1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: The volume. Welcome to the Basketball to Colin Coward Podcast. 2 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Some great guests this week. We're giving you all the highlights, 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: but first my takes of the week. That was People 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: not in the media often like to lecture me on 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: how to do media. I mean, I didn't tell my 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: doctor how to do my proctology exam. I don't tell 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: a landscaper how to landscape. I don't want into a 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: restaurant and tell the cook how to cook. They like 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: to say, why do you waste your time on Tebow? 10 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: And I like to respond, why do you waste your 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: time asking me? I talk Tebow because he's newsworthy. No, 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: he's not there. You go lecturing again. We have a 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: handful of people in news who whenever they do anything, 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: we talk about it. Athletes, politicians, TV stars, singers, and 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: they do something big like return to the NFL, reunite 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: with your legendary college coach who's now coaching in the NFL. Yeah, 17 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: that's what we call newsworthy. Listen, when Kanye West said 18 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: he was running for president and starting an actual campaign, 19 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it because we look at 20 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: the Google numbers and you're interested. Jake Paul YouTuber I'm 21 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: gonna fight. Then he keeps winning fights, and then his 22 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: pay per view numbers are substantial. That tells us that 23 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: you're interested. Before Donald Trump ran for president, he was newsworthy. Divorces, controversies, bankruptcies, successes. 24 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: He wasn't newsworthy, all you conservatives. If it wasn't for 25 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: the media talking about act it, nobody gave a shot to, 26 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been president. Do you know that in 27 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, the most googled person was an athlete. No, 28 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't Tom Brady or Tiger Woods. It was Antonio Brown. 29 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: When people say Tebow's not going to be a super 30 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: important player, it's not always the best or most important 31 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: player that you find newsworthy. In twenty fifteen, the most 32 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: googled person was an athlete. It wasn't Lebron or Roger Federer. 33 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: It was lamar Odom. You made him newsworthy. Newsworthiness is 34 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: a business, and there are a handful of people out 35 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: there that drive interest. Virtually nobody can name the fourth 36 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: tight end on the Jaguar's depth chart. Most people can 37 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: only name a handful of people on the entire Jack's roster. 38 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: We all know Tebow because he's interesting. Don't blame me 39 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: for talking about him. Blame him. If Tebow had more 40 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: self awareness and understood that, you know, leaving a sport 41 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: for nearly a decade and then coming back to try 42 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: a new position is really kind of silly. I wouldn't 43 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: have talked about him. I was done talking about him. 44 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: In fact, years ago, at the end of his NFL career, 45 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: I said he probably should go give the CFL a try. 46 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: He really fits that style. I was told. Tebow laughed 47 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: at such a suggestion. Don't kid yourself. This is business 48 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: and this is ego. He's a human being, humble at times, 49 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: very much driven by the brand of Tebow, which pays 50 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: him well other times. Listen, the only reason Europe set 51 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: that I talked Tebow because you don't like the way 52 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: it ended. People always say that I don't like you 53 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: talking Tebow. Let me ask you if he'd have made 54 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: the team. Should I have ignored it? M interesting, Colin, 55 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: Stick to sports. I always hear that from conservatives because 56 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: I tend to kind of lean left on social issues. 57 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Stick to sports. And then once I put Will Kine 58 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: on my podcast, I got nothing but credit. Tip of 59 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: the cap my man loved that podcast. You like politics 60 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: from me when you agree with them. I talked Tebow 61 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: because I find him interesting. I was done talking Tim Tebow. 62 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: If Tim Tebow never tries to be a pro athlete again, 63 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever talk about him. But he's 64 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: interested sometimes in himself and his impractical dreams. When he 65 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: wants to stop, I'll stop. I watched every single NFL 66 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: preseason game, and let's just go into the quarterbacks, because 67 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: that's what most of us were drawn to. The quarterbacks. 68 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: So for the sake of this rant, let's include Jordan 69 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: Love in the rookie quarterbacks, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Trevor Lawrence, 70 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: Sack Wilson, Mac Jones, and Jordan Love. Since he didn't 71 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: dress last year, I thought of those six, five had 72 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: moments of brilliance. And mac Jones maybe in the perfect situation. 73 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he has a terribly highest ceiling. But 74 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: New England's not going to ask him to do things 75 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: that the Bears are going to ask Justin Fields to 76 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: do behind a fairly patchwork offensive line. They just brought 77 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: in Jason Peters, So let's start with Justin Fields. Six 78 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: three two twenty eight sizes, fine arms, excellent. I think 79 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: what you're going to see without offensive line and really 80 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: limited skill people. After Alan Robinson, you know, it's a 81 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: bunch of emerging young wide receiver talent. Cole Comets a 82 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: very good young tight end, but he's a young tight end. 83 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: They have one running back who got dinged up. They 84 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: don't have a ton of depth at the skill positions, 85 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: so they're gonna lean on Justin Fields a lot. A 86 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: source I trust told me that he struggled this first 87 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks in camp, but over the last week 88 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: it's really come around. He's a kid that because he 89 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of weapons, not a lot of 90 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: receivers can get themselves open. He's going to look downfield 91 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: and if the first or second option isn't there, he's 92 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: going to flush out to the right and run a lot. 93 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: The good news is he'll make a lot of plays, 94 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: a lot of plays. He looked a little nervous early, 95 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: but he's a huge talent and I think he's going 96 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: to start game one. Trey Lance, I thought he looked 97 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: as good as any of them. Not a shock. He's 98 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: got arguably the best offensive coach and the best roster. 99 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: That's something we have to add context to this stuff. 100 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I watch Jacksonville play Cleveland. Does Jacksonville have 101 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: two starters that would start for Cleveland? Does Jacksonville have 102 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: five starters on their second team that would start for Cleveland. 103 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's just a total physical mismatch in some 104 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: of these games. So Trey Lance, the Niners have a 105 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: super Bowl roster and a super Bowl coach. How thought 106 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: Trey looked great. I also think that offense is complex. 107 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: He'll continue to grow. I think Garoppolo starts the season. 108 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: He has a very lively arm, super athletic rate size. 109 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he is the one quarterback that 110 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: I think has a chance to advance in his first 111 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: year in the playoffs. Trey Lance could be the starting 112 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: quarterback end of this year and win a playoff game, 113 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: largely because of what's around him. Listen, Veteran quarterbacks need help. 114 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: Young quarterbacks need more help. But I think Trey Lance 115 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: is in a perfect situation. He's got playmakers all over 116 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: the place. Brandon au Kittle, Trevor Lawrence made two great throws. 117 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: It's a bad team. It's a complete, utter gut job. 118 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: It is a remodel. It's a rehab. He made two 119 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: great throws against a far superior roster. Cleveland's got a 120 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: top three roster in the NFL. JAG's got a bottom 121 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: two roster. I don't know what to take of it. 122 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: He looked comfortable. He made a great throw up the sideline. 123 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: There's not a lot I can say. I think he's 124 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: gonna win about six games. Urban Meyer needs one more 125 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: draft and one more free agency period to really compete 126 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: on an even playing field. Zach Wilson, as we suspected, 127 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: very lively, arm and moves well. He does look small. 128 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 1: I think he has the fourth best coach in his division. 129 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: There have been some comparisons made to Aaron Rodgers in 130 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: the way the ball comes out of his hand. It's 131 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: very lively, it looks beautiful. As I've said, he's a 132 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: little small. For me, he's got the worst roster, probably 133 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: the fourth best coach in a division. You can just 134 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: put down Owen four against the Patriots and the Bills. 135 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Just put Owen four to probably Owen six. If you 136 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: put in the Dolphins, he is going to be fighting uphill. 137 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Of all the rookie quarterbacks. I think he has the 138 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: worst spot. I love Joe Douglas, but listen, the kid 139 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: made a couple of really quick, clever throws. And I 140 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: will say this, this team is not breaft of talent 141 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: the offensive line. They have a very good left tackle, 142 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker. I mean they've got some talent here. 143 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean Darnald was pressured on forty two percent of 144 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: the snaps last year. That is just from a franchise standpoint, embarrassing. 145 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: So between Beckton and Elijah Vera Tucker, the Jets are 146 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: in far better shape upfront. Mac Jones low ceiling, not 147 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: a playmaker. He is not the ideal quarterback for twenty 148 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: one twenty two NFL football. But I said this on 149 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: TV last week. The Patriots do not have the kind 150 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: of offensive talent that can overcome turnovers. And I could 151 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: very easily see that franchise and that coaching staff talking 152 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: themselves into Mac Jones and occasionally bringing in packages for 153 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: Cam Newton near the goal line. Mac Jones can get 154 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: you out of trouble with the line of scrimmage, can 155 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: get you into the right formation. He's a more accurate thrower, 156 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: good feet, steady, you know, throws a nice deep ball, 157 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have a huge arm. But again, you know what 158 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: New England's gonna look like this year, They're gonna look 159 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: like the Miami Dolphins last year. Now, the Dolphins this 160 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: year have added Jay and Waddle Will Fuller, so they're 161 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: going to have a lot more speed and punch on 162 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: the perimeter. New England is going to look a lot 163 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: like Miami last year with twa playing they went ten 164 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: and six. Two went six and three, with below average 165 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: quarterback play, but great coaching, great defense, good special teams. 166 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: The difference is New England has maybe the best screen 167 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: game in the NFL, next to San Francisco, and all 168 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: sorts of depth at running back. 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Man. 214 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: They both like right at that point where you know, 215 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: we gotta win, They both at that we gotta wins part. 216 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: So I think they both gonna kind of put the 217 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: ego to the side a little bit so they can 218 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: so they can get that done. Man, and Matthew Stafford 219 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: been through it all. He's talented and you know, he 220 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: played a lot of football. He'd be like a coach 221 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: on the field. That's what Sean, That's what he explained 222 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: to me. He said, you say coach on the field, 223 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: but this situation you really really almost got like a 224 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: coach on the field. Man. That's how well he knows 225 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: schemes and he know defenses, he know pre snap stuff. 226 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: So I think it'll work. Man, I think that'd be good. 227 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: And then they got a they got a badass defense 228 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: to play with two man, that always helps. Well, yeah, 229 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: you're not in shootouts every week, right like he was 230 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: in Detroit. Now you faced him? How many times Matt 231 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Stafford in your career because you did a lot of 232 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: AFC stuff, so you probably didn't face him a ton. 233 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: I think I faced him twice. I think I faced him, 234 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think twice. I say twice. How'd you do? 235 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: Oh solid? I mean the first time, I think he 236 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: threw a bunch of deep ball to Calvin Man. I 237 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: got a lot of safety health. It was jump balls 238 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: me and Calvin, Calvin had two touchdowns that game. One 239 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: was in two man our safety leaning to the tight 240 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: end pedigrew when we got Calvin Johnson over here. Don't 241 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: lean the pedigrew when Calvin Johnson is over here with 242 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: me right. And then it was a hitching goal too, 243 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: So you know, not all the way my fault that 244 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: was like twenty yards. And one was the hurry up, 245 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: the hurry up quick fade that's on the highlight every 246 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: time you see highlights. I'm I'm on his highlight. Take 247 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: on Calvin Johns highlight take. But he only had sixty 248 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: six yards sixty six yards, two touchdown. The second game 249 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: he has zero touchdowns, he has seventy some yards. I 250 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: followed him. I followed him left to right both games, 251 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: so I fare pretty well. And then the first game 252 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: when he had two touchdowns sixty six yards, I had 253 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: an interception for a touchdown, so I matched one of 254 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: the touchdowns with him. Now Stanford, Stanford, unlike golf, he'll 255 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: let it loose, he'll take some chances. You sense that. Definitely, 256 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. I played against him twice and both times 257 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: a few times I had some great coverage and I 258 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: ain't no slots on the deep balls. People don't just 259 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: throw me deep balls, right, Cotton, I ain't never really 260 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: just got balls just thrown up to me, right. Matt 261 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: Stafford did? He did when I was in Tampa. He 262 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: did when I was when I was in Denver. You 263 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think that was the year 264 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: we one in the Super Bowl too, So this was 265 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: this was lead lead, you know what I'm saying. And 266 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: he threw balls that way, man, So he's gonna let 267 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: it go, tight windows and everything. He's gonna let it go. 268 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: So it's hard to say who's good who's not. Um, 269 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, my takeaway is, let's talk Mac Jones on 270 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: Thursday night. So if you were Belichick and you know him, 271 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: you were there for years, right, they can make two arguments. 272 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: They can make the argument that we don't have a 273 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: ton of playmakers. We need a playmaker at quarterback. Cam 274 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: will give us something Mac won't. Or they can make 275 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: this argument as a staff at keeb Okay, we're not 276 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: talented enough offensively to turn the ball over, right, Okay, 277 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: Mac Jones more accurate, Um gets the ball out quickly, 278 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: not gonna run around. You know, Cam last year had picks. 279 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: He has fumbles. They can make two compelling arguments. We 280 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: need Cam's playmaking or you know what, we want a 281 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: guy that just delivers the ball, distributes, get us in 282 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: and out of trouble, and then let's our defense win. 283 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Your gut feeling on which way Belichick you're around and 284 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: which way he'd go, I definitely think he'd go Cam, 285 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: just because I think Bill is big on leadership, right, 286 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: and you know, man, who's gonna who's gonna be the 287 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: best leader in that out of And that's about far Cam. 288 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: So I think Bill think even though mac Jones might 289 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: be more accurate, he might be, you know, slower to 290 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: throw something in the traffic, and he'd throw the check 291 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: down quicker than Cam. You might try not. I ain't 292 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: gonna miss this thing up. I might not make no plays. 293 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: I might not. Ain't gonna miss his name up though 294 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna get that. But who's gonna be 295 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: the best leader in his huddle? You know what I'm saying? 296 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: When things get tough, who gonna keep the guys together? 297 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: Who're gonna you know, rather the troops when when fourth quarter? 298 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: When when they need to be rallied? And you gotta 299 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: say that as Cam. Are you surprised Cam struggled most 300 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: of last year though, But are you surprised that the 301 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: patriot culture and Cam have worked? Because by and large 302 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: he compliments it, Belichick compliments him. There's been no rough spots. 303 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean last year he got COVID in the middle 304 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: of the year, so I kind of gave him a pass. 305 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: At the end of the year, I thought he played 306 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: pretty well. Are you kind of surprised at well? I am. 307 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm surprised it works. Me being there, I'm not surprised 308 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: it worked because Cam is a leader. Like I said, 309 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: he a great leader, and you're not going out work them. 310 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: He one of them guys like I might be Hollywood, 311 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: I might dress like this, but he worked hella hard 312 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: like Odell. He wanted those kind of guys. May you 313 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: not gonna match stay work and its shit like that? 314 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: That Bill respect. If you're a leader and you work 315 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: like that, you're competitive like that, you bow down to nobody. 316 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: I compete against anybody, any whatever, no matter whom I 317 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: receive you. Let's go Bill respect that man, so and 318 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: Cam different man. I'm telling you that leadership he got. 319 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: It's you got leaders, then you got guys like cam 320 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: so the top nos a leader man. He gonna bring 321 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: guys all the way together. So bill Field that in 322 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: the building. So here we go into another season. Give 323 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: me your AFC NFC championship. Let's put it on tape. 324 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go like um, I like Buffalo a lot. 325 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna it's not that I don't like Kansas City. 326 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: They're everybody's favorite. I think Buffalo. I think Baltimore is 327 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a handful. I think Cleveland's gonna be a handful. 328 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are gonna surprise people. You know 329 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be Buffalo Kansas City because it's never 330 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: the teams we think right, So you're gonna go outside 331 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: the bus. I'm gonna go crazy here, Chargers, Bills AC 332 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: throw me out. What do you got? Look all right? 333 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Uh AFC Chip, I'm gonna go Chiefs, Browns. I got 334 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: no problem with it, Chiefs Browns, Odell Beckham comes back, 335 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: great offensive line, Baker finally has a legitimate head coach 336 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: k NFC. They got the pieces to play. Joe Woods defense, 337 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: Joe Woods super super super similar to Wave Phillips. You see, 338 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: he went and got he went and got Commar, John Johnson, Camaro, Troy. 339 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: He just got some bodies in his secondary. It got 340 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: some more cover guys, Camarre, newsom here Man guy Camar. 341 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: He got guys who really hit. The description of that 342 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: Joe Woods defense, I think that defense is gonna be 343 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: totally different this year. Let's go to the NFC. UM. 344 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: You have to take Tampa simply because they have the 345 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: best roster. Seattle's not a complete team. I my gut 346 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: feeling is when cam Akers got hurt, the Rams are 347 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: missing a leg on the bar stool. They just don't 348 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: have a running game. I'll probably go Seattle Tampa, is 349 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: my guest. I don't think Seattle is a complete team. 350 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: I still have questions on the interior of the offensive line, 351 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: but I do think, you know, I do think Russell 352 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: Wilson just wins so many close games. I'd go Seattle Tampa. 353 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: What would be your call, Seattle Tampa. Let me get 354 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: outside the box a little bit, man, I'm gonna go. 355 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: I like that with I think somebody definitely got to 356 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: represent in the West. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Tampa, Arizona. 357 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: I like Arizona to catch fire Man, and you know, 358 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny last two years, as they were 359 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: in a rebuild, Arizona's given the Seahawks, the Rams and 360 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: the Niners fits in a total rebuild. They know how 361 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: to play them. Guy. So so as okay, as coaches 362 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: been over there, right he went, he doing good in 363 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: the division, So you know how to play his division. 364 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: And that's that's the most important thing, man. Everything that's 365 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: a come around one year, you would catch fire. As 366 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: long as you know how to win in your division, 367 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: you you in good shape. And that's what he's doing. Yeah. 368 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: I also think that division could largely be dictated by 369 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: who's healthiest. But the healthy team may just win. I mean, 370 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, if if Garoppolo goes down early 371 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: and Trey's got to play, that's not ideal. Right, that's 372 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: not ideal. If Dwayne Brown got hurt left tackle for Seattle, 373 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: that's a battle line overnight, exactly, all right. Dave Juanstadt, 374 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: former coach of the Bears and Dolphins, Dallas defensive coordinator 375 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl twenty seven win. So if they 376 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: are going to become a power offense, yep, you would 377 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: go with fields to start game one. No, I would not. 378 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: I would start Dalton for this reason. And when I 379 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: was at practice, Andy Dalton throws a simple little curl 380 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: route and I'm standing there in the sidelines. There's probably 381 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand people a practice. Nobody moves five plays 382 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: later Justin Fields because in there and throws the same play, 383 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: same receiver, he catches it. A thousand people are un 384 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: their feet screaming, So you know, I mean, the point 385 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: is that this town is so hot for Justin Fields 386 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: that it's gonna happen. And Andy's being paid a lot 387 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: of money, he's a vetter, and he's saying all the 388 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: right things. I'd let him start off. I would have 389 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: Justin Fields say you're gonna play in this first game. 390 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how much. Let's see what happens, though. 391 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: If the worst thing they could do is put this 392 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: kid in there, and if he fails and fails early, 393 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: boy order backs can lose their confidence. And now the 394 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: locker rooms looking around, and you got all those issues. 395 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: So I would go with Dalton to start off. I 396 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: would play Fields in the first game, and it's going 397 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: to take care of itself. Matt Naggie cannot listen to 398 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: the fans if he makes a decision because with the 399 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: fans want there's an old expression, you listen to the 400 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: people in the stand. Sooner or later you'll be sitting 401 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: with them. How many snaps are they sharing first team snaps? 402 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: Because that's crucial. You know. The other day when twa 403 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: and we'll get to him in a second, because you 404 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: coach the Dolphins, TA played the Bears. Two has taken 405 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: all the first team snaps in Miami, Justine, Justin Fields 406 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: isn't Yeah, two is a starter? Yes, I mean he starter. 407 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: Fields is not right now? And I think you think 408 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: about this and Matt Nagee kind of fished Tier a 409 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: little bit on this the other day. But the one 410 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: thing that I will say about Matt, and I know 411 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: him and Ryan Pace in the McCaskey family, they are 412 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: people of high integrity, and they told Andy Dalton, you 413 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: come here and you're gonna be the starter. I just 414 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: think that that's part of it that they want to 415 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: hold to their commitment of this kid, and I think 416 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen. They open up Sunday night in 417 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles against the Rams, So it's gonna it's not 418 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna be easy. I don't know if I put, I 419 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think there's a quarterback in the 420 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: league that would want to start under you know, Aaron Donald, right, No, 421 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: they wouldn't. I evaluated all these quarterbacks last weekend. We 422 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: can get into that. I thought Fields, I thought that 423 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson was the best. I was totally. I had 424 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: never seen this kid play much, and I'm watching him 425 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: at the Jets game and I said, wow, I mean 426 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: I was he caught my attention. I thought, just accuracy, 427 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: this quick decision and the ball came out and he 428 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 1: was completing. To me, he was converting third downs and 429 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: there was a full speed pass rush coming at him. 430 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that guy got my attention. I thought that 431 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence were about the same. You know, 432 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, I thought he was He's got the father's 433 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: way to go. I did not see Mac Jones play 434 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: in New England. I missed that game, but I saw 435 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: the rest of them. And I'll tell you the kid 436 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: at the Jets as a player, well, I mean, listen, 437 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: we knew this about him. You know, he had his 438 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: two comps are Aaron Rodgers and Johnny Manziel. He's got 439 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: a good feed, he moves well, and he's got a 440 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: very very quick release. He's got a better arm than Manziel. 441 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: And the one thing I liked about Zach Wilson is, 442 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, Michael Beckton, they have a left tackle Darnold 443 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: never did, and then Elijah Vera Tucker. Now they're gonna have, 444 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, arguably the best guard in the draft. So 445 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: one of the things I liked about him, despite being 446 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: a smallish quarterback, he's six two two ten, that's that's 447 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: that's smaller than you'd like. Aaron Rodgers is six two 448 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: two twenty five, thicker, big calfs, big risks. Aaron's a 449 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: thicker athlete. But I thought Zach stood in the pocket. 450 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: And Trent Dilford told me this years ago. He goes 451 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: some guys colin they don't like defensive lineman barking at him. 452 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: They don't like it. They get nervous. I thought Zach, 453 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: as a smaller quarterback, just stood as the pocket kept 454 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: closing and closing, and he just stood there. And that's 455 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: something to me, that's there's a certain inner confidence that 456 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: was impressive. I would agree totally. You know what's amazing 457 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: all these young quarterbacks are playing well and all of it. 458 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: There's so many teams right now that are talking about 459 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl, and they want to anoint 460 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks, you know, I mean they want to 461 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: bless them already. I would just take you back. And 462 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: we went to daoas with Troy ak went our first year, 463 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: and I think we might have been three in one. 464 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: But we were feeling real good about the preseason. And 465 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: we went down to New Orleans and be Justin Fields 466 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: made one comment that makes me a little nervous. He said, 467 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: the game wasn't nearly as fast as I thought it 468 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: would be. Okay, well, it wasn't nearly as fast for us. 469 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: We were driving back. We beat the Raiders, and you know, 470 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: we had never lost at University in Miami down there, 471 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy and myself and all the whole crew, and we're 472 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: driving back and I remember saying to myself, God, this 473 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be easy. What's the big And we went 474 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: down and played the Saints in New Orleans and we 475 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: got shut out and the only time they didn't score 476 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: is when they missed the field goal or dropped the 477 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: ball in the end zone. We were terrible. We won 478 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: one game that year, but in the preseason we had 479 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: a whole different feeling. So you know, I'm pumping the brake. 480 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: I love what I see how these young quarterbacks, but 481 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm kind of pumping the brakes a little bit and saying, 482 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: and you know, it's gonna be a different game. Justin 483 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: field's slowed on, it's gonna be faster. Trust me, when 484 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: you play get in that game against the Rams and 485 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: see Aaron donaldin company over there, it's gonna be a 486 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: lot faster and without further ado, let's welcome in triple 487 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: h that. You know. It's funny, Paul. They gave me 488 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: all these questions and I thought I gotta some of 489 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: these I don't even care about. Let's get to the 490 00:28:49,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: real stuffy. You look like you're in fantastic shape. Well fantastic, 491 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: I think might be a stretch. Apparently I didn't look 492 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: that good. I had to go in there and get 493 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: shiny stuff on my head so I didn't blind everybody. 494 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: For me, the gym is sort of the anchor in 495 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: my life, right, so I think everybody needs something that 496 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: can level set them on a daily basis. For me, 497 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: it's training and if I don't you know, if I'm 498 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: not in the gym training on a regular basis. I 499 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: started when I was fourteen. So if I'm not doing 500 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: that on a regular basis, I feel like I'm spiraling 501 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: out of control. Do you have another match in you? 502 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: Could you be talked into it? So I'm glad you 503 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: stopped that. You still got a chant because you don't 504 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: know quite honestly, neither do I. Yeah, Look, if people 505 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: want it, if it's the right thing, it's got to 506 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: be intriguing for me, you know. So like just at 507 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: this point, we're as busy as as everybody is in 508 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: the WWE from a from a business side. For me 509 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: to get ready for WrestleMania, it's not at at my age, 510 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: it's not um something that you enter into casually. I'd 511 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: have to train a lot, a couple times a day 512 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: for you know, three months or show to get ready 513 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: for that in ring training everything. So I've already torn 514 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: most everything off my body, so, uh, you want to 515 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: make sure you're not ready to do that again. So 516 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: the training would be the tough part with the schedule, 517 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: But if it was something that people wanted and it 518 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: was intriguing to me, I would love to do it. 519 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: I would love to come back and hit a WrestleMania. 520 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: But I've said it before, I'd also love to, you know, 521 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: much like somebody like Seen is doing, which is you 522 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: sort of make the comeback and you do it. But 523 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: going to the to the towns, I'd love to, you know, 524 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: if I was to do something like that before I 525 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: called it a day, go to the garden again, you know, Um, 526 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: go to Japan to go to different countries and have 527 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: that one more match, you know, Um, step into those 528 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: cities that you went to where you have twenty five 529 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: plus years of memories of of all those things and 530 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: opponents and everything else, and be able to go out 531 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: there and do it again, um, in front of them 532 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: one more time. Now that doesn't have to be against 533 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: the same person you got against that WrestleMania. So you know, 534 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: for me, it's it's a matter of what we can 535 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: make happen. But um, but it's intriguing for sure. Who 536 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: is the most underrated in your opinion? The fighter that 537 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: maybe didn't quite get to your level or stone Cold 538 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: but you look back and you're like hell of a wrestler, athletic, 539 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: just just a gamer in the ring. Well, you guys 540 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: help out with that feel free. Well, it's a hard 541 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: thing to say because what you're saying to me is 542 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: who's the best? You know, if you're looking at technical 543 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: in ring wrestling, right right, Like, okay, so let's look 544 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: at WrestleMania three, Huld Cogan, Andre the Giant, Andre's older 545 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: broken down at that point, can can't move a lot. 546 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: Hogan's Hogan, and people think that's an not the most 547 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: athletic performer of the generation, great crowd, psychology, unbelievable charisma, 548 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: all those things. Ninety thousand people Pontiac Silverdome, right because 549 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: of that match Savage Steamboat on the card, Steamboat one 550 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: of the greatest in ring performers at all time. If 551 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: that match wasn't on the card, they still would have 552 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: put ninety thousand people on a Pontiac Silverdome to watch 553 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: Hogan and Andre. That's what they paid to see. The 554 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: match that stole the night. The fight was that one 555 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: was the Savage Steamboat, Right, that was by far the 556 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: greatest match in the card, but it didn't draw the crowd. Right. So, 557 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of fighters out there 558 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: that even in the legit fight business, great fighters, they 559 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: don't capture the imagination of anybody, so they're always undergo 560 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: have the magnetism that you did Stone called Hulk the Rock. 561 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: Look Floyd Mayweather. You can make an argument that Floyd 562 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 1: is the greatest boxer of a generation. You could make 563 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: an argument that he's one of the greatest of all time, right, 564 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: technically even statistically beyond others. Right, when did he really 565 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: become a box office jaw? When he creates a character 566 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: called Money Mayweather and he pitches a show to HBO 567 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: called twenty four seven, Right, and he goes on HBO 568 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: and he gets them a character every single week against 569 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of fighters, didn't matter who they were, And 570 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: Floyd gives you a spectacle where everybody was caught up 571 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: in this guy. And he knew, if I can make 572 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: them hate me and want to see me get knocked 573 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: out and then no one touches me and I win 574 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: every time, I'm gonna make a boatload of money. That 575 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: was a success for him. The personality was a success. 576 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: The image, the Money Mayweather image was the success for him. 577 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: He happens to be the greatest boxer of a generation, 578 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: But the character is when it took off. I want 579 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: you to go back to your career. I want you 580 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: to go back to the match. Maybe it was the 581 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: size of it, It was the opponent that was the 582 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: most exhausting that when it was done, I mean, Paul, 583 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: you really felt like I left every ounce. You had 584 00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: the toughest physical match you ever had in your life. 585 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: So it's it's hard. It's hard to say because there's 586 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: moments in your career. Adrenaline is a magical thing, right, 587 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: so there's moments in your career where you do get 588 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, you get beat up, you get battered, and 589 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: you get injured along the way. You know. Um, it's 590 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: not a secret. Everybody knows it. I'm not bragging about it, 591 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: but like you know, I tore my quad twice on 592 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: live TV. Finished the matches, uh, the first elimination chamber 593 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: we were in, and I hate even bringing it up 594 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: because it wasn't Rob van Dam's fault in any way, 595 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: shape or form. None of us had ever been in 596 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: that thing before. And part way through the match, which was, 597 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: you know, an amazing amount of talent, but as Rob 598 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: came off the top of the cage, he went on 599 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: top of a pod which wasn't as didn't have as 600 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: much space on it as we envisioned it having. He 601 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: couldn't stand up straight. Whether I was in too far 602 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: or too close or not sure, but just came off funny. 603 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: And he tried to protect me but landed on my throat. Um. 604 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: You know, I could hardly breathe the whole match, and 605 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: they brought a doctor out under the ring. And you 606 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: know you have matches like that were you're just trying 607 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: to get through it. Adrenaline probably gets you through it. 608 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeahs and and those are those are difficult things. And again, 609 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: like you said, adrenaline that they were all chanting take 610 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: her a minute ago. And uh, I when when Taker 611 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: and I wrestled, not Hell in the cell, but the 612 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: year before. I'm terrible with numbers those at WrestleMania something, 613 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: thank you, um, but but wrestled the year before. It 614 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: was so physical and I remember walking out of there thinking, 615 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: like Jesus, that was brutal, like on both of us. 616 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: And and for whatever reason, the people you're closest to 617 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: you can hit the hardest in our business. I don't 618 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: know why that is. It's just the thing. Um, we 619 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: beat the hell out of each other. When it was over, 620 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: I walked to his locker room to talk to him, 621 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: and he couldn't get up off the floor. I went 622 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: back to his locker room like two hours later, and 623 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: he was still sitting there. He had moved to a chair, 624 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: but he couldn't get out of the chair. Damn it, calling, 625 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna make my makeup run? I did show it 626 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: earlier today. Yeah, yeah, and I am more makeup onm 627 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: than she did. Um, you know that's leaving it all 628 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: out there. But that's what we do. And there's you know, 629 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: are there matches where it's harder. Yeah, there's matches where 630 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: But I've seen everybody do it. I watched Austin in 631 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: the heyday. One time. I wrestled him for like forty 632 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: minutes in a town in the middle of nowhere, and 633 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: I didn't know he was sick walking in and uh, 634 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: I thought he looked a little funny when we hadn't talked. 635 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: You know, I hadn't really seen him much during the 636 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: day because what I didn't know was he was sick 637 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: in a room. We got to the ring and I 638 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: remember looking across the ring and I'm thinking it looks 639 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: a little green. Maybe it's lighting in here or whatever. 640 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: But anyway, we went like forty minutes. And when we 641 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: got done, I walked in the back and he was 642 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: like laying down and he was just shaking, and he 643 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: was green, and he had an infection in his elbow. 644 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: You know, he his staff. I didn't know it. Wow, 645 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, Andy, But he was just the pride of 646 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: the performer. And what we go through for you, you don't. 647 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: You know, people respect it and they get it, but 648 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: they have no idea, no one. And I'm glad it's 649 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: changed somewhat today. We have the medical protocols that we 650 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: have and everything we protect talent. There's an old saying that, 651 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, you have to put a rider on a horse, 652 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: on a on a racehorse, because if you don't have 653 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: a ride to stop it, it'll just keep running until 654 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: it dies. A lot of ways performers in our industry 655 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: used to be like that. Yeah, and we put those 656 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: medical practices in place because you have to pull those 657 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: reins because they will just keep running. And you have 658 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: to protect We have to protect ourselves from ourselves in 659 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: some manner, and so I've seen a lot of people 660 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: do it. But on any given night, most everybody's leaving 661 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: everything they got in that ring that wraps it up 662 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: for the week. We're heading into another big week here 663 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: at The Volume. Make sure to subscribe and follow us 664 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: at the Volume Sports on Twitter and Instagram. The Volume