WEBVTT - BA QA: How To Avoid Fraud

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want the first question?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't take a breath.

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<v Speaker 2>You read it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of talking here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from Ashley from ig Hey, Mandy, I was

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<v Speaker 2>one of your first Mandy money makers. Woo woo. We

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<v Speaker 2>love a stand of Mandy. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>all that you've done and taught me. My question today

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<v Speaker 2>is how can I protect myself from identity theft? This

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<v Speaker 2>morning I woke up to new emails about small business

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<v Speaker 2>social security account update and a purchase of two new iPhones.

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<v Speaker 2>Please help, Ashley, do you have to pay for credit security?

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh wow, something's going on there, Like they're saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>your social security account has been updated, purchase of two

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<v Speaker 3>new iPhones. The first thing I do whenever I get

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<v Speaker 3>those emails is check the email address that it came from,

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<v Speaker 3>because I just, for example, I just started to advertise

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<v Speaker 3>on Facebook a week ago and I got the most

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<v Speaker 3>legitimate looking email about my AD's account being in violation

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<v Speaker 3>of their rules, which is like one of the It

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<v Speaker 3>can happen all the time with your when you're doing ads.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really easy to like upset the Facebook gods. And

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want to do that because then you waste

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<v Speaker 3>money in time anyway, And I was almost like, I

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<v Speaker 3>need to click this link and figure out what I've done,

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<v Speaker 3>but it just something about it, like the formatting. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I checked the email address and it was like

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<v Speaker 3>from an Outlook account, you know. So I think the

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<v Speaker 3>first thing for to secure yourself is to be aware

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<v Speaker 3>of what phishing attempts look like, which seems so old school,

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<v Speaker 3>but they still happen, you know, So check that email address.

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<v Speaker 3>You can also hover over any hyperlinks and see where

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually trying to direct you to. And if it's

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<v Speaker 3>not to, you know, a legitimate website, then I would

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<v Speaker 3>just say, excuse me, immediately kick it to spam or

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<v Speaker 3>to junk. That's how I feel about email. But now

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<v Speaker 3>it's come into your text do you get do you

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<v Speaker 3>get fishing? Text now?

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<v Speaker 1>Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about this the irs, I'm like, girls, so you texted.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm like, with your lack of funding right now?

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<v Speaker 2>So no, first and foremost that like whatever I get

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<v Speaker 2>to Mandy's point, you know, I checked the email to say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the email at just coming from? And then typically

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<v Speaker 2>I'll call the company directly if that's available to me

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<v Speaker 2>to call the company directly. But one thing I had

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<v Speaker 2>to do so when my late husband was still here.

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<v Speaker 2>His I don't know why but they used to steal

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<v Speaker 2>that man's, that poor man's identity all the time. Like

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<v Speaker 2>literally one time they bought a car and we only

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<v Speaker 2>knew because they they were like based in I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like upstate New York someplace far where they were getting

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<v Speaker 2>tickets from easy Paths and so they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Going on tour with Janelle's name, Jerelle's name, and then

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<v Speaker 3>got a loan or.

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<v Speaker 2>Something something, and then they were get like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they had an easy Pass account they put in his

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<v Speaker 2>name and was not paying the ticket, so we were

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<v Speaker 2>getting easy Pass tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we found out. It was just a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say at least three times when I was

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<v Speaker 2>with him and he said it happened before, Like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm assuming that his probably information was on some

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<v Speaker 2>crazy you know, like what it's like the dark web,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and so they're probably just swapping it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus two, Jerell's an identical twin. His twins name is Terrell,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have Jerrell Smith Terrell Smith, both born on

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<v Speaker 2>the same day, and so oftentimes they would see each

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<v Speaker 2>other's things on each other's credit reports, because that happens

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<v Speaker 2>too with juniors. Oftentimes that will happen, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the same house. Your dad is a senior, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a junior, but you're both named Robert Smith and you

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<v Speaker 2>live at the same place. So sometimes you'll see your

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on each other's credit report. But it happens with

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<v Speaker 2>twins who have similar names too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really, so what would they do then? Would they

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<v Speaker 3>have to like dispute it or yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Girl?

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<v Speaker 3>They was like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is why your credits are like whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I came along, I said, bab we got

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<v Speaker 2>do something about this because this is crazy. So we actually,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not sponsored.

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<v Speaker 1>Or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't give me any money like as budgety Store

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<v Speaker 2>or Brownhibition. We actually signed up for LifeLock.

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<v Speaker 1>And it stopped it instantly.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me about LifeLock or these Yeah, because I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>I have never invested in something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember how much LifeLock costs because now I

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<v Speaker 2>just like, haven't automated. I think at the time it

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<v Speaker 2>was like maybe like ten bucks a month. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more now maybe twenty bucks or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got LifeLock, signed up for it, and what

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<v Speaker 2>I like about LifeLock is even for me. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>once I went to go open up a bank account

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<v Speaker 2>at like my regular bank or whatever, and the bank

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<v Speaker 2>was like, we're not able to and I'm like why,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I got a text from LifeLock saying someone

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to open up a bank account. If that's you,

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<v Speaker 2>click yes, If that's you, click no, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, So I had to approve. So I would

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<v Speaker 2>get a text or email and typically it's a text,

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<v Speaker 2>email and phone call to say any new card, any

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<v Speaker 2>new bank account, any new debt that I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get into. LifeLock would me up and say is this you,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know like sometimes if you forget like me,

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<v Speaker 2>which I always forget, and I'm like, why can't you

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<v Speaker 2>open it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, that's right. So that's one thing like LifeLock.

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<v Speaker 2>But also too you can go directly to like Experience

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<v Speaker 2>Equofax TransUnion and you can actually freeze. I did this

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<v Speaker 2>with Jirell after he passed away. My financial advisor Angelie

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<v Speaker 2>said right away, Tiffany, because when people know that someone

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<v Speaker 2>passed away, they know you're in grief, and they will

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes attack that person's you know, financial credit and background

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<v Speaker 2>and just start using it up. So I went into

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<v Speaker 2>each of those specific accounts and froze his credit. And

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<v Speaker 2>you can freeze and unfreeze, but I froze it obviously indefinitely,

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<v Speaker 2>so no one can open up anything in his name.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just am not paying attention because it's not me,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Something so sparker too. I did that now I'm remembering

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<v Speaker 3>because I was telling Tiffan, like, I think I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 3>delinquent with my identity, but I did do the credit freeze.

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<v Speaker 3>This was I mean think for Equifax data breach back

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty sixteen really spooked me. But I mean there's

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<v Speaker 3>so many. It's just so many data breaches they can't

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<v Speaker 3>even keep It's not even that big of a news

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<v Speaker 3>anymore because it just happens all the time. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>credit freeze is. And I remember then I started shopping

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<v Speaker 3>for a mortgage, and I was annoyed by it because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, damn it, I got to unfreeze and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>So now that I'm not shopping for a mortgage, I did.

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<v Speaker 3>You can thaw it, and then it's just annoying because

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<v Speaker 3>you have to like thaw it at the bureaus where

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<v Speaker 3>your loan, your lender is gonna request to chut it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but I think it's totally worth it because

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<v Speaker 3>why wouldn't you want to have that extra layer of protection,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because like even opening a cell phone, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't do that if you have a credit freeze nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So a credit freeze to me is if you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're not getting anything for a while and something like

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<v Speaker 2>this has happened, you can freeze just to stop any activity.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just say your stuff is in a dark web,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm freezing it for the next two months, no one

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna and then after that, if you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>the issue, like Mandy said, the thaw and freeze, saw

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<v Speaker 2>and freeze, you can get like a LifeLock or some

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<v Speaker 2>similar type of company where before anything happens, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the text or the call.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to prove. And so those two things.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, since then, you know, Jirell's identity stopped being stolen,

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<v Speaker 2>and I never had my identity stolen. But I signed

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<v Speaker 2>up because I was like, well, we're here now, because

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<v Speaker 2>you could do like a family plan, and so my

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<v Speaker 2>identity has never been stolen, which is you know there have.

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<v Speaker 1>Been things on there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, I don't recognize this, and I realized, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the company sometimes has a different working name than a

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<v Speaker 2>doing business name.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, ah, that was me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I've been there. I'm like, I would never

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<v Speaker 3>spend that much. Meanwhile, it's like, yeah, the little those

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<v Speaker 3>four am Instagram scrolls they always get me with their kids'

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<v Speaker 3>shoes ads. Oh man, what else do I was, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>there's something else? So oh, A friend of a friend

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<v Speaker 3>recently lost eight thousand dollars right before Christmas, right before

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<v Speaker 3>the holiday season, through like it was a phone called

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<v Speaker 3>tech scam. And so it started with text messages from

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<v Speaker 3>her bank. Was City Bank texting her and it looked

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<v Speaker 3>really legit, and then they escalated to calling her and

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<v Speaker 3>we're so convincing that she ended up giving her account

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<v Speaker 3>information over the phone, and then they drained her not hurt,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was her checking account, which is really painful,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because with your checking account it's sometimes harder

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<v Speaker 3>to get those funds back. And it was a zell or. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't give them account information, she zelled them. She

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<v Speaker 3>zeld them. And if you guys know anything about Zell,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the pieces of controversy is that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you go through these steps when you send a transfer

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<v Speaker 3>where they're like, be sure you know this person, because

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't, we are not covering you. Because if

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<v Speaker 3>it's you who hits the submit button and you know

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<v Speaker 3>what you're doing, like, we are not libable libable, we're

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<v Speaker 3>not liable for funds that you lose. So she was

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's still fighting to maybe get that eight

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<v Speaker 3>grand back. But she's like a single mom, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of money to lose. So if they're

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<v Speaker 3>asking you for zell, you deserve to be asking for

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<v Speaker 3>every ounce of proof, and banks probably will not be

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<v Speaker 3>doing that. I would just say that first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she ended up I think something struck her

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<v Speaker 3>as odd. And then she called City herself, and they

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<v Speaker 3>were like, oh no, oh no. So if they're if

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying that they're from City, don't bother about inconveniencing them, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry about that, you know, hang up, say cool,

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<v Speaker 3>you can call me back before they want this eight

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<v Speaker 3>grand and call your own number directly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the key.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the women that we know, I think her

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<v Speaker 2>name is Shannon she lost her house down payment because

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<v Speaker 2>they have the scam where you know, when you make

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<v Speaker 2>the transfer, like the wire transfer when you're purchasing at home,

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<v Speaker 2>and so what they'll do is they'll you're they'll send

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<v Speaker 2>you a fake bank like, hey, I know, we said

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<v Speaker 2>this is the wire number. This is actually the updated

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<v Speaker 2>wire number. She did not know because it looked official.

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<v Speaker 2>Because what they do is they like mimic what your

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<v Speaker 2>bank sends, and she sent it, and wires are notorious

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<v Speaker 2>that once it's gone, is gone. They had me social

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I bought my house cash five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That can't go to the wrong person. So what I

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<v Speaker 1>did was I'm mosy my way on down to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bank and said look me in there, and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>we did the wire on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so the key with that is always, always always.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't call the number that was on the paper

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<v Speaker 2>and we're making the transfer if I think I had

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<v Speaker 2>the money and like Ally or something like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was transferred to like their bank was like Wells

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<v Speaker 2>farg or whatever that like I call, I go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Ally website and called that number there.

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<v Speaker 1>I never the key with anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes somebody is telling you something financial, even if it

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<v Speaker 2>seems up to I don't, like, I want to hang up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just gonna call back because I'd rather call

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<v Speaker 2>back the official number so I know for sure that like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is who I'm speaking to, versus like who is this?

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<v Speaker 2>So that was key I was, but I was still

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<v Speaker 2>nervous because you know, you just you just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you never know, you never know. So thankfully, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it all worked out, because that would have been

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<v Speaker 2>like you would have seen a weeping willow of a tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>like I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>And when it's wired and it's gone, you know, Canaries

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, some other country and you can't get

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<v Speaker 3>that back. Man, what else? Two factor authentication is huge,

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<v Speaker 3>or any accounts that you have, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you break into my Gmail, you have my life, you

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<v Speaker 3>know everything about me. So two factor authentication, these these

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<v Speaker 3>basic practices. But I'm glad at least that your like

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<v Speaker 3>spidey sense has perked up enough to ask, because that

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<v Speaker 3>is wild and credit monitoring you can I think she said,

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<v Speaker 3>what did she ask? Is credit thought she has something

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<v Speaker 3>about a credit card. Maybe that's the next question. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>with your credit card. It's smarter to just, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in general, buy big things with your credit card or

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<v Speaker 3>or use your credit card for most purchases if you

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<v Speaker 3>know you can do that responsibly because you do have

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<v Speaker 3>Most credit cards offer zero dollar fraud liability, so if

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<v Speaker 3>there is fraud and it's on your credit card, then

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<v Speaker 3>they will cover it, you know, no questions ask, Whereas

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<v Speaker 3>with your debit card, some of them have limits on

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<v Speaker 3>how much they'll cover or limits on you have to

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<v Speaker 3>catch it and poured it within a certain time frame

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<v Speaker 3>like thirty to sixty days, and if you don't, then

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<v Speaker 3>there's less of a chance that they'll be able to

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<v Speaker 3>recover the funds for you. So that's why there's like

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a case for using credit versus debit

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<v Speaker 3>for any big, you know, purchases and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, stay stay vigilant, y'all, stay woke. Two factor authenticate,

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<v Speaker 3>look up the email addresses, call them directly. That's our

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<v Speaker 3>last that's a good summary, summarized summarration. I can't talk summation,

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<v Speaker 3>recap of our of our of our advice. We're really

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<v Speaker 3>really smart, trust us. Okay, cool, let's take a break.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I'm gonna get the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>Mannis stop, get down, we take a break, Russa, pay

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<v Speaker 2>some bills and be right back in black.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the next question? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, This comes from listener Jelisa Jalsa says, Hey, Tiffany, Amandra.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope it's okay to call you Mandra. Yes, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>I love you both so much. My name is Jalisa,

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<v Speaker 3>like Jalisa from a different Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I first let me say I love Love Love the documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure she's talking about Tiffany's documentary. Was it called again?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm get Smart form plenty, get.

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<v Speaker 3>Smart with Money. And Arianna, who was Tiffany's mentee, is

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<v Speaker 3>me I need some advice from my financial girlfriends. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's going to be a long one, Julisa, We've

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<v Speaker 3>seen longer, but it's okay. I'm a little over ten

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<v Speaker 3>k in debt. It's a mix of credit and a

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<v Speaker 3>credit card, IRS and a personal loan. Before researching, I

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<v Speaker 3>opened a BT a BT credit card and was approved

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<v Speaker 3>for eighty five hundred dollars zero percent interest for eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>months with a three percent balance transfer fee. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>aware that you cannot transfer debt from one account to

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<v Speaker 3>another within the same bank.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Important.

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<v Speaker 3>I work a part time job that gives me an

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<v Speaker 3>extra four to sixty seven a month, and my full

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<v Speaker 3>time job gives me an extra two hundred dollars a

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<v Speaker 3>month after bills have been paid. My question is should

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<v Speaker 3>I put everything except the one credit card on the beat?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I know what BT is? Balance transfer? I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 3>bank is BT? I'm caught up. Now Should I put

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<v Speaker 3>everything except one credit card onto the balance transfer credit

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<v Speaker 3>card and work on paying them both down? Or go

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<v Speaker 3>back to the basics and use the debt snowball method?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for all you do. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>she has ten k in debt. It's a mix of

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<v Speaker 3>credit card IRS, personal loan. She has gotten approved for

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<v Speaker 3>up to eighty five hundred dollars on the zero percent

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<v Speaker 3>balance transfer card. Okay, she's not going to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to transfer all of that because some of it comes

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<v Speaker 3>from the same bank. This is very important. Tell them

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<v Speaker 3>about it, Tiff. The whole balance transfer thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So, balance transfers are when you have, like ideal you

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<v Speaker 2>have one card that the interest rate you're paying interest

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<v Speaker 2>on it, and the ideal situation is that you get

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<v Speaker 2>another card that I can cover what you are on

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<v Speaker 2>the first card, but they give you no interest payments

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<v Speaker 2>for ideally more than a year, So her credit score

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<v Speaker 2>must be pretty decent. They gave her eighteen months because

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<v Speaker 2>that's like one of the highest that you can get.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what I had gotten when I

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<v Speaker 2>made my balance transfer, which is great, which means let's

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<v Speaker 2>just pretend like she was able, like you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>math is easy. Where she owed ten thousand on this

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<v Speaker 2>one card and a different bank, and she has a

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<v Speaker 2>balanced transfer card of eighty five hundred. She makes the

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<v Speaker 2>transfer over to the eighty five hundred. Some of it

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<v Speaker 2>will still stay on the old car, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen hundred or whatever left, but now she can every

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<v Speaker 2>sense that she gives to the new card actually goes

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<v Speaker 2>to the money owed. So that's the benefit. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to get that. You know, remember my

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<v Speaker 2>my friend who's in jail now, who you know? I had,

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<v Speaker 2>the jake, the thief who oh he's a child. Well

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<v Speaker 2>he was in jail temporarily. I don't know IF's still

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<v Speaker 2>in jail, let's hope. So he left me thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars in credit card debt and how I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to pay it off is I got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of balanced transfer cards and transfer the thirty five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>to those cards so I can focus on just paying

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<v Speaker 2>the principle, not the principle and the fees and the interest,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And it took me about three years to

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<v Speaker 2>do so. So one, you're you know, you're in pretty

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<v Speaker 2>decent shape to start.

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<v Speaker 3>But what the thing is like you have to be

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<v Speaker 3>careful because like her, yes, you may not know you

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<v Speaker 3>can't transfer money from this, like you can't get a

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<v Speaker 3>Chase balance transfer card and transfer money from another Chase card.

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<v Speaker 3>Banks use this as a tool to get new business.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want your old business, Like are your old

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<v Speaker 3>news girl? We got you for twenty three point nine

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<v Speaker 3>to nine apl already, We're not going to give you

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<v Speaker 3>zero percent. No, but Wells Fargo, but Bank of America,

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<v Speaker 3>these other banks they will offer. So you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be careful to think ahead. Okay, you want to apply

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<v Speaker 3>for BT at a totally different issue or a totally

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<v Speaker 3>different bank.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry to interrupt, No, no, so I just so if

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<v Speaker 2>it was me, because it was me, I would transfer. Well. One,

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<v Speaker 2>be careful with balance tress for cards too, because sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the eighteen months you have not

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<v Speaker 2>paid it off, it not only jumps to whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>new interest rate is, but all the interests might come

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<v Speaker 2>due from the very beginning. So be careful, careful, careful,

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<v Speaker 2>Ja Lisa, Like, what are the terms? Because mine was

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<v Speaker 2>one of those. So I said, Tippany, I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>what you do, Sis, you got to get this money

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<v Speaker 2>off this card in the eighteen months that they've given you,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're not going to owe. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>owe the twenty percent on like the balance that's left over.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to owe the twenty percent on the original

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<v Speaker 2>balance you transferred over, which is sempre.

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<v Speaker 1>So be careful of that too.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would honestly transfer over all that I could

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<v Speaker 2>and then pay my zero percent interest. I would make

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<v Speaker 2>that card the priority. I would still do the snowball method,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would make that, you know that the priority

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<v Speaker 2>to pay down and pay off as quickly as possible,

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<v Speaker 2>since all your money is going directly to what you owe.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would ask myself, only transfer over what I

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<v Speaker 2>know I could pay off in eighteen months, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>so like.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to the math because I was one.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, go ahead, girl, do that math mind if

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<v Speaker 1>I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Illow me so eighty five hundred over eighteen months, that's

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<v Speaker 3>four seventy two a month. So you have almost exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what you need from your part time job to make

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<v Speaker 3>that a priority and pay it down. But the key

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<v Speaker 3>is if you let one month go by, then it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to get more expensive and more expensive. And you

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<v Speaker 3>and I have been there. I got a balance transfer

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<v Speaker 3>credit card for more than that, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>whoo who I didn't think I didn't use the whole balance,

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<v Speaker 3>But then it feels like a place you can put

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<v Speaker 3>things because it's zero percent, and then before you know it,

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<v Speaker 3>you just rack up more and more. So it's and

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<v Speaker 3>even for me, I know better. You know it got

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<v Speaker 3>a little got a little hairy. So you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be super disciplined, like immediately set up that auto payment

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<v Speaker 3>so that you're not winding up eighteen months from now,

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<v Speaker 3>because it'll sneak up on you, like Tiffany said, with

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<v Speaker 3>a balance, because imagine if you even had like one

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<v Speaker 3>dollar and then they're like, yeah, morel we'll take that

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<v Speaker 3>twenty something percent of eighty five hundred and add it

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<v Speaker 3>on and we'll keep you forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Well, what you could do is this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You could do another balance transfer like a month before

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<v Speaker 2>for that like that, that would be the worst case scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>If you still say, like a thousand hours that you

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<v Speaker 2>just don't have it, you could say, hold up, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to do another balanced transfer knowing that I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>actually going to have it to get yourself out of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't want to be jumping, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from balance transfer card to balance transfer card. But that

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely like for those of you who are listening

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<v Speaker 2>who are like, uh haha, I'm in that position where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I thought I was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a paid off, I'm not. Then, you know, look for

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<v Speaker 2>your This is why keeping your credit score decent is

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<v Speaker 2>so critical because that's going to dictate how good of

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<v Speaker 2>terms you're going to get with your balanced transfer card.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, anything else? I mean she

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<v Speaker 3>said to say she has a mix of credit between

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<v Speaker 3>her credit card IRS and a personal loan. I would

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<v Speaker 3>feel like the personal loan probably isn't that high of

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<v Speaker 3>an interest, so definitely, like TIF said back, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>use it for your credit card debt first. And foremost

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<v Speaker 3>and kind of treat it like if you have extra

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<v Speaker 3>room after you add the credit card debt, then add

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<v Speaker 3>you know, either the IRS debt or the personal loan.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you wait, you can't transfer IRS debt? How does

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<v Speaker 3>that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Charge? I think you would charge it. You would have

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<v Speaker 2>to call your the credit card company like is it

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<v Speaker 2>a roll over or do you just charge it?

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, because with with balance transfers, I remember you

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<v Speaker 3>have to tell them how much from your bank, your

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<v Speaker 3>how much from your credit card you're transferring, what the

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<v Speaker 3>bank name is, and your account, and then they'll go

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<v Speaker 3>and grab it. I don't even think that I RS

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<v Speaker 3>would qualify unless you just use Yeah, unless you just

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<v Speaker 3>pay what with your credit card? And then that's another

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<v Speaker 3>three percent processing fee. Probably the IRS probably charge charges

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<v Speaker 3>of processing fee. Yeah, not to really be careful about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing, Like I think the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you take away from this is that even when

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<v Speaker 2>you're like planning on doing good things, there's map it

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<v Speaker 2>out on paper, like okay, balance transfer, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>happens if I don't pay it after eighteen months?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I used to literally have a notebook for like

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of choices, can I do this? Let me

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<v Speaker 1>call the company see if I can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that way before I make the move of like

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<v Speaker 2>doing something that's going to put a little ding on

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<v Speaker 2>my credit card, I can decide this actually makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So certainly, j Lisa, we're proud of you for taking steps.

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<v Speaker 2>But just know, moving forward, as you have these questions,

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<v Speaker 2>what's so great is that you can ask the balance

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<v Speaker 2>strengthsfer card people whomever you know, like, here are my

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<v Speaker 2>questions I can decide doesn't even make sense to make

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<v Speaker 2>to make this decision, you know, just moving forward, but

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<v Speaker 2>these are questions you can still ask to make the

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<v Speaker 2>best choice of what money should go on their card and.

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<v Speaker 3>Have absolutely But thank you so so much to Lisa.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of want to call you KAlSi, but Julisa

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<v Speaker 3>will do no, heir.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember a Different World that used to be my

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<v Speaker 2>girlj Lisa. Remember she used to date Sindbad that was

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<v Speaker 2>her boyfriend on I.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch a Different World like that, which one waster Lisa

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<v Speaker 3>Lisa was?

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<v Speaker 2>She wasn't I'm trying to think was she in the

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<v Speaker 2>later episodes? I feel like I think so anyway, she

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like the ra. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember she had like shortthir okay, she was a

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<v Speaker 2>phone one to go back and rewatch as an adult

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<v Speaker 2>because I love watching Living Single as an adult.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so fun and you to go back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe when I'm up all night with a toddler with

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<v Speaker 3>a newborn and a dollars. All right, Lisa and everyone else,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for your questions this week. Again,

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