WEBVTT - Tone Stith

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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Than take Valichi. We are the authorities R and B.

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<v Speaker 1>Lady is gentleman.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Tank Valentine. This is the Ry Money

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<v Speaker 2>podcast authority on all things R and B. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>old and new and in between and in between.

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<v Speaker 1>We tapped in, We.

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<v Speaker 2>Tapped in, We tapped into the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Still brought all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>We brought some of the youth into the building tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, we're talking about musicianship. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about sanging. We're talking about we're talking about you were

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<v Speaker 2>playing whatever instrument want to play?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh it's hair? Nice? Is that nice? Pants to thank y'all?

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<v Speaker 2>What man?

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<v Speaker 1>Some bro? How you feeling rather?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm blessed, but I can't complain.

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<v Speaker 4>About to drop a project?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir, so everything is good.

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<v Speaker 1>You're about to drop a project.

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<v Speaker 4>I am about to drop a project.

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<v Speaker 1>And which project is the which number project is this?

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<v Speaker 3>This is so?

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<v Speaker 1>How many projects have you dropped?

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't dropped any official album?

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<v Speaker 1>And if number, how many projects have you dropped?

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<v Speaker 2>Mixed tapes that I like to call it, Tom It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be my fifth one, your fifth one? So so so, Jay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just make a note of this. Okay, so be

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<v Speaker 2>his fifth uh entry into into the musical universe that

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<v Speaker 2>we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Not part of it anyway. Background something, yeah something, background snatch.

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<v Speaker 3>Even on records.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally like you look on a line of those niggasy

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<v Speaker 2>snap who sadly I'd like to be involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, Well you already know. Sometimes so we.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, you'll be out of the country though sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only out of the country once a year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in July. We can plan around.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm back, I'm back to tonight tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like and I think for what we

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<v Speaker 2>are is like we're you know, we're the bridges, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're always trying to just make and keep the connection.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>As you are, as you are in the space where

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<v Speaker 2>you are building your new R and B career, we

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<v Speaker 2>are just guys that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would just love to help.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it, that's all. We don't need nothing from you.

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<v Speaker 2>What we require is that.

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<v Speaker 3>You kill them.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely all we care about, Okay, and we're gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>the battery, the battery in your back.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on.

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<v Speaker 1>He was performing somewhere the other days.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I want to go pull up on it, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>called it was a vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>It it was a vibe. I hit him.

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<v Speaker 3>I said he had he had posted that he was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be in l A.

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<v Speaker 1>I hit him.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, send me the info. He send me the info.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, Okay, this ship is far.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun, you know what, for the love R and B.

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<v Speaker 1>For the love of R and B, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Gonna pull up on a young fella because for me,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been a fan from afar of just appreciating the

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<v Speaker 5>music that you were putting out, and just from having

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<v Speaker 5>conversations with other industry insiders as they would call him

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<v Speaker 5>that have always spoken so highly of you as well,

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<v Speaker 5>and and just and meeting you in past. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a really nice dude. I'm supporting you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm supporting him. So I was like, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, I'm gonna take the ride. I'm go out

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<v Speaker 5>there and see what he do, and then you would

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<v Speaker 5>work the trip, appreciate short performance, you know what I

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<v Speaker 5>Mean's like, yeah, I'm just going up for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>about ten minutes, fifteen minutes. But I got to see

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<v Speaker 5>from stage presence to uh vocally the way you handled

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<v Speaker 5>the crowd, the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, because it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>At first, I thought it was a show as well,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't know, you know, I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>the full spectrum of you know, what the event.

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<v Speaker 1>Was going to be.

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<v Speaker 5>But that didn't matter to me because I was I

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<v Speaker 5>was coming to support some thinking I'm just I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to a show. But then I'm like, okay, he's it's

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<v Speaker 5>like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Venue, outdoor vibe party, kick it, but some performance.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not always easy for artists, absolutely, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean, like having conversations, I mean like

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<v Speaker 2>like singing, why people are having conversations and parts of

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<v Speaker 2>the cabody right right, right right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's real that.

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<v Speaker 2>You were able to command that crowd. You were able

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<v Speaker 2>to zone in.

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<v Speaker 5>In into you know, into the audience and really locking

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<v Speaker 5>with them and and and get.

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<v Speaker 1>Your ship off.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just appreciated that, man, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>we're lacking, especially in mail R and B. We're lacking

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<v Speaker 5>presence and we're lacking man hours. M hm, okay, we're

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<v Speaker 5>lacking man hours because I because here's the other funny part.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna tell you there. I take you today.

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<v Speaker 3>They made me pay what that made me pay?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't paid for anything or any kind of meaning

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<v Speaker 1>stopping me and.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast nigga the music you be doing niggah blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get I.

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<v Speaker 5>Get to I get to the door, and the guy

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<v Speaker 5>I think I probably still have because I paid with

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<v Speaker 5>cash app, so I got that nigga name in my

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<v Speaker 5>phone charged me.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you serious? He said, yeah, you know the list

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been working. Yo, No, this hasn't been working. It

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been working. Why he thought that one? That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I came to support I spent my money too. Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>You should have told me.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, But that's lambing about it now, Like no, but

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<v Speaker 2>like no nigga, like I had a full thing, like

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<v Speaker 2>where I He's like, yeah, so it's gonna be oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, that's cool. Wow, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>But listen, Wow, I came to support you. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be like, yeah, well you let me hit to

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<v Speaker 5>right now. I'ven I got crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying? That just made.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I said, like, I can show you the list,

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<v Speaker 4>said it was prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, he said that they was. They was having

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<v Speaker 2>a problem that's that's figured out right, and real niggas

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<v Speaker 2>don't hit you when they stuck outside, They're like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>figure this thing out quick. And I hollered my guy

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<v Speaker 2>like what but like, hey man, you going on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not about to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Like hey man, they got me at the door, right right,

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<v Speaker 3>right right. I appreciate you with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they charge Yeah, they charged me. They

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<v Speaker 1>charged me. I charged y'all, y'all hear this charge people

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<v Speaker 1>people that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably why I'm not shouting at the event either.

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<v Speaker 2>Niggas charged me, You're gonna do this to me?

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<v Speaker 6>To me.

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<v Speaker 4>From I'm from Jersey, from Jersey, yep, Marlton, New Jersey, Marlton.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's in the trees, bro. I'm down south, like

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<v Speaker 4>thirty minutes from Philly, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Close to Philly. Yeah, okay, yeah yeah? Is that the roots?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the is that the is that the starting

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<v Speaker 2>from from Philly?

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<v Speaker 4>My mom's from Burlington and I went to church in

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<v Speaker 4>Philly too, so I think that's.

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<v Speaker 1>That would drive to church?

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<v Speaker 4>Ye yeah, yeah, yep, minutes a whole another state, right right,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was it is right there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bridge away. But yeah, that's why I got

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<v Speaker 3>every thing from I grew.

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<v Speaker 4>Up in trial was always at church, Bro. I was

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<v Speaker 4>church Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. My mom worked at the

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<v Speaker 4>church and then was on the choir. So I was

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<v Speaker 4>there Saturday Sunday. Just I had no choice to be

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<v Speaker 4>around music and to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so was your mother and father involved in the church?

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<v Speaker 1>Is just your mother?

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<v Speaker 4>So my dad he was a drummer for a while,

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<v Speaker 4>and then and then he stopped playing drums. And then

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<v Speaker 4>my mom she continued to sing on the choir and

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<v Speaker 4>then directed the choir.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was there, bro traveling.

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<v Speaker 1>On when did you get your solo?

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<v Speaker 4>When did you you know what's crazy? I was shy

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<v Speaker 4>as a kid. I did not want to sing in

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<v Speaker 4>front of nobody. I didn't even sing in front of her.

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<v Speaker 4>When she asked me, I'd be like, I'm good, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna play the drums. So you're a drummer, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I started that three.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your first? That my first love? Are you nice? Nice?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm nice?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm nice like Tony Royster nice.

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<v Speaker 3>See that's another level.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you better? Are you better than Anderson Pack?

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<v Speaker 4>He's a pocket?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? Though?

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<v Speaker 3>I would like I would like for us to have

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<v Speaker 3>a drummer.

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<v Speaker 2>Off and and nice want the drum of Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sacking down.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll off against anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I played the drums too, but I'm out of practice.

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<v Speaker 1>How many histories do you play?

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<v Speaker 4>So I play, I play drums, bass, a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of keys, guitar, and then the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So when did did you pick up all of these

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<v Speaker 1>in church? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like literally by ear too. No, nobody taught them.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody, Like you're the kid that's literally in there, like okay,

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<v Speaker 5>let me see what I can do with this exactly,

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<v Speaker 5>and like people will people be playing in church and

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, you know how kids would be, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like be crowding around, and then I'll have my little

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<v Speaker 5>sticks in my pocket wait for somebody be like, get

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<v Speaker 5>up on the play, play a little something something.

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<v Speaker 4>And then if you if you play and it was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of cool, they let you drop. But if you

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<v Speaker 4>was like making too much noise and it wasn't good,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, get your ass off the yeah, come on, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>get down. So I would just be there watching everybody

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<v Speaker 4>do everything. In the moments that I wasn't playing the drums,

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching smart play the organ or somebody played

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<v Speaker 4>the keys.

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<v Speaker 3>This somebody played the guitar. I'm just like, okay, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the first song I learned how to play

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<v Speaker 3>is a diary.

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<v Speaker 4>Who diary? At least diary? The first one you learn

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<v Speaker 4>key got the first.

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<v Speaker 3>Song len I'll play. I was watching it was just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he's in the black keys. That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Getting all the black kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this ones I discovered, yeah, together, those are the

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<v Speaker 2>cool ones to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So like my first song was there it is God

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<v Speaker 1>in the Morning and such horized.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah he stayed stay away from the white don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>And they scared me because one of my grandmother tried

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<v Speaker 2>to put me in music. She put me in music

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<v Speaker 2>and they were like okay middle c and I was

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<v Speaker 2>here with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like yeah, no, no good.

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<v Speaker 2>But once you start playing in church and play long enough,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to catch people during devotional time starting

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<v Speaker 2>in a right right, you got to follow them in

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<v Speaker 2>a You got to pick it up. You got to

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<v Speaker 2>learn quickly how y'all to have perfect pitch. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>start no song in a Why are we singing in E?

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<v Speaker 1>Who does this right? Right? But that's So how fluent

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<v Speaker 1>are you in guitar.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually better in guitar than I am at keys,

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<v Speaker 4>And like I learned keys well enough to just produce,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I started producing it like eleven. But at eleven,

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<v Speaker 4>at eleven, how does that start?

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<v Speaker 1>Though? Like, dude, you ask your parents to get you equipment.

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<v Speaker 4>So okay, So I'll give you a rundown. So I

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<v Speaker 4>was in a group a long time ago and it

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<v Speaker 4>was my best friend, and he is like a genius

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to just rigging stuff up and being

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<v Speaker 4>able to record. So we had he had like all

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<v Speaker 4>old gear from church, like the tape machines and things

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He rigged it.

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<v Speaker 4>Up so that we could just be able to record.

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<v Speaker 4>And so he would just press record on I could.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know how to do it today, but

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<v Speaker 4>your press record on the tapes and stuff it was

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<v Speaker 4>wired to something else. He'd be like, all right, cool,

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<v Speaker 4>we live press play on the track, and we in

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<v Speaker 4>there singing temptations, my girl, my girl, my girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about right. So we're doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Play it back, No, we was off, then we all

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<v Speaker 4>do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>We wasn't sounding good.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything, Yeah, exactly, yep, yep, So back then we was

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<v Speaker 4>probably like the Crazy Party, were probably seven or eight,

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<v Speaker 4>seven and eight doing stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So then I got my hands.

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<v Speaker 4>On fruity loops. I got my hands on fruity loops,

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<v Speaker 4>and that change my life. So he was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 4>this is how you do that. That's how you make

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<v Speaker 4>the drums sounds, is how you do the patterns. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was that bro, and I just fell down

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<v Speaker 4>the rabbit hole. And so my parents they was like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, cool, We're just gonna baughtch your computer or

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<v Speaker 4>actually it was the family computer, and I just put

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<v Speaker 4>fruity loops on there.

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<v Speaker 3>I was taking a boll of storage and ship. They

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<v Speaker 3>had no memory and ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Why it's fifty beats right right right, but now it's

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<v Speaker 2>fruity loops.

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<v Speaker 1>Man was at eleven? Were you writing.

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<v Speaker 3>Songs to the beats too? Or you're just doing beats?

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<v Speaker 3>So no, that was a crazy prob. I was just

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<v Speaker 3>making beats. I didn't I was not thinking about your first.

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<v Speaker 1>Beats to me. I ain't gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was kind of dope.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was kind of dope.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, obviously you hearing back now, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's as crazy as a young beat maker, like

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<v Speaker 2>playing your beats like for people people.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what those faces back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody was just you know, I thought everybody liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, you really are glass half for this.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got potential.

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<v Speaker 1>In my mind, I'm like, I'm killing these I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna get I'm gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're talking to the swool chairs. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't know my tracks with trash, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>because in my mind, I'm just using what I got.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I would like burn CDs and anytime I'll

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<v Speaker 4>go with my mom somewhere, I'll be like, yo, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>burn like ten beats on CD, right, and be like.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, mama, I got I got my CD and.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes all right, you know, put so you play the CD.

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<v Speaker 4>She would be very supportive on the ones that have potential,

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<v Speaker 4>and then on the ones that she didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized that she would be on the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>She's turned down your first. She was honest, honest with it.

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<v Speaker 4>She was like, oh, why did you pick that sound?

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<v Speaker 4>But it's supportive though, you know, never be like oh

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<v Speaker 4>that was whack. But she was like okay, maybe you

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<v Speaker 4>should go back to the drawing board and change that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, my mom, she was honest with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was supporting me though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's super cool.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents didn't really know what that was, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So they was like, all I hear

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<v Speaker 2>is a bunch of noise coming out your room. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to turn that down certain TV amp. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And my my synthesize and

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<v Speaker 2>plugged up to the amp crazy and I'm literally.

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<v Speaker 1>Like sun up son down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I might have only eight once a day.

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<v Speaker 2>You just he was just noise.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, making track because I had a discus. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a PV keyboard. Okay, most people don't know about that

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<v Speaker 2>p v D p M four. I got it, show

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<v Speaker 2>you put my disc in it, and then I don't

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<v Speaker 2>had But you still have the same exact one. You

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<v Speaker 2>still have it. That crazy you kept it some me mental.

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<v Speaker 2>It only had eight tracks to make music, so I

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<v Speaker 2>had to figure out my drums, my keys, my baby

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<v Speaker 2>figure all that out in eight tracks. So sometime I

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<v Speaker 2>had put the kick in the snare on the same track.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't get to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way I figured it out. Was kind of crazy. But

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think my tracks were cool until I get

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<v Speaker 2>on the road with Genuine and I bring my keyboard,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe make some tracks or something, and I'm making tracks

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just genuine like, that's just so, that's I

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<v Speaker 2>got something that sounds like something.

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<v Speaker 1>And come walking Timbling. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh ship, So I meant Timberland for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. He's riding our bus. He's what you got?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do? What you do?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm just making making some beats. So I

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<v Speaker 2>played him somebody he said is He's liked, let's make

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<v Speaker 2>one together.

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<v Speaker 1>That dope. That dope. Yeah, I never heard that story.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dope.

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<v Speaker 2>So me and Timbling making a big bobbing heads on

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<v Speaker 2>on the DP and four of course, you man, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what I got to use my pen because I broke

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<v Speaker 2>that button.

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<v Speaker 1>Rre.

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<v Speaker 2>He an't even seen the ship she was working on,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? He's like okay, yeah? And Nick, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>I was he was like this, Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>And how many years of noise were you making in

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<v Speaker 5>your parents' basement before this moment?

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<v Speaker 2>At this at this point, I'm twenty one two. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been making.

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<v Speaker 3>Noise, making noise, crazy, making.

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<v Speaker 1>Noise since eighth seventh grade? What seventh eighth grade?

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<v Speaker 3>Just making noise. Oh yeah, you gotta you gotta pay

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<v Speaker 3>for every Vegans trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go every No drum set in the house?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell no?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah, no drum set in the house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the keyboard.

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<v Speaker 3>So would you play the song and then play the

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<v Speaker 3>drums to the song that you made?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I was just I was just practice for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever I was going to play on Sunday. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, practicing my chops and everything

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<v Speaker 2>house at the house. It was never both at the

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<v Speaker 2>same saying, like the drums were in the house or

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<v Speaker 2>in the garage in.

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<v Speaker 1>The house, in my bedroom like step brothers. Yeah, drums set.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, hell no, I wish I would my kids

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<v Speaker 2>have a drum set.

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<v Speaker 1>In the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>You know that's why you get the electric my father, Yes, enough, yes, enough,

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<v Speaker 7>cut it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's making noise, bro that long. It takes that. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like when the new movies in Church, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of course from the musician, and it all works out.

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<v Speaker 1>In church.

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<v Speaker 2>But in terms of what I was trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>m M or what even I didn't know what I

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<v Speaker 2>was working towards. I was just wanted to be good

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<v Speaker 2>at it's. In fact, I wanted to sound like Timberland.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to sound like commission shout out to the investors.

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<v Speaker 2>We always shout out the investors, yeah, meaning the supportive parents.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom bought synthesizers. Absolutely did not have the money

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<v Speaker 2>for it, and we was paying payment on.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at that synthesizers got you'all on now.

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<v Speaker 1>My little nigga, Y know that's crazy, that's great.

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<v Speaker 5>So you so you start yours at eleven, Start yours

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<v Speaker 5>at eleven where you got fruity loops, y'all got a

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<v Speaker 5>new computer. Guess because you didn't, you didn't burnt out

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<v Speaker 5>the house sample, it's time.

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<v Speaker 1>For you to make.

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<v Speaker 4>I was recording over my mom's consette tapes and ship

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<v Speaker 4>with my with my Ship and messing up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was wilding. But were you in your mind?

0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Were you were you searching for this place or were

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<v Speaker 2>you just trying to Just.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just making music because I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, it was very pure for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Pure pure ass can be like yeah, back then, I

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't have told you, you know, it was here exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just like, yo, I love this, Like there's

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<v Speaker 4>a feeling that I get when I do this I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not getting from anything else, So I'm gonna keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>How many years of noise are you making until you're yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I had a drum set, I'll say. Okay, I'll say

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<v Speaker 4>when I was eight nine, That's when I got my

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<v Speaker 4>first real drum set.

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<v Speaker 1>And then.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say up to.

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<v Speaker 4>Like twelve, I think nine to twelve I was making noise.

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<v Speaker 4>And then like thirteen and on is when it was like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh he kind of good.

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<v Speaker 1>You were sweet? Are you doing talent shows? Are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the band and you sang?

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<v Speaker 1>Have the girls okay discovered you yet? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>South Jersey absolutely. So this is what we would do.

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<v Speaker 3>We were in a group at the time, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is around.

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<v Speaker 1>The name of the group. We like to know the

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<v Speaker 1>names that this man.

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<v Speaker 4>This group had a few names because they had a

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<v Speaker 4>few members and it kept changing.

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<v Speaker 3>But first, we're not gonna let you get out of

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<v Speaker 3>telling this to no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no no, I'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you so so.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna just start here. We was it was a

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<v Speaker 4>new phase, new phase at one point. Then we changed

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<v Speaker 4>it to act one.

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<v Speaker 2>Act one okay, Act one started, start the movie. I

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<v Speaker 2>got okay, Acting one back one okay. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>changed to s J three South Jersey three.

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<v Speaker 1>It's straight three. Sounds like a sweatsuit, but I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>The new third edition drop next week. The boy edition

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:15.120
<v Speaker 2>play belt swayed. So yeah, J three obviously was three.

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<v Speaker 3>You got yeah, three of us and we would go

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<v Speaker 3>around to the mall.

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<v Speaker 4>We were doing sweet sixteens, but we were in that

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<v Speaker 4>era of like passing out the sex tape like cards

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<v Speaker 4>and like go to the mall and sing and and

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<v Speaker 4>then sometimes you circle back around after being in the

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<v Speaker 4>mall all day and you see.

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<v Speaker 3>Your fly on the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've been hanging out the trash be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was that was my childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you making some money off of it? Were you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit of money?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, not even for the parties?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, well no not really, not really.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just like hey, call, we want to perform, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>have them boys pull up and perform boys. They're pretty

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<v Speaker 4>good and they're gonna do it for free, so we

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<v Speaker 4>we pulled up.

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<v Speaker 3>It is exposure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember one time though, we pulled up because like

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<v Speaker 4>the music we was doing, right, we was never on

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 4>tho like hood ship.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't. I didn't grow up like in the hood.

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<v Speaker 4>So the music we was doing was kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>mixed between like you know, we we loved and sync, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously we loved like Boys to Men, we love New Edition,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was mixed.

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<v Speaker 1>We was getting our B two KO.

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 4>We were now and we were we were at some points,

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:40.199
<v Speaker 4>but we would we would make B.

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<v Speaker 3>Two K sound and records.

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<v Speaker 4>But then we would make really pop sound and records too,

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 4>you know, because YouTube's around was trying to you know,

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 4>sometimes trying to go viral and stuff like that. It

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<v Speaker 4>was like, we need to cover these songs, man, these

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 4>pop songs going up.

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<v Speaker 1>So all y'all black yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So we would go to so all right.

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<v Speaker 4>There's one specific time I remember it was a sweet

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen and and we was pulling up and one of

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:03.159
<v Speaker 4>the members like, yeah, I got this, you know, I

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 4>got this party, And they said we could perform. This

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 4>isn't that it's gonna be lit. We pull up and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, ship, we in.

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<v Speaker 1>The hood, the hood.

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<v Speaker 4>We pull up, you know, niggas outside, you know, and

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 4>this is a sweet sixteen and there's niggas outside that

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<v Speaker 4>look grown.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, this is the hood niggas.

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 1>The niggas about to perform.

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<v Speaker 2>No strings at jahn what yo.

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<v Speaker 4>So we get up on stage and we're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do our thing, and I just remember, and that's why

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 4>it built. It built character, because I remember niggas was

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 4>just like, man, turn that ship off, walking around like

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 4>so we was in formation, you know what I'm saying,

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 4>like the three member formation. Okay, somebody walked in between

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 4>our formation.

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<v Speaker 1>What you niggas gonna do? Right? We ain't?

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<v Speaker 4>We was like, and I'm a sing bro, I'm gonna

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 4>ahead and hit the dance moves around you. Y'all kept performing,

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 4>and we kept performing.

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 4>We kept love them professional and the girl loved it.

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:07.479
<v Speaker 4>She loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>The girl party that was for she loved it, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's all that matters. But I was like, yo, you're

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 3>gonna get jump.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't gonna try to sing.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just trying to just trying to do music.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro. So we got we got we gotta do better

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 2>as the people we got so aggressive.

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 1>We gotta do better. Oh you niggas want to sing?

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Can you fight?

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 4>Can you?

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Can you fight? Can you? My good at the car?

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>I think you're sweet. We gotta stop thinking sweet? Like

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>going together? And she wanted us to perform.

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 2>His explanations are what why.

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you here? Why you even here?

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>It's the sweet sixteen man. This is to walk to

0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 1>y'all said too, if y'all come in my neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 4>We wasn't we were doing originals, but like you know,

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 4>we were We weren't that crazy.

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>We wasn't about to go up there. But it had

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>a pop feel to it some of them. Yeah you

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>had a whole set.

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we had a little fifteen minutes. I'm gonna tell

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 4>you right now, out there dying for fifteen minutes, like,

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, bro, ship can't get over fast enough.

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I won't go home, go home.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Can't go home. But y'all stayed in it. That's good.

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So what happened to s J three?

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 6>So?

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean we eventually we met I think around the

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 4>time none of no, no, no no. You met me

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 4>a little bit afterwards, but Jazz ended up signing the

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 4>group I'm familiar with. I'm familiar with s J three.

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 4>So I meet Jazz. I met Jazz through a Marion. Okay,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you had already met Jazz before,

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 4>but I met Jazz through a Marion. We're working on

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 4>like the I Get It In and those records that we.

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Were doing for.

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and me and him got cool, and I remember

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Tank and I started working with some young fellas from Houston,

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>from Beaumont called a twelve tier, and me and Jazz

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 2>was in the studio and he's like, man, I got

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I got these I got these young niggas out of

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>out of out of Jersey. These niggas is cold, right,

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, Nigga, we got some young niggas we

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 2>fucking with, our nigga from your backyard.

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, if they if they're from Texas, I know,

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know. I found Drake. I'm like, that

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 1>does Drake has nothing? So what we're talking about.

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Jazz, put Drake's up right right right right.

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>So we're going back and forth.

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, nigga, why I'm gonna show you these niggas

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>YouTube the niggas used to do all the YouTube they

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 2>was cooking.

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 5>And then he showed me y'all and I said him,

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 5>so literally what I said to him, I said him,

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 5>what you mean him, M.

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>That's your guy? That's crazy. That was just my But

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that was just my opinion, right.

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 2>This is because in this business is subjective, right, It's

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 2>all about opinions and what you know resonates to you

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 2>and what you see that you attached to first just

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>and I and it could have been the group for

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 2>some people, but.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>For me personally, I saw you.

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>That nigga called.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 5>Fast forward to him being like you ever heard his

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 5>young nigga name? I said, nah, I never heard of him.

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And he shows me.

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 3>I said, that's a nigga from the group.

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, he fucking with Jazz. I said, oh,

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>he took him out the group.

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how, you know what I mean, I

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 5>don't know I transpired and what ended up happening, but

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, it was him to me.

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just my just my opinion.

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 4>And the crazy thing is I feel like everything happened

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 4>for a reason, of course, and they they my brothers.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 3>We liked this to this day.

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 4>And Desmond, that's one of the other members, he blew

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 4>up on some whole different.

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Ship, blew up big, just huge.

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 3>So did the other one on TikTok, And I'm like, see,

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 3>it was it was personality.

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>There was more about the personal and.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 4>It was it was like it was supposed to happen

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 4>that way, you know what I'm saying, And for me

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 4>to just do my thing and everybody do their thing.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's how I mean it split up. But I

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 3>think it worked out for the for the better for sure.

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everybody got moving exactly.

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>So what did.

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 5>You guys, because I never knew it from a group standpoint,

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 5>did you guys ever put out music as a group?

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 4>We we put out maybe there's like one EP that

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 4>we did and and that was it, like like and

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 4>just for real iTunes and stuff like that on DSPs

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 4>and that was it. And then we had got signed

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 4>after that to Jazz, So we were working like we

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 4>was working and working for a few years and it

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 4>just didn't happen that way. And then you know, they

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 4>some of the members went back home to New Jersey. One

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 4>of the members had his son, so he had he

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 4>had to be a dad, and it just kind of

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 4>just naturally just took his course.

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 3>So I was still out here at the time.

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 4>This is probably like I say, like twenty fifteen, and

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 4>that's when I was just in my writing and producing bag.

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Like twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, I was really just like

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 4>all right, you know, sometimes I'll be doing the group

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 4>stuff when he was a group, but I'll find time

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 4>when I was off and I'll just be like, yo,

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I got this idea, I got the latest. I gotta

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 4>make this song, right. So I made a whole ton

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 4>of songs, and what happened in that batch of songs

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 4>that I.

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Made was Liquor.

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Make Love stuff that landed with Chris and even on

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 4>the mixtape this song he got called come Home to

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 4>Night that I did, Eat It Up. I simpled Jana

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Jackson Escapade and like, those were those was the songs

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 4>that I was making, and.

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Those are your first placements.

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how do you get to Chris Jazz Jazz? Yeah,

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 4>So it was it was one night. So we we

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 4>just had to be like twenty fourteen, you did the

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 4>beat on Liquor co produced nasty. Yeah. It me and

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 4>my bro the Acuarus Aquarius nasty Yeah.

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 3>And you wrote it yep, naturally my room in Jersey.

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 4>I was home at the time, but yeah, okay, Jersey,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, right, appreciate you.

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Bro man.

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 4>And that was the one man that was the one

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 4>that really changed and changed everything for me.

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you were you able to it was okay.

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 5>So when that happened for you, you get this record,

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 5>you get your you get a hit record, you get

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 5>a record that everybody knows and everybody now.

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Knows you four. Do you feel like you fully.

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 5>Promoted that is in like, you know, going about making

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 5>a name for yourself.

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Or did you just let it happen.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 4>I didn't if I could rewind, because I don't regret anything,

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 4>But if I could rewind, I wish I did promote

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 4>in more of a business behind it, you know what

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying. At the time, it was like, oh, things

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 4>is happening, Like this is crazy, this is great shit.

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Let me keep creating, Let me keep creating, you know,

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 4>let me stay out studio rat, like studio Rat, y'are

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 4>sleeping in the studio just making music, like y'all. I

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 4>just got to make more music and then more things

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 4>like this will happen.

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Did you do a publishing deal anything? Nothing?

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh, pub deal nothing, Because in my mind I was like,

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 4>you know what, I'm gonna build up my catalog. I'm

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna build up my worth and then I'll do a

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 4>publil okay. But I really do wish that at that

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 4>time though that I was really like on on that socially,

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm.

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Saying, Like I did this on the business of it exactly.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 3>I wish I was outside and like, you know what I'm.

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Saying, because yeah, if you're if you're if if the

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 2>conversation has a face, not just the name, right, then

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 2>it makes the creative process in terms of getting to

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>artists and getting.

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>To A and R, is a whole lot easier.

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know you did the record two years later.

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't.

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know initially that you did the record until later.

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh shit, they like you know, Tom

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>wrote like Nigga had no idea he.

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Created that record.

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say, now I started, you know, start

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 4>promoting it now.

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 5>But you're still find it's still fine because it's you know,

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 5>it's about discovery and Rediscovery. But you know, I always

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 5>always wonder, you know, especially from for your generation, with

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 5>understanding what the self promotion is. You know, I and

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 5>I go, I go back to and I've mentioned him

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 5>a few times, Tyler the Creator when he's like, I

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 5>don't understand why people don't promote their stuff. You spend

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 5>all your time creating it, but then you only promote

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 5>it for the week that it's out, Like Nigga, No,

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.720
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't go away that you did that record.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, I'll still talk about a record I did twenty

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>years ago because I did it.

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:24.959
<v Speaker 5>I just did it, right, Yeah, why not? It's part

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 5>of you. It's your accomplishments. When we when we look

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 5>and see how many times Michael Jordan made the All

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 5>Star Game, they don't take away he still talk it's

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 5>a thirteen year All Star, it's fifteen whatever the lebron

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 5>been in the All Star Game twenty thousand times.

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>They all say name, right.

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.479
<v Speaker 5>Right, I mean it's like I'm saying on you know,

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 5>they're talking about the Bubble Championship. I said, yeah, and

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 5>I also celebrate all my adult league championships too, right,

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 5>wins wins, brother, Yeah, exactly, exact. You have wins, promote

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 5>those wins and for the for the artists, for the writers,

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 5>for the people that are watching. It's like when you

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 5>get your wins, man, talk about your wins, bro absolutely,

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 5>because these people will talk about your losses fast fast.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 1>They can't wait to tell to send your losses viral.

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Look look at when you looking at it? Somebody, come

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>look at this, somebody, I'm looking at this. Nigga fell

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>off stage. Been on thousand stages and didn't fall. But

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the one time you want to dance, you know what,

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>even doing.

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Amazing dancing all his life, why did he pull the

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 2>white man down to He tried to pull it. The

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>white man's just a casualty. He's like, he's like I

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>was holding on to him. Then I realized I was

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>about to pull him down to it. I said, I

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 2>can't do that. I gotta let him go. I gotta

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>let him go.

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 1>You gotta you have you have to stand in front

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>of it. Yeah, that has That was a.

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 4>Huge and I mean, I'm glad you're telling me this

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 4>because that was a huge lesson that.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I still like, I'm like, damn, could outside and outside

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>would have been different?

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 5>For real, for real, it's the thing when niggas is

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 5>when you know when you when you do go like

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 5>you said, you've been outside a little more when you

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 5>go outside and nigga.

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Like nigga, you wrote you're a liquor. That's the nigga

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>that wrote.

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 5>Because we don't understand sometimes too, when you put your

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 5>head down and you just work that those moments that

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 5>you may miss out by going to this such and

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 5>such event and you just happened to meet That's how

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 5>we end up meeting Cardiac.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Who produced when we for us just like that too randomly.

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:45.919
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even supposed to be there.

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>He don't even he didn't even make R and B beats.

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>He made rap beats. Yeah.

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like, I say, I said,

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 2>you can do R and B beats. Yeah, I make crazy.

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't make a crazy R and B beat nigga.

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 5>I make a crazy Cardiacy through an introduction through mutual friends,

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 5>through through through chasing cash and Matt McNeil being like,

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 5>oh this is our this was our o g amen

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 5>me and then hyping him up and we take they

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 5>take their word for it. And then now he sent

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 5>us a B pack if he don't show up to

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 5>that event. And we don't show up to that event,

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 5>we never get win we that's crazy.

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>When we from outside, we from outside place e p

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 2>L B P L E L on the rooftop outside.

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>If we don't go, it never happened. That record.

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 5>That's a life changing record for us, not just for him,

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 5>for us, for our business, for what we do. If

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 5>we don't go there, that dyke, you never get win.

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 3>We that's crazy. That's crazy.

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying you gotta be everywhere.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 2>It's it's something that just outside outside, but you have to.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 3>You have like you got to go to some stuff

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 3>for me.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm really understanding that, Like I'm in full like okay,

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 4>oh there's an event going on. Cool, let's let's pull up,

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, manager, Like, Yo, you need to be at

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 4>this cool, no problem, Like I'm there.

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 4>I wish because I was way younger back then too,

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 4>So it's just like, yo, I just really wish that

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 4>I was.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>He's still twelve. I would have fruity loose. You couldn't get.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I had fruity loose for breakfast.

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I was younger than.

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't even get in the right we wouldn't even

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 2>being able to meet you because you get it, like,

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 2>let it me in Hollywood, and that is the thing.

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood. Hollywood is like this right.

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 2>While you hot, while you you know, while you got

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 2>things cracking, like it's.

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Just to pull up and you only got to do a.

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Few of them.

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 2>You just got to pull up the right way, right

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 2>right to the right spots. Yeah, shake the right security

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 2>guys hand, shake the right club promoter's hand.

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Be introduced by the right person, be introduced by the

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 3>right person.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Up.

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, like jazz is the right person, the perfect person,

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 5>perfect person.

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Everybody with jazz, yeah, you know, everybody. And once you

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>do that and once they associated.

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:28.959
<v Speaker 3>He good, he's good.

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whatever he wants.

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:36.399
<v Speaker 2>And he's been hyping you from the beginning. Absolutely from

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. He called me early that's my dog.

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got this nigga exactly. Let's see what you're

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Don't know RMB take you know, I know

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>R and B. I love R and B.

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Man jazz R and B singer.

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 2>If you can say that what your whole RMV He

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 2>gets it, Yeah, understands it.

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>He knows his music. Yep.

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But that pull up is a different pull up

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 5>for you that you know and it's still you know

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 5>to this day, you can still utilize it. But for

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 5>the artists that are watching this and the writers that

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 5>are watching, it's like, yeah, when you get when you

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.839
<v Speaker 5>get that win, go celebrate that win a little bit

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 5>up pull up, yeah.

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Side.

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 2>So you got your fifth project coming out, right, So

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>let's just talk like exploration in terms of your first

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>four projects and what do you feel like you've learned.

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel like you've grown starting from project one.

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 4>So my first project dropped in twenty seventeen. It was

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 4>called Can We Talk? And I actually think that project

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 4>organically did amazing for me, Like it really did put

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 4>me on the map. I remember Drake actually came to

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 4>one of my rehearsals when I was getting ready to

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 4>go on tour with August I've seen it.

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 3>He was like, Nigga, that's incredible, bro, I can't do that.

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 4>You killing it and ship. So it was a it was

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 4>a crazy moment. But I know, as far as making

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 4>that project, it was a lot of just let me

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 4>just try something new, let me try something different, and

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 4>really just trying to find myself in music. I know

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm a huge fan of Michael a huge fan of Prince.

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 4>But I know at the time, you know, it was like,

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, Bryson had that crazy run with trap soul, and.

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:35.399
<v Speaker 3>I know in the industry that was the that was

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 3>the sound.

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying that if it wasn't if

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't sounding like that, then you know, he wasn't

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 4>getting played. So just using that as a bass, I

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 4>was really just trying to create in that box but

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 4>still have those elements of Mike and Prince and the

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 4>things that I love about music.

0:41:54.640 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 3>And so it was really you know that's the word.

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 4>I was really just exploring a lot learning. And then

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 4>the second project I dropped is called uh.

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Good Company.

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 4>And so after can We Talk, did this thing like

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 4>it made some noise and it was cool, and people

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 4>was like, Okay, Tony's on the radar. The singles would

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 4>let Me and I think the other song that did

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 4>really good was it's called Miss California, and so people

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 4>were like, all right, we heard them songs we love

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 4>let me, So then we do Good Company. And that's

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 4>the second second second yeap so I had I had

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 4>Sway Lee on that one, Quavo and Tie Dollar Sign,

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.919
<v Speaker 4>which was dope and.

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 3>That one same thing.

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.760
<v Speaker 4>It was like records that I had already and records

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 4>that we just created just randomly. But it was like, Okay,

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 4>this is sounding good as a group of music, you

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying, Like, let's let's make a little

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 4>project out of this and call it Good Company.

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 3>And I ain't gonna lie though.

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 4>One of my favorite songs is on that song on

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 4>that project called ticket There, and that's what Tie Dollars signed,

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 4>And I think that one really, like I don't know,

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:19.800
<v Speaker 4>it just had his own life, it still has his

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 4>own life. So that one was still still trying to

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 4>find myself, still growing still, like okay, I'm you know,

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm still experimenting. I know you're putting these out through

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 4>the label YEP, it's all through RCA.

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 3>But their only mixtapes, Yeah, just.

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 4>EPs EP though EPs Yeah, yeah, not like but not official,

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:39.760
<v Speaker 4>not official album.

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Well could letting you build but not counting towards necessarily

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 2>your album exactly.

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 4>It was just like, let's let's let him figure it out,

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 4>let's let him find himself.

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so put those out.

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was good.

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Good Company was twenty eighteen, so twenty seventeen twenty eighteen,

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 4>back to back.

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So then.

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 4>Damn, I don't know if I shared it, I don't know, see,

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 4>but it was very it was real ironic that we

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 4>had that conversation with Sean and because in twenty nineteen,

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 4>I'll just say this, that year it almost felt like

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 4>everything was going like this, and then it just started

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 4>doing this, just like I was just like, what the

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 4>fuck is going on? Bro, shit, It's just feels stagnant.

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 4>It feels like I don't feel like I'm growing like

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 4>it just you know, in the business, it was a

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 4>lot of things going on, a lot of confusion, a

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 4>lot of new managers and management coming in and going out,

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, just like, what the fuck? Like

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 4>that was probably one of the worst years that I had,

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 4>like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen into twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 4>and I really felt like the label was gonna drop me.

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 4>I felt like they was gonna drop me twenty nineteen.

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 6>So.

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I hit up so I go on tour with her

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 4>in twenty eight team So shout out Jeff and MBK.

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 4>They allowed me to go on tour with her, and I,

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 4>you know, really got to be around them. And be

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 4>around Jeff and see how everybody operate. They got to

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 4>learn about me and my situation and you know what

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 4>was going on. So when that moment hit in twenty nineteen,

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 4>I didn't have a manager anymore and my situation was

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 4>kind of just in the air.

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know what the label was about to do me.

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 4>So I hit up Jeff and Jason and I'm just like, yo,

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't have any management. My back is

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 4>against the wall. I don't have a good feeling about

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 4>my situation. I don't know what's about to happen. I

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 4>feel like I'm about to get dropped and I need help.

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 4>And Jason was like, Okay, let me talk to Jeff,

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 4>let me see what's up.

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 3>And literally after that.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 4>Came back to me and was like, yo, Jeff said

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:59.360
<v Speaker 4>he's down to manage you. So from the end of

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 4>twenty nineteen till now you know, NBK got involved, Jason

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:09.839
<v Speaker 4>got involved, Jazz still involved, and it just started doing this,

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 4>started going back up, we started getting traction again, and

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:17.239
<v Speaker 4>then we dropped the project Fuck with Me. So Fuck

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 4>with Me was like it was cool because now I

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 4>felt like I had a team that was really taking

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 4>the time to make me.

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Figure out who I was. Before that, I was just I.

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 4>Had the mindset of a writer and a producer, so

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 4>I was never really tapped into the artist artists mindset.

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know how to be an artist until recently.

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 4>So it was like, Yo, just I'm gonna make songs.

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm a studio, right, I'm gonna just make these songs.

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna make that one. But I wasn't being an artist,

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 4>and so when Fuck with Me came, it was.

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.919
<v Speaker 3>Really like, Yo, what do you want to say? Who

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.399
<v Speaker 3>do you want to be? Like you can?

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.360
<v Speaker 4>You have this freedom? You got this freedom?

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>You just you gotta just do it.

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:02.800
<v Speaker 4>So we dropped Fuck with Me. And it's crazy because

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.959
<v Speaker 4>that record did really good for me. It like caught

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:07.799
<v Speaker 4>on and people. That was the first time in my

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 4>life where I started to go out in public and

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 4>people be like, hey, you fuck with Me guy, like,

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, the fuck with the name of the song, guy,

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 4>it's crazy to me, Like I never got that, Like

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 4>you're the fuck with Me guy, and I'm like, that's new.

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 4>So we dropped Fuck with Me. Then we dropped in

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 4>that same year, we dropped the Part two. He was

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 4>like fuck it, let's just we got some songs together.

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Fuck it, let's just keep going. We got this momentum going.

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 4>And what's crazy is me and Chris would do I Ever?

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 4>And you heard that song at Jazz's holl way back

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 4>in like twenty seventeen. We had cut this song a

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 4>while ago and never like could figure out the right

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 4>time to drop it.

0:47:51.160 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 8>Drop me, that's crazy, Brog about cash your name nigga?

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Right now? How much price? Full price?

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 3>What's full price?

0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't worry about.

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Just know when we full love, we're gonna do whatever

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 2>we got to do to get in there and support

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 2>our guy.

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate y'all. Man, I don't know, man, Tank, he's

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 3>been rocking with me.

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 4>I remember playing Do I Ever for him in the

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 4>studio for the first time.

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I remember you saying, what the fuck you doing?

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Bro?

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 4>Literally that was that was it the you're doing, Bro,

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 4>That's the biggest song in R and B.

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I just believe in and and like, you know, I know,

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I know you guys are I know the approach you're taking.

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. It's it's a stepping stones

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:48.760
<v Speaker 2>and building blocks. It's it's to grow in the audience

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and and and you know it's it's organic.

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad at it.

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I love it. But that song right there could have

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 2>had a budget behind it and went to radio mm

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 2>hmmm mm hmmm, and went crazy. I know it. Can't

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:14.360
<v Speaker 2>tell me nothing different, can't tell me nothing different. I

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 2>get it, I get me.

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I'm I'm gonna respect your process.

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:21.240
<v Speaker 4>Bro, I agree.

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 2>But I'm telling you, I don't know who didn't hear it,

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 2>who didn't see it? You said, I said, I said, right,

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll say this yep, yep, literally literally, are you holding

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 2>this bomb?

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 3>This bomb of a record bomb?

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Yep?

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, listen, listen, you're in the business of writing hit records.

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>You will make another one that keep going, yes, keep going?

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 2>What you got over there, chief, what I got like this?

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:56.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Come on now, come on now, brother.

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Tone You're young, but come on now.

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Your journeys from the church house to the R and

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 2>B Club, you've been able to develop some favorites.

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. You R and B people want to know,

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>if they want to want to know, come on, your.

0:50:46.440 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 6>Top five, your top five, top five, your top five?

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Who else? All the songs we all to know? You

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>got to show tell us you know, we want to

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>love you. Top lujah.

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 9>Wow your.

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah I was nasty.

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah yeah that'st you, brother, Yeah yeah yeah.

0:51:56.440 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 4>All right, your top five R and B singers. All right,

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 4>can look at my list. I made a little list.

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 1>You can talk at your list. What do you mean?

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>What you know? Time? All right, your hour, dude, you

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 1>want to do all right? So look.

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 4>Top five artists. Mm hmmmm. At the five playing Center,

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 4>I got Chris Brown. At the four power forward, I

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 4>got Usher.

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:39.319
<v Speaker 1>At guard.

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:49.879
<v Speaker 3>Or small forward, I got Whitney Houston shooting guard. I'm

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:55.359
<v Speaker 3>Michael Jackson. And at the point I got Prince.

0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Game Game and then and then the substitute. Six Man

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 4>of the Year, six women of the Year. I should

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.240
<v Speaker 4>say it's Patty LaBelle.

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Six women of the Year.

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep, pattle the base to sing that somewhere over the

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 2>rainbow m.

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I went on too paid LaBelle.

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Of course you did right, amazing, spilled a little champagne

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.479
<v Speaker 1>if you don't mind. It was baby Face.

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I opened for the baby Face Wow, the Old Jays

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:29.320
<v Speaker 2>and Petty Label.

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 4>That's gold status bro, and the ghost called me to

0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:34.439
<v Speaker 4>do it as a faith.

0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Wow. That guy that guy. It's one of my my

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 1>one flex for the night.

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a great five. Okay, go to your let's go

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 2>to your top five R and B songs.

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>M I like it. I did, I did.

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 4>I was in the car, I was like, hold up

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 4>to write this out all right at center M we

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 4>Got Silly by Denise Williams.

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:00.360
<v Speaker 1>That's at the five in me.

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Wow, yep, oh yeah, that's the I don't know. Every

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 4>time I hear that song, it hit me different. I'll say,

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:12.320
<v Speaker 4>I'll say this.

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:14.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, let me stay on track.

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 4>Power Forward, love and Need and Want, Patti LaBelle, Yeah,

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 4>small four, we got you Got It Bad? And I

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 4>think with Usher you could put you could put you

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 4>Got a Bad Burn superstar in that. You could just

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 4>interchange them in that to me, okay, and I'm gonna

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:44.800
<v Speaker 4>keep it consistent. So after two like I want to

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 4>be a lover Prince hm hmm, that's all.

0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I changed, my life, changed my life. At what age

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 3>do you discover I want to be a you know what?

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 4>I first heard of Mike and Prince when I was

0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:02.680
<v Speaker 4>eight years old. I knew I knew Mike's music before Prince,

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.759
<v Speaker 4>but the first thing that I've seen a Prince was

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 4>is a Sign of the Times tour movie. So my

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 4>dad used to watch that and when I'll you know

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 4>that weekends, I'll be with him.

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Just it resonated with your soul.

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, bro, you didn't know.

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 1>You didn't know why.

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:25.439
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know, no idea what I didn't know why

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 4>he was like that man was up there going.

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Imagine going to school the next day Monday. You left

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.240
<v Speaker 2>your pops hops on Sunday on that Monday walking class.

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 4>Hey girl, hot hot Dan, what's your fantasy.

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I wish one of them little niggas would running from

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:58.239
<v Speaker 2>my daughter singing that hot her daddy coming to the

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.680
<v Speaker 2>schoolhouse and I'll hit.

0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:07.759
<v Speaker 1>A kid up shopping you up at number one.

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 4>I got rocked with you, Michael Jackson. I think that's

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 4>probably one of the greatest songs of all time.

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, you saw a groove, a boogie, all of it,

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:33.840
<v Speaker 2>all of that girl.

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Closure rest.

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 2>That's a code open line because I can go anywhere

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to anyway, hold on anywhere.

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, it's like go anywhere.

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 6>Listen.

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a lyric and I want to know

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 1>where you're going with this. Hold on, watch.

0:56:55.920 --> 0:57:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Whoa nothing nothing.

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Relaxed heads. Next to let's make your vote trying.

0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Is let's uh hm hmm, let's make your super r

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 3>and b artists.

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Who you're getting the vocal from, Who are you getting

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the performance style from? Who are you getting the styling from,

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Who are you getting the passion of the artists from,

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and who's writing and producing for that artist? Here we go,

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's start with the vocal. Who getting the vocal from?

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Getting the vocal from me?

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Come on, I'm gonna keep the vocal vocal. I want

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to sing the song.

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to sing the goddamn damn.

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen. I'm David the Temptations.

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna keep my voice.

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Performing style Mike, Yeah, Mike different, Mike different, electric.

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Styling, Prince, Prince, Now.

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna wear the ship with the ass cut out.

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 1>You can't say that. I don't say that. Yes he can,

0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:21.720
<v Speaker 1>he can't.

0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Wait because it's there's there's different.

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:26.680
<v Speaker 1>You either won't, Prince, or you won't or you don't.

0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:28.280
<v Speaker 3>There's different error.

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 1>You just want to see be sitting button on the horse,

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 1>or you don't. You could be you can be the slave.

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 1>You can't pick a prince be the artist. You either

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 1>prince or not.

0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about Sign of the Times. Prince.

0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:44.640
<v Speaker 1>You can't pick a prince? Why not? I can't figure error?

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>He picked the prince you want to be?

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:46.400
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get to pick the prince he wanted to

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 1>be Prince the all time.

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:57.360
<v Speaker 4>Would be his artist, formally known as the eighty seven Prince.

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Bro course is crazy. You don't.

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:06.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm not wearing chaps.

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not wearing.

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 6>Who.

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 1>You're getting the passion of the artists wrong?

0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Yo, you know what passion? I'm gonna go with Aretha Franklin.

0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:32.439
<v Speaker 4>Why not Aretha Franklin, Bro Franklin sweating sweat all over

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 4>that Piana Piana?

0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, a different type of passion? Yeah?

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Who's writing and producing for this artist?

0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:44.920
<v Speaker 4>Can I split the right? I'm gonna take a different

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:48.440
<v Speaker 4>approach and I'm gonna I'm gonna be creative with I'm

0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:52.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna say Frank Ocean as a writer, say Frank Ocean

0:59:52.280 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 4>as a writer and then producer. I'm gonna say salam Remy.

1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:05.920
<v Speaker 5>Michael Jackson dancing to some salame Remy written by Frank

1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:07.800
<v Speaker 5>Ocean sang By you.

1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Know, no, Clami, I'm gonna say Salam, salamis am. Come on,

1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:19.960
<v Speaker 2>come onto the podcast, puld you know what it is.

1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I will pull up to your villa.

1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll pull up to you wherever you recorded all this amazing?

1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, fal trying. I like you, Yes, sir.

1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:33.360
<v Speaker 6>H.

1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Black kid, black kids.

1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Heard a white kid.

1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:48.439
<v Speaker 2>I ain't saying no nick, ain't saying no necks, ain't

1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:50.840
<v Speaker 2>saying no names.

1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:59.520
<v Speaker 9>Are what you mean? Don't say I ain't saying no.

1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh man, I'm on we here, brother, Yeah, we

1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:15.720
<v Speaker 2>know you watched the podcast. Yeah yeah, yeah, right now

1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:18.960
<v Speaker 2>we needed we needed an important segment.

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<v Speaker 5>I ain't saying no names. Will you tell us that

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<v Speaker 5>story funny or fucked up? You know, maybe a R

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<v Speaker 5>and B podcast nigga showed up to your show and

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<v Speaker 5>had to pay Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright, all right, but you don't say that nigga name. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know the litenants game. You don't say no names.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And our new thing is you can tell us one

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<v Speaker 2>or two. It's up to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, okay, I'll start off with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a d M.

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<v Speaker 1>One day always starts there. Young niggas they get d M.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a deal one day.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean for me. I was like, yo, you know

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<v Speaker 3>this person hit me up. I mean she like certified,

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<v Speaker 3>Like okay, okay, blue check.

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<v Speaker 1>This is her?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah blue check on social media and in real

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<v Speaker 5>life and we're like, this is her, Okay, it's her,

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<v Speaker 5>She's her, you know, pull up to the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm working on this song and I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>be a.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to help write it. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh shit, let's hell, yeah, I'm there.

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<v Speaker 4>I just had copped the E thirty, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety BMW drop top convertible.

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<v Speaker 1>Just copped it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, let me put on. I'm coming

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<v Speaker 4>to impress the pull up game.

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<v Speaker 3>I was on my ship.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro let me let me get my ship right. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm hopping in the car, got over three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 4>plus miles.

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<v Speaker 3>I really shouldn't be driving this. It's not even registered

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<v Speaker 3>in my name.

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<v Speaker 1>I just bought it.

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<v Speaker 4>I shouldn't should get the title and ship, but I'm driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to impress. You gotta pull up.

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<v Speaker 4>My license plates is connected to a nigga name.

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<v Speaker 3>One so not even men. So you know I'm pulling

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<v Speaker 3>up out here in Hollywood. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So I get down here, I'm here, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>She hissed me.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, I'm not I'm not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 4>make it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're good.

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<v Speaker 3>Me with me and this person good, there's nothing but good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're good.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna be able to make it today. But

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<v Speaker 4>the producers there, so just going with him and y'all

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<v Speaker 4>finished di record and I'm like, all right, perfect, cool,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not even tripping. All right, I'm not gonna see her.

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<v Speaker 3>You put all your smell goods on for your you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to use half the bottle. It's about the sound.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about it's about the end of the day, at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the beginning, because in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, okay, go ahead, So you know, she sent me

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<v Speaker 3>the producer. I'm gonna cool. Hit him up.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey bro, I'm here, I'm at the I'm at the studio,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit him. Ten minutes go by, Oh shit, no response.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, all right, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, maybe maybe bro busy working, maybe eating lunch, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. Twenty minutes, starting to think I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's a little weird, but I mean the

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity is, the opportunity is great.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I'm I'm gonna stick around, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty five minutes, I'm like, the fuck is going on?

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<v Speaker 4>So at this point I'm just like, damn, bro, Like

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, yo, hit him back. I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>double texting now. You know, it's just me in the

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<v Speaker 4>message now. So I'm like, hey, you know, if I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna leave, you know what I'm saying. If you know

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<v Speaker 4>you ain't saying nothing. You know, I'm I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 4>back to the valley, bro, Like you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>long drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Say shit.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was there for an hour in my drop top, chilling.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm all right, cool, I'm leaving, bro, Get on

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<v Speaker 4>the highway, get back on the one on one north.

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<v Speaker 4>He assed me, like, oh, Bro, I didn't see I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't see the text. I didn't see my phone go off.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, well, I'm going, Bro. I was down

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<v Speaker 4>here for an hour, right. So then fast forward later

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<v Speaker 4>on in the week, I talked to a certain A

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<v Speaker 4>and R at the time, and I was like, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was supposed to do a session with so and so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, she.

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<v Speaker 4>Told me to pull up and you know, I was

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<v Speaker 4>excited or whatever, and it was you know, it's cool,

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<v Speaker 4>it didn't happen, but you know, this was this is

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<v Speaker 4>probably I'm gonna just say that.

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<v Speaker 3>This was like Thursday, and he was like, oh, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and let me rewind.

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<v Speaker 4>She said, you know, I'm not feeling good, so you

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<v Speaker 4>know that that was the reason why she didn't come.

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<v Speaker 3>I was all right, cool, understandable.

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<v Speaker 1>I kid it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I see a certain day in r I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>she said she wasn't feeling good that day. He's like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 4>that's funny because I seen her that same day eating

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<v Speaker 4>chicken outside somewhere and I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, cool damn.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's how it went. So that was that's just

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<v Speaker 4>the that's one of the stories.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, damn, bro, that was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever connect with the producer.

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<v Speaker 3>Never after after that? After I was there for an hour, bro?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. Did she ever say like, oh, come back tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro?

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<v Speaker 4>And then when the crazy part of the Dagger through

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<v Speaker 4>the Heart was that the song came out and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like that she was supposed to write on I

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<v Speaker 4>was supposed to be on this song.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you knew the song that she was supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be on. Everything did it go big?

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<v Speaker 1>It was? It was?

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<v Speaker 4>It was?

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<v Speaker 3>It was pretty good good. That was the dagger though.

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<v Speaker 1>That was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I do something?

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<v Speaker 3>I pulled up and eat thirty brou.

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<v Speaker 4>I was expected too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing too much. Niggas looked at the little thing said, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, nah, he got his rig, James, Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was one.

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<v Speaker 3>But me and the person we cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That was.

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<v Speaker 4>That was years ago. It's just funny now. And then alright,

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<v Speaker 4>so another crazy story. This then happened to me, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was it was crazy to witness this. So there

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<v Speaker 4>is a certain somebody that I was on tour with

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not gonna lie, bro. This person was just

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<v Speaker 4>he was just mean. Bro, he was just mean. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I was on the whole tour and never met the man.

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<v Speaker 4>Hhmm crazy. So one of these days, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what city we was in, but you know it was cool.

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<v Speaker 4>We always in the like the little hall loading dock,

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<v Speaker 4>loading dock hallway and there's all this commotion going on outside,

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<v Speaker 4>so we like, what the fuck is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>So we see him, the person walk in, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's mad.

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<v Speaker 4>He pushing everybody fuck out my way and this, this

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<v Speaker 4>and that and calling people bitches and holes and.

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<v Speaker 3>To funk out my way. And I kid you not.

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<v Speaker 4>I seen this person spit on a woman security guard

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, bro, I used to look up

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<v Speaker 4>to you, and I don't care how bad the situation is.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not spitting on no woman like that's just for

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<v Speaker 4>just she doing her job. And that's That's just one

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<v Speaker 4>of them fucked up stories that I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>I will never act like that ever, ever, ever.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why people be like, don't change, don't change.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, trust me, don't worry about it, because I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen some ship that I did not want to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I know what that's like, and I've seen how everybody

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<v Speaker 4>in the room is just kind of like the fuck, like,

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<v Speaker 4>so shit, I'm gonna leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I ain't saying names on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's real. Yeah m hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Look, I'll do one more. I'll do one more

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<v Speaker 4>to get rid of that one so this one's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of funny though. I was on tour with another person

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<v Speaker 4>and this is around the time where they was they

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<v Speaker 4>was blowing up, there was popping, and this was like

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<v Speaker 4>my first solo gig away from the group, first show.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're down in Houston and it's crazy because, like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I dance, So I was training at this

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<v Speaker 4>this dance studio called so Real Dance Studio, and we

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<v Speaker 4>were prepping for this show.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm the opening act, but we like prepping and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>That Warehouse Live.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I don't know if you know Warehouse

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<v Speaker 4>Live or how big the stage is, but it's pretty big.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm the opening act. But we prepping have like

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<v Speaker 4>thirty dancers on stage. Like it's like, oh, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>go crazy. We're gonna go all out. We in Houston,

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<v Speaker 4>we jazz, you know, we in the city. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>go crazy. Ooh, We're going all out.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>It was you know, so that week and rehearsal week,

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<v Speaker 4>hitting the ship. You know what I'm saying, combinations, you

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<v Speaker 4>got girls coming over here, you got the dudes coming over.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, big, this big production right.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So we get we get to the show, date.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is amazing. Before the show, sound check incredible, Oh tone,

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<v Speaker 4>you sound good. People coming up, Oh my god, bro,

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<v Speaker 4>who are you? Drake sends me a gift and that's

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<v Speaker 4>not the name drop, but Drake sends me a gift.

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<v Speaker 4>He sends me some some Ovo Ovo tens.

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<v Speaker 3>Signed it, wrote a note. I'm like, damn, this is

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<v Speaker 3>fucking dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like this, my life is changing. My life is changing.

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<v Speaker 3>Get on stage, and.

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<v Speaker 4>A certain somebody there's there's two people in the story

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm not gonna name. For A certain somebody from

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<v Speaker 4>an R and B group that's very well known, advised me,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you, though.

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<v Speaker 4>Advised me to drink olive oil before before my set.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, just drink drink some olive oil. It's going

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Clear you up.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know me, it's just the first time without

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<v Speaker 4>the group. I'm nervous, you know what I'm saying. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>fuck it, I want to be at my top of

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<v Speaker 4>my game.

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<v Speaker 3>Drank the olive oil. So it comes down to perform.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, all right, my throat feel hot, Paul, my

1:12:04.240 --> 1:12:08.200
<v Speaker 4>throat feel hot. I'm just like, all right, cool, whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm out there, you're performing. I tell you, I

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<v Speaker 4>was not hitting my notes, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like I was trying and it was slipping.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I wasn't catching no good notes. Man Like, it

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<v Speaker 4>just wasn't happening for me. We out there, all the dances,

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<v Speaker 4>come out, performing and.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to just do it a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I get to this break in my set, probably had

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<v Speaker 4>like twenty minutes, get to this breaking my set and

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<v Speaker 4>the crowd. I'm just talking and trying to introduce myself.

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<v Speaker 4>The crowd starts cheering the person's name that I'm opening

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<v Speaker 4>up for. It's too syllable, so they're like, Dad, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I can't fucking believe this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, as much as I was nervous that

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<v Speaker 4>that was happening, I got upset and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>y'all gonna see so and so after I'm done performing,

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<v Speaker 4>I know who y'all came to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Did not see this ship.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty answers, which finished, gave me these he nailed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo, and they let me finish my set. They let

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<v Speaker 3>me let me finish my set.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, bro, that was a that was a crazy

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<v Speaker 4>experience gave me the gave this is great.

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<v Speaker 3>Drake gave me these man y'all, y'all let me finish.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all not understand what happened for me today.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I got upset.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't you they didn't boom me. But but that's

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<v Speaker 4>not a boom. Yes, but it's just it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just a bad kind of a book. It's just as

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<v Speaker 4>bad kind of you start said, it's and it's a

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<v Speaker 4>two syllable name, like you could really get a chair.

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<v Speaker 1>On like that, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like getting off the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, yeah, bro, I've been there, brother. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great, that's great. I love it happens to the

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<v Speaker 1>best of us. Bill's character Bill, oh no, tests your character.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, if I got your health character there, it is

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<v Speaker 7>turned you into a villain in that moment.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember when we were performing for that Sweet sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>and Niggas O ship. So I said, that can't be

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<v Speaker 4>worse than that.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't be working at least I know I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to make it home right right, right, you're right niggas

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<v Speaker 2>walking to your get on stage and walk through your.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah fifty, when the Niggas walked to your it's crazy bro.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh no, brother Tom, listen, man, you

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<v Speaker 2>know we love you, man, Man, thank you God, I

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<v Speaker 2>love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for pulling up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got to pull up in here with the

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<v Speaker 2>new you know, with the new pop already, man that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for that. I'm excited for you. Man, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. You know, You're just You're just, You're just

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<v Speaker 2>adopt It was an amazing talent man and a great

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<v Speaker 2>human being. It starts there, so you know, in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, in terms of this business that goes

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<v Speaker 2>a long way. Yes, it's gonna go a lot further.

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<v Speaker 1>Than your records. Gotch being a good guy. It will

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<v Speaker 1>sustain you. When you're not the hottest, they will prefer you.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good though.

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<v Speaker 2>I like him piece Yeah yeah, trust me, stay there,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm there.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't got worried about me doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Valentine.

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<v Speaker 1>H youth a cooking. He's right here and it's evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Next the nights, mister Tumbstick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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