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Speaker 1: This is the BFFs on Sports Great of course, of
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Sports Network. Frank, Bud. I'm doing well considering
Speaker 1: I was out pretty late for a Monday. Last night.
Speaker 1: We took h b FF Mike Florio out for some
Speaker 1: dinner Peter Luker's steak. Oh goodness, you are a rich bastard.
Speaker 1: I am not. I work with you. In fact, I
Speaker 1: work under you. Greg, so not rich. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to Peter Lukers. You know what I did last night, Frank,
Speaker 1: You finished stranger things. I liked it a lot last night,
Speaker 1: all right, But one of the things, when it was
Speaker 1: to dinner, I went down to Anchor Bar where it
Speaker 1: was Dollar Wings. I didn't get my invite. You were
Speaker 1: out with Floria the Peter Lukers where I didn't get
Speaker 1: my invite. Hey, I'm not the one who set the
Speaker 1: invites for that, just saying with the Peter Lukers man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how was it? It was pretty good. Steak was a
Speaker 1: little first time, a little too red for me. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a steak connoursur by any months. Is the
Speaker 1: first time? Yes, it was my first time. Man, Wow,
Speaker 1: it's spinach. I did get spinisch. I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Also got red wine. Didn't like that either. Steak was
Speaker 1: very good, home fries very good. French fries very good.
Speaker 1: A little fried onion straws also very good. The bread
Speaker 1: was very good. It sounds like a great night. Spinach
Speaker 1: come out. This sounds like a great red wine also out.
Speaker 1: And then we went back to my buddy's house. He
Speaker 1: watched some baseball, drank a couple of beers, and that
Speaker 1: was it. I went home. Are you doing, budd? I
Speaker 1: feel like you didn't sleep well last night, Greg, because
Speaker 1: in all honesty, you're pretty grapchy today. Man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get your snickers full transparency. Greg, very grouchy, grachy text messages.
Speaker 1: We're trying to film stuff earlier. He's got an attitude.
Speaker 1: What did you? How did you want to just film
Speaker 1: me earlier? What's going? Did something happened last night? You
Speaker 1: didn't like the ending of Stranger Things? Honest, I wouldna
Speaker 1: come out and had a great night last night. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be really proud of me because last night Dollar
Speaker 1: Ring night. Boom crushed it last night. Finished Stranger Things
Speaker 1: a day later than promise, but Boom crushed it last night.
Speaker 1: I finished and I'm ready to rock my twenty nineteen fantasy.
Speaker 1: All rankings, Your rankings are My rankings are done, right.
Speaker 1: I had a big night last night. It's a very
Speaker 1: big night. It's very productive night. It's not great. I
Speaker 1: was excited to tell you get on the show. So
Speaker 1: why everybody? My rankings are done. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: How I grach? I'm just hey, that's just the vibe
Speaker 1: that I'm getting. It's the vibe that I'm getting Grid.
Speaker 1: Let's turn around here, dude, I am not grautch. You
Speaker 1: am excited to rankings with you the high point of
Speaker 1: the day. So we're going over the first round today
Speaker 1: on our on our show sheet, I put my first
Speaker 1: top sixteen on here. Um, Frank did not at all.
Speaker 1: I have it. I have it in my own little note.
Speaker 1: He's surprised you didn't want me to see Now you
Speaker 1: know everything I'm doing. It's a surprise. Not really that
Speaker 1: far off from years, to be honest. You know what happened.
Speaker 1: You know everything I'm doing. That's okay, it is okay.
Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, I'm excited talk fantasy football. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: We're like less than a month away from the g
Speaker 1: S T raft, which I have to do myself, less
Speaker 1: than a month away for my auction draft when my
Speaker 1: big draft. Super excited about that, I am. I'm an
Speaker 1: a great mood to that. I'm in the process of
Speaker 1: planning my homely draft. We usually do it Labor Day weekend,
Speaker 1: and there's no better way to How about a Saturday,
Speaker 1: Greg August thirty one draft during the day, a e
Speaker 1: W pay per view at night. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: a great Saturday. That's a great Saturday. I believe this,
Speaker 1: you know, I realized that weekend labor the weekend in
Speaker 1: in Chicago, in Chicago for what, well, all out, we're
Speaker 1: taking plays in Chicago. No, why not? I'm on Jeff fan,
Speaker 1: Jeff's bachelor party. Screw that go to a w It's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be better. No offense, chef, I don't know, an,
Speaker 1: you're probably a pity pissed. That's gonna be a sick show.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's what we're looking at. Looking at
Speaker 1: later in the month, starting to plan some home league drafts. Obviously,
Speaker 1: might do NFFC draft the day before as well. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Friday, August. This upcoming Friday, we got the
Speaker 1: super Flex Fantasy League of experts experts, I'm I guess
Speaker 1: I'm part of that, but yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: So we'll have draft results from that coming this Friday.
Speaker 1: I'll tweet those out and then I assume Monday or
Speaker 1: next week sometime we'll talk about the results because I
Speaker 1: feel like people want to know how a super Flex
Speaker 1: draft goes down own. I guess in an expert trap
Speaker 1: right extremely to go based off of have I not
Speaker 1: told you repeatedly. I am really really going to be
Speaker 1: paying attention to what you do from eleven because I
Speaker 1: have a eleven coming up in my draft the day
Speaker 1: after Labor Day on that Tuesday. So we're all looking
Speaker 1: forward to it. We're all looking forward to, man, especially
Speaker 1: where you're picking. You cannot let me down, Frank, I
Speaker 1: need a good team from that spot. No pressure. I'll
Speaker 1: try my best, just be honest. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited myself to see what goes down taken
Speaker 1: right next to the King's goot angle, Mr King love
Speaker 1: the King. Course you gotta call the King. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta call the King. Um, all right, So yeah, so
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. We're gonna get into the first
Speaker 1: round here, the order, why we think the way we do,
Speaker 1: why our beliefs are the way they are. I'm excited
Speaker 1: at some point talking about rankings in general with you
Speaker 1: kind of see where we differ. I found out there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys I haven't like going over like
Speaker 1: my favorite guys usual highlight them in white. I have
Speaker 1: not done that yet. Um, but I'm I'm very excited, man,
Speaker 1: talk about ranking It's like it's a good day. I've
Speaker 1: been saying for a while I needed to get it done,
Speaker 1: and last night I did it all. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I like kind of published mine the
Speaker 1: other day, but it's they're not completely done yet, so
Speaker 1: I still got to go over some things and I
Speaker 1: gotta update that. Based on this A J. Green news
Speaker 1: A J. Green, of course, had a minor surgery that
Speaker 1: came out just before the show here in raports not
Speaker 1: a surprise. He still might be good to go by
Speaker 1: week one. Highly doubt that. I agree, six or eight
Speaker 1: week timetable seems optimists. I agree, but they said he
Speaker 1: you should be a hundred percent, which is nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens all. Sorry, Before the show,
Speaker 1: A columns that a three year, a hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: extension where the Blazers getting all this money from? Uh,
Speaker 1: they're very rich owners, much richer than us. James Nolan
Speaker 1: is extremely rich as well, although we wouldn't We wouldn't
Speaker 1: know based on be going to Peter Lukers last night,
Speaker 1: Greg Stack in the Big Bucks. I don't know how
Speaker 1: he had money to buy lunch to that I do.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start to death he's Frank Staff. I'm
Speaker 1: going where the BFFs very very excited our first round breakdown.
Speaker 1: That's what you guys want to know who were taking
Speaker 1: when in the first round. We'll let you know over
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Speaker 1: Do you like the sound, Greg? It's fine game the movie?
Speaker 1: Um Fast Times Baby, that's not the movie. I'mpy Austin
Speaker 1: Powers Original. Oh yeah, ast isn't it Past Times? Also Danny,
Speaker 1: he was just so sexy that he made the robots head.
Speaker 1: The vote is probably the one already. I think it
Speaker 1: wasn't Fast Times. Also, I knew, like frame, have no
Speaker 1: idea what Fast Times it is. I do know what
Speaker 1: that is. My dad loves that movie. I used to
Speaker 1: watch it with him. It's a good movie. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: so first round man, Yeah, first overall pick, we got Greg.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take time on things we know, like
Speaker 1: we agree on like without there's no question, And I
Speaker 1: think that's how I feel. The first pick, the first
Speaker 1: pick overall advantage football this year should be Sekwon Barkley.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's an argument against it. I think
Speaker 1: people have made arguments, like pretty consensus for other players,
Speaker 1: other these other running backs in this range going ahead
Speaker 1: of say, pretty consensus thought at quon Barkley's the guy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say, so. I agree with you. I have
Speaker 1: him as my number one player, number one running back.
Speaker 1: I did the white board series for the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick already, and I also had set Kwon Barkley
Speaker 1: as the number one pick. Yeah, I mean, even if
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones gets in there at some point, which I
Speaker 1: guess is the downside can really be that much worse
Speaker 1: than Eli. I don't think it's downside. It's a good side.
Speaker 1: For everything I've read about Giants training, cap Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: actually better throwing the screen, which could result in even
Speaker 1: more yards and more points, especially for a rookie. Right
Speaker 1: so if he goes through his progressions and you know
Speaker 1: he's crumbling, to throw the ball up to say Kwon Barkley.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I understand a lot of people
Speaker 1: are gonna say, like, you obviously want a running back
Speaker 1: in a better offense as your as your number one
Speaker 1: overall pick, as your first round pick, but say Klon
Speaker 1: Barkley was in a subpar offense last year as well
Speaker 1: and still finish as the number two running back behind
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. I will say this, a lot of Barkley's
Speaker 1: yards int come in chunks. There are times where yards
Speaker 1: were carry not your Georgs were carry but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of nothing that was there because the box was
Speaker 1: stacked because the Giants do you stink? But Barkley always
Speaker 1: be better. This year is absolutely that right side, totally redone.
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeisler and Mike Grammars, so that should be better.
Speaker 1: Say yeah, so, look, you won't get an argument from
Speaker 1: me here. Obviously, his usage in the past game dred
Speaker 1: and twenty targets last year from say Kwon Barkley cent
Speaker 1: of that snapso was fourth most amongst running backs. His
Speaker 1: you should in the red zone. I mean, he is
Speaker 1: a legitimate, legitimate workhorse. You don't really have to worry
Speaker 1: about anyone stealing carries away from him either. There's no
Speaker 1: brainer for me, Greg, absolutely, Okay. Then you get the
Speaker 1: number two where it is a little bit more exciting,
Speaker 1: I think, because if Sakwan is the no brainer at
Speaker 1: number two. I told you I was in the cab
Speaker 1: with bar Bacon's John and John Bacon By the way,
Speaker 1: what do you want? John has the number two pick
Speaker 1: in his draft, he was telling me, and he goes,
Speaker 1: he knows Sa Kuan's gonna go one. He wants to
Speaker 1: take Avin Kamara at two. And I go, well, I
Speaker 1: mean it's really hard between Kamara, McCaffrey, uh and Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: I know previously, Frank, you and I had talked and
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott was your number two pick. A couple of
Speaker 1: weeks back, when we originally had this discussion. But I
Speaker 1: was looking at it when I was making my rankings,
Speaker 1: and I decided, you always want to minimize risk at two,
Speaker 1: and I thought the person that minimized the risk the
Speaker 1: most for me was Christian McCaffrey at number two. And
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you why very briefly, and you can
Speaker 1: give me your number two. Obviously, this Ezekiel Elliott holdout
Speaker 1: is for now still a thing. He's in Cabo chilling
Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones saying things, Oh, you don't need to
Speaker 1: pay running back to make to win a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It's all postraight right, him and Carbo, him doing his thing,
Speaker 1: it's all austring. I think Ezekiel Elliott does show up.
Speaker 1: I think he gets a raise for this year, for
Speaker 1: next year, whatever. I'm not worried about Ezekiel Elliott like
Speaker 1: I am about Melvin Gordon. He's got an extra year
Speaker 1: on him, so I'm not worried about that necessarily. But
Speaker 1: when there aren't two guys are very comparable that I
Speaker 1: could put in the same range, that drop seek a
Speaker 1: spot for Albert Camara. He's incredible, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: But this is a small button again, it's apples. It's apples,
Speaker 1: the apples, but you're splitting hairs. Latavius Murray was signed.
Speaker 1: We've seen him be a goal line back in the past,
Speaker 1: and we've seen the Saints forever under Sean Payton used
Speaker 1: multiple running backs. Comara is the guy. I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about him in the least. But if we're splitting hairs
Speaker 1: and you're just a little bit worried about a couple
Speaker 1: of touchdowns being lost or a couple of touches not
Speaker 1: going your way, right, we saw a game where mark
Speaker 1: Ingram had twenty touches and a Mcamara only had a few.
Speaker 1: That drops him down a peg, which leads me to
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, who have like three hundred and fifty touches
Speaker 1: last year. Although new of Turner and Ron Rivera has
Speaker 1: said we want to scale that back that exactly said
Speaker 1: how because it's not like they trust anybody behind him.
Speaker 1: Maybe you involved Curtis Samuel in the backfield because he
Speaker 1: is so talented you want him to get the ball.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but there is nobody in that backfield
Speaker 1: that scares me at all. Well, Christian McCaffrey is there.
Speaker 1: He is Uh, the player that this offense is going
Speaker 1: to run through. It's not like they have a wide
Speaker 1: receivers who can to throw it too. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of dope to christ McCaffrey, a lot of
Speaker 1: running to Christan McCaffrey. It is going to be a monstrous,
Speaker 1: monstrous year from McCaffrey. CMC is my number two a
Speaker 1: player overall. It can't really argue much about it. I
Speaker 1: have Alvin Kamara as my number two running back. And look,
Speaker 1: if you just want to go based on volume, and
Speaker 1: because of that you take Christian McCaffrey, I can't blame
Speaker 1: you for that. Volume is key when it comes to
Speaker 1: fantasy football. But Alvin Kamara has kind of been the
Speaker 1: exception to that over his first two seasons, where he
Speaker 1: finishes a top four running back each of his first
Speaker 1: two years in the NFL, one plus targets exactly eighty
Speaker 1: one receptions in each of his first two seasons. Last year,
Speaker 1: we thought that he was going to regress from his
Speaker 1: thirteen touchdowns that he had as a rookie. He did not.
Speaker 1: You had eight team total touchdown. It's just while he
Speaker 1: doesn't see the same amount of snaps as a guy
Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey. McCaffrey played of his team snaps last year,
Speaker 1: and Greg's right about they don't really have a running
Speaker 1: back to speak of behind him, like they have Cameron
Speaker 1: artists Pain but whatever, that's fine. Alvin Kamar just really
Speaker 1: kind of defies all logic in terms of his efficiency,
Speaker 1: ability to score touchdowns. His red zone usage went up
Speaker 1: last year. He had fifty one red zone carries that
Speaker 1: was the second most among all players in the NFL
Speaker 1: last year. Is red zone targets went up, So it's
Speaker 1: usage in the red zone, the fact that he really
Speaker 1: he still plays in a really really good offense indoors
Speaker 1: on the fast track. You're splitting hairs here, I get it.
Speaker 1: I think that there's a little bit more downside when
Speaker 1: it comes to Christian McCaffrey and the Panthers, just because
Speaker 1: Cam Newton is coming off that shoulder surgery, so it's
Speaker 1: somebody to pay attention to. He has looked good in
Speaker 1: training camp so far, so I will give him that.
Speaker 1: And the fact that the Panthers have said that they're
Speaker 1: going to scale Christian McCaffrey back a little bit. So
Speaker 1: again we're splitting hairs here. But I think Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: is a had been safer, So he's my number two player.
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey my number three. It's interesting because we're both
Speaker 1: putting the player at two that we think tad been safer.
Speaker 1: For me, that's McCaffrey. For you, it's Camara. I think
Speaker 1: in an auction, I am gonna keep saying this I
Speaker 1: do in my auction coming up. I think in auction
Speaker 1: at the same price, like there's still, um, there's no
Speaker 1: one I'm spending like a dollar more for you. You
Speaker 1: go with which uh, you go to, whichever one ultimately
Speaker 1: is cheaper. Uh. You look at these numbers and they're
Speaker 1: extremely extremely comparable in both directions. Hundred and seven receptions
Speaker 1: last year for Christian McCaffrey, a thousand yards on the
Speaker 1: ground as well um for Alvin Camara eighty one receptions
Speaker 1: back to back seasons. Although I do find an interesting
Speaker 1: because he didn't really get going um in the in
Speaker 1: his first season. There's a couple of games in I
Speaker 1: don't know whatever that whatever to make of that in
Speaker 1: terms of Christian McCaffrey Camara, because it's reek a year
Speaker 1: like if he was there, he was there. So they
Speaker 1: they's had a lot of running backs to start the season.
Speaker 1: I agree. I just find it interesting that his reception
Speaker 1: to didn't go up from year one a year two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that's fair. I mean, Michael Thomas has did
Speaker 1: last year, so perhaps a few of those targets, and
Speaker 1: Jared Cook is now there too, And we know that,
Speaker 1: you know, having a good tight end. There's a direct
Speaker 1: correlation between tight end targets and running back targets. But
Speaker 1: I think that the Saints and Sean Payton, they know
Speaker 1: how valuable Alvin Kamara is in the past game and
Speaker 1: the type of mismatched mismatches that he creates. The same
Speaker 1: thing could be said for Christian McCaffrey. But I just
Speaker 1: trust the Saints offense a little bit more and the
Speaker 1: fact that we've seen Alvin Kamara now do it for
Speaker 1: two straight years. Christian McCaffrey was awesome last year, and
Speaker 1: again we're splitting hairs. So I still have McCaffrey as
Speaker 1: my RB three, But obviously I have to make the
Speaker 1: argument for why I have Kamar number two. Those are
Speaker 1: the reasons why, all right, And you heard my reasons
Speaker 1: of course for CMSC at two verses of Camara. There
Speaker 1: are two three for both of us, just in opposite directions.
Speaker 1: UM at number four, and we we both have zeq
Speaker 1: Eli I mentioned him briefly. Are you not concerned? Not
Speaker 1: not concerned about the holdout but cant turned enough to
Speaker 1: ease at four now? UM, But you're not concerned that
Speaker 1: it will last the regular season or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Again, the date is August six
Speaker 1: that we have to pay attention to. If he's not
Speaker 1: there by August six, then this upcoming season will not
Speaker 1: count as an accrude season. And Ezekiel Elliott needs that
Speaker 1: in order to eventually get to free agency if that's
Speaker 1: what he wants to do and get paid ultimately. But
Speaker 1: as of now, Ezekiel Elliott is my RB four because
Speaker 1: he's holding out. If he were not holding out, I
Speaker 1: would actually have him ahead of Christian McCaffrey as well,
Speaker 1: just because he let the NFL and touches last year
Speaker 1: three one touches. He only scored nine touchdowns, which is
Speaker 1: weird because that was in fifteen games. The year before
Speaker 1: he had nine touchdowns and only ten games. So based
Speaker 1: on how much he touches the ball, you would imagine
Speaker 1: that his touchdown regression should be positive this year, and
Speaker 1: that you're looking at Zeke anywhere from like ten to
Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns, maybe even more than that personally, But because
Speaker 1: he's holding out, if I were drafting right now, I
Speaker 1: would take those other running backs ahead of him, just
Speaker 1: because I don't have that threat of a hold up.
Speaker 1: Fair to say that in a super flex these four
Speaker 1: would be the same before. No matter what format, these
Speaker 1: four the four. Yes, I agree, I would not take
Speaker 1: patrohomes over any of them. I agree with you. Number
Speaker 1: five is where it's interesting for both of us. Let
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Speaker 1: to the top four. For me, it goes Barkley, McCaffrey,
Speaker 1: Kimara Zeke. For you, it goes Barkley, Kmara, McCaffrey, Zeke,
Speaker 1: same four, slightly different order with two three. Now we
Speaker 1: get to number five. What do you got? So this
Speaker 1: is where we're most likely going to differ. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with David Johnson. And you're seeing that with
Speaker 1: the ADP this year, the first round running backs are back.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants a workhorse running back. And you know, despite
Speaker 1: David Johnson, you know, playing in an neft offense last year,
Speaker 1: he still finishes a top twelve running back. He played
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the snaps, that was fifth most amongst
Speaker 1: running backs last season, uh sixteen attempts inside of the
Speaker 1: ten sent of his team's carriage He's gonna still be
Speaker 1: used inside of the inside of the red zone and
Speaker 1: on the go line. There's just no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: He's getting paid a ton of money. The bat, the
Speaker 1: running back behind him, Chase Edmonds, is not built the
Speaker 1: same type of way that David Johnson is. And you
Speaker 1: can just see it last year the way that Mike
Speaker 1: McCoy and the Cardinals were using David Johnson basically just
Speaker 1: running him into the back of the offensive line right
Speaker 1: up the middle, over and over. That's not the way
Speaker 1: to get the most out of David Johnson. And I
Speaker 1: think that Cliff Kingsbury is equipped to figure that out.
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, when David Johnson had that
Speaker 1: monster year, Bruce Arians used him as a wide receiver
Speaker 1: a lot. He got him out in the screen game.
Speaker 1: That's where he had all those receptions, scored twenty total touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He was amazing. And last year they the Cardinals were
Speaker 1: only thirty first in offensive plays ran. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: in my mind that pace is going to go up
Speaker 1: under Cliff Kingsbury. Texas Tech each of the past four
Speaker 1: seasons ranked top ten in offensive plays per game. Last year, specifically,
Speaker 1: they ranked fourth obviously Kyler Murray is there. I just
Speaker 1: expect this offense to be much better, run more plays.
Speaker 1: They're going to be electric. There's gonna be scoring opportunities,
Speaker 1: and David Johnson is going to be at the forefront
Speaker 1: of that. Still some concerns about the offensive line, but
Speaker 1: we have to remember last year their offensive line was
Speaker 1: so bad because basically everybody was hurt. If it's a
Speaker 1: big if they can stay healthy, this offensive line I
Speaker 1: think can be decent, decent enough for David Johnson to
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. He's my fifth overall player, Greg,
Speaker 1: So for all the reasons that you mentioned, David Johnson
Speaker 1: is my next running back on the board. He he is,
Speaker 1: and I think he's upside. You've changed that, then, didn't
Speaker 1: you have James Conner? Originally I did, And I've changed
Speaker 1: that when I kind of did some research last night,
Speaker 1: and I think the upside for David Johnson is simply
Speaker 1: higher than my man James Conner or Levian Bell. And
Speaker 1: this pass game usage is just mass And because of that,
Speaker 1: I changed it and had David Johnson as my next
Speaker 1: ranked running back. The amount of plays are gonna run
Speaker 1: is going to multiply. Uh, The amount that I think
Speaker 1: the rookie running back will use David Johnson and Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury will use the talent around him. He's just gonna
Speaker 1: be better than what Steve Wilkson Mike McCoy did last year.
Speaker 1: As long as you can stay healthy. I think he
Speaker 1: has the most upside and that's why I have him
Speaker 1: as my next rank running back. But that doesn't make
Speaker 1: my next ranked player because in the first round, I
Speaker 1: think you're trying to minimize as much risk as humanly possible,
Speaker 1: and there is risk with David Johnson as as good
Speaker 1: as he was last year, finishing inside the top ten
Speaker 1: at the running back spot on the week to week basis,
Speaker 1: it was frustrating. As I've talked to David Johnson owners,
Speaker 1: I get it, you didn't get what you were hoping for.
Speaker 1: And when you're drafting the first round, I don't want
Speaker 1: to not get what I'm hoping for. I don't want
Speaker 1: to have to worry. And that's why my number five
Speaker 1: overall player is my top wide receiver on the board,
Speaker 1: and that is DeAndre Hopkins. Now, for me, you're splitting
Speaker 1: hairs when it comes to Davante Adams and DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: they're both remarkable. Nobody has read more red zone targets
Speaker 1: over the last two seasons than Davante Adams. It's a
Speaker 1: better office with Green Bay eats Aaron Rodgers. I know, Frank,
Speaker 1: you've talked about how Davanta Adams is your top wide
Speaker 1: receiver on the board, but once again we're talking about
Speaker 1: the running backs. We were splitting hairs a little bit.
Speaker 1: You're just trying to find a little a few differences.
Speaker 1: I do want to go back to a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago where Demanta Adams had these major concussion issues,
Speaker 1: and that small thing made me last year whoever was
Speaker 1: extremely hired Debonta Adams. If you remember, I dread to
Speaker 1: Geronimo Allison everywhere as a handcuff, and I was just
Speaker 1: nervous because I know how amazing that Adams is. If
Speaker 1: you can stay healthy, he's going to produce a season
Speaker 1: like he did last year, where it's an unbelievable amount
Speaker 1: of touchdown, unbelievable amount of yards in that offense, and
Speaker 1: he's only going to sustain that there is he's the
Speaker 1: true number one guy. He's amazing and he's great. I
Speaker 1: trust that DeAndre Hopkins has been nicked up. He's had
Speaker 1: some muscle injuries. But don't don't get me wrong, but
Speaker 1: the other the Adams can be one concussion away from
Speaker 1: missing the season, and that really really scared me enough
Speaker 1: to move DeAndre Hopkins over him. DeAndre Hopkins is that
Speaker 1: physical freak that is always gonna be involved. Uh, certainly
Speaker 1: in the offense. Again, you're splitting hairs here for me.
Speaker 1: That one little bit that I think Hopkins is a
Speaker 1: better bet to stay healthy than Adams pushes me. Having
Speaker 1: Hopkins ahead of Adams, and he's simply more of a
Speaker 1: short thing than any of the next running backs, including
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell, James Conner, and the man that we
Speaker 1: both have as our next running back, David Johnson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with you. I can't disagree with anybody
Speaker 1: who wants to take DeAndre Hopkins over Advantae Adams. Me personally,
Speaker 1: Greg mentioned it. I do have Davontae Adams as my
Speaker 1: wide receiver one, even with the concussion issues. He's played
Speaker 1: at least fourteen games in each of the past three seasons.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is more durable. He is one of, if
Speaker 1: not the most durable wide receiver in the game. I
Speaker 1: believe He's only just one game in his five or
Speaker 1: six year career, so he's extremely durable. And you know,
Speaker 1: outside of a season with Brock Osweiler as his quarterback,
Speaker 1: He's finished basically as a top four wide receiver each
Speaker 1: of the past three seasons, so he's just incredibly consistent.
Speaker 1: Might be the pound for pound best wide receiver in
Speaker 1: the game. For me, I have Davontae Adams just one
Speaker 1: spot ahead of him. He's my sixth rank player, just
Speaker 1: behind uh David Johnson. So those top five running backs
Speaker 1: off the board, I would go with Davanta Adams, and
Speaker 1: then I have Hopkins as my seventh overall player. But
Speaker 1: for Adams, it's just the combination of having Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: trust Aaron Rodgers as his quarterback. His usage in the
Speaker 1: red zone. Nobody has more red zone targets then Davante
Speaker 1: Adams over the past three seasons is seventy seven red
Speaker 1: zone targets. Nobody has more receiving touchdowns than Davantae Adams
Speaker 1: over the past three seasons thirty five touchdowns in forty
Speaker 1: five games. It's just a massive, massive rate. And there
Speaker 1: were some reports in the off season of Aaron Rodgers saying,
Speaker 1: you know, he wants to get Davanta Adams even more
Speaker 1: targets this season. I will admit a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: more than a couple of it was like four or
Speaker 1: five years ago. Now, at this time, Jordy Nelson goes
Speaker 1: down with to a C. L. Gray. We were all
Speaker 1: expecting Davanta Adams to take that next step. He was
Speaker 1: not ready. It was painfully obvious to watch. He was
Speaker 1: not ready to be a wide receiver one. He has
Speaker 1: come a long way in terms of his route running,
Speaker 1: is releases off the line of scrimmage, his hands, uh,
Speaker 1: his ability to show up against top corners. He is
Speaker 1: every bit a wide receiver one at the NFL level
Speaker 1: that you're going to find. I truly do believe that.
Speaker 1: So because of those reasons, I have as my wide
Speaker 1: receiver one my six pick, and I have DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: as my seventh. I'm obviously not worried about Davonte Adams
Speaker 1: not being the true wide receiver one. We've long passed
Speaker 1: those days. With some people that don't believe it, that's stupid.
Speaker 1: It's it's stupid. And I'm looking at the numbers between
Speaker 1: Hopkins and Adams and just for the record, there are
Speaker 1: five six For me, I have David Johnson at number seven,
Speaker 1: So again it's more about short thing. I trust those
Speaker 1: guys simply more than I trust David Johnson. That's how
Speaker 1: it's five, six and seven for me. Frank has the
Speaker 1: five same five six and seven, just a little bit
Speaker 1: of a different order. Um. Dere Hopkins last year had
Speaker 1: four more receptions, had like two or so more yards,
Speaker 1: and had two less touchdowns. Ultimately, DeVante Adams toucheddown. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're flukey, but that can go either way.
Speaker 1: Two more touchdowns right in either direction. Yes, Hopkins did
Speaker 1: play one extra game than Adams day, but I could
Speaker 1: be expected given adams injury history. Adams did average one
Speaker 1: war point per game fantasy wise than Hopkins did. But again,
Speaker 1: you're literally splitting hairs. They're so consistent, Greg, how about that.
Speaker 1: Davanta Adams had eight yards are touched on in every
Speaker 1: game he played last year. DeAndre Hopkins seventy four yards
Speaker 1: are touched on in every game. I mean, that type
Speaker 1: of consistency is just massive. It's unmatched when you're looking
Speaker 1: at the half point PPR format, which is what we
Speaker 1: typically play in. But Basically, these top wide receivers, specifically
Speaker 1: Hopkins and Adams are just a tad behind what those
Speaker 1: running backs have done the past couple of So you know,
Speaker 1: everyone's saying, oh, well, you I want to lock down
Speaker 1: a running back. They they touched the ball more, they're
Speaker 1: they're prones who scoring more points. It's not necessarily true
Speaker 1: they scored more points, but it's very very close. Like
Speaker 1: these wide receivers are just behind those top work horse
Speaker 1: running backs. Correct, both of these wide receivers outside the
Speaker 1: top four running backs for me, that workhorse running back.
Speaker 1: That's it, right, those four in my mind, or those
Speaker 1: workhorse running backs. And that's why I have Hopkins and
Speaker 1: Adams at five, six, and then David Johnson to kind
Speaker 1: of start the next year running backs. You don't obviously.
Speaker 1: Now before we move on, um is to number eight
Speaker 1: for both of us. Before we move on there, I
Speaker 1: do want to bring up the super flex once again,
Speaker 1: because more and more people are playing in super flex.
Speaker 1: Would you take Patrick Mahomes before any of these three players? No,
Speaker 1: not me personally. You can make the argument for it, obviously,
Speaker 1: and I do believe this gives you a huge advantage
Speaker 1: and super flex I do think that he is that
Speaker 1: much better than the next quarterback. But me personally, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, so I actually would. I would take
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes at five, ahead of both wide receivers and
Speaker 1: David Johnson. I think the advantage you get from Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes in this Chief's offense, He's just astronomical. Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: bad only a bit of a calf injury, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: had some injury issues to Shawn Watson. Uh, not nearly
Speaker 1: as consistent as the other three in my estimation. Uh.
Speaker 1: So Mahomes gives you the significant advantage in the super
Speaker 1: flex league where it's so so valuable to get a
Speaker 1: quarterback now depending on the four point four point touch
Speaker 1: passing touchdowns versus six point. So for me, Mahomes actually
Speaker 1: would be my number five player in a super flex league. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then I would get to Adams and Hopkins. Uh and
Speaker 1: David Johnson. What if I told you you can get
Speaker 1: Watson or Rogers in round two? Does that change your opinion? No,
Speaker 1: because I think you can do that like that that
Speaker 1: I would. I would expect Luck would go in round
Speaker 1: one with Mahomes and the other two would go in
Speaker 1: round two. Okay, so just for a reference, the scott
Speaker 1: Fish Bowl league that we play, and it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different, but it is super flex is the tight
Speaker 1: end also works has a premium. But Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 1: my draft went with the seventh pick, so he isn't
Speaker 1: that range. And then the next quarterback was the Shawn
Speaker 1: Watson who went in the middle of the second round.
Speaker 1: And that's again I would take Luck and Rodgers before
Speaker 1: Watson personally, but Mahomes in the first round. I have
Speaker 1: a number five I think when I come to super flex,
Speaker 1: but again, it's so hard with rankings. You just gotta
Speaker 1: have a feel for the draft basic and quarterback is
Speaker 1: just still so deep too. I keep hitting on that
Speaker 1: number twenty two. There's twenty two quarterbacks that I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind having as my QB one or super flex, and
Speaker 1: you can get those guys all the way into like
Speaker 1: round eight or nine in a super flex draft, so
Speaker 1: I don't really mind going that route. Seven players down,
Speaker 1: eat through twelve coming up next, Craggy, you kind of
Speaker 1: know what my my rounds looking like. I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see your first round conclusion how it looks when we return.
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Speaker 1: the same foot he hurt last year, I would think
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Speaker 1: other foot, you know it just twisted it then just
Speaker 1: twist acol injuries don't I've twin ligments and full thankles.
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Speaker 1: pick number eight here. Frank Stafle and Greg Susman the
Speaker 1: BFPS hope you're enjoying our first down breakdown. Tomorrow we'll
Speaker 1: continue the round round break think it's the number two.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, as we get in the middle rounds,
Speaker 1: it will be very, very different. So it's like we'll
Speaker 1: probably just at that point get like player comparisons and
Speaker 1: we'll break off from there. You just do I guess
Speaker 1: like mid round analysis. It's I'm gonna go like, oh, fourth, fifth, six, correct,
Speaker 1: we'll do We'll do the second round. Maybe you'll do
Speaker 1: the third round. That would probably be let's say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think next week we're getting a player analysis mid
Speaker 1: round players and then trying to do some comparisons, get
Speaker 1: a sleeper's bust, a lot of good stuff, all right,
Speaker 1: makes sense? Cool? So oh, at player number eight, Frankie,
Speaker 1: we have we have the same top seven, which is
Speaker 1: not which is not like the guarantee of this year.
Speaker 1: By the way, like we happen to have the same
Speaker 1: top seven. We needn't talk about it at all. First four,
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna have. But after that it's kind of a
Speaker 1: crapshot a little bit. We do have the next five,
Speaker 1: same five, six, and seven, different order, the same top seven.
Speaker 1: Indeed my top seven and frank would be his in
Speaker 1: a moment. It begins with Sae Kwon Barkley, Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 1: Alvin Camara, Isekuel Elliott, DeAndre Hopkins, DeVante Adams, and David Johnson.
Speaker 1: That's my top seven for Frank. He goes sa Kwon Barkley,
Speaker 1: Alban Camara, Christian McCaffrey, Ezekiel Elliott, David Johnson, DeVante Adams,
Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins at number eight. Frank, who you got
Speaker 1: number eight? I actually have Julio Jones for a lot
Speaker 1: of the reasons that you had the wide receivers ahead
Speaker 1: of David Johnson. It's just that for me, the next
Speaker 1: running backs that are up, Levian Bell, Joe Mixon, James Conner,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more risk involved with those picks,
Speaker 1: and I just think Julio Jones is so safe. He
Speaker 1: hasn't finished lower than wide receiver seven each of the
Speaker 1: past three seasons. He's had fourteen hundred or more receiving
Speaker 1: yards each of the past three seasons as well. He
Speaker 1: scored eight touchdowns last year. All eight of those came
Speaker 1: from Week eight on, and the last time he played
Speaker 1: with Dirt Cutter as the o C he actually had
Speaker 1: a career high in terms of red zone targets. So
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we can get back there, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe we can get to that double digit touchdown range
Speaker 1: for Julio Jones. If that's the case, he might threaten
Speaker 1: to be the wide receiver one. We know that the catches,
Speaker 1: the catches, the targets, the yards are all going to
Speaker 1: be there. The Atlanta Falcons have a ton of games
Speaker 1: indoors this year, which just bodes well for Julio Jones.
Speaker 1: So for the same reasons you have those wide receivers
Speaker 1: at five and six, Greg, I have Julio Jones a
Speaker 1: couple of spots ahead of these next this next group
Speaker 1: of running backs because I think that there's a little
Speaker 1: bit more risk involved with those guys, So I have
Speaker 1: Julio Jones at eight. I think it's interesting because people
Speaker 1: always think about Hula Jones. You think, with the nagging
Speaker 1: foot and he's not playing at all in the preseason,
Speaker 1: the rest that foot and rest his body. But Julio
Speaker 1: Jones has played sixteen games and three of the last
Speaker 1: four seasons, and a lot of those injury issues that
Speaker 1: he had earlier's career they're gone. Last year might have
Speaker 1: been his best season yet with those sixteen hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy seventy yards, a hundred seventy targets second most of
Speaker 1: his career UH and eight touchdowns second most of his career,
Speaker 1: and as Frank said, all those touchdowns came after Week
Speaker 1: number eight. Preshdowns are probably probably going on as long
Speaker 1: as he can stay healthy back in this Dirk Cutter offense.
Speaker 1: He is just thirty years old still, so he's not
Speaker 1: like old for a wide receiver. And a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought maybe they're Geff and Calvin Realley the second
Speaker 1: coming here, but Julia Jones still in a class of
Speaker 1: his own, and he is once again the next wide
Speaker 1: receiver that I have on my board, and he is,
Speaker 1: but I don't have him yet. I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: to the well with the running backs, and I'm actually
Speaker 1: going to I'm gonna go with Levyan Bell. And I know, Greggy,
Speaker 1: come on yesterday or or the other day, you said
Speaker 1: James Conner was your RB five. Now he's dropping down
Speaker 1: the board now, and now he's dropped all the way
Speaker 1: down to RB seven. Spoiler Alerter. But Levyan Bell again,
Speaker 1: you're looking for safety and I'm not taking I don't
Speaker 1: want to take too much out of contacts. But I
Speaker 1: love James Connas. I don't buy any of the nonsense
Speaker 1: that he he's not going to be the guy like
Speaker 1: there's that birdie in the back of your head that
Speaker 1: like maybe Jalen Samuel's is a little bit more involved
Speaker 1: than you want him to be. I still trust James
Speaker 1: Conner in every fast of the game. Lavian Bell is
Speaker 1: ready to carry the ball five hundred times, as he
Speaker 1: apologized to fantasy owners yesterday, as much as Adam Gays
Speaker 1: will give him the ball, he'll get it. And we
Speaker 1: saw last year with Adam Gates Hope he handed the
Speaker 1: ball repeatedly to Frank Gore, Frank freaking Gore, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't a split running back situation. And mean Kennyan Drake
Speaker 1: was a passing down back. Sometimes it was Frank Gore's
Speaker 1: backfield man. And when you have a guy the quality
Speaker 1: of Lavian Bell, he's going to hand him the ball.
Speaker 1: He's going to get the ball out of the backfield
Speaker 1: from Sam Donald. And I think Lavian Bell just is
Speaker 1: it just like tad Bit Safer probably then James Conner. Now,
Speaker 1: the Steeler's offensive line is going to be better than
Speaker 1: the Jets offensive line, no doubt in my mind. So
Speaker 1: that's certainly a check mark in the column for James
Speaker 1: might have a top five unit for the Steelers versus
Speaker 1: a bottom five units. So I think that's an argument.
Speaker 1: And to me, I go back in the fourth as
Speaker 1: you know, right this second, I put lady On Bell
Speaker 1: one spot higher than Connor, who is next. They are
Speaker 1: eight nine. Uh, Julio Jones is ten for me. But
Speaker 1: you look at Will Laban did in his last full
Speaker 1: season fifteen games in seventeen for Pittsburgh yards four touchdowns
Speaker 1: on the ground, two more in the air with eighty
Speaker 1: five receptions. It's a different offense. I get it. But
Speaker 1: even Adam Gays Campy, that's stupid not to utilize his
Speaker 1: best offensive weapon, that's Levian Bell. For me, we're in
Speaker 1: dangerous territory here, Greg, I know. And and then you're
Speaker 1: after what I just said, you thought maybe I should
Speaker 1: put Julio next, Like I get it, right, um, And
Speaker 1: maybe I will ultimately, But when I got back to
Speaker 1: the running backs before they go up, I have Julio
Speaker 1: kind of in the next year with the other wide receivers,
Speaker 1: with Michael Thomas and somebody else, which I get to
Speaker 1: you last. I want to reveal that yet. Um. But
Speaker 1: for me, Lady On Bell is sitting at player number eight,
Speaker 1: followed by James Conner at nine, followed by Julio Jones
Speaker 1: at ten. So who is your all? Right? Your seven
Speaker 1: was David Johnson? Then okay, so I have I have
Speaker 1: Julio Jones at eight, I have Levian Bell at nine,
Speaker 1: I have James Conner attend So through ten, same guys,
Speaker 1: we have the same group of players, just not in
Speaker 1: the same order. And that's changed a little bit too,
Speaker 1: because I believe earlier had Joe Mixing ahead of James Connor.
Speaker 1: Now a little bit earlier, yes I did, but I
Speaker 1: changed that actually, like last week, just it just didn't
Speaker 1: make sense to have Joe Mixing ahead of James Conner.
Speaker 1: Just Connor's offensive line so much better, his offense overall
Speaker 1: just much better. His quarterback is better. I mean, a
Speaker 1: system that we can trust, that we have trusted for
Speaker 1: years now when it comes to fantasy. So you know,
Speaker 1: I really like Joe Mixing, that I needed a talented player,
Speaker 1: but I think the situation for James Connor and the
Speaker 1: Steelers overall is just a better one when it comes
Speaker 1: to Levian Bell. Look, there is risk involved. Shout out
Speaker 1: to shout out to Blake Bailey and uh he had
Speaker 1: Mike Taglier on his podcast recently and I listened to
Speaker 1: that yesterday and they were making the case against Levian Bell,
Speaker 1: and it basically had this to say that if you
Speaker 1: don't have a top fifteen offense, it's much harder to
Speaker 1: finish as a top twelve running back if you play
Speaker 1: in like what the bottom half of the league offenses.
Speaker 1: And we all expect the Jets too well, we expect
Speaker 1: them to progress and be better offensively, they're probably still
Speaker 1: not a top half of the league offense. So it
Speaker 1: just makes things difficult for a running back because your
Speaker 1: ability to score touchdowns to get down the field. Obviously
Speaker 1: we expect Levian Bell to be used in the red zone,
Speaker 1: but how often are the Jets going to be in
Speaker 1: the red zone? Are they gonna have a lot of
Speaker 1: three and ounce this year? If you know their offense
Speaker 1: is not clicking. And you also have to bring in
Speaker 1: bring into the back of your mind the fact that
Speaker 1: Adam Gates the past couple of years with the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins has been one of the slowest offensive teams in
Speaker 1: the league in terms of plays run. So that's why
Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit more risk involved obviously.
Speaker 1: With with Levian Bell and the Jets, I still have
Speaker 1: them ranked ahead of James Connor because for the reasons
Speaker 1: that Greg mentioned, they're still jail and Sam Samuel's they've
Speaker 1: talked him up, they drafted Benny Snell, so you have
Speaker 1: that kind of in the back of your mind. I think,
Speaker 1: at least when it comes to Bell, I don't really
Speaker 1: worry about Time Montgomery, I don't really worry about anyone
Speaker 1: else on the Jets. Powell, I don't really worry about
Speaker 1: these guys. They're paying Levian Bell a boatload of money.
Speaker 1: I think that he's going to be a workhorse running
Speaker 1: back and they're going to try and get the most
Speaker 1: out of him that they possibly can. So because of
Speaker 1: that volume, I have him one spot ahead of James Conner.
Speaker 1: But you can definitely make the argument that James Conner's
Speaker 1: situation overall is better than that of Levian Bell. So
Speaker 1: we're totally in the same in the same ballpark. Here.
Speaker 1: The reason why we have Bell over Connor ever so slightly,
Speaker 1: the reason why we have David Johnson over both of
Speaker 1: those guys ever so slightly, Julio Jones for both of us,
Speaker 1: that next wide receiver. So we have the same top
Speaker 1: ten a little bit different order. But again, I can't
Speaker 1: kill you if you want to. If you feel strongly
Speaker 1: in a different way like you want Pellulio Jones up
Speaker 1: like frank did, he doesn't bother me. I actually feel
Speaker 1: more strongly about drafting Hopkins and Adams at five six
Speaker 1: over David Johnson than I do drafting Bell and Connor
Speaker 1: over Julio Jones in all honesty. Yeah, that's that's that's me,
Speaker 1: And I know you have your reasons too. Now, two
Speaker 1: more spots to go. We get to number eleven. In
Speaker 1: number twelve, Frankie, for you, who do you have an eleven?
Speaker 1: Number eleven? I do have Joe Mixon. I have these
Speaker 1: three running backs back to back to back. It's Levian Bell,
Speaker 1: James Connor, and Joe Mixon. Again, I think that Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon is a really talented player. You know, everyone's talking
Speaker 1: about how bad their offensive line is. They've already lost
Speaker 1: Joan Williams their first round pick, and a J. Green
Speaker 1: goes down and that obviously hurts the offense. But their
Speaker 1: offensive line was really bad last year. Their offense was
Speaker 1: in shambles last year. There were a lot of injuries
Speaker 1: and Joe Mixon still finishes the RB nine overall, He's
Speaker 1: still finished four point nine yards per carry behind a
Speaker 1: not so good offensive line. He is that talented, oh
Speaker 1: a player. He played of the snatch that was tied
Speaker 1: for eighth most amongst running backs. So it was a
Speaker 1: different regime. But Zach Taylor comes in and he was
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator under Sean McVeigh. He didn't call plays there.
Speaker 1: I believe this is the second time he'll be calling
Speaker 1: plays in his life. He was like an interim offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Miami Dolphins a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: But he's studied under Sean McVeigh, and my hope is
Speaker 1: that they're going to use Joe Mixon similar to the
Speaker 1: way that Sean McVeigh has used Odd Girley, in that
Speaker 1: he's a workhorse. The receptions could go up for Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: Um He averaged exactly twenty touches per game already last year,
Speaker 1: sixteen point nine carries per game, three point one receptions,
Speaker 1: So I like him. I think that he's gonna be
Speaker 1: used a lot. He's gonna be used a lot in
Speaker 1: the red zone. I think the receptions go up I'm
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Giovanni Bernard doesn't take that much away
Speaker 1: from him. Um. And for all those reasons, I still
Speaker 1: do want a workhorse running back at this end of
Speaker 1: the first round area, and I trust that no matter
Speaker 1: who comes back to me in the second round as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, I'm gonna get a really good one,
Speaker 1: whether it's Juju, Michael Thomas, Odell Beckham. So I don't
Speaker 1: mind taking Joe Mixon first and then taking whatever wide
Speaker 1: receivers available in round two. So I have Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: as my eleventh rank player, so I understand the strategy there.
Speaker 1: But for me, I do question that offensive line in
Speaker 1: a major way. And I don't know the Zack Taylor offense.
Speaker 1: Like throw out the Miami year. He's learned a lot
Speaker 1: from Sean McVeigh. I think it's very impressive what he
Speaker 1: did finishing as the top ten running back with his
Speaker 1: brutal offensive line. But I think there are a question
Speaker 1: marks about how bad this Bengals team will be. And
Speaker 1: you mentioned what Mike Tagle year, right, sure, if we
Speaker 1: imagine what Mike Tagler said, it's just it's it's harder
Speaker 1: when this team is bad. It's harder, and because of that,
Speaker 1: I do not have Joe Mixon drafted in the first round.
Speaker 1: From it, I'm gonna go with my next ranked wide receiver,
Speaker 1: and that is the Saints Michael Thomas. I know he
Speaker 1: has not reported a training camp yet. I think he
Speaker 1: ultimately will. I'm not concerned about to hold out there.
Speaker 1: I just played sixteen games each the last two years,
Speaker 1: um and last season, I mean, he was a man
Speaker 1: amongst boys for much of the year. You know, he
Speaker 1: went through a middle stretch in the middle of the year.
Speaker 1: We score the whole touchdowns, but the receptions are always there.
Speaker 1: He's by far the number one target in this opense.
Speaker 1: It's kind of want obviously push the ball down the field. Yes,
Speaker 1: you're concerned that you run the ball more. Yes, you're
Speaker 1: concerned that Drew Brees isn't the same quarterback he used
Speaker 1: to be when Michael Thomas is just on another level.
Speaker 1: And I think we saw even at that opening game
Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay, It's like, sure many people can' get
Speaker 1: out of their minds. Sixteen receptions for eighty yards of
Speaker 1: a touchdown. That's how dominant Michael Thomas can be. H
Speaker 1: And for the most part, he keeps his mouth shut
Speaker 1: and he just plays. And uh, there's a lot to
Speaker 1: be said. Now, Joe Mixon does did average last year
Speaker 1: over fourteen Fantasy points per game. Michael Thomas only about
Speaker 1: twelve Fantasy points per game. That is a significant difference.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon finished without ten more Fantasy points in total.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's one point per game. Whatever. Um, I
Speaker 1: think Michael Thomas just a little bit safer than Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is my number eleven player overall. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't have Michael Thomas as a first round player for me.
Speaker 1: I think he's a fine player. But as we've seen
Speaker 1: from Drew Brees and the Saints offensives past couple of years,
Speaker 1: there's been a direct correlation that they want to run
Speaker 1: the football and they want to play defense. I don't
Speaker 1: know that they want to ask Hrew Rees to throw
Speaker 1: the ball all that much. So I worry about volume.
Speaker 1: I know that Michael Thomas is still going to lead
Speaker 1: this team and targets lead this team and targets share.
Speaker 1: But he's finished exactly wide receiver seven each of his
Speaker 1: first three seasons, so you basically know what you're getting
Speaker 1: from Michael Thomas. I don't know how much better he's
Speaker 1: going to get from that. That's fine if you want
Speaker 1: to if you want a consistent player at the end
Speaker 1: of the first round. I don't have a problem with
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, but I think you can argue that players
Speaker 1: like Juju Smith Schuster and Tyreek Hill obviously have more
Speaker 1: upside than in Michael Thomas. And that's where I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with my twelfth and last player of the first round.
Speaker 1: It is Jujuice Smith Schuster of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He
Speaker 1: finished wide receiver nine last year. I think more touchdowns
Speaker 1: are coming this season. You know, he only had he
Speaker 1: had believe it was seven or eight touchdowns and Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown had fifteen. Yet Judic Smith Schuster had more red
Speaker 1: zone targets in Antonio Brown a year ago. And the
Speaker 1: volume you want to talk about volume for a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: They have to replace almost thirteen hundred yards, fifteen touchdowns
Speaker 1: and over a hundred and sixty targets of Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: from last year. Obviously, that's not gonna only go all
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster's way, but he is unquestionably the wide
Speaker 1: receiver one for this team. I don't worry about him
Speaker 1: seeing opposing teams number one corners he plays in the slot.
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster my number twelve player Rounnie at the
Speaker 1: first round. Jujus also my number twelve player Roundnie at
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Speaker 1: three minutes. As I mentioned before the break at number twelve.
Speaker 1: For me, I also have Jujuic Smith Schuster. I'm high
Speaker 1: on the Steeler's offense obviously, and maybe it's just me,
Speaker 1: but I'm buying the scheme right Like Levan's gone, a
Speaker 1: b is gone, and I think you can kind of
Speaker 1: just plug in the pieces there and kind of get
Speaker 1: the same result. That's why I'm really high on James Conner.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm really high on Juju Smith Schuster. Juju
Speaker 1: has proven with Antonio Brown in the line up, Without
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown in the lineup, he's a true wide receiver one.
Speaker 1: And I believe that without a V there, Ben's gonna
Speaker 1: have a trust factor with him and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: all Juju all the time. He's absolutely my number twelve player,
Speaker 1: and he's someone very much targeting. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are probably gonna ask, you know, why Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: isn't part of his crew. Tyreek Hill is part of
Speaker 1: his crew. Odell Beckham. While I think he does have
Speaker 1: a mental upside playing with Baker Mayfield, no doubt, the
Speaker 1: best quarterback that he's played with now of his career,
Speaker 1: there is some downside because he has dealt with a
Speaker 1: lot of leg injuries so far already, and when it
Speaker 1: comes to Tyreek Hill, there's still, you know, just creeping
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, the possibility of something
Speaker 1: coming out that forces him to be suspended. The upside
Speaker 1: is insane, but again, you know, as Greg has hit
Speaker 1: on a lot today with my first two picks, I
Speaker 1: really really just want safe players like you can attack
Speaker 1: all the upside in the middle rounds that you can
Speaker 1: possibly get you. This is your foundation, your round one
Speaker 1: and round two pick. So while I think Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill do have massive upside, I think the
Speaker 1: downside is higher for those guys as well. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen juduced miss Schuster b you know, a wide receiver
Speaker 1: one for an extended period of time. But in the
Speaker 1: three games that he has done it so far, he
Speaker 1: has scored a touchdown in each one of those games.
Speaker 1: In games that he's played without Antonio Brown, so I
Speaker 1: don't really worried about it. He played fifty percent of
Speaker 1: his of his snaps in the slot last year, and
Speaker 1: this is something I'm just gonna continue hitting on. Greg.
Speaker 1: I love slot receivers. Their targets are more valuable than
Speaker 1: wide receivers who play on the outside. It's just it's
Speaker 1: harder to defend slot receivers. At least, you know, if
Speaker 1: you are a really really talented cornerback and you're playing
Speaker 1: up against the wide receiver on the outside, you have
Speaker 1: the sideline to play against where you can pin those
Speaker 1: guys up against the sideline. If you go into the slot,
Speaker 1: it's just so hard to guard those receivers. You don't
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna go left, right, they're gonna go straight.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's an advantage that Judice Simith Schuster has
Speaker 1: over some of these other names. Totally agree with that, Odellvuk.
Speaker 1: I'm also playing a lot essentially in the slot, although
Speaker 1: Drummers Lager is there as well. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: question marks. I would Cleveland tomorrow, Freak and I will
Speaker 1: go over our first round again, reveal who we have
Speaker 1: in round number two. Have a great night. We came
Speaker 1: back the fantasy hour is over, actually hours next m
Speaker 1: hmmm