1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:24,795 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. The 2 00:00:24,955 --> 00:00:29,635 Speaker 1: man handling of Jimmy Kimmel and the blackmailing of ABC 3 00:00:29,915 --> 00:00:32,315 Speaker 1: may turn out to be the biggest gift this year 4 00:00:33,115 --> 00:00:36,675 Speaker 1: to the Democrats. And if that is not a big 5 00:00:36,795 --> 00:00:40,355 Speaker 1: enough plot twist, I am hearing from multiple sources that, 6 00:00:40,395 --> 00:00:45,115 Speaker 1: at least right now, ABC thinks Jimmy Kimmel will stay 7 00:00:45,155 --> 00:00:49,115 Speaker 1: on the air and will return on the air in 8 00:00:49,195 --> 00:00:54,915 Speaker 1: the same show as early as later this month, maybe 9 00:00:54,955 --> 00:01:00,875 Speaker 1: even this week. Kirk the Trump self impeaching memo to 10 00:01:00,915 --> 00:01:04,395 Speaker 1: BONDI he tweeted in a stupor a lot more momentarily. 11 00:01:04,435 --> 00:01:07,915 Speaker 1: But is Kimmel news first and a caveat. I'll believe 12 00:01:07,955 --> 00:01:12,715 Speaker 1: it when I see it. However, these are the landmarks 13 00:01:12,795 --> 00:01:15,435 Speaker 1: my sources pointed at, and a couple I thought of 14 00:01:15,475 --> 00:01:21,155 Speaker 1: my own self. First, they haven't fired him. Second, they 15 00:01:21,195 --> 00:01:25,675 Speaker 1: actually haven't said anything about him. ABC has not said 16 00:01:25,795 --> 00:01:29,955 Speaker 1: anything about Jimmy Kimmel since that one sentence announcement about 17 00:01:29,955 --> 00:01:33,515 Speaker 1: taking him off the air. Third, he hasn't said anything 18 00:01:33,515 --> 00:01:37,275 Speaker 1: about ABC good, bad, or indifferent. Can you imagine me 19 00:01:37,555 --> 00:01:37,755 Speaker 1: in this? 20 00:01:38,515 --> 00:01:38,915 Speaker 2: Fourth? 21 00:01:39,315 --> 00:01:43,155 Speaker 1: Remember the Sinclair owned local stations that started all the 22 00:01:43,195 --> 00:01:46,955 Speaker 1: trouble the next Star stations, the ones who were bribing 23 00:01:47,075 --> 00:01:51,075 Speaker 1: Trump and the FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr by demanding kimmelby 24 00:01:51,275 --> 00:01:54,795 Speaker 1: sidelined so Trump and Carr would waive the rules and 25 00:01:54,875 --> 00:01:58,355 Speaker 1: let Sinclair buy more than the legal limit of local 26 00:01:58,395 --> 00:02:03,355 Speaker 1: TV stations. Remember their plan after the Kimmel suspension to 27 00:02:03,555 --> 00:02:08,755 Speaker 1: run a Arly Kirk tribute last Friday Night in Kimmel's timeslot. 28 00:02:10,035 --> 00:02:15,235 Speaker 1: What happened to that? They didn't run it. They didn't 29 00:02:15,235 --> 00:02:20,435 Speaker 1: put it on the Sinclair stations. They put it on YouTube, 30 00:02:20,475 --> 00:02:24,075 Speaker 1: no other explanation, They just didn't run it. Why didn't 31 00:02:24,115 --> 00:02:27,395 Speaker 1: they run it? They won? Fifth, what happened to the 32 00:02:27,475 --> 00:02:32,315 Speaker 1: Sinclair demand that Kimmel apologizes and pays a bribe, I'm sorry, 33 00:02:32,475 --> 00:02:38,515 Speaker 1: make a donation to Kirk's scam Turning Point Company Incorporated? Sixth, 34 00:02:39,075 --> 00:02:43,075 Speaker 1: how much grief did ABC take and how much grief 35 00:02:43,115 --> 00:02:47,235 Speaker 1: did Disney take for folding to Trump and for not 36 00:02:47,315 --> 00:02:53,315 Speaker 1: defending Kimmel as the entire right wing misquoted him so 37 00:02:53,515 --> 00:02:58,075 Speaker 1: much that no human mind can estimate it. And Seventh, 38 00:02:58,675 --> 00:03:01,995 Speaker 1: how could you possibly put all the Kimmel and Kirk 39 00:03:02,075 --> 00:03:07,635 Speaker 1: toothpaste back into the tube? As Eric Idle once sang, 40 00:03:08,635 --> 00:03:14,795 Speaker 1: all you need is cash. The resurrection of Jimmy Kimmel. 41 00:03:15,595 --> 00:03:19,555 Speaker 1: It has been rumored almost since ABC yanked him. Variety 42 00:03:19,595 --> 00:03:22,755 Speaker 1: had a piece over the weekend about peace feelers. CNN 43 00:03:22,795 --> 00:03:25,395 Speaker 1: had a story saying the outreach began the same day 44 00:03:25,435 --> 00:03:28,075 Speaker 1: they took him off, led not by chairman Bob Iger, 45 00:03:28,115 --> 00:03:30,795 Speaker 1: who really did destroy himself over this, no matter how 46 00:03:30,795 --> 00:03:35,315 Speaker 1: it turns out, but by Disney Entertainment co chair Dana Walden, 47 00:03:35,915 --> 00:03:41,035 Speaker 1: whom they report called Kimmel that day quote, everyone deeply 48 00:03:41,155 --> 00:03:44,075 Speaker 1: values him and wants him to come back, but he 49 00:03:44,155 --> 00:03:48,035 Speaker 1: has to take down the temperature. That was when the 50 00:03:48,075 --> 00:03:51,955 Speaker 1: temperature was still warm, before the temperature turned ice cold 51 00:03:52,035 --> 00:03:54,995 Speaker 1: for Disney and Bob Eiger. And that was also before 52 00:03:55,035 --> 00:03:58,875 Speaker 1: anybody realized that any scenario in which Jimmy Kimmel returns 53 00:03:58,955 --> 00:04:03,275 Speaker 1: to the air on ABC is a win for Jimmy 54 00:04:03,355 --> 00:04:08,675 Speaker 1: Kimmel and for ABC and a defeat for Trump and 55 00:04:08,755 --> 00:04:12,795 Speaker 1: a defeat for fascism, and especially a defeat for Brendan Carr, 56 00:04:12,835 --> 00:04:15,955 Speaker 1: who could get fired over this. And one of the 57 00:04:15,995 --> 00:04:19,475 Speaker 1: reasons they realized this was you gov hold on this 58 00:04:19,595 --> 00:04:26,315 Speaker 1: whole story On Thursday, the margin of adults thinking Kimmel's 59 00:04:26,355 --> 00:04:31,475 Speaker 1: monologue on Monday was acceptable was forty three to thirty 60 00:04:31,515 --> 00:04:36,155 Speaker 1: six percent in favor, a lot of undecideds, but barely 61 00:04:36,235 --> 00:04:39,755 Speaker 1: more than one third who were opposed to it. Half 62 00:04:39,875 --> 00:04:43,915 Speaker 1: of adults disapproved of ABC taking Kimmel off the air, 63 00:04:43,955 --> 00:04:47,115 Speaker 1: and forty two percent said they strongly disapproved of it, 64 00:04:48,515 --> 00:04:52,395 Speaker 1: by our margin of forty three to twenty six. Responding 65 00:04:52,435 --> 00:04:55,795 Speaker 1: to the threat by FCC Commissioner car we can do 66 00:04:55,835 --> 00:04:57,955 Speaker 1: this the easy wayer, we can do it the hard 67 00:04:57,955 --> 00:05:01,475 Speaker 1: way quote, forty three to twenty six adults thought that 68 00:05:01,555 --> 00:05:08,275 Speaker 1: was unacceptable. Again, I believe it when I see Jimmy 69 00:05:08,355 --> 00:05:12,755 Speaker 1: Kimmel on my TV on Channel seven. Still, that's what 70 00:05:12,915 --> 00:05:18,195 Speaker 1: everybody is telling me. So why how well? Given that 71 00:05:18,315 --> 00:05:21,475 Speaker 1: last week Trump boasted he had avenged Charlie Kirk by 72 00:05:21,515 --> 00:05:25,275 Speaker 1: getting some guy's show canceled, even though the guy never 73 00:05:25,315 --> 00:05:28,275 Speaker 1: disparaged Kirk, and then he said no, I had nothing 74 00:05:28,315 --> 00:05:30,835 Speaker 1: to do with it, Given that there were still new 75 00:05:30,955 --> 00:05:34,555 Speaker 1: articles saying that Jimmy Kimmel has been canceled that were 76 00:05:34,595 --> 00:05:38,315 Speaker 1: published as late as Saturday night, the answer is the 77 00:05:38,435 --> 00:05:42,475 Speaker 1: fccs Goebbels, Brendan Carr, May in fact, go into history 78 00:05:42,515 --> 00:05:46,315 Speaker 1: as a hero of the left. Because it dawned on 79 00:05:46,355 --> 00:05:49,155 Speaker 1: the right all of a sudden, like a bunch of 80 00:05:49,235 --> 00:05:53,675 Speaker 1: flies deciding all of a sudden to move six feet 81 00:05:53,755 --> 00:05:55,915 Speaker 1: to the left in a box in the middle of summer. 82 00:05:56,675 --> 00:05:59,235 Speaker 1: It dawned on the right all of a sudden, late Thursday, 83 00:05:59,275 --> 00:06:02,555 Speaker 1: early Friday. Maybe that they have not only authorized the 84 00:06:02,675 --> 00:06:05,315 Speaker 1: left to the next time the left is in power, 85 00:06:05,555 --> 00:06:10,515 Speaker 1: shut down Fox and Murdoch and Sinclair, take away all 86 00:06:10,555 --> 00:06:14,595 Speaker 1: of Murdoch's waivers, take away all his stations, manage its 87 00:06:14,715 --> 00:06:19,595 Speaker 1: news channels, destroy Murdoch's newspapers. But the right has now 88 00:06:19,595 --> 00:06:23,595 Speaker 1: made this almost mandatory, and it has awakened in liberals 89 00:06:23,635 --> 00:06:32,515 Speaker 1: something we always and sorely lack imagination. Remember, not every 90 00:06:32,595 --> 00:06:37,075 Speaker 1: maga has a brain, but every other maga has a podcast. 91 00:06:37,915 --> 00:06:41,475 Speaker 1: And as they were recording them and celebrating the downfall 92 00:06:41,515 --> 00:06:45,515 Speaker 1: of Jimmy Kimmel, it hit them what government censorship could 93 00:06:45,555 --> 00:06:50,115 Speaker 1: mean for them. These are the only circumstances in which 94 00:06:50,115 --> 00:06:52,515 Speaker 1: anything will register with any of these people. It's not 95 00:06:52,715 --> 00:06:55,075 Speaker 1: right or wrong, it's not even what they can get 96 00:06:55,075 --> 00:06:59,115 Speaker 1: away with. It's just self interest. I mean, what would 97 00:06:59,155 --> 00:07:03,835 Speaker 1: the world look like if Elon Musk's x was actually 98 00:07:03,995 --> 00:07:10,755 Speaker 1: under true government supervision in a world where cut turn 99 00:07:11,035 --> 00:07:15,315 Speaker 1: posts something that has to wait twenty four hours before 100 00:07:15,355 --> 00:07:22,675 Speaker 1: it is approved or it isn't. At the same time, 101 00:07:22,715 --> 00:07:24,875 Speaker 1: it's awakened the right and the realization that they just 102 00:07:24,915 --> 00:07:28,275 Speaker 1: handed out rocks and said, please, please, everybody hit conservative 103 00:07:28,315 --> 00:07:35,115 Speaker 1: media in the groin with your rocks. The Trump FCC 104 00:07:35,235 --> 00:07:38,035 Speaker 1: blackmailing of ABC and the bullying of Jimmy Kimmel maybe 105 00:07:38,075 --> 00:07:40,035 Speaker 1: a worse cell phone even than Trump's cover up of 106 00:07:40,155 --> 00:07:43,715 Speaker 1: the Epstein fliles. Just the immediate blowback against Trump and 107 00:07:43,835 --> 00:07:50,835 Speaker 1: Carr and for Kimmel from the right has been, I'm sorry, shocking, refreshing. Yesterday, 108 00:07:50,915 --> 00:07:53,235 Speaker 1: Rand Paul went on this Week on ABC instead of 109 00:07:53,235 --> 00:07:57,755 Speaker 1: the Kimmel disaster quote absolutely inappropriate. Brendan Carr has got 110 00:07:57,795 --> 00:08:00,955 Speaker 1: no business weighing in on this. The FCC should have 111 00:08:01,035 --> 00:08:03,435 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. Sinclair pulled out. They were 112 00:08:03,475 --> 00:08:06,675 Speaker 1: disgusted by the comment. That's their rights, but the government's 113 00:08:06,715 --> 00:08:09,435 Speaker 1: got no business in it, and the FCC was wrong 114 00:08:09,595 --> 00:08:13,915 Speaker 1: to weigh in. No, the same, Ran Paul, and I'll 115 00:08:13,915 --> 00:08:17,075 Speaker 1: fight any attempt by the government to get involved with speech. 116 00:08:18,995 --> 00:08:22,875 Speaker 1: And I played these clips from Ted Cruz on his podcast, 117 00:08:23,075 --> 00:08:25,115 Speaker 1: which he knows would be one of the first ones 118 00:08:25,595 --> 00:08:29,395 Speaker 1: we would censor. I played these clips from Ted Cruz 119 00:08:29,595 --> 00:08:32,915 Speaker 1: in the Friday Night bulletin I did on this. They're 120 00:08:32,955 --> 00:08:37,115 Speaker 1: worth hearing again, as tin ear as him suddenly breaking 121 00:08:37,115 --> 00:08:42,355 Speaker 1: into a bad dialect is my god. Otherwise Ted Cruz 122 00:08:42,395 --> 00:08:44,435 Speaker 1: could be reading one of my scripts here. 123 00:08:45,075 --> 00:08:49,995 Speaker 3: I think it is unbelievably dangerous for government to put 124 00:08:50,035 --> 00:08:53,275 Speaker 3: itself in the position of saying, we're going to decide 125 00:08:53,275 --> 00:08:55,395 Speaker 3: what speech we like and what we don't, and we're 126 00:08:55,395 --> 00:08:57,555 Speaker 3: going to threaten to take you off air if we 127 00:08:57,635 --> 00:09:00,675 Speaker 3: don't like what you're saying. And it might feel good 128 00:09:00,795 --> 00:09:04,035 Speaker 3: right now to threaten Jimmy Kimmel, Yeah, but when it 129 00:09:04,195 --> 00:09:08,035 Speaker 3: is you to silence every conservative in America, we will 130 00:09:08,075 --> 00:09:10,995 Speaker 3: regret it. And and and so again. I like Brendan Carr, 131 00:09:11,635 --> 00:09:14,275 Speaker 3: but we should not be in this business. We should 132 00:09:14,275 --> 00:09:17,635 Speaker 3: denounce it. It's fine to say what Jimmy Kimmel said 133 00:09:17,795 --> 00:09:21,955 Speaker 3: was deplorable, it was disgraceful, and he should be off air, 134 00:09:22,395 --> 00:09:25,595 Speaker 3: but we shouldn't be threatening government power to force him 135 00:09:25,595 --> 00:09:30,475 Speaker 3: off air. That's a real mistake. He threatens explicitly, we're 136 00:09:30,475 --> 00:09:33,035 Speaker 3: going to cancel ABC's license. We're gonna take him off 137 00:09:33,075 --> 00:09:36,915 Speaker 3: the air, so ABC cannot broadcast anymore. And I gotta 138 00:09:36,955 --> 00:09:41,635 Speaker 3: say he threatens it. He says, we can do this 139 00:09:41,835 --> 00:09:44,475 Speaker 3: the easy way, but we can do this the hard way. 140 00:09:44,995 --> 00:09:45,275 Speaker 2: Yeah. 141 00:09:45,475 --> 00:09:47,595 Speaker 3: And I got to say, that's right out of goodfellows. 142 00:09:47,595 --> 00:09:49,475 Speaker 3: That that that that that that's right out of a 143 00:09:49,515 --> 00:09:53,435 Speaker 3: mafioso coming into a bar going nice by you have here, 144 00:09:53,675 --> 00:09:55,715 Speaker 3: it'd be a shame of something happened to it. 145 00:09:56,035 --> 00:10:00,835 Speaker 1: And that was Ted Cruz and not me. Scott Adams 146 00:10:01,275 --> 00:10:09,955 Speaker 1: Gilbert podcast quote I'm on Jimmy Kimmel's side. Unquote Ben Shpiro. 147 00:10:10,795 --> 00:10:12,995 Speaker 1: I do not want the FCC in the business of 148 00:10:13,035 --> 00:10:15,955 Speaker 1: telling local affiliates that their licenses will be removed if 149 00:10:15,955 --> 00:10:19,875 Speaker 1: they broadcast material that the FCC deems to be informationally false. 150 00:10:19,915 --> 00:10:22,275 Speaker 1: Why because one day the shoe will be on the 151 00:10:22,315 --> 00:10:25,875 Speaker 1: other foot. If Democrats win the presidency and you got 152 00:10:25,875 --> 00:10:28,355 Speaker 1: a Democrat in charge of the FCC, you got Adam 153 00:10:28,435 --> 00:10:31,195 Speaker 1: Schiff in charge of the FCC. Please God, Please God, 154 00:10:31,195 --> 00:10:33,835 Speaker 1: Please God. You know which affiliates are going to get threatened, 155 00:10:33,875 --> 00:10:36,115 Speaker 1: all of the Fox affiliates. You know what's gonna happen, 156 00:10:38,035 --> 00:10:43,595 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro, you have unsuspected depth. With the perspective of 157 00:10:43,795 --> 00:10:46,755 Speaker 1: just a few days, this became such an obvious own 158 00:10:46,955 --> 00:10:51,235 Speaker 1: goal that not only is Trump denying Brendan Carr did this, 159 00:10:51,755 --> 00:10:55,915 Speaker 1: but Ewick Twump called into the mud Travis Bunk Sex 160 00:10:55,995 --> 00:11:00,155 Speaker 1: Bump Show to deny that Dadams had anything to do 161 00:11:00,195 --> 00:11:03,115 Speaker 1: with it. Quote, Listen, the guy has been a jerk. No, 162 00:11:03,195 --> 00:11:05,475 Speaker 1: he's talking about Kimmel, not his father. Listen, the guy 163 00:11:05,515 --> 00:11:07,875 Speaker 1: has been a jerk. He hasn't been funny. But honestly, 164 00:11:07,915 --> 00:11:09,515 Speaker 1: I think the network used this as a way to 165 00:11:09,515 --> 00:11:14,075 Speaker 1: get him out based on, you know, bad ratings. Eeriic 166 00:11:14,115 --> 00:11:18,155 Speaker 1: had to say that because Dadams promised the exact opposite 167 00:11:18,195 --> 00:11:21,515 Speaker 1: of what he and Carr just did to Jimmy Kimmel 168 00:11:21,675 --> 00:11:26,155 Speaker 1: and ABC, and he promised it during his inaugural address. 169 00:11:26,715 --> 00:11:31,155 Speaker 4: After years and years of illegal and unconstitutional federal efforts 170 00:11:31,195 --> 00:11:35,395 Speaker 4: to restrict free expression, I will also sign an executive 171 00:11:35,515 --> 00:11:40,075 Speaker 4: order to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back 172 00:11:40,395 --> 00:11:42,075 Speaker 4: free speech to America. 173 00:11:42,435 --> 00:11:46,875 Speaker 1: Oops. Just say oops and get out now. Just roll 174 00:11:46,995 --> 00:11:50,955 Speaker 1: through the list of the great intellects of MAGA and 175 00:11:50,995 --> 00:11:53,475 Speaker 1: they are one hundred percent on this issue, and they're 176 00:11:53,515 --> 00:11:57,115 Speaker 1: not on Brendan Carr side. Quote. If the idea of 177 00:11:57,195 --> 00:12:01,515 Speaker 1: free speech enrages you, the cornerstone of democratic self government, 178 00:12:01,835 --> 00:12:05,475 Speaker 1: then I regret to inform you that you are a fascist. 179 00:12:05,875 --> 00:12:13,155 Speaker 1: Unquote Stephen Miller, April fifteenth, twenty twenty two. Congratulations, Brendan Carr. 180 00:12:13,835 --> 00:12:18,875 Speaker 1: Stephen Miller just called you a fascist. This is even 181 00:12:18,955 --> 00:12:22,035 Speaker 1: worse than that. The Attorney General of Missouri sued the 182 00:12:22,035 --> 00:12:25,715 Speaker 1: then surgeon general for alleged government suppression of the anti 183 00:12:25,795 --> 00:12:31,235 Speaker 1: vaccine bullshit online Murphy versus Missouri went to the Supreme 184 00:12:31,275 --> 00:12:35,035 Speaker 1: Court listened to this from an amicus brief challenging any 185 00:12:35,075 --> 00:12:36,795 Speaker 1: government censorship or pressure. 186 00:12:37,395 --> 00:12:37,675 Speaker 4: Quote. 187 00:12:37,715 --> 00:12:40,315 Speaker 1: Perhaps most disconcerting of all is the pressure applied to 188 00:12:40,355 --> 00:12:43,555 Speaker 1: the platforms to enforce the government's new role as arbiter 189 00:12:43,675 --> 00:12:49,195 Speaker 1: of truth, imposing a new federal orthodoxy, and that's in 190 00:12:49,235 --> 00:12:54,795 Speaker 1: italics upon citizens speech. That plan clashes with the Court's 191 00:12:54,835 --> 00:12:58,355 Speaker 1: clear declaration that government may not quote prescribe what shall 192 00:12:58,395 --> 00:13:02,995 Speaker 1: be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion. 193 00:13:04,755 --> 00:13:09,555 Speaker 1: Amicus brief was filed by H. Turning Point USA and 194 00:13:09,675 --> 00:13:16,715 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. The Claremont Institute filed a similar brief in 195 00:13:16,795 --> 00:13:20,675 Speaker 1: that case, and it has the name on it John Eastman. 196 00:13:23,035 --> 00:13:26,555 Speaker 1: In a separate Supreme Court case last year NRA versus 197 00:13:26,715 --> 00:13:30,795 Speaker 1: Vullo about pressuring groups to cut off the NRA, the 198 00:13:30,875 --> 00:13:34,435 Speaker 1: National Rifle Association, in business dealings and the like. The 199 00:13:34,475 --> 00:13:40,355 Speaker 1: Court ruled nine nothing against government infringement of opinion nothing 200 00:13:41,035 --> 00:13:44,235 Speaker 1: a shutout the forfeit score. The unanimous opinion was written 201 00:13:44,275 --> 00:13:48,995 Speaker 1: by Sonya Soda Mayor. Quote, Government officials cannot attempt to 202 00:13:49,035 --> 00:13:53,435 Speaker 1: coerce private parties in order to punish or suppress views 203 00:13:53,635 --> 00:14:00,035 Speaker 1: that the government disfavors. You want more. What Brendan Carr 204 00:14:00,035 --> 00:14:02,715 Speaker 1: did was not only self harm, it may have been 205 00:14:02,835 --> 00:14:06,875 Speaker 1: illegal when the New Republic, quoting Ana Gomez, one of 206 00:14:06,915 --> 00:14:10,115 Speaker 1: the three FCC commissioners, the only one appointed by a 207 00:14:10,155 --> 00:14:13,955 Speaker 1: democratic president, quote, what the administration is doing violates the 208 00:14:13,955 --> 00:14:18,315 Speaker 1: First Amendment and the Communication Acts. This administration is increasingly 209 00:14:18,395 --> 00:14:23,195 Speaker 1: using the weight of government to suppress lawful expression. Gomez 210 00:14:23,235 --> 00:14:27,955 Speaker 1: also decried Trump's campaign of censorship and control to quote 211 00:14:28,035 --> 00:14:36,755 Speaker 1: silence dissent. Brendan Carr may want to relocate. We can 212 00:14:36,795 --> 00:14:38,675 Speaker 1: do this the hard way, Brendan, or we can do 213 00:14:38,715 --> 00:14:45,395 Speaker 1: it the easy way. So now, obviously ABC has to 214 00:14:45,435 --> 00:14:49,115 Speaker 1: get Kimmel back on the air. In the worst case scenario, 215 00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:54,475 Speaker 1: they don't and he sues. He sues the federal government 216 00:14:54,715 --> 00:14:59,755 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump and Brendan Carr personally. The Trump part 217 00:14:59,795 --> 00:15:03,475 Speaker 1: gets thrown out, but not until after the headlines. Jimmy 218 00:15:03,555 --> 00:15:06,635 Speaker 1: Kimmel right now has a lawsuit against Brendan Carr and 219 00:15:06,675 --> 00:15:10,155 Speaker 1: the FCC, to say nothing of enough lawsuits to potentially 220 00:15:10,195 --> 00:15:13,995 Speaker 1: own Disney. I don't know why you'd want to own Disney, 221 00:15:13,995 --> 00:15:17,755 Speaker 1: but there it is. To get him back on They 222 00:15:17,795 --> 00:15:20,195 Speaker 1: will not give him full ownership of Disney, but they 223 00:15:20,235 --> 00:15:22,555 Speaker 1: will have to throw some sop to the right to 224 00:15:22,595 --> 00:15:25,755 Speaker 1: give them a climb down. Though, why let them fall 225 00:15:25,795 --> 00:15:29,115 Speaker 1: off the cliff. They so carefully built this cliff. But 226 00:15:29,195 --> 00:15:31,755 Speaker 1: they certainly will have to assuage Jimmy Kimmel's fears of 227 00:15:31,795 --> 00:15:35,475 Speaker 1: going through this again. And that's always one of two things. 228 00:15:35,835 --> 00:15:40,355 Speaker 1: A new longer contract his runs out next spring, or 229 00:15:40,435 --> 00:15:46,835 Speaker 1: more money. They're both. I flashed back to my one 230 00:15:46,915 --> 00:15:50,155 Speaker 1: thing that touched on something like this when the Republicans 231 00:15:50,195 --> 00:15:52,675 Speaker 1: came in in two thousand and eight, after I said 232 00:15:52,675 --> 00:15:55,875 Speaker 1: something they didn't like. During the Republican convention when they 233 00:15:55,875 --> 00:15:58,315 Speaker 1: showed a snuff film and claimed it was a nine 234 00:15:58,355 --> 00:16:00,955 Speaker 1: to eleven tribute, and I said, if we had shown 235 00:16:00,955 --> 00:16:03,555 Speaker 1: you that video, I'd be here apologizing for showing you 236 00:16:03,595 --> 00:16:06,075 Speaker 1: the video of the people from the World Trade Center. 237 00:16:06,315 --> 00:16:09,635 Speaker 1: When the Republicans went in and blackmailed Tom Brokaw and said, 238 00:16:09,675 --> 00:16:12,195 Speaker 1: our guy won't show up to your debate, and Brokaw 239 00:16:12,235 --> 00:16:15,355 Speaker 1: went in and blackmailed NBC management into taking me and 240 00:16:15,435 --> 00:16:18,275 Speaker 1: Chris Matthews off the air. They called and told me. 241 00:16:18,355 --> 00:16:20,555 Speaker 1: My agent called and told me while I was at 242 00:16:20,555 --> 00:16:23,195 Speaker 1: a ballgame in the press box, and I told her, 243 00:16:23,315 --> 00:16:25,875 Speaker 1: you called them back and tell them I quit and 244 00:16:25,915 --> 00:16:28,035 Speaker 1: they can deal with the aftermath of this. I got 245 00:16:28,075 --> 00:16:29,955 Speaker 1: in the subway and went home, and by the time 246 00:16:29,955 --> 00:16:32,035 Speaker 1: I got out of the subway twenty five minutes later, 247 00:16:32,075 --> 00:16:33,995 Speaker 1: it had dawned on me that not only was I 248 00:16:34,075 --> 00:16:36,595 Speaker 1: not going to quit, but I was going to say 249 00:16:36,595 --> 00:16:39,195 Speaker 1: to them, I'll make you a deal if I quit, 250 00:16:39,715 --> 00:16:41,675 Speaker 1: or if this just goes out and I don't quit, 251 00:16:41,995 --> 00:16:45,555 Speaker 1: you guys will lose the entire MSNBC audience. They will 252 00:16:45,635 --> 00:16:49,395 Speaker 1: literally walk away. This is either just days before we 253 00:16:49,395 --> 00:16:52,915 Speaker 1: were to premiere Rachel Meadows Show, or days after we did. 254 00:16:53,035 --> 00:16:55,315 Speaker 1: There was no other presence on that network but me. 255 00:16:55,475 --> 00:16:58,995 Speaker 1: I was the network and they were silencing me. And 256 00:16:59,075 --> 00:17:01,115 Speaker 1: if they wanted to throw away what we just built, 257 00:17:01,115 --> 00:17:04,435 Speaker 1: they could do that, or I would say it was 258 00:17:04,515 --> 00:17:09,395 Speaker 1: my idea to stop doing the part that the GOP wanted, 259 00:17:09,395 --> 00:17:13,475 Speaker 1: which was me and Matthew's off the debates. I said, 260 00:17:13,635 --> 00:17:16,515 Speaker 1: I'll take myself off that and I'll claim it's my 261 00:17:16,635 --> 00:17:18,915 Speaker 1: idea and I'll sell it as best I can, and 262 00:17:18,995 --> 00:17:24,835 Speaker 1: you give me, let's see, twelve million dollars three million 263 00:17:24,875 --> 00:17:29,155 Speaker 1: dollars a year over four years. They gave me the 264 00:17:29,195 --> 00:17:34,595 Speaker 1: twelve million. So an end result of this might be 265 00:17:34,755 --> 00:17:37,395 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel gets a raise and a contract when his 266 00:17:38,355 --> 00:17:41,235 Speaker 1: contract and presumably his show was supposed to end next spring. 267 00:17:42,875 --> 00:17:48,755 Speaker 1: But our purposes, we're not all Jimmy Kimmel. Our purposes. 268 00:17:49,035 --> 00:17:53,195 Speaker 1: Given how much Trump fouled this up with his own people, 269 00:17:53,235 --> 00:17:55,875 Speaker 1: with the right wing, how much they are opposed to this, 270 00:17:56,195 --> 00:18:00,595 Speaker 1: Democrats need to hit the gas while it is still 271 00:18:00,635 --> 00:18:05,475 Speaker 1: sitting there. Push on this. We need House and or 272 00:18:05,555 --> 00:18:09,715 Speaker 1: Senate resolutions condemning car that the Republicans have to vote 273 00:18:09,795 --> 00:18:13,595 Speaker 1: for or against. We need Rand Paul co signing something 274 00:18:14,875 --> 00:18:20,235 Speaker 1: with AOC. We need something House and or Senate resolutions, 275 00:18:20,915 --> 00:18:25,355 Speaker 1: something reaffirming the First Amendment. Just something like it is 276 00:18:25,395 --> 00:18:28,035 Speaker 1: the sense of this House that we reaffirm the First Amendment. 277 00:18:28,075 --> 00:18:30,795 Speaker 1: See how many Republicans are willing to sign off against 278 00:18:30,795 --> 00:18:35,955 Speaker 1: that something? I mean just Democrats who go on ABC 279 00:18:36,075 --> 00:18:39,875 Speaker 1: News or ABC shows. They need to hit ABC for 280 00:18:39,955 --> 00:18:44,155 Speaker 1: doing this to Kimmel on ABC until they put Kimmel 281 00:18:44,195 --> 00:18:48,195 Speaker 1: back on the air. The Democrats can do all the 282 00:18:48,195 --> 00:18:52,195 Speaker 1: public investigation they want of this man car and especially 283 00:18:52,675 --> 00:18:55,915 Speaker 1: what is clearly a quid pro quo about Sinclair Next 284 00:18:55,955 --> 00:18:58,955 Speaker 1: Star and approving those stations. They can tie up those 285 00:18:58,995 --> 00:19:05,475 Speaker 1: approval and in court for years. Mister Jeffries, mister Schumer, 286 00:19:05,835 --> 00:19:11,395 Speaker 1: this is something so obvious, so obvious, so easy, so 287 00:19:11,715 --> 00:19:18,115 Speaker 1: win win, win, win win. Even your strategists and consultants 288 00:19:18,675 --> 00:19:45,955 Speaker 1: have probably heard about it by now. Still, maybe the 289 00:19:45,995 --> 00:19:48,435 Speaker 1: best part of the Kimmel Kirk saga is that, of 290 00:19:48,435 --> 00:19:51,915 Speaker 1: course they wind up giving Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon and 291 00:19:51,955 --> 00:19:57,115 Speaker 1: Seth Myers, maybe even Colbert in a different venue, Extra Life. 292 00:19:57,635 --> 00:20:03,995 Speaker 1: Those franchises were are winding down. Myers was down to 293 00:20:04,035 --> 00:20:09,235 Speaker 1: three workdays week. Now, if Kimmel goes back on the air, 294 00:20:09,715 --> 00:20:13,595 Speaker 1: it'll have to be with something providing security for both parties, 295 00:20:14,275 --> 00:20:16,195 Speaker 1: and it will be with the wind at his back. 296 00:20:16,475 --> 00:20:18,835 Speaker 1: Suddenly people will want to see what Jimmy Kimmel has 297 00:20:18,875 --> 00:20:26,955 Speaker 1: to say, and Myers and Fallon and even FN Colbert. 298 00:20:28,195 --> 00:20:30,675 Speaker 1: The second best part of the Kimmel Kirk saga is 299 00:20:30,795 --> 00:20:34,155 Speaker 1: it took the Kirk shooting and it transformed it politically 300 00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:38,595 Speaker 1: into the Kimmel Kirk saga until the weekend began and 301 00:20:38,675 --> 00:20:43,155 Speaker 1: the canonization of Saint Charlie of Kirk in Phoenix yesterday loomed. 302 00:20:43,675 --> 00:20:47,595 Speaker 1: Google searches for Jimmy Kimmel were greater than or equal 303 00:20:47,675 --> 00:20:52,235 Speaker 1: to those of Google searches for Charlie Kirk. And of course, 304 00:20:52,275 --> 00:20:54,755 Speaker 1: as I suggested last week, it is increasingly evident the 305 00:20:54,835 --> 00:20:57,795 Speaker 1: right canon will continue to insist otherwise. But the killing 306 00:20:57,795 --> 00:21:02,315 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk was a personal act, maybe with political undertones, 307 00:21:03,115 --> 00:21:06,915 Speaker 1: and BC reported quote one person familiar with the federal 308 00:21:06,915 --> 00:21:09,715 Speaker 1: investigation said that quote. Thus far, there is no evidence 309 00:21:09,715 --> 00:21:14,555 Speaker 1: connecting the suspect with any left wing groups. Every indication 310 00:21:14,675 --> 00:21:17,595 Speaker 1: so far is that this was one guy who did 311 00:21:17,595 --> 00:21:23,195 Speaker 1: one really bad thing because he found Kirk's ideology personally offensive. Unquote. 312 00:21:24,875 --> 00:21:27,875 Speaker 1: I had suggested last week that he saw and again 313 00:21:27,915 --> 00:21:31,355 Speaker 1: I condemned shooting anybody, but I especially condemned shooting political 314 00:21:31,395 --> 00:21:35,995 Speaker 1: commentators because g guess what, I'm a political commentator. I 315 00:21:36,075 --> 00:21:39,275 Speaker 1: condemned shooting anybody, but I suggested the alleged shooter saw 316 00:21:39,555 --> 00:21:43,635 Speaker 1: Kirk's demonizing of transgendered people as a direct threat to 317 00:21:43,675 --> 00:21:49,635 Speaker 1: someone he loved who is transgendered. End of story, not 318 00:21:49,715 --> 00:21:53,355 Speaker 1: that it will end the story. If you heard our 319 00:21:53,435 --> 00:21:56,555 Speaker 1: bulletin Friday night, you know Trump declared criticism of himself 320 00:21:56,555 --> 00:21:59,715 Speaker 1: on television is illegal. He made up statistics that it's 321 00:21:59,795 --> 00:22:02,755 Speaker 1: ninety seven percent bad that coverage is, or maybe he 322 00:22:02,795 --> 00:22:05,115 Speaker 1: didn't make it up. Hell, his presidency is eighty seven 323 00:22:05,115 --> 00:22:09,875 Speaker 1: percent bad. Maybe the coverage is completely accurate. But clearly, 324 00:22:11,395 --> 00:22:14,715 Speaker 1: between that and the whole Kirk mess and everything else 325 00:22:14,755 --> 00:22:20,235 Speaker 1: he did over the weekend, the last remaining fraid damaged, diaphanous, 326 00:22:20,435 --> 00:22:27,715 Speaker 1: decaying line tethering the good blimp Trump to reality has snapped, 327 00:22:30,035 --> 00:22:33,875 Speaker 1: and it's snapped on this subject. Prosecute them anyway, I 328 00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:36,955 Speaker 1: don't care if there's no crime, and convict them anyway. 329 00:22:37,155 --> 00:22:40,195 Speaker 1: I don't care if there's no evidence and jail them anyway. 330 00:22:40,435 --> 00:22:42,635 Speaker 1: I don't care if the jury found them not guilty. 331 00:22:43,795 --> 00:22:48,475 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, of course. That is the memo or text 332 00:22:48,635 --> 00:22:52,275 Speaker 1: or whatever that was he composed Saturday night that began 333 00:22:52,595 --> 00:22:56,755 Speaker 1: perm semi colon that he somehow wound up posting on 334 00:22:56,875 --> 00:23:00,955 Speaker 1: truth Social instead of sending it to somebody to send 335 00:23:00,995 --> 00:23:03,915 Speaker 1: a Pam Bondy or whatever he was trying to do, 336 00:23:04,035 --> 00:23:08,155 Speaker 1: text it to her, email it because Grandpa Shardy really 337 00:23:08,275 --> 00:23:11,395 Speaker 1: is losing it. It was full of stuff that had 338 00:23:11,395 --> 00:23:14,795 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Eric Sebret prosecutor resigning rather than 339 00:23:14,835 --> 00:23:20,075 Speaker 1: prosecuting Letitia James over mortgage paperwork. It was full of 340 00:23:20,075 --> 00:23:22,835 Speaker 1: the lies Trump tells himself He's always done this. There's 341 00:23:22,875 --> 00:23:25,035 Speaker 1: one way to never be wrong. When you are wrong, 342 00:23:25,275 --> 00:23:28,995 Speaker 1: just lie to yourself. Is it me or is it them? Oh? 343 00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:33,475 Speaker 1: It's them, Pam. I have reviewed over thirty statements in 344 00:23:33,555 --> 00:23:36,315 Speaker 1: posts saying that essentially same old story as last time. 345 00:23:36,395 --> 00:23:39,635 Speaker 1: All talked, no action, nothing is being done. What about Komy, Adam, 346 00:23:39,675 --> 00:23:42,555 Speaker 1: Shifty Shift, Letitia, They're all guilty as hell, but nothing 347 00:23:42,635 --> 00:23:44,315 Speaker 1: is going to be done. Then we almost put a 348 00:23:44,355 --> 00:23:47,275 Speaker 1: Democrat supported US attorney in Virginia with a really bad 349 00:23:47,275 --> 00:23:50,275 Speaker 1: Republican past, awoke Rhino is never going to do his job. 350 00:23:50,435 --> 00:23:52,595 Speaker 1: That's why two of the worst DEM senators pushed him 351 00:23:52,635 --> 00:23:54,875 Speaker 1: so hard, even lied to the media and said he quit. 352 00:23:54,955 --> 00:23:56,835 Speaker 1: We had no case, No I fired him. There's a 353 00:23:56,835 --> 00:23:59,995 Speaker 1: great case of many layers legal pundency. So Lindsay's a 354 00:24:00,035 --> 00:24:02,955 Speaker 1: really good lawyer, likes you a lot. We can't delay 355 00:24:02,995 --> 00:24:06,315 Speaker 1: any longer. It's killing a ripping and credibility. They impeach 356 00:24:06,435 --> 00:24:10,315 Speaker 1: me twice and knighted me five times exclamation point over nothing. 357 00:24:10,515 --> 00:24:18,515 Speaker 1: Justice must be served now, President dj TA. Oddly enough, 358 00:24:18,555 --> 00:24:22,395 Speaker 1: Trump deleted that rather than lying and pretending he did 359 00:24:22,395 --> 00:24:27,955 Speaker 1: not mean to do that, or lying and pretending he 360 00:24:27,995 --> 00:24:31,635 Speaker 1: did mean to do that. Lindsey, by the way, is 361 00:24:31,675 --> 00:24:35,035 Speaker 1: not Lindsey Graham as you might have thought. It's Lindsey Halligan, 362 00:24:35,395 --> 00:24:40,875 Speaker 1: an insurance attorney who Trump sicked on the Smithsonian, who 363 00:24:40,955 --> 00:24:45,435 Speaker 1: has never prosecuted a case, but has really great TV hair, 364 00:24:46,835 --> 00:24:54,355 Speaker 1: And we'll do whatever Trump wants in exchange for free perms. Next, 365 00:24:54,435 --> 00:24:57,315 Speaker 1: Trump is going after the US attorney in Maryland, Kelly Hayes. 366 00:24:57,355 --> 00:25:02,315 Speaker 1: Trump wants her to prosecute Adam Schiff for I don't know, 367 00:25:02,595 --> 00:25:08,155 Speaker 1: illegal possession of soup spoons. This is different than the 368 00:25:08,195 --> 00:25:12,355 Speaker 1: Siebert case with Letitia James. Trump can tell himself that 369 00:25:12,395 --> 00:25:17,395 Speaker 1: Sebert was a Democratic plant. Hayes is the same prosecutor 370 00:25:17,435 --> 00:25:19,635 Speaker 1: who approved the crack of Dawn's search of the home 371 00:25:19,635 --> 00:25:24,275 Speaker 1: of John Bolton, which turned up found a spoon. Sir, 372 00:25:26,315 --> 00:25:31,395 Speaker 1: she is a loyalist and Trump offing a Trump loyalist 373 00:25:31,595 --> 00:25:33,955 Speaker 1: is a different thin tight rope for the fat man 374 00:25:33,995 --> 00:25:38,355 Speaker 1: to try to walk across his man Poulty over to 375 00:25:38,435 --> 00:25:41,835 Speaker 1: finance the Renfield who dug up the mortgage info, most 376 00:25:41,835 --> 00:25:45,715 Speaker 1: of which appears to be wrong and totally legal, and 377 00:25:46,195 --> 00:25:49,755 Speaker 1: the same thing that Paulty's father did. He's still at it. 378 00:25:50,315 --> 00:25:55,035 Speaker 1: He still doesn't get it. Look up Brendan Carr online, 379 00:25:55,035 --> 00:25:58,115 Speaker 1: mister Poulty. He's still insisting the Fed governor Lisa Cook 380 00:25:58,195 --> 00:26:00,475 Speaker 1: must be prosecuted. He tweeted. Would a doc be allowed 381 00:26:00,475 --> 00:26:02,515 Speaker 1: to see patients if he was accused of a crime 382 00:26:02,555 --> 00:26:06,395 Speaker 1: punishable by jail? No, I don't know, mister pault Is 383 00:26:06,395 --> 00:26:13,035 Speaker 1: this a Trump doctor? Also, this is all incredibly impeachable. 384 00:26:13,875 --> 00:26:19,035 Speaker 1: Pressuring prosecutors to prosecute your political enemies, or not to 385 00:26:19,115 --> 00:26:24,035 Speaker 1: prosecute your friends while you our president. Well, Hillary Clinton 386 00:26:24,075 --> 00:26:26,635 Speaker 1: got it right yesterday writing of the posted memo to 387 00:26:26,675 --> 00:26:30,115 Speaker 1: Pam Bondy. Quote, imagine if Richard Nixon had just tweeted 388 00:26:30,155 --> 00:26:34,995 Speaker 1: out the Watergate scandal rather than putting it on secret tape. 389 00:26:35,635 --> 00:26:38,875 Speaker 1: This is not having the impact it should because he 390 00:26:38,955 --> 00:26:43,315 Speaker 1: did it in front of everybody. Another secret to Trump's success. 391 00:26:43,915 --> 00:26:48,195 Speaker 1: Why waste all that time trying to be secretive when 392 00:26:48,195 --> 00:26:51,395 Speaker 1: most people don't know what they're seeing anyway, And of 393 00:26:51,435 --> 00:26:54,075 Speaker 1: course he can now claim maybe he wasn't writing to 394 00:26:54,195 --> 00:27:00,275 Speaker 1: Pam Bondy, maybe he was writing to Pam Anderson. I 395 00:27:00,395 --> 00:27:05,355 Speaker 1: think you could make a really good attorney general. The 396 00:27:05,395 --> 00:27:08,595 Speaker 1: other thing is you don't do this as high profile, 397 00:27:08,795 --> 00:27:12,275 Speaker 1: front facing goons from your own dictatorship turn out to 398 00:27:12,315 --> 00:27:16,795 Speaker 1: be digging their own professional grapes. You've heard about Tom Homan, 399 00:27:17,675 --> 00:27:21,075 Speaker 1: the bully from Ice, and the recording of him taking 400 00:27:21,155 --> 00:27:24,915 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars from two FBI agents he thought were 401 00:27:24,955 --> 00:27:30,675 Speaker 1: businessmen who wanted to win Trump government contracts. Firstly, this 402 00:27:30,835 --> 00:27:35,115 Speaker 1: is the cheapest bastard, the cheapest corrupt politician since Spiro 403 00:27:35,235 --> 00:27:38,955 Speaker 1: Agnew took cash in a bag in the White House 404 00:27:38,995 --> 00:27:43,235 Speaker 1: Office when he was Vice president, Like nine hundred dollars 405 00:27:43,995 --> 00:27:47,115 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars, I could buy Tom Homan for fifty 406 00:27:47,155 --> 00:27:53,275 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. What do I get for one hundred thousand dollars? Okay? 407 00:27:53,315 --> 00:27:57,435 Speaker 1: So then after this Trump's DOJ shut the investigation down 408 00:27:57,475 --> 00:27:59,235 Speaker 1: even though there is a tape, and the person who 409 00:27:59,315 --> 00:28:04,995 Speaker 1: recommended shutting it down was Emil Beauve. Anybody in this missing, anybody? 410 00:28:05,075 --> 00:28:07,355 Speaker 1: We can't send a jail for this, shouldn't They have 411 00:28:07,395 --> 00:28:10,395 Speaker 1: brought in Alina Habba to f this up. Words come on, 412 00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:15,475 Speaker 1: as I noted online, how in the hell did we 413 00:28:15,555 --> 00:28:18,835 Speaker 1: not see this coming? Tom Holman literally has the word 414 00:28:18,995 --> 00:28:24,915 Speaker 1: ho in his name. Dave It's Cough of the New 415 00:28:24,995 --> 00:28:28,515 Speaker 1: York Times and the Great book about the Movie Network 416 00:28:28,555 --> 00:28:30,995 Speaker 1: pointed out that if you like cliches, the fifty thousand 417 00:28:30,995 --> 00:28:35,915 Speaker 1: dollars was literally inside a bag a bag, as in 418 00:28:36,235 --> 00:28:39,675 Speaker 1: it's in the bag, or he's left holding the bag, 419 00:28:40,235 --> 00:28:44,675 Speaker 1: or Tom Holman is Trump's bag man, but the winner 420 00:28:45,555 --> 00:28:48,835 Speaker 1: is From Saturday Night Live writer Brian Tucker quote, Look, 421 00:28:49,635 --> 00:28:52,115 Speaker 1: Tom Holman has not had a trial and has never 422 00:28:52,195 --> 00:28:54,475 Speaker 1: been proven guilty, So let's all take a step back 423 00:28:54,715 --> 00:28:57,155 Speaker 1: and do what he would do. Send him to a 424 00:28:57,195 --> 00:29:01,275 Speaker 1: secret prison in El Salvador until we can figure this out. 425 00:29:10,395 --> 00:29:16,795 Speaker 1: Cass please well, by the way, Russia violated Estonian airspace 426 00:29:17,155 --> 00:29:20,155 Speaker 1: now fighter jets not drones this time, and Poland had 427 00:29:20,195 --> 00:29:25,675 Speaker 1: to scramble its jets again after another incursion. Trump slept 428 00:29:25,675 --> 00:29:28,715 Speaker 1: through that MAGA is concerned only about one thing. When 429 00:29:29,035 --> 00:29:33,475 Speaker 1: is Charlie Kirk coming back from the dead? And don't 430 00:29:33,515 --> 00:29:36,995 Speaker 1: shout at me about that you think I made up 431 00:29:37,035 --> 00:29:39,955 Speaker 1: that idea. I have lost count of how many social 432 00:29:39,955 --> 00:29:43,875 Speaker 1: media posts there are right this minute asking if that's possible, 433 00:29:44,555 --> 00:29:46,355 Speaker 1: or saying, oh, wouldn't it be great if he came 434 00:29:46,395 --> 00:29:50,555 Speaker 1: back from the dead during the thing you didn't maybe tomorrow. 435 00:29:52,355 --> 00:29:55,035 Speaker 1: The canonization of Saint Charlie of Kirk is the only 436 00:29:55,075 --> 00:29:58,395 Speaker 1: thing they have left here. The Kirk memorial couldn't even 437 00:29:58,435 --> 00:30:02,795 Speaker 1: break the NFL's hold on Sunday afternoon trending topics on 438 00:30:02,835 --> 00:30:06,475 Speaker 1: social media, but they are in full Jesus mode here. 439 00:30:08,275 --> 00:30:12,235 Speaker 1: A spokesman for Kirk's turning point in Doctrination Group actually 440 00:30:12,235 --> 00:30:16,475 Speaker 1: put out a statement transforming the lack of an exit 441 00:30:16,555 --> 00:30:22,755 Speaker 1: wound into a miracle, not a metaphor not like a 442 00:30:22,795 --> 00:30:27,195 Speaker 1: miracle or kind of almost No, a miracle, and he 443 00:30:27,275 --> 00:30:32,675 Speaker 1: quoted a surgeon. Now the surgeon is anonymous, and he's 444 00:30:32,715 --> 00:30:37,315 Speaker 1: being quoted by a spokesman who needs turning point USA 445 00:30:37,435 --> 00:30:42,315 Speaker 1: to continue. Even without Charlie Kirk, Fox ran this as 446 00:30:42,355 --> 00:30:46,435 Speaker 1: a major story yesterday. Are you ready? Even in death, 447 00:30:46,555 --> 00:30:50,995 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk may have saved lives. The surgeon explained that quote, 448 00:30:51,115 --> 00:30:53,595 Speaker 1: I've seen wounds from this caliber many times, and they 449 00:30:53,635 --> 00:30:56,115 Speaker 1: always just go through everything. This would have taken a 450 00:30:56,195 --> 00:30:59,275 Speaker 1: moose or two down, an elk, et cetera. It was 451 00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:03,435 Speaker 1: an absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed. The 452 00:31:03,515 --> 00:31:07,195 Speaker 1: doctor described, kirk bone is quote so healthy and quote 453 00:31:07,315 --> 00:31:13,715 Speaker 1: so impressive that he's like the man of steel. All Right, 454 00:31:14,155 --> 00:31:16,675 Speaker 1: anybody recognized the problem with saying he's the man of 455 00:31:16,715 --> 00:31:21,955 Speaker 1: steel when he's not living anymore. Back to this fantasy 456 00:31:21,995 --> 00:31:25,835 Speaker 1: from Fox News, the spokesman concluded, quote, even in death, 457 00:31:25,995 --> 00:31:34,595 Speaker 1: Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him. Remarkable, miraculous. Ah. 458 00:31:34,955 --> 00:31:37,875 Speaker 1: Of course, they are helped by morons like Thomas Cardinal 459 00:31:37,915 --> 00:31:41,995 Speaker 1: Dolan of New York. First, the Cardinal said he'd never 460 00:31:41,995 --> 00:31:45,715 Speaker 1: heard of Charlie Kirk, and then he said on Fox 461 00:31:45,715 --> 00:31:49,795 Speaker 1: that he had looked at some videos, apparently in order 462 00:31:49,835 --> 00:31:52,475 Speaker 1: to get the guest shot on Fox. Guess which videos 463 00:31:52,475 --> 00:31:55,515 Speaker 1: he looked at? He looked at the Bible ones or 464 00:31:55,675 --> 00:31:59,155 Speaker 1: did he look at the we should stone transgendered people 465 00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:02,675 Speaker 1: and execute Biden and force twelve year olds to watch 466 00:32:02,715 --> 00:32:06,155 Speaker 1: public executions with guillotineans and the ones about the great 467 00:32:06,155 --> 00:32:09,835 Speaker 1: Replacement theory? Which ones do you think he watched? Cardinal 468 00:32:09,875 --> 00:32:12,955 Speaker 1: Gullible added, this guy is a modern day Saint Paul. 469 00:32:13,195 --> 00:32:15,715 Speaker 1: He was a missionary. He's an evangelist, he's a hero. 470 00:32:15,955 --> 00:32:18,275 Speaker 1: He's one I think that knows what Jesus meant when 471 00:32:18,275 --> 00:32:24,235 Speaker 1: he said the truth will set you free. Also, Stone 472 00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:29,675 Speaker 1: a transgendered person today, he said, Cardinal Dolan. Also, you 473 00:32:29,715 --> 00:32:32,835 Speaker 1: know that Charlie Kirk called Pope Francis a Marxist and 474 00:32:32,915 --> 00:32:37,355 Speaker 1: suggested Pope Francis was a heretic, right, and that Kirk's 475 00:32:37,355 --> 00:32:41,835 Speaker 1: first religious mentor was Jerry Folwell, Junior, Jerry, have I 476 00:32:41,915 --> 00:32:44,635 Speaker 1: introduced you to my wife? And if so? Can I 477 00:32:44,755 --> 00:32:52,235 Speaker 1: watch Fallwell Junior? They're not doing this well, the canonization 478 00:32:52,315 --> 00:32:57,555 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk. There's Congressman Mike Collins of Georgia blasting 479 00:32:57,595 --> 00:33:00,275 Speaker 1: the fifty eight Democrats who did not vote yes on 480 00:33:00,395 --> 00:33:03,595 Speaker 1: the motion condemning the Kirk murder. And that's when somebody 481 00:33:03,635 --> 00:33:07,275 Speaker 1: told Congressman Mike Collins that he also did not vote 482 00:33:07,355 --> 00:33:11,675 Speaker 1: yes on the motion condemning the Kirk murder. Congressman Collins 483 00:33:12,035 --> 00:33:16,595 Speaker 1: walked off the House floor without casting a vote. He said, 484 00:33:17,435 --> 00:33:21,475 Speaker 1: it was a mistake, Mike, You bet your ass it 485 00:33:21,475 --> 00:33:25,235 Speaker 1: was a mistake. But the winner the all time Lou 486 00:33:25,315 --> 00:33:29,675 Speaker 1: Lou kat Kerr, who is a troubled woman who says 487 00:33:29,715 --> 00:33:35,315 Speaker 1: she is a prophetess. She says she was brought to 488 00:33:35,395 --> 00:33:40,395 Speaker 1: heaven to watch Kirk's ascension. She does not stop to 489 00:33:40,435 --> 00:33:42,795 Speaker 1: explain why they went to such trouble to bring her there, 490 00:33:42,835 --> 00:33:45,635 Speaker 1: and yet still nobody in the afterlife will help her 491 00:33:45,715 --> 00:33:51,475 Speaker 1: at all with her purple red nightmare hair. But she 492 00:33:51,595 --> 00:33:55,035 Speaker 1: did explain that Charlie Kirk's reward in the afterlife was 493 00:33:55,075 --> 00:34:01,355 Speaker 1: a quiver with a thousand arrows of light and a 494 00:34:01,555 --> 00:34:09,155 Speaker 1: large ice cream cone. She says she saw him eating 495 00:34:09,315 --> 00:34:11,395 Speaker 1: an ice cream cone in heaven. 496 00:34:13,315 --> 00:34:18,955 Speaker 2: Oh man, there are so many many terrible, terrible jokes 497 00:34:19,515 --> 00:34:23,235 Speaker 2: available here. I don't even have to lean forward in 498 00:34:23,275 --> 00:34:26,275 Speaker 2: my chair to grab the worst of them. But I 499 00:34:26,355 --> 00:34:30,355 Speaker 2: won't make any of them because I won't make any 500 00:34:30,395 --> 00:34:31,715 Speaker 2: of them even. 501 00:34:31,515 --> 00:34:40,355 Speaker 1: About Charlie Kirk. Now, I'll make them about Nancy Mace. 502 00:34:40,475 --> 00:34:43,155 Speaker 1: Also of interest here add me to the list. I 503 00:34:43,195 --> 00:34:45,715 Speaker 1: think Nancy Mace has announced she's going to end my 504 00:34:45,915 --> 00:34:49,395 Speaker 1: career or she's going to end her career. It was 505 00:34:49,435 --> 00:34:53,315 Speaker 1: a little unclear, Like everything else, she says. This would mean, though, 506 00:34:53,355 --> 00:34:56,475 Speaker 1: if it's me, it's now forty one years in a row, 507 00:34:56,515 --> 00:34:59,035 Speaker 1: that somebody has made a threat to end my career 508 00:34:59,075 --> 00:35:03,915 Speaker 1: and I'm still here eating ice cream and they are 509 00:35:03,955 --> 00:35:08,995 Speaker 1: all gone. In fact, some of them are dead. It's 510 00:35:09,035 --> 00:35:17,435 Speaker 1: a general manager in Boston audios. See you. That's next. 511 00:35:17,555 --> 00:35:20,595 Speaker 2: Oh there's ice cream in heaven large cones. 512 00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:27,955 Speaker 1: This is countdown. This is Countdown with Keith old woman 513 00:35:48,915 --> 00:35:51,955 Speaker 1: still ahead on this edition of Countdown. Good old Nancy Mace, 514 00:35:53,035 --> 00:35:59,555 Speaker 1: half congresswoman, half plastic inflatable doll has retweeted me saying 515 00:35:59,635 --> 00:36:02,715 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and Sinclair Broadcasting are both going to hell 516 00:36:04,115 --> 00:36:07,475 Speaker 1: if thet nothing else this week. Attacking Charlie Kirk as 517 00:36:07,475 --> 00:36:11,395 Speaker 1: a guaranteed way to end your career, she wrote apart 518 00:36:11,435 --> 00:36:14,955 Speaker 1: from Nancy leaving a few words out there. I mean, 519 00:36:14,995 --> 00:36:19,275 Speaker 1: I get what she means, but technically she's saying the 520 00:36:19,515 --> 00:36:23,355 Speaker 1: left has has already learned this, and it's I'm not 521 00:36:24,275 --> 00:36:27,595 Speaker 1: sure what she wrote. Anyway. What are you gonna do, Nancy? 522 00:36:27,595 --> 00:36:31,035 Speaker 1: Get me fired from Current TV, get me fired from 523 00:36:31,075 --> 00:36:37,195 Speaker 1: my Disney pension. I'm independent. I literally work for nobody, 524 00:36:37,635 --> 00:36:39,235 Speaker 1: and I have all the money I need for the 525 00:36:39,275 --> 00:36:40,955 Speaker 1: rest of my life until I linger to like one 526 00:36:41,035 --> 00:36:45,315 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two plus Nancy. People have been threatening 527 00:36:45,315 --> 00:36:48,915 Speaker 1: to end my career since literally nineteen eighty four. He 528 00:36:48,995 --> 00:36:52,715 Speaker 1: will never again work in this business. The Boston executive 529 00:36:52,755 --> 00:36:57,355 Speaker 1: said to my agent, guess what he's dead now. A 530 00:36:57,395 --> 00:36:59,995 Speaker 1: young writer who wrote My career was over in two 531 00:36:59,995 --> 00:37:03,155 Speaker 1: thousand and one in a national magazine just starting there. 532 00:37:03,275 --> 00:37:08,715 Speaker 1: He's already retired and I could die before this finishes posting. 533 00:37:08,955 --> 00:37:12,835 Speaker 1: But professionally, right now, I'm still here and all of 534 00:37:12,875 --> 00:37:17,755 Speaker 1: them are not. Goodbye, Nancy, Good evening, and welcome to 535 00:37:17,795 --> 00:37:20,755 Speaker 1: the end of my career. Well not yet anyway. Next 536 00:37:20,755 --> 00:37:23,115 Speaker 1: in things I promised not to tell first, believe it 537 00:37:23,155 --> 00:37:25,275 Speaker 1: or not, there's still more new idiots to talk about. 538 00:37:25,275 --> 00:37:28,555 Speaker 1: The roundup of the miscreants, morons and Dunning kruegerffect specimens 539 00:37:28,875 --> 00:37:35,355 Speaker 1: who constitute today's other worst persons in the world, The brons, 540 00:37:35,435 --> 00:37:38,075 Speaker 1: Congress and Randy Fine. Now, every time I think they 541 00:37:38,115 --> 00:37:41,595 Speaker 1: found the dumbest person in America and elected them to Congress, 542 00:37:42,155 --> 00:37:47,555 Speaker 1: we locate a dumber one. Now it's Randy Fine. Now, 543 00:37:47,675 --> 00:37:51,795 Speaker 1: I've slimmed down, but I've been overweight my whole life 544 00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:54,155 Speaker 1: since they took my tonsils out when I was six. 545 00:37:54,595 --> 00:37:58,995 Speaker 1: In retrospect, that was a mistake. Swallowing was difficult. Then 546 00:37:59,035 --> 00:38:01,555 Speaker 1: one day it was not difficult at all, and the 547 00:38:01,595 --> 00:38:06,075 Speaker 1: food began to flow night and day. So I genuinely 548 00:38:06,195 --> 00:38:11,115 Speaker 1: start here talking about Congressman Fine in a place of concern. 549 00:38:12,115 --> 00:38:13,955 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to pretend to you. I don't 550 00:38:14,115 --> 00:38:17,435 Speaker 1: end in a place of concern. But Congressman Fine is 551 00:38:17,515 --> 00:38:22,715 Speaker 1: like three hundred, three hundred and fifty pounds. He's a 552 00:38:22,755 --> 00:38:24,395 Speaker 1: big guy. I want to tell you I saw him 553 00:38:24,475 --> 00:38:27,115 Speaker 1: sitting on the George Washington Bridge dangling his feet in 554 00:38:27,115 --> 00:38:30,715 Speaker 1: the water. Hey, I'll tell you so. Fine goes on 555 00:38:30,795 --> 00:38:34,035 Speaker 1: CNN and bash is Kimmel quote. We live in a 556 00:38:34,115 --> 00:38:37,955 Speaker 1: world where a meaningful percentage of people now believe violence 557 00:38:38,155 --> 00:38:44,875 Speaker 1: is legitimate as in aside Randy, who did that? Yes, Randy, 558 00:38:44,995 --> 00:38:48,715 Speaker 1: it was Trump. I got to flash back to bo 559 00:38:48,875 --> 00:38:53,515 Speaker 1: Jack Horseman there, Randy, is this your fault? Dana Bash? 560 00:38:53,555 --> 00:38:56,035 Speaker 1: And this might as well have been the lead story today. 561 00:38:56,395 --> 00:39:01,195 Speaker 1: Dana Bash actually pushed back against Randy Fine, which, again, 562 00:39:01,235 --> 00:39:04,115 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen him, it's quite an accomplishment. Quote 563 00:39:04,355 --> 00:39:09,275 Speaker 1: kim didn't legitimize violence. Fine kept throwing his weight around 564 00:39:09,635 --> 00:39:12,915 Speaker 1: those comments, blaming MAGA for the death of Charlie Kirk. Well, 565 00:39:13,035 --> 00:39:17,355 Speaker 1: Bash interrupted him again, that's not what Kimmel said. Fine 566 00:39:17,435 --> 00:39:23,115 Speaker 1: still finished. I gasped when I read it. Randy is 567 00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:26,755 Speaker 1: one fat guy to another. That gasp that may have 568 00:39:26,795 --> 00:39:31,315 Speaker 1: been caused by something else. See Your Doctor Runner up 569 00:39:31,355 --> 00:39:36,435 Speaker 1: worser Stephen A. Smith. Steven A. Smith has decided he 570 00:39:36,475 --> 00:39:40,395 Speaker 1: is a political commentator. He does a show called an 571 00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:44,715 Speaker 1: XM radio show called straight Shooter. Now that's offensive in 572 00:39:44,795 --> 00:39:48,155 Speaker 1: light of Charlie kirk and in the background of the 573 00:39:48,235 --> 00:39:51,515 Speaker 1: video version of this, there's the capitol. So that makes 574 00:39:51,595 --> 00:39:55,595 Speaker 1: him a political commentator. Again, I don't have any objection 575 00:39:55,635 --> 00:39:58,795 Speaker 1: to anybody going sports to politics. That would be like 576 00:39:58,875 --> 00:40:01,915 Speaker 1: me saying, hey, Randy Fine is a big guy. Oh, 577 00:40:01,955 --> 00:40:05,715 Speaker 1: it's a bit like, No, I get it. I did that, 578 00:40:05,795 --> 00:40:10,155 Speaker 1: I know. But the call in line for people calling 579 00:40:10,195 --> 00:40:14,595 Speaker 1: into the Stephen A. Smith Straight Shooter Show, the number 580 00:40:14,795 --> 00:40:18,755 Speaker 1: ends in one of the letter equivalents P O t US, 581 00:40:19,315 --> 00:40:23,475 Speaker 1: so it's you dial whatever the number is potus. Problem 582 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:27,395 Speaker 1: is Steve is not doing the work on this to 583 00:40:27,515 --> 00:40:30,515 Speaker 1: use the kids phrase, tell me you didn't actually see 584 00:40:30,555 --> 00:40:34,235 Speaker 1: the Jimmy Kimmel references to Kirk. Without telling me you 585 00:40:34,315 --> 00:40:38,755 Speaker 1: didn't actually see the Jimmy Kimmel references to Kirk, the. 586 00:40:38,715 --> 00:40:40,795 Speaker 4: Only thing that I would say, as it pertains to 587 00:40:40,875 --> 00:40:42,435 Speaker 4: Jimmy Kimmel was where was the joke? 588 00:40:42,475 --> 00:40:44,955 Speaker 2: Because you're a late night host and obviously. 589 00:40:44,515 --> 00:40:46,915 Speaker 4: That has a comedic attachment attachment to it. 590 00:40:47,235 --> 00:40:54,355 Speaker 1: Where was the joke? Obviously it wasn't anything funny about that. However, No, 591 00:40:54,795 --> 00:40:59,115 Speaker 1: it wasn't a joke. You're right about that. It wasn't 592 00:40:59,115 --> 00:41:01,275 Speaker 1: a joke on a late night show. Surprise, like when 593 00:41:01,355 --> 00:41:03,355 Speaker 1: Letterman did the first show after nine to eleven and 594 00:41:03,355 --> 00:41:06,515 Speaker 1: he didn't make any jokes. You just back tears and 595 00:41:06,635 --> 00:41:12,035 Speaker 1: the shows that were done after every assassination, and you know, 596 00:41:12,075 --> 00:41:14,595 Speaker 1: the night after Martin Luther King was killed, that Johnny 597 00:41:14,635 --> 00:41:17,315 Speaker 1: Carson didn't do jokes, and then you know they postponed 598 00:41:17,395 --> 00:41:20,275 Speaker 1: these show. When you know Charlie Kirk gets shot, you 599 00:41:20,355 --> 00:41:23,435 Speaker 1: don't go for the joke, even if you're Jimmy Kimmel. 600 00:41:24,075 --> 00:41:27,155 Speaker 1: That wasn't supposed to be a joke. Stephen does not 601 00:41:27,235 --> 00:41:31,235 Speaker 1: get this. Stephen thinks the controversy is that whatever was 602 00:41:31,315 --> 00:41:34,355 Speaker 1: said about Kimmel or by Kimmel about Kirk wasn't funny. 603 00:41:34,835 --> 00:41:37,235 Speaker 1: That's what he thinks was wrong. That's what he really thinks. 604 00:41:37,275 --> 00:41:42,195 Speaker 1: This is about. Where is the joke. Steve doesn't doesn't 605 00:41:42,435 --> 00:41:46,435 Speaker 1: doesn't get this. He went on at length to blame Kimmel. 606 00:41:47,595 --> 00:41:49,675 Speaker 1: I ha note Stephen is after all, paid by the 607 00:41:49,715 --> 00:41:54,515 Speaker 1: people who caved on Kimmel, people like Bob Iger. Steven 608 00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:58,195 Speaker 1: is a company man. Steven explained that Jimmy's failure was 609 00:41:58,235 --> 00:42:01,635 Speaker 1: he didn't understand quote the game that he is playing. 610 00:42:03,835 --> 00:42:05,915 Speaker 1: Steven is a very very simple view of the world, 611 00:42:05,955 --> 00:42:09,035 Speaker 1: as evidence by thinking that everything is a game, and 612 00:42:09,075 --> 00:42:11,995 Speaker 1: that every political show is like every sports show, where 613 00:42:12,035 --> 00:42:14,675 Speaker 1: the point is how much time can you kill without 614 00:42:14,755 --> 00:42:19,395 Speaker 1: saying anything? That's Stephen a Smith's specialty. I mean, honest 615 00:42:19,395 --> 00:42:21,955 Speaker 1: to god, he's one of the all time greats. You 616 00:42:22,035 --> 00:42:24,275 Speaker 1: have one idea and stretch it out the three hours 617 00:42:24,275 --> 00:42:29,675 Speaker 1: a day, that's pretty good. That's his specialty. Anyway, Steve's 618 00:42:29,755 --> 00:42:33,995 Speaker 1: naivete and his unwillingness to do the work, like read 619 00:42:34,035 --> 00:42:37,675 Speaker 1: the quotes, watch the videotape, just have somebody pull it 620 00:42:37,755 --> 00:42:41,635 Speaker 1: up on your gold plated machine for you. His unwillingness 621 00:42:41,715 --> 00:42:44,355 Speaker 1: to do the work is going to be terribly exposed 622 00:42:44,715 --> 00:42:47,075 Speaker 1: in the weeks and months to come, as will the 623 00:42:47,115 --> 00:42:49,875 Speaker 1: fact that all those rumors about people encouraging him to 624 00:42:49,955 --> 00:42:53,595 Speaker 1: run for president as a Democrat, they were all started 625 00:42:53,635 --> 00:42:57,835 Speaker 1: by by him. How do we know this because, as 626 00:42:57,835 --> 00:43:00,635 Speaker 1: I mentioned, the number for the telephone call in line 627 00:43:00,675 --> 00:43:06,475 Speaker 1: for listeners ends in botus. He chose that, Steve, you 628 00:43:06,555 --> 00:43:09,115 Speaker 1: need to be a little more subtle. Your political audience 629 00:43:09,155 --> 00:43:13,075 Speaker 1: is not as dumb as your sports audience is. Holy crap, 630 00:43:13,995 --> 00:43:17,555 Speaker 1: But our winner the worst. Speaking of naive Vanity Fair 631 00:43:17,635 --> 00:43:22,235 Speaker 1: magazine editor Mark Guiducci, We've already been through this with 632 00:43:22,315 --> 00:43:25,715 Speaker 1: Mark about the new editor there breaking in by trying 633 00:43:25,715 --> 00:43:29,435 Speaker 1: to put Milania Trump on the cover of Vanity Fair 634 00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:32,355 Speaker 1: and the Vanity Fair staff, which leans a little to 635 00:43:32,435 --> 00:43:37,275 Speaker 1: the left, threatening to walk out. It was thought their 636 00:43:37,315 --> 00:43:40,995 Speaker 1: response might lead this guy Mark to reel himself in 637 00:43:41,035 --> 00:43:44,435 Speaker 1: a little bit. It did not. Last week he named 638 00:43:44,435 --> 00:43:48,115 Speaker 1: a new West Coast editor for Vanity Fair, responsible for 639 00:43:48,155 --> 00:43:51,435 Speaker 1: some writing and for quote editing stories across platforms and 640 00:43:51,475 --> 00:43:56,355 Speaker 1: topic areas, with a focus on events, industries and culture 641 00:43:56,475 --> 00:44:02,435 Speaker 1: of the Pacific region. And the new editor is Alivia Newsy. 642 00:44:03,075 --> 00:44:08,475 Speaker 1: She's back now. Look, she's the mother of my dogs, 643 00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:12,075 Speaker 1: at least the two oldest dogs. So I'm not being 644 00:44:12,155 --> 00:44:15,915 Speaker 1: cynical or ironic or anything when I say I will 645 00:44:15,955 --> 00:44:18,315 Speaker 1: always value her for that and my introduction to the 646 00:44:18,315 --> 00:44:21,035 Speaker 1: world of dogs, and if she's ever in real trouble, 647 00:44:22,435 --> 00:44:25,395 Speaker 1: I'll help, no questions asked. I offered that last year, 648 00:44:26,515 --> 00:44:28,395 Speaker 1: reached out to her agent and said, I don't know 649 00:44:28,435 --> 00:44:31,195 Speaker 1: what help I could be, probably none. If she can 650 00:44:31,235 --> 00:44:34,435 Speaker 1: think of anything, it's hers. I do have to figure 651 00:44:34,435 --> 00:44:37,315 Speaker 1: out what to tell the dogs, because when we broke up, 652 00:44:37,395 --> 00:44:40,195 Speaker 1: I told Rose and Stevie that Olivia had gone to 653 00:44:40,235 --> 00:44:44,675 Speaker 1: live on a farm upstate. But she wants to make 654 00:44:44,675 --> 00:44:52,355 Speaker 1: a comeback after the whole RFK Junior disaster. I'm fine 655 00:44:52,355 --> 00:44:55,555 Speaker 1: with it. Maybe she learned something from a mistake everybody 656 00:44:55,595 --> 00:44:58,395 Speaker 1: does eventually after mistake number nine hundred, one hopes one 657 00:44:58,395 --> 00:45:01,155 Speaker 1: would learn from that mistake. Any who, she did what 658 00:45:01,235 --> 00:45:04,435 Speaker 1: I always recommend in that situation, she waited. She waited 659 00:45:04,675 --> 00:45:09,915 Speaker 1: nearly a year plus. Selfishly. This lets me remind people 660 00:45:09,915 --> 00:45:14,195 Speaker 1: that it turned out who knew that when we broke up? 661 00:45:14,235 --> 00:45:19,955 Speaker 1: I was too young for her. However, the reaction in 662 00:45:19,995 --> 00:45:24,395 Speaker 1: writing circles has not been as forgiving two writers on 663 00:45:24,515 --> 00:45:29,675 Speaker 1: Blue Sky. These guys made me gfaw Andrew Dignan or Dingion. 664 00:45:29,795 --> 00:45:34,755 Speaker 1: Maybe Vanity Fair bringing Newsy on to cover the all 665 00:45:34,875 --> 00:45:41,155 Speaker 1: important who's sending first traps southeast to members of Trump's cabinet? 666 00:45:41,315 --> 00:45:46,915 Speaker 1: Beat oh oh, oh, man, I can see this is 667 00:45:46,955 --> 00:45:54,835 Speaker 1: going away soon. And then Colin Dicky uh, obviously an 668 00:45:54,835 --> 00:45:59,075 Speaker 1: expert on this subject. I'm sorry, Vanity Fair. Hiring Newsy 669 00:45:59,195 --> 00:46:02,035 Speaker 1: is such a effing gut punch to all the great 670 00:46:02,155 --> 00:46:06,795 Speaker 1: underemployed journalists out there who don't sext with their sources, which, 671 00:46:06,875 --> 00:46:10,435 Speaker 1: to be fair, is pretty much everyone except Olivia Nowsy. 672 00:46:11,475 --> 00:46:14,475 Speaker 1: Oh oh, and you thought I had complaints about her? 673 00:46:15,035 --> 00:46:20,555 Speaker 1: My goodness, Oh Mark, what if I just cut out 674 00:46:20,595 --> 00:46:24,355 Speaker 1: the pretense and named her West Coast sexting editor Guiducci, 675 00:46:25,555 --> 00:46:30,875 Speaker 1: good luck with being Olivia's boss, Today's other worst person 676 00:46:32,155 --> 00:46:33,235 Speaker 1: in the world. 677 00:46:34,915 --> 00:46:36,075 Speaker 2: Call me anytime. 678 00:46:56,355 --> 00:47:00,515 Speaker 1: Oh so, here we go again. As I mentioned an 679 00:47:00,555 --> 00:47:08,315 Speaker 1: offhand comment or retweet by plastic Woman Congresswoman Nancy mace Of, 680 00:47:09,275 --> 00:47:14,435 Speaker 1: I forgot Stupidville has now joined the list of people 681 00:47:14,475 --> 00:47:17,115 Speaker 1: who have promised to end my career or how I 682 00:47:17,115 --> 00:47:21,035 Speaker 1: should know that if you criticize Charlie Kirk, sat Charlie 683 00:47:21,035 --> 00:47:24,675 Speaker 1: of Kirk, your career is over. All I can say 684 00:47:24,795 --> 00:47:29,835 Speaker 1: is madam, take a number. We'll call you when we 685 00:47:29,915 --> 00:47:33,595 Speaker 1: are ready. I'm still dealing with the other three or 686 00:47:33,635 --> 00:47:35,955 Speaker 1: four dozen people who have told me in the last 687 00:47:35,995 --> 00:47:41,275 Speaker 1: forty one years that my career is now over. To 688 00:47:41,315 --> 00:47:43,835 Speaker 1: our number one story on the countdown, and good evening, 689 00:47:43,875 --> 00:47:47,635 Speaker 1: and welcome to the end of our careers, or more 690 00:47:47,675 --> 00:47:51,755 Speaker 1: particularly the end of my career. No, I'm not retiring. 691 00:47:51,795 --> 00:47:54,915 Speaker 1: I'm just quoting myself from nineteen ninety three in the 692 00:47:54,995 --> 00:47:59,675 Speaker 1: launch of ESPN two and the subject of career ending announcements. 693 00:48:00,315 --> 00:48:04,395 Speaker 1: Career ending announcements. Recently, a colleague of mine told me 694 00:48:04,435 --> 00:48:07,315 Speaker 1: he was done, and I had to go through all 695 00:48:07,435 --> 00:48:11,555 Speaker 1: of the times I have been told I was done. 696 00:48:11,635 --> 00:48:15,515 Speaker 1: The first one was in nineteen eighty four. This would 697 00:48:15,555 --> 00:48:17,835 Speaker 1: be in a previous century that I know. To a 698 00:48:17,875 --> 00:48:20,715 Speaker 1: lot of younger listeners, seems like it might as well 699 00:48:20,755 --> 00:48:23,355 Speaker 1: be eighteen eighty four. I have told before the story 700 00:48:23,395 --> 00:48:26,955 Speaker 1: of my limited career in Boston, for which I waited 701 00:48:26,995 --> 00:48:29,715 Speaker 1: about a year to start and lasted about half as 702 00:48:29,795 --> 00:48:32,955 Speaker 1: long because I went to work at the wrong place, 703 00:48:33,075 --> 00:48:36,635 Speaker 1: in the wrong city, outside in the wrong suburb of Boston, 704 00:48:36,915 --> 00:48:40,755 Speaker 1: with the wrong boss, where they said, don't make any jokes, 705 00:48:40,755 --> 00:48:42,395 Speaker 1: and I said, what did you hire me for? And 706 00:48:42,435 --> 00:48:45,275 Speaker 1: I left very very quickly, and then they tried to 707 00:48:45,315 --> 00:48:48,515 Speaker 1: fire me while I was filling out the terms of 708 00:48:48,515 --> 00:48:51,115 Speaker 1: my contract and staying there until they could get a replacement. 709 00:48:51,155 --> 00:48:53,555 Speaker 1: And the whole thing went up in flames. And the 710 00:48:53,595 --> 00:48:56,595 Speaker 1: result of this was that the news director of the 711 00:48:56,635 --> 00:49:00,155 Speaker 1: station Channel five in Boston, a man who actually answered 712 00:49:00,155 --> 00:49:04,235 Speaker 1: to the name Philip Scribner Balboni, went to the Boston 713 00:49:04,275 --> 00:49:07,955 Speaker 1: Globe TV sportswriter when they had such things as TV sportswriters, 714 00:49:08,355 --> 00:49:10,955 Speaker 1: and said, oh, it was such a shame about Keith. 715 00:49:10,995 --> 00:49:14,435 Speaker 1: He was potentially such a major talent. I will not 716 00:49:14,555 --> 00:49:18,075 Speaker 1: deny that the use of that phrase did inspire me 717 00:49:18,275 --> 00:49:21,475 Speaker 1: to some degree to get cracking on my career. On 718 00:49:21,515 --> 00:49:23,995 Speaker 1: the other hand, I didn't work for nearly a year later, 719 00:49:24,035 --> 00:49:26,315 Speaker 1: as I was taking care of some family business back 720 00:49:26,355 --> 00:49:28,835 Speaker 1: home and sort of put everything about my own interest 721 00:49:28,915 --> 00:49:32,715 Speaker 1: on the shelf. Off the record, the general manager of 722 00:49:32,755 --> 00:49:35,515 Speaker 1: the station I had worked for, a man named James Coppersmith, 723 00:49:35,755 --> 00:49:38,595 Speaker 1: said to my agent something that made Balbony's statement look 724 00:49:38,675 --> 00:49:42,755 Speaker 1: like a compliment. Coppersmith said, he will never again work 725 00:49:42,795 --> 00:49:47,275 Speaker 1: in our business. That got me motivated. I believe I 726 00:49:47,315 --> 00:49:51,355 Speaker 1: read recently that Coppersmith died. In any event, I worked 727 00:49:51,355 --> 00:49:55,115 Speaker 1: again in his business. The punchline to this one, and 728 00:49:55,155 --> 00:49:58,715 Speaker 1: they all have punchlines, is that at some point around 729 00:49:58,835 --> 00:50:03,195 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, I got an email at MSNBC 730 00:50:03,835 --> 00:50:08,075 Speaker 1: and the return of was Philip Scribner Balboni, and there 731 00:50:08,155 --> 00:50:10,955 Speaker 1: was a great email from my old brief news director 732 00:50:10,995 --> 00:50:14,075 Speaker 1: Boston Channel five in Boston, who explained that I had 733 00:50:14,075 --> 00:50:16,795 Speaker 1: been potentially such a major talent and was quoted on 734 00:50:16,835 --> 00:50:19,315 Speaker 1: the record as saying that. And now he was saying 735 00:50:19,315 --> 00:50:22,155 Speaker 1: how he watched Countdown every night and was so proud 736 00:50:22,555 --> 00:50:25,035 Speaker 1: to have been in there at the start of my career. 737 00:50:25,515 --> 00:50:29,475 Speaker 1: Not a word about the other part, about the oh, 738 00:50:29,515 --> 00:50:32,595 Speaker 1: potentially such a major talent. I guess he meant it 739 00:50:32,595 --> 00:50:36,915 Speaker 1: in the past future, perfect sense of the I don't know, 740 00:50:36,995 --> 00:50:40,475 Speaker 1: my grammar education is not what it should be. But 741 00:50:40,595 --> 00:50:42,595 Speaker 1: he managed to wriggle out of it. Never made any 742 00:50:42,635 --> 00:50:46,435 Speaker 1: reference to it. And the one thing about surviving repeated 743 00:50:46,475 --> 00:50:51,155 Speaker 1: announcements that your career is over is to never really 744 00:50:51,155 --> 00:50:53,715 Speaker 1: go back and criticize the people who were wrong about it, 745 00:50:53,795 --> 00:50:57,275 Speaker 1: because they know they were wrong, and your success is 746 00:50:57,395 --> 00:51:00,595 Speaker 1: the best answer. Nevertheless, this all came up, and I 747 00:51:00,635 --> 00:51:03,475 Speaker 1: thought i'd retell it to you because I had to 748 00:51:03,515 --> 00:51:05,875 Speaker 1: retell it to a friend who recently told me his 749 00:51:05,955 --> 00:51:08,635 Speaker 1: career was over. But as I said, that was just 750 00:51:08,715 --> 00:51:11,115 Speaker 1: the first time that had ever happened in a fully 751 00:51:11,155 --> 00:51:14,195 Speaker 1: professional setting. In two thousand and one, and I was 752 00:51:14,395 --> 00:51:17,835 Speaker 1: just reading this, I guess about a year ago. I 753 00:51:17,955 --> 00:51:21,675 Speaker 1: came across it somewhere online. I was reading it for 754 00:51:21,915 --> 00:51:24,475 Speaker 1: a punchline in and of itself. It was a piece 755 00:51:24,595 --> 00:51:28,155 Speaker 1: in Sports illustrated by a man named Chris Ballard, I believe, 756 00:51:28,715 --> 00:51:31,555 Speaker 1: and Chris Baward wrote an article about my being fired 757 00:51:31,595 --> 00:51:35,635 Speaker 1: by Fox Sports, which he wrote as I had resigned 758 00:51:35,675 --> 00:51:38,715 Speaker 1: from Fox Sports, and went on to explain that I 759 00:51:38,755 --> 00:51:42,195 Speaker 1: did not respond as Sports Illustrated's request by emails and 760 00:51:42,315 --> 00:51:45,115 Speaker 1: phones for comment. I never received any of them because 761 00:51:45,155 --> 00:51:47,755 Speaker 1: it never occurred to him that when they fired me 762 00:51:48,195 --> 00:51:51,395 Speaker 1: and told everybody I had resigned, they cut off my 763 00:51:51,475 --> 00:51:55,035 Speaker 1: access to my email and my phone, and they said 764 00:51:55,035 --> 00:51:57,635 Speaker 1: to him when he wanted to talk to me, oh, 765 00:51:57,155 --> 00:51:59,235 Speaker 1: just send him an email. He'll get back to you. 766 00:51:59,315 --> 00:52:01,475 Speaker 1: And I didn't, and thus he made me look like 767 00:52:01,515 --> 00:52:04,955 Speaker 1: a jerk. In any event, The article explained in two 768 00:52:04,955 --> 00:52:08,195 Speaker 1: thousand and one that having gone through ESPN and now 769 00:52:08,475 --> 00:52:13,875 Speaker 1: ESPN's sort of mini me rival, Fox Sports News, that 770 00:52:13,915 --> 00:52:15,835 Speaker 1: there was nothing left for me to do in the business. 771 00:52:15,955 --> 00:52:18,755 Speaker 1: I had tried news briefly in nineteen ninety seven and 772 00:52:18,875 --> 00:52:22,195 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. Clearly my career in both fields was over. 773 00:52:22,515 --> 00:52:25,355 Speaker 1: I could not possibly work again in television, in news 774 00:52:25,515 --> 00:52:29,355 Speaker 1: or in sports. We're now coming up next year if 775 00:52:29,395 --> 00:52:32,755 Speaker 1: I get to it. Well, it's been twenty three, twenty 776 00:52:32,795 --> 00:52:37,795 Speaker 1: four year. Okay. I recently saw this article and was 777 00:52:37,835 --> 00:52:41,675 Speaker 1: inspired to look for it online because Chris Ballard was 778 00:52:41,835 --> 00:52:48,275 Speaker 1: retiring from Sports Illustrated and I'm still here one question 779 00:52:48,315 --> 00:52:50,475 Speaker 1: that came up as I was retelling the story of 780 00:52:50,515 --> 00:52:53,395 Speaker 1: my various career ending moments that did not in fact 781 00:52:53,515 --> 00:52:56,875 Speaker 1: end my career from my friend who's very worried about this, 782 00:52:57,875 --> 00:53:00,715 Speaker 1: was how I managed not to have my career. And 783 00:53:01,195 --> 00:53:07,115 Speaker 1: when Ballard's premise was not completely wrong, he was certainly 784 00:53:07,115 --> 00:53:10,315 Speaker 1: looking at what he thought happened in television. He was 785 00:53:10,355 --> 00:53:13,595 Speaker 1: not the TV sports writer for Sports Illustrated for very long. 786 00:53:13,635 --> 00:53:16,275 Speaker 1: It was not a natural subject for him. Most people 787 00:53:16,315 --> 00:53:20,035 Speaker 1: who did this job thought that it involved simply watching 788 00:53:20,075 --> 00:53:22,515 Speaker 1: sports on TV and then writing what they thought as 789 00:53:22,555 --> 00:53:26,195 Speaker 1: opposed to understanding an industry or its complexities, or its 790 00:53:26,235 --> 00:53:31,715 Speaker 1: parameters or its sort of weird voodoo customs. In any event, 791 00:53:32,275 --> 00:53:35,195 Speaker 1: I said, well, look, it's not very difficult to survive 792 00:53:35,275 --> 00:53:38,315 Speaker 1: these things. You just have to acknowledge that perhaps your 793 00:53:38,435 --> 00:53:42,315 Speaker 1: next job, after some sort of cataclysmic departure from an 794 00:53:42,555 --> 00:53:45,755 Speaker 1: ESPN or a Fox Sports or an MSNBC or wherever else, 795 00:53:46,195 --> 00:53:48,915 Speaker 1: perhaps it's not going to pay you quite as much 796 00:53:48,995 --> 00:53:53,035 Speaker 1: as the last one did. And so, when my agent 797 00:53:53,075 --> 00:53:55,075 Speaker 1: and I began to look around for more work in 798 00:53:55,115 --> 00:53:57,115 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, and I might add that after 799 00:53:57,155 --> 00:53:59,315 Speaker 1: Fox fired me, they had to pay me for another 800 00:53:59,355 --> 00:54:01,715 Speaker 1: eight months at one hundred thousand dollars a year. And 801 00:54:01,835 --> 00:54:05,595 Speaker 1: if you can't survive on a job requires you to 802 00:54:05,715 --> 00:54:08,515 Speaker 1: do nothing for eight months and pays you eight hundred 803 00:54:08,555 --> 00:54:11,795 Speaker 1: thousand dollars that you can salt away. If you can't 804 00:54:11,835 --> 00:54:14,715 Speaker 1: survive on that and enjoy your life while you're doing it, 805 00:54:15,115 --> 00:54:19,875 Speaker 1: you're doing things wrong. In any event, what I said 806 00:54:19,995 --> 00:54:22,075 Speaker 1: was just the next job. Just take a job that 807 00:54:22,595 --> 00:54:24,595 Speaker 1: allows you to do what you can do and do 808 00:54:24,675 --> 00:54:27,955 Speaker 1: it well, and you will succeed in it. You have 809 00:54:28,115 --> 00:54:30,835 Speaker 1: talent a lot of other people don't. You will be 810 00:54:31,195 --> 00:54:33,795 Speaker 1: low costs, so they're much more likely to overlook anything 811 00:54:33,795 --> 00:54:36,995 Speaker 1: that happened in the past, and most importantly, if it 812 00:54:37,075 --> 00:54:39,315 Speaker 1: is successful, you can then hold them up on the 813 00:54:39,315 --> 00:54:43,555 Speaker 1: second contract negotiation. So I went first to CNN after 814 00:54:43,595 --> 00:54:46,675 Speaker 1: the Fox Sports experience started to work for them for 815 00:54:47,075 --> 00:54:50,035 Speaker 1: not a lot of money, and although they did not 816 00:54:50,195 --> 00:54:53,075 Speaker 1: ultimately exercise this, they signed me to a contract to 817 00:54:53,115 --> 00:54:55,915 Speaker 1: do the eight PM show on CNN for a certain 818 00:54:55,995 --> 00:54:58,195 Speaker 1: large amount of money, and there were two finalists they 819 00:54:58,235 --> 00:55:00,395 Speaker 1: wanted us lined up in advance, and they made the 820 00:55:00,395 --> 00:55:04,475 Speaker 1: clever decision to choose Connie Chung instead of me, but 821 00:55:05,115 --> 00:55:08,875 Speaker 1: they had sort of reauthorized me. They had re established me. 822 00:55:08,995 --> 00:55:11,555 Speaker 1: By it was well known within the industry that I 823 00:55:11,715 --> 00:55:13,795 Speaker 1: was the runner up for the job at eight o'clock, 824 00:55:14,115 --> 00:55:17,075 Speaker 1: and within six months of them saying, nah, we think 825 00:55:17,155 --> 00:55:19,595 Speaker 1: Connie's the right person to lead us into the future here, 826 00:55:19,875 --> 00:55:22,435 Speaker 1: within six months of that, I was doing the eight 827 00:55:22,475 --> 00:55:26,395 Speaker 1: o'clock show on MSNBC for in fact, twice what the 828 00:55:26,435 --> 00:55:29,315 Speaker 1: agreement had been at CNN, And within three years they'd 829 00:55:29,355 --> 00:55:31,155 Speaker 1: signed me to a new deal that was worth three 830 00:55:31,195 --> 00:55:33,675 Speaker 1: times that more than I had ever made in my life. 831 00:55:33,995 --> 00:55:36,755 Speaker 1: So the key thing to it is to be flexible financially. 832 00:55:37,315 --> 00:55:39,715 Speaker 1: You sock them for the money while you're successful. And 833 00:55:39,755 --> 00:55:43,235 Speaker 1: then by the way, once again, if you can't succeed 834 00:55:43,355 --> 00:55:46,475 Speaker 1: in the business, if you can't succeed in life, when 835 00:55:46,555 --> 00:55:52,155 Speaker 1: you have received in one year anything north of three 836 00:55:52,195 --> 00:55:55,315 Speaker 1: million dollars in one year, four million dollars, maybe I 837 00:55:55,355 --> 00:55:58,195 Speaker 1: forget what the actual financial floor is. But if you've 838 00:55:58,235 --> 00:56:01,155 Speaker 1: made that much money in one year and can't live 839 00:56:01,475 --> 00:56:06,035 Speaker 1: basically off that and simply in interest from the bank 840 00:56:06,275 --> 00:56:08,715 Speaker 1: that that will provide you, if you can't do that, 841 00:56:10,235 --> 00:56:13,635 Speaker 1: you must have some sort of addiction to drugs, because 842 00:56:13,955 --> 00:56:17,715 Speaker 1: guess what, you can go a long way still. I mean, yeah, 843 00:56:17,835 --> 00:56:20,835 Speaker 1: it's true, four million dollars is what it used to be, 844 00:56:20,915 --> 00:56:23,715 Speaker 1: but guess what it is now. It's still really good. 845 00:56:24,835 --> 00:56:27,115 Speaker 1: I never failed to see one of these articles in 846 00:56:27,155 --> 00:56:30,275 Speaker 1: which somebody who's lost a job paying in you know, 847 00:56:30,355 --> 00:56:33,275 Speaker 1: the tens of millions of dollars, and I always finished. 848 00:56:33,275 --> 00:56:37,035 Speaker 1: Now It's like, yes, he's finished. Now he can sit 849 00:56:37,075 --> 00:56:39,635 Speaker 1: on a beach, he can hire somebody to do his 850 00:56:39,715 --> 00:56:42,595 Speaker 1: exercise for him. He can sit on a beach and 851 00:56:43,955 --> 00:56:46,435 Speaker 1: eat the money, and it won't make a difference. He 852 00:56:46,475 --> 00:56:49,595 Speaker 1: doesn't have to do it again in any event. So 853 00:56:49,915 --> 00:56:53,355 Speaker 1: the pattern here that I have described already has continued 854 00:56:53,395 --> 00:56:56,075 Speaker 1: in subsequent years, even after I came back from the 855 00:56:56,115 --> 00:56:59,035 Speaker 1: dead after my experience in Boston, where I was dubbed 856 00:56:59,115 --> 00:57:02,875 Speaker 1: the dark prints of TV Sports and was winning awards 857 00:57:02,875 --> 00:57:06,115 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles the next year. Although, to be fair, 858 00:57:06,475 --> 00:57:08,955 Speaker 1: after that quote in nineteen eighty four about how I 859 00:57:08,995 --> 00:57:11,755 Speaker 1: was potentially a great talent, I did get down to 860 00:57:11,795 --> 00:57:14,755 Speaker 1: about my last one hundred dollars in the bank, and 861 00:57:14,875 --> 00:57:18,955 Speaker 1: actually I actually had to borrow money from my dear 862 00:57:19,035 --> 00:57:22,235 Speaker 1: sister to get on the bus to take me to 863 00:57:22,355 --> 00:57:25,195 Speaker 1: the airport in New York so I could take the 864 00:57:25,235 --> 00:57:28,195 Speaker 1: flight to Los Angeles to start my job there. That's 865 00:57:28,235 --> 00:57:30,795 Speaker 1: how close I cut it. Another week and I would 866 00:57:30,795 --> 00:57:33,795 Speaker 1: have been borrowing money for food. That's where I was. 867 00:57:34,115 --> 00:57:36,435 Speaker 1: But you have to be willing to walk that tight 868 00:57:36,515 --> 00:57:39,435 Speaker 1: rope to pull this off in any event. So that 869 00:57:39,595 --> 00:57:42,315 Speaker 1: was Boston became the Los Angeles job, and the Los 870 00:57:42,355 --> 00:57:44,715 Speaker 1: Angeles job. When they eliminated that, it's like, well, his 871 00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:48,275 Speaker 1: career is over now. The next job was ESPN. ESPN 872 00:57:48,355 --> 00:57:51,395 Speaker 1: led to NBC. When that didn't work out and I 873 00:57:51,515 --> 00:57:53,475 Speaker 1: pushed to get out of there, they sold me to 874 00:57:53,515 --> 00:57:55,395 Speaker 1: Fox for a million dollars and they paid me a 875 00:57:55,395 --> 00:57:57,035 Speaker 1: lot of money and continued to pay me a lot 876 00:57:57,075 --> 00:57:58,995 Speaker 1: of money even after they stopped putting me on TV. 877 00:58:00,155 --> 00:58:02,675 Speaker 1: And that led to a doldrum period where I got 878 00:58:02,675 --> 00:58:05,155 Speaker 1: to read about the guy who's now retired from Sports 879 00:58:05,195 --> 00:58:08,835 Speaker 1: Illustrated explaining what network will sign him now, what team 880 00:58:08,915 --> 00:58:12,315 Speaker 1: will sign him now? Whither Keith? This is two thousand 881 00:58:12,355 --> 00:58:15,115 Speaker 1: and one. I was forty two years old. It's like 882 00:58:15,155 --> 00:58:18,475 Speaker 1: I get nostalgic reading that, going, yeah, you were forty 883 00:58:18,515 --> 00:58:20,955 Speaker 1: two years old. They fired you at that point people 884 00:58:20,955 --> 00:58:23,835 Speaker 1: thought your career was over. Yeah, but I was forty two. 885 00:58:24,915 --> 00:58:29,315 Speaker 1: My hair was dark most places in any event, So 886 00:58:29,555 --> 00:58:32,875 Speaker 1: that led into the MSNBC job, and the MSNBC job, 887 00:58:33,235 --> 00:58:36,395 Speaker 1: as sort of messy as that ended, the second one, 888 00:58:36,435 --> 00:58:40,515 Speaker 1: anyway led to the Current TV job, and as disastrous 889 00:58:40,555 --> 00:58:43,235 Speaker 1: as that was, since it was kind of a confidence trick, 890 00:58:44,155 --> 00:58:46,835 Speaker 1: there was a day where between the money I got 891 00:58:46,875 --> 00:58:49,115 Speaker 1: for leaving NBC and the money I got for joining 892 00:58:49,115 --> 00:58:51,875 Speaker 1: Current TV, I made sixty eight million dollars in one day. 893 00:58:52,515 --> 00:58:54,635 Speaker 1: I had to sew a lot of people afterwards to 894 00:58:54,675 --> 00:58:57,035 Speaker 1: get all of it, but I got just about all 895 00:58:57,075 --> 00:59:00,635 Speaker 1: of it. In any event, I'm now boasting back to 896 00:59:00,675 --> 00:59:03,475 Speaker 1: the point of this whole story. An old friend of 897 00:59:03,515 --> 00:59:05,675 Speaker 1: mine came in when I was doing the videos for 898 00:59:05,835 --> 00:59:09,355 Speaker 1: GQ The Closer and The Resistance in twenty sixteen. In 899 00:59:09,395 --> 00:59:12,475 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, came in to watch me do this and 900 00:59:12,555 --> 00:59:16,835 Speaker 1: started to ask very very graciously and very gently about, well, 901 00:59:16,875 --> 00:59:19,595 Speaker 1: isn't this something of a come down for you from 902 00:59:19,755 --> 00:59:23,435 Speaker 1: the MSNBC experience where you had a staff, And I said, well, 903 00:59:23,435 --> 00:59:28,635 Speaker 1: first off, the MSNBC experience consisted of two cameramen and 904 00:59:28,715 --> 00:59:32,755 Speaker 1: a floor director and me and sometimes a guest in 905 00:59:32,795 --> 00:59:37,435 Speaker 1: a studio. The staff, whereas they were all certainly dedicated 906 00:59:37,435 --> 00:59:40,435 Speaker 1: to the project, consisted of basically a core of six 907 00:59:40,555 --> 00:59:44,035 Speaker 1: or seven people. It never really felt like a big deal. 908 00:59:44,155 --> 00:59:46,915 Speaker 1: I know it had more influence than I was ever 909 00:59:47,035 --> 00:59:51,395 Speaker 1: led to understand, but it wasn't like, oh, well, you 910 00:59:51,435 --> 00:59:53,875 Speaker 1: know those movies that you did with Richard Burton and 911 00:59:53,875 --> 00:59:57,115 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor and Tom Cruise, and now you're just sitting 912 00:59:57,115 --> 01:00:00,235 Speaker 1: at home with a camera. It didn't have that feel 913 01:00:00,275 --> 01:00:02,715 Speaker 1: in the slightest. And I said to him, did you 914 01:00:02,755 --> 01:00:05,395 Speaker 1: see the thing from CBS News the other day? And 915 01:00:05,395 --> 01:00:07,595 Speaker 1: he went, what thing from CBS News? I said, don't 916 01:00:07,635 --> 01:00:09,675 Speaker 1: you have the Google at the New York Times? And 917 01:00:09,715 --> 01:00:15,115 Speaker 1: he said yes. I said, Google, Social Flow, Facebook, and 918 01:00:15,195 --> 01:00:18,235 Speaker 1: he did on his phone and he read this political 919 01:00:18,235 --> 01:00:20,875 Speaker 1: pundit Keith Alderman found a way to channel concerns about 920 01:00:20,915 --> 01:00:24,035 Speaker 1: mister Trump. This is July twenty seventeen, started hosting a 921 01:00:24,075 --> 01:00:27,315 Speaker 1: series of political commentary and special interviews titled The Resistance 922 01:00:27,355 --> 01:00:30,515 Speaker 1: with Keith Olderman, with the first episode featured on GQ 923 01:00:30,715 --> 01:00:35,875 Speaker 1: on November sixteenth, twenty sixteen, reaching fifty four million people 924 01:00:36,155 --> 01:00:40,395 Speaker 1: equivalent to one in six Americans, And I said, look, 925 01:00:40,995 --> 01:00:44,315 Speaker 1: I understand that if you measure things solely by the 926 01:00:44,355 --> 01:00:47,315 Speaker 1: idea that I'm on your TV every night, Well, yeah, 927 01:00:47,395 --> 01:00:50,075 Speaker 1: that the doing a video and coming into a studio 928 01:00:50,155 --> 01:00:52,475 Speaker 1: that isn't really designed for TV and there's an echo 929 01:00:52,555 --> 01:00:54,675 Speaker 1: in it might seem like the end of my career. 930 01:00:54,835 --> 01:00:59,035 Speaker 1: Fifty four million people saw that video and interacted with 931 01:00:59,115 --> 01:01:02,315 Speaker 1: it in some kind. They either forwarded it, or watched it, 932 01:01:02,635 --> 01:01:05,475 Speaker 1: or put a comment on it, or sometimes all three. 933 01:01:05,635 --> 01:01:10,435 Speaker 1: That was, in fact the number one political video or 934 01:01:10,515 --> 01:01:13,955 Speaker 1: story on Facebook in the period of time after Donald 935 01:01:13,995 --> 01:01:17,515 Speaker 1: Trump's election. I think that's something of a success. And 936 01:01:17,555 --> 01:01:19,835 Speaker 1: I said, by this point, I don't need the damn money. 937 01:01:19,955 --> 01:01:22,595 Speaker 1: The money I'm making from doing this is going to 938 01:01:22,675 --> 01:01:26,595 Speaker 1: dog charities. Okay, So we could go on at length 939 01:01:26,635 --> 01:01:29,555 Speaker 1: about other small versions of that. I once went back 940 01:01:29,595 --> 01:01:31,395 Speaker 1: and forth with this guy who now is one of 941 01:01:31,395 --> 01:01:34,875 Speaker 1: the people at Puck News who insisted that I had 942 01:01:34,915 --> 01:01:38,915 Speaker 1: not been negotiating with the then chairman of NBC Jeff Schell, 943 01:01:39,115 --> 01:01:43,195 Speaker 1: about returning to MSNBC in twenty nineteen twenty and twenty one, 944 01:01:43,515 --> 01:01:47,035 Speaker 1: because NBC News had insisted it wasn't true. And I said, 945 01:01:47,075 --> 01:01:49,875 Speaker 1: who told you that, and they said a spokesman. And 946 01:01:49,915 --> 01:01:52,155 Speaker 1: I said to this guy, his name was Dylan Byers, 947 01:01:52,595 --> 01:01:54,875 Speaker 1: I said, well, who was the spokesman. Well, it's just 948 01:01:55,115 --> 01:01:56,915 Speaker 1: supposed to be a spokesman, I said. So. They wouldn't 949 01:01:56,915 --> 01:01:59,235 Speaker 1: even put their own name on it, not even a 950 01:01:59,355 --> 01:02:03,235 Speaker 1: made up name Jim Jones, NBC News spokesman, which would 951 01:02:03,235 --> 01:02:06,195 Speaker 1: have been, by the way, appropriate name for a series 952 01:02:06,235 --> 01:02:09,835 Speaker 1: of NBC News spokespeople. They didn't even do that. And 953 01:02:09,875 --> 01:02:12,355 Speaker 1: he said no. They were insistent, there's never been any 954 01:02:12,395 --> 01:02:14,875 Speaker 1: contact between you and Jeff Shell. And I went hang on, 955 01:02:15,515 --> 01:02:18,555 Speaker 1: and I called up from my phone twenty three emails 956 01:02:18,555 --> 01:02:22,115 Speaker 1: and texts from Jeff Shell. I photo shot at them, 957 01:02:22,155 --> 01:02:24,355 Speaker 1: I screen shotted them and gave him to the guy. 958 01:02:24,755 --> 01:02:27,395 Speaker 1: And I don't think this guy Buyers has recovered since 959 01:02:27,955 --> 01:02:32,395 Speaker 1: his worldview was totally destroyed. He was writing a story 960 01:02:32,435 --> 01:02:35,235 Speaker 1: about how I had deteriorated to the point where I 961 01:02:35,315 --> 01:02:39,035 Speaker 1: was hallucinating about being in contact with Jeff Shell from 962 01:02:39,155 --> 01:02:43,155 Speaker 1: NBC News or from NBC about returning to NBC News 963 01:02:43,235 --> 01:02:46,275 Speaker 1: and MSNBC when we were deep into negotiations about it, 964 01:02:46,475 --> 01:02:49,235 Speaker 1: and we're delayed only by the pandemic. And as I 965 01:02:49,315 --> 01:02:52,915 Speaker 1: pointed out here before the vetos of certain people working 966 01:02:52,955 --> 01:02:55,755 Speaker 1: on the air at MSNBC, most of whose careers I started. 967 01:02:55,915 --> 01:02:59,675 Speaker 1: But that's another story which I've already discussed. His whole 968 01:02:59,755 --> 01:03:03,915 Speaker 1: worldview was shattered by this because should do be He 969 01:03:04,035 --> 01:03:08,675 Speaker 1: could not comprehend that an NBC News spokesperson would lie 970 01:03:08,755 --> 01:03:11,195 Speaker 1: to him, And he really said this. He said, I 971 01:03:11,235 --> 01:03:13,795 Speaker 1: don't understand why would they lie to me? And I said, 972 01:03:13,835 --> 01:03:15,995 Speaker 1: you don't have to understand that the idea that they 973 01:03:16,035 --> 01:03:18,195 Speaker 1: would not put their own name on this statement might 974 01:03:18,235 --> 01:03:21,275 Speaker 1: have suggested to you that they were lying to you. Oh, 975 01:03:21,515 --> 01:03:23,515 Speaker 1: I'll keep that in mind. Well, he didn't keep that 976 01:03:23,555 --> 01:03:25,955 Speaker 1: in mind. But that's again another story about Dylan Byers, 977 01:03:25,955 --> 01:03:31,315 Speaker 1: and we'll get to him somedayday too, somewhere soon. Somebody 978 01:03:31,435 --> 01:03:34,635 Speaker 1: asked towards the end of July twenty twenty four about 979 01:03:34,675 --> 01:03:37,675 Speaker 1: my recent comeback and how I'd just gotten back into 980 01:03:37,715 --> 01:03:41,715 Speaker 1: political commentary now with the new podcast, and I said, 981 01:03:42,235 --> 01:03:47,075 Speaker 1: it's two years old. On August first, it was approaching 982 01:03:47,155 --> 01:03:52,235 Speaker 1: five hundred episodes. We're doing like a million listens a week, 983 01:03:52,355 --> 01:03:58,275 Speaker 1: a million audience participants a week. I mean, it's challenging 984 01:03:58,355 --> 01:04:02,395 Speaker 1: certain hours on CNN for total audience. Good God, what 985 01:04:02,435 --> 01:04:06,475 Speaker 1: do you mean recent comeback? But this is, as I said, 986 01:04:06,555 --> 01:04:09,075 Speaker 1: if I had ten million dollars for every time somebody 987 01:04:09,075 --> 01:04:15,395 Speaker 1: told me my career was over, A career is sort 988 01:04:15,435 --> 01:04:19,275 Speaker 1: of over because I'm now of advanced years and now 989 01:04:19,355 --> 01:04:23,315 Speaker 1: I've done something that I really didn't understand until the 990 01:04:23,395 --> 01:04:27,715 Speaker 1: year twenty eleven, until I left MSNBC to go to 991 01:04:27,795 --> 01:04:31,475 Speaker 1: Current TV, and there was built into this transfer a 992 01:04:31,555 --> 01:04:34,115 Speaker 1: three month period of time where I could not work 993 01:04:34,195 --> 01:04:38,115 Speaker 1: anywhere in television. I had not had such a period 994 01:04:38,115 --> 01:04:41,395 Speaker 1: of time except for the aforementioned period when I was 995 01:04:41,435 --> 01:04:44,075 Speaker 1: taken care of family members who were in trouble in 996 01:04:44,155 --> 01:04:47,355 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five after the Boston experience, I hadn't had 997 01:04:47,355 --> 01:04:50,155 Speaker 1: such a length of time without being on the air somewhere. 998 01:04:50,435 --> 01:04:52,675 Speaker 1: And in fact, during that period in nineteen eighty five, 999 01:04:52,715 --> 01:04:55,395 Speaker 1: I did a lot of freelance work just to get 1000 01:04:55,395 --> 01:04:58,035 Speaker 1: the cash that I didn't have to borrow from my sister, 1001 01:04:58,075 --> 01:05:01,555 Speaker 1: who was, by the way, seventeen years old at the time. Yeah, Jen, 1002 01:05:01,795 --> 01:05:06,035 Speaker 1: have you got a twenty Yeah, I need to go 1003 01:05:06,035 --> 01:05:09,155 Speaker 1: buy a cigar. In any event, the point of this 1004 01:05:09,435 --> 01:05:12,515 Speaker 1: was until twenty eleven, i'd really not had a day 1005 01:05:12,675 --> 01:05:16,395 Speaker 1: or at least a week without deadlines media deadlines. You 1006 01:05:16,475 --> 01:05:18,355 Speaker 1: have to have this written by eight o'clock because the 1007 01:05:18,355 --> 01:05:20,995 Speaker 1: show is starting with or without you. I hadn't had 1008 01:05:20,995 --> 01:05:23,675 Speaker 1: a day or a week without those since I was 1009 01:05:23,715 --> 01:05:27,275 Speaker 1: sixteen years old. I was to my shock. I found 1010 01:05:27,355 --> 01:05:30,435 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed not having those deadlines. And when we 1011 01:05:30,475 --> 01:05:32,635 Speaker 1: went back on the air in Current TV in June 1012 01:05:32,675 --> 01:05:36,995 Speaker 1: of twenty eleven, I was kind of disappointed, not because 1013 01:05:37,075 --> 01:05:39,875 Speaker 1: the studio was actually not a studio but more like 1014 01:05:39,915 --> 01:05:43,035 Speaker 1: a you know, a portal to Hell and not that 1015 01:05:43,195 --> 01:05:45,395 Speaker 1: part of it, which was disappointing, but not as much 1016 01:05:45,435 --> 01:05:49,475 Speaker 1: as I really enjoyed, you know, not shaving every weekday 1017 01:05:49,515 --> 01:05:54,035 Speaker 1: and not having to write, you know, ten thousand words 1018 01:05:54,075 --> 01:05:58,035 Speaker 1: a day, and not having to read the twelve seconds 1019 01:05:58,035 --> 01:06:01,995 Speaker 1: of script inside the twelve second window before the sound hit, 1020 01:06:02,715 --> 01:06:04,835 Speaker 1: and just the number of deadlines I suddenly did and 1021 01:06:04,835 --> 01:06:07,675 Speaker 1: a half. So since twenty eleven, I decided to cut 1022 01:06:07,715 --> 01:06:11,115 Speaker 1: back to four days work a week generally speaking, that's 1023 01:06:11,195 --> 01:06:15,955 Speaker 1: my concession to my mid sixties. And as I was 1024 01:06:15,995 --> 01:06:19,635 Speaker 1: preparing this to tell you this story, in light of 1025 01:06:19,675 --> 01:06:21,795 Speaker 1: the experience I had with my friend who thought his 1026 01:06:21,875 --> 01:06:24,515 Speaker 1: career was over, and I was reciting this, I realized 1027 01:06:24,515 --> 01:06:27,035 Speaker 1: that I had left out in telling him the story, 1028 01:06:27,195 --> 01:06:29,955 Speaker 1: and I have deliberately left it out of the chronological 1029 01:06:30,075 --> 01:06:33,395 Speaker 1: order of these tales of the actual first time I 1030 01:06:33,515 --> 01:06:36,155 Speaker 1: was told my career was over, I had forgotten completely 1031 01:06:36,835 --> 01:06:40,155 Speaker 1: about the day that the sports director what was then 1032 01:06:40,195 --> 01:06:44,515 Speaker 1: a prominent radio station told me that not only would 1033 01:06:44,555 --> 01:06:47,515 Speaker 1: he and the news director there not hire me, even 1034 01:06:47,555 --> 01:06:49,275 Speaker 1: though I had been told I was a candidate for 1035 01:06:49,315 --> 01:06:51,595 Speaker 1: a sports job there, but he told me that I 1036 01:06:51,635 --> 01:06:55,595 Speaker 1: would never get a job in radio or television of 1037 01:06:55,675 --> 01:06:59,915 Speaker 1: any prominence because of my attitude. No one will ever 1038 01:06:59,995 --> 01:07:04,955 Speaker 1: hire you. His name was Ernie Jackson, and I believe 1039 01:07:05,595 --> 01:07:07,995 Speaker 1: he left the town we were in to get a 1040 01:07:08,075 --> 01:07:11,395 Speaker 1: job selling airtime on a radio station in Cincinnati, and 1041 01:07:11,435 --> 01:07:13,235 Speaker 1: after that, I don't know what the hell happened to him. 1042 01:07:13,635 --> 01:07:16,035 Speaker 1: The news director was a guy named Bob Lynch, and 1043 01:07:16,115 --> 01:07:19,435 Speaker 1: he shortly thereafter moved to a job that I think 1044 01:07:19,475 --> 01:07:23,475 Speaker 1: he spent his entire professional career at traffic reporter in 1045 01:07:23,515 --> 01:07:26,795 Speaker 1: a plane above the beautiful city of Rochester, New York 1046 01:07:27,795 --> 01:07:31,435 Speaker 1: the date that mister Jackson, on mister Lynch's behalf told 1047 01:07:31,435 --> 01:07:34,355 Speaker 1: me that my career was over. The first time I 1048 01:07:34,435 --> 01:07:37,875 Speaker 1: was told you will never again work in this business, 1049 01:07:38,355 --> 01:07:40,635 Speaker 1: the first good evening and welcome to the end of 1050 01:07:40,675 --> 01:08:01,275 Speaker 1: my career, was October nineteen seventy seven. I've done all 1051 01:08:01,315 --> 01:08:05,795 Speaker 1: the damage I can do here, and yet thank you 1052 01:08:05,835 --> 01:08:09,075 Speaker 1: for listening. Most of our countdown music was arranged, produced, 1053 01:08:09,115 --> 01:08:11,995 Speaker 1: and performed by Brian Ray and John Phillip Schanel. Our 1054 01:08:12,075 --> 01:08:15,595 Speaker 1: musical directors have countdown. Neither of their careers is over. 1055 01:08:15,995 --> 01:08:19,195 Speaker 1: It was produced by Tko Brothers. Mister Ray on the guitars, 1056 01:08:19,195 --> 01:08:23,515 Speaker 1: bass and drums, mister Chanelle handling, orchestration and keyboards. Our 1057 01:08:23,635 --> 01:08:26,395 Speaker 1: satirical and pithy musical comments are by the best baseball 1058 01:08:26,435 --> 01:08:29,955 Speaker 1: stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust, who's also heard that same 1059 01:08:30,035 --> 01:08:33,595 Speaker 1: message and whose career is also not over. The Olberman 1060 01:08:33,715 --> 01:08:37,155 Speaker 1: theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy 1061 01:08:37,235 --> 01:08:40,875 Speaker 1: of ESPN, Inc. Is the sports music I can't speak 1062 01:08:40,875 --> 01:08:43,595 Speaker 1: to mister Davis. I don't know him personally, but ah, 1063 01:08:43,715 --> 01:08:47,635 Speaker 1: how many times has ESPN been declared dead since nineteen 1064 01:08:47,755 --> 01:08:51,555 Speaker 1: seventy nine and it's still here. Other music arranged and 1065 01:08:51,635 --> 01:08:55,115 Speaker 1: performed by the group No Horns allowed. I don't think 1066 01:08:55,155 --> 01:08:58,115 Speaker 1: they're still in business. Individually, They're all still in business, 1067 01:08:58,115 --> 01:09:00,635 Speaker 1: but I don't think the group performs anymore, so maybe 1068 01:09:00,635 --> 01:09:03,115 Speaker 1: their career is over. My announcer today was my friend 1069 01:09:03,195 --> 01:09:06,795 Speaker 1: Johnny Banks from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. His 1070 01:09:06,835 --> 01:09:11,275 Speaker 1: career ate over everything else was as always my fault. 1071 01:09:12,035 --> 01:09:14,675 Speaker 1: So that's countdown for today. Day two hundred and forty 1072 01:09:14,715 --> 01:09:19,435 Speaker 1: six of America held hostage again, just twenty seven days 1073 01:09:19,755 --> 01:09:23,435 Speaker 1: until the scheduled end of Trump's lame duck lame brained term, 1074 01:09:23,875 --> 01:09:28,035 Speaker 1: unless he is removed sooner by MAGA than Jeffrey Epstein 1075 01:09:28,395 --> 01:09:32,155 Speaker 1: or Tom I put the hoe in home Man, or 1076 01:09:32,195 --> 01:09:36,955 Speaker 1: the pavement on Trump's hand or whatever. The next scheduled 1077 01:09:36,955 --> 01:09:39,995 Speaker 1: countdown is Thursday. Until then, I'm Keith Olberman. Good morning, 1078 01:09:40,115 --> 01:10:08,075 Speaker 1: good afternoon, good night, and good luck. Countdown with Keith 1079 01:10:08,115 --> 01:10:13,155 Speaker 1: Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 1080 01:10:13,315 --> 01:10:17,315 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 1081 01:10:17,355 --> 01:10:18,275 Speaker 1: your podcasts.