started off as that and then it just

914
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: ended up became it just became a project. It was

915
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: going to be a mixtape. I was gonna put on

916
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: a on a SoundCloud like I always do. But I

917
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I can't. I can't call it a mixtape.

918
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: I gotta make it an album. And yeah, it's more

919
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: like you know, like the it's just fall vibes, R

920
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: and B. It's a little bit more serious than the Vices.

921
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: Vices is more like fun Yeah, and you know Solace

922
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: the title. I was just really trying to find comfort

923
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: in my sadness and the ship that I was going through,

924
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, funny enough, it's like the.

925
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: Solace and devices. It's like I was really like chasing

926
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 4: my vices.

927
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: When I was making Solace, Like you know, I was like, yes,

928
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of shit that I probably should,

929
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: like smoking, drinking, all the shenanigans you could think of,

930
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: like just doing all that shit. And I actually dreaded

931
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: going to the studio like to make these songs. You know,

932
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: I love the songs, but like it was, it was

933
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: hard for me to sit there and record and talk

934
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: about my feelings and I was wondering. I was trying

935
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: to figure out why I felt that way. So whenever

936
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: I went into the Vices album, I was like, yo,

937
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm about to just make an album called Devices, and

938
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm about to just get rid of my vices completely.

939
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: And I recorded Devices in like two weeks, you know

940
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I knocked that ship out and

941
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: I had so much fun doing it, Like I had

942
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: to find a new focus because like you know what

943
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know how it is. So I was like, yeah,

944
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: completely sober, and I'm still sober right now. So it's

945
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: been great.

946
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: You think you create better when you're in love or

947
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: going through shit.

948
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: You know, that's the that's the common miscaucept. People always

949
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: think they're like yo. Even when me and my girl

950
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: first got together, it was like break his heart so

951
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: you can get another album.

952
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: I do remember that on the internet. I remember it

953
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: was like a vacation picker star. I do remember that

954
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: going viral, like everyone was livid that you were in

955
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: love with big ass smile on his face.

956
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: People are crazy.

957
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: Right as wild. It was wild, but like honestly, like

958
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: my I got some dope in love songs, man, Like

959
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: some real dope in love songs, like even on the

960
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: Ship Prize is one of them on the BTA album.

961
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: Writing to her album, but also you know, my Serenity

962
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: album had a lot of that, But I'm always going

963
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: to talk about ship that I go. I don't need

964
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: to be heartbroken, Like I wasn't heartbroken when I made Traps.

965
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, like this is just

966
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: this is just life, bro, you know, like I love

967
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: my girl and it sometimes I hate my girls, you know,

968
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: like sometimes we want to tear each other's heads off, bros.

969
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: Just like it just is what it is.

970
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 4: Like.

971
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that was I will say Jamari's other coast.

972
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: I think it was twenty twenty three with Kean Olladay's

973
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 3: album Your Verse Ongoing, I think was Verse of the year.

974
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, but like me and Jamarius know that

975
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: shit work. That's our favorite fucking verse. Yeah, that was

976
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: the nicest. That was the most polite way to tear

977
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: up your girlfriend I've ever heard.

978
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: It was such a fat Yeah.

979
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: What what was it like releasing that, because I mean

980
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 3: it was very very personal.

981
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. The crazy thing is I wasn't even supposed to

982
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: wrap on that, Like I lost my voice right before,

983
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: I remember, because I just got outside. My velis row outside.

984
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: He sent me outside and ke I don't want me

985
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: to jump on the song. I try to go record

986
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: outside boys were completely going I got a version out

987
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: there somewhere that's like horrible, but uh and I was

988
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: like told, like, yo, I'm gonna have to wrap because

989
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: like I can't sing right now, literally can't. So you

990
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: can hear on that account. But anyways, when it came out,

991
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I never I never I don't know.

992
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: I never know what's gonna happen after I release, see,

993
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: so I just kind of just write it, and you know, honestly,

994
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: I just hope people think it's fake sometimes, like or

995
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: just like you just never know.

996
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: Now that one felt like somebody else, I mean, authentic.

997
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: They d wrote Confessions fair, so I mean, you know

998
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: it's possible you.

999
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: Can put that emotion into it and then not be

1000
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 4: your emotion.

1001
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: Nah, but that felt like the long blue paragraph that

1002
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: you send to your oath, like she says one thing

1003
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: and then you break down every single fact and then

1004
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: you just wait for them. You just see the typing

1005
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 3: thing and then it stops. Like That's Howverse felt felt

1006
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: to me.

1007
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: So now you're on tour with one of the biggest

1008
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: artists that we've ever had, and it's it's just crazy

1009
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: because braces in there, Like I don't even want to

1010
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: be on the stage, but he's on arguably the biggest

1011
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: stage right now.

1012
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: With Chris Brown.

1013
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: What is it like.

1014
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: One just you know, being around an artist like Chris, Uh,

1015
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: seeing his work ethic and then seeing how he goes

1016
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: out there every night and it just puts on the

1017
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: show for hours of just you know, performing and production

1018
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: and hit records. What is that like for you to

1019
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: just be able to watch that and see that unfold? Man,

1020
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: I've learned so much from Chris just being on this

1021
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: on the show I'm in on this tour.

1022
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Uh. You know, He's such a great human and Bro's

1023
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: just like he really loves his ship for real. Every

1024
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: time I can see him go up there and do

1025
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: it like he gives it one hundred and fifty percent.

1026
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: Like I be waiting, I'll be like, what is he

1027
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: gonna like have a bad show? Like, yeah, don't have

1028
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: bad shows. He goes maybe sometimes the audio is a

1029
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: little fucked up and the calf out of his control. Yeah,

1030
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: out of his control. But when he gets on the stage,

1031
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: he does his thing. You know. For me, sometimes I

1032
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: get out there and I'm just like the crowds just

1033
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: kind of like that, Like you know, They're just like

1034
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm not giving a fuck, and I'm just like, well, shit,

1035
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous man, you know what I mean. Bad,

1036
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: that's tough. They did.

1037
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: You know, obviously, Chris is Chris, but it's like Bryson

1038
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: has his fans in his in his following as well

1039
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: and hit records. But in the scope of you know,

1040
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: everybody's here like this is Chris bro Yeah, it's just

1041
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: like opening for you know, yeahs is Michael Jackson, like exactly.

1042
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: And I see it as like I'll be telling them

1043
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: on stage or not, like, yo, I'm really I'm really

1044
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: a team Breezy bat for real. Like you know, I'd

1045
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: be seeing new fans in there and they be looking

1046
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: at me with the stink fan. I'll be like, yo,

1047
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: like I've been around for a long time, you know

1048
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I've been study this man. I

1049
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: really know his ship and I play some ship that

1050
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: they've never heard before. Yeah, but uh yeah no. Still though,

1051
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: like I say that, I say that this is the

1052
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: best tour that I've been on, you know what I mean.

1053
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: And I haven't been on my own sold out headline tours,

1054
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: been on the weekend tour loved that, but like this

1055
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: one is just the best man. Everybody on his team,

1056
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: his staff, everybody's cool as hell, no problems, no issues,

1057
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: just good vibes, you know what I mean. Yeah, just

1058
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: great energy. Everybody's smiling, everybody's happy, you know. And yeah, bro,

1059
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: he's just an inspiring got to be around. And he's

1060
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: giving me a lot of a lot of gems that

1061
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: I just never knew. And uh shit, this is helping

1062
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: me be back.

1063
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: You have you told Crystal what you man? I don't

1064
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: really want to be an artist, like yeah, yeah right, yeah, yeah,

1065
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: I know he looking at you, like, yeah, he said

1066
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: the same shit Drake said to me. I still can't believe.

1067
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: It's like, you know whatever, But.

1068
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 3: You're talking about Chris Brown, who puts out forty five records.

1069
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he loves the ship. Yeah yeah yeah.

1070
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 3: Speaking of tours, I think the most women I've ever

1071
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: seen in Webster Hall in my entire life was your

1072
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: first New York Trap Soul show.

1073
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: I believe it was Webit Call that might have been Webs.

1074
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: Or was it Hoghline.

1075
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 3: I forgot which one it was, but I've never seen

1076
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: more women in my entire thing. That was like one

1077
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: of those moments like I saw Kendrick at Sobs and

1078
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, this is like a thing.

1079
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: He's going to be a thing.

1080
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: I have not been to a show that crazy in

1081
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: that size venue like since like literally it may have

1082
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: been I may have been the only dude in there.

1083
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: I had never seen that many women in my fune.

1084
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: No, that's the first time I met Bryson years ago.

1085
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: Might have been like twenty fifteen, maybe twenty sixteen at

1086
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: the Fillmore I think in Detroit and we walked in

1087
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: there shout out to shout out to black Mic. I

1088
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: pull up and you know, I'm like, the album's going crazy,

1089
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: the record's going crazy. So we like side stage and

1090
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: I'll look out into the audience and I'm from the

1091
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: bottom of the film all to the top. It was

1092
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: nothing but women, And I was like, this is the

1093
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: craziest shit I've like, I've never looked in the audience

1094
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: to see all women before. Like it didn't make and

1095
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: he said something like so that. Mike was like, Yo, bro,

1096
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: it's been like this, And I shout out today they

1097
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: was opening on that tour day. It was like, Yo,

1098
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: every night this is it looks like And I'm like

1099
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: and then you know, still Bryce is the same guy backstage,

1100
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, man, let's just go do this man,

1101
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: just like Nigga you got about you know how many

1102
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: women are sitting out there waiting for you at this stage,

1103
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: like this is the crazy shit. But to see it

1104
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: go from that to now being on tour with Chris,

1105
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just a testament to your craft, man,

1106
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: and your skill set of just being a dope, you know,

1107
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: having a dope pen and putting out dope projects, incredible

1108
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: songs that I think every woman at some point has

1109
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: posted on their social media of Bryce into the record.

1110
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 2: But coming out of this now the whole Chris Brown tour,

1111
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: what's next for Bryson? Like I know the album Solace

1112
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: is coming out in the fall.

1113
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Video games and writing video games like that's I gotta

1114
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: shift my focus back to that lot of work man,

1115
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: And I just it's my first ever game and I

1116
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: just want to make it.

1117
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: What is the game? What is the what is the

1118
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 4: premise of the game, Like the type of game is

1119
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 4: it is?

1120
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: The game is called Brutal Industry. It's about It's about

1121
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: the music industry. So yeah, basically, you know, the protagonists you.

1122
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: You are the protagonists in the game, and you get

1123
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: to experience the things that you will experience in the music.

1124
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: Industry, and those are like g T a music industry.

1125
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: It's a fighting game slap out of exactly. Yet. Yeah,

1126
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: I can't say too much, but just know that, like

1127
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, but I can Yeah, I can't

1128
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: say so much.

1129
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's interesting, that's a great concept. That's fine.

1130
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: I just you know, I put a lot of my

1131
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: my my real pain is suffering into it, you know

1132
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: what I mean, things that you know I went through,

1133
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: and I just I kind of just funk with the

1134
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: player a little bit, you know. So you know, I'm

1135
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 1: really excited about it. I'm doing a lot of voice

1136
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: acting in it. You know that anime is it's a game,

1137
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: it's a video game. There's music attached to it. I

1138
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: got a lot of dope plans that I'm excited and

1139
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: I just want to like really lock in on it.

1140
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: But I do have another album called Serenity that I

1141
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: started on in twenty eighteen. But like I realized that

1142
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't. I was like, how can I

1143
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: make an album called Serenity? And I don't feel that.

1144
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: And that was after my depression. That was after my

1145
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: my my second album flopped and I was like, yo,

1146
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: let me, let me just why.

1147
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 4: Do you hold out a flop?

1148
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: It was I mean it was technically it was a

1149
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was just technically a flop.

1150
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 2: You know, who's the technicality? Like it's a platinum. Fuck

1151
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: I'll go as Twitter right now.

1152
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: The perception wise, I guess based off the monster that

1153
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: Trap Soul was follow.

1154
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: That you can't say. It's just you know, honestly, it

1155
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: just wasn't me. Bro, Like, if I'm being honest, it's

1156
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: like you remember the based jam right, oh yeah Jam,

1157
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: Remember when like the Magic came out of the ball? Yeah,

1158
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: that was me on that album, you know what I mean.

1159
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm still you know, what, are still

1160
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: the tall I couldn't, probably don't, but you would lie

1161
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: into it, yeah you know. And it's just like because

1162
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: when Traps Sol came, I always tell people this. People

1163
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: always forget, but like that, like every time I release

1164
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: the project, it don't matter. Every time I release the

1165
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 1: project and people are talking about missing an energy pool,

1166
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: but that being my trap, so being my first album

1167
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: and me really just wanted to be good like and

1168
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: people think I was good, and then seeing so many

1169
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: people say that I was bad, like with Traps Sol Like,

1170
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: I'm talking about first couple of weeks when it came out.

1171
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about right now. I'm not talking about

1172
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: two years after when people start saying using the word

1173
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: class again. Ship Like, there's some people are still out

1174
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: there that don't even enjoy that album or probably never

1175
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: even heard of it. Well, I mean, obviously y'all y'all

1176
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: be cause y'all listen to R and B and rap,

1177
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: But there are people who don't know who I am.

1178
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 4: Oh, No, for sure, there's nobody that's going to hear

1179
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 4: that album say that's not a great album.

1180
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: Like I think.

1181
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: I think that people that say that I get, well,

1182
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: you're the only people that will hear that album and

1183
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: say that say it's not my Them niggas don't matter, man,

1184
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: It it taste levels, it's different, you know what I'm saying,

1185
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: Like it's just not for everything.

1186
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: Know now that they don't matter, you know what I mean?

1187
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: But like at that moment when I was twenty two

1188
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: years old and coming to music industry and really just

1189
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: trying to prove something to my hometown that I was

1190
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: going to be like that I had them and I

1191
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: had them on my back and my family that we's good.

1192
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1193
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: I felt like all the power got stripped away, like

1194
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: right when that shit dropped, you know, and I was

1195
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: just I went into the craziest depression and you know, yeah,

1196
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: and they wanted to follow up right away, like yo,

1197
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: we need other album. It was just like that the

1198
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: pressure of that money was looking a little stuff feeling

1199
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: like work. Yeah, it was just like, I don't know,

1200
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: stuff feel like work. It's like that's common though. You

1201
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: understand that, no, for sure?

1202
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: Do you understand Frank Ocean a little bit more now

1203
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: in hindsight?

1204
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?

1205
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: Somebody that had like a definitive crazy first album after

1206
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: the mixtape and then disappeared then we got blonde and

1207
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: then really disappear Like he doesn't fall into the pressure

1208
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: the same way Lauren Hill after Miseducation just did Unplugged

1209
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 3: after that. Do you understand that path a little bit more?

1210
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I think, you know, sometimes I be feeling like

1211
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: for Frank it was like a creative decision, but yeah,

1212
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe it is because like the pressures

1213
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: I mean we would probably never know, you know, but

1214
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't even want to reveal

1215
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: that to the world and be like, yo, the pressures

1216
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: of that made me feel like I don't know, and

1217
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: Blind was amazing. Like I said, some people will say

1218
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: Blind is better than the Channel Orange. I mean, you

1219
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: know that's written the R and B album. Yeah, yeah, man,

1220
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: Frank Coast is my favorite artist period. But I was

1221
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: just gonna say that, like, I think, what fucks with

1222
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And I was talking to somebody

1223
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: else about this, who also has a classic on our belt.

1224
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: You know, we were just kind of like, yo, when

1225
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,959
Speaker 1: people are just like, hey, just go make this again,

1226
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: you know, that's like the worst thing to tell to

1227
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: an artists. And it's just like I don't even understand

1228
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: why people want that so bad, like not want that

1229
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: album again, Like it's just like you already have the

1230
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: album to listen to. Like I always tell people like yo,

1231
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: Apple Music and Spotify is the best way at the

1232
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: time travel bro like, but people don't realize that it's

1233
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: really just because of the moments that they had, who

1234
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: they was dating at the time, what they was going through,

1235
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Like it's nostalgia you know, it's like it's like it's somebody.

1236
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: That's why when you hear Christmas album, for the most part,

1237
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: it's all renditions of songs that they already love, you know,

1238
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: because nobody's really that bold enough to make a completely

1239
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: original Christmas out. That's because a lot of people will

1240
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: probably bash it right away. She's like, I don't really

1241
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: make me feel the way feel. It's just like any

1242
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: Christmas movie you hear, they're gonna put the classics in there.

1243
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: But anyway, so nostalgia is super important, and I just

1244
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: think it's heavy to sit there and try to tell

1245
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: an artist to like just go through this again, you

1246
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like dog like, I don't know.

1247
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm a real genuine fan of people and things and

1248
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: things that I really love, so it's like I get that.

1249
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: Like I always use GT Rocks our games as an example, Like,

1250
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, they got GTA six coming out, but if

1251
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: they wanted to, if they wanted to be like, yo,

1252
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna do GTA six, We're gonna

1253
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: wait a little bit. We're actually gonna do Bully Bully too.

1254
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that, yeah, because I love what they do.

1255
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: I love.

1256
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: I love everything they do. I really support them, and

1257
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: it's like I hope I'm alive to see GTA six,

1258
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you know all of us,

1259
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, and I hope that it comes out next year.

1260
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: But if it didn't, I wouldn't be mad at them,

1261
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And like they don't never

1262
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: have to top anything that they've done in the past.

1263
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: For me, I just want them to keep creating.

1264
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that's one of the pressures that

1265
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: as an artist, like the fans and people are always

1266
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: comparing you to your last project or your best project,

1267
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: your best song, and you feel like you got to

1268
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: match that or surpass that every time.

1269
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I don't even give a fuck now, bro.

1270
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: I just I'm just making it. And it's just like

1271
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: at this moment, all I care about is moments, bro,

1272
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: Like you know what I realized, whatever with the last

1273
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: album is just like like you said, Clipso there's a

1274
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: lot of people that don't even know clips so like

1275
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: that don't even know it exists, so like, but they

1276
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: know whatever she want, you know what I'm saying, Yeah,

1277
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: all you need is one one really anytime all you

1278
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: need is one. Then you can go on tour perform

1279
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: all the previous hits that you had before, and that's it.

1280
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: You get back to it, And like, all I care

1281
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: about it is like those moments. I'm not chasing the classic.

1282
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm not chasing having you know, a critical claim. I

1283
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: just don't care about none of that. Like, yeah, I'm

1284
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: just making music. If y'all fuck with it, y'all do

1285
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: y'all don't whatever. Bro, I really don't care, like for me.

1286
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: Like a full length project because you have incredible song

1287
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: like could have been with her, Yeah, Insecure with Jazmine, Yeah,

1288
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: like those are classic records. You ever thought about kind

1289
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 2: of like a more full length project with the women

1290
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: in R and b.

1291
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: Uh like of my own? Yeah, I never really thought

1292
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: about that. That's that don't sound like a bad idea because.

1293
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: I think it's always easier to work with women sometimes

1294
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: as opposed Like.

1295
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: That's no, That's exactly what goes back to what I

1296
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: was saying. A whole lot of alpha males. Yeah, they

1297
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: so stuck on like how can I be better?

1298
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1299
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like, bro, let's just be better together. Yeah,

1300
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: you can actually collaborate, Yeah, let's just collaborate. But the

1301
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: girls they always like, yo, let's work. Yeah, you know

1302
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, And it's like and I love that.

1303
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: That's why I have more features with women than I

1304
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: do with guys, because it's like they always be on

1305
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: that ship, all of them, every time. So you know, Yeah,

1306
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: that's something that don't sound like a bad idea man.

1307
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: Like I mean, could have been an insecure I mean,

1308
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: that's two of the greatest R and B collab records

1309
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: that I think we've had in the past. However many

1310
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: years like timeless Sound, Timeless records. You can hear those

1311
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: records today and it sounds like it just came out

1312
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: last week, like it's not dated. I just feel like

1313
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: some of your best work is with women. It's with

1314
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: with with with the female artists. Yeah, yeah, I don't know,

1315
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: just something to think about, definitely. I just don't want

1316
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: you to disappear and never put me again. That's all

1317
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to he wants to disappear. What's the what's

1318
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: your relationship like with Jack Harler? I know he shouted

1319
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: you out before you guys from the same city. Did

1320
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: you guys have a strong relationship or just different age gap.

1321
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, I don't really speak to him like that.

1322
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: What's what's the music scene like in Louisville like that?

1323
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: Sure, we got yes TG doing this thing. Mm hmm.

1324
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: I need to tap I need to tap in more.

1325
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people that are dope. Let the mars. Yeah,

1326
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: super dope. I definitely got to tap back in. But

1327
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: that's people who are just like on the come, up

1328
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: on the rise, just doing their thing. Yeah, I haven't

1329
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: been out there in so long in Louisville in a minute.

1330
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: Now, Being that you worked with Simberland, what do you

1331
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: think about this AI artist ship that he's doing right now.

1332
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not mad at it, to be honest

1333
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: with me. Personal huh, I'm furious. I understand, I understand.

1334
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: But like when you start thinking about, like, okay, you

1335
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: used these artists who, like, you know, real artists to

1336
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: like train your music, then that's why I'm like a

1337
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: little bit like I don't know that, say, chat GBT,

1338
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: write me a Bryson Taylor esque record and it's a hit.

1339
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 4: You're gonna have a problem with that.

1340
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but you just said earlier that people

1341
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: are writing bryceon til ESK.

1342
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: For sure, one, but they're actually writing people, like even

1343
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: when even if somebody's biting, they're still they're still writing it,

1344
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 3: and you would also be inspired to get that. But

1345
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 3: when you have to clear a song, I have to

1346
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: copyright it. Artists has to get paid, even if it

1347
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: is a fucking penny on the dollar with Spotify, it's

1348
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: still legally has to get cleared. They're taking an entire

1349
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: music catalog with no permission to train a new artist

1350
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: like that, everyone should be paid, yeah, like everyone should

1351
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: get a check if you're taking Spotify and putting it

1352
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 3: inside fake human Like, I don't know.

1353
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: Man, it's hard because it's like this might be a

1354
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: hot tape, but like I don't know. I f like

1355
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of what we all are as humans. Like

1356
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm using I'm using so many different artists to train myself,

1357
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: of course, but.

1358
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: You're doing it, you are physically doing it. There is

1359
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: feeling to it, and you can be inspired and make

1360
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 3: it your own. Just literally taking data and then spitting

1361
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: out data that just sounds like music to me is thievery.

1362
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I trust me. I see it from both sides, man,

1363
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: Like I could see how it could be fucked up

1364
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: for real, like like I said, using especially like these

1365
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: unknown artists that have never you know, like that, It's

1366
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: like that would be infuriated, like because like people that

1367
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: are really just trying to get known and popping, like

1368
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: they just want to be a part of this, But

1369
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: you're training this thing to be better than me. Like,

1370
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

1371
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 3: I'm not anti AI, Like I think there's great things

1372
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: and pro tools now you can do with a like

1373
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: I think it can definitely assist a real musician, But

1374
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 3: to just openly say, yo, we're taking everyone's catalog so

1375
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: we can make the best mega artists is like, yeah,

1376
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: what the fuck are we doing?

1377
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: Scary?

1378
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: Have you been using the AI with the video game developing?

1379
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: And it's funny you say that the segue, like that's

1380
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: kind of like a little bit tied into the plot

1381
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: of a brutal industry. For sure, there's a lot of

1382
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: sci fi in it as well. But yeah, no, I

1383
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: have used a little bit, not for the artist, but

1384
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, definitely just to help. When you use AI

1385
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: as a tool, I feel like that's when it's the best,

1386
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like for me, I have

1387
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: so many ideas that I don't know how to pull

1388
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: out of my own head because my vision might be

1389
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: clouded just from like what I was going through that

1390
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: day or whatever. So like I have to like really

1391
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: talk about certain things and then chat GPT or whatever

1392
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: I use will help me like pull it out of

1393
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: my mind so I could write efficiently, you know what

1394
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Even with shit songs. Sometimes like I'll be like, damn,

1395
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, Like when I was writing Minnie Kelly, I

1396
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: don't know what the cross ship. I was like, you know,

1397
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 1: I think people should use it like as a tool.

1398
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to rhyme something with this word,

1399
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: but I need it to be only things that are

1400
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: expensive and luxurious. So what words do? And then they

1401
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: will give me like fifteen words and then I'll look

1402
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: at those words and be like that one works because

1403
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: I want to use that to get to the next

1404
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: bar where I'm talking about something, you know what I'm saying.

1405
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: So it's like when you use a tool, yeah, you

1406
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: should use it like that, but like also using to

1407
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: write a song, yeah, that's crazy. That's absolutely to write a.

1408
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: Full song is like now, if you want to do

1409
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 3: like a podcast level maul and I will will sign

1410
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: our likeness over and we could fight the artists like this,

1411
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: there is.

1412
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: A podcast level.

1413
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: I use the set like Mike Stands everybody else.

1414
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 4: We could do it.

1415
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: We could do it. Definitely.

1416
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: Let me know, imagine the artist coming here and just

1417
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: just drop kick us.

1418
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm gonna send y'all one. I hope y'all

1419
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: a copy of it. I hope y'all just have it

1420
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: in here. It's gonna be a on OURCAE cabinet.

1421
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 4: So definitely, that's amazing.

1422
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: Man.

1423
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 4: Before we let you go.

1424
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: With everything going on right now, you know, album out

1425
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: Vices is crazy. Can't wait to hear Solace on tour.

1426
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: Chris Brown sold out stadiums every night. It's Bryce and

1427
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: Tailor happy.

1428
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm so happy, man. It's one of the best years

1429
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: my life though. I can't even lie to you, like

1430
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: it's my life is so good right now, I'm just like, okay,

1431
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: hold up so.

1432
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: Bad like that, Like when sh it is going good,

1433
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 2: we're like it's something about to happening, some bad ship

1434
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: about to happen.

1435
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 4: Man, Like, why are we like that?

1436
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: I know, right, but it's just I don't know. I

1437
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: guess that's just life, man. Life is so life is

1438
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: mysterious like that.

1439
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: But I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm glad you're happy.

1440
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: Rory and myself. We we've supported you for years, continue

1441
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 2: to support you. Love everything you're doing. Looking forward to

1442
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: whatever you got coming games, next, Serenity album, Solace album,

1443
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: stick around though. Man, we need we need that, We

1444
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: need that music. Man, don't don't just fade into the

1445
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: bushes like Homos Simpson.

1446
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: Don't do that. I can't make no promises or just

1447
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: look as I don't want to hit the lottery or

1448
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: something like.

1449
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 2: You know, if you didn't, then by all means, I'm like,

1450
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: you know what, fuck it man, he out of here,

1451
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: he going? Man, Bryson, thank you, man. We appreciate you.

1452
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: Uh when you put out Serenity, please come back kick

1453
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: it with us. Man, anytime you're in the city.

1454
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 4: You want to come by. You got a home here

1455
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 4: with us.

1456
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: Man. Thank you.

1457
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 4: Guys.

1458
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: Man, I'm not nigga, He's just Ginger. That's Penn Griffy, Bryson, Tiller.

1459
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: No