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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the Professional Homegirl Podcast. Ishagara

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Speaker 2: ebene here and I am back with an exciting part

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Speaker 2: two of last week's conversation on being a Christian. Now,

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Speaker 2: my guest continues to share her journey die even into

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Speaker 2: her thoughts on the Olympics child, exploring the intersection of

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Speaker 2: Christian beliefs, spirituality versus religion, and so much more. We

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Speaker 2: even got into some listener questions and she prays something

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Speaker 2: serious over the PHG community. So prayer warriors, get ready

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Speaker 2: because I am a Christian. Part two starts now.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that you brought up doing our study was

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Speaker 2: there are some things that Christians practice that you don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that there are some things that have

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Speaker 3: been abused, I would say in Christianity. I've seen that

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Speaker 3: a lot when it comes to people staying in really

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna send you the link I had because

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm doing a men's series now and you

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Speaker 2: actually have a past they're on and he was being

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Speaker 2: amused by his wife and oh, such a great conversation,

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Speaker 2: and people probably would like have told him to stay.

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Speaker 2: Oh they got did tell him to stay exactly.

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Speaker 3: Things like that, you know, things like that I don't

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Speaker 3: really agree with, are just very like segregating ourselves, segregating

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Speaker 3: yourself from the world. You know, what good are we? Like,

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Speaker 3: like Jesus said literally in the Gospels, what good is

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Speaker 3: you know. So there are some things like that. The

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Speaker 3: way that we that we treat women in Christianity sometimes

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Speaker 3: those things really bother me, you know, And so that's

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Speaker 3: that night when I was talking about that, those are

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Speaker 2: You know, you also spoke about when it comes to

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Speaker 3: God will bless you. Since when I tell you, we

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Speaker 3: You know how the people hold they envelopes up with

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Speaker 3: you know, he had us recite money cometh to me,

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Speaker 3: I really for me, as for me in my house,

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Speaker 3: we do believe that we should give to the people

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Speaker 2: And then I'm not mistaken. You also mentioned something about

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that? Yeah? So I because it's funny

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Speaker 3: I met when we were talking about that that night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So what is your advice that you

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, I would say it is important to be

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Speaker 3: feel really good to just be with other believers every week, worshiping,

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Speaker 3: getting the Word. But what I do is make sure

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Speaker 2: She feels like every time she asks somebody this question

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Speaker 3: Let me turn to John fourteen twelve, because I got

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Speaker 2: Twelve, you said, John fourteen twelve.

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Speaker 3: So John fourteen twelve says truly, Truly, I say to you,

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Speaker 3: whoever believes in me will also do the works that

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Speaker 3: you will just continue on the work. You know, you

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Speaker 3: You outlived Jesus, so you literally have opportune time to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so man, Okay. The opening of the Olympics was

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Speaker 3: loves to watch the Olympics and that has always felt

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Speaker 3: I would say that mixing art and religion is risky

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Speaker 3: let's God will not be mocked. Let's just be so real.

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Speaker 3: God is not afraid of the Olympics. Since do some

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Speaker 3: That is interesting? I think that religion as far as

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Speaker 2: So I was very open with you about me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: to kind of like send me this like opportunity to

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Speaker 3: rest or, to have ease to you know what I mean.

435
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Speaker 3: And so I like in First Samuel, when Saul is

436
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: you know, he's upset, he's spirally because he can't address

437
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 3: God anymore. He needs he had that the psychic summon,

438
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: the spirit of Samuel and we see that God. Yeah,

439
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: he was mad and he was like, why have you

440
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: awoken me? Like why have you brought me here? So

441
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: I do think that we see in that that, like

442
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 3: I said, in the spiritual realm, things can be done.

443
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: But what we see in that story also is that

444
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: that was not from that was not God's will or

445
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: his way, and that and Samuel arose. He was irritated

446
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 3: because he was actually eternally resting. And now you have

447
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 3: some you know what I mean, you feel me like

448
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: this raggedy world, and you brought me over here just

449
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: to complain like today like resting grubbing because I feel

450
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: like we're gonna eat good. I don't care because I

451
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 3: like to eat. So we rested, we grabbing. We live

452
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: in our best life, okay. And so yeah, I do

453
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: think that I remember I remember says my well out

454
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: died when I was twenty two, and I was devastated,

455
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: like she just I loved her so much. And I

456
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: remember like maybe six months or so later when she died,

457
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: all all of her sisters died that same year. It

458
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: was crazy, so my thea's they all went one by one,

459
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: and I remember having this vivid dream that she was

460
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 3: in this little kussita. I was like walking through this

461
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 3: desert in Mexico, That's what it looked like. And I

462
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: got to this little casita and her and my thea,

463
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: the one that was her best friend, were in and

464
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: they were just resting. They were in these little chairs

465
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: and they were just resting. And I remember talking to

466
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: trying to get to her, trying to talk to her,

467
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: but she could not hear me. But she looked over

468
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: like in my direction, and she smiled and she just

469
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: looked at ease. I felt like God gave me hope

470
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: that she was just resting now, you know, but it

471
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: felt so vivid, but I couldn't get to her no

472
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: matter how hard I tried in the dream, And I

473
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: think that that was God's reminder that like he actually

474
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 3: has taken care of her and gave me a picture

475
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: to like know that she's okay and it would be okay. Yeah. Yeah,

476
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: so I think I've had experiences like that.

477
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: You know, do you believe in angels?

478
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe in angels. I think we see angels

479
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: all throughout the scripture. You know. They came talked to Mary,

480
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: told her she's gonna be pregnant with Jesus. They came

481
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: wrestled with Satan for the bones of Moses. Like, yeah,

482
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: I do for sure. I believe that God sends angels

483
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: on assignment. I do. Yeah.

484
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: And do you believe that we are that we are

485
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: currently in a spiritual warfare?

486
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 3: A million per yeah, a million percent. I think that

487
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: we are individually we have warfare, and I think that

488
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: as a whole. I think that there is a realm, a.

489
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: Spirit spiritual realm, yeah, that exists, and.

490
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: That is literally at war until Jesus comes back and

491
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: makes it all end once and for all.

492
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is random. Do you believe in aliens?

493
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: I don't, Okay, I don't you know, I don't. But

494
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: my brother been trying to really convince me, even trying

495
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: to give me sis.

496
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: Because aliens in Miami.

497
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I want to see it.

498
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: I just want, you know, feel.

499
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

500
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: How do you keep your faith strong in a world

501
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: that can sometimes feel hostile?

502
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: Oh?

503
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: Girls, so hostile. I be tired when I tell you,

504
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: I be tired, But the Bible says it will break you, girl,

505
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 3: And I tell you, and lately I have actually felt

506
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: so weary sis, Like in I think in Philippius Paul

507
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: said for me to live is Christ, and to die

508
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: is gain. When he said and to die is gain,

509
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: sometimes I feel that to just be done with all

510
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: the things in this world, because it's so heavy and

511
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: so hard. But how do I keep my faith is

512
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: because before that he said, for me to live is

513
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: Christ and so and when he said that, I'm reminded

514
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: of one of my life verses from Galatians two twenty says,

515
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer

516
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 3: I who live the life I now live. I live

517
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: by faith in the Son of God, who loved me

518
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: and gave himself for me. And that is what keeps

519
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: me going, is that I know every day when I

520
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: wake up, I do this, and I make my sons

521
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: do it. When I see them in the morning, take

522
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: a deep breath, and when they exhale, I say, thank

523
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: you God for the breath and our lungs. May I

524
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: use every breath to return you your praise. So if

525
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: I have breath in my lungs, I know that God

526
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: put it there, and so that keeps me going because

527
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: that means He's not done with me yet. That means

528
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: I'm not done yet, And that's exciting. There's something exciting

529
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: about that.

530
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: One of my favorite saying is, as long as I

531
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: have breath of my lungs, I will always have options.

532
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: At girl like truly, there's some days when I go

533
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: to sleep so weary and so broken down by this world.

534
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: Says that when I wake up the next day, I'm like, Okay,

535
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: I'm a little excited because I'm awake. I'm alive. So

536
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: that means that there's something, really, something's gonna happen. You're

537
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: gonna do something because I'm still here, you know, And

538
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: I told you that I wasn't supposed to be here.

539
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: It's so funny because my dad is the youngest of nine, right,

540
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: and my grandma always tells this story. We do and

541
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: my husband is one of like twelve, so we yeah,

542
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: we have big families, you girl, we done. And so

543
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: she always tells the story of how after her eighth child,

544
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: she had an appointment to go get her tube side

545
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: and she didn't have a babysitter, so she couldn't make it.

546
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, she was pregnant with my dad.

547
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: Then I told you about my mom. You know, she

548
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: she was a scared teenager hav another that she was

549
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: gonna get abortioned stopped it. Then I almost died in

550
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: labor with my son. There is a reason why I'm

551
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: on earth because my granny didn't want to have another bath.

552
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: Then my daddy was born. My mom didn't think she

553
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: could have me. Then I was born. The doctors was like, hey,

554
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: your wife probably not gonna make it. When I was

555
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 3: birthing that child, bleeding out on that table, and then

556
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm still here. There's a reason, And to me, that's enough.

557
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: That's enough reason for hope.

558
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: You know, how do you respond to people who asked,

559
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: why would a loving God allow bad things to happen?

560
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: I've wrestled with that all the time. That thought, now

561
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: that's a real answer is you know. But but when

562
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm separating my logic and reason from my faith and

563
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: I go back to attach myself to my faith, I

564
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: remember that God made it very clear that Satan is

565
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: the ruler of this world, and we know that Satan

566
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: loves bad things. What I do know is that in eternity,

567
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: when it's time to go and be home, there will

568
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: be no more of that. But this world, it is

569
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: the ugly and evil place. And as long as we

570
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: are here, we will endure. And God made that clear

571
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: from jump and so he is a man of his word,

572
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: you know, and so he will he let us know

573
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: the world is going to be an ugly place.

574
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: So how can believers find a balance between accepting God's

575
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: ways but also seek and understand and during times of suffering?

576
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: I think you know, Like I was telling you earlier,

577
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: one thing that I pray is that I ask God

578
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: for something, and then before I close it out, I say,

579
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: but help me to cope with the outcome if it

580
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: is not what I am crying out to you for.

581
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: And I think that we've seen like you lost your

582
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: grandmother and that was severe grief for you. But when

583
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: I met you at that retreat, all I saw was

584
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: joy and grace and beauty and intelligence and purpose. That

585
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: means that there was a day when there was a

586
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: time for weeping, and there was a time for rejoicing.

587
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: There was a time that we're filled with ashes, and

588
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: then there's a time for beauty. And I just try

589
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: to cling to that. And it scares me to think

590
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: of what trials I might endure in this life. It

591
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: does scare me. I am a making and I don't

592
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: like pain, and I don't like grief, you know, but

593
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: I know that weeping will only last for a night.

594
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: Enjoy will come.

595
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: It comes in the morning, baby, come on now.

596
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Or like proverb says, hope deferd makes the

597
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: heart sick, but belonging fulfilled is like a tree of life.

598
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: I know that one day I will eat from that

599
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: tree of life, even if in this moment, right now,

600
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: my heart is sick.

601
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Facts, So how do you discern God's will for

602
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: your life?

603
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: That's also been hard for me. I told you I

604
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: was wrestling with God, and sometimes I am still like, Okay,

605
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: So I have this thing where I believe we all

606
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: are purposed for the same thing. When Jesus told his

607
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: disciples before he is a to de Heaven, go make

608
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: disciples of all nations. So I feel like we all

609
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: have a purpose to love God, love people. You know,

610
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: when it comes to like what I feel called to do,

611
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: I read this quote that said you know you're you're

612
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: living in your calling when your deep gladness meets a

613
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: deep hunger and need in the world. And I think

614
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: that when I feel that deep gladness as I'm meeting

615
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: a need, that is God's will for my life, and

616
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: I really try to hone in on that, you know

617
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: what I mean, and pursue that. And I and you know,

618
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: you know, when you're doing something that you just love

619
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: and then when you see fruit come from it, it's

620
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: doubly sweet. And so I attach myself to that, you know.

621
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: And I do pray Lord, if there is a door

622
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: that I'm not supposed to walk to, slam it in

623
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: my face so hard that it knocks me off my feet.

624
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: I pray that every time you slam it.

625
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: But because I'm stubborn, I'll try to kick that door open. Okay,

626
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: I'll try to Okay, So I need him to knock

627
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: me off my feet. I need him to Like I'm

628
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: like Jacob, I'll wrestle with an angel. He's gonna have

629
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: to break my hip, Okay.

630
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: So, and I still might get up swinging.

631
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: I still I'm limping, but I'm swinging. Yeah.

632
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: You know, you made a good point, because that's how

633
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: I know that I'm walking in my purpose because it

634
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: feels good. And I think that's the reason why I

635
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 2: haven't stopped, because like I knew, like God has already

636
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: showed me what's already done. I think that I just

637
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: struggle with like, when is gonna happen?

638
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: Girl? The timing, That's what it has to me. Yeah,

639
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: growing impatient, But like I said earlier in scripture says,

640
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: do not grow weary and doing good, for in due

641
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: time you will reap a harvest for your labor. In

642
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 3: due time, you will reap a harvest for your labor.

643
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: I attach myself to that verse all the time because

644
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: it gets tiring waiting. I'm tired. I'm tired right now,

645
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: no joke, baby, you feel me. But you know, since

646
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: I think about like Joseph, you know, God gave him

647
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: those dreams when he was a young boy, and he

648
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: didn't just awake from the sleep and live out that dream. No,

649
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: he was beaten, he was enslaved, he was wrongfully imprisoned,

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Speaker 3: he was decades in that mess. And then he sat

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Speaker 3: there and he looked at his brothers when he finally

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Speaker 3: reunited with them, and he said, that thing that you

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Speaker 3: meant for evil, God has used to bring me here.

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Speaker 3: And I'm reminded of that when it feels like it

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Speaker 3: has taken a little too long. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, facts, facts, facts, and last one, not least,

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Speaker 2: what advice would you give to someone who is new to.

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Speaker 3: God, I would say, attach yourself to a good community

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Speaker 3: in Christ, a good community of believers that will spur

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Speaker 3: you on, that will spur you on, and that will

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Speaker 3: see you through hand in hand, so that you're not

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Speaker 3: running your race in vain and that you're not growing weary.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing like having that sister in Christ

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Speaker 3: that reminds you facts lift your head.

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Speaker 2: You know, let's just about your head.

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Speaker 3: Unbowed your head. Yes, let's go to God. Let's take

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Speaker 3: that to the Lord. You know, there's been time since

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Speaker 3: where I'm in deep grief and deep anguish and deep pain.

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Speaker 3: And you know who's right there, not actually my family,

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Speaker 3: it's not actually my siblings, but my sisters in Christ

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Speaker 3: every single time, and that they see me through. And

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Speaker 3: so attach yourself to somebody who will see you through.

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Speaker 3: You know, we were made for community, and like Ecclesiastes says,

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Speaker 3: we are better together.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think this was a beautiful, beautiful conversation.

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Speaker 2: I am just so thank you. Every time I have

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Speaker 2: somebody of your caliber who I know have a direct

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Speaker 2: line to God, I always ask them to end us

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Speaker 2: with a prayer. So whatever is on y'all all right,

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Speaker 2: please do share.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, well, gracious Heavenly Father, I just

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Speaker 3: come to you tonight, and when I just thank you

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Speaker 3: for this community here that Ebana has built with this podcast. Lord,

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Speaker 3: I thank you that you have given her a voice

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Speaker 3: and that she is using it. Lord, I just want

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Speaker 3: to pray over that voice. I pray right now that

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Speaker 3: you will send Heaven's armies to surround her and to

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Speaker 3: protect her. Lord, that any weapon that tries to form

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Speaker 3: against her will not prosper, but will be torn down

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Speaker 3: by the angels that surround her. Lord Father, I pray

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Speaker 3: that you will constantly draw her nearer to you, so

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00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: that her audience may get the best of her. Because

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Speaker 3: we know that we are our best when we are

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Speaker 3: in our creator, Father, when we are walking out our

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00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: purpose with the one who purposed us. Oh my gosh,

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00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: beautiful things come. So Lord, if this podcast is a garden,

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00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 3: we give her every tool she needs. Will you keep

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00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: the soil rich? Will you keep the sun un shining?

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00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: Will you allowed everything that grows from it to be beautiful?

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Speaker 3: Will you allow her garden to be lush? Lord, And

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00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: that anybody who picks the flowers or the fruit from

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00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: it will be blessed by it. God. I thank you

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Speaker 3: Lord that despite the troubles in this world, despite the

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00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 3: pains and the griefs and the longings, you never change,

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Speaker 3: and you never lift your hand from us. Lord, Will

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Speaker 3: you protect my sister? Will you protect this community? And

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00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: will you lead her and all of your truth and

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00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: in all of your righteousness God, that she may continue

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00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: to be the woman that you have called her to be.

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00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: And will you sharpen her daily, restore her and renew

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00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: her daily? Father, And that beautiful smile that graces us

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Speaker 3: every time, will you keep that on her face? Lord,

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00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: because she has joy as a fruit of the spirit,

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00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: not as the fruit of the circumstances in this world.

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Speaker 3: So may she attach herself to you so that that

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Speaker 3: joy that she experiences never runs dry, because you Lord,

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00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: never run dry. In Jesus name, pray.

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Speaker 2: Come on, now, that's how you do that.

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Speaker 3: Baby. I love you so much.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, I love you so much, sir. Thank you

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Speaker 2: think you think you think you? Thank you? This has

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Speaker 2: been an excellent conversation at one o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 2: but I would have not anywhere else.

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Speaker 3: You coffee on me tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, no, thank you so much. I know words,

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Speaker 2: this was amazing. I'm pretty sure that this is definitely

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Speaker 2: gonna start some conversations with people with themselves when it

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Speaker 2: comes to the relationship with guys. So thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for being on the show and to the listeners. Yes,

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Speaker 2: to the listeners. If you have any questions, commings, or concerns,

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Speaker 2: please make sure to email me at Hello at the

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Speaker 2: PHG podcast dot com. Like I always say, share your

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Speaker 2: storyline because you never know how it can be somebody

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Speaker 2: else's lifeline. Until next time. Everyone, Later you're gonna say

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Speaker 2: bye bye. Come on, Prayer Warrior you guys.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm just all thinking, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: look at my fists out here doing this beautiful work.

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Speaker 2: Later, y'all. The Professional Homegirl Podcast is a production of

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