1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: To be be Around the NFL podcast attended every WrestleMania and 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: recalls very little. Welcome to another edition to the Around 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas. That come 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: to you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, Yes, Whistlemanias. What events they were 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: right there by the sea, corn hole, big green egg tunes, 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: good people, good vibes, and many drinks. Not true though 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: I remember him because I made the mistake of bringing 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: my daughter Ellis to most of them. I think at 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: some point I finally realized there was one where, um, 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, jello shots and I think hard drugs were 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: like introduced to the mix, and I was like, okay, 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: no more, no more Ellis coming to these. But I 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: you know, I always had to drive home from from 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Marina del Ray, so it wasn't it sounds like I 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: was getting too wild in West's memory, Mark, can you 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: step in and clarify the hard drugs comment about around 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: Westlemania That was not something that I don't know if 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: I'd call that a tent believe me, but Creig West 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: would have nothing to do with it. But there were 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: narrow do wells. West had a very open policy of 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: who wants to come and who doesn't. And I can 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: definitely confirm, Um, some people were bringing in some things. 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: West may have no idea about it, and they may 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: have been an NFL employees. They may still be uh 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: like the dark side of these parties that Greg was 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: eyeing with his it was like it was like the 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: three in the afternoon. It's like right lately on you, Greg, 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: like you you you're at your third WrestleMania Westlemania. You know, 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: we all know what out and what they devolve into. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: And you continually bring small children. And I viewed it 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: as a wave too, as an escape hatch to get 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: out of there. I mean, of course she's going to 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: see crazy stuff. So I don't know what. Well that 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: was round two and three of that. Uh see, I 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: would disagree. The first couple were pretty family friendly, especially 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: during the afternoon, and then it got wild later. That 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: was this whole thing that there were actually a lot 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: of kids at the first Westlemania or two, and you're right, 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: once we got to three, Uh, there was no it 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: used to be there was like a two to five 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: pm or twelve to four pm pocket where it was 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: a little tamer and then you get out of there 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: with the kids. But but by three, um, these individuals 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: they weren't waiting around. They were they were gonna hit it, 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: running right out hard drugs like people just like knotted 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: out in the corner. Um knowing those parties and the 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: characters involved always kept the children far away. But you know, 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's tough being parents sometimes sometimes the kids 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: got to come when you can't. It was either that 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: or not go. You know, there was like an infinite 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: home and I wasn't. I wasn't allowed to leave the 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: older one. You know, it's a tough spot. Welcome to 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: the show. We have. We are approaching the draft now 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: and and yes it pains me to say this, but 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, Daniel Jeremiah is kind of the guy in 57 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: terms of the NFL Draft and the walk up to it. Uh, 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: so we did. We booked him. We booked him on 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: the show today and he's gonna be on today's episode. 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna dive deep on the draft. Nice conversation I 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: look forward to having with DJ. We can maybe hopefully 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: move past our issues, uh and have a civil conversation. 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Uh to look forward to that also, you know, as 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: we are kind of in the afterglow of the Sam 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: Donald trade UM, and that happened in the middle of 66 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: our recording on Monday, in fact, right after it, and 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: we you know, did some surgery on the show, and 68 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: so it all was happening very quickly, and I was 69 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: just like the last couple of days, I've had a 70 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: chance to reflect on it a little bit because as 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: you guys know better than anyone that UM had a 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: lot invested in Donald, as did all Jets fans, And 73 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: it is kind of shocking that it's over, that the 74 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: Sam Donald is over in New York. And Joe Douglas 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: spoke UM to the media the day after the trade 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: to the Panthers, and he said as much that it 77 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: took a lot of things to fall into place for 78 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: it to end after three years, and that's just the 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: way it happened, whether the regime change, the timing on 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: his contract, where they were picking in the draft, and 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: it's just kind of hard to believe. And and I 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: still do believe Donald can be better and even good 83 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: in an environment that that where it gives him a 84 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: real shot. But I have to say it is a 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: relief no longer having to ponder the chicken or the 86 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: egg nature of his entire career in the NFL. That 87 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: is now something the Panthers fans have to work through 88 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: and figure out because it was very it was extremely stressful. 89 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: So while I I wish him well and I think 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: he can do well, that's as a fan that was 91 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: exhausting and it's off my plate and I feel good 92 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: about that. I mean, one of the factors was, um, 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: he didn't play well. I mean, and and then it 94 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: was that there is a huge chunk of the media 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: in general that turns around and I think has protected 96 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Sam Donald because of the environment he was in as 97 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: much as any quarterback in the league. And so he's 98 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: is that fair unfair? I Mean, you can look at 99 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Donald from a couple of different viewpoints. But the hardest 100 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: thing as a Jets man, I think was defending bad 101 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: quarterback play from a guy that everyone felt should be 102 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: so much better and making the team better, right, I mean, 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: it was tough on Dan. He had for a while 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: he was trying to convince us like Sam Donald was 105 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: super good looking, Like that's how much he was bump 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: bumping him up. He is. I think he is a 107 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: handsome He's fine, He's fine, but he's no Zack Wilson, 108 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: who's like a young Efron zac Efron. I feeling even 109 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: better about the Zac Efron slash Zach Wilson. But if 110 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: you if you like your men like little boys, you know, 111 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think we're just getting old. But he 112 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: looks like he's like fourteen years old, so I think 113 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: we are certainly getting old. Speaking of Sam darn in 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: the end of the road, I think this is a 115 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: good time to check in with Keith hanss Now. His 116 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: name is Keith Dan. He'll doubt about it. He's a 117 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: big Jets fan. Well is he gondaillpen game to day? Well? 118 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: Does he go? Will happen game today? The Sam Donald 119 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: era is over. I thought Sam Donald was the kind 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: of player that I think teammates probably appreciated. He played 121 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: through pain, and he seemed to try hard, uh and 122 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: didn't seem to put throw people under the bus or 123 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 1: anything of that regard. But as far as the way 124 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: he progressed in the three years he was with the Jets, 125 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: I you know, had lost faith in him as a 126 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: Jet fan. I don't think he was gonna change much. 127 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: I agree he didn't have the team around him the 128 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: coaching around him. But I seeing other young players in 129 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: recent years that have been drafted on other teams come 130 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: up with not the greatest teams and have put up 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: some great numbers. Where Sam Sam Donald, with all the 132 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: publicity he was getting and a claim, he just never 133 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: seemed to improve and as a matter of fact, just 134 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: went down. As we all know, last year was ranked 135 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: dead last among all active quarterbacks UH in the ratings. 136 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: And just hopefully the Jets cel um in the draft 137 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: will come up and the quarterback that they pick UH 138 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: will become the quarterback that they can work with. I 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: think it was a good move by the Jets. Good 140 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: luck Sam. Disclosure, my dad was always out on Sam Donald. 141 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: This past year or so. There was no on the fence. 142 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm on the fence and I'm just trusting management to 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: get this right. Keith was ready to roll on the 144 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: Donald era and move on. So I hope he's right. 145 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: I hope he's right. Gonna analysis is always though Anton 146 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Panthers don't hope he's right. Um. I think that was 147 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: the thing that would think the thing that Donald is 148 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: We're just such a quick football like COGNISCENTI to move 149 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: on like we didn't need to wait to move on 150 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: to from Dayne Haskins and Josh Rosen. And I think 151 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: when you really look at it, that's that's the that's 152 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: the company Donald was keeping even when he was protected 153 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: and and and things went well on a certain play. 154 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: That's that. It's like, we've done this long enough to 155 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: like assume anything. If Matt Rule can fix him up 156 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: nice and fancy, he could be average there. And I 157 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: think there's a ceiling and I'm not a bit I'm 158 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: not really buying this um, but you know, maybe he 159 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: can be average. There is a bit of an irony 160 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: here by the way, as I say, I'm passing Donald 161 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: off to another fan base. Uh, and there was a 162 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: lot of stress to it. I'm kind of passing it 163 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: off the Sessler who's the president of the Matt Rule 164 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: Dynasty fan club. He's now kind of your quarterback in 165 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Yeah. And I think actually, like 166 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: he goes to a really one of the best, you know, 167 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: scenarios you could have picked for him. And if Joe 168 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: Brady is as brainy as they saying creative, I think, 169 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, it'll help. And I think that's good for 170 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I wouldn't want him. See him go somewhere 171 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: where he was in a word, like a Jared Goff 172 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: type landing spot where things seem to fall apart even 173 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: further once you get there. Um. But I don't have 174 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: any great faith that Sam Donald's like a great quarterback, 175 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: that's all. I just want to see it. I don't 176 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: have to have that he could be a backup. I 177 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: would be very interested if they drafted someone at quarterback, 178 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: I kind of, I think, and this is something I 179 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: thought about more. I'm convinced they were in on mac 180 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Jones and between striking out with Stafford mac Jones potentially 181 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: and Watson, um, then Donald kind of became this fallback land. 182 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: But who knows, maybe mac Jones doesn't get taken, or 183 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: maybe they maybe tray Lance falls and they decided to 184 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: take a shot. Who knows. And speaking of the Panthers, 185 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, by the way, is now allowed or has 186 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: been given permission, to engage with trade partners, So I 187 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: know you would floated the he might still be in 188 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: the mix of the Panthers. The Panthers are done with 189 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Teddy bridge want They're gonna They're gonna take a financial 190 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: uh semi Bath to move on considering the investment they 191 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: made with him, which wasn't small. It wasn't huge, but 192 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't small either. Then they're gonna kind of hit 193 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: the reset here. And I'm with you, just like I thought. 194 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick would have been a lot of fun in Denver. Uh, 195 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: the Broncos job. If you were a quarterback trying to 196 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: figure out where you land in the landscape and you're 197 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: still looking for work. Uh, and there aren't many quarterbacks 198 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: in this category. Now with Teddy, you gotta get up 199 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: to Denver and take on Drew lock with that good offense, 200 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: uh and really strong team all around. Um. All right, 201 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: lots to get to before we get to DJ. And 202 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk to DJ about some jet stuff at number 203 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: two because we know his connection to Joe Douglas. Let's 204 00:10:51,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: hit the news. Could you believe a pick in? It's 205 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: funny boys. That's uh the agent of Ben Roethlisberger at 206 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: the two thousand four NFL draft, um Lee Steinberg. Lee 207 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: Steinberg and one of the more famous agents in NFL history. 208 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: And uh that pops up every once in a while. 209 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: Stephen Ruey's who does really good work. Uh. Over at four, 210 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: the Win. He's their lead writer. Uh he really he 211 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: put he floated that back up onto Twitter. Uh this week, 212 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: and it's a whole behind the scenes breakdown of the 213 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: two thousand four draft, following all the top picks everywhere 214 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: there they were mike them up at the draft tables, 215 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: and it just got me thinking how disappointing it is 216 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: that as the draft since in those fifteen years twenty 217 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: years has gotten bigger, Uh, the access has gotten tighter 218 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: and tighter and more and more controlled. Wouldn't that be 219 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: great if we had this every year and then you 220 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: can look back on this stuff instead? Uh, you know, 221 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: you just get this recycled every year so on social media, 222 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: which I appreciate. But at the same time, I wish 223 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: we had this for this draft or the Baker Mayfield 224 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: Sam Donald draft, like all that stuff. Uh No, that's 225 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: not how it works anymore. I prefer less access, um, 226 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: more sterile coverage, more robotic, less insight. That's what I'm 227 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: so we're going. We're heading in the right direction. Plus 228 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: I feel like there's more. Maybe maybe this is not true, 229 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: but uh, like that draft as Roethlisberger was fallen, you 230 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: really like you didn't you weren't expecting that going in necessary. 231 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: You know, you really didn't have a good feel of 232 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: what was going to happen to Rivers and Roethlisberger in 233 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: that draft. You kind of knew what, you know, probably 234 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: what was happening with Eli, but like as he's falling, 235 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: that was great drama in real time, just like Aaron 236 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers when he was in the in the draft room. 237 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: And Lee Steinberg, by the way, is one of four 238 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: hundred agents who believes Jerry McGuire was made about him. 239 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: That's like a thing and behind the scenes in agent world, 240 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: they all think it was about them. Also invites me 241 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: to his Super Bowl party every every year, by the way, 242 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: and uh, I went to one many many years back, 243 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: and it's still conflicted with other things that we were doing. 244 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: But um, he's continually nice enough to send the invite 245 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: because I think he knows he and I could really 246 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: chop it up if we were to get in a 247 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: room together. Look at Greg's face, he's continue still eating lemons, 248 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: lemons and limes. All right, let's get to the news, 249 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: and we'll start with sobering bit of news here. Two 250 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: of the twenty two women who have accused Deshaun Watson 251 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: of sexual assault and harassment and separate lawsuits publicly publicly 252 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: spoke out on Tuesday detailing their experiences with the Texans quarterback. 253 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: During that news conference, Ashley soulis the first woman to 254 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: file a suit against Watson. Um spoke up about her 255 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: allegations against the all pro. Here's a little bit of 256 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: what she had to say. No longer practice the profession 257 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: that I love the most without shaking your decision, my 258 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 1: handshake whenever I pleased the one client, and I'm a 259 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: session short. If you only knew how heartbreaking that is 260 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: to me. I got into massagist therapy to heal people, 261 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: to heal their minds and bodies, to bring peace to 262 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: their souls. The Shaun Watson has robbed me of that. 263 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: He took that away from me. He tainted a profession 264 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: in which I take enormous pride. Lashes of Watson space 265 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: rushed to me in the moment I'm in counseling as 266 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: a result of Shaun Watson's actions. I hope he knows 267 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: how much pain he's affected on me emotionally and physically, 268 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: and I hope he knows how much pain he is 269 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: unlifted on these other survivors. The NFL released a statement 270 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: on Tuesday saying they are continuing to closely monitor all 271 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: developments in the matter. My Carefolo of the NFL Network 272 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: reported the League office has been a contact UH with 273 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Tony Buzby, the attorney involved of this UM And finally, 274 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: the Houston Police Department said last week it isn't investigating 275 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: Watson UM after a complaint filed with them last week. 276 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: So the story continues to develop. Very tough to see 277 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: UM one of these UM accusers step up and speak 278 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: out UM, and it really adds um a level of 279 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: humanity to the situation. A tough watch it was. You know, 280 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: it's been a I think an important week in the 281 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: in the Watson story, with these women coming out and 282 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: then also kind of the business community around Watson starting 283 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: to pull back from him. He's lost multiple endorsements, UH, 284 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: including with Nike and in the NFL sending out another 285 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: statement on Tuesday, I think was significant just because of 286 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: the wording they used. They did compare their first statement 287 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: about Watson, which was very business like and this one, 288 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: which which was of course as well, but they you know, 289 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: they did use the words how the allegations were deeply disturbing, 290 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: how serious they take it. And um, Stephanie Stradley is 291 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: a really good follow for Texans fans always, but she's 292 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: also a lawyer, and she sort of wrote a frequently 293 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: asked questions about the Watson case that I found really informative. 294 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: Part of it was, you know, don't don't know Pine 295 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: on it. It's very hurtful. It's it's very um difficult 296 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: thing for non lawyers or really anyone to talk about. 297 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: So but I do think it's important we just follow 298 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: this story. It's it's so significant, and I do think 299 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: I think the NFL statement was was telling and that 300 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: he's going to be in a holding pattern here for 301 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: a while. I think the question, you know, just in 302 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: terms of football is just like, will he played football 303 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty one is very much an open question. 304 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I mean, I agree with everything you said, 305 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: and it right now it's looking like Tyrod Taylor, you know, 306 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: gets closer and closer to being starting quarterback. But all 307 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: that is sort of just I don't know, like when 308 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: you go and watch these when you listen to these voices, 309 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: and um, it's not just names or a number of 310 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: names or how many, and you listen to what they say. 311 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it brings a whole different 312 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: wave of reality to it. And uh, you know, Deshaun Watson, 313 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: who knows what what will happen here? But I I 314 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: think the league and all of us and everyone didn't 315 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: know quite what to do with it a month ago. 316 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: Um it's changing now, Yeah, it certainly is. In other news, 317 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: the Boston Herald reports it's doubtful that Julian Edelman will 318 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: be able to play a full season. In the reports, 319 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: I say, source familiar with the Edelman situation. He's got 320 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: an a knee issue and it's a type of situation 321 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: and he could undergo surgery on the knee, but it's 322 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: only a temporary solution. He only played six games last season. 323 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: And Greg, you are a Boston's sports fan, it does 324 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: make me think another underdog, little critter that you were 325 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: your your fan base as a fan of Dustin Petroia 326 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: of the Red Sox, similar situation, a guy that was 327 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: beloved by fans um and had a knee issue that 328 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: just would not get better. Uh. Edelman seems to have 329 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: a similar situation here, and it puts the Patriots in 330 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: a tough spot because he is a franchise legend. Let's 331 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: face it, right, I started wondering, why is Julian Edelman 332 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: still on this roster, just knowing the Patriots? And then 333 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: and I looked and I realized he only has a 334 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: two point eight million dollar base salary this year, and 335 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: and that was the answer. Last year he was still 336 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: making kind of big money. Now they have all this 337 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: cap space. They obviously love Edelman, and so they're just 338 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: not in a hurry. I kind of buy the conspiracy 339 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: theories that I know is happening among Patriots fans though, 340 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: that a report like this is maybe getting put out 341 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: there because he wants to get released. Like I could 342 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: buy that, you know what I mean, Like this is 343 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: this is what kind of market does Julian Edelman have? 344 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: Not not much probably, but you know, he might like 345 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: to choose, you know, where he plays next Tampa, you know, 346 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: four oh, he wants to replace Antonio, who knows. I 347 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: kind of buy it, though, I kind of. I also 348 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: buy that he won't be healthy, so that it's not 349 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: like I think it's it's wrong. He's thirty five years 350 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: old and no one at his size. I've I've never 351 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: seen take a pounding that he has throughout his career, 352 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: from the first from his first year. I was always 353 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: amazing to me um that he's lasted and been as 354 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: durable as he has until this point. In other news, 355 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that multiple teams have contacted the 356 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons about acquiring the number four pick in draft. 357 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: Schefter added that the team is open to moving out 358 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: of that spot as we know the way the draft 359 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: board is set up and almost certainly will play out 360 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: with QBS going one, two, and three. The Falcon don't 361 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: have an immediate need at quarterback with Matt Ryan, but 362 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: he uh is in his mid thirties. They could use 363 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: a guy that's the future. But also makes sense Mark 364 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: that they would potentially trade away the pick if they 365 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: got a big time godfather offered, because it looks like 366 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: that's the highest available pick. Uh. The Niners, Jets, and 367 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars aren't going anywhere. Yeah, I mean, I guess like 368 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: why not take the calls? I mean there were other 369 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: whispers of the Falcons internally sort of felt like, well, 370 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: if we're going to take a quarterback of our own, 371 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: assuming that you're gonna be at number four every year 372 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: is not the way you do business. So maybe that's 373 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: um there, They're in a valuable space themselves. The only 374 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: thing I think about if it's not quarterback, because you've 375 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: got the Bengals at number five, who obviously have their quarterback. 376 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: And if the Falcons um took a quarterback of their 377 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: own or someone else did, that number five spot becomes 378 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: the first place where Cincinnati can pick one of the 379 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: incredible skill position players, uh, the best available. And so 380 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: would someone ever want to hop scotch Cincinnati knowing they're 381 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: gonna do that, um to get a wide receiver of 382 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: their choice or fill in the blank. That's all I mean. 383 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's quarterback. It's just a safe way to think, UM, 384 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: and that could be a number of teams. But with 385 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, like am I going to be 386 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: up at three in the morning, um, pondering this and 387 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, fretting over it. Now, let's just see what happens. 388 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, we'll know more a couple of weeks from now. 389 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: It is the It is kind of the intrigue with 390 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: this draft, I think, because I guess there's a chance 391 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: San Francisco doesn't take Matt mac Jones, but it looks 392 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: like the intrigue. And you know, there was a report 393 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm was surprised by this that the GM Chris Mortenson said, 394 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: the GM of Atlanta kind of likes Trey Lance, I believe, 395 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, or is looking at quarterback, whereas Arthur Smith 396 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: is kind of all in a like he's down with 397 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and and so they're trying to figure that out. 398 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: Them taking mac Jones at three really would be wild 399 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: because I think in according to Chris Charlie Castlele's poll 400 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: of like executives and then our friend DJ was coming on, 401 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: Trey Lance and Fields are ranked way ahead of those guys. 402 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: In most people's eyes. DJ has those two in the 403 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: top eight of all of his players. So if you're 404 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: a team like the Lions or the Panthers or the Patriots, 405 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: certainly you've got to be looking at this like where 406 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: do I need to move up to get Fields or Lance? 407 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: If if I like those guys. Very intriguing. In other news, 408 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: the Rams uh there general manager less Need said he 409 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: believes Matthew Stafford, their new quarterback, is going to be 410 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: there anywhere between five and eight years. Seems nice. Thirty 411 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: three years old, Stafford is I mean if he if 412 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: he if he went on the long side of U 413 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: Sneed's uh projection, he's the quarterback in his forties, which 414 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: this assumption that all quarterbacks now could play in their 415 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: forties just seems kind of silly to me. Also silly 416 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: the idea of what the team. What's the famous John 417 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: Lennon quote, life is what happens to you while you're 418 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: busy making other plans. The assumption here that Matthew Stafford 419 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: will stay healthy enough and his body will cooperate. That 420 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: what it comes down to. I think he'll he has 421 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: the skill set to thrive, and I think he will 422 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: in this Sean McVeigh system. But any thoughts that he's 423 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: a long term solution, you're not gonna know until that 424 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: body where he's had back issues, he just had thumb surgery. Um, 425 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: is that going to hold up in the long term. 426 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: It's a it's a dicey proposition and and Snead really 427 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: bet his job on it here. I think by bringing 428 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: in Stafford, I mean I would just say this though, 429 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: in terms of like how you really want to create 430 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: like a stunning headline. What if they traded multiple picks 431 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: in the third round pick and their starting quarterback for 432 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and less Snee said, we think he'll start 433 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: here for two years like people would go nuts. So 434 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: it's like over projecting and saying he's got he's our guy, 435 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: um deep into the future. We've made the right choice. 436 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: Like you know, of course he's gonna tilt towards the longevity. 437 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: I mean it is a two year deal. He's he 438 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: they inherited two years and forty three million on the contract, right, 439 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: But you know that feels like what the NFL is now. 440 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: Everything is just two year projection and then you reevaluate. 441 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: I'm just you wouldn't pitch it that way to the 442 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: to to a like a a frisky reporter. I mean, 443 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: they re something else with it or or and I'm 444 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 1: sure that's what they're hoping for, or to you know, 445 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: season ticket holders. They're trying to sell some tickets. Uh, 446 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: you know they want to think of Stafford as their 447 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: long term going. I'm sure that's what they want. I 448 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: mean they also said Jared Goff was there forever quarterback 449 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: like a lot that they that that McVeigh and Goff 450 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: were tied a hip. The only thing with like thinking 451 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: guys can play great into like their late forties. Fitzpatrick 452 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: is an exception, but the other guys who have done 453 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: all that are all time greats. It's like, yeah, Tom 454 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: Brady and Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are aging well, 455 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: but they were incredible. They were like coming off of 456 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: an incredible spot. Like you can't expect the suping that 457 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: all these guys. I mean, do you could even make 458 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: the case that if you were building a roster of 459 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: all time goods, Matthew Staffords might be that quarterback? Like 460 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: so I think he is. He's proven over his the 461 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: first eleven twelve years of his career that he's, you know, 462 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: rock solid, franchise started quarterback. But is he one of 463 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: the great players in NFL history? Well not yet anyway. UM. 464 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: In other news, Peter King's Monday Night UH Monday Morning 465 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: Quarterback column, he wrote about, uh some of the uh 466 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: new wrinkles to the schedule after the c B A 467 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: was signed, sealed and delivered and the new TV Dale 468 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: new TV deals came together. Uh this year. That second 469 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: game in Week one on Monday Night is history, the 470 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: one that famously had for some reason, throwing Chris Berman 471 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: a bone and they were. They were having him in 472 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: the booth here and a big bowel bottom and not 473 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: knowing who anybody was. Um that second game is off 474 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: the books now. But for ESPN, who always hosted those games, 475 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: it's a win because what they did was there's a 476 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: Saturday Week eighteen double header that ESPN gets, and I 477 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: believe those are flexible games, which means they will have 478 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: playoff ramifications. And that feels like a big w because 479 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: it's good for us. You're in California. But that second 480 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: game on Monday night in week one was starting at 481 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: like ten fifteen at night for people on the East 482 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: coast exactly. I always I liked them, but I A 483 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: you also were if it wasn't a good game, you 484 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: would you would feel the effects, you would feel the 485 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: effects of the previous day and a half. And you're like, 486 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, I've been waiting all off season for one game, 487 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: and now it's like I'm just you know, it's too 488 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: it's almost too much. That Saturday night though, mid January. 489 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: That sounds fun. That sounds pretty good that that that 490 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: end of the season, Slate's gonna be challenging. Um an interest, 491 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: like it's just gonna be a lot of Saturdays. That's 492 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: where NFL Network is gonna get in the mix too. 493 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, some of the international games, but also the 494 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: Saturday games, but this little Saturday night doubleheader. Get ready, Mark, 495 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: say goodbye to your family. I mean, I've been doing 496 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: this for long enough where I presume that there's a 497 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 1: massive chunk of every year that is UM oriented towards 498 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: one thing football and football is family. They tell me. 499 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: I could argue that it's not always that um, but 500 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: it's a it's a massive upgrade because a lot of times, 501 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: if you look at what the second Monday night game 502 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: has been, I think they know to your point that 503 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: half the country is, you know, getting to bed at 504 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: that point, that they've not been marquee scenarios, but that's 505 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: Saturday scenario will be used to make it into two 506 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: contests that no one can steer their eyes away from. Finally, 507 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: in the news, this from the New York Post, Daniel 508 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: Jones this week, along with several Giants offensive players, wide receivers, 509 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: tight ends, and even a few linemen, travel to Phoenix 510 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: for a few days of throwing sessions. The Monday to 511 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: Friday workouts organized entirely by Daniel Jones will be the 512 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: first unofficial work on the field in advance. Yeah, baby, 513 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: that's also our first trope alert offseason trop let trot 514 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: the trope alert, and this one is a well worn 515 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: uh the veteran quarterback on maybe shaky ground organizing a 516 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: throwing sessh uh and making sure the media knows about 517 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: it to show that he's a leader on the rise 518 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: and everything is fine. I mean, isn't that technically Giants West? 519 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: If they were gonna name Jets camps that happened west 520 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: of the Missisipi Mississippi Jets West for all those they 521 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: trademarked that the Giants couldn't touch it. It was two. 522 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: It was too perfect. That's not how Jets Giants things work. 523 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: But I like it when there it's like a quarterback competition. 524 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: This isn't the case in New York, but when there's 525 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the starting jobs up for gaps of one of them 526 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: does the the off season thing like that's a power move, 527 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: and then the other quarters because it decides, like when 528 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: it was Santez Tebow. Tebow could just show up, but 529 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: you know when it when it's two guys are someone equal, 530 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: then the backup the other quarterback has to be like, shoot, 531 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: do I have to show up at this guy's quarterback thing? 532 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: I guess I do? Or else, like the guys do 533 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: you have to organize my own? And if I realize 534 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: my own will like, well, Darius Layton come to mine. 535 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: And then you've got to pay for it. The quarterback 536 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: pays for a lot of this stuff. So that's that's 537 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: why that's the sneaky hidden value of signing Mike Glennon 538 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: as your backup. You know he's not throwing any camp. 539 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: It's like Mike will see you in July or whatever. 540 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: And just if you if you're new to the podcast 541 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: or you know, just starting to understand how the off 542 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: season works when we get to because it's gonna we're 543 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a return of O t A s. It 544 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: looks like in traditional UH mini camps and rookie camps 545 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: and then of course training camp in July, uh and August. 546 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: Some training camp tropes to look out for Draft bust 547 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: X looks like he's ready to turn the corner. New 548 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: quarterback wide receiver tandem display, undeniable chemistry player X. I'm 549 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 1: better now than I was before devastating lower body injury. 550 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: Second year player X, the game has slowed down for me, 551 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: soft soft spoken star ready to take on recently vacated 552 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: leadership roles. That's just a tease of what's to come 553 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: and what to keep an eye out on. And my 554 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: job to you, the listener, is to make sure all 555 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: of it is documented ahead of season. You can count 556 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: on me. That's what's happening in the news. Alright, Time 557 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: for our special guest. And you know, listen, here's the thing. 558 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: It's not just that he knows it's his time of year. 559 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: He knows that we know it's his time of year. 560 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: And that's what hurts the most. Daniel Jeremiah. We really 561 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: we're happy to have you. Well, Dan, I'll tell you what. 562 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: It's great to be with you. Uh, Cessler, it's great 563 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: to see if Pal. I do appreciate Greg waking up 564 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: three minutes before this segment started. Greg, it's great to 565 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: see you as well. Pal. I've been here the whole time. 566 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: I've been you know, way in sharpening my knives. I've 567 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: been ready for this for a year. This is this 568 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: is Greg. This is either like this Hollywood style, you know, 569 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: gesle neck influenced hairstyle you're going with or it's I 570 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: just woke up five minutes ago and I think I'm 571 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: leaning towards the ladder. I showered. I wanted to be 572 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: here for your like last appearance on NFL Network before 573 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: you you know, you follow Mike Mayock out the door. 574 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: A lot of speculation, a lot of speculation about DJ 575 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: and and that goes back when Joe Douglas got hired 576 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: as jam as of the Jets. It was all over 577 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: the place and DJ had to come out and say no, no, 578 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: no, no no, no no. I love my job at NFL Network. 579 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: I love working for the Chargers. But that you know, 580 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: on that subject on Joe Douglas, and let's get into 581 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: it here, D j M. Because you do have a 582 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: relationship with Joe Douglas. You worked in football circles with him, 583 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: your buddies, and he just made a huge move in 584 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: this draft where maybe he didn't make a huge move, 585 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of ramifications there. Trade Sam Donald, 586 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: You're at number two, and I have I have to 587 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: ask this because you don't make this trade, right, DJ, 588 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: of Sam Donald and then most likely to stay at 589 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: number two and less you're pretty sure Zach Wilson or 590 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback you're gonna take probably Zack Wilson is a 591 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: can't miss prospect because on the other side of it, DJ, 592 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: this is like a once in ten, once or twenty 593 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: years leverage situation in the draft in terms of where 594 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: he was. How hard do you think this decision was 595 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: to stay it too, if that is indeed what ends 596 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: up happening. Well, I don't necessarily think it was hard, 597 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: because when you have conviction on a player at that position, 598 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: there's really you're not gonna be swayed. I mean to me, 599 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: it would have taken a monumental hall of picks, uh, 600 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: much more than even we saw take place with that 601 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: San Francisco Miami trade to consider getting out of number 602 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: two if you believe in the quarterback, because not only 603 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: do you feel like you've got somebody with tremendous talent 604 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: coming in, you restart, you reset the clock, and financially 605 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: it's such a boon. And it would be one thing 606 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: if the Jets, you know, just had their seven picks 607 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: in this draft and seven picks in next year's draft, 608 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: and you say, man, look at all the holes on 609 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: this roster, how are we ever going to fill all 610 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: of them? But they're in a situation due to to 611 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: the trades. And you look at Jamal Adams and Leonard Williams, 612 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: some of the trades they've made. The hall of picks, 613 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: I think it's twenty one picks over the next two years, 614 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: so they can get the quarterback at two. Uh. Now 615 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: you move on from Sam Donald and you've got a 616 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: ton of picks where you can fill in around him. 617 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: And I always like to, you know, point out when 618 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about Sam like he did not get a 619 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: fair shake there. I'm a Sam Donald believer. I loved 620 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: him coming into the draft. You guys know that, um 621 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: and I still think he's got a chance to be successful. 622 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: But he didn't have the infrastructure in place to succeed 623 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: with the Jets. And I think the focus for the 624 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: Jets is to make sure that that is in place 625 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: for the next quarterback who who you know, I really 626 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: believe it's gonna be Zack Wilson. All right, So DJ, 627 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: let's just say that you were a GM, or let's 628 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: say you were inside the body of John Lynch the GM, 629 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: and I would love that. I would I would swap. 630 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: I used to work out with John Lynch when I 631 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: was in college, when he was in the NFL, John 632 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: Lynch was there, Tony Boselli was there, and I can 633 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: tell you that was the peak of my athletic existence. 634 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: Um and uh, I would say, John Lynch right now, 635 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: after you know, going into the Hall of Fame and 636 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: been retired for several years, it's still light years ahead 637 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: of where I was at my peak. So if you 638 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: want to swap me out with John, I'm happy to 639 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: do that. It's still a little weird, though. Now that's 640 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: DJ's way of always been working in that he was 641 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: a QB one of a D one program. He gets 642 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: it into every segment he does, got even get it. 643 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: But if I'm almatching the lower third, really be impressed. 644 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, you want to be inside John Lynch's body, Like, 645 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, that just seems weird. Be happy with 646 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: who you are. I think in this case, let's say 647 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: you control his brain, all right, and we we've got 648 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence going to Jacksonville, Zack Wilson with his nice 649 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: little hair going to the Jets, and then we've got 650 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: number three. What do you do do? What? Who do 651 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: you pick as the forty Niners quarterback? Who is the 652 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: third best quarterback in this draft. To me, I think 653 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: it's a it's a close call um for me personally, 654 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: between Trey Lance from North Dakota State and Justin Fields 655 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: from Ohio State. Um, those to me are the next 656 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in line. And I would have Mac Jones five. 657 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: Now in terms of who I would take, well, I 658 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: have I have Trey Lance one spot ahead of Justin 659 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: But they're gonna be, you know, afforded the luxury I 660 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: don't have, which is to spend a ton of time 661 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: with these two kids, uh, to see you know, who 662 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: they're most comfortable with. I I don't know that there's 663 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: a wrong decision between those two because the upside is 664 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: so tremendous. And if I'm if I'm Kyle Shanahan and 665 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: John Lynch, I want to take my offense from where 666 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: it is and take it to New heights. And in 667 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: order to do that, I've got to get somebody that 668 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: can expand what we do. To me, that would be 669 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: one of the one of the two options between those 670 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: two guys. But everything we hear is everything points towards 671 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. And that's how I know do mock drafts 672 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: and and uh, and that's what you hear around the 673 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: league is the expectation is that will be Mac Jones 674 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: with the third pick, which I'll throw it back to 675 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: you guys because, uh, Dan, I know you've heard this 676 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: a million times. How many times you heard the cliche 677 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: if it's you know, it's about the Jimmy's and Joe's 678 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: not the exs and ohs, Well, this is a decision. 679 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: If they take Mac Jones, that is the exact opposite. 680 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: This is all about their offense and their system versus 681 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: the talent of the player you're gonna select. To say 682 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: you shouldn't do though, are just supposed to take the 683 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: best out player and all that. Yeah, yeah, I I 684 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: That's what I would do, and that's how I was 685 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: brought up with with the Ravens way of doing business. 686 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: But you look at a team like the you know, 687 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: Greg's team, You look at what happened in New England. 688 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: They just draft players that fit them. And if they 689 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: take a guy in the second round that the rest 690 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: of the league thinks is a sixth round pick, they 691 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: don't care because they feel like he fits what we 692 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: do and he's gonna be able to do what we 693 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: ask him to do. So um, it's a little bit 694 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: of that thought process. I don't agree with that. It 695 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: to me, I just want to get the most talented people, 696 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: and we're gonna work around what they do and not 697 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: be quite as married to everything that I've traditionally done. Um. 698 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: But that's that's how they operate. It's partly why I 699 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: don't totally want to believe it. Like I don't want 700 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: to kill the forty niners for this pick or think 701 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: about it until I see it. We still have another 702 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: Justin Fields pro day. Um, Trey Lance seems like you 703 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: doing with Trey Lance too right. I think they'll he 704 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: would kind of be perfect in that system, especially for 705 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: a for a situation where maybe you play Jimmy garoppolo 706 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: for a year or see how that goes, and you 707 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: have trade. Let you have four quarterbacks in your top eight, 708 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and Mac Jones is nowhere near that? Does it? 709 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: Does that mean in at least the years you're doing this, 710 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: this has to be the best quarterback class you've ever seen. 711 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: I can't imagine you've ever had four quarterbacks in your 712 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: top eight. It's not like you think Trey Lance and 713 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: Justin Fields are interesting. You think you're that you think 714 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: there are two of the top eight players in this draft. Yeah, 715 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: I think they're really talented. I think all four of 716 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: these guys at the top are are tremendously talented. Now 717 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a different year, Greg and 718 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: that you look at some of the other positions, like 719 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: we don't have you know, the edge rushers that you 720 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: would see, you know, typically eat up spots in the 721 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: top ten. We don't have that this year. We've got 722 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: some good corners and some good tackles, but in my 723 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: opinion that the tackle group is not what it was 724 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: last year with that group. So um, those are the 725 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: positions that usually you know, secure spots in the top 726 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: ten and without those this year, to me, you look 727 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: at you see a bunch of quarterbacks, you see a 728 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: bunch of wide receivers. That's just kind of what this 729 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: draft has given us. But yeah, I think these four 730 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and and pretty much any draft year would would 731 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: be highly coveted because the again, the ceiling is so high, 732 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: because these guys are so athletic and uh and just 733 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: big time arm talents. So um, yeah, that to me, 734 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: mac is is behind those guys. But if you know, 735 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: four and irons don't care what I think. They don't 736 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: care what the other thirty one teams things. They're just 737 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: trying to find the guy that best fits them, and 738 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 1: everything you hear seems to be pointing towards mac So 739 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: moving off the quarterbacks for a moment here, So you 740 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: have right now Kyle Pitts the Florida tight end uh 741 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: going at number five, and it seems like the way 742 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: you wrote it up on NFL dot Com, if the 743 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: Bengals don't take them at five, the Dolphins makes a 744 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: lot of sense at six. And then he do that 745 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: research and and I'll just name them right now. These 746 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: are the first round tight ends in the last ten 747 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: eleven years. T J. Hockinson, Noah Fan, Hayden Hurst, O. J. Howard, At, 748 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, David and Joku, Eric Ebron, Tyler Eifert, Jermaine Gresham, 749 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: who has taken twenty one picks ahead of Grunk in 750 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: two thousand ten. The one thing they all have in 751 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: common is none of those guys are stars. And I 752 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 1: guess my question to you DJ, with pits a a 753 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: a hot draft prospect and a unicorn and all that 754 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: is like, how come there's no can't miss tight ends 755 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: or there hasn't been in a long time. Well, I 756 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: would answer that a couple of ways. First of all, 757 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 1: if you're uncomfortable looking at that list of tight ends, 758 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: fine just put w R next to his name and 759 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: draft Kyle Pitch is a wide receiver, you play m 760 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: at wide receiver, you'd be happy with him at wide receiver. 761 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: Is a top fifteen type player. Uh. Second point I 762 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: would make is I have a higher grade on him 763 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: than all those those tight ends that you mentioned so 764 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: to me, and it's not even close with with where 765 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: he is in terms of the talent that he has. 766 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: And I would the third point that I would make 767 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: in Sessler, I know you can probably back me up 768 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: on this um and I know life has taken a 769 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: terrible turn for this person. But if you go back 770 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: and somebody who wasn't doing popping leaves in a in 771 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: a strip mall parking lot as a tight end, we 772 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't be talking about that type of impact of taking 773 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,439 Speaker 1: a tight end in the top ten. Because this kid 774 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: is to me, he's he's a better receiver and route 775 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: runner uh than Kellen Winslow. Kell Winslow maybe a little 776 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: bit better blocker, but he was to me he would 777 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: have had a phenomenal career until everything went way off course. 778 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you remember that one season that Winslow had, 779 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: and that's an interesting comparison. I have a little bit 780 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: of an off the radar question for you. I just 781 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: was thinking about this. You're in touch with everyone. Have 782 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: you had like a one on one phone conversation with 783 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick or is he is that remained an untouchable 784 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: territory for you? No? Well, first of all, if I had, 785 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I would not be allowed to 786 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: divulge that I had, But honestly, I haven't. So, Uh, 787 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: the only talks I've ever had with Coach Belichick is 788 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: when he's coming to the booth at the Combine, usually 789 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: to give Rich a check for St. Jude, and uh, 790 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: we visited a little bit, but that's uh, that that's 791 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: about it. So I've been fortunate to make a lot 792 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: of you know, new friends and new contacts since they 793 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,479 Speaker 1: went over the media side. But Coach Belichick is still 794 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: he's still outside of arms reached for me here, So 795 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm bummed about that one. But you're kind of wearing 796 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: like a Belichick inspired outfit here, just like a T 797 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: shirt and like an open and like, are you going 798 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: to work out later or what's going on here? Uh? 799 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: You know, Ricky Schroeder, I don't know. I mean, do 800 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: I go getta workout in later? Maybe? Um, but I 801 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: didn't cut the sleeves off. If I would have cut 802 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: the sleeves off, maybe I could go with that. But um, 803 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, Look, Gregg does the stylus, by the way, 804 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: just to clear that up, he doesn't. He didn't well, 805 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: he didn't even give you. Remind Gregg. I want to 806 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: remind Gregg of one thing, Dan. The structure has a 807 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: thirty day return policy, so if the jacket doesn't feel great, 808 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: you still have a few more days where you can 809 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: return it. I was gonna say classic, classic DJ wholesome Zinger. 810 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: They're using a reference from like an eighties sitcom that 811 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: that no one except DJ and his his twenty seven children. 812 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: He had a train that went around the family room. 813 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: A great show, A great show. Greg wasn't even playing that. 814 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. I call I called DJ the 815 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: wholesome Assassin for takedowns just like that. And he didn't 816 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: even let you go with Ricky Schroeder, Greggy or Rick 817 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: Schroder with his NYPD Blue Days, he ding down the 818 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: Silver Spoons, Ricky Schroeder in the biggest some of Alfonso 819 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: Rivero's greatest work. By the way, this is not just 820 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: like an America's Funniest Home Videos and Jason Bateman on 821 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: that show where it started. Jason Bateman, correct, All right, 822 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: let's move back into the two thousand twenties. What out mark? 823 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: You got something else for DJ I would look at 824 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: when you look at guys like a J. C. Horne 825 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: and as Sante Samuel Jr. Are we do these players 826 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: get too much attention because their legacies, their sons of 827 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: great players, or are they actually like I am annoyed, 828 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: for instance, when the Browns passed up on Clay Matthews 829 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: and when they passed up on like J. J. Watts's brother. 830 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: It's like, shouldn't something about their DNA tell us they're 831 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: just gonna be ready for action? And on top of it, 832 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: if you were the son of a pro player, you 833 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: know the life, like why does some of these teams 834 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: pass up on what I think would be more home 835 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: run prospects? Or am I just out and left field 836 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: with that concept? Well? Not not to go back to 837 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: the eighties, before dj answers. But remember jose Consaco. There 838 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: was Ozzi Conseco too. I know it doesn't always work out. 839 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: I would go father's son, more of the Navy brother brother. 840 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: So it's I'm glad you guys brought that up because 841 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: that Ozzi Consaco's name has come up in the draft 842 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 1: room where we were talking about a player who had 843 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: who had a successful brother father. Can't remember exactly what 844 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: it was, and this, and somebody in the draft room 845 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: was making the case. You know, it's the genes. You know, 846 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: these guy's got the jeans da da. And one of 847 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: the other scouts in the room said, look, this guy 848 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: is a little more Azzi Consaco than he is Jose 849 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: Can And then another guy in the room piped up 850 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: and said, yeah, this is more Randy Quaid than Dennis Quaid. 851 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: Let's not get carried away here. I'm gon take no offense. 852 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: Be cousin. Eddie was a great role, but I just 853 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: think the acting Chops is a little different. Yeah that's there, 854 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: that's fair. But you're but you're a fan of these corners. 855 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: You're a fan of these corps. I like them. Got 856 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: it right to me. Yeah, I look if if it's close. 857 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: That can be something that's a tiebreaker between a couple players, 858 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: because I know this guy's he's just been taught how 859 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: to be a professional. You know, since he was a kid. 860 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: He's been around it. I think it's not specific just 861 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: a football you know, you see it in baseball with 862 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: a lot of the great players who are sons. I 863 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: think you have Vladimir Carrero Jr. You've got tattoos Um, 864 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: You've got Bishett, You've got b g O. Like, there's 865 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: all these sons of players now that are in the 866 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: major leagues, and I think you see the same thing 867 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um So, these guys, to me, they've 868 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: been around it, that there'll be a pro um. The 869 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: other thing I would point out is I think it's 870 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: fascinating some of the advice I've always tried to give 871 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: young players, like high school players going to college is 872 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: every year in the draft, we have a wide receiver list. 873 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: It's it's a million names long, and you're trying to 874 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: cut off the list at some point time, like there's 875 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: just a million of them, and the DV list, the 876 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: corner list. We're trying to create guys to push them up. Um. 877 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: So if you've got the option. As a high school athlete, 878 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: you're a five star athlete, you've got a choice. Go 879 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: play defense. Man, it's a it's an easier route to 880 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: travel if you're a big, tall athletic kid. Get out 881 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: of that long line in the wide receiver group and 882 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: go over to to the corner group. And all these 883 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: sons of athletes. You notice they're not dumb. They're not 884 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: They're not asking their kids to play wide receiver. Go 885 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: play corner um. And we're seeing him come out and droves. Mmm. 886 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 1: That's why I'm teaching my son Walker at the beach. 887 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: He likes playing cornerback too. I don't know if he's 888 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: gonna be tall, but he could be feisty, he could 889 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: be mean. Now that's like I'm getting like a nickel 890 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: Robie Coleman vibe here. Greg. I think that's what we're 891 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: working with. And that's great, man, let's do it. I 892 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: would take that, you know, nice NFL career. Help his 893 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: dad retire, that would be terrific. There's like a lot 894 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: of small cornerbacks wide receivers rather in this class too. 895 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm sort of struck by how maybe the same physical 896 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: requirements aren't the same at the position. You know, we 897 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: know DeVante Smith, but even Jamar Chase is a guy 898 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: who has talked about as sort of a can't miss 899 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: I don't know about generational, but kind of the guy 900 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: in this class. And yet he's not a guy necessarily 901 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 1: that you think is big and tall. He's definitely strong 902 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: or is definitely gonna run like a fast Bardy And really, 903 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: this entire class, it seems like a lot like how 904 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: is that position and especially the top how do you 905 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 1: separate these guys when maybe they're not as physically dominant 906 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: as some top receivers in the past. Yeah, it's a 907 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: good point, I mean, and normally when you have guys 908 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: go in the top ten, you're talking about some heightweight, speed, 909 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: guys you know, big time check all those boxes and 910 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: prototype size. When you think of DeAndre Johnson's, the Larry FitzGeralds, 911 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: that Calvin Johnson's, uh, those type of players. And uh, 912 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: this year we have a bunch of really good receivers, 913 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: but we don't have many of the big guys. I 914 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: mean even last year you go back, you know, outside 915 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: the first round, you saw Michael Pittman, Uh, we saw Claypool, 916 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: you had Tee Higgins. Like we had a MEM's there 917 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: was a bunch of those bigger, power forward type receivers. 918 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: Um this year, it's more about speed and quickness, and 919 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase is unique to me because even though he's 920 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: a six footer pound guy, he plays big like he 921 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: goes up and gets the football um and plays above 922 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: the rim, and then you get the route running and 923 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: the run after catch stuff that comes along with it. 924 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: So while that's not traditionally what we see go in 925 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: the top ten, to me, he's he's a little bit 926 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: of an outlier in that regard and he's gonna come 927 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: off the board real quick. And then after him you 928 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: get kind of the debate between the Alabama guys with 929 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: Wattle and Smith. You know Smith, much is made about 930 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: the frame um, But to me, when you look at 931 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: the way the games played right now at the NFL level, 932 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: with the lack of you know, contact in the middle 933 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: of the field, it's not as big of an issue. 934 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: And people say, oh, how's he gonna get off pressed 935 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: he's not a big strong guy. Well, you can't really 936 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: get your hands on him either, because he's so quick. 937 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: He's a real sliddery type athlete. So he just there's 938 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: not a lot of surface area to press. Um, so 939 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. And then Waddle is somebody 940 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: that's gonna get over the top, and somebody that's he's 941 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: the fastest guy in college football. So when you look 942 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: at all the GPS numbers that the teams have in 943 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: terms of wide receivers, I should say his GPS numbers 944 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: were at the top of the list. I have a little, tiny, 945 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: one word a question that will require a one word answer, 946 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: like what you you grind through this tape at an 947 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: impressive degree? Um? Is there one position group? Because I 948 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: know when I've watched all twenty two sometimes I'm just 949 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: being real here. It's like I gotta turn some music 950 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: on because it will send me right into dreamland. If 951 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: you're if you allowed to go on for too long? 952 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: Is there our position group that puts you to sleep 953 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: more than any other? But you're just saying this is 954 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: not as enticing and engaging to watch. He only gets 955 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: a one word answer on this, so well, I mean 956 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to you know, I don't know how 957 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: long the segment is. You can answer as long as 958 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: you want. The time is valuable. He's gonna start charging 959 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: us per minute. Pretty soon you're hilarious. Uh me, it's 960 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: different for everybody. Everybody has a different position that they 961 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: don't enjoy. For me, it's safety, um, and really more 962 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: so over the last ten years when you were first, 963 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: when you first start scotting, I started, oh three, there 964 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: was a little bit more of traditional offense in college, 965 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: so you had a better you just had a better sense. 966 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: You saw a lot more things developing down the field, um, 967 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: and you could see these guys read and react well. 968 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: The college game now you see so much rpo game, 969 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: You see so many slants and bubble screens that you 970 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: can go through three games on a safety and you're like, 971 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: I don't know what this guy can do. He's you know, 972 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,280 Speaker 1: fourteen yards deep and it's just a bunch of slants 973 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: and bubble screens. Like and it literally you start rolling 974 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 1: through these guys and until I got the ability with 975 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, with the technology to be able to sort 976 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: cut ups where I can look at every play they're 977 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: involved in. So instead of just watching three games, I 978 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: can see every time they were kind of in the 979 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: vicinity of the football over an entire season. Um. It 980 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: makes it easier, but it still feels like to give 981 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: myself a I think this would be a nineties reference, 982 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: maybe early two thousand's. You remember the eminem video where 983 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: there's just all the Eminem's like, you know, walking around 984 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: and stuff. Yes, once you get outside the first two 985 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: rounds and you start watching safeties, like after the seventh one, 986 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the difference between this guy and the 987 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: previous four guys that I just watched? Uh? I gets 988 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 1: little challenging, that's fair, and and thank you so much 989 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: of your time, DJ before you go. I just want 990 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: to because you are the son of a preacher and 991 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: you're the wholesome assassin and all that, But just be 992 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: real with us. Would you rather got thirty two for 993 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: thirty two in your mock or have keyper or Mixshaye 994 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: go o for thirty two? Just be honest? Oh wow, 995 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: Uh you know what I would say? I would I 996 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: would I would rather go thirty two for thirty two. 997 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: But the real answer is I just don't care. I 998 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 1: really don't care about the mock draft and people get 999 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: so worked up about it. That's why I just kind 1000 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: of laugh. Man, Like I miss on players and we 1001 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: have fun with them all the time of the guys 1002 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: that I miss on in terms of my evaluation and 1003 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: and you know, okay that that's like, okay, I need 1004 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: to learn and get better from those mistakes. But like 1005 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:48,240 Speaker 1: mock drafts whatever. Yeah, if you're listening to executives like that, 1006 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: that sounds like a guy that might be doing his 1007 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: last mock draft. And I'm just saying, uh no, you 1008 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: can want and turn into a pumpkin man once we 1009 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: get through with this draft, not worried about mini camps 1010 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: and sweating it. Whether this guy picked in the first 1011 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: round is gonna come in here and look like a 1012 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: ball im I'm going on vacation. Yeah, we won't see 1013 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: DJ until he's in the booth at the stadium in Inglewood. 1014 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: All right, you can watch DJ and the entire NFL 1015 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: Draft on NFL Network starting Thursday, April night at eight 1016 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: p m. Eastern. Yeah it hurts, but it made the 1017 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: show better. DJ. Thank you for joining us. I appreciate 1018 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: It's always great to be with you guys and Greg. 1019 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: Don't forget it also comes with a coupon for Express 1020 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 1: With that Jackets will get your wife something nice. Good 1021 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: to know. Well, thanks DJ, There he goes. D J 1022 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: said it all even though Structure they rebranded and Structure 1023 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: became Express for men. UM. But you know, Greg, it 1024 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: was on his radar some of your style. Let's just 1025 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: put it that way. Yeah, I always I always worry, 1026 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: could you know we're gonna place some of that on 1027 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: on the around the NFL broadcast. People should check out 1028 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: our show on Fridays as always. And you know, I 1029 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: always wonder, like how how are those clothing? You know, 1030 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: insults gonna pop on a on a podcast. But I 1031 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: guess it's just a sign that DJ doesn't really understand 1032 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: the medium. You know, he's not a podcaster. Well, maybe 1033 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: one day he will be. Yeah, it'd be good, it definitely. Um. 1034 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: We received a flurry of texts from Greg after about 1035 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 1: the whole thing, so he was a little annoyed. I 1036 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: think he can go to your skin a little bit 1037 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: maybe and vice versa. I'm not sure. Maybe are you 1038 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: being serious? Not at all? Not, We're not being serious 1039 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: at all. Everything that we were discussing off the show 1040 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: is now part of this show. UM. And I will 1041 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: say keep in mind that maybe DJ knows that referencing 1042 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,479 Speaker 1: how you looked. Greg won't play for the podcast because 1043 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: he's secretly trying to destroy. Yeah, look at that too, 1044 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: because he's the son of the preacher. He's the wholesome assassin, 1045 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: but he is a killer man. He that's why he's 1046 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: the wholesome sense. He's competitive too, and that's why you know, 1047 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 1: coming in you know, second or third place behind us 1048 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: in terms of like audience, that the NFL, it kills 1049 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: him year after year. It's why I think it's gonna 1050 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: be his last year. Listen to Greg sharpening the dagger 1051 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: is returning fire on DJ. I think it really did 1052 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: get to him a little bit. Now. I think, you know, 1053 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: I can't there's nothing I can add u there to 1054 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: what Greg has just said. I think it's, you know, 1055 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: he's it's so hard to get under gray skin. It's 1056 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 1: it really is. I can, like I can count a 1057 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: few times I've done it, but like, even if you do, 1058 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't show it. Typically, I tend to think that 1059 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,479 Speaker 1: DJ and I get along well because I'm of zero 1060 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: threat to him. That's how I start to see it. 1061 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: So maybe he feels threatened by all these other I 1062 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: think DJ sees me as a as a kindred, wholesome 1063 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: assassin spirit. Yeah, you just you started the show by 1064 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,280 Speaker 1: telling us you bring your children to drug dens. Well, 1065 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was gonna be that way. The 1066 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: first Westlemania two was was pretty take in Hey, Ricky, 1067 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 1: get in here, Get in here a second? Do you 1068 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: think do you think DJ got under Greg's skin at 1069 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 1: that during that segment? You know him? Well, you just 1070 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,959 Speaker 1: did your gentle Nick Rosenthal, vanity projects, a live show 1071 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: and everything. You know Greg very well, yeah, yeah, he 1072 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 1: seems uh, pretty pretty agitated today. I'm not gonna lie. 1073 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's other stuff going on behind 1074 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: the scenes, but you know, Greg, you you do seem 1075 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 1: pretty uptight. Mm hmm. Interesting. Well, I'm gonna need me 1076 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: to Greg, so you're not. It's not just you Greg? 1077 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: You know, um I noticed that as well. Mark. You 1078 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: seem pretty piste off. What's up? Guys? You want to 1079 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 1: talk about it? Both seemed really uptight. I don't know, um. 1080 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have two more hours to get 1081 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: into it. So all right, who doesn't have anything to 1082 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: do with us? Smart? Yeah? Are you mad at? No? No, no, no, 1083 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: no no not it doesn't not not our little group here, 1084 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: not this foursome now, okay, are you mad at? It's 1085 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: it's the foresome Now I'm not mad at anyone. All Right, 1086 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: that's good, Okay, that's good. All right, Well I'm glad 1087 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: we settled that. Yeah, alright, good. We gotta get a 1088 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: get rolling because our NFL network hit is on UM 1089 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: every Thursday, check it out on NFL Now with Andrew 1090 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 1: Siciliano or whoever is in that host chair. We do 1091 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 1: a live hit UM and like Greg alluded to, uh 1092 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: NFL network, We're back on Friday at a later time, actually, 1093 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: I believe. So check out your local listings and please 1094 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: DVR the show. Give us a support on that end 1095 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: of things, and of course, on this end of things. 1096 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 1: If you we haven't asked for this in a while, 1097 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 1: if you can leave some comments, some five star ratings, 1098 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 1: that would that's always a big deal. We're trying to 1099 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: win a sole award. What is it? What's the word? 1100 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: A Sony award? You you bungling the name show after 1101 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: show kind of indicates it's not right on top of 1102 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: our price Cyclops Award. We're trying to win a Cyclops. 1103 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: That would be an awesome trow Remember imagine if you 1104 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: won this award and it was like a head, like 1105 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: a Cyclops with a big. I like, you know one 1106 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 1: of those characters Ricky what is the name of the award, 1107 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: one of those characters the sign ops you don't know 1108 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: it either wants this is making me feel better? All right, good, yeah, 1109 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out and then we'll 1110 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,919 Speaker 1: be back Monday. And remember, yes, we're going multi times 1111 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 1: a week, two times a week with the podcast and 1112 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: then the network show. Um right now, but we'll be 1113 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: five days a week draft weeks, so look forward to 1114 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: that as well. All Right, that's it, everybody. We're almost 1115 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: of the weekend. M but maybe'll take the rest of 1116 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: this day. Maybe we all drop off the radar, we 1117 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, and we come back tomorrow for 1118 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: the network show. Feeling great. That's a good plan, A 1119 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: good stuff, all right. This Dan had the signing off 1120 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: for a quiet storm the old boss Ricky Hollywood behind 1121 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: the virtual of glass. Be good to each other. Everybody 1122 00:57:19,280 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: heat the call, m M m HM six