Speaker 1: R and B Money.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 1: Than take Valichi. We are the authorities R and B.
Speaker 1: Lady is gentleman.
Speaker 2: My name is Tank Valentine. This is the Ry Money
Speaker 2: podcast authority on all things R and B. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: old and new and in between and in between.
Speaker 1: We tapped in, We.
Speaker 2: Tapped in, We tapped into the culture.
Speaker 3: Still brought all of it.
Speaker 2: We brought some of the youth into the building tonight.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we're talking about musicianship. We're talking
Speaker 2: about sanging. We're talking about we're talking about you were
Speaker 2: playing whatever instrument want to play?
Speaker 1: Huh it's hair? Nice? Is that nice? Pants to thank y'all?
Speaker 2: What man?
Speaker 1: Some bro? How you feeling rather?
Speaker 3: I'm blessed, but I can't complain.
Speaker 4: About to drop a project?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, so everything is good.
Speaker 1: You're about to drop a project.
Speaker 4: I am about to drop a project.
Speaker 1: And which project is the which number project is this?
Speaker 3: This is so?
Speaker 1: How many projects have you dropped?
Speaker 3: I haven't dropped any official album?
Speaker 1: And if number, how many projects have you dropped?
Speaker 2: Mixed tapes that I like to call it, Tom It's
Speaker 2: gonna be my fifth one, your fifth one? So so so, Jay,
Speaker 2: let's just make a note of this. Okay, so be
Speaker 2: his fifth uh entry into into the musical universe that
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 1: Not part of it anyway. Background something, yeah something, background snatch.
Speaker 3: Even on records.
Speaker 2: Literally like you look on a line of those niggasy
Speaker 2: snap who sadly I'd like to be involved.
Speaker 1: Bro, Well you already know. Sometimes so we.
Speaker 4: Listen, you'll be out of the country though sometimes.
Speaker 2: I'm only out of the country once a year.
Speaker 1: It's in July. We can plan around.
Speaker 4: I'm back, I'm back to tonight tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: I think it's like and I think for what we
Speaker 2: are is like we're you know, we're the bridges, and
Speaker 2: we're always trying to just make and keep the connection.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: As you are, as you are in the space where
Speaker 2: you are building your new R and B career, we
Speaker 2: are just guys that.
Speaker 1: Would just love to help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, that's all. We don't need nothing from you.
Speaker 2: What we require is that.
Speaker 3: You kill them.
Speaker 2: Absolutely all we care about, Okay, and we're gonna put
Speaker 2: the battery, the battery in your back.
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 1: He was performing somewhere the other days.
Speaker 3: Man, I want to go pull up on it, I said,
Speaker 3: called it was a vibe.
Speaker 1: It it was a vibe. I hit him.
Speaker 3: I said he had he had posted that he was
Speaker 3: gonna be in l A.
Speaker 1: I hit him.
Speaker 5: I said, send me the info. He send me the info.
Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, this ship is far.
Speaker 3: That's fun.
Speaker 1: It's fun, you know what, for the love R and B.
Speaker 1: For the love of R and B, I'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna pull up on a young fella because for me,
Speaker 5: I've been a fan from afar of just appreciating the
Speaker 5: music that you were putting out, and just from having
Speaker 5: conversations with other industry insiders as they would call him
Speaker 5: that have always spoken so highly of you as well,
Speaker 5: and and just and meeting you in past. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: it's a really nice dude. I'm supporting you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm supporting him. So I was like, you
Speaker 5: know what, I'm gonna take the ride. I'm go out
Speaker 5: there and see what he do, and then you would
Speaker 5: work the trip, appreciate short performance, you know what I
Speaker 5: Mean's like, yeah, I'm just going up for you know,
Speaker 5: about ten minutes, fifteen minutes. But I got to see
Speaker 5: from stage presence to uh vocally the way you handled
Speaker 5: the crowd, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, because it wasn't.
Speaker 2: At first, I thought it was a show as well,
Speaker 2: Like I didn't know, you know, I didn't know that
Speaker 2: the full spectrum of you know, what the event.
Speaker 1: Was going to be.
Speaker 5: But that didn't matter to me because I was I
Speaker 5: was coming to support some thinking I'm just I'm going
Speaker 5: to a show. But then I'm like, okay, he's it's
Speaker 5: like a.
Speaker 2: Venue, outdoor vibe party, kick it, but some performance.
Speaker 1: And that's not always easy for artists, absolutely, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, like having conversations, I mean like
Speaker 2: like singing, why people are having conversations and parts of
Speaker 2: the cabody right right, right right.
Speaker 3: That's real that.
Speaker 2: You were able to command that crowd. You were able
Speaker 2: to zone in.
Speaker 5: In into you know, into the audience and really locking
Speaker 5: with them and and and get.
Speaker 1: Your ship off.
Speaker 5: And I just appreciated that, man, because I feel like
Speaker 5: we're lacking, especially in mail R and B. We're lacking
Speaker 5: presence and we're lacking man hours. M hm, okay, we're
Speaker 5: lacking man hours because I because here's the other funny part.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna tell you there. I take you today.
Speaker 3: They made me pay what that made me pay?
Speaker 1: I haven't paid for anything or any kind of meaning
Speaker 1: stopping me and.
Speaker 2: Podcast nigga the music you be doing niggah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get I.
Speaker 5: Get to I get to the door, and the guy
Speaker 5: I think I probably still have because I paid with
Speaker 5: cash app, so I got that nigga name in my
Speaker 5: phone charged me.
Speaker 1: Are you serious? He said, yeah, you know the list
Speaker 1: hasn't been working. Yo, No, this hasn't been working. It
Speaker 1: hasn't been working. Why he thought that one? That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I came to support I spent my money too. Bro.
Speaker 3: You should have told me.
Speaker 2: Bro, But that's lambing about it now, Like no, but
Speaker 2: like no nigga, like I had a full thing, like
Speaker 2: where I He's like, yeah, so it's gonna be oh yeah,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Cool, that's cool. Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 5: But listen, Wow, I came to support you. I wasn't
Speaker 5: gonna be like, yeah, well you let me hit to
Speaker 5: right now. I'ven I got crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That just made.
Speaker 4: Because I said, like, I can show you the list,
Speaker 4: said it was prepared.
Speaker 2: He said, he said that they was. They was having
Speaker 2: a problem that's that's figured out right, and real niggas
Speaker 2: don't hit you when they stuck outside, They're like, listen,
Speaker 2: figure this thing out quick. And I hollered my guy
Speaker 2: like what but like, hey man, you going on stage.
Speaker 2: I'm not about to be.
Speaker 3: Like hey man, they got me at the door, right right,
Speaker 3: right right. I appreciate you with that.
Speaker 1: I can't believe they charge Yeah, they charged me. They
Speaker 1: charged me. I charged y'all, y'all hear this charge people
Speaker 1: people that.
Speaker 2: That's probably why I'm not shouting at the event either.
Speaker 2: Niggas charged me, You're gonna do this to me?
Speaker 6: To me.
Speaker 4: From I'm from Jersey, from Jersey, yep, Marlton, New Jersey, Marlton.
Speaker 4: That's that's in the trees, bro. I'm down south, like
Speaker 4: thirty minutes from Philly, so.
Speaker 1: Close to Philly. Yeah, okay, yeah yeah? Is that the roots?
Speaker 2: Is that the is that the is that the starting
Speaker 2: from from Philly?
Speaker 4: My mom's from Burlington and I went to church in
Speaker 4: Philly too, so I think that's.
Speaker 1: That would drive to church?
Speaker 4: Ye yeah, yeah, yep, minutes a whole another state, right right,
Speaker 4: but it was it is right there.
Speaker 3: It's a bridge away. But yeah, that's why I got
Speaker 3: every thing from I grew.
Speaker 4: Up in trial was always at church, Bro. I was
Speaker 4: church Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. My mom worked at the
Speaker 4: church and then was on the choir. So I was
Speaker 4: there Saturday Sunday. Just I had no choice to be
Speaker 4: around music and to learn.
Speaker 1: So, so was your mother and father involved in the church?
Speaker 1: Is just your mother?
Speaker 4: So my dad he was a drummer for a while,
Speaker 4: and then and then he stopped playing drums. And then
Speaker 4: my mom she continued to sing on the choir and
Speaker 4: then directed the choir.
Speaker 3: So I was there, bro traveling.
Speaker 1: On when did you get your solo?
Speaker 4: When did you you know what's crazy? I was shy
Speaker 4: as a kid. I did not want to sing in
Speaker 4: front of nobody. I didn't even sing in front of her.
Speaker 4: When she asked me, I'd be like, I'm good, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna play the drums. So you're a drummer, Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I started that three.
Speaker 1: That's your first? That my first love? Are you nice? Nice?
Speaker 3: I'm nice?
Speaker 1: I'm nice like Tony Royster nice.
Speaker 3: See that's another level.
Speaker 1: Are you better? Are you better than Anderson Pack?
Speaker 4: He's a pocket?
Speaker 1: You know what? Though?
Speaker 3: I would like I would like for us to have
Speaker 3: a drummer.
Speaker 2: Off and and nice want the drum of Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: not sacking down.
Speaker 4: I'll off against anybody.
Speaker 1: I played the drums too, but I'm out of practice.
Speaker 1: How many histories do you play?
Speaker 4: So I play, I play drums, bass, a little bit
Speaker 4: of keys, guitar, and then the same.
Speaker 1: So when did did you pick up all of these
Speaker 1: in church? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like literally by ear too. No, nobody taught them.
Speaker 5: Nobody, Like you're the kid that's literally in there, like okay,
Speaker 5: let me see what I can do with this exactly,
Speaker 5: and like people will people be playing in church and
Speaker 5: and you know, you know how kids would be, you know,
Speaker 5: like be crowding around, and then I'll have my little
Speaker 5: sticks in my pocket wait for somebody be like, get
Speaker 5: up on the play, play a little something something.
Speaker 4: And then if you if you play and it was
Speaker 4: kind of cool, they let you drop. But if you
Speaker 4: was like making too much noise and it wasn't good,
Speaker 4: all right, get your ass off the yeah, come on, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: get down. So I would just be there watching everybody
Speaker 4: do everything. In the moments that I wasn't playing the drums,
Speaker 4: I was watching smart play the organ or somebody played
Speaker 4: the keys.
Speaker 3: This somebody played the guitar. I'm just like, okay, that's cool.
Speaker 3: And then the first song I learned how to play
Speaker 3: is a diary.
Speaker 4: Who diary? At least diary? The first one you learn
Speaker 4: key got the first.
Speaker 3: Song len I'll play. I was watching it was just like, okay,
Speaker 3: he's in the black keys. That's what it is.
Speaker 4: Getting all the black kids.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, this ones I discovered, yeah, together, those are the
Speaker 2: cool ones to me.
Speaker 1: So like my first song was there it is God
Speaker 1: in the Morning and such horized.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah he stayed stay away from the white don't
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 2: And they scared me because one of my grandmother tried
Speaker 2: to put me in music. She put me in music
Speaker 2: and they were like okay middle c and I was
Speaker 2: here with it.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, no, no good.
Speaker 2: But once you start playing in church and play long enough,
Speaker 2: and you have to catch people during devotional time starting
Speaker 2: in a right right, you got to follow them in
Speaker 2: a You got to pick it up. You got to
Speaker 2: learn quickly how y'all to have perfect pitch. You can't
Speaker 2: start no song in a Why are we singing in E?
Speaker 1: Who does this right? Right? But that's So how fluent
Speaker 1: are you in guitar.
Speaker 4: I'm actually better in guitar than I am at keys,
Speaker 4: And like I learned keys well enough to just produce,
Speaker 4: Like I started producing it like eleven. But at eleven,
Speaker 4: at eleven, how does that start?
Speaker 1: Though? Like, dude, you ask your parents to get you equipment.
Speaker 4: So okay, So I'll give you a rundown. So I
Speaker 4: was in a group a long time ago and it
Speaker 4: was my best friend, and he is like a genius
Speaker 4: when it comes to just rigging stuff up and being
Speaker 4: able to record. So we had he had like all
Speaker 4: old gear from church, like the tape machines and things
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: He rigged it.
Speaker 4: Up so that we could just be able to record.
Speaker 4: And so he would just press record on I could.
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to do it today, but
Speaker 4: your press record on the tapes and stuff it was
Speaker 4: wired to something else. He'd be like, all right, cool,
Speaker 4: we live press play on the track, and we in
Speaker 4: there singing temptations, my girl, my girl, my girl.
Speaker 3: Talking about right. So we're doing that.
Speaker 4: Play it back, No, we was off, then we all
Speaker 4: do it again.
Speaker 3: We wasn't sounding good.
Speaker 4: Everything, Yeah, exactly, yep, yep, So back then we was
Speaker 4: probably like the Crazy Party, were probably seven or eight,
Speaker 4: seven and eight doing stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So then I got my hands.
Speaker 4: On fruity loops. I got my hands on fruity loops,
Speaker 4: and that change my life. So he was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: this is how you do that. That's how you make
Speaker 4: the drums sounds, is how you do the patterns. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that was that bro, and I just fell down
Speaker 4: the rabbit hole. And so my parents they was like,
Speaker 4: all right, cool, We're just gonna baughtch your computer or
Speaker 4: actually it was the family computer, and I just put
Speaker 4: fruity loops on there.
Speaker 3: I was taking a boll of storage and ship. They
Speaker 3: had no memory and ship.
Speaker 2: Why it's fifty beats right right right, but now it's
Speaker 2: fruity loops.
Speaker 1: Man was at eleven? Were you writing.
Speaker 3: Songs to the beats too? Or you're just doing beats?
Speaker 3: So no, that was a crazy prob. I was just
Speaker 3: making beats. I didn't I was not thinking about your first.
Speaker 1: Beats to me. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of dope.
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of dope.
Speaker 4: It was like, obviously you hearing back now, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's cute.
Speaker 2: But he's as crazy as a young beat maker, like
Speaker 2: playing your beats like for people people.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what those faces back then.
Speaker 2: Everybody was just you know, I thought everybody liked it.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you really are glass half for this.
Speaker 4: He's got potential.
Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like, I'm killing these I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna get I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking to the swool chairs. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just didn't know my tracks with trash, I know,
Speaker 2: because in my mind, I'm just using what I got.
Speaker 4: You know, I would like burn CDs and anytime I'll
Speaker 4: go with my mom somewhere, I'll be like, yo, I'll
Speaker 4: burn like ten beats on CD, right, and be like.
Speaker 3: All right, mama, I got I got my CD and.
Speaker 4: Sometimes all right, you know, put so you play the CD.
Speaker 4: She would be very supportive on the ones that have potential,
Speaker 4: and then on the ones that she didn't like it.
Speaker 3: I realized that she would be on the phone.
Speaker 4: She's turned down your first. She was honest, honest with it.
Speaker 4: She was like, oh, why did you pick that sound?
Speaker 4: But it's supportive though, you know, never be like oh
Speaker 4: that was whack. But she was like okay, maybe you
Speaker 4: should go back to the drawing board and change that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, my mom, she was honest with it.
Speaker 3: Was supporting me though.
Speaker 1: That's super cool.
Speaker 2: My parents didn't really know what that was, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So they was like, all I hear
Speaker 2: is a bunch of noise coming out your room. You
Speaker 2: got to turn that down certain TV amp. Oh wow,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And my my synthesize and
Speaker 2: plugged up to the amp crazy and I'm literally.
Speaker 1: Like sun up son down.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I might have only eight once a day.
Speaker 2: You just he was just noise.
Speaker 1: I was just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, making track because I had a discus. It was
Speaker 2: a PV keyboard. Okay, most people don't know about that
Speaker 2: p v D p M four. I got it, show
Speaker 2: you put my disc in it, and then I don't
Speaker 2: had But you still have the same exact one. You
Speaker 2: still have it. That crazy you kept it some me mental.
Speaker 2: It only had eight tracks to make music, so I
Speaker 2: had to figure out my drums, my keys, my baby
Speaker 2: figure all that out in eight tracks. So sometime I
Speaker 2: had put the kick in the snare on the same track.
Speaker 3: Didn't get to the.
Speaker 2: Way I figured it out. Was kind of crazy. But
Speaker 2: I didn't think my tracks were cool until I get
Speaker 2: on the road with Genuine and I bring my keyboard,
Speaker 2: maybe make some tracks or something, and I'm making tracks
Speaker 2: and I'm just genuine like, that's just so, that's I
Speaker 2: got something that sounds like something.
Speaker 1: And come walking Timbling. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh ship, So I meant Timberland for the
Speaker 2: first time. He's riding our bus. He's what you got?
Speaker 1: What did you do? What you do?
Speaker 2: I said, I'm just making making some beats. So I
Speaker 2: played him somebody he said is He's liked, let's make
Speaker 2: one together.
Speaker 1: That dope. That dope. Yeah, I never heard that story.
Speaker 1: That's dope.
Speaker 2: So me and Timbling making a big bobbing heads on
Speaker 2: on the DP and four of course, you man, okay,
Speaker 2: what I got to use my pen because I broke
Speaker 2: that button.
Speaker 1: Rre.
Speaker 2: He an't even seen the ship she was working on,
Speaker 2: Like what is this?
Speaker 1: Is it? He's like okay, yeah? And Nick, that's when
Speaker 1: I was he was like this, Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like what you're doing.
Speaker 5: And how many years of noise were you making in
Speaker 5: your parents' basement before this moment?
Speaker 2: At this at this point, I'm twenty one two. I've
Speaker 2: been making.
Speaker 3: Noise, making noise, crazy, making.
Speaker 1: Noise since eighth seventh grade? What seventh eighth grade?
Speaker 3: Just making noise. Oh yeah, you gotta you gotta pay
Speaker 3: for every Vegans trip.
Speaker 1: I want to go every No drum set in the house?
Speaker 1: Hell no?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, no drum set in the house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the keyboard.
Speaker 3: So would you play the song and then play the
Speaker 3: drums to the song that you made?
Speaker 2: No, No, I was just I was just practice for
Speaker 2: whatever I was going to play on Sunday. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, practicing my chops and everything
Speaker 2: house at the house. It was never both at the
Speaker 2: same saying, like the drums were in the house or
Speaker 2: in the garage in.
Speaker 1: The house, in my bedroom like step brothers. Yeah, drums set.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, hell no, I wish I would my kids
Speaker 2: have a drum set.
Speaker 1: In the house.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 7: You know that's why you get the electric my father, Yes, enough, yes, enough,
Speaker 7: cut it out.
Speaker 1: It's making noise, bro that long. It takes that. But
Speaker 1: it's like they didn't know.
Speaker 2: It was like when the new movies in Church, you know,
Speaker 2: of course from the musician, and it all works out.
Speaker 1: In church.
Speaker 2: But in terms of what I was trying to be
Speaker 2: m M or what even I didn't know what I
Speaker 2: was working towards. I was just wanted to be good
Speaker 2: at it's. In fact, I wanted to sound like Timberland.
Speaker 2: I wanted to sound like commission shout out to the investors.
Speaker 2: We always shout out the investors, yeah, meaning the supportive parents.
Speaker 2: My mom bought synthesizers. Absolutely did not have the money
Speaker 2: for it, and we was paying payment on.
Speaker 3: Look at that synthesizers got you'all on now.
Speaker 1: My little nigga, Y know that's crazy, that's great.
Speaker 5: So you so you start yours at eleven, Start yours
Speaker 5: at eleven where you got fruity loops, y'all got a
Speaker 5: new computer. Guess because you didn't, you didn't burnt out
Speaker 5: the house sample, it's time.
Speaker 1: For you to make.
Speaker 4: I was recording over my mom's consette tapes and ship
Speaker 4: with my with my Ship and messing up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wilding. But were you in your mind?
Speaker 2: Were you were you searching for this place or were
Speaker 2: you just trying to Just.
Speaker 3: Was just making music because I loved it.
Speaker 1: Literally, it was very pure for you.
Speaker 4: Pure pure ass can be like yeah, back then, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't have told you, you know, it was here exactly.
Speaker 4: It was just like, yo, I love this, Like there's
Speaker 4: a feeling that I get when I do this I'm
Speaker 4: not getting from anything else, So I'm gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 2: How many years of noise are you making until you're yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what? You know what?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: I had a drum set, I'll say. Okay, I'll say
Speaker 4: when I was eight nine, That's when I got my
Speaker 4: first real drum set.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: I would say up to.
Speaker 4: Like twelve, I think nine to twelve I was making noise.
Speaker 4: And then like thirteen and on is when it was like,
Speaker 4: oh he kind of good.
Speaker 1: You were sweet? Are you doing talent shows? Are you?
Speaker 3: I'm in the band and you sang?
Speaker 1: Have the girls okay discovered you yet? Yeah?
Speaker 4: South Jersey absolutely. So this is what we would do.
Speaker 3: We were in a group at the time, and this
Speaker 3: is around.
Speaker 1: The name of the group. We like to know the
Speaker 1: names that this man.
Speaker 4: This group had a few names because they had a
Speaker 4: few members and it kept changing.
Speaker 3: But first, we're not gonna let you get out of
Speaker 3: telling this to no.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: No, no no, I'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you so so.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just start here. We was it was a
Speaker 4: new phase, new phase at one point. Then we changed
Speaker 4: it to act one.
Speaker 2: Act one okay, Act one started, start the movie. I
Speaker 2: got okay, Acting one back one okay. And then it
Speaker 2: changed to s J three South Jersey three.
Speaker 1: It's straight three. Sounds like a sweatsuit, but I get it.
Speaker 2: The new third edition drop next week. The boy edition
Speaker 2: play belt swayed. So yeah, J three obviously was three.
Speaker 3: You got yeah, three of us and we would go
Speaker 3: around to the mall.
Speaker 4: We were doing sweet sixteens, but we were in that
Speaker 4: era of like passing out the sex tape like cards
Speaker 4: and like go to the mall and sing and and
Speaker 4: then sometimes you circle back around after being in the
Speaker 4: mall all day and you see.
Speaker 3: Your fly on the ground.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been hanging out the trash be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So that was that was my childhood.
Speaker 1: Were you making some money off of it? Were you're
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of money?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, not even for the parties?
Speaker 3: No, no, well no not really, not really.
Speaker 4: It was just like hey, call, we want to perform, Yeah,
Speaker 4: have them boys pull up and perform boys. They're pretty
Speaker 4: good and they're gonna do it for free, so we
Speaker 4: we pulled up.
Speaker 3: It is exposure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I remember one time though, we pulled up because like
Speaker 4: the music we was doing, right, we was never on
Speaker 4: tho like hood ship.
Speaker 3: We didn't. I didn't grow up like in the hood.
Speaker 4: So the music we was doing was kind of like
Speaker 4: mixed between like you know, we we loved and sync, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Obviously we loved like Boys to Men, we love New Edition,
Speaker 4: but it was mixed.
Speaker 1: We was getting our B two KO.
Speaker 4: We were now and we were we were at some points,
Speaker 4: but we would we would make B.
Speaker 3: Two K sound and records.
Speaker 4: But then we would make really pop sound and records too,
Speaker 4: you know, because YouTube's around was trying to you know,
Speaker 4: sometimes trying to go viral and stuff like that. It
Speaker 4: was like, we need to cover these songs, man, these
Speaker 4: pop songs going up.
Speaker 1: So all y'all black yep.
Speaker 3: So we would go to so all right.
Speaker 4: There's one specific time I remember it was a sweet
Speaker 4: sixteen and and we was pulling up and one of
Speaker 4: the members like, yeah, I got this, you know, I
Speaker 4: got this party, And they said we could perform. This
Speaker 4: isn't that it's gonna be lit. We pull up and
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, ship, we in.
Speaker 1: The hood, the hood.
Speaker 4: We pull up, you know, niggas outside, you know, and
Speaker 4: this is a sweet sixteen and there's niggas outside that
Speaker 4: look grown.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, this is the hood niggas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: The niggas about to perform.
Speaker 2: No strings at jahn what yo.
Speaker 4: So we get up on stage and we're trying to
Speaker 4: do our thing, and I just remember, and that's why
Speaker 4: it built. It built character, because I remember niggas was
Speaker 4: just like, man, turn that ship off, walking around like
Speaker 4: so we was in formation, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like the three member formation. Okay, somebody walked in between
Speaker 4: our formation.
Speaker 1: What you niggas gonna do? Right? We ain't?
Speaker 4: We was like, and I'm a sing bro, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: ahead and hit the dance moves around you. Y'all kept performing,
Speaker 4: and we kept performing.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: We kept love them professional and the girl loved it.
Speaker 4: She loved it.
Speaker 3: The girl party that was for she loved it, and
Speaker 3: that's all that matters. But I was like, yo, you're
Speaker 3: gonna get jump.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna try to sing.
Speaker 3: We're just trying to just trying to do music.
Speaker 2: Bro. So we got we got we gotta do better
Speaker 2: as the people we got so aggressive.
Speaker 1: We gotta do better. Oh you niggas want to sing?
Speaker 1: Can you fight?
Speaker 4: Can you?
Speaker 1: Can you fight? Can you? My good at the car?
Speaker 1: I think you're sweet. We gotta stop thinking sweet? Like
Speaker 1: going together? And she wanted us to perform.
Speaker 2: His explanations are what why.
Speaker 1: Are you here? Why you even here?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: It's the sweet sixteen man. This is to walk to
Speaker 1: y'all said too, if y'all come in my neighborhood.
Speaker 4: We wasn't we were doing originals, but like you know,
Speaker 4: we were We weren't that crazy.
Speaker 1: We wasn't about to go up there. But it had
Speaker 1: a pop feel to it some of them. Yeah you
Speaker 1: had a whole set.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a little fifteen minutes. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 4: you right now, out there dying for fifteen minutes, like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, bro, ship can't get over fast enough.
Speaker 3: I won't go home, go home.
Speaker 1: Can't go home. But y'all stayed in it. That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what happened to s J three?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 4: I mean we eventually we met I think around the
Speaker 4: time none of no, no, no no. You met me
Speaker 4: a little bit afterwards, but Jazz ended up signing the
Speaker 4: group I'm familiar with. I'm familiar with s J three.
Speaker 4: So I meet Jazz. I met Jazz through a Marion. Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you had already met Jazz before,
Speaker 4: but I met Jazz through a Marion. We're working on
Speaker 4: like the I Get It In and those records that we.
Speaker 1: Were doing for.
Speaker 2: Oh, and me and him got cool, and I remember
Speaker 2: Tank and I started working with some young fellas from Houston,
Speaker 2: from Beaumont called a twelve tier, and me and Jazz
Speaker 2: was in the studio and he's like, man, I got
Speaker 2: I got these I got these young niggas out of
Speaker 2: out of out of Jersey. These niggas is cold, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Nigga, we got some young niggas we
Speaker 2: fucking with, our nigga from your backyard.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, if they if they're from Texas, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I found Drake. I'm like, that
Speaker 1: does Drake has nothing? So what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Jazz, put Drake's up right right right right.
Speaker 1: So we're going back and forth.
Speaker 2: I'm like, nigga, why I'm gonna show you these niggas
Speaker 2: YouTube the niggas used to do all the YouTube they
Speaker 2: was cooking.
Speaker 5: And then he showed me y'all and I said him,
Speaker 5: so literally what I said to him, I said him,
Speaker 5: what you mean him, M.
Speaker 1: That's your guy? That's crazy. That was just my But
Speaker 1: that was just my opinion, right.
Speaker 2: This is because in this business is subjective, right, It's
Speaker 2: all about opinions and what you know resonates to you
Speaker 2: and what you see that you attached to first just
Speaker 2: and I and it could have been the group for
Speaker 2: some people, but.
Speaker 1: For me personally, I saw you.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: That nigga called.
Speaker 5: Fast forward to him being like you ever heard his
Speaker 5: young nigga name? I said, nah, I never heard of him.
Speaker 1: And he shows me.
Speaker 3: I said, that's a nigga from the group.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, he fucking with Jazz. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: he took him out the group.
Speaker 5: I don't know how, you know what I mean, I
Speaker 5: don't know I transpired and what ended up happening, but
Speaker 5: I'm like, it was him to me.
Speaker 1: It's just my just my opinion.
Speaker 4: And the crazy thing is I feel like everything happened
Speaker 4: for a reason, of course, and they they my brothers.
Speaker 3: We liked this to this day.
Speaker 4: And Desmond, that's one of the other members, he blew
Speaker 4: up on some whole different.
Speaker 1: Ship, blew up big, just huge.
Speaker 3: So did the other one on TikTok, And I'm like, see,
Speaker 3: it was it was personality.
Speaker 1: There was more about the personal and.
Speaker 4: It was it was like it was supposed to happen
Speaker 4: that way, you know what I'm saying, And for me
Speaker 4: to just do my thing and everybody do their thing.
Speaker 3: And that's how I mean it split up. But I
Speaker 3: think it worked out for the for the better for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody got moving exactly.
Speaker 1: So what did.
Speaker 5: You guys, because I never knew it from a group standpoint,
Speaker 5: did you guys ever put out music as a group?
Speaker 4: We we put out maybe there's like one EP that
Speaker 4: we did and and that was it, like like and
Speaker 4: just for real iTunes and stuff like that on DSPs
Speaker 4: and that was it. And then we had got signed
Speaker 4: after that to Jazz, So we were working like we
Speaker 4: was working and working for a few years and it
Speaker 4: just didn't happen that way. And then you know, they
Speaker 4: some of the members went back home to New Jersey. One
Speaker 4: of the members had his son, so he had he
Speaker 4: had to be a dad, and it just kind of
Speaker 4: just naturally just took his course.
Speaker 3: So I was still out here at the time.
Speaker 4: This is probably like I say, like twenty fifteen, and
Speaker 4: that's when I was just in my writing and producing bag.
Speaker 4: Like twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, I was really just like
Speaker 4: all right, you know, sometimes I'll be doing the group
Speaker 4: stuff when he was a group, but I'll find time
Speaker 4: when I was off and I'll just be like, yo,
Speaker 4: I got this idea, I got the latest. I gotta
Speaker 4: make this song, right. So I made a whole ton
Speaker 4: of songs, and what happened in that batch of songs
Speaker 4: that I.
Speaker 1: Made was Liquor.
Speaker 4: Make Love stuff that landed with Chris and even on
Speaker 4: the mixtape this song he got called come Home to
Speaker 4: Night that I did, Eat It Up. I simpled Jana
Speaker 4: Jackson Escapade and like, those were those was the songs
Speaker 4: that I was making, and.
Speaker 1: Those are your first placements.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you get to Chris Jazz Jazz? Yeah,
Speaker 4: So it was it was one night. So we we
Speaker 4: just had to be like twenty fourteen, you did the
Speaker 4: beat on Liquor co produced nasty. Yeah. It me and
Speaker 4: my bro the Acuarus Aquarius nasty Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you wrote it yep, naturally my room in Jersey.
Speaker 4: I was home at the time, but yeah, okay, Jersey,
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, right, appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Bro man.
Speaker 4: And that was the one man that was the one
Speaker 4: that really changed and changed everything for me.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you were you able to it was okay.
Speaker 5: So when that happened for you, you get this record,
Speaker 5: you get your you get a hit record, you get
Speaker 5: a record that everybody knows and everybody now.
Speaker 1: Knows you four. Do you feel like you fully.
Speaker 5: Promoted that is in like, you know, going about making
Speaker 5: a name for yourself.
Speaker 1: Or did you just let it happen.
Speaker 4: I didn't if I could rewind, because I don't regret anything,
Speaker 4: But if I could rewind, I wish I did promote
Speaker 4: in more of a business behind it, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. At the time, it was like, oh, things
Speaker 4: is happening, Like this is crazy, this is great shit.
Speaker 4: Let me keep creating, Let me keep creating, you know,
Speaker 4: let me stay out studio rat, like studio Rat, y'are
Speaker 4: sleeping in the studio just making music, like y'all. I
Speaker 4: just got to make more music and then more things
Speaker 4: like this will happen.
Speaker 1: Did you do a publishing deal anything? Nothing?
Speaker 4: Oh, pub deal nothing, Because in my mind I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna build up my catalog. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna build up my worth and then I'll do a
Speaker 4: publil okay. But I really do wish that at that
Speaker 4: time though that I was really like on on that socially,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, Like I did this on the business of it exactly.
Speaker 3: I wish I was outside and like, you know what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, because yeah, if you're if you're if if the
Speaker 2: conversation has a face, not just the name, right, then
Speaker 2: it makes the creative process in terms of getting to
Speaker 2: artists and getting.
Speaker 1: To A and R, is a whole lot easier.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you did the record two years later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't know initially that you did the record until later.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, they like you know, Tom
Speaker 2: wrote like Nigga had no idea he.
Speaker 1: Created that record.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, now I started, you know, start
Speaker 4: promoting it now.
Speaker 5: But you're still find it's still fine because it's you know,
Speaker 5: it's about discovery and Rediscovery. But you know, I always
Speaker 5: always wonder, you know, especially from for your generation, with
Speaker 5: understanding what the self promotion is. You know, I and
Speaker 5: I go, I go back to and I've mentioned him
Speaker 5: a few times, Tyler the Creator when he's like, I
Speaker 5: don't understand why people don't promote their stuff. You spend
Speaker 5: all your time creating it, but then you only promote
Speaker 5: it for the week that it's out, Like Nigga, No,
Speaker 5: it doesn't go away that you did that record.
Speaker 2: Right, I'll still talk about a record I did twenty
Speaker 2: years ago because I did it.
Speaker 5: I just did it, right, Yeah, why not? It's part
Speaker 5: of you. It's your accomplishments. When we when we look
Speaker 5: and see how many times Michael Jordan made the All
Speaker 5: Star Game, they don't take away he still talk it's
Speaker 5: a thirteen year All Star, it's fifteen whatever the lebron
Speaker 5: been in the All Star Game twenty thousand times.
Speaker 1: They all say name, right.
Speaker 5: Right, I mean it's like I'm saying on you know,
Speaker 5: they're talking about the Bubble Championship. I said, yeah, and
Speaker 5: I also celebrate all my adult league championships too, right,
Speaker 5: wins wins, brother, Yeah, exactly, exact. You have wins, promote
Speaker 5: those wins and for the for the artists, for the writers,
Speaker 5: for the people that are watching. It's like when you
Speaker 5: get your wins, man, talk about your wins, bro absolutely,
Speaker 5: because these people will talk about your losses fast fast.
Speaker 1: They can't wait to tell to send your losses viral.
Speaker 1: Look look at when you looking at it? Somebody, come
Speaker 1: look at this, somebody, I'm looking at this. Nigga fell
Speaker 1: off stage. Been on thousand stages and didn't fall. But
Speaker 1: the one time you want to dance, you know what,
Speaker 1: even doing.
Speaker 2: Amazing dancing all his life, why did he pull the
Speaker 2: white man down to He tried to pull it. The
Speaker 2: white man's just a casualty. He's like, he's like I
Speaker 2: was holding on to him. Then I realized I was
Speaker 2: about to pull him down to it. I said, I
Speaker 2: can't do that. I gotta let him go. I gotta
Speaker 2: let him go.
Speaker 1: You gotta you have you have to stand in front
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, that has That was a.
Speaker 4: Huge and I mean, I'm glad you're telling me this
Speaker 4: because that was a huge lesson that.
Speaker 2: I still like, I'm like, damn, could outside and outside
Speaker 2: would have been different?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: For real, for real, it's the thing when niggas is
Speaker 5: when you know when you when you do go like
Speaker 5: you said, you've been outside a little more when you
Speaker 5: go outside and nigga.
Speaker 1: Like nigga, you wrote you're a liquor. That's the nigga
Speaker 1: that wrote.
Speaker 5: Because we don't understand sometimes too, when you put your
Speaker 5: head down and you just work that those moments that
Speaker 5: you may miss out by going to this such and
Speaker 5: such event and you just happened to meet That's how
Speaker 5: we end up meeting Cardiac.
Speaker 2: Who produced when we for us just like that too randomly.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even supposed to be there.
Speaker 1: He don't even he didn't even make R and B beats.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: He made rap beats. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, I say, I said,
Speaker 2: you can do R and B beats. Yeah, I make crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't make a crazy R and B beat nigga.
Speaker 5: I make a crazy Cardiacy through an introduction through mutual friends,
Speaker 5: through through through chasing cash and Matt McNeil being like,
Speaker 5: oh this is our this was our o g amen
Speaker 5: me and then hyping him up and we take they
Speaker 5: take their word for it. And then now he sent
Speaker 5: us a B pack if he don't show up to
Speaker 5: that event. And we don't show up to that event,
Speaker 5: we never get win we that's crazy.
Speaker 2: When we from outside, we from outside place e p
Speaker 2: L B P L E L on the rooftop outside.
Speaker 1: If we don't go, it never happened. That record.
Speaker 5: That's a life changing record for us, not just for him,
Speaker 5: for us, for our business, for what we do. If
Speaker 5: we don't go there, that dyke, you never get win.
Speaker 3: We that's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you gotta be everywhere.
Speaker 2: It's it's something that just outside outside, but you have to.
Speaker 3: You have like you got to go to some stuff
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm really understanding that, Like I'm in full like okay,
Speaker 4: oh there's an event going on. Cool, let's let's pull up,
Speaker 4: you know, manager, Like, Yo, you need to be at
Speaker 4: this cool, no problem, Like I'm there.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I wish because I was way younger back then too,
Speaker 4: So it's just like, yo, I just really wish that
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: He's still twelve. I would have fruity loose. You couldn't get.
Speaker 2: I had fruity loose for breakfast.
Speaker 1: I was younger than.
Speaker 2: You couldn't even get in the right we wouldn't even
Speaker 2: being able to meet you because you get it, like,
Speaker 2: let it me in Hollywood, and that is the thing.
Speaker 1: Hollywood. Hollywood is like this right.
Speaker 2: While you hot, while you you know, while you got
Speaker 2: things cracking, like it's.
Speaker 1: Just to pull up and you only got to do a.
Speaker 3: Few of them.
Speaker 2: You just got to pull up the right way, right
Speaker 2: right to the right spots. Yeah, shake the right security
Speaker 2: guys hand, shake the right club promoter's hand.
Speaker 3: Be introduced by the right person, be introduced by the
Speaker 3: right person.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like jazz is the right person, the perfect person,
Speaker 5: perfect person.
Speaker 1: Everybody with jazz, yeah, you know, everybody. And once you
Speaker 1: do that and once they associated.
Speaker 3: He good, he's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever he wants.
Speaker 2: And he's been hyping you from the beginning. Absolutely from
Speaker 2: the beginning. He called me early that's my dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got this nigga exactly. Let's see what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Don't know RMB take you know, I know
Speaker 1: R and B. I love R and B.
Speaker 3: Man jazz R and B singer.
Speaker 2: If you can say that what your whole RMV He
Speaker 2: gets it, Yeah, understands it.
Speaker 1: He knows his music. Yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But that pull up is a different pull up
Speaker 5: for you that you know and it's still you know
Speaker 5: to this day, you can still utilize it. But for
Speaker 5: the artists that are watching this and the writers that
Speaker 5: are watching, it's like, yeah, when you get when you
Speaker 5: get that win, go celebrate that win a little bit
Speaker 5: up pull up, yeah.
Speaker 1: Side.
Speaker 2: So you got your fifth project coming out, right, So
Speaker 2: let's just talk like exploration in terms of your first
Speaker 2: four projects and what do you feel like you've learned.
Speaker 2: How do you feel like you've grown starting from project one.
Speaker 4: So my first project dropped in twenty seventeen. It was
Speaker 4: called Can We Talk? And I actually think that project
Speaker 4: organically did amazing for me, Like it really did put
Speaker 4: me on the map. I remember Drake actually came to
Speaker 4: one of my rehearsals when I was getting ready to
Speaker 4: go on tour with August I've seen it.
Speaker 3: He was like, Nigga, that's incredible, bro, I can't do that.
Speaker 4: You killing it and ship. So it was a it was
Speaker 4: a crazy moment. But I know, as far as making
Speaker 4: that project, it was a lot of just let me
Speaker 4: just try something new, let me try something different, and
Speaker 4: really just trying to find myself in music. I know
Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of Michael a huge fan of Prince.
Speaker 4: But I know at the time, you know, it was like,
Speaker 4: you know, Bryson had that crazy run with trap soul, and.
Speaker 3: I know in the industry that was the that was
Speaker 3: the sound.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that if it wasn't if
Speaker 4: it wasn't sounding like that, then you know, he wasn't
Speaker 4: getting played. So just using that as a bass, I
Speaker 4: was really just trying to create in that box but
Speaker 4: still have those elements of Mike and Prince and the
Speaker 4: things that I love about music.
Speaker 3: And so it was really you know that's the word.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was really just exploring a lot learning. And then
Speaker 4: the second project I dropped is called uh.
Speaker 3: Good Company.
Speaker 4: And so after can We Talk, did this thing like
Speaker 4: it made some noise and it was cool, and people
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, Tony's on the radar. The singles would
Speaker 4: let Me and I think the other song that did
Speaker 4: really good was it's called Miss California, and so people
Speaker 4: were like, all right, we heard them songs we love
Speaker 4: let me, So then we do Good Company. And that's
Speaker 4: the second second second yeap so I had I had
Speaker 4: Sway Lee on that one, Quavo and Tie Dollar Sign,
Speaker 4: which was dope and.
Speaker 3: That one same thing.
Speaker 4: It was like records that I had already and records
Speaker 4: that we just created just randomly. But it was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is sounding good as a group of music, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, let's let's make a little
Speaker 4: project out of this and call it Good Company.
Speaker 3: And I ain't gonna lie though.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite songs is on that song on
Speaker 4: that project called ticket There, and that's what Tie Dollars signed,
Speaker 4: And I think that one really, like I don't know,
Speaker 4: it just had his own life, it still has his
Speaker 4: own life. So that one was still still trying to
Speaker 4: find myself, still growing still, like okay, I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I'm still experimenting. I know you're putting these out through
Speaker 4: the label YEP, it's all through RCA.
Speaker 3: But their only mixtapes, Yeah, just.
Speaker 4: EPs EP though EPs Yeah, yeah, not like but not official,
Speaker 4: not official album.
Speaker 2: Well could letting you build but not counting towards necessarily
Speaker 2: your album exactly.
Speaker 4: It was just like, let's let's let him figure it out,
Speaker 4: let's let him find himself.
Speaker 3: Okay, so put those out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 4: Good Company was twenty eighteen, so twenty seventeen twenty eighteen,
Speaker 4: back to back.
Speaker 1: So then.
Speaker 4: Damn, I don't know if I shared it, I don't know, see,
Speaker 4: but it was very it was real ironic that we
Speaker 4: had that conversation with Sean and because in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 4: I'll just say this, that year it almost felt like
Speaker 4: everything was going like this, and then it just started
Speaker 4: doing this, just like I was just like, what the
Speaker 4: fuck is going on? Bro, shit, It's just feels stagnant.
Speaker 4: It feels like I don't feel like I'm growing like
Speaker 4: it just you know, in the business, it was a
Speaker 4: lot of things going on, a lot of confusion, a
Speaker 4: lot of new managers and management coming in and going out,
Speaker 4: and I was like, just like, what the fuck? Like
Speaker 4: that was probably one of the worst years that I had,
Speaker 4: like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen into twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 4: and I really felt like the label was gonna drop me.
Speaker 4: I felt like they was gonna drop me twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 4: I hit up so I go on tour with her
Speaker 4: in twenty eight team So shout out Jeff and MBK.
Speaker 4: They allowed me to go on tour with her, and I,
Speaker 4: you know, really got to be around them. And be
Speaker 4: around Jeff and see how everybody operate. They got to
Speaker 4: learn about me and my situation and you know what
Speaker 4: was going on. So when that moment hit in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 4: I didn't have a manager anymore and my situation was
Speaker 4: kind of just in the air.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what the label was about to do me.
Speaker 4: So I hit up Jeff and Jason and I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't have any management. My back is
Speaker 4: against the wall. I don't have a good feeling about
Speaker 4: my situation. I don't know what's about to happen. I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm about to get dropped and I need help.
Speaker 4: And Jason was like, Okay, let me talk to Jeff,
Speaker 4: let me see what's up.
Speaker 3: And literally after that.
Speaker 4: Came back to me and was like, yo, Jeff said
Speaker 4: he's down to manage you. So from the end of
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen till now you know, NBK got involved, Jason
Speaker 4: got involved, Jazz still involved, and it just started doing this,
Speaker 4: started going back up, we started getting traction again, and
Speaker 4: then we dropped the project Fuck with Me. So Fuck
Speaker 4: with Me was like it was cool because now I
Speaker 4: felt like I had a team that was really taking
Speaker 4: the time to make me.
Speaker 3: Figure out who I was. Before that, I was just I.
Speaker 4: Had the mindset of a writer and a producer, so
Speaker 4: I was never really tapped into the artist artists mindset.
Speaker 4: I didn't know how to be an artist until recently.
Speaker 4: So it was like, Yo, just I'm gonna make songs.
Speaker 4: I'm a studio, right, I'm gonna just make these songs.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make that one. But I wasn't being an artist,
Speaker 4: and so when Fuck with Me came, it was.
Speaker 3: Really like, Yo, what do you want to say? Who
Speaker 3: do you want to be? Like you can?
Speaker 4: You have this freedom? You got this freedom?
Speaker 1: You just you gotta just do it.
Speaker 4: So we dropped Fuck with Me. And it's crazy because
Speaker 4: that record did really good for me. It like caught
Speaker 4: on and people. That was the first time in my
Speaker 4: life where I started to go out in public and
Speaker 4: people be like, hey, you fuck with Me guy, like,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, the fuck with the name of the song, guy,
Speaker 4: it's crazy to me, Like I never got that, Like
Speaker 4: you're the fuck with Me guy, and I'm like, that's new.
Speaker 4: So we dropped Fuck with Me. Then we dropped in
Speaker 4: that same year, we dropped the Part two. He was
Speaker 4: like fuck it, let's just we got some songs together.
Speaker 4: Fuck it, let's just keep going. We got this momentum going.
Speaker 4: And what's crazy is me and Chris would do I Ever?
Speaker 4: And you heard that song at Jazz's holl way back
Speaker 4: in like twenty seventeen. We had cut this song a
Speaker 4: while ago and never like could figure out the right
Speaker 4: time to drop it.
Speaker 8: Drop me, that's crazy, Brog about cash your name nigga?
Speaker 1: Right now? How much price? Full price?
Speaker 3: What's full price?
Speaker 1: I don't worry about.
Speaker 2: Just know when we full love, we're gonna do whatever
Speaker 2: we got to do to get in there and support
Speaker 2: our guy.
Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all. Man, I don't know, man, Tank, he's
Speaker 3: been rocking with me.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I remember playing Do I Ever for him in the
Speaker 4: studio for the first time.
Speaker 3: I remember you saying, what the fuck you doing?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 4: Literally that was that was it the you're doing, Bro,
Speaker 4: That's the biggest song in R and B.
Speaker 2: I just believe in and and like, you know, I know,
Speaker 2: I know you guys are I know the approach you're taking.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's it's a stepping stones
Speaker 2: and building blocks. It's it's to grow in the audience
Speaker 2: and and and you know it's it's organic.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 2: I love it. But that song right there could have
Speaker 2: had a budget behind it and went to radio mm
Speaker 2: hmmm mm hmmm, and went crazy. I know it. Can't
Speaker 2: tell me nothing different, can't tell me nothing different. I
Speaker 2: get it, I get me.
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm I'm gonna respect your process.
Speaker 4: Bro, I agree.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, I don't know who didn't hear it,
Speaker 2: who didn't see it? You said, I said, I said, right,
Speaker 2: I'll say this yep, yep, literally literally, are you holding
Speaker 2: this bomb?
Speaker 3: This bomb of a record bomb?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 2: Anyway, listen, listen, you're in the business of writing hit records.
Speaker 1: You will make another one that keep going, yes, keep going?
Speaker 2: What you got over there, chief, what I got like this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Come on now, come on now, brother.
Speaker 1: Tone You're young, but come on now.
Speaker 2: Your journeys from the church house to the R and
Speaker 2: B Club, you've been able to develop some favorites.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You R and B people want to know,
Speaker 1: if they want to want to know, come on, your.
Speaker 6: Top five, your top five, top five, your top five?
Speaker 1: Who else? All the songs we all to know? You
Speaker 1: got to show tell us you know, we want to
Speaker 1: love you. Top lujah.
Speaker 9: Wow your.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah I was nasty.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah that'st you, brother, Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: All right, your top five R and B singers. All right,
Speaker 4: can look at my list. I made a little list.
Speaker 1: You can talk at your list. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: What you know? Time? All right, your hour, dude, you
Speaker 1: want to do all right? So look.
Speaker 4: Top five artists. Mm hmmmm. At the five playing Center,
Speaker 4: I got Chris Brown. At the four power forward, I
Speaker 4: got Usher.
Speaker 1: At guard.
Speaker 3: Or small forward, I got Whitney Houston shooting guard. I'm
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson. And at the point I got Prince.
Speaker 4: Game Game and then and then the substitute. Six Man
Speaker 4: of the Year, six women of the Year. I should
Speaker 4: say it's Patty LaBelle.
Speaker 3: Six women of the Year.
Speaker 2: Yep, pattle the base to sing that somewhere over the
Speaker 2: rainbow m.
Speaker 1: I went on too paid LaBelle.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Of course you did right, amazing, spilled a little champagne
Speaker 1: if you don't mind. It was baby Face.
Speaker 2: I opened for the baby Face Wow, the Old Jays
Speaker 2: and Petty Label.
Speaker 4: That's gold status bro, and the ghost called me to
Speaker 4: do it as a faith.
Speaker 1: Wow. That guy that guy. It's one of my my
Speaker 1: one flex for the night.
Speaker 2: It's a great five. Okay, go to your let's go
Speaker 2: to your top five R and B songs.
Speaker 1: M I like it. I did, I did.
Speaker 4: I was in the car, I was like, hold up
Speaker 4: to write this out all right at center M we
Speaker 4: Got Silly by Denise Williams.
Speaker 1: That's at the five in me.
Speaker 4: Wow, yep, oh yeah, that's the I don't know. Every
Speaker 4: time I hear that song, it hit me different. I'll say,
Speaker 4: I'll say this.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, let me stay on track.
Speaker 4: Power Forward, love and Need and Want, Patti LaBelle, Yeah,
Speaker 4: small four, we got you Got It Bad? And I
Speaker 4: think with Usher you could put you could put you
Speaker 4: Got a Bad Burn superstar in that. You could just
Speaker 4: interchange them in that to me, okay, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: keep it consistent. So after two like I want to
Speaker 4: be a lover Prince hm hmm, that's all.
Speaker 3: I changed, my life, changed my life. At what age
Speaker 3: do you discover I want to be a you know what?
Speaker 4: I first heard of Mike and Prince when I was
Speaker 4: eight years old. I knew I knew Mike's music before Prince,
Speaker 4: but the first thing that I've seen a Prince was
Speaker 4: is a Sign of the Times tour movie. So my
Speaker 4: dad used to watch that and when I'll you know
Speaker 4: that weekends, I'll be with him.
Speaker 1: Just it resonated with your soul.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, you didn't know.
Speaker 1: You didn't know why.
Speaker 4: I didn't know, no idea what I didn't know why
Speaker 4: he was like that man was up there going.
Speaker 2: Imagine going to school the next day Monday. You left
Speaker 2: your pops hops on Sunday on that Monday walking class.
Speaker 4: Hey girl, hot hot Dan, what's your fantasy.
Speaker 2: I wish one of them little niggas would running from
Speaker 2: my daughter singing that hot her daddy coming to the
Speaker 2: schoolhouse and I'll hit.
Speaker 1: A kid up shopping you up at number one.
Speaker 4: I got rocked with you, Michael Jackson. I think that's
Speaker 4: probably one of the greatest songs of all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, you saw a groove, a boogie, all of it,
Speaker 2: all of that girl.
Speaker 3: Closure rest.
Speaker 2: That's a code open line because I can go anywhere
Speaker 2: to anyway, hold on anywhere.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, it's like go anywhere.
Speaker 6: Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a lyric and I want to know
Speaker 1: where you're going with this. Hold on, watch.
Speaker 2: Whoa nothing nothing.
Speaker 1: Relaxed heads. Next to let's make your vote trying.
Speaker 3: Is let's uh hm hmm, let's make your super r
Speaker 3: and b artists.
Speaker 2: Who you're getting the vocal from, Who are you getting
Speaker 2: the performance style from? Who are you getting the styling from,
Speaker 2: Who are you getting the passion of the artists from,
Speaker 2: and who's writing and producing for that artist? Here we go,
Speaker 2: Let's start with the vocal. Who getting the vocal from?
Speaker 3: Getting the vocal from me?
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm gonna keep the vocal vocal. I want
Speaker 1: to sing the song.
Speaker 2: I want to sing the goddamn damn.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. I'm David the Temptations.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep my voice.
Speaker 2: Performing style Mike, Yeah, Mike different, Mike different, electric.
Speaker 1: Styling, Prince, Prince, Now.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna wear the ship with the ass cut out.
Speaker 1: You can't say that. I don't say that. Yes he can,
Speaker 1: he can't.
Speaker 3: Wait because it's there's there's different.
Speaker 1: You either won't, Prince, or you won't or you don't.
Speaker 3: There's different error.
Speaker 1: You just want to see be sitting button on the horse,
Speaker 1: or you don't. You could be you can be the slave.
Speaker 1: You can't pick a prince be the artist. You either
Speaker 1: prince or not.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Sign of the Times. Prince.
Speaker 1: You can't pick a prince? Why not? I can't figure error?
Speaker 1: He picked the prince you want to be?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: He didn't get to pick the prince he wanted to
Speaker 1: be Prince the all time.
Speaker 4: Would be his artist, formally known as the eighty seven Prince.
Speaker 1: Bro course is crazy. You don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not wearing chaps.
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing.
Speaker 6: Who.
Speaker 1: You're getting the passion of the artists wrong?
Speaker 4: Yo, you know what passion? I'm gonna go with Aretha Franklin.
Speaker 4: Why not Aretha Franklin, Bro Franklin sweating sweat all over
Speaker 4: that Piana Piana?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, a different type of passion? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Who's writing and producing for this artist?
Speaker 4: Can I split the right? I'm gonna take a different
Speaker 4: approach and I'm gonna I'm gonna be creative with I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say Frank Ocean as a writer, say Frank Ocean
Speaker 4: as a writer and then producer. I'm gonna say salam Remy.
Speaker 5: Michael Jackson dancing to some salame Remy written by Frank
Speaker 5: Ocean sang By you.
Speaker 2: Know, no, Clami, I'm gonna say Salam, salamis am. Come on,
Speaker 2: come onto the podcast, puld you know what it is.
Speaker 2: I will pull up to your villa.
Speaker 1: We'll pull up to you wherever you recorded all this amazing?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, fal trying. I like you, Yes, sir.
Speaker 6: H.
Speaker 3: Black kid, black kids.
Speaker 1: Heard a white kid.
Speaker 2: I ain't saying no nick, ain't saying no necks, ain't
Speaker 2: saying no names.
Speaker 9: Are what you mean? Don't say I ain't saying no.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh man, I'm on we here, brother, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: know you watched the podcast. Yeah yeah, yeah, right now
Speaker 2: we needed we needed an important segment.
Speaker 5: I ain't saying no names. Will you tell us that
Speaker 5: story funny or fucked up? You know, maybe a R
Speaker 5: and B podcast nigga showed up to your show and
Speaker 5: had to pay Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Alright, all right, but you don't say that nigga name. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you know the litenants game. You don't say no names.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And our new thing is you can tell us one
Speaker 2: or two. It's up to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, I'll start off with this.
Speaker 3: I got a d M.
Speaker 1: One day always starts there. Young niggas they get d M.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 3: I got a deal one day.
Speaker 1: And it was crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean for me. I was like, yo, you know
Speaker 3: this person hit me up. I mean she like certified,
Speaker 3: Like okay, okay, blue check.
Speaker 1: This is her?
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah blue check on social media and in real
Speaker 5: life and we're like, this is her, Okay, it's her,
Speaker 5: She's her, you know, pull up to the studio.
Speaker 3: I'm working on this song and I want you to
Speaker 3: be a.
Speaker 1: Part of it.
Speaker 3: I want you to help write it. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, let's hell, yeah, I'm there.
Speaker 4: I just had copped the E thirty, you know, the
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety BMW drop top convertible.
Speaker 1: Just copped it.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, let me put on. I'm coming
Speaker 4: to impress the pull up game.
Speaker 3: I was on my ship.
Speaker 4: Bro let me let me get my ship right. So
Speaker 4: I'm hopping in the car, got over three hundred thousand
Speaker 4: plus miles.
Speaker 3: I really shouldn't be driving this. It's not even registered
Speaker 3: in my name.
Speaker 1: I just bought it.
Speaker 4: I shouldn't should get the title and ship, but I'm driving.
Speaker 1: Got to impress. You gotta pull up.
Speaker 4: My license plates is connected to a nigga name.
Speaker 3: One so not even men. So you know I'm pulling
Speaker 3: up out here in Hollywood. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I get down here, I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 3: She hissed me.
Speaker 4: She's like, I'm not I'm not gonna be able to
Speaker 4: make it.
Speaker 1: And we're good.
Speaker 3: Me with me and this person good, there's nothing but good.
Speaker 1: We're good.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be able to make it today. But
Speaker 4: the producers there, so just going with him and y'all
Speaker 4: finished di record and I'm like, all right, perfect, cool,
Speaker 4: I'm not even tripping. All right, I'm not gonna see her.
Speaker 3: You put all your smell goods on for your you know,
Speaker 3: but you know what.
Speaker 1: You want to use half the bottle. It's about the sound.
Speaker 4: It's about it's about the end of the day, at
Speaker 4: the end of the beginning, because in the morning.
Speaker 1: And I was.
Speaker 3: Time, okay, go ahead, So you know, she sent me
Speaker 3: the producer. I'm gonna cool. Hit him up.
Speaker 4: Hey bro, I'm here, I'm at the I'm at the studio,
Speaker 4: you know, cool.
Speaker 3: Hit him. Ten minutes go by, Oh shit, no response.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, you.
Speaker 4: Know, maybe maybe bro busy working, maybe eating lunch, I
Speaker 4: don't know. Twenty minutes, starting to think I'm like, all right,
Speaker 4: you know, it's a little weird, but I mean the
Speaker 4: opportunity is, the opportunity is great.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm I'm gonna stick around, you know.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 4: Forty five minutes, I'm like, the fuck is going on?
Speaker 4: So at this point I'm just like, damn, bro, Like
Speaker 4: what's going on?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: So I'm like, yo, hit him back. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: double texting now. You know, it's just me in the
Speaker 4: message now. So I'm like, hey, you know, if I'm
Speaker 4: gonna leave, you know what I'm saying. If you know
Speaker 4: you ain't saying nothing. You know, I'm I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: back to the valley, bro, Like you know, it's a
Speaker 4: long drive.
Speaker 1: Say shit.
Speaker 3: So I was there for an hour in my drop top, chilling.
Speaker 4: So I'm all right, cool, I'm leaving, bro, Get on
Speaker 4: the highway, get back on the one on one north.
Speaker 4: He assed me, like, oh, Bro, I didn't see I
Speaker 4: didn't see the text. I didn't see my phone go off.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, I'm going, Bro. I was down
Speaker 4: here for an hour, right. So then fast forward later
Speaker 4: on in the week, I talked to a certain A
Speaker 4: and R at the time, and I was like, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Was supposed to do a session with so and so
Speaker 3: you know, she.
Speaker 4: Told me to pull up and you know, I was
Speaker 4: excited or whatever, and it was you know, it's cool,
Speaker 4: it didn't happen, but you know, this was this is
Speaker 4: probably I'm gonna just say that.
Speaker 3: This was like Thursday, and he was like, oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh and let me rewind.
Speaker 4: She said, you know, I'm not feeling good, so you
Speaker 4: know that that was the reason why she didn't come.
Speaker 3: I was all right, cool, understandable.
Speaker 1: I kid it.
Speaker 4: So I see a certain day in r I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: she said she wasn't feeling good that day. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 4: that's funny because I seen her that same day eating
Speaker 4: chicken outside somewhere and I was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, cool damn.
Speaker 4: So that's how it went. So that was that's just
Speaker 4: the that's one of the stories.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, damn, bro, that was weird.
Speaker 1: Did you ever connect with the producer.
Speaker 3: Never after after that? After I was there for an hour, bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Did she ever say like, oh, come back tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 4: And then when the crazy part of the Dagger through
Speaker 4: the Heart was that the song came out and I
Speaker 4: was like that she was supposed to write on I
Speaker 4: was supposed to be on this song.
Speaker 3: Oh you knew the song that she was supposed to
Speaker 3: be on. Everything did it go big?
Speaker 1: It was? It was?
Speaker 4: It was?
Speaker 3: It was pretty good good. That was the dagger though.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 3: I was like, what did I do?
Speaker 1: Did I do something?
Speaker 3: I pulled up and eat thirty brou.
Speaker 4: I was expected too much.
Speaker 1: Doing too much. Niggas looked at the little thing said, nah,
Speaker 1: he's trying to.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, nah, he got his rig, James, Nah,
Speaker 2: he's trying to be.
Speaker 1: So that was one.
Speaker 3: But me and the person we cool.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 4: That was years ago. It's just funny now. And then alright,
Speaker 4: so another crazy story. This then happened to me, but
Speaker 4: it was it was crazy to witness this. So there
Speaker 4: is a certain somebody that I was on tour with
Speaker 4: and I'm not gonna lie, bro. This person was just
Speaker 4: he was just mean. Bro, he was just mean. Like
Speaker 4: I was on the whole tour and never met the man.
Speaker 4: Hhmm crazy. So one of these days, I don't know
Speaker 4: what city we was in, but you know it was cool.
Speaker 4: We always in the like the little hall loading dock,
Speaker 4: loading dock hallway and there's all this commotion going on outside,
Speaker 4: so we like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 3: So we see him, the person walk in, and he's like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's mad.
Speaker 4: He pushing everybody fuck out my way and this, this
Speaker 4: and that and calling people bitches and holes and.
Speaker 3: To funk out my way. And I kid you not.
Speaker 4: I seen this person spit on a woman security guard
Speaker 4: and I was like, bro, I used to look up
Speaker 4: to you, and I don't care how bad the situation is.
Speaker 4: I'm not spitting on no woman like that's just for
Speaker 4: just she doing her job. And that's That's just one
Speaker 4: of them fucked up stories that I was like, Wow,
Speaker 4: I will never act like that ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 3: So that's why people be like, don't change, don't change.
Speaker 4: I'm like, trust me, don't worry about it, because I've
Speaker 4: seen some ship that I did not want to be.
Speaker 4: I know what that's like, and I've seen how everybody
Speaker 4: in the room is just kind of like the fuck, like,
Speaker 4: so shit, I'm gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't saying names on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's real. Yeah m hmm.
Speaker 4: Right, Look, I'll do one more. I'll do one more
Speaker 4: to get rid of that one so this one's kind
Speaker 4: of funny though. I was on tour with another person
Speaker 4: and this is around the time where they was they
Speaker 4: was blowing up, there was popping, and this was like
Speaker 4: my first solo gig away from the group, first show.
Speaker 4: So we're down in Houston and it's crazy because, like
Speaker 4: you know, I dance, So I was training at this
Speaker 4: this dance studio called so Real Dance Studio, and we
Speaker 4: were prepping for this show.
Speaker 3: And I'm the opening act, but we like prepping and it's.
Speaker 1: That Warehouse Live.
Speaker 4: So you know, I don't know if you know Warehouse
Speaker 4: Live or how big the stage is, but it's pretty big.
Speaker 4: And I'm the opening act. But we prepping have like
Speaker 4: thirty dancers on stage. Like it's like, oh, we're gonna
Speaker 4: go crazy. We're gonna go all out. We in Houston,
Speaker 4: we jazz, you know, we in the city. We're gonna
Speaker 4: go crazy. Ooh, We're going all out.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: It was you know, so that week and rehearsal week,
Speaker 4: hitting the ship. You know what I'm saying, combinations, you
Speaker 4: got girls coming over here, you got the dudes coming over.
Speaker 3: You know, big, this big production right.
Speaker 4: Right, So we get we get to the show, date.
Speaker 4: Everything is amazing. Before the show, sound check incredible, Oh tone,
Speaker 4: you sound good. People coming up, Oh my god, bro,
Speaker 4: who are you? Drake sends me a gift and that's
Speaker 4: not the name drop, but Drake sends me a gift.
Speaker 4: He sends me some some Ovo Ovo tens.
Speaker 3: Signed it, wrote a note. I'm like, damn, this is
Speaker 3: fucking dope.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: I'm like this, my life is changing. My life is changing.
Speaker 3: Get on stage, and.
Speaker 4: A certain somebody there's there's two people in the story
Speaker 4: that I'm not gonna name. For A certain somebody from
Speaker 4: an R and B group that's very well known, advised me,
Speaker 4: and you know who you are.
Speaker 3: I love you, though.
Speaker 4: Advised me to drink olive oil before before my set.
Speaker 4: He said, just drink drink some olive oil. It's going
Speaker 4: it's gonna.
Speaker 3: Clear you up.
Speaker 4: And you know me, it's just the first time without
Speaker 4: the group. I'm nervous, you know what I'm saying. I'm like,
Speaker 4: fuck it, I want to be at my top of
Speaker 4: my game.
Speaker 3: Drank the olive oil. So it comes down to perform.
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, my throat feel hot, Paul, my
Speaker 4: throat feel hot. I'm just like, all right, cool, whatever.
Speaker 4: So I'm out there, you're performing. I tell you, I
Speaker 4: was not hitting my notes, bro.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 4: It was like I was trying and it was slipping.
Speaker 4: Like I wasn't catching no good notes. Man Like, it
Speaker 4: just wasn't happening for me. We out there, all the dances,
Speaker 4: come out, performing and.
Speaker 3: Trying to just do it a lot.
Speaker 4: I get to this break in my set, probably had
Speaker 4: like twenty minutes, get to this breaking my set and
Speaker 4: the crowd. I'm just talking and trying to introduce myself.
Speaker 4: The crowd starts cheering the person's name that I'm opening
Speaker 4: up for. It's too syllable, so they're like, Dad, it's
Speaker 4: like a movie.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't fucking believe this shit.
Speaker 1: So I was.
Speaker 4: I was like, as much as I was nervous that
Speaker 4: that was happening, I got upset and I was like,
Speaker 4: y'all gonna see so and so after I'm done performing,
Speaker 4: I know who y'all came to see.
Speaker 1: Did not see this ship.
Speaker 4: Thirty answers, which finished, gave me these he nailed.
Speaker 3: Yo, and they let me finish my set. They let
Speaker 3: me let me finish my set.
Speaker 4: But yeah, bro, that was a that was a crazy
Speaker 4: experience gave me the gave this is great.
Speaker 3: Drake gave me these man y'all, y'all let me finish.
Speaker 4: Y'all not understand what happened for me today.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I got upset.
Speaker 4: They didn't you they didn't boom me. But but that's
Speaker 4: not a boom. Yes, but it's just it's kind of
Speaker 4: just a bad kind of a book. It's just as
Speaker 4: bad kind of you start said, it's and it's a
Speaker 4: two syllable name, like you could really get a chair.
Speaker 1: On like that, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like getting off the stage.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, bro, I've been there, brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great, that's great. I love it happens to the
Speaker 1: best of us. Bill's character Bill, oh no, tests your character.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if I got your health character there, it is
Speaker 7: turned you into a villain in that moment.
Speaker 4: I remember when we were performing for that Sweet sixteen
Speaker 4: and Niggas O ship. So I said, that can't be
Speaker 4: worse than that.
Speaker 2: It can't be working at least I know I'm going
Speaker 2: to make it home right right, right, you're right niggas
Speaker 2: walking to your get on stage and walk through your.
Speaker 1: Yeah fifty, when the Niggas walked to your it's crazy bro.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, brother Tom, listen, man, you
Speaker 2: know we love you, man, Man, thank you God, I
Speaker 2: love you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for pulling up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to pull up in here with the
Speaker 2: new you know, with the new pop already, man that
Speaker 2: I'm excited for that. I'm excited for you. Man, Man,
Speaker 2: I'm excited. You know, You're just You're just, You're just
Speaker 2: adopt It was an amazing talent man and a great
Speaker 2: human being. It starts there, so you know, in terms
Speaker 2: of you know, in terms of this business that goes
Speaker 2: a long way. Yes, it's gonna go a lot further.
Speaker 1: Than your records. Gotch being a good guy. It will
Speaker 1: sustain you. When you're not the hottest, they will prefer you.
Speaker 3: Gotcha.
Speaker 1: It's good though.
Speaker 2: I like him piece Yeah yeah, trust me, stay there,
Speaker 2: I'm there.
Speaker 3: You don't got worried about me doing stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm Valentine.
Speaker 2: This is the Army Money podcast, the authority on all
Speaker 2: things R and B.
Speaker 1: H youth a cooking. He's right here and it's evidence
Speaker 1: of it. Next the nights, mister Tumbstick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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