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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire Famp. It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Tuesday, July fifteenth. Oh, yeah, Monday happened.

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Speaker 2: It was a day at the home run derby. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to the Big Dumper. Fun fact, Rob, I did

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Speaker 2: not know what that nickname was about. Obviously, I know

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Speaker 2: dumper is your butt, but I did not know that

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Speaker 2: they had nicknamed cal Raley the Big Dumper like that is.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure his parents are thrilled that that's his nickname.

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Speaker 2: What do you can put that on T shirts? But

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Speaker 2: shout out to cal Raley for winning the home run derby.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately I was otherwise occupied and I missed it. But

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Speaker 2: we are recording this late Monday night after cal Raley

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Speaker 2: capture the home run derby. We will do a lot

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Speaker 2: of NFL today, obviously because some stuff happened. And then

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Speaker 2: at the end we just have to address something. I

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Speaker 2: don't really want to get into it, but I think

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Speaker 2: I have to, So we'll address that at the very end.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to start, obviously, the ESPN list

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Speaker 2: of the top quarterbacks according to executives, coaches, and scouts.

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Speaker 2: We'll dive into that, but I did see something that

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Speaker 2: I thought was even a bigger deal than that, as

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Speaker 2: the kids say, a low key bigger deal, And that

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Speaker 2: was Juwan Jennings in the middle of July, about a

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Speaker 2: week before he's got a report to camp. Juwan Jennings,

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Speaker 2: who was nearly the Super Bowl MVP two years ago.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys remember that he threw

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Speaker 2: for a touchdown and then let me see he threw

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Speaker 2: the Chief Super Bowl. Yeah, five catches forty two yards

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Speaker 2: in a touchdown and threw a TV pass. They did lose,

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Speaker 2: but he was in the mix for Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 2: And then last year he really broke out. Remember this

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Speaker 2: is a seventh round pick. Niners love those seventh round picks,

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Speaker 2: and he went from this is his receiving receptions per

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Speaker 2: year as a rookie twenty four. I'm sorry, he was

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Speaker 2: he didn't even play. In his second year, he caught

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Speaker 2: twenty four, then he caught thirty five. Twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: he caught nineteen balls in thirteen games. That was the

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Speaker 2: year they went to the Super Bowl, he had nineteen catches.

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Speaker 2: Last year gets hurt Debo's in and out of lineup.

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Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings had seventy seven catches. His target share rose

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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty three thirty three targets to one hundred

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Speaker 2: seven in the first three years that he played football combined.

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Speaker 2: So Juwan Jennings blew up last year. But I think

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Speaker 2: it's contextual, right Why well, brandan Ike was out of lineup, okay,

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel not one hundred percent in an out of lineup,

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Speaker 2: and Ricky Piersoll of course got shot their early round

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Speaker 2: started and had to miss some time. But Jennings look

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Speaker 2: like a keeper. So what do they do? They move

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Speaker 2: a report says, you know what, I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: hold out or if I don't get a new contract,

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Speaker 2: And at first glance, I'm like, wait a minute, that

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Speaker 2: that's what a jerk move. Why why wouldn't you do

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Speaker 2: this back in March? And he's now realizing that Brandon

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Speaker 2: weekend that Brandon and I you probably will start the

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Speaker 2: that Brandon Ayuku got hit with the lazy tag is

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Speaker 2: not going to be ready to start the season. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: So Juwan Jennings just last year got a new deal

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Speaker 2: Yuke's not ready, Deebo's gone, I gotta get paid. And

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Speaker 2: already twenty eight years old, turn twenty eight this week.

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Speaker 2: He's probably saying, well, shucks, I might as well go

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Speaker 2: Let me squeeze him. And then you look up who

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Speaker 2: his agent is and if your sand friend You're just like,

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Speaker 2: Franz just has got no luck. Remember Deebo Samuel was

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Speaker 2: a hold out a couple of years ago, and then

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Speaker 2: Ayuk was just a disaster dealing with that guy. I'm

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Speaker 2: If you're the forty nine Ers. You just can't do that.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a real crappy spot for the Niners. Rob Yeah,

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Speaker 3: At it this way. For anyone who's not familiar with

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Speaker 3: right now. Brandon Ayuk recovering from a torn acl and

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Speaker 3: And Juwan Jennings, who was unhappy with his current salary.

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Speaker 3: Now to your point, the timing of this is terrible

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Speaker 3: if you're Juwan Jennings, can I give him a round

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Speaker 3: There's only so many times you could hit McCaffrey out

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Speaker 3: So you need that threat on the outside that quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: I was actually targeting Jennings in fantasy this year. I

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Speaker 2: think he could have a good year. I'm not at Ayuk.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a humongous Ayuk fan. Just the attitude like

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Speaker 2: holding out because his quarterback got paid. But Rob, I

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought the big story in this ESPN

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Speaker 2: quarterback list again they pulled quote dozens dozens of GMS.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry not GMS. It was executives, coaches and scouts.

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Speaker 2: Coaches and scouts, dozens of them were polled and they

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Speaker 2: ranked Jalen Hurts ninth among quarterbacks, which I think is

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Speaker 2: And Brock Purdy did not even crack the top ten. Now,

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Speaker 2: Now this is where it gets weird. Rob. A year

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Speaker 2: after his monster rookie year. So flashy new toys get

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Speaker 2: preferential treatment. Jade Daniels had the greatest rookie year ever

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Speaker 2: There's really no firm criteria that I could find out about,

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Speaker 2: little bullshitty when it's preferential to first round picks. Nine

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Speaker 2: the only nine, and Jalen Hurts, who was the MVP

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Speaker 2: of the last football game we saw play He was

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Speaker 2: tremendous in the Super Bowl. The defense was excellent too.

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Speaker 2: He still only comes in at ninth, behind Jared Goff,

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Speaker 2: behind Justin Herbert, who, for what it's worth, is awesome

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Speaker 2: but has zero playoff wins, Matthew Stafford, and then a

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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels like the top four I get. I guess

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Speaker 2: Rob among my beefs are if we're just talking about

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Speaker 2: right now. I don't understand how Jalen Hurts cannot be five,

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Speaker 2: and over the last three years he has been winning

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Speaker 2: had three different offensive coordinators in that stretch. Now, a

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Speaker 2: guy like Jared Goff again, I like him. He lives

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Speaker 2: out here near me in the South Bay. I've seen

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Speaker 2: him and his supermodel girlfriend who's about to have a baby.

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Speaker 2: They got the exact same dog we do. I like

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff everything about the guy. So Rob, you're one.

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Speaker 2: I'm fairly certain Jared Goff had Jeff Fisher as his

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, what a bust. Then he gets McVeigh,

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Speaker 3: maybe we're not comparing Patrick Mahomes from his absolute peak

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Speaker 2: It's weird how so many people get upset that Mahomes

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Speaker 2: All right, listen. I didn't want to talk about this,

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Speaker 2: we got the chip. That's a lock. There's no way

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Speaker 2: that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Lebron is upset and would love to get there

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Speaker 2: with his boys. You know, he's tied with Kyrie and

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Speaker 2: he loves ad. Maybe Lebron would love to get there

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Speaker 2: with those guys. Maybe, but that's not happening. If you

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Speaker 2: want that to happen, you should not have opted in.

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Speaker 2: You should have opted out, and hell you could to

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Speaker 2: just look gone. But there's just no world where this happens.

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Speaker 2: Rob as a Laker fan, though, I am sensing that

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Speaker 2: Laker Nation is reaching that tipping point with Lebron where

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Speaker 2: they're kind of like, I'm over this, We've got Luca.

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Speaker 2: Can we just move on? Are you getting that vibe?

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Speaker 3: I'm one thousand get into that vibe because I'm kind

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Speaker 3: of in that boat right now. Oh and I might

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Speaker 3: be the wrong person to talk to about it because

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Speaker 3: you know, day one listeners of the pod that know

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Speaker 3: that I've run hot and cold with the Lebron James

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Speaker 3: experience here in LA because on one hand, it's given

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Speaker 3: you some of the highest highs, obviously the Bubble Championship

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Speaker 3: being won, and even the next year when they started

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Speaker 3: off so hot like Gangbusters, and then Lebron's ankle got

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Speaker 3: ran into by Salomon Hill like kind of derailed everything

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Speaker 3: and they lose to Phoenix in round one. But it's

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Speaker 3: also giving you some of the most uninspiring, you know, embarrassing,

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Speaker 3: quite frankly basketball that I've seen in my life, Like

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Speaker 3: the Russell Westbrook experience was terrible. Lebron when he knows

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Speaker 3: his team is out of it, throws the ball off

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Speaker 3: the back of a backboard, you know, trying to inbound

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Speaker 3: it right like, or they inbound it and he's watching

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Speaker 3: it roll up the court and he forgets to get

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Speaker 3: it before it goes out of bounds like like that

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff. And then you know Lebron pulling power

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Speaker 3: plays year after year after year after year and really

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Speaker 3: nothing to show for it, say for that one championship.

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Speaker 3: This is not like peak Lebron, where every year you're

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Speaker 3: in the mix that just hasn't worked out that way,

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Speaker 3: So I guess I wouldn't. I'm not saying I'm rooting

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Speaker 3: for Lebron to league, but I wouldn't mind it either

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Speaker 3: at this point. But you know what's funny is I

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Speaker 3: saw that mav stuff percolating online and it's all MAVs Twitter, Like,

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Speaker 3: it's not anybody reputable. It's just like MAVs fan sides

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Speaker 3: and Reddit size and credit to those guys, Like we've

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Speaker 3: seen some of the best NBA news in history broken

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Speaker 3: on Reddit, you know, just because it's people who know somebody.

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Speaker 3: They know the Valet guy, they're friends with, the agent

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Speaker 3: and their investment. Baker is his best friends with Nico

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Speaker 3: Harrison and blah bla blah blah. Stuff like that happens

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Speaker 3: from time to time. And then in the very next tweet,

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Speaker 3: you know, after that one gets shared half a million times,

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Speaker 3: there's a video of Lebron James at Summer the League

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Speaker 3: dapping of Ropelinka, and you're like, well, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what to believe anymore, because on one hand, it seems like

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Speaker 3: he's definitely going to Dallas. The other hand, it seems like, nope,

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Speaker 3: me school he's hanging out with the rest of his teammates.

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Speaker 3: Either way, I like you, I don't see it happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't see it. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll get through these July dog days of Lebron. I

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Speaker 2: will say I think one of the biggest sports moments

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Speaker 2: of the year this calendar year, excluding you know, the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers World Series Game one shot on Halloween, I think

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Speaker 2: the biggest sports moment of the year because there wasn't

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Speaker 2: like a moment in the Super Bowl. I guess the

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Speaker 2: pick six was big, But the Luca trade, to me

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Speaker 2: is like last year we had a lot of mo

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Speaker 2: It's the Dodgers World Series, you had the Steph Curry

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Speaker 2: at the Olympics. I'm trying to think, was there anything

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Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals. No, the Super Bowl went to overtime.

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Speaker 2: That was That was great. So twenty twenty four was amazing.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five I don't really know that there's been a moment.

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Speaker 2: I think the Luca trade was probably the biggest sports

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Speaker 2: woman of the year. And again I'm just going off

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Speaker 2: the cuff. If Lebron somehow got traded, I think that

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Speaker 2: would eclipse the Luca moment. Wouldn't it Ooh, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's ever been traded, is he? Yeah? Now,

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Speaker 2: I mean I mean, I don't know if there was

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Speaker 2: like an opt in and sign and trade. Maybe there

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Speaker 2: was that I forgot with like the Cleveland or Miami.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly how.

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Speaker 3: The technically the Miami deal was a sign and trade.

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Speaker 2: Sign and trade, right, Okay, traded? Yeah, well this would

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Speaker 2: probably have to be a Now it wouldn't be a sign.

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Speaker 3: So here my only and I think you're onto something.

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Speaker 3: My only I guess Devil's advocate pushback would be what

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Speaker 3: made the Luca trade so size me because that nobody

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Speaker 3: saw it coming and people thought that Schams was hacked

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Speaker 3: when it happened. At this point, because of all the

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Speaker 3: uncertainties surrounding Lebron, even though it would be a seismic trade,

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Speaker 3: just because anybody anytime I guy have that status gets dell.

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Speaker 3: It's a big deal. But because we've kind of been

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Speaker 3: murmurs about it for a couple of weeks now, maybe

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Speaker 3: it's not as big. But in terms of like the

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Speaker 3: grand scheme of thing as sports, Oh yeah, Lebron James

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Speaker 3: getting traded would probably the biggest deal of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And I'm sure some of you out

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Speaker 2: there thought I was going to talk about something else,

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Speaker 2: but I definitely was not. And we had to get

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Speaker 2: into Lebron there to wrap the pot. Okay, we're back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you then,