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Speaker 1: Welcome to No Duncks. Wherever you're listening or watching, whether

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Speaker 1: here on YouTube, we really appreciate it, especially while we're

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Speaker 1: undergoing studio renovations. We really really appreciate it. I'm Tasmelice.

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Speaker 1: I guess during EuroBasket, I'm Tasos mylass with me. It's

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Speaker 1: the man in the middle, Trey Kirby heyl a Trey.

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Speaker 1: If I were doing a EuroBasket show today, Uh oh,

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Speaker 1: there's an.

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Speaker 2: NBA podcast in our EuroBasket podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so much stuff going on, so we had to

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Speaker 1: go that route. Should we just jump in?

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Speaker 2: You know, I love to do a sea ball task,

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Speaker 2: So let me step to the edge of the diving

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Speaker 2: board and plunge in deep.

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Speaker 1: We are plunging because there was a report yesterday that

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Speaker 1: turned them NBA blog isphere just upside down because the

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Speaker 1: Clippers are reportedly circumventing the salary cap by paying Kawhi

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Speaker 1: Leonard a secret amount of money over the last few years. Now.

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Speaker 1: This report was really produced by Pabulatory finds Out, the podcast,

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Speaker 1: which did some serious work because it's kind of convoluted

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Speaker 1: and especially after hearing today all the backwork that Kawhi

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Speaker 1: was trying to get more money from the raptors. At

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Anyway, just to summarize briefly before we jump in,

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Speaker 1: this tree planting company, Aspiration, signed a deal with not

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Speaker 1: only Kawhi Leonard, but also with Steve Baumber. Steve Baumber

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Speaker 1: paying money to this company, money being channeled to Kawhi Leonard,

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Speaker 1: specifically a twenty eight million dollar endorsement deal from this

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Speaker 1: now bankrupt company, and Kahi Leonard didn't have to do

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Speaker 1: a thing for it, as Pablo interviewed a bunch of

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Speaker 1: people who said, quote, he had to do nothing, and

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Speaker 1: you can hear them on the podcast, which is while

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Speaker 1: this company filed for bankruptcy earlier this year and its

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Speaker 1: co founder Joe Sandberg was arrested on fraud charges. So hello,

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Speaker 1: some serious stuff. Will they be penalized, that is the question.

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Speaker 1: The Clippers then released a statement both to Pablo directly

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Speaker 1: before the podcast came out and after the podcast came out,

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Speaker 1: basically saying, to summarize, we did nothing wrong. You know,

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Speaker 1: Bomber invested in this company because they were committed to

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Speaker 1: reducing the world carbon's footprint, and you see that guy

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Speaker 1: who just committed fraud while he stole money from so

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Speaker 1: many people. So it ain't bomber. But what this is

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Speaker 1: definitely reporting to be is a bomber to as aspiration

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Speaker 1: to Kawhi. Now the league is investigating, and here we

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Speaker 1: are Trey. Will they be penalized? What to make of

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Speaker 1: all this?

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Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a long lasting story. Task.

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Speaker 2: We had one of the most boring months in the

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Speaker 2: and then a straight up September bombshell alert. It feels

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Speaker 2: like huge news. This is just the beginning of the story.

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Speaker 2: We're getting Pablos reporting. We're getting some additional reporting from

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Speaker 2: John Corralis at the Boston Sports Journal that this payment

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Speaker 2: plan could reach closer to like forty eight million dollars

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Speaker 2: because Kawhi has had stock options in this company. I

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Speaker 2: suppose that plays into the to everything. We had the

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Speaker 2: Clippers denying everything, and we have the NBA saying we

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Speaker 2: are going to have to investigate this. They did some

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Speaker 2: investigations into Kawhi Leonard joining the Clippers back when it happened,

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Speaker 2: because the Raptors were complaining that Uncle Dennis was asking

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Speaker 2: for stuff outside of the CBA. The Lakers were saying

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Speaker 2: So this was at least in the ether around the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Now a few years later, we're finding out that the

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Speaker 2: denying everything at this point because they can. It's unlikely

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Speaker 2: that we'll find an email from Steve Balmer saying pay

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard an extra twenty eight million dollars specifically to

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Speaker 2: optics of it are terrible. It looks like Steve Bamber

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Speaker 2: dollars to go into the pockets of Kawhi Leonard throughout

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Speaker 2: the course of the deal, the deal, which by the way,

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Speaker 2: only counts if Kawhi stays a member of the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: I think the no show aspect and having his his

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Speaker 2: contracts tied to his Clippers contract, those, to me are

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Speaker 2: like the biggest things that we're gonna have to hear

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Speaker 2: this is going to be a huge question mark because

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Speaker 1: That part that you mentioned that it is directly tied

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Speaker 1: it must be a scenario where Kawhi is getting paid

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Speaker 1: but he basically saying, listen, I'm looking at this document.

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Speaker 1: This is incredible. They don't have this sort of secondary

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Speaker 1: it's it's apples to apples, like the money is going

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Speaker 1: directly to Kawhi and then you hear about this. Also,

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Speaker 1: this company that Kawhi Leonard started literally started the KL

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Speaker 1: two Aspire come at LLC. Now it's called Aspire, and

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Speaker 1: the company that planted these trees, if they planted any trees,

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Speaker 1: it was called Aspiration. I mean, come on, and he

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Speaker 1: it just it feels it feels odd, especially because Steve

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Speaker 1: Bomber had to know what was going on with this company, which,

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Speaker 1: as I said, is bankrupt. It's co founder arrested on

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Speaker 1: so the company was kind of bogus. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure as Pablo said, he didn't have to do anything.

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Speaker 1: He really, as you said, like he called it a

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Speaker 1: and because everybody was was tweeting out some things yesterday.

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Speaker 1: There was a tweet from the Los Angeles Clippers in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two that said, for every comment slash retweet,

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Speaker 1: Aspiration will plant one tree for Kawhi's birthday. Happy Birthday, Kawhi.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that Kawhi doing anything? Nah, he didn't

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Speaker 1: with it. So there's really no tie in, and I

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Speaker 1: mean there's the Uncle Dennis tie in. It just feels

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like there are going to be a

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Speaker 2: few big questions to be answered before the NBA really

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Speaker 2: what did the Clippers slash Steve Balmer? No going into

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Speaker 2: the investment into Aspiration or whatever the name of the

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Speaker 2: business actually is. That's unbelievable that they named Kawhi's LLC

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Speaker 2: KL two Aspire. You've seen the wire. Don't take notes

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Speaker 2: on a criminal conspiracy and don't name your LLC after

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Speaker 2: like the second part of that, But also what can

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Speaker 2: the NBA prove that the Clippers knew and what sort

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Speaker 2: Aspiration decided to use their money. I think others have

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Speaker 2: said that having a sponsor have the player's endorsement tied

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Speaker 2: to their contract isn't super unusual. There are similar sort

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Speaker 2: same jersey sponsor that the Celtics wear. That kind of

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Speaker 2: thing does happen, But Jason Tatum is making appearances for

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Speaker 2: then the question becomes what kind of punishment does all

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Speaker 2: of that lead up to and how much are the

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Speaker 2: other owners going to be pushing for this right because

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Speaker 2: that the Clippers and Steve Balmer have tried to circumvent

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Speaker 2: don't want you to looking into every one of our

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Speaker 2: Apparently he sat down and talked with Pablo about this

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Speaker 2: guess part two soon come. But also Pablo says he's

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be like, Okay, so where's he making it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially smaller markets, smaller organizations who may not be

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Speaker 1: So those organizations will definitely have those questions. I just

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Speaker 1: So where do you think we are in that gamut?

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Speaker 1: How far can the league go or does it sort

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Speaker 1: of depend on the details.

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Speaker 2: It's going to one hundred percent depend on the details.

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Speaker 2: I think when it comes to the Timberwolves, Joe Smith case,

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Speaker 2: with him signing one year deals until he was able

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Speaker 2: to get to a bigger deal. So if the Clippers

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Speaker 2: maybe they're able to have some sort of plausible deniability

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Speaker 2: and their penalty is lesser than losing five first round picks.

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Speaker 2: But I assume they'll get at the very least a

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Speaker 2: It's all going to depend on what Adam Silver and

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Speaker 2: the rest of the crew can show just how much

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Speaker 2: Steve Balmer and the rest of the Clippers were actually

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Speaker 2: then they're going to get probably the stiffest possible penalty

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Speaker 1: It's just phenomenal seeing Kawhi, who is the cowietist guy

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Speaker 1: or an Instagram post or a Blue Sky post. Not one.

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Speaker 2: He's like the number one guy you would expect to

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Speaker 2: not say anything. He doesn't say anything period. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a perfect guy from this plan. Actually, except for Uncle

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Speaker 2: Dennis went and asked every other team for the.

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Speaker 1: Same thing, right right, and of course to investigations years ago,

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Speaker 1: Well are going to play them? Well, I guess what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's a low amount for a guy

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Speaker 2: Josh Guiney because there's another potential place he could go now,

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Speaker 2: same with Jonathan Kminga. There's actually a tiny bit of

433
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Speaker 2: cap space now in Brooklyn. So maybe the other restricted

434
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Speaker 2: pre agents get done now that this deal is done.

435
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: But Cam Thomas has to prove that he can do

436
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: anything else besides get his own shot, and if he

437
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: can do that, then he'll get paid more next summer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Jonathan Kaminga is trying to show us

439
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: with his off season workouts. Look at me, I can

440
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: pass the ball. Now, they're not the exact same player,

441
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: but there is some similarities to Kuminga and Cam Thomas.

442
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: So yes, we see sometime here. I can't believe it's

443
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Speaker 1: September and Kuminga and specifically in Giddy, who was having

444
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: such a good season. It is surprising right that Josh

445
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: Giddy isn't inked to so much.

446
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Speaker 2: Well, apparently the Bulls have raised the offer to him.

447
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 2: He was getting a twenty million dollars per year off

448
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: or now it's up to twenty two. This probably will

449
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: get done sooner rather than later. I think the Kaminga

450
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: thing is more of a question. But we've seen Kaminga

451
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: be a scorer in the playoffs. At the very least,

452
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: Josh Giddy was a starter for the entire season on

453
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Speaker 2: a number one seed, in the Western Conference, we've seen

454
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Speaker 2: him play for at least a decent team and contribute.

455
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Speaker 2: We haven't seen that from the Brooklyn Nets and cam Thomas.

456
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Speaker 2: But I think that's kind of fine for them. They're

457
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Speaker 2: getting him. They had all the leverage here and they

458
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 2: used it the way they wanted to. I think he's

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Speaker 2: actually trade bait. I think a team could convince themselves

460
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Speaker 2: to trade a second round pick for cam Thomas and

461
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: six million dollars. You can find that kind of player

462
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Speaker 2: on your roster basically anywhere, like the Bucks maybe could

463
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Speaker 2: be a team that would be interested in cam Thomas.

464
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I just think it's interesting to

465
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: take such a big discount because there were apparently other

466
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Speaker 2: deals that were offered to cam Thomas for more money.

467
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Speaker 2: But he isn't really wanted in Brooklyn, and it doesn't

468
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Speaker 2: seem like he wants to be in Brooklyn, So maybe

469
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: this is his quickest and easiest way out. And from

470
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Speaker 2: the next perspective, they're trying to lose this year. I

471
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Speaker 2: think they're going to be the worst team in the

472
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Speaker 2: league and pretty good guy to have leading the charge

473
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Speaker 2: if that's your goal.

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Speaker 1: This is true. Along with Michael Porter, Junior, Nick Claxon,

475
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Speaker 1: and Terrence Mann. Those are the guys who are getting

476
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Speaker 1: paid on that team. It is interesting as now still

477
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: the lowest salary in the league as far as team goes.

478
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Speaker 1: But they didn't want to pay him anymore. Number one,

479
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: they didn't want to sign too a long term deal.

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Speaker 1: They're willing to take Michael Porter Junior in his big

481
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Speaker 1: contract this year and next year because they got a

482
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Speaker 1: first round pick from Denver along with it. And here

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Speaker 1: they are. You're right, they're going to be a pretty

484
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Speaker 1: bad next season. All right, let's move on to why

485
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Speaker 1: we planned on doing a show today. Because the EuroBaskets

486
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Speaker 1: preliminary round, group stage, first round, whatever you call it,

487
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: it's over now we're moving on to the elimination round.

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Speaker 1: So let's take a look at the bracket. Sixteen teams Rain. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: we got a fun one here, fun one from EuroBasket.

490
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: A circular bracket. You don't see this too odd.

491
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Speaker 2: I didn't even know you could do that.

492
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Speaker 1: Things they are different outside of America. So just to

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Speaker 1: fly through what we're going to see this weekend on

494
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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday, We've got four games on Saturday, four

495
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Speaker 1: games on Sunday, it'll be Lithuania, Lithuania, Latvia, Greece, Israel, Turkey, Sweden,

496
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Speaker 1: Poland versus Bosnia and Herzegovina, Germany, Portugal, Italy, Slovenia, Serbia, Finland,

497
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Speaker 1: France versus Georgia. Now let's look at what happened how

498
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Speaker 1: we got here. The Group A was super super interesting

499
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: because they had Serbia in it and they were supposed

500
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Speaker 1: to be favorites for this entire tournament, but they look

501
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: so different now. Turkey beat them in one game. So

502
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Speaker 1: Turkey goes five and oh they win the division. Serbia

503
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: goes four to one, Latvia three and two, Portugal two

504
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: and three. Those four teams advanced, while Estonia and Chechia

505
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Speaker 1: do not. The Turkey beating Serbia to wrap up this

506
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Speaker 1: this round was fun. I mean shng Goon versus Jokic

507
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Speaker 1: was freaking awesome.

508
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was super cool. I saw on EuroBaskets Twitter

509
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: page they put out just the highlight tape of the

510
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: two of them going against each other and they said,

511
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: not baby Jokic, call him daddy Shngon. I don't think

512
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Speaker 2: I'm ever gonna do that, but the dude was straight

513
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: up balling in this game. Twenty eight to thirteen and

514
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: eight for shng Gun, twenty two to nine and four

515
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: for Jokic. Sheng Gun was taking it to him and

516
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: like he was saying, it was an honor to go

517
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Speaker 2: against the best player in the world, the guy that

518
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: he clearly models his game after. And both sheng Goon

519
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: and Yokic are just perfectly made for the FOBA game.

520
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: Not that they're not dominant players in the NBA as well,

521
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Speaker 2: but they just are so awesome to watch playing for

522
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: their national teams. Turkey is impressive outside of Germany. I

523
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Speaker 2: think they've been the best team there. Germany like stomped

524
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Speaker 2: through their field. They didn't really have much competition. Obviously,

525
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: Turkey had a harder path going up against the favorites

526
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Speaker 2: in Serbia, but once Bogdanovich went down with a torn hamstring,

527
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Speaker 2: I feel like that cracked the door open a little

528
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: bit for Turkey. I would not be surprised. I honestly

529
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Speaker 2: don't know which side of the bracket they're on. Looking

530
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Speaker 2: at the circle, I don't know which quad they're on,

531
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Speaker 2: but I could very easily see Turkey making it to

532
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Speaker 2: the finals. They are clicking, they look huge, and Sheng

533
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Speaker 2: Goon is playing on another level right now.

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Speaker 1: They are on the best, better side of the bracket.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt because now Serbia, Germany and France, the

536
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Speaker 1: three teams that were likely favored to win all three medals,

537
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Speaker 1: are on one side of the bracket, while Turkey's hanging

538
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Speaker 1: with Lithuana Lithuania. I can never say Lithuania. Maybe I

539
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: gotta say Latouva instead. Lithuania, Latvia, Greece, Israel, Sweden, Poland

540
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: and Bossian Herzegovina on their side of the brackets, so

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Speaker 1: they got a way better path now. I talked about

542
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Speaker 1: them likely being the bronze medal favorite after one game,

543
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Speaker 1: I said, France does. They're good, They're deep, but I

544
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Speaker 1: started to feel Turkey was better and that's and I

545
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Speaker 1: thought I was being bold saying that. But now it

546
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Speaker 1: feels like, yes, just the way the brackets have fallen,

547
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Speaker 1: it looks like they can get to the finals. You

548
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: could see Shangunda definitely wanted it a little bit more

549
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: on the Turkey side, that entire team wanted more against Serbia.

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Speaker 1: Serbia doesn't look right, they don't look like themselves. You

551
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: mentioned bug Dow MacDonald. She's out for the tournament. And

552
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: then Avramovic. We always see that guy in international competitions,

553
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: the old left. He comes in and helps out. He

554
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: got hurt and he was out the second half. So

555
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: there was a lot of guys that weren't right, even Vasamichich,

556
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: who's leaving the NBA. He's been injured and he was

557
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: kind of on a bike for a lot of the game.

558
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: Then he got into it in the fourth quarter and

559
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: he stepped in for stefan Jovic and probably shouldn't have

560
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: been there with really bad turnover. They're trying to get

561
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: him going here and get over his injury. So it

562
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: looks weird, and I think serbody just knows it ain't right.

563
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if Jokic feels like, whoa, this is

564
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: like playing with the Denver Nuggets. I don't have enough

565
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: help it. It feels that way. And he dropped like

566
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Speaker 1: thirty nine versus Latvia in the first round, and still

567
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: here they're here and they're ain't They're just not themselves,

568
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: So it doesn't feel like doesn't feel like they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get super duper far. Now. They got to play Finland

570
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: in the next so they're going to go five out.

571
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: They play Market in at the five and I heard

572
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: the guys on the DMVR podcast say, you know what,

573
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, Serbia won every single game in

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Speaker 1: the first round. Then they got to the round of

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Speaker 1: sixteen and they lost to Italy who had shooters, and

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Speaker 1: they compared it to Finland. So I will be interested

577
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: to see how they try and guard on the perimeter.

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00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: But it's it is different. You know. When we did

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Speaker 1: this show a week ago, we thought Serbia Germany, as

580
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: you mentioned, who's been rolling those two teams, seem like

581
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: they would be destined for the final, but it ain't

582
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: happening because they're on the same side of the bracket.

583
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: Weird stuff. Also in this group, I know you love

584
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: that Portugal Estonia game because it was pretty fun, and.

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Speaker 2: I was telling everybody I know that I love that

586
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: Portugal est I thought it was overtasks when the miyash

587
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Keita picked up his second technical foul and they said

588
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: get out of here, I thought there's no way the

589
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: Portuguese team could do that. But thanks to Liz Boa

590
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: and making big shots and big plays plus seventeen threes Portugal,

591
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: this was a fun game. It was also killing me

592
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: that there was a guy on Estonia, whose last name

593
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: is tass tv SS. They kept saying it, but back

594
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: and forth all game ended up being a nice win

595
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: for Portugal to advance eighty nine eighty three. Afterwards, one

596
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: commentator said to the other, you always say every game

597
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: is like a melon. What kind of melon is this one?

598
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: And the play by play guy was kind of stunned

599
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 2: to be asked that question. And every play it's like,

600
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: it's like a big, sweet water melon, and it was.

601
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: It was a delicious, tasty game down to the last drop.

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00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: Well, so there are only like three types of games.

603
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: I know there's more melon than three, but for me,

604
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a honey dude, it's candalope, or

605
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: it's a watermelon.

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00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: Those are the big three.

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00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. So Portugal gets through. I can't believe

608
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: Cato was ejected. It was so strange. He yelled after

609
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: dunking and the referee right in front of him on

610
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: the baseline didn't kick him out. The guy on the

611
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: sideline waited to beat, waited to beat and said, you

612
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: know what, you can't yell, you're out of here. That's

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00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: the point where and I don't feel so bad for

614
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: NBA or I do feel bad, I should say for

615
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: NBA referees, there's there's just no winning. It's just hard

616
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: and they're just bad around the world at times, and

617
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: sometimes guys get ejected for no reason. Anyway, Portugal is through.

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00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: They got to play Germany, so that's gonna be tough

619
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: in the next round. But it is interesting to see

620
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Latvia get through and they get to go play at home.

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Speaker 1: This next round, every single game will be played in

622
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Speaker 1: the same arena in Latvia, so they're going to be

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00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: playing at home against Lithuania that also don't look like themselves.

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Speaker 1: In just a note on Latvia, because I was interested

625
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: to see Kristaps Porzingis and what he looks like compared

626
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: to last year. He does not look like the same guy.

627
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: He looks a lot more normal, a lot more Christaps like.

628
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he was having some fun out there. He

629
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: was in a pick and where he was playing a

630
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: one man game. He did a step back through his

631
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: own legs and then you know, it didn't really get

632
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: rid of the defender, so he stepped back again and

633
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: he missed the shot. But he still looks like the

634
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: old Kristaps. He was even playing defense. He kicked his

635
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: leg out and that's when the broadcasters said, well, we

636
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: extended his leg like he's a handball defender. Sure, but anyways,

637
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: he looks better. Lat fiad Lithuania will be interesting to see.

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00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Group B where Lithuania is a

639
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: part of this group. They finished second to Germany, who

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00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: is five and zero. They look awesome. They are definitely

641
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: the tournament favorite. Lithuania finished second, Finland third. Sweden gets

642
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: through at one in four crazy they get through to

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00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: the next round, while Montenegro and Great Britain do not advance.

644
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Montenegro doesn't advance, Vucevich does not get through Trey.

645
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: It's over. Vouch Mode was on for a little bit,

646
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: thirty one points and rebounds, seven assists. This guy was

647
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: carrying Montenegro against Great Britain, but then vuch Mode was off.

648
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: Great Britain gets their first win in EuroBasket in twelve years,

649
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: and vuch immediately retired from international competition. He's like, hey,

650
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: if we can't beat Britain, I'm out of here. I'm

651
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: thirty five years old. It ain't happen. You're not gonna

652
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: see me go and skull a Mode out there all

653
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: great but really cool win for Great Britain. Hessen't had

654
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: twenty five, Yeaboa had twenty three. They were making a

655
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: bunch of shots. This was just a pretty brutal loss,

656
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: I thought for Montenegro, considering they had the best player

657
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: on the court in Vucivich. I know they got some

658
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: other guys who have like had a cup of coffee

659
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: in the NBA, but yeah, not great for them. Germany

660
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: though dominant in this group. They won their games by

661
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: thirty three twenty two nineteen sixty three against Great Britain

662
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: and then thirty in their final game, So yeah, they

663
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: haven't really had a challenge yet. It'll be interesting to

664
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: see who they who they're taking on in this bracketter.

665
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got Portugal coming up and then the winner

666
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: of Italy Slovenia as their quarterfinal game, and then that

667
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: would be potentially Serbia or France in the semifinals. Yes, yeah,

668
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: they are. They are absolutely rolling. They got too many guys.

669
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: Even Tristan de Silva is looking good for them, along

670
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: with your Franz, your tye, your ohst. I love how

671
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: everybody's telling us how to pronounce ohst. However it is

672
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: I could be wrong your bongas your your Schroeder floater

673
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: as they're pronouncing Dennis Schroeder like Schroeder. But I actually

674
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: went in and I tuned into how Dennis Schruder pronounces

675
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: his own name and it was like a Schroda. That's

676
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: a tough one. Man, that is a super duper tough one,

677
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: I will say, though, Yeah, out of this group, Lithuania

678
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: also lost a couple of guards in two different games.

679
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: They lost Yokubidis and then they lost the guy sort

680
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: of replacing Yokubitis in Normantes, so they had two guys out,

681
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: so they played eight guys in their last game against Sweden.

682
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: They've just got so many injuries. Although Yonas Valentunas looks

683
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: fantastic and I guess he's not going to play in

684
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: the EuroLeague or in Europe. I guess he's going to

685
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: be the Nuggets backup center this year because it does

686
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: look awesome and I'm sure Nuggets fans are excited about that.

687
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, Germany versus Portland, Lithuania, Latvia, Serbia, Finland, that

688
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: will be an interesting one. As I mentioned, to get

689
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: into the round of sixteen here, and Turkey versus Sweden

690
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: should be easy for Turkey. Now moving on to Group

691
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: C who it was fun ending here. Greece was able

692
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: to take down Spain, so they win this division at

693
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: four and one. Italy also four and one, they finished second,

694
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: Bosnian Hertzogovina finished third three and two. In Georgia gets

695
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: in at two and three, while Spain eliminated because they

696
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: lost to Greece here in what was a free throw

697
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: battle down the end where Spain just kept missing free throws.

698
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: Along with Cyprus, those two teams are eliminated here.

699
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Spain eliminated before the knockout stage of EuroBasket. I

700
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: think for the first time ever that was pretty shocking.

701
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, twenty twenty two.

702
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: The talent isn't what it used to be for sure.

703
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: They don't even play their NBA guys the entirety of

704
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: the game. I thought their younger guards were kind of

705
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: who brought them back into it in the fourth game,

706
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: but are in the fourth quarter. But then when it

707
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: came down to it, they missed four straight free throws

708
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: while down four and just got lucky to keep even

709
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: getting to the line with the way things were transpiring,

710
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: and couldn't knock it down. So a disappointing finish for them,

711
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: great win for Greece, Lucas making a huge layup late

712
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: and then ya, honest, man, this guy's just dominant. It's

713
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: like there are other big guys out there on the court,

714
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: but when he's playing, it looks like he's playing literally

715
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: higher than everybody else out there, and anytime they get

716
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: close to him, they just go flying as he goes

717
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: in for a dunk. He had three guys on him

718
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: all game and was still finding ways to score and

719
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 2: then finding teammates as well.

720
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: A monster out there. Yeah, the Janice vision goggles were

721
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: on to start this game. He was just firing it

722
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: around because, like you said, just guys all over him.

723
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: Tyler Dorsey was was hot fourteen points in the first

724
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: quarter because Janice was was finding him, so that was fun.

725
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: Ganis ended with nine assists. A Spain came back with

726
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: those kids. They had two nineteen year olds playing at

727
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: the end of this fourth quarter. So maybe the pendulum

728
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: is swinging because it feels like Yes spaining the same team,

729
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: although Rudy Fernandez is h he's hanging out in the

730
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: crowd in this one, but the young guys hopefully are

731
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: taking the torch here Sergio de la Delarrea I think,

732
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: and Mario Saint super Ri the two nineteen year olds playing.

733
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: That's a pretty cool name.

734
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, super Mario very cool. He has a sideburns at all.

735
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: He's got the cool mullet look that the youngsters are

736
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: going with, and I think that that is the next

737
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: step for Spain. They've got some decent big guys that

738
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: got okay wings, but their guards I thought were pretty

739
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: inexperienced and not that great up until the fourth quarter.

740
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: But you know, they're only nineteen years old. The next

741
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: time we're talking about euro Basket, maybe they're looking good

742
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: again and looking like the Spain team that we used

743
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: to see.

744
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: In Yeah, they were kiddies out there, but yeah, that's

745
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Slucas that you mentioned. He's the opposite of a kid.

746
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: He's an old man, but it was great to see

747
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: him out there at a thirty five year old. Him

748
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: and Dorsey were starting in this backcourt, and as we

749
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: said last week, them in place of Nick Calathis and

750
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: Thomas walk Up, who were playing for them last year

751
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: in the Olympics, that just wasn't right. These guys have

752
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: taken they've helped out big time. Just spacing the floor

753
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: for Giannis. It was interesting to see. Giannis didn't play

754
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: in the second game versus Cypress because they they rested him.

755
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: They said, all right, we're playing Georgia tomorrow, we'll rescue

756
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: against Cyprus. They won without him. It was just too

757
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: quick a turnaround, seventeen hour turnaround from end of game

758
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: to the starting of the next game, so you sit.

759
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: And then he missed the Bosnia game with need discomfort

760
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: and they lost that one. It was interesting to see

761
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: at the end of that game because use off. Nurkic

762
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: for the Bosnians had said in an interview, you know,

763
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: you guard Jannis like you just give him space and

764
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: it works. It used to work. And then Nurkics went

765
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: up to Janis after to talk to him. I guess

766
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: about what he said, because that was making the headlines like, oh,

767
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: it's it's easy to guard yanis essentially what it kind

768
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: of was being twisted as so Janni's kinda dunk on

769
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: his ass next season, I'm sure plenty of times. But

770
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: it was fun watching nurk get out there, and you know,

771
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: he looked good man. I mean, when they played Georgia,

772
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: he was literally on the floor diving for balls. I

773
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: just I couldn't envision. I don't. I couldn't remember one

774
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: moment he did that last year for Charlotte.

775
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: I can't remember one moment for Charlotte period, but definitely

776
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: him diving on the ground. I think the way the

777
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: Bosnian team is built is pretty interesting. Nurkic is their

778
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: best player, he's their only NBA guy, but unlike a

779
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: lot of these other teams that are in EuroBasket, I

780
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: don't feel like they played through Nurkic all the time.

781
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: They're really balanced. Everybody touches the ball. In their win

782
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: against Georgia, they had five guys in double figures, two

783
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: more with nine points as well, so the ball just moves.

784
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: Like Nurkic is their leading scorer, but it's not just

785
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: we're giving him the ball and he's going to go

786
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: to work. It's much more of a team based approach,

787
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: and that was different I thought from the way the

788
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: Georgian team played. They're trying to play through Mamu. For

789
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: the most part, Go Go was pretty much invisible, I

790
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: thought in the fourth quarter, so credit to Nurkic there,

791
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: but you can tell that there's a little bit of

792
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: chemistry at least for the Bosnian team that pulled them

793
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: through after the Georgians made a comeback.

794
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're totally right. If they weren't just playing through Nurkic,

795
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: he looked like he could just play as a member

796
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: of a team out there. He was definitely into it.

797
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: So we'll see how he plays with the Utah Jazz

798
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: next year. I definitely had to triple check he's a

799
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: draft on the Jazz. Yeah, yeah, he traded for Colin Secon.

800
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: Had to remember that. It was a tough one. But yes,

801
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: some fun broadcasters in this game as well in the

802
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: Bosnia Georgia game, because at I see is how you

803
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: spell the guy's name. I teach had a block on Shangalia.

804
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: So the broadcaster said, attic goes to the attic, or

805
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: he said I teach goes to the attic. He could

806
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: have said to clean up the shingles because it was

807
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: on Shngalia. You know, I'm just adding on we're working here.

808
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: But it was fun. Also, I will say just one

809
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: thing about Italy seeing SALLYU Niang who was drafted by

810
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavaliers. They now have another Niang. Ain't George,

811
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: it's Sally You Nyang. He is the second round pick.

812
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: He's probably a stash guy for a year at least.

813
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: He's twenty one. But he was really really really good

814
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: for the Italian team that was that was a fun

815
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: team to watch. Also fun. We had a euro Basket

816
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: weggie and we've got to take credit for it being

817
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: called a weggie worldwide. Here it is jelly a want

818
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: si because of the and we get a weggie. It

819
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: was really cool that way. You got another term for it.

820
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: It's the universal term. But they're lucky.

821
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: That's the universal term.

822
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: Hey man, that's impact, yeah man, literally to make your mark.

823
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: We did it, buddy, we did it. Yeah.

824
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: This is this.

825
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: Is a different continent and they can't even come up

826
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: with other words for what this is called. It's called now,

827
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: there's not another word for a swish, you know. People

828
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: don't call it a pure ball. So we've vanquished the

829
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: neck ball and weggie is all that remains.

830
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: Yes, Ralph Waller started it, but we took it worldwide.

831
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: We are the pit bulls of NBA slang. We are international.

832
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: We did it all right now, yes, baby, you get

833
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: to see weggie here on YouTube. Now, I will say,

834
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: just to wrap up group C and take us into

835
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: Group D the round of sixteen games for these four

836
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: teams that advanced in Group C are gonna be taken

837
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: on the Group D teams. It'll be Greece, Israel, Italy, Slovenia,

838
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: Bosnirozogovina and Poland taking them on, and Georgia versus France.

839
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be fun. So let's

840
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: get to that Group D because it was. It was

841
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: a good when France winning the division four and one.

842
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Poland was second, a bit of a surprise three and two,

843
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: Slovenia three and two in Israel three and two, so

844
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: three teams under three and two is a tight division.

845
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: Belgium did not advance, Iceland I did not advance. It

846
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: was fun though. Here on the last day to see

847
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: Slovenia versus Israel, Luca dropped thirty seven and Denny dropped

848
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: thirty four in the same game. That's the best Denny

849
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: game I think I've ever seen. He was just frickin awesome,

850
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: while Slovina started zeroing too and they won their last three.

851
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: And before we get to breaking down what Luca looks

852
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: like or what Denny looks like, is Luca Magic. Luca

853
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: Magic a good nickname for Luka Doncic like Luca Magic.

854
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: I mean they kept saying on the broadcast, and I

855
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: know it's it's been said in the NBA, but I

856
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Everybody sort of just looks for a nickname,

857
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: I guess for Luca just because they don't want to

858
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: call him Luca Yeah the down or whatever. But it

859
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: just feels so, I don't know.

860
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: I think it's good, right, not great. It seems a

861
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: little low effort along the lines of Look, Nikola Jokic

862
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: has j Oka in his name, We're gonna call him

863
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 2: Joker Doncic. It ends in ic that's pretty close to that.

864
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: But some of the things he does is magic, and

865
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: I feel like it kind of plays off of Larry

866
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: Legend in a way. Not to mention just calling him

867
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: Luca is a perfect nickname. He's got a great one

868
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: name guy. So I would probably give Luca Magic like

869
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: a seven and a half out of ten. You know,

870
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: we could probably do better, but he's been around for

871
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 2: so long and we haven't, so I think it's gonna stick.

872
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. Something else that sticks to me

873
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: because I'm a sucker for blue jerseys. As I wear

874
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: this grease one here, you're seeing a grown man in

875
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: a jersey. If you're on YouTube, no sleeves needed. I

876
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: will say the blue jerseys for Slovenia are freaking sweet.

877
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: Now they've got a couple of blues. You can dabble

878
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: which type of blue you like. They pull him out

879
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: different ones each game, but there's some sweet jerseys that

880
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: they pull out with the patterns on them. Yeah, they

881
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: look great. And Luca, I don't know, Luca doesn't need

882
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: to play in Foba to be Phoeba Luca, but he

883
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: definitely he's getting into these games and he's with his

884
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: guys defensively, and he's motivated. Man, he just looks like

885
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be a tough game as we get

886
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: to this weekend when they take on Italy.

887
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Slovenia hasn't been super impressive to me as a team,

888
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: but Luca has been awesome. I think he's at like

889
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: thirty three points a game and he's pretty much unguardable

890
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: in the NBA and he seems to be just as

891
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: unguardable here in the EuroBasket tournament. So they have like

892
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 2: a one percent chance of beating anybody, including the best

893
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: teams like Serbia and Germany. Just if he's having a

894
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: great shooting game. He was into this game as if

895
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: it was a Game seven of the NBA Finals, counting

896
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: down his made three at the end to put him

897
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: at thirty nine points.

898
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: He was great.

899
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: Denny has been awesome, and this group d has kind

900
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: of been about the individual performers for me, Luca first

901
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: and foremost. Jenny has been great, like I said, and

902
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: then Jordan Lloyd or as they're calling him for the

903
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: Polish team, Jordan Lloyd in, this guy has been awesome.

904
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: He's at like almost thirty points per game, as well

905
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: as their import kind of guy, naturalized citizen, and he

906
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: has been the perimeter spark they need to fit in

907
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: with everything else that they've got going on. So those

908
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: three guys are like, I mean, we'll see who advances

909
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: in the tournament before they and if they do, I

910
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: assume they do name an all tournament team. I could

911
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: see any of those three making it.

912
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they get Poland Gainst Bosnia on Sunday, which we'll

913
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: follow up with after all the games are done through

914
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday, likely a show on Sunday night, but

915
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: that is a winnable game for them, and they could

916
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: advance to the quarterfinals for sure. But as you said, yeah,

917
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: the individual performances here from Luca or Denny. I mean,

918
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: Denny was literally step back in threes all day, no

919
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: problem doing that. He just looks so good handling the

920
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: ball and he could be a primary ball handler at

921
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: times or secondary the passes, doing it all out there.

922
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: And even though we got you know, we had a

923
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: bad game from Roman Sorkin, who is their big guy

924
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: that he can dunk it. And Yamadar who's usually a

925
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: showman the noble looks behind the backs hang time, but

926
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: he was he was stinky out there. He wasn't himself.

927
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: So this this division and this type of tournament where

928
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: it's one and done, you could see any of these

929
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: teams advancing when it comes to the Saturday Sunday games,

930
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: which again for these teams in this division, it's France

931
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: moving on, no problems. They'll take on Georgia, you know,

932
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: which is not going to be easy. Poland Bosnia Slovenia

933
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: versus Italy, and Israel versus Greece, which will be a banger.

934
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: There's no doubt this weekend anything else on this D

935
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: group here.

936
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: I think I'm out of D group notes.

937
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to say, just to say, because it's it happened.

938
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: Gershon Yabuseli dropped thirty six versus pol And he had

939
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: six threes. I mean that's a freaking huge, huge number.

940
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: And watching Israel, they can play really really good D

941
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: so against the Greek team, they may probably just copy

942
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: what they did against France to beat them. They had

943
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter they won twenty seven to thirteen, just

944
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: because they're playing zone and that's what you do against Giannis.

945
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: So we will see how they perform this weekend. I

946
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: think that's it. We shall be back most likely on Sunday,

947
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: and then after the quarterfinals games on Wednesday, then the

948
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: semifinals games on Friday and the finals on Sunday. So

949
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: that's our sched and just say, you know, we've been

950
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: dropping some stuff. Trey made a great list of Mellow's

951
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: ten best games of his career, which highlight why this

952
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: dude is a Hall of Famer. This was fun.

953
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: I gotta come clean. There's more than ten games in

954
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: here that yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry for giving you extra

955
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: games about a guy who's good at making basketball shots.

956
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: So he played like a twelve hundred. I don't know,

957
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: it's probably probably fifteen there. At least one of the

958
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: games is four months worth of game, so who knows

959
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 2: that's true.

960
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Also, our Jurassic Pals continues. We watch Jurassic World

961
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: Fallen Kingdom, of course we did. That's dropping tomorrow, Friday,

962
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: September fifth. Did I like that one? I guess nobody did.

963
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all the post one post one, they

964
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: all blend together, not all of them.

965
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: This one's uh, this one in it's called Jurassic World

966
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: Fallen Kingdom, but for me it's called Jurassic World. Dino

967
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: in a House. That's just how you gotta remember. You

968
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: gotta remember, like one interesting thing that happened that dinosaurs in.

969
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: The huss Yeah, and they that's where they break through

970
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: the glass at the end.

971
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you know the

972
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: the Indo Raptor. I believe it's called it's triggered by

973
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: a gun spoiler alert. You can name it, you can

974
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: aim a thing. And somebody bought it for forty eight

975
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: million dollars even though it's just a prototype.

976
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: So that drops tomorrow on Friday. You know, drop us alike.

977
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: If you're in that kind of mood, drop us a review.

978
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: If you're in that kind of mood, join us. We'll

979
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: be back here on Sunday, live on the tubes, or

980
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: get it as a podcast afterwards. But for now, Clipper Bros.

981
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

982
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 2: love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us, and remember

983
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: weggie is the universal term for weggie.

984
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: Very nice. Nice. Then threw that at you. Didn't know

985
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: if you had a quote, but that's the quote.

986
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: I had a second oneas thrown at me again.

987
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: Okay, for now we're gonna do Clipper Bros again or yeah.

988
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, run it back to Clipper Bros again. Never ros,

989
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: you heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

990
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 2: love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us, and remember

991
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: no baby Tassy, it's Daddy Kirby.