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Speaker 1: This is the Cowboys Nation podcast with instant reactions and

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Speaker 1: analysis to breaking news and events in Cowboys Nation.

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Speaker 3: All right, Cowboys Nation, welcome into Podcast Nation here on

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Speaker 3: a lovely Monday morning, well afternoon now it's one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Schoenheimer has officially been named the head coach of the

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: It is a new era here at the Star for.

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Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys. We've got Ambar Garcia, We've got kyl Yeomans,

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Speaker 3: We've got Derek Eagleton here and myself, Nicole Itchs and

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Speaker 3: your host on our Podcast Nation show to get some

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Speaker 3: instant reactions of the new hire guys. A lot to unpack, obviously,

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones speaking very highly of Brian Schottenheimer as the

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Speaker 3: new head coach, Jones as well, and even Brian Schottenheimer

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Speaker 3: having a little bit of emotion.

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Speaker 4: Jerry as well.

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Speaker 5: Let's just get your overall thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Of this press conference, because I want to get to

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Speaker 3: some topics in a few but first let's get your thoughts.

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Speaker 6: Cole.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think for the most part it was very transparent,

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Speaker 7: as to what the situation was. The Jones family has

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Speaker 7: heard the rumors, they've heard the murmurs, they've heard the

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Speaker 7: criticism from the Cowboys fans, and they weren't afraid to

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Speaker 7: address it.

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Speaker 8: I thought the biggest quote of the day was.

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Speaker 7: Jerry saying, it is a risk, but it's not a

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Speaker 7: hail Mary, at least that's the way he sees it.

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Speaker 7: So I thought it was interesting they outlined the process.

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Speaker 7: They said how many coaches they talked to, even to

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Speaker 7: the point of Pete Carroll, of course, a name that

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Speaker 7: popped up late in the draft or excuse me wait,

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Speaker 7: late in the coach process, and he was instead of

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Speaker 7: maybe a true candidate, he was somebody that Jerry talked

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Speaker 7: to about. Brian Schottenheimer. So an interesting tidbit along the way.

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Speaker 7: The way that Brian started the press conference, I thought

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Speaker 7: couldn't have been better, talking about the players and talking

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Speaker 7: about relationships and talking about what he's done well throughout

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Speaker 7: his time here in Dallas a short three years. Of course,

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Speaker 7: two of those as offensive coordinated, one of those as

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Speaker 7: had some downs. First two seasons he was here, they're

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Speaker 7: twelve and five, they've made it to the playoffs in

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Speaker 7: a favorable manner, did not have a success in the playoffs,

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Speaker 7: and then this past year of course doing what they did.

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Speaker 7: So in the grand scheme of it all, he still

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Speaker 7: boiled it down to this is about the players, This

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Speaker 7: is we're gonna do this together, We're gonna build this together.

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Speaker 7: He even brought the fans in on that sentiment throughout

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Speaker 7: as well. So that's where the emotion I think came from.

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Speaker 7: Is because he is a relationship guy. He builds through

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Speaker 7: people around him. And that's one of the criticisms is

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Speaker 7: can he build a staff around him that will fight

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Speaker 7: for him and that will have success. And I think

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Speaker 7: we saw the plan to do that as in place today.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And as I watched this press conference, I just

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Speaker 9: thought about I've been here now since Chan Gaily, So

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Speaker 9: I've been through a lot of these press conferences with

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Speaker 9: head coaches, and one thing.

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Speaker 8: I've learned it's been a lot, Yeah, a lot.

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Speaker 9: One of the things I've learned is you don't win

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Speaker 9: the press conference. The press conference isn't what really matters.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 9: I do think Brian Schottenneimer represented himself very well today,

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Speaker 9: represented his family very well today. I think he will

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Speaker 9: be a good representative for the Cowboys organization as the

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Speaker 9: head coach. But to me, the most important part of

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Speaker 9: what he said the entire time was when he was

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Speaker 9: You know, Brian's been talking forever aboudy, why you got

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Speaker 9: your guys so spread out? Why are we not take compacting.

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Speaker 5: Them a little bit more motion running the ball?

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Speaker 9: Those are the things that, Yeah, those are the things,

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Speaker 9: quite frankly, that got my attention because they are the

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Speaker 9: more creativity. And it sounded to me like that's the

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Speaker 9: who knows if that's how it's gonna end up when

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Speaker 5: We'll see. But one thing I've also.

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Speaker 9: Learned is you don't prejudge. You always give the ability

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Speaker 5: They will be.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, for me, I have mixed feelings right now because

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Speaker 10: it was a very emotional press conference and you can

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Speaker 10: the comments that were made by Steven and Jerry Jones

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Speaker 10: and just feel the emotion. And everyone had a tear

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Speaker 4: He's a very likable.

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Speaker 10: Person and he mentioned it up there. One of his

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Speaker 6: You saw the.

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Speaker 10: Support of the players being present there. And one of

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Speaker 4: But the part where it.

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Speaker 10: Kind of makes me feel a little uncomfortable with is knowing, well, Okay,

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Speaker 10: he was the offensive coordinator and we know how the

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Speaker 10: offense operated this year. Granted Mike McCarthy was the one

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Speaker 10: calling the shots and calling the plays, but still you

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Speaker 10: But I'm with you, Derek. I am a believer in

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Speaker 10: You saw a lot of the offensive guys here in

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Speaker 10: time will tell. But it's it's one of those things.

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Speaker 10: And I don't I don't want to bring an off

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Speaker 10: it'll be fine if not, fire me later.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 10: But the one of the other things is are you

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Speaker 10: And one of the things I met that he mentioned

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Speaker 10: and you like to hear those things. You like to

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Speaker 10: willing to challenge Dak and willing to challenge whoever needs

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Speaker 10: the guy. I felt the emotions for him and with him,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just to play off of her point there about

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Speaker 7: the relationship with Dak, and I've said this on Talking

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Speaker 7: Cowboys a couple times, is one of the key components

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Speaker 8: They have to have a.

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Speaker 7: Relationship that will elevate Dak Prescott. That doesn't mean the

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Speaker 7: best relationship in the building. And I kind of got

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Speaker 7: that feel from when Schottenheimer was asked multiple questions about Dak.

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Speaker 7: He didn't say, oh, we were best of buds. Went up,

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Speaker 5: He said, No, we.

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Speaker 7: Challenge each other and we know how to poke each

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Speaker 8: Across the way.

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Speaker 7: I think there's that level of competition and elite competitor

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Speaker 7: is what Schottenheimer called dak that. I like that about

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Speaker 7: an offensive cornerat I don't want somebody that's going to

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Speaker 7: come in and be buddy buddy with your sixty million

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Speaker 7: to live up to the sixty million dollar tag, and

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Speaker 7: we'll see what ends up happening from that point forward.

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Speaker 8: X's and o's are a concern at least from my eyes.

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Speaker 8: I love the culture higher.

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Speaker 7: I love the overarching CEO element that Brian Schottenheimer can

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Speaker 7: bring from a head coach. But during his time in Seattle,

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Speaker 7: they weren't necessarily a ton of success in Seattle whenever

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Speaker 7: it came to the x's and o's side of things.

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Speaker 7: Here in Dallas, he did not call plays, And we

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Speaker 11: So it was one or the other.

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Speaker 7: It was either Mike McCarthy or Brian Schottenheimer in terms

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Speaker 8: And so he's betting on himself here.

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Speaker 7: He's betting on himself that he can take the little

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Speaker 8: The success and failures of the past of.

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Speaker 7: Being an offensive coordinator in this league for so long,

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Speaker 9: One other thing I'll mention it when you talk about

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Speaker 9: two things he said that piqued my interest with regards

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Speaker 9: to that. He talked about himself as being a relationship

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Speaker 9: I think is true of all leaders, all really good leaders,

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Speaker 5: That's not the only way to do it.

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Speaker 9: I think there are other ways, and I think you

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Speaker 9: see some coaches that are successful at dan Quinn's I

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've all.

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Speaker 9: Had I would assume, I hope we've all had that

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Speaker 9: me is if he has the ability to create, and

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Speaker 9: that's what we've heard about him and anybody that works

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Speaker 9: From the standpoint, you don't know Brian Schottenheimer other than

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Speaker 8: If it doesn't work, that's an easy fix.

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Speaker 7: You find an offensive coordinator that you trust and you

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Speaker 10: Well, initially, when Jerry made the comment of like, oh,

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Speaker 10: Sorry, I just pit everywhere literally exactly literally, Yeah, open

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Speaker 5: It's like any job, higher like hiring people is hard.

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Speaker 7: It's a fickle game. It completely is, and it goes

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Speaker 9: his head coach and he knows his head coach is

443
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Speaker 9: vehemently maybe against the things that he thinks all the

444
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Speaker 9: right things to do, then you have to be really

445
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Speaker 9: thoughtful about how you handle that situation, all right, Because

446
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Speaker 9: at the end of the day, part of it is

447
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Speaker 9: self preservation.

448
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Speaker 5: You want to keep your job and.

449
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Speaker 8: I can already.

450
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Speaker 9: At the same time, you have to think about how

451
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Speaker 9: do you best get this across to ultimately get to

452
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Speaker 9: where you want to get. And people that are successful

453
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,360
Speaker 9: learn how to deal with people. That's why It's all relation.

454
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Speaker 9: That's why when he says it is ninety percent or

455
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 9: mostly about people, it is in every job.

456
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Speaker 5: I don't care what the job is. The skill is

457
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Speaker 5: a skill.

458
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Speaker 9: If you can't deal with people, you will never be

459
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Speaker 9: successful whatever your job is.

460
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Speaker 10: Just talking out loud, not to start off any drama.

461
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Speaker 5: Yeah, stir it up.

462
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Speaker 10: But if you're such a good people's person, And that's

463
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Speaker 10: why the main description, wouldn't you imagine the relationship was

464
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Speaker 10: there to speak of with Like let's say, and again,

465
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Speaker 10: if I put myself in that scenario, I would probably

466
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Speaker 10: do the same thing that he did. But I'm saying like,

467
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Speaker 10: if that's one of your qualities, wouldn't you imagine.

468
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Speaker 4: There would be a better.

469
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Speaker 10: Open policy scenario where you feel free to say whatever.

470
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Speaker 9: In twenty twenty three, what we have is the results.

471
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Speaker 9: The results said that there was a chasm. The results

472
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Speaker 9: were that ultimately they resolved it and they made the

473
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Speaker 9: offense better.

474
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Speaker 5: Right, we saw the results. We don't know what would

475
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Speaker 5: happened behind our hands.

476
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Speaker 9: We don't whatever happened worked right, And so that to

477
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Speaker 9: me says that again that's why when he said it

478
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Speaker 9: in the press conference, it made me perk up. Like,

479
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Speaker 9: oh okay, I like, I like a person that problem solves. Like,

480
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Speaker 9: whatever your job is, can you problem solve? Can you

481
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Speaker 9: solve problems? There are a lot of problems problem right,

482
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Speaker 9: a lot of there's a lot of problems, a lot

483
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Speaker 9: of problems.

484
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Speaker 8: With salary, cat problem, there's a talent problem. There's three

485
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Speaker 8: problem there, there are any given or a lot of problems.

486
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Speaker 5: Fifty three guys on your roster.

487
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Speaker 9: At the very least, you're dealing with all fifty three

488
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Speaker 9: of those men, how they're dealing with each other, and

489
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Speaker 9: also whatever baggage they bring in from outside, wife, girlfriend, kids,

490
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Speaker 9: all those things.

491
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Speaker 8: I know how that got whatever it is you know,

492
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Speaker 8: know how that goes?

493
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Speaker 9: You know, like honestly, and to be I'm being dead serious,

494
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Speaker 9: Like when when you and your wife had triplets, that

495
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 9: became something that Nick and I have to think about

496
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Speaker 9: absolutely right, as leaders have done a great job, we

497
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Speaker 9: have to think about that. So my point is, like,

498
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Speaker 9: if he's got fifty three of those guys and as

499
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Speaker 9: you said, it's coaching staff and he's having to manage

500
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Speaker 9: all of that, being a coach is not just about

501
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 9: x's and o's. X's zones are only a part of it.

502
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Speaker 9: And by the way, if if there are there's drama

503
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Speaker 9: going on in your locker room, there's no way they

504
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 9: are executing the x's and o's as they should if

505
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Speaker 9: they're not focused. So managing people and understanding people, that's

506
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Speaker 9: a big part, a huge part of the job that

507
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Speaker 9: I think gets lost a lot of times on people

508
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 9: because they just see they just see it, and they say, well,

509
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 9: it's got to be the person that knows x's and o's.

510
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Speaker 3: And it's gotta be something you have to be ready for.

511
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Speaker 3: I love how he was so open and honest with

512
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Speaker 3: saying that, you know, the past two decades I've been

513
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Speaker 3: in coaching, I wasn't ready, but he feels like he's ready.

514
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Speaker 4: Now.

515
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Speaker 3: Do you guys believe from what y'all heard today that

516
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Speaker 3: Brian is ready?

517
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Speaker 8: No, I don't.

518
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Speaker 7: I don't believe he's ready because I think he's still

519
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 7: got a long way to go.

520
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 8: He's gonna learn along the way.

521
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Speaker 7: And that's not an indictment on Brian Schotenheimer, let me

522
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 7: let that be clear. But he has never been a

523
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Speaker 7: head coach in the NFL that starts today, that starts

524
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Speaker 7: moving forward. He's going to build a staff he's gonna

525
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Speaker 7: build a draft board. He's going to help build the

526
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 7: future of this organization. He's going to learn along the way,

527
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Speaker 7: and he might have success in year one, plain and simple,

528
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Speaker 7: but he might not. At the same time, he says

529
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Speaker 7: he's ready for the opportunity.

530
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Speaker 8: I believe in that.

531
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Speaker 7: Is he ready to have success right now, which is

532
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Speaker 7: what is expected out of Cowboys Nation. We're going that's

533
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 7: still yet to be seen, and that's built on the

534
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Speaker 7: lessons he's going to learn from this point forward, through

535
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Speaker 7: the draft, through this offseason, up until training camp. He's

536
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Speaker 7: going to have to put together an entire training camp

537
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Speaker 7: regiment for an entire fifty three man roster, which is

538
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Speaker 7: something he's never done before. He's got a lot of

539
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Speaker 7: help to do so, and he's going to have an

540
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Speaker 7: entire staff to help to help achieve that. But no,

541
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Speaker 7: I don't think he's ready right now. But that doesn't

542
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Speaker 7: mean he still can't have success because of the people

543
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Speaker 7: that he's going to lean on around him to get

544
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Speaker 7: it done.

545
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Speaker 10: I think he is. As far as what is success,

546
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Speaker 10: we will know, But as far as him for this

547
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Speaker 10: ready for this opportunity, I think so. I mean, I

548
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Speaker 10: love somebody of the self awareness, the fact that he

549
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 10: made that comment about years ago he wasn't ready and

550
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Speaker 10: amidst that, but then feels now and I'm just going

551
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Speaker 10: based again my emotional side of things, when I hear

552
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Speaker 10: the man with teary eyes say I'm ready and say,

553
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 10: you know this is for his dad, chance you know

554
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 10: I'm in it. I'm emotionally invested now and I want

555
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 10: to see him succeed. But I think based on everything

556
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Speaker 10: that I heard today, I feel that he's ready to

557
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Speaker 10: put in the effort or at least try to give

558
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Speaker 10: all the effort that he can to make this happen.

559
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Speaker 10: Whether or not that's going to happen that there are

560
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Speaker 10: many many variables that you don't know how well your

561
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 10: players are going to play. You don't know about the injuries,

562
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 10: what's gonna happen there. You don't know how many people

563
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Speaker 10: are you gonna be able to get through free agency

564
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Speaker 10: the draft. So there's so many variables happening there. But

565
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Speaker 10: as far as him being ready for the moment, I

566
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Speaker 10: think he is.

567
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Speaker 8: Based on what I watched today, the effort's going to

568
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Speaker 8: be there, no doubt. Yeah, I mean he's gonna He's

569
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Speaker 8: going to live and die.

570
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Speaker 7: He said it today, He's like, it's gonna kill me

571
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Speaker 7: if I don't, or we're going to get a Super

572
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 7: Bowl even if it kills me, Like the effort's going

573
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Speaker 7: to be there.

574
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Speaker 9: Well, I'll tell you this, I don't know how anybody

575
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Speaker 9: can know one way or the other, yes or no,

576
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Speaker 9: that he's ready for this moment.

577
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Speaker 5: Not even himself.

578
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Speaker 9: What I can tell you is he's been training for

579
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Speaker 9: this since the day he was born. And what I

580
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 9: mean by that is when you grow up in the

581
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Speaker 9: house of an NFL coach, by the way, a successful

582
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Speaker 9: NFL head coach. Again, they're only thirty two at any

583
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 9: given time, they're only thirty two of those in the world, right,

584
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Speaker 9: And he grew up in the house with one, a

585
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 9: successful one again at that. So when you say he's

586
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Speaker 9: got to create a training camp regiment for the first time,

587
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Speaker 9: maybe not.

588
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Speaker 5: Maybe that's what he was.

589
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Speaker 9: Doing at the age of thirteen's right, he was literally

590
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Speaker 9: sitting in this room, like if I had a training

591
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Speaker 9: he got my spiral noe bet right. What we know

592
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Speaker 9: is that like that's when you exposed to something at

593
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Speaker 9: an early age, when you're most creative, Like kids are

594
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 9: the most creative, right, when you're the most creative, you

595
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 9: start thinking about things that you just don't think about

596
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 9: as an adult. So who knows, he may be he

597
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 9: may be so overly prepared for this moment that it's

598
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Speaker 9: just he will be well beyond anybody else from the

599
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Speaker 9: standpoint preparation.

600
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Speaker 11: Part of it.

601
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Speaker 5: Here is the issue.

602
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Speaker 9: The issue is can he take all of those experiences yes,

603
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 9: and now know the exact moment when to apply them

604
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 9: to the situation because he sees it and says, oh,

605
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 9: I recognize this is the situation I thought about when

606
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 9: I was fifteen. Okay, let me let me do this

607
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 9: to be able to fix this problem. Because again, that's

608
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 9: all it is, is going to be a set of

609
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 9: problems that you're figuring out and that you're solving as

610
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 9: you're trying to coach and get guys ready for playing football.

611
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Speaker 9: So I don't know the answer is I don't know.

612
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 9: What I do know is he's been training for for

613
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 9: a very very very very very long time. Now can

614
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 9: he actually make those experiences pay off?

615
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: I want to go back to what you had mentioned

616
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: earlier about the different offense, the modernizing of the offense

617
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: that he could do. Possibly that he actually mentioned about

618
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: bring some play action, tempo shifts and motions. How much

619
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Speaker 3: of that do you You kind of mentioned that we

620
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: don't know exactly if he's able to execute that, But

621
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Speaker 3: do y'all have at least a little bit of confidence

622
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Speaker 3: that he'll be able to do that and apply that

623
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Speaker 3: for next year?

624
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure I understand your question.

625
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Speaker 3: Do you think that there's a real possibility that he

626
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 3: will be able to add those different things to the

627
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Speaker 3: offense moving forward.

628
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Speaker 5: In one year?

629
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Speaker 3: In one year?

630
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Speaker 9: Some of them, yes, I think some of them are

631
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 9: really just strategic things that if you train and you

632
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 9: implement them into your offense, then they're going to be there.

633
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Speaker 9: I also will say for a lot of those things

634
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Speaker 9: I mentioned that he mentioned, those are things that were

635
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Speaker 9: doing the second half of twenty twenty three.

636
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Speaker 5: So my suspicion is he's.

637
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Speaker 9: Going to go back to that part of the year

638
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 9: and he's going to be like, guys, I mean, we

639
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 9: were doing in the second half of twenty twenty three.

640
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Speaker 5: That's gonna be our starting point now.

641
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Speaker 9: Where I will ask him to I don't know be

642
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 9: better is the right answer, but Paris team for a

643
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 9: better outcome is once you got to the playoffs that

644
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 9: didn't seem to work.

645
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 5: It didn't work like mightily it didn't work.

646
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Speaker 9: So what's the next step in the evolution of that

647
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 9: offense to get you ready for whatever's gonna happen in

648
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 9: the postseason? Can you get them back to a point

649
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 9: where they're playing at the level that we saw them

650
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 9: a year and a half ago, two years ago, and

651
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 9: then at that point, can you get them beyond that

652
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 9: so that once they get to the playoffs they're ready

653
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 9: to compete. I love the fact he wants to run

654
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 9: the ball because I think that helps you compete in

655
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 9: the playoffs. I don't think it's everything, though. I think

656
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 9: there's a lot of other factors involved. A lot of

657
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 9: that too, also has to do with those players over there.

658
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 9: Let's not say it's all on the coach. It depends

659
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 9: on those players. But I think from the standpoint of

660
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 9: the things he wants to do, I think those are

661
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 9: things you can implement tomorrow if you wanted to, because

662
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 9: this team, we've seen them do it in recent history.

663
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Speaker 7: It all it goes back to the West Coast, right.

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Speaker 7: He was never really on the West Coast. Whenever he

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Speaker 7: was in Seattle, he was never really a West Coast scheme.

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Speaker 7: Guy with the Seahawks, he did a lot of air koyel,

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Speaker 7: air raid, spread it out, that kind of thing. They

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Speaker 7: ran the ball okay, but it was really because they

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Speaker 7: had the people in place, not necessarily more so scheme.

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Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy always talked about it. The West Coast offense

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Speaker 7: is predicated on that inside zone, that run game, and

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Speaker 7: then working off of the deep play action shot and

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Speaker 7: you're going to see a mixture of that. So kind

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Speaker 7: of like what Derek said, we don't really know what

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Speaker 7: the extent of what he will take from Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 7: He's not going to cop carbon copy the playbook and

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Speaker 7: set it down and say here we go, guys, let's

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Speaker 7: get after it. There will be tweaks and changes and

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Speaker 7: things that he liked and things that he didn't like.

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Speaker 7: And that's part of why I'm excited about it, because

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Speaker 7: I didn't hate what Mike McCarthy did from an offensive standpoint.

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Speaker 8: I don't think that was ever really the true problem.

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Speaker 7: There were some game situation moments and there was some

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Speaker 7: play calling in the moment that was a problem, right,

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Speaker 7: not actual not the actual playbook, which is completely different now.

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Speaker 7: It's whether or not Brian's able to change it, had

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Speaker 7: called him Brian coach Schottenheimer. Whenever it probably comes.

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Speaker 9: It's totally like when we see him around the office,

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Speaker 9: he seems like.

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Speaker 7: I saw before the press conference, congrats, he stopped down,

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Speaker 7: he asked me how the kids were, and we were

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Speaker 7: good like.

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Speaker 8: It's just that kind of guy builds relationships.

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Speaker 7: But in terms of the x's and o's, he's got

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Speaker 7: to know in those those moments, in that experience when

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Speaker 7: and where to go in a certain direction. I don't

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Speaker 7: know if we're going to see that until the middle

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Speaker 7: of the year or truly toward the end of the year.

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Speaker 7: Just how much he took from McCarthy's scheme and how

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Speaker 7: much he's taken from his time in New York and

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Speaker 7: Seattle and previously.

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Speaker 11: Along the way.

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Speaker 10: I don't know how to answer your question because I

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Speaker 10: don't really know quite how I currently feel about this,

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Speaker 10: because again, yes, I want to think of that. I

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Speaker 10: want to think that he during his time here was

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Speaker 10: able to identify the good and the bad and be

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Speaker 10: able to separate the two in and want to improve

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Speaker 10: on the good. We've seen the offense when they can

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Speaker 10: be very successful and put up numbers and statistics.

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Speaker 6: And things like that.

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Speaker 10: But at the same time, he was the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 10: last year. So again there there's that division that we

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Speaker 10: don't know to what extent, how much of a voice

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Speaker 10: he actually had in those rooms. We don't know we

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Speaker 10: were in there, but he was offensive coordinator again. So

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Speaker 10: again it is right now, it's hard for me to

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Speaker 10: formulate a positive thought in that regard. But as a

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Speaker 10: head coach, I think he's the right person. I love

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Speaker 10: everything I heard. As a play caller, I don't know

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Speaker 10: just yet. I gotta wait and see.

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Speaker 3: Well, it starts with surrounding Dak Prescott with the pieces necessary,

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Speaker 3: and that's something that Jerry Jones was very adamant about

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Speaker 3: in the press conference that they are looking forward to

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Speaker 3: surrounding Dak and giving Brian Schottenheimer the pieces that he needs.

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Speaker 3: But we've got to go. We got another half hour

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Speaker 3: of podcast nation here.

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Speaker 5: Not gonna be better us. You might as well keep

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Speaker 8: I mean, y'all can stay of y'all want to an

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Speaker 8: extra mic over there?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say what he's gonna say. Yeah, he'll

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Speaker 5: To the Cowboys Nation podcast.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into podcast Nation. We're switching up

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Speaker 3: a little bit with a new crow. We got Tommy Yarsh,

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Speaker 3: Nick Eatmon, Patrick, Nosey Walker, myself, your host Nicole Hutchison

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Speaker 3: to break down the new hire and welcoming of new

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Speaker 3: head coach Brian Schottenheimer here.

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Speaker 5: For the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Now real fast. We got a chance to hear from

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Speaker 3: Derek Eagleton and Kyle Yeomans and bar Garcia about their

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Speaker 3: thoughts on the new hire. I do want to get

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Speaker 3: y'all's opinions because we just heard about an hour and

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Speaker 3: twelve minutes welcoming and Brian, So I'll go with you.

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Speaker 3: Nick Eamon thoughts.

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Speaker 4: I like what he said. You know, you don't win

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Speaker 4: or lose a press conference, but right here, yeah, they

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Speaker 4: spraised some last It's a it's a good thing. I

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Speaker 4: never know now, but I like what he said. But

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Speaker 4: the thing about it is too is we'll know in time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this was a surprise move. I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to sit here and say like, yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 4: like this move all the way. I didn't know about

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Speaker 4: it when I saw your list of twenty candidates when

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Speaker 4: we first started, I would have thought he was in

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Speaker 4: the late teens as a chance to get this job.

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Speaker 4: I was just surprised, So I think we all are.

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Speaker 4: I'll just say I think he's here because of things

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Speaker 4: we can't see, and that only time is going to

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Speaker 4: tell with that.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, for me, I agree, it's definitely a surprise pick.

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Speaker 13: And I'll be honest. I mean, no sense in pretending

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Speaker 13: he was not my pick. I still said right here,

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Speaker 13: and I said who my pick was? Like a lead horse,

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Speaker 13: like Ben Johnson or a Pete Carroll if you want

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Speaker 13: to experience funny how the Pete Carroll tree kind of

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Speaker 13: ties right into who they ended up getting with Brian Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 13: But as a leader of men, that was a concern

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Speaker 13: I would have had with Kevin Moore. I don't have

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Speaker 13: that concern with Brian Schottenheimer. He can get by in

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Speaker 13: he has players who are already bought in. Talk about

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Speaker 13: dak Overshowing and those guys who were present at the

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Speaker 13: press conference. That speaks volumes. So there are positives there

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Speaker 13: concerns for me. They're obviously their first time NFL head coach.

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Speaker 13: I don't know exactly what that looks like. I don't

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Speaker 13: know what his input was as far as weekly game plans.

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Speaker 6: Under Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 13: How much influence did he have, which means I don't

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Speaker 13: know what his game plan will look like. But he

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Speaker 13: said the right things, like Nick said, particularly to my

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Speaker 13: question about what the modernization of this offense would look like,

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Speaker 13: he went into some detail there. I liked what was said.

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Speaker 13: Let's see how he can put that into action.

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Speaker 15: Though, Yeah, it's all about proven right. I mean, this

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Speaker 15: is a huge proving ground for Brian Schottenheimer. And you know,

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Speaker 15: we talk about winning and losing press conferences. This is

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Speaker 15: a guy who's never going to lose a press conference.

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Speaker 15: I mean, even as time as an offensive coordinator, he

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Speaker 15: was fantastic with us. He says all the right things,

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Speaker 15: and you know, he does all the right things when

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Speaker 15: we're around. And now, of course, you're a head coach

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Speaker 15: or any kind of coach, you gotta win. And he

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Speaker 15: understands that. I think Jerry Jones understands that. And Jerry

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Speaker 15: Jones knows that this is a big risk for him.

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Speaker 15: He understands that, and he may made it very clear

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Speaker 15: to us over an hour that he knows this is

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Speaker 15: a risk, but he thinks that Brian Schottenheimer gives this

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Speaker 15: team the best chance to win in the playoffs.

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Speaker 11: Patrick's absolutely right.

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Speaker 15: As a leader of men, I don't question that at all.

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Speaker 15: This guy is going to get his players bought in,

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Speaker 15: and you saw that with the guys who were already there.

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Speaker 15: He's got a good relationship with Dak Prescott. I think

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Speaker 15: that's the most important part of all this in the

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Speaker 15: entire coaching search, was what can we do to maximize

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Speaker 15: Dak Prescott because he's got four years Ceede Lamb's got

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Speaker 15: four years and they're more than likely about to resign

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Speaker 15: Michael Parson's So there's that.

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Speaker 11: There's that window.

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Speaker 15: Brian Schottenheimer here for four years, there's that window, and

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Speaker 15: he's going to try to maximize Dak Prescott. You guys

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Speaker 15: are right, this is not the name that we were expecting.

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Speaker 15: I don't think it's the name that the fan base

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Speaker 15: was expecting, clearly just scrolling through his social media the

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Speaker 15: last couple of days.

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Speaker 11: But you can't, Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 15: You can't judge anything until we see what he is,

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Speaker 15: because we don't know what Brian Schottenheimer is yet he's

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Speaker 15: got to prove it to everybody.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 4: And the guys that they wanted are the fans wanted

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Speaker 4: to have to prove it as well. We don't know that.

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Speaker 4: We don't know if.

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Speaker 11: Ben Johnson, you don't know that.

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Speaker 4: It comes down to players. You got to have the players.

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Speaker 4: And that's the big thing is this is this roster

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Speaker 4: going to be good enough?

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Speaker 6: And that's the part, and.

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Speaker 4: That's the part. And you know, look at look at

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Speaker 4: the yesterday's games, the NFC Championship games. You know, I

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00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: don't think the Cowboys were on the same level as

884
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 4: the Eagles. We saw that in two games. I've said

885
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 4: it a bunch of times. I think they're just as good,

886
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: if not better than Washington. We've seen that. So Washington's roster,

887
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 4: a lot of them are from here. So I mean,

888
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: I think I think that you're not that far away

889
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 4: roster wise, but you got to be able to keep

890
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: it going. And you know, you're gonna lose a lot

891
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 4: of free agents. They got to make sure and keep

892
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: some of them. And that's what's going to be challenging

893
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 4: for them.

894
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 13: And I spoke to Stephen Jones after the press conference

895
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 13: about that particular thing where it's like, Okay, obviously, the

896
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 13: goal every year going into free agency is you build

897
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 13: and improve the roster. But you're in a fairly unique

898
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 13: situation in that you have twenty two looming free agents

899
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 13: inside the building. So how do you balance that challenge

900
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 13: of trying to figure out who you're bringing in from

901
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 13: the outside versus who you're trying to retain from the inside.

902
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 13: The Joys and Lewis's and the os o'diggy zoos and

903
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 13: those guys like that. So you're working through all of

904
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 13: that while you're trying to figure out what Brian Schottenheimer's

905
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 13: offensive scheme is going to look like, what he needs

906
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 13: on that side of the ball. And hey, by the way,

907
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 13: who is definitively going to be your defensive coordinator? Sounds

908
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 13: like Mike Matt Eberflus is expected to rejoin the Cowboys,

909
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 13: but you have to also get with him and say, okay, well,

910
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 13: here are the pieces that we have. Who's here's who

911
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 13: we might lose of that batch, who would you like

912
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 13: to retain, And then look at free agency outside of

913
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 13: the building and say, who do you want and then

914
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Speaker 13: comes to salary cap conversation.

915
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough task for Brian obviously having to

916
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: bring in his staff and figure out which players. You

917
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: have a lot of free agents as well, twenty six

918
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: of them who hit the market, so you've got to

919
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: figure out how they fit all in your system and

920
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: move from there. But I do want to ask where

921
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 3: should Brian Schottenheimer start as far as the staff wise,

922
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: because we don't know who his DC is, we don't

923
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: know who the offensive coordinator is, and he's going to

924
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: be calling the play. So who do you feel fits

925
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: best in those two positions difference?

926
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if the it's coordinator or not,

927
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: but better fits this offensive line. And so if that is,

928
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 4: the coordinator comes in and he's got offensive line ties

929
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 4: even better. But I you know, all the positions matter,

930
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 4: we get that, but your offensive line, if your offensive

931
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: line is cooking, your quarterback just magically gets better, your

932
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 4: running game gets better, and everything to follow. So I

933
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 4: think the offensive line and figuring out what happens there,

934
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 4: who your O line coaches, and your scheme and all

935
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff I think's big.

936
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, and when you talk about the names that have

937
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 13: been lost here recently. You know bones Fa, so you

938
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Speaker 13: lose him to Tennessee along with Rena Stewart his assistant.

939
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 13: You lose wide receivers coach Robert Prince to Miami, and

940
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 13: the one of the biggest losses is Al Harris going

941
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 13: to the Chicago Bears. First of all, you have to

942
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 13: stop the bleeding, and I think stopping that bleeding starts

943
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 13: with the Lounda Wales. You have to figure out a

944
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 13: way to keep Londa Wales in this building. And then

945
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 13: as far as adding pieces around wells on the offensive

946
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 13: side of the ball. Again, offensive line coach, what does

947
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 13: that look like? That's going to be critical for your success,

948
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 13: especially as Schottenheimer is talking about, you know, using or

949
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 13: establishing the run as a means of setting up the

950
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 13: play action. And we know that Dak Prescott excels at

951
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 13: play action. So the only way you do that is

952
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 13: if you have a thread of the run. But that

953
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 13: means your dogs up front have to absolutely mall on

954
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 13: a snap to snap basis from a defensive side of

955
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 13: the ball. Again, until we know definitively who the DC

956
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 13: is going to be, it's really difficult to know what

957
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 13: those position coaches look like right. But to remind everyone,

958
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 13: Mike McCarthy was not the only contract that expired January fourteenth,

959
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 13: So all the position coaches are in freegency as well,

960
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 13: and they have to and we said this on talking Cowboys,

961
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 13: the position coaches, if it's a situation where the Cowboys

962
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 13: want them to remain, they have to want to remain

963
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 13: with the Cowboys and this incoming regime.

964
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 15: So well, when it comes to the most important thing

965
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 15: on the docket for Brian Schottenheimer here, it's finishing the alignment.

966
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 11: That is necessary to win.

967
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 15: I know, right, I have to bring it up every time,

968
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 15: but it's finishing the alignment that has to happen if

969
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 15: you want to win games. I think that the ownership

970
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 15: and the front office and Brian Schottenheimer are aligned. Now

971
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 15: you've got to align your roster. This has got to

972
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 15: look like a Brian Schottenheimer roster and a Brian Schottenheimer

973
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 15: football team. So you mentioned some of the things that

974
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 15: he's going to want to do. Is the offensive play caller,

975
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 15: which Jerry Jones confirmed he would be doing.

976
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 11: You know, tempo shifts, motion, play action. What does that mean?

977
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 11: What does that mean?

978
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 15: They're going to look for this team historically has built

979
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 15: a lot through the draft. So this is where Brian

980
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 15: Schottenheimer and Will mcleve got to get on the same

981
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 15: page of Hey, what are we targeting in the draft

982
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 15: when they go to the Senior Bowl, when they go

983
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 15: to the Senior Bowl today or tomorrow, whenever they leave

984
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 15: and head over there, what are we.

985
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 11: Looking for and why do we need to look for

986
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 11: this position?

987
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 15: So that's got to be the first order of business,

988
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 15: because then you can round out your coaching staff to

989
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 15: mirror that. If offensive lines say is what they want

990
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 15: to look for, then you go find an offensive coordinator.

991
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 15: That's kind of history with the offensive line. If you

992
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 15: want a talented running back to come in and try

993
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 15: to change your running game, then you go maybe look

994
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 15: at for a running backs coach with a lot of

995
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 15: experience or someone with the exture of both.

996
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 11: And then defensive coordinator.

997
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 15: You know, if it is Matt eber Flus, I think

998
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 15: you look at that and you're gonna get a guy

999
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 15: who stops the run and is good at stopping the ruin.

1000
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 15: Matty Ruflu's teams has done a good job of that,

1001
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 15: and they turn the ball over, they get interceptions in

1002
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 15: the back half of the defense, So there would be

1003
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 15: some continuity there, I think with the Cowboys defense, and

1004
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 15: that's a familiar face. But for me, the most important

1005
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 15: thing on the docket for Brian shot number from day

1006
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 15: one is getting your personnel in order and having a

1007
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 15: plan for how you want to go forward in free

1008
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 15: agency too, and Stephen Jones kind of hinted at that

1009
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 15: that maybe they'd be a little bit more.

1010
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 11: I don't know. I don't know if I want to

1011
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 11: say aggressive.

1012
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 4: They're going to be. I don't mean they're gonna be.

1013
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 11: They have to be.

1014
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: They have to be. They're gonna sign more more players

1015
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: in free agency this year than they have in the

1016
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: last five oreks. Yes, and it's going to look different

1017
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 4: because it is because you've got twenty five free agents.

1018
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 4: You're not going to sign your if they signed all

1019
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: of their own guys, and they won't. They won't. But

1020
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 4: if say, let's say they did, no one would look

1021
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 4: at that and go, oh, look at them. Being a

1022
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 4: free agency you have to fill these these spots, and

1023
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: they're going to fill it more on the outside than

1024
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: on the inside, which is what a seven to ten

1025
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: team should do. So I think I don't think that

1026
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: they're going out and going to be a lot more

1027
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 4: aggressive with these great, you know, day one signings, but

1028
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 4: they're gonna have six or seven guys maybe ten from

1029
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: the outside that I think is gonna look like they're

1030
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 4: a little bit more aggressive. But you got to fill

1031
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: these spots.

1032
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 13: Yeah, And I think it leads for me a guy

1033
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 13: like Eric Kendricks, for example. You know, I was able

1034
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 13: to speak with Kendricks shortly after the Commander's game, and

1035
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 13: after we talked about what happened on the field, I

1036
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 13: asked him about his future and everything, and he said

1037
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 13: he would love to return to the Cowboys, And that was,

1038
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 13: you know, Zimmer's looming decision. Notwithstanding, he would love to

1039
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 13: remain because he loves what happened in the locker room.

1040
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 13: He saw with Eric Kendricks and some of these free

1041
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 13: agents like him who brought in on one year deals.

1042
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 13: They saw a team go through a five game losing

1043
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 13: streak and never break and never turn on each other.

1044
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 13: So you need a leader like Eric Hendricks. So when

1045
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 13: you're talking about in house free agents, that's a name

1046
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 13: that pops up at the top of my list. But

1047
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 13: then when it comes to outside free agent I do believe.

1048
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 13: I agree they're going to be more active. I would

1049
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 13: not confuse that with being all in. Yeah, right, So

1050
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 13: don't go take that and run in that direction. But

1051
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 13: they have no choice, which is what you've been saying.

1052
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 6: They have no choice.

1053
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 13: They're going to hemorrhage in house free agents. You just

1054
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 13: have to hope that they're able to figure out a

1055
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 13: way to keep like a Jordan Lewis and OsO Diggi

1056
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 13: Zuo and Eric Kendricks and then some of those on

1057
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 13: the bottom half of that twenty two to twenty six

1058
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 13: looming free agent list. You just got to know they're

1059
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 13: going to go elsewhere, and then you got to fill

1060
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 13: those spots.

1061
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: Watch for special teams too, fossils Now in Tennessee, the well,

1062
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 4: the good thing about them having they got the number

1063
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: one pick in the draft, right, which means they have

1064
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: the number one pick in the second round. Correct, So

1065
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: put a second round tender on Cavante Turpin and see

1066
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: what happens there. If the Tennessee decides to sign him,

1067
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: they're going to drop the second I mean the first

1068
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: overall pick in the second round. I mean, I don't

1069
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: think for a twenty nine year old return specialist who's dynamic.

1070
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. But I think most people

1071
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: would take the top pick in the second round conversation,

1072
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: but I think sieg is a free agent right or

1073
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 4: in Anger is every special but they have they have

1074
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 4: a punter. It's really good over there in Tennessee, I believe.

1075
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: But still watch for that kind of stuff, the good

1076
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 4: wins of the world, the special teams guys.

1077
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, for all the more reason to make sure that

1078
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 13: you lock up Brandon Aubrey. Because if you allow Brandon

1079
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 13: Aubrey to approach free agency, you know, bones fossil has

1080
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 13: his ear. Because the reason that Brandon Aubrey is in

1081
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 13: this league right now and successful is because of all,

1082
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 13: have you.

1083
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: Ever been to Tennessee in the winner, Seriously, have you

1084
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 4: ever been the stadium? Froner. Yeah, it's pretty dang cold

1085
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: and it's kind of swirling, and if you look at it,

1086
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 4: I mean, he had He's been great most of the time.

1087
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 4: His misses are outdoors Washington, Philly, those kind of things.

1088
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 4: I mean, when he's seventy yarder against Carolina, I can't

1089
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: believe he didn't make that. I'm just saying he needs

1090
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: to also know that. I mean, if I get half

1091
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 4: my state my games here indoors. You know that's that's

1092
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 4: not bad good, So it's good. So I don't think

1093
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: he would jump to any of us. But well, like

1094
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 4: you say, freege and you'll fry franchise him next year. Yea, yeah,

1095
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 4: that's any franchise.

1096
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 13: Point being is that Foster was going to be in

1097
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 13: his ear Yeah, just like he will be in coach

1098
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 13: if he poached.

1099
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: That's something that actually I was scrolling through Twitter and

1100
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey had said this on a podcast. Don't remember

1101
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: the exact one, but yeah, he had said that, you know,

1102
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm just hoping that Fossil doesn't go after my guys

1103
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 3: and Brian Ainger and Trent because that would be really.

1104
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 8: Hard for him.

1105
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 4: He also said, I'm going to try to trait he goes,

1106
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 4: he'll probably try to tampering. Sorry, it's okay, it's fine.

1107
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 13: Well, I mean one way or another, eat Man wants to

1108
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 13: cost the Titans a draft. He wants to here or

1109
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 13: just delete it from there.

1110
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 4: How like ten years ago, maybe the how we didn't

1111
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 4: get in trouble for tampering for Earl Thomas, I'll never

1112
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: know because we tried, like we talked about Earl Thomas

1113
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: over and over and over. We played a game in

1114
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 4: Seattle week three, and we thought he was just going

1115
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 4: to come back on the chart, like they're gonna make

1116
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: the train. He's gonna come back in the room, and yeah,

1117
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 4: that was a mess.

1118
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm crying, all right, Brian Schohenheimer. Obviously we don't know

1119
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: his exact system, We don't know the personnel that he

1120
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 3: wants to keep. But if you guys are Brian, what

1121
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: free agent would you start with keeping aside.

1122
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 4: For your number O?

1123
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 6: Yes, right here, yes, right now.

1124
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 13: It's a It's a dead heat between Osa and Jordan

1125
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 13: for me, and I could make the case for both

1126
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 13: that they're both one as for me, not even a

1127
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 13: one A one B. When you talk about Jordan Lewis,

1128
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 13: you're talking about a guy who is coming off of

1129
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 13: arguably in all Pro season, most certainly a Pro Bowl

1130
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 13: snub season, and he was one of the most vocal

1131
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 13: leaders on either side of the ball in the locker room,

1132
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 13: and he was not afraid to step in front of

1133
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 13: everyone and say, hey, details, this is where we're messing up.

1134
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 6: Practices aren't good enough. That's a leader.

1135
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 13: OSA is the same way a little bit more reserved,

1136
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 13: but nonetheless we know behind the scenes he's much the

1137
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 13: same way as far as impact on the field that

1138
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 13: defensive line. As Manzie Smith tries to continue to improve

1139
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 13: in year three, you don't know what you got in

1140
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 13: Justin Rodgers. You waived him, but you brought him back.

1141
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 13: Things didn't work out with Linvald Joseph Jordan Phillips. We

1142
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 13: know how that failed. Osa was the definitive guy, right,

1143
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 13: so you need that secondary Wise, you lose Trayvon Diggs,

1144
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 13: You're not going to have him back for training cap

1145
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 13: or the beginning of the season. You lost to Ron

1146
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 13: Bland for half of the season, Caitlyn Carson you ended

1147
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 13: up losing him, so forth and so on. Josh Butler,

1148
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 13: he played and broke out, and then towards acl who

1149
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 13: was the stabilizing force that entire time, it was Jordan Lewis.

1150
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 13: So for me that it's one A and one B.

1151
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 13: I mean one A in one A. I say, you

1152
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 13: got to figure out a way to keep both of them.

1153
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't think there's any question that both of

1154
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 15: those guys are in terms of defining that alignment on

1155
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 15: this roster.

1156
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 11: That's one A and one a yeah.

1157
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 15: I mean, now, you know, when you look at that

1158
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 15: Jordan Lewis and how he was able to play in

1159
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 15: the nickel, I think that with so many defenses kind

1160
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 15: of shifting closer and closer to running more and more nickel.

1161
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 15: You know, depends on who the Cowboys bring in his

1162
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 15: defensive coordinator, but regardless of where you line him up

1163
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 15: on the field, he's got the versatility.

1164
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Speaker 11: To do a lot for you on the back half.

1165
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 15: And then I've said since Ide was hired here four

1166
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 15: months ago that football is a line of scrimmage game,

1167
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 15: and you win championships with the line of scrimmage. If

1168
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 15: you want to win championships, you keep your good players

1169
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 15: on the line of scrimmage.

1170
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Speaker 11: And also Diggizu is just that.

1171
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 6: I mean, Lewis has proven.

1172
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: As being one of the old guy here. I'll talk

1173
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 4: about the old guy. I'm gonna call Zach Martin and like,

1174
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 4: what are what are we doing here?

1175
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 9: What?

1176
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 4: What are we doing? Is there football left in Zach Martin?

1177
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 4: And if if he is, if he says yes and

1178
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: and you know, wants to do that, then I got

1179
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 4: to look there also, because I'm not a believer that

1180
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: he's just forgotten how to play football at a high level.

1181
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 4: I just don't think you go from all pro to nothing.

1182
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: If he wants to same with Tank. You know DeMarcus

1183
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 4: Lawrence as well. I want to see that because from

1184
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 4: a leadership standpoint, I think I think you've got something

1185
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: there from a run stopper. But you know, Kendricks is

1186
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: another guy. What you said is great too. I mean,

1187
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 4: all those those guys, and you're not going to get

1188
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: all of them because the market's gonna you know, we

1189
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 4: saw it with Dorn's Armstrong. I mean, you're just not

1190
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 4: gonna be able to sign those a lot of those guys.

1191
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 13: Tank is a great, great answer because they were bleeding

1192
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 13: defensive ends from injury. You lost Sam Williams in training camp,

1193
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 13: You lost Michael to the high ankle spring for several games,

1194
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 13: much longer than he thought he'd be off the field.

1195
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 13: You lost Marshawn Kneeling with that overlap with Michael Parsons,

1196
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 13: and you lost Tank early and you lost them for

1197
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 13: the remainder of the season. So if you can get

1198
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 13: Tank back, because you know, once Sam Williams is back

1199
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 13: on the field, he needs grace. He's not just going

1200
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 13: to hit the ground running Marshawn Kneeling not expecting to

1201
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 13: take another step. You would hope they look to bring

1202
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 13: back a guy like Carl Lawston, who was really strong

1203
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 13: for you on the back half of last season. But

1204
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 13: when you talk about locker room leadership, you talk about

1205
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 13: still able to play at a high level.

1206
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 6: DeMarcus Lawrence is not far.

1207
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 13: Removed from his most recent Pro Bowl, so he can

1208
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 13: still get some things done.

1209
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 6: So that's a great answer.

1210
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: I like all those answers because you as your first

1211
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: year and as a head coach, you also need that

1212
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: extension of you veteran guys who know how to explain

1213
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: your system and things like that. So I think that

1214
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 3: I like those answers.

1215
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 4: You know, let mean throw in one more thing too

1216
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 4: about the coaches. The linebacker coach, that your defensive end coach,

1217
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: you know, court secondary coach. You need coaches on the

1218
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 4: field too, So you know, if you say your linebacker's

1219
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: coach is not is like a first year coach or

1220
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 4: a second or whatever I'd like to have Eric Kendricks,

1221
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: you know, they're on the squad. The same with defensive line.

1222
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 4: You know, Jordan Lewis at corner. So the veteran guys

1223
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 4: there that can kind of help coach, because the coaches

1224
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: can only do so much, you know, and so I

1225
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 4: like having I mean, I don't have enough money for

1226
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 4: all these guys we just mentioned.

1227
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 6: But then to Kendricks.

1228
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 13: To the point of Kendricks, you also look at we

1229
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 13: talked about how Overshown was present in the press conference

1230
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 13: this morning. I said, Trevon Diggs be ready. Yeah, of course,

1231
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 13: I say, how Trevon Diggs is not going to be

1232
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 13: ready for training camp to get another season. Same applies

1233
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 13: for the marinovershow So, from a linebacker standpoint, this is

1234
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 13: yet another season where the Cowboys are I don't want

1235
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 13: to say dire straits, but they're right there when it

1236
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 13: comes to the linebacker death, especially if you lose Eric Kendricks.

1237
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I want to throw one more point about

1238
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 4: this too. You just mentioned Diggs and Overshown. The Cowboys

1239
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: have had history with the injuries to both of those players.

1240
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 4: I mean both of those injuries they had. With Digs

1241
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 4: it was Noah Brown and then also with Overshown it

1242
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 4: was Connor Williams. Both of those guys were able to

1243
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 4: come back in training camp the next year and contribute

1244
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 4: and play it's not always likely pup would be would

1245
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 4: make sense, but this training staff is not ruling out anybody.

1246
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 4: And if we've done anything about overshow for sure.

1247
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean I bet on him.

1248
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been open about He's like, I'm not going

1249
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 3: to be back in December.

1250
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to be back before that.

1251
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 6: For them, I believe it.

1252
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe it too. Got to be smart with it.

1253
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 6: But yeah, here we go.

1254
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 3: I knew it was coming.

1255
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 6: I knew That's why I look back at you.

1256
00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 4: Came back.

1257
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I'd do it just to make him mad.

1258
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 13: That's all twice during.

1259
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 3: Okay, seeing a lot of the guys from both sides

1260
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: of the ball, and that press conference give you, guys

1261
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: at least a little comfort in Brian Schottenheimer and what

1262
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: he can do for this team.

1263
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 11: Well, I think it gives you.

1264
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 15: I was always comfortable in Shottenheimer as the culture guy.

1265
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 15: I mean, if you're looking for culture, Brian Schottenheimer is

1266
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 15: your guy, and he could be the guy anywhere. And

1267
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 15: so I think that the players showing up is reflective

1268
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 15: of that. But what really caught my eye in terms

1269
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 15: of what he said in terms of his players is,

1270
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 15: you know, if you're not playing to your player's strengths,

1271
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 15: whether it be schematically, gosp or.

1272
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 11: Or whatever else it may be.

1273
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 15: If you're not playing to your player strengths, and you

1274
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 15: don't have any business being in this business. And so

1275
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 15: I think that that's something that every player loves to hear, because, hey,

1276
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 15: that's telling them, look, we know what you're good at.

1277
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 15: We're going to make sure that we utilize you the

1278
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 15: right way so that we can win games.

1279
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 4: Mhm. That reminds me of another free agent than that.

1280
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: Maybe they should consider Brandon Cooks because I'm sorry they

1281
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 4: did not utilize him to his strength. He's not a

1282
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: guy that goes seven yards, turn around, catch the ball

1283
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 4: and fight with defenders. He's not. He weighs one hundred

1284
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 4: and sixty five pounds. He needs to be running down

1285
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 4: the field or across the field, stretching the you know,

1286
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: and they and they haven't done that as much as

1287
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 4: as they should. So if I'm Brandon Cooks, I'm like, see,

1288
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 4: I got a thousand yards in four other quarterbacks and

1289
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 4: I come to Dallas and yeah, he's not the number

1290
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: one receiver anymore. But they didn't utilize him the right way.

1291
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 4: So maybe that would be one too.

1292
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 13: You could consider that he wasn't always the one, the

1293
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 13: number one receiver in those thousands, yeah seasons, sometimes you

1294
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 13: play the second, second fiddle.

1295
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 6: And still was able.

1296
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 13: To to your point when when Shotty said that as

1297
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 13: an answer to my question about modernization of this scheme,

1298
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 13: the clouds parted and the gospel was saying in my

1299
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 13: ears because as a football guy, that's what you want

1300
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 13: to hear. Right again, he won the press conference because

1301
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 13: he's saying the right things. Let's see, let's see it

1302
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 13: be put in the execution and action. But it's for me,

1303
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 13: it's always players greater than signed scheme.

1304
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 6: Right.

1305
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 13: You get the players and then you build around the

1306
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 13: players as to what works and put them in positions

1307
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 13: to win. I think from a defensive standpoint, that's where

1308
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 13: Mike Zimmer struggled over the first half of the season. Obviously, injuries,

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Speaker 13: we get it, we know. But if you wonder why

1310
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 13: the Cowboys were struggling to rush the passer, why they

1311
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 13: were struggling to take the ball away, if you go

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Speaker 13: back and look at the film, and we broke it

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Speaker 13: down on every one of our podcasts, it was because

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Speaker 13: guys like for example, Donovan Wilson. He's not a cover guy,

1315
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 13: but he was being asked to cover more than he

1316
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 13: was being asked to play downhill and run support and

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00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 13: play wire to wire. So that's a perfect example of

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Speaker 13: what I mean where if you really want to be successful,

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Speaker 13: what Schottenheimer said as far as players is greater are

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00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 13: greater than scheme that is the perfect thing to say. Now,

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Speaker 13: show me, show me that you mean that. And That's

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Speaker 13: where I'm at with it.

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Speaker 11: He show me that you mean that, and show me it.

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Speaker 11: Sorry to cut back, show me that you mean that,

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Speaker 11: and show me that you can win.

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Speaker 15: I mean, at the end of the day, That's that's

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Speaker 15: all that matters with this, right right is is he's

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Speaker 15: got to win.

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Speaker 4: Everybody that has that has you know, been negative on Twitter,

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Speaker 4: and there's been a couple a couple million, and I

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Speaker 4: get it. I mean I totally understand. But you know

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Speaker 4: what most of them say, I hope I'm wrong. I hope.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they say it all the time. I hope

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Speaker 4: I'm wrong. And when they are, if they are that,

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Speaker 4: they won't you won't see those tweets again, and the

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Speaker 4: receipts and all that stuff that no one's gonna say

1337
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: all of that, and so it won't matter, you know,

1338
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Speaker 4: if they start out five and oh, five and one whatever.

1339
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Speaker 4: He's gonna have to win in the playoffs. We know that.

1340
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Speaker 4: But I mean, my point is is that you're right,

1341
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Speaker 4: it's only about winning at this point. You can't do

1342
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: anything else. You don't have to like this move. If

1343
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 4: you're not supposed to like this movie, you're really not.

1344
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Speaker 4: You're not supposed to look at his because you're like worth.

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Speaker 4: He done nothing that you would say, Oh, that's why

1346
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 4: he's a coach. The things he's the reason he's a

1347
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 4: coach is because of relationships that the things, the way

1348
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 4: he's handled himself off the field, the stuff you just

1349
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 4: can't see. So that's that's what's going to come up.

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Speaker 11: And the other thing too.

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Speaker 15: And this is from Patrick, who wrote a great article

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Speaker 15: about the press conferences.

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Speaker 11: I think that you will check out.

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Speaker 4: When have you read it? You've just a posted.

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Speaker 11: I read it when I came down here, when I

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Speaker 11: was sitting with here getting ready.

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Speaker 4: Okay, come on, I don't try to throw me out

1358
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 4: of there. You're a two years look.

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Speaker 11: So what I was saying is and I lost my

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Speaker 11: train of thought. No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 4: Great article.

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Speaker 15: It is a great article by Patrick and I think,

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Speaker 15: you know, when it comes to the experience and oh,

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Speaker 15: this guy's never been a head coach and that's all

1365
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 15: well and true, and we don't know what this is

1366
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Speaker 15: going to be.

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Speaker 11: We never will be.

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Speaker 15: I think that for him to say, you know, look

1369
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Speaker 15: back in the past when he was with the Jets,

1370
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Speaker 15: is the offensive coordinator and he had head coaching job

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Speaker 15: offers on the table from other NFL franchise to say,

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Speaker 15: you know what, I don't know if I'm ready for

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Speaker 15: this right now.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if this is my time.

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Speaker 15: And just to step back and have the maturity to

1376
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 15: step back, because that's one a big pay raise, it's two,

1377
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 15: you know, a big spotlight for you, and you know

1378
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 15: it's some that will catapult your career and it's something

1379
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Speaker 15: that you'll always have next year. And then to say,

1380
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Speaker 15: you know what, I still need some more time. I'm

1381
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 15: not ready right now. And now to come out and

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Speaker 15: say you know, I'm ready, I'm ready. And he credited

1383
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Speaker 15: Pete Carroll a ton for what he learned from him

1384
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Speaker 15: and Mike McCarthy. I mean, you think about the guys

1385
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Speaker 15: that he's learned from me, Pete Carroll, Mike McCarthy, his father,

1386
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Speaker 15: Marty Schottenheimer, who is the only head coach in NFL

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Speaker 15: history to have more than two hundred wins and not

1388
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Speaker 15: be in the Hall of Fame. I mean, that's you're

1389
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 15: coming from a pretty good tree there, And Jerry Jones

1390
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Speaker 15: said that the apple doesn't fall from the tree again.

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Speaker 15: All of this is going to have to be proven

1392
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 15: on the field. He's got to win games. But you

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01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 15: can't question this guy knows what he's talking about in football.

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Speaker 13: And when it comes to the fans, I'll say this,

1395
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 13: and this is me speaking to the fans directly. If

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Speaker 13: you're one of the fans who are taking the wait

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01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 13: and see approach before you before you buy, and I'm

1398
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 13: right there with you. I'm right there with you because

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Speaker 13: as stated at the top of this episode, I have

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Speaker 13: the pros for him coach a guy he can get

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01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 13: guys to buy in, and he's saying all the right

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Speaker 13: things as far as schematics said the.

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Speaker 6: Right time things.

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Speaker 13: But I don't know yet. I don't know what he

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 13: looks like as a head coach. So I'm waiting and

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Speaker 13: I'm seeing, and then we'll go from there. For those fans,

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Speaker 13: I'm right there with you. For the ones that say

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01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 13: are secretly or maybe not so secretly, hoping that he

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Speaker 13: fails so that you can be proven right and get

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Speaker 13: those tweets off. That's disgusting behavior because at the end

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Speaker 13: of the day, who are you actually a fan of?

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Speaker 10: Like?

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Speaker 13: Which team were you actually a fan of? So I

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Speaker 13: say that to say I am right here on the

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Speaker 13: line for Brian Schottenheimer. I see some pros, but I

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Speaker 13: have some very real concerns. Time is going to tell

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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 13: me which way I should go there. But I am

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Speaker 13: actively rooting for him to succeed because I want this

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Speaker 13: organizational draft to end. What did I say to Schottenheimer

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Speaker 13: when he was walking past up stairs?

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Speaker 6: Upstairs?

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Speaker 13: I said, hey, Shotty number six, I'm serious. I want

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01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 13: him to finally be the guy to do it. Don't

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01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 13: root against him, But if you want to take the

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 13: wait and see approach, I get it.

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Speaker 6: I'm right there with you.

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Speaker 3: I think that it's important to understand that it takes

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01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: time in order to get back to that top of

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Speaker 3: where the cowboys have been. But I did love how

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Speaker 3: he had mentioned, h you know, the things that he

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Speaker 3: learned from Pete Carroll and how he challenged him offensively,

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Speaker 3: and learning the new schemes and that the schemes that

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys have had so many issues with the past

1434
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 3: couple of years. So it's a lot of uncertainty, but

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Speaker 3: a lot of things to look forward to in this

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Speaker 3: new year.

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Speaker 13: And being extremely objective you talk about ut remember Shottenheimer's

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01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 13: resume includes a stint at Georgia and that was not

1439
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 13: a fun season. So objectively speaking, again, I see the pros,

1440
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 13: the pros, I see the concerns to help the situation. No,

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Speaker 13: I'm just letting everyone know that because there will be

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Speaker 13: some that will hop on YouTube and Twitter, oh well,

1443
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 13: you know he's he's selling I'm not selling you a

1444
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 13: damn thing. I'm telling you the pros, the positives I

1445
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 13: see in this in this young man because he's only fifty, right,

1446
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 13: I see in this young man and my very real

1447
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 13: concerns that only time will tell if they're well founded

1448
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 13: or if they can go by the wayside.

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Speaker 4: And I said that on to someone on Twitter. Listen,

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Speaker 4: I'm not a DJ. I'm not going to spend anything.

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01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 4: I'm not trying. I'm not trying to. I'm just saying, like,

1452
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 4: like if I had anything else cool to say, I might,

1453
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 4: but I can't. I can't go there other than switch

1454
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 4: and you know, now, don't the table.

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Speaker 13: Sorry, I'm gonna let you just go you don't, you

1456
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 13: don't know, just don't, all right, don't bump the table.

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Speaker 4: I think now. My point is I'm not not trying

1458
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Speaker 4: to spin it. He's saying the same thing that there's

1459
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Speaker 4: nothing to I mean, this is what. Yeah, time will

1460
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 4: tell on this situation. One thing I do like that

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Speaker 4: they said though at the end, was this seems to

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Speaker 4: be a combination of continuity, carryover and newness as well.

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Speaker 4: So it's not completely new because you know, this has

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Speaker 4: been a good football team that hasn't been a great

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Speaker 4: football team. But this has been a good football team.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to figure out how to be great and

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Speaker 4: maybe Shottenheimer can get him there.

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Speaker 2: Only time will tell.

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Speaker 3: Jerry said he likes his fundamentals, he likes his style,

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Speaker 3: he likes the lineage. It's going to be a lot

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Speaker 3: of fun to see what Brian Schtenheimer brings to the

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