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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty Armstrong and Dickie and he

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Speaker 2: Armsrong Kennedy live from the studio.

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Speaker 1: Se Se Sen, you are a dimly lit room.

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Speaker 2: He put in the powels of the Armstrong and Getting

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Speaker 2: Communications Compound. Hey, y'all, Tuesday, we're under the tutelage of

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Speaker 2: our general manager.

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Speaker 1: Hey, who is your laderman? Your local air traffic controllers?

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Speaker 1: Why is that our general manager?

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Speaker 3: Our nation's idiotic, antiquated, dysfunctional, dangerous air traffic control system

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Speaker 3: is under scrutiny, and by Gully, the Secretary of Transportation.

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Speaker 3: In contrast to the last one, it was useless.

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Speaker 1: He says he's gonna fix it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a major all overall bring it into

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Speaker 3: the twenty first century.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll believe that when I see it. I believe it.

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Speaker 1: I believe it firmly.

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Speaker 2: There is a guy in the White House, mister non believer,

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Speaker 2: who was willing to shake things up. I was reading

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Speaker 2: about the contrast between Pete boot Ed Jedge, who kept

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Speaker 2: trying to blame the airlines for the miserable state of

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Speaker 2: our air traffic control system.

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Speaker 3: And Trump's guy is saying, no, this is terrible. We've

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Speaker 3: got to rebuild it. That we've got to take on

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Speaker 3: that challenge.

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Speaker 2: It's great, that is good, but how has it been

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Speaker 2: this bad for this long? The stories yesterday of well,

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Speaker 2: fill us in on the headline story that got this

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Speaker 2: conversation started yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Well, there was a loss of radar availability for sixty

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Speaker 3: to ninety seconds at the incredibly busy, dysfunctional Newark Airport

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Speaker 3: right outside of New York City and forty thousand pass

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Speaker 3: It carries forty thousand passengers day, and it left the

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Speaker 3: control tower unable to communicate with any incoming aircraft, which

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Speaker 3: led to all sorts of chaos and fear and then

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Speaker 3: cascading delays.

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Speaker 2: And for just a minute and a half, they couldn't

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Speaker 3: Was, and the pilots were just talking to each other saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: I just heard that they've got no radar contact.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, holy cow?

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so everybody was just kind of improvising and

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Speaker 3: then trying to stay safe during that time. But it

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Speaker 3: is a beautiful example which was well, I guess so

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Speaker 3: animated and started literally pounding the table. It is a

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Speaker 3: perfect example of nobody in government willing to say this

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Speaker 3: needs to be fixed. Here's what needs to be fixed,

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Speaker 3: here's how we're going to fix it. Let's do this.

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Speaker 2: No, they just collect their paychecks and shuffle their paper. Well, right,

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Speaker 2: get into how long this has been going on. So

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Speaker 2: then the stories throughout the day of like they got

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Speaker 2: computers running floppy discs. Yeah, I mean so how many

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Speaker 2: decades ago is that?

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Speaker 1: The eighties?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, administration after minute stra has just kind of kicked

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Speaker 3: the can down the road, to cite the cliche.

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Speaker 2: So that's the frustrating thing, and everybody should be frustrated.

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Speaker 2: But even if you're a big government liberal, you should

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Speaker 2: be frustrated by that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: But we spend so much freaking money on so many

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Speaker 2: freaking things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 2: Can't update a computer in air traffic control from something

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Speaker 2: that uses floppy disks along the way.

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Speaker 3: Well, if there were three competing companies and private companies

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Speaker 3: and one of them was run that poorly, it would

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Speaker 3: go out of business. And and good riddance to it,

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Speaker 3: because it's a government monopoly. It continues with its its awful, wasteful,

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Speaker 3: dangerous dysfunction, you know, year after a year, but not anymore.

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Speaker 3: I say, put him in alcatra. Whoever is in charge

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Speaker 3: of that, put him in Alcola drive. Yes, everything. Trump

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Speaker 3: doubled down. He said, you know who else will put

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Speaker 3: an alcatraz? Those judges who won't let us do our immigration.

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Speaker 1: Yes. I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, fill it up and then like go upward, make

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Speaker 3: it four or five stories high, whatever it takes.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna put the judges in alcatraz. I feel like

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Speaker 2: that's a controversial statement.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but he didn't mean it, Which brings me to

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Speaker 3: another thing I'm kind of anxious to talk about, excited

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Speaker 1: Nobody paid attention other than a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Snippets to Trump's commencement speech at University of Alabama. Matthew

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Speaker 3: Countinetti did. He watched the whole thing, and he said

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Speaker 3: it was really an amazing distillation of Trump's life philosophy,

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Speaker 3: and it struck me in reading it. Essentially, Trump goes

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Speaker 3: through the ten points he thinks are most important for

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Speaker 3: being successful in life.

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Speaker 1: And number one get a hot wife.

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Speaker 3: It struck me, and then Trader in when you know

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Speaker 3: you get tired of her. It struck me that the

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Speaker 3: media especially spends a lot of time talking about stuff

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Speaker 3: Trump clearly doesn't mean, and then ignores when he says,

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Speaker 3: all right, here's what I really believe. And he's clearly

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Speaker 3: being sincere because it's not as exciting. But we'll go

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Speaker 3: through that speech. I think you'll find it interesting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: It won't be nearly as fascinating as the incritasies of

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Speaker 3: air traffic control, but it'll be good.

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 2: I think today's my last day. I think today's the

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Speaker 2: day I finally die from this disease I've got. So

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Speaker 2: I suppose anything I've got to say I should say today.

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Speaker 1: Since I'm probably gonna die.

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Speaker 3: How does it work with your last words? I mean,

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Speaker 3: at doing what we do for a living. You could say, okay,

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Speaker 3: these are my last words. The only thing that matters

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Speaker 3: is family and God. But then by contract, we have

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Speaker 3: to keep talking. So and you'd hate for your last

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Speaker 3: words to be We'll talk about Trump's commencement speech in

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Speaker 3: just a minute.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us. You know that would be dumb trouble

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Speaker 2: with the royal family. Those are my last words. That'd

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Speaker 3: The conclave stretches on, will bring you an update. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that would that would be terrible. So let's just designate

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Speaker 3: your last words then I will I will agree to

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Speaker 3: promote them as quote unquote your last words, right, that

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Speaker 2: Yes, historians, because historians have obviously would be writing about me,

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Speaker 2: would say his last words were highlights from the Diddy trial.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows why my last words are my last words?

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Speaker 2: Will be a list of the people I hate the most.

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Speaker 2: That'll be That's what I'm going to go with. The

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Speaker 2: enemy's list, exactly. Vengeance right right to the grave.

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Speaker 1: Right, that is healthy.

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Speaker 2: Take keep breath right right as they're lowering you, you

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Speaker 2: should be muttering the names of those.

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Speaker 1: You hope to take vengeance against in the afterlife.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and my fourth grade gym teacher him, let's start

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Speaker 2: the show officially.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack Armstrong.

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Speaker 2: He's Joe Getty on this It is Tuesday, monthly in

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Speaker 2: now May the six, the year twenty twenty five, war

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Speaker 2: armstrung and getting we approved of this program.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's begin then officially, according to FCC rules and regulations.

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Speaker 1: The show starts at mark.

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Speaker 2: His lawyers are aiming to convince the jury the government

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Speaker 2: is trying to police consensual sex by a swinger who

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Speaker 2: they say invited others into his bedroom. Yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: heavy hand of the law.

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Speaker 1: Wow, consensual adult sex.

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Speaker 3: Right, Friends and neighbors getting together with a createle loob

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Speaker 3: and enjoying each other's company.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? Wow? Bunch of puritans? Right? Poor?

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Speaker 1: Did he being persecuted? Oh my god, that's the defense.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 1: Well, and he's got a hell of a team of lawyers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, we if you're old enough to remember, OJ,

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Speaker 2: you know, you have some really good, expensive lawyers.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing what they can come up with.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna hearton himself said that the colors of justice

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Speaker 3: are not black and white.

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Speaker 1: The color of justice is green. If you're on that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, So Jay, if you're on that jury, are you

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Speaker 2: going to hear and see some pretty sexy stuff?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's gonna be hardcore porn really in short?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's accurate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose there'll be a bunch of women and

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Speaker 2: men there describing in great detail what they did.

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Speaker 1: Or were forced to do well.

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Speaker 3: And remember, dude kept loads of video right partly to

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Speaker 3: enforce omerta. Is that all it's silence, the code of silence? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if it's entered into evidence, you got to

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Speaker 2: let the jury see it.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: It'd be easy to get distracted as a jur Oh

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it could cause unwanted emotional and physical reactions

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Speaker 3: as you're trying to figure out whether this guy's a

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Speaker 2: Probably shouldn't like you throw on the jury and you

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Speaker 2: finally get to your first deliberation. You get in there

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Speaker 2: your favorite part? O? What my favorite part was. Hey,

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Speaker 2: just it's just somebody, it's just everybody lay out.

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Speaker 3: What do you think was the hottest part? Oh, my god,

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Speaker 3: that's I'll bet it's it ends up just being troubling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be, because there's so much violence and

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, given his violence against women and testimony

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Speaker 2: I wonder how many famous people are worried about their

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Speaker 1: It might be a probably a good number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, certainly if you're a New York hip hop

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Speaker 3: name and face attached to some of those parties if.

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Speaker 1: People otherwise didn't know you were, you know, adjacent.

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Speaker 3: To that lifestyle, right, Yeah, I don't have a firm grasp,

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Speaker 3: No pun intended on.

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Speaker 2: Charge you with a thousand bottles of baby oiled to

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Speaker 2: have a firm grasp to anything, very slipper.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a firm grasp on the list of

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it'll be uh, it'll be notable.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm always confused with the jury stuff. So

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Speaker 2: do you you have to You can't find people that

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Speaker 2: don't know anything about it. You have to find people

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Speaker 2: who basically say, I've heard about it, but I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I just oll like I can. I'll keep it up

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Speaker 1: in mind. I think I could I really do.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, Well, for one thing, i'd consider it

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Speaker 2: like a sacred vow under the Constitution. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: got the idea that, yeah, he's kind of a perv

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Speaker 2: and may have done these things, but now the government

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Speaker 1: More to come, Armstrong and Getty games off to Brown

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Speaker 3: career together, and that is that as we rose up

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Speaker 3: from from small towns to medium to big towns to giant,

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Speaker 3: you know, the number one media market in the world

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Speaker 3: or in the country. Certainly, we had expected that we

445
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Speaker 3: would see higher and higher levels of competence, intelligence, creativity,

446
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Speaker 3: just effectiveness in short, and there wasn't none of that.

447
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Speaker 1: But there wasn't nearly as much as we thought.

448
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Speaker 2: And there were a plenty of dopes and ineffective people

449
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Speaker 2: and fools at the at the highest levels. They were

450
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Speaker 2: just wrong about stuff.

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Speaker 3: And it's so difficult, I think for most Americans to imagine,

452
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Speaker 3: for instance, the incredible dishonesty and incompetence of the Biden

453
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Speaker 3: White House. You've got a senile fool. I mean, he's

454
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Speaker 3: always been a fool, come on, but a senile fool

455
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Speaker 3: announcing unconstitutional programs, denying what was clearly true, steering the

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Speaker 3: ship of state directly into an iceberg. Also, they could

457
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Speaker 3: hang on to their jobs for one more term, get

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Speaker 3: the old man through the election, then we'll know, we'll

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Speaker 3: figure out what to do that. But the important part

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Speaker 3: is we keep our jobs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the West wing of the White House was those people.

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Speaker 2: And it's not impossible to believe.

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Speaker 3: Trump's got some people around him who may be a

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Speaker 3: little overconfident about one idea or another.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, as I have said over and over again, and

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Speaker 2: I mean it, I want to be wrong. I will

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Speaker 2: happily say, look, wow, they knew what they were doing

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Speaker 2: all along.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have doubted them. Look at me, I'm an idiot.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine saying that six months from now, a year

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Speaker 2: from now, if this all turns out, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Share hope it does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just my My great hope is that a

476
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Speaker 3: lot of the tariff talk is bluff to get better

477
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Speaker 3: trade deals, because our trade deals, many of them, are

478
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Speaker 3: bad and can be improved. And all the stuff about

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Speaker 3: oh I love tariffs, we're gonna we're gonna solve the budget,

480
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Speaker 3: We're gonna pay off the debt with tariffs. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: on shore all the manufacturing. That's it's a bluff. That'd

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Speaker 3: be fine if it works. And besides, you'll have too

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Speaker 3: many pencils anyway. I'm disgusted by the number of pencils

484
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Speaker 3: you people have. I look at you, either come out

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Speaker 3: of your ears, out of your pockets. Oh, pencils everywhere exactly. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 3: that actually factors in a mailbag, weirdly enough, Yes, Michael.

487
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Speaker 2: Jon Stewart has a funny clip about Trump and his

488
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Speaker 2: view of toys.

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Speaker 4: Oh on, they don't need to have two hundred and

490
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Speaker 4: fifty pencils, they can have five.

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Speaker 5: Trump has such a Depression era of view of what

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Speaker 5: kids play with in twenty twenty five. Tends don't need

493
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Speaker 5: twenty sets of those hoops you hit with a stick

494
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Speaker 5: as you go down the street.

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Speaker 1: Just one hoop is Jim Dandy.

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Speaker 3: So he used some odd examples, the point being yes,

497
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Speaker 3: cheap Chinese goods and consumerism, etc.

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Speaker 1: I'm on board coming up later.

499
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Speaker 3: I'm working on crafting this in a way that does

500
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Speaker 3: not drain your life force from you and make you

501
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Speaker 3: wish for death. The upcoming battle over Medicaid is so important,

502
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Speaker 3: and it is going to be some of the worst,

503
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 3: most stupid demagogy politics you've ever seen in your life.

504
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: In fact, it's already begun. The Republicans are coming after

505
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Speaker 3: your medicaid. Medicaid is a scam, not not at its core,

506
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Speaker 3: but it's become this money spigot, state government scam that

507
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Speaker 3: needs so desperately to be straightened out, and it the

508
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Speaker 3: amount of growth in Medicaid dwarfs all the other social

509
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Speaker 3: security type programs. The entitlement programs really important. We'll try

510
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Speaker 3: to explain it in a way that is understandable. What

511
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Speaker 3: did you get What time did you get back from

512
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Speaker 3: the met gala last night? I know you were your

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Speaker 3: giant Statue of Liberty costume. Oh like two thirty in

514
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Speaker 3: the morning, right, Yeah, Well, I went to an after party,

515
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Speaker 3: then an after after party. I was at jay Z's

516
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Speaker 3: after party. You know, we talked a little about Diddy,

517
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Speaker 3: but you kept your voice down, and.

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Speaker 2: I saw you with a Kadashian Al Sharpton. Yeah, some

519
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Speaker 2: twenty five year old pop singer.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. Yeah, Oduo Lipa.

521
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Speaker 3: We danced a lot and she tried to make a move.

522
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: It was late, she was drunk. I said, no, no,

523
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm married. No, hey, this has been fun, but hands off, sweetheart,

524
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Speaker 3: and I knew it was time to go home.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. You don't want to get yourself in trouble. So

526
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Speaker 2: we got mail bag coming up next day. Here, this

527
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Speaker 2: is a good text. We got Sean Diddy. Combs is

528
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Speaker 2: guilty of one thing. He loved too much and way

529
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Speaker 2: too weirdly.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: To continue our discussion from the last segment, a longtime

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Speaker 3: friend of mine In Friend of the Show, Mike the

533
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: Lawyer in Chicago says there's an incredible bias in the

534
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: legal community of big city lawyers against country lawyers. They

535
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: think they're smarter and better because they make more money.

536
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: But there's also a saying among lawyers with wisdom that says,

537
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Speaker 3: somebody tells you I'm just a country.

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Speaker 1: Lawyer, You're probably going to lose.

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Speaker 3: They're just as bright, if not brighter, than so many

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Speaker 3: city lawyers.

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Speaker 1: Center. That's funny.

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Speaker 2: I got a friend who moved from California to Tennessee

543
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: and his kids. He's not a California He's from the Midwest. Actually,

544
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Speaker 2: he moved with his family who had grown up in

545
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Speaker 2: California to Tennessee small town, and his kids thought they

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Speaker 2: were going to walk into school and be so far

547
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Speaker 2: ahead all and they were so far behind all the

548
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Speaker 2: other kids.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he said.

550
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Speaker 2: Everybody in the California thinks they're smarter than everybody else,

551
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Speaker 2: but they're not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: How interesting. Yeah, some of the best, most talented people

554
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: we've ever known in the radio business decided, no, I'm

555
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Speaker 3: going to make my life and raise my children in

556
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati or you know, Jolie Illinois or whatever. They're every

557
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: bit as talented and smart as anybody else. They just

558
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: made a different life choice.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Here's to you in your life choices, friends, Here's your

561
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Speaker 3: freedom loving quote of the day from the great Patrick Henry.

562
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Speaker 3: The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will

563
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Speaker 3: be secure when the transactions of their rulers may be

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Speaker 3: concealed from them. Oh Man, Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, that's that

565
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: you're resting in peace right now.

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Speaker 1: You have no idea.

567
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: The transactions of our rulers are so incredibly opaque and

568
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: complex it would take a lifetime study to understand one

569
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Speaker 3: one thousandth of them.

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Speaker 1: Mailbag, Well, we'll keep trying.

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Speaker 3: Drop his note mail bag at Armstrong you getty dot

572
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Speaker 3: com is our email address.

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Speaker 1: Mail bagget Armstrong, you getty dot com.

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Speaker 3: On the topic of the rock reopening, Alcatraz is a

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Speaker 3: prison Alvin and Berkeley right there by the ock, says

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Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi can see Alcatraz from her mansion on Russian Hill.

577
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: Should she be worried?

578
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Speaker 2: I hope so he can a stick Nancy Pelosi at Alcatraz.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: Back to the kentupy can Entucky derby horse. Not to

581
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: beat a dead horse, but rites Kevin, I was thinking,

582
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Speaker 3: what could be even more appropriate than a horse named

583
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Speaker 3: Sovereignty to win the Kentucky Derby.

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Speaker 2: Under our current political climate would.

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Speaker 3: Have been the horse named journalism win, only to have

586
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Speaker 3: been disqualified later for doping while beaten ridden by an

587
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Speaker 3: illegal alien MS thirteen gang member with a free Palestine

588
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: neck tattoo. That's about the state of journalism. Yes, journalism

589
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: the horse performed well better than journalism the profession, but

590
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Speaker 3: it did not win. If Journalism the profession ran in

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Speaker 3: the Kentucky Derby, it would have stumbled out of the

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Speaker 3: gate and crawled to the finish an hour after the

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Speaker 3: other horses had won or finished. There's nothing but Congress

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Speaker 3: with a lower approval rating than journalism. Right now, let's

595
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Speaker 3: see different topic. Trump's dolls and pencils. Eric, who is

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Speaker 3: a construction guy, says, dere big freedoman jack the What

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Speaker 3: does that say?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: On the topic of abundance and pencils. I use the

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Speaker 3: pencils from our home for my professional fence gardening layout stuff,

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Speaker 3: and I get the idea. Sometimes they disappear because he's

602
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: using them for work. This irritated the Princess. I turned

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Speaker 3: to Amazon where I purchased three hundred pencils for a

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Speaker 3: few ducats. I proceeded to add pencils to every possible

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Speaker 3: place in our home. We need to keep our trade

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Speaker 3: relations with China, so it can continue to troll my

607
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: wife or we could be adults. So she was gripe

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Speaker 3: and had him for their lack of pencils, So he

609
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: bought three hundred of them and sprinkles them everywhere.

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Speaker 1: That is some good marital trolling.

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Speaker 2: I remember when I was that way with the kids

612
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Speaker 2: when they were little. I get so frustrated over there

613
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Speaker 2: was never a binkie around when I needed one. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to have so many binkies in the house that

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Speaker 2: you walked ankle deepened binkies from room to room so

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Speaker 2: there was always one at hand.

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Speaker 3: M let's see mess rights, Dear ang. This includes a

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Speaker 3: coarse word for testicles, and I apologize for using it

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Speaker 3: in advance. Once again, you two of parading around the

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00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: unwelcome idea that microplastics and men's balls are the reason

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Speaker 3: for declining birth rates. I say, nay, I blame American chicks.

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Speaker 1: Think about it.

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Speaker 3: Plastics started taking a foothold in the sixties. Feminism took

624
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Speaker 3: a stronger foothold in the sixties.

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Speaker 1: The timeline for both fits.

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Speaker 3: But are other species also showing the precipitous decline in

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Speaker 3: birth rates? Have baboons lost their desire to mate? Our

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Speaker 3: raccoons invulnerable to having plastic in their balls, even though

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Speaker 3: they wallow around in our dumpsters? And are the men

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Speaker 3: in Afghanistan and every other neanderthal country somehow more resilient

631
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Speaker 3: to the microplastics?

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Speaker 1: Imp? No, they all do lack feminism.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't know about that point, but yeah, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be effecting the birth rate of your

635
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Speaker 2: hellholes for whatever reason. And they got as much plastic,

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Speaker 2: if not more, right? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't That's an interesting thought. I don't know,

638
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: but I appreciate the note. How about this? John no

639
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: Age rites guys? Uh oh omg. He writes, he listened

640
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: to the podcast yesterday. I've officially been lectured more by

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00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: you than my own mother about having kids sooner rather

642
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: than later. I'm starting to get antsy over here listening

643
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: to the podcast. Let's not make this a regular thing. No,

644
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Speaker 3: I was not hectoring anybody to having kids, have kids younger.

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Speaker 3: I was just saying that having Judy and I had

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Speaker 3: our kids young by today's standards, and you never hear

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Speaker 3: anybody advocating for the ways in which that's really really good.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's better. I'm not saying you should.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that nobody ever explains the advantages of it,

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Speaker 2: for some reason, because you're going against the tide, I

651
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Speaker 2: guess or the.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the advantages seem obvious, and

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Speaker 1: I did it the other way around. Yeah. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's see do we have time for this year? We

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Speaker 1: do excellent.

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Speaker 3: Frequent correspondent Powello writes, guys, there's some controversy over the

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Speaker 3: public funding of religious schools. I should mention I've got

658
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Speaker 3: some trumpy emails here for mailbag, but we've talked enough

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00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: about Trump this hour, so kind of skip them for now.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to them later.

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Speaker 3: But there's some controversy about the public funding of religious

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Speaker 3: schools because that could amount to state sponsored religion.

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Speaker 1: That would not be good, and he quotes The New

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Speaker 1: York Times.

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Speaker 3: The main question in the case is whether the First

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Speaker 3: Amendment permits states to sponsor and if finance, religious charge schools.

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Speaker 3: In other words, the Supreme Court is deciding whether charter schools,

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Speaker 3: which are publicly funded and privately run are fundamentally private

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Speaker 3: or public, and Paolo says, that's fine question, but why

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Speaker 3: does it matter? The relevant question is how do we

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Speaker 3: most effectively teach children the things that we all agree

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Speaker 3: are important for them to learn, and not impose a

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Speaker 3: state sponsored religion while we're doing it.

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Speaker 1: How about this, there's.

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Speaker 3: The three RS set of things everybody. Everybody agrees we

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Speaker 3: want children to be taught. Any schools certified to teach

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Speaker 3: that required curriculum can teach it. The state will provide

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Speaker 3: schools that teach that curriculum and only that curriculum public schools,

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Speaker 3: or it will call those. In addition, the state will

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Speaker 3: pay any school certified to teach the required curriculum some

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Speaker 3: fixed amounts, and the schools so certified will be measured

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Speaker 3: by testing whatever means are appropriate to you. Sure they're

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Speaker 3: effectively teaching anything else they teach beyond that is What

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Speaker 3: is required is between the parents and the schools. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't add up to the states sponsoring a religion. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree completely, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: School choice Friends, school choice.

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Speaker 3: More and more states are are moving more and more

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Speaker 3: in that direction, and as we discussed several days ago,

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Speaker 3: the data so far is glowing school choice works.

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