WEBVTT - Draft Talk with Daniel Jeremiah 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:06.480 To be be Around the NFL podcast attended every WrestleMania and 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:11.039 recalls very little. Welcome to another edition to the Around 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:15.160 the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas. That come 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.200 to you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:24.720 Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, Yes, Whistlemanias. What events they were 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:30.240 right there by the sea, corn hole, big green egg tunes, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:35.200 good people, good vibes, and many drinks. Not true though 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.720 I remember him because I made the mistake of bringing 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.760 my daughter Ellis to most of them. I think at 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.840 some point I finally realized there was one where, um, 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.520 you know, jello shots and I think hard drugs were 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.040 like introduced to the mix, and I was like, okay, 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.880 no more, no more Ellis coming to these. But I 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.279 you know, I always had to drive home from from 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.880 Marina del Ray, so it wasn't it sounds like I 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.720 was getting too wild in West's memory, Mark, can you 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.720 step in and clarify the hard drugs comment about around 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.920 Westlemania That was not something that I don't know if 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.760 I'd call that a tent believe me, but Creig West 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.119 would have nothing to do with it. But there were 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.720 narrow do wells. West had a very open policy of 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.640 who wants to come and who doesn't. And I can 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.319 definitely confirm, Um, some people were bringing in some things. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.680 West may have no idea about it, and they may 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.240 have been an NFL employees. They may still be uh 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.080 like the dark side of these parties that Greg was 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.880 eyeing with his it was like it was like the 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:37.600 three in the afternoon. It's like right lately on you, Greg, 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.399 like you you you're at your third WrestleMania Westlemania. You know, 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.720 we all know what out and what they devolve into. 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.720 And you continually bring small children. And I viewed it 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.560 as a wave too, as an escape hatch to get 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.000 out of there. I mean, of course she's going to 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.600 see crazy stuff. So I don't know what. Well that 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.600 was round two and three of that. Uh see, I 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.000 would disagree. The first couple were pretty family friendly, especially 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.560 during the afternoon, and then it got wild later. That 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.840 was this whole thing that there were actually a lot 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.160 of kids at the first Westlemania or two, and you're right, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.040 once we got to three, Uh, there was no it 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.280 used to be there was like a two to five 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.959 pm or twelve to four pm pocket where it was 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:19.919 a little tamer and then you get out of there 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:24.359 with the kids. But but by three, um, these individuals 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.760 they weren't waiting around. They were they were gonna hit it, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:33.800 running right out hard drugs like people just like knotted 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.079 out in the corner. Um knowing those parties and the 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.880 characters involved always kept the children far away. But you know, 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.160 it's it's it's tough being parents sometimes sometimes the kids 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:45.800 got to come when you can't. It was either that 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.200 or not go. You know, there was like an infinite 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.200 home and I wasn't. I wasn't allowed to leave the 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.840 older one. You know, it's a tough spot. Welcome to 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:58.320 the show. We have. We are approaching the draft now 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.880 and and yes it pains me to say this, but 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.280 you know, Daniel Jeremiah is kind of the guy in 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.000 terms of the NFL Draft and the walk up to it. Uh, 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:10.639 so we did. We booked him. We booked him on 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.320 the show today and he's gonna be on today's episode. 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.640 We're gonna dive deep on the draft. Nice conversation I 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.280 look forward to having with DJ. We can maybe hopefully 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:23.160 move past our issues, uh and have a civil conversation. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.240 Uh to look forward to that also, you know, as 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.760 we are kind of in the afterglow of the Sam 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.000 Donald trade UM, and that happened in the middle of 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.160 our recording on Monday, in fact, right after it, and 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.440 we you know, did some surgery on the show, and 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.240 so it all was happening very quickly, and I was 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.640 just like the last couple of days, I've had a 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.240 chance to reflect on it a little bit because as 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.880 you guys know better than anyone that UM had a 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.960 lot invested in Donald, as did all Jets fans, And 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.760 it is kind of shocking that it's over, that the 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.760 Sam Donald is over in New York. And Joe Douglas 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.400 spoke UM to the media the day after the trade 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.480 to the Panthers, and he said as much that it 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.280 took a lot of things to fall into place for 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.760 it to end after three years, and that's just the 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.479 way it happened, whether the regime change, the timing on 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.920 his contract, where they were picking in the draft, and 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.880 it's just kind of hard to believe. And and I 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.680 still do believe Donald can be better and even good 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.640 in an environment that that where it gives him a 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.279 real shot. But I have to say it is a 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.599 relief no longer having to ponder the chicken or the 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.839 egg nature of his entire career in the NFL. That 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.920 is now something the Panthers fans have to work through 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.200 and figure out because it was very it was extremely stressful. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.120 So while I I wish him well and I think 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:52.000 he can do well, that's as a fan that was 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.000 exhausting and it's off my plate and I feel good 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.719 about that. I mean, one of the factors was, um, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.760 he didn't play well. I mean, and and then it 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:02.440 was that there is a huge chunk of the media 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.400 in general that turns around and I think has protected 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.960 Sam Donald because of the environment he was in as 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.880 much as any quarterback in the league. And so he's 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.280 is that fair unfair? I Mean, you can look at 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.320 Donald from a couple of different viewpoints. But the hardest 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.360 thing as a Jets man, I think was defending bad 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.160 quarterback play from a guy that everyone felt should be 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.800 so much better and making the team better, right, I mean, 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.640 it was tough on Dan. He had for a while 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.640 he was trying to convince us like Sam Donald was 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.039 super good looking, Like that's how much he was bump 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:33.919 bumping him up. He is. I think he is a 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:39.279 handsome He's fine, He's fine, but he's no Zack Wilson, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.760 who's like a young Efron zac Efron. I feeling even 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.040 better about the Zac Efron slash Zach Wilson. But if 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.279 you if you like your men like little boys, you know, 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:53.760 you know, I think we're just getting old. But he 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.000 looks like he's like fourteen years old, so I think 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.280 we are certainly getting old. Speaking of Sam darn in 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:01.880 the end of the road, I think this is a 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:06.200 good time to check in with Keith hanss Now. His 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:11.680 name is Keith Dan. He'll doubt about it. He's a 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:18.200 big Jets fan. Well is he gondaillpen game to day? Well? 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:23.479 Does he go? Will happen game today? The Sam Donald 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:28.400 era is over. I thought Sam Donald was the kind 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:33.040 of player that I think teammates probably appreciated. He played 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.039 through pain, and he seemed to try hard, uh and 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.000 didn't seem to put throw people under the bus or 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.119 anything of that regard. But as far as the way 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.400 he progressed in the three years he was with the Jets, 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.160 I you know, had lost faith in him as a 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.120 Jet fan. I don't think he was gonna change much. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.039 I agree he didn't have the team around him the 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.279 coaching around him. But I seeing other young players in 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.279 recent years that have been drafted on other teams come 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.280 up with not the greatest teams and have put up 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:12.320 some great numbers. Where Sam Sam Donald, with all the 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.320 publicity he was getting and a claim, he just never 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.840 seemed to improve and as a matter of fact, just 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.720 went down. As we all know, last year was ranked 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:27.960 dead last among all active quarterbacks UH in the ratings. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.920 And just hopefully the Jets cel um in the draft 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.480 will come up and the quarterback that they pick UH 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.720 will become the quarterback that they can work with. I 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.360 think it was a good move by the Jets. Good 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:47.080 luck Sam. Disclosure, my dad was always out on Sam Donald. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.520 This past year or so. There was no on the fence. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.840 I'm on the fence and I'm just trusting management to 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.240 get this right. Keith was ready to roll on the 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.040 Donald era and move on. So I hope he's right. 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.600 I hope he's right. Gonna analysis is always though Anton 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.080 Panthers don't hope he's right. Um. I think that was 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.960 the thing that would think the thing that Donald is 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:12.040 We're just such a quick football like COGNISCENTI to move 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.880 on like we didn't need to wait to move on 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.600 to from Dayne Haskins and Josh Rosen. And I think 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.440 when you really look at it, that's that's the that's 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.000 the company Donald was keeping even when he was protected 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.800 and and and things went well on a certain play. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.960 That's that. It's like, we've done this long enough to 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.320 like assume anything. If Matt Rule can fix him up 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.680 nice and fancy, he could be average there. And I 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.199 think there's a ceiling and I'm not a bit I'm 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.760 not really buying this um, but you know, maybe he 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.440 can be average. There is a bit of an irony 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.040 here by the way, as I say, I'm passing Donald 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.920 off to another fan base. Uh, and there was a 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.400 lot of stress to it. I'm kind of passing it 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.600 off the Sessler who's the president of the Matt Rule 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.960 Dynasty fan club. He's now kind of your quarterback in 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.800 a lot of ways. Yeah. And I think actually, like 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.200 he goes to a really one of the best, you know, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.960 scenarios you could have picked for him. And if Joe 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.680 Brady is as brainy as they saying creative, I think, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.000 you know, it'll help. And I think that's good for 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.079 Sam Donald. I wouldn't want him. See him go somewhere 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:13.760 where he was in a word, like a Jared Goff 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.120 type landing spot where things seem to fall apart even 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.440 further once you get there. Um. But I don't have 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.360 any great faith that Sam Donald's like a great quarterback, 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:24.760 that's all. I just want to see it. I don't 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.480 have to have that he could be a backup. I 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.280 would be very interested if they drafted someone at quarterback, 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.440 I kind of, I think, and this is something I 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.840 thought about more. I'm convinced they were in on mac 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:40.840 Jones and between striking out with Stafford mac Jones potentially 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.800 and Watson, um, then Donald kind of became this fallback land. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.800 But who knows, maybe mac Jones doesn't get taken, or 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.000 maybe they maybe tray Lance falls and they decided to 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.280 take a shot. Who knows. And speaking of the Panthers, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.080 Teddy Bridgewater, by the way, is now allowed or has 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.240 been given permission, to engage with trade partners, So I 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.320 know you would floated the he might still be in 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.160 the mix of the Panthers. The Panthers are done with 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.560 Teddy bridge want They're gonna They're gonna take a financial 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.439 uh semi Bath to move on considering the investment they 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.680 made with him, which wasn't small. It wasn't huge, but 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.840 it wasn't small either. Then they're gonna kind of hit 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.559 the reset here. And I'm with you, just like I thought. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.320 Ryan Fitzpatrick would have been a lot of fun in Denver. Uh, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.439 the Broncos job. If you were a quarterback trying to 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.080 figure out where you land in the landscape and you're 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.880 still looking for work. Uh, and there aren't many quarterbacks 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.680 in this category. Now with Teddy, you gotta get up 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.440 to Denver and take on Drew lock with that good offense, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.199 uh and really strong team all around. Um. All right, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.000 lots to get to before we get to DJ. And 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.160 we'll talk to DJ about some jet stuff at number 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.080 two because we know his connection to Joe Douglas. Let's 0:10:51.160 --> 0:11:00.360 hit the news. Could you believe a pick in? It's 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.280 funny boys. That's uh the agent of Ben Roethlisberger at 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:09.439 the two thousand four NFL draft, um Lee Steinberg. Lee 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:14.120 Steinberg and one of the more famous agents in NFL history. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.640 And uh that pops up every once in a while. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:22.160 Stephen Ruey's who does really good work. Uh. Over at four, 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.640 the Win. He's their lead writer. Uh he really he 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.800 put he floated that back up onto Twitter. Uh this week, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.360 and it's a whole behind the scenes breakdown of the 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.760 two thousand four draft, following all the top picks everywhere 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.480 there they were mike them up at the draft tables, 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.160 and it just got me thinking how disappointing it is 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.079 that as the draft since in those fifteen years twenty 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.960 years has gotten bigger, Uh, the access has gotten tighter 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.160 and tighter and more and more controlled. Wouldn't that be 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.040 great if we had this every year and then you 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.880 can look back on this stuff instead? Uh, you know, 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.360 you just get this recycled every year so on social media, 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.800 which I appreciate. But at the same time, I wish 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.800 we had this for this draft or the Baker Mayfield 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.880 Sam Donald draft, like all that stuff. Uh No, that's 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.080 not how it works anymore. I prefer less access, um, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:13.200 more sterile coverage, more robotic, less insight. That's what I'm 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.559 so we're going. We're heading in the right direction. Plus 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.360 I feel like there's more. Maybe maybe this is not true, 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:22.520 but uh, like that draft as Roethlisberger was fallen, you 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.559 really like you didn't you weren't expecting that going in necessary. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.480 You know, you really didn't have a good feel of 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.800 what was going to happen to Rivers and Roethlisberger in 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.720 that draft. You kind of knew what, you know, probably 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.440 what was happening with Eli, but like as he's falling, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.160 that was great drama in real time, just like Aaron 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.600 Rodgers when he was in the in the draft room. 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.360 And Lee Steinberg, by the way, is one of four 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:47.040 hundred agents who believes Jerry McGuire was made about him. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.400 That's like a thing and behind the scenes in agent world, 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.720 they all think it was about them. Also invites me 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.079 to his Super Bowl party every every year, by the way, 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.760 and uh, I went to one many many years back, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.360 and it's still conflicted with other things that we were doing. 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.439 But um, he's continually nice enough to send the invite 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.480 because I think he knows he and I could really 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.520 chop it up if we were to get in a 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:15.000 room together. Look at Greg's face, he's continue still eating lemons, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.960 lemons and limes. All right, let's get to the news, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.560 and we'll start with sobering bit of news here. Two 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.000 of the twenty two women who have accused Deshaun Watson 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:29.560 of sexual assault and harassment and separate lawsuits publicly publicly 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:35.120 spoke out on Tuesday detailing their experiences with the Texans quarterback. 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:39.400 During that news conference, Ashley soulis the first woman to 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.600 file a suit against Watson. Um spoke up about her 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.640 allegations against the all pro. Here's a little bit of 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.679 what she had to say. No longer practice the profession 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:56.720 that I love the most without shaking your decision, my 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.599 handshake whenever I pleased the one client, and I'm a 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:05.680 session short. If you only knew how heartbreaking that is 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.120 to me. I got into massagist therapy to heal people, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:15.640 to heal their minds and bodies, to bring peace to 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.280 their souls. The Shaun Watson has robbed me of that. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.800 He took that away from me. He tainted a profession 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:29.600 in which I take enormous pride. Lashes of Watson space 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.680 rushed to me in the moment I'm in counseling as 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:39.080 a result of Shaun Watson's actions. I hope he knows 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.280 how much pain he's affected on me emotionally and physically, 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.640 and I hope he knows how much pain he is 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:51.600 unlifted on these other survivors. The NFL released a statement 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.160 on Tuesday saying they are continuing to closely monitor all 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:59.040 developments in the matter. My Carefolo of the NFL Network 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.120 reported the League office has been a contact UH with 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:07.280 Tony Buzby, the attorney involved of this UM And finally, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.680 the Houston Police Department said last week it isn't investigating 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:17.280 Watson UM after a complaint filed with them last week. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.560 So the story continues to develop. Very tough to see 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:25.680 UM one of these UM accusers step up and speak 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.920 out UM, and it really adds um a level of 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:34.680 humanity to the situation. A tough watch it was. You know, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.960 it's been a I think an important week in the 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.560 in the Watson story, with these women coming out and 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.840 then also kind of the business community around Watson starting 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:49.400 to pull back from him. He's lost multiple endorsements, UH, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:53.520 including with Nike and in the NFL sending out another 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.960 statement on Tuesday, I think was significant just because of 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.080 the wording they used. They did compare their first statement 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.720 about Watson, which was very business like and this one, 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.720 which which was of course as well, but they you know, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.080 they did use the words how the allegations were deeply disturbing, 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:12.240 how serious they take it. And um, Stephanie Stradley is 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.320 a really good follow for Texans fans always, but she's 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.040 also a lawyer, and she sort of wrote a frequently 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.880 asked questions about the Watson case that I found really informative. 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.800 Part of it was, you know, don't don't know Pine 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.560 on it. It's very hurtful. It's it's very um difficult 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.280 thing for non lawyers or really anyone to talk about. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.520 So but I do think it's important we just follow 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.680 this story. It's it's so significant, and I do think 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.480 I think the NFL statement was was telling and that 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.840 he's going to be in a holding pattern here for 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.640 a while. I think the question, you know, just in 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.520 terms of football is just like, will he played football 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.600 in two thousand twenty one is very much an open question. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.520 I think, Yeah, I mean, I agree with everything you said, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.880 and it right now it's looking like Tyrod Taylor, you know, 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.120 gets closer and closer to being starting quarterback. But all 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.600 that is sort of just I don't know, like when 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.680 you go and watch these when you listen to these voices, 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.439 and um, it's not just names or a number of 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.320 names or how many, and you listen to what they say. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.320 I mean, I just think it brings a whole different 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.960 wave of reality to it. And uh, you know, Deshaun Watson, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.879 who knows what what will happen here? But I I 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.160 think the league and all of us and everyone didn't 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.320 know quite what to do with it a month ago. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:32.879 Um it's changing now, Yeah, it certainly is. In other news, 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:38.360 the Boston Herald reports it's doubtful that Julian Edelman will 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:44.240 be able to play a full season. In the reports, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.520 I say, source familiar with the Edelman situation. He's got 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.960 an a knee issue and it's a type of situation 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.360 and he could undergo surgery on the knee, but it's 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:58.199 only a temporary solution. He only played six games last season. 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.400 And Greg, you are a Boston's sports fan, it does 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:06.440 make me think another underdog, little critter that you were 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.000 your your fan base as a fan of Dustin Petroia 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.760 of the Red Sox, similar situation, a guy that was 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.760 beloved by fans um and had a knee issue that 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.479 just would not get better. Uh. Edelman seems to have 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.720 a similar situation here, and it puts the Patriots in 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.360 a tough spot because he is a franchise legend. Let's 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.760 face it, right, I started wondering, why is Julian Edelman 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.880 still on this roster, just knowing the Patriots? And then 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.159 and I looked and I realized he only has a 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.160 two point eight million dollar base salary this year, and 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.040 and that was the answer. Last year he was still 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.040 making kind of big money. Now they have all this 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.919 cap space. They obviously love Edelman, and so they're just 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.120 not in a hurry. I kind of buy the conspiracy 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.640 theories that I know is happening among Patriots fans though, 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.760 that a report like this is maybe getting put out 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.400 there because he wants to get released. Like I could 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.000 buy that, you know what I mean, Like this is 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.080 this is what kind of market does Julian Edelman have? 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.760 Not not much probably, but you know, he might like 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.479 to choose, you know, where he plays next Tampa, you know, 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:15.119 four oh, he wants to replace Antonio, who knows. I 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.160 kind of buy it, though, I kind of. I also 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.479 buy that he won't be healthy, so that it's not 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.560 like I think it's it's wrong. He's thirty five years 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.120 old and no one at his size. I've I've never 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.320 seen take a pounding that he has throughout his career, 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.159 from the first from his first year. I was always 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:35.280 amazing to me um that he's lasted and been as 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:39.080 durable as he has until this point. In other news, 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:43.280 ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that multiple teams have contacted the 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:47.919 Atlanta Falcons about acquiring the number four pick in draft. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.200 Schefter added that the team is open to moving out 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.840 of that spot as we know the way the draft 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.560 board is set up and almost certainly will play out 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.760 with QBS going one, two, and three. The Falcon don't 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.600 have an immediate need at quarterback with Matt Ryan, but 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.800 he uh is in his mid thirties. They could use 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.800 a guy that's the future. But also makes sense Mark 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.800 that they would potentially trade away the pick if they 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.800 got a big time godfather offered, because it looks like 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.879 that's the highest available pick. Uh. The Niners, Jets, and 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.760 Jaguars aren't going anywhere. Yeah, I mean, I guess like 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.480 why not take the calls? I mean there were other 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.600 whispers of the Falcons internally sort of felt like, well, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.600 if we're going to take a quarterback of our own, 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.600 assuming that you're gonna be at number four every year 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.000 is not the way you do business. So maybe that's 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.960 um there, They're in a valuable space themselves. The only 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.320 thing I think about if it's not quarterback, because you've 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.200 got the Bengals at number five, who obviously have their quarterback. 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.239 And if the Falcons um took a quarterback of their 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.320 own or someone else did, that number five spot becomes 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.159 the first place where Cincinnati can pick one of the 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.679 incredible skill position players, uh, the best available. And so 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.200 would someone ever want to hop scotch Cincinnati knowing they're 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.119 gonna do that, um to get a wide receiver of 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:06.959 their choice or fill in the blank. That's all I mean. 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.320 I'm assuming it's quarterback. It's just a safe way to think, UM, 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.240 and that could be a number of teams. But with 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:13.840 this kind of stuff, like am I going to be 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.520 up at three in the morning, um, pondering this and 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.840 you know, fretting over it. Now, let's just see what happens. 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:21.680 You know, we'll know more a couple of weeks from now. 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.600 It is the It is kind of the intrigue with 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.960 this draft, I think, because I guess there's a chance 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.480 San Francisco doesn't take Matt mac Jones, but it looks 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.399 like the intrigue. And you know, there was a report 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.080 I'm was surprised by this that the GM Chris Mortenson said, 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:40.080 the GM of Atlanta kind of likes Trey Lance, I believe, 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.800 you know, or is looking at quarterback, whereas Arthur Smith 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:44.960 is kind of all in a like he's down with 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.960 Matt Ryan and and so they're trying to figure that out. 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:52.360 Them taking mac Jones at three really would be wild 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:57.119 because I think in according to Chris Charlie Castlele's poll 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.800 of like executives and then our friend DJ was coming on, 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.640