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Speaker 1: We got a very special guest joining us tonight. Oh

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Speaker 1: Joe tackles to pass defenders defendant and he's a part

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Speaker 1: of the Cardiac Bears. Here your hey, card c b one,

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Speaker 1: heyj Jaylen Johnson, Jay, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: Good to see y'all again.

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Speaker 2: Good to see Jay. Hey.

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Speaker 1: When you come on night Cap. You normally have to

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Speaker 1: get the comeback later this season because you had a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, All Pro season, or your team's in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That's just the way it pans out. So that game

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Speaker 1: is not going the way you want it. Uh, they're

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Speaker 1: going up and down the field. Jeorde Love three touchdowns

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Speaker 1: in the first half, twenty one and three. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so what's going So? Walk us through the locker room

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Speaker 1: at halftime? What did Ben Johnson say? What were some

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Speaker 1: of the leaders saying? And then the start of that

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, what was the sideline?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 5: Honestly it was it was honestly a crazy turning events

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Speaker 5: like we of course come out, we turned that, we

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Speaker 5: ready to go, and then we go down twenty one

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Speaker 5: three and it's like, man, everybody shut the hell of it.

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Speaker 5: Ain't no more talking, ain't yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now, ain't no more who uh.

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Speaker 5: And I just remember Kevin Byer the whole time he

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Speaker 5: was like, man, talking ain't gonna help us execute, Like

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Speaker 5: we need to stop talking and doing all this and

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Speaker 5: settle in. And then really just at halftime that was

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Speaker 5: the biggest thing, like it can't get no worse than this,

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Speaker 5: Like I mean, at the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 5: twenty one three, almost twenty one blow. But I think too,

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Speaker 5: like coach showed us a video of like a whole

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Speaker 5: breakdown during the during camp of the Falcons and Patriots

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Speaker 5: game when they went up twenty eight three and all that,

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Speaker 5: and just shows like the composure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he showed that that to us early.

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Speaker 3: So just like.

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Speaker 5: Talking to Joe Tooney, telling him because he was on

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Speaker 5: the winning side of it and then Jared was on

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Speaker 5: the losing side of it, so having both of them

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Speaker 5: be of their perspectives on it, and then it really

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Speaker 5: just he brought it back up like this is that moment,

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Speaker 5: Like think back to the conversation that we had and

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Speaker 5: what it took for for them to get back into

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Speaker 5: hundred one possession at a time, defense gets stopped, offense

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Speaker 4: And that was really it.

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Speaker 5: So when we came out on defense. It was like, man,

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Speaker 5: we got to get stops. If we figured if they

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Speaker 5: didn't score, no more than we'll win the game. So

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Speaker 5: but that's all we were focus on, really on defense,

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Speaker 5: just executing and playing more aggressive.

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Speaker 6: Hey, what what has it been like? That entire culture

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Speaker 6: has shifted because of one man. Obviously having a quarterback

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Speaker 6: like Caleb Williams, and you get someone a coach, a

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Speaker 6: player friendly coach as I'd like to call it, in

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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson and coming to there, is he the sole

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Speaker 6: reason for the reason you guys are having the kind

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Speaker 6: of success you guys are having.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's hard to say the sole reason. I think,

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Speaker 5: for one, just the timing I would have everything. The

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Speaker 5: only person get credit for that is guy out of course,

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Speaker 5: but I think really just the timing of when Ben

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Speaker 5: got here, when Caleb got here, won.

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Speaker 4: A lot of these pieces all got here.

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Speaker 5: I think it'll be different if he got here three

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Speaker 5: four years ago, the team looked different.

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Speaker 4: Situation is different.

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Speaker 5: But I'll definitely say his leadership, his competitiveness has definitely

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Speaker 5: changed the trajectory of how we looked at approaching games

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Speaker 5: and and and again too. I mean, he'd be a

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Speaker 5: good leader or you want but you're dolanding up on

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Speaker 5: offense as well. And he's always been doing that, and

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Speaker 5: I think just the way he controls the game. Even

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Speaker 5: going into that game, he's like, if we win it,

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Speaker 5: we want to receive. We want to control the temple,

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Speaker 5: control the ball. And it's like, no, man, I ain't

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Speaker 5: never heard nobody say this. We wanted to go out

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Speaker 5: there and set the tone. It's like, no, let us

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Speaker 4: So he's definitely ahead of it.

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Speaker 1: When attack, he's an offensive minded coach. He wants to attack.

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Speaker 1: He's like, oh, they think they got a defense. We

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Speaker 1: want the ball, no doubt, we want the ball. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna show them. We were gonna take this ball and

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Speaker 1: go right down to their field. There was a throw

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Speaker 1: and I know you saw them the sideline. That one

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Speaker 1: that Caleb, that's your season. If you don't make that,

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Speaker 1: that's forth to the level. If you don't get that, JJ,

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Speaker 1: your season's over.

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Speaker 3: He fought.

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Speaker 1: He's rolling to his left, he backs and stumbles and throws.

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Speaker 2: A dime for fifteen.

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Speaker 4: When you saw that, he's more accurate going that way.

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Speaker 4: That's the crazy point, Like it's all like it's backwards

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Speaker 5: It's like you don't even want to flush him to

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Speaker 5: his left because he's still get it off accurate. But

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Speaker 5: when he threw it, it was just like man, what

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Speaker 5: the ooh okay, it was just like one of those

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Speaker 5: just like you think, like, man, it's over here out

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Speaker 5: here doing some crazy stuff and it worked.

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Speaker 4: So I think I can't even say it works. That's

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Speaker 4: just part of his game.

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Speaker 5: Like at this point, it's not even something that you

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Speaker 5: can just say, is that just happens or magical? DENI

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Speaker 5: It's like nah, he's like he's legit at that, and

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Speaker 5: he does it in practice. It's been clearly been doing

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Speaker 5: this forever. So it's just it's just really who he is.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny because I think yesterday came in I've

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Speaker 5: seen him. It might have been a day I seen

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Speaker 5: him and say hey man, sometime I got a looking

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Speaker 5: man in the eye and just say say good job,

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Speaker 5: you're doing a job. Because some of the stuff he

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Speaker 4: That's not something you'll see every day.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at you guys.

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Speaker 1: You guys were down with a less than two minutes

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Speaker 1: to go to the Raiders twenty four nineteen. When that

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Speaker 1: to the Bengals with nineteen seconds, you win that game.

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Speaker 1: You're down against the Vikings with four seconds, you win

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Speaker 1: that game. Second and goal twenty seven to sixteen Green

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Speaker 2: You win that game.

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Speaker 1: How have you guys been able to maintain your composure

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Speaker 1: when all scenes lost? Like damn, how we find ourselves

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Speaker 1: in that situation and somehow you guys make a play

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Speaker 1: they cash it in.

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Speaker 5: I think execution brings confidence, and I think at the

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Speaker 5: end of the day for us, we've been able to

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Speaker 5: with that you naturally have confidence where it's like, all

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Speaker 5: we got to do is give the opportunity to close

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Speaker 5: close the game out. I think that's really the mentality

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Speaker 5: we got a way to win. So I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: just one of those things where it's switched forwards. I

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Speaker 5: mean for a long time it's been the exact opposite,

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Speaker 5: where we find ways to lose the damn game.

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Speaker 4: So I think for us in.

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Speaker 5: This building, in this culture and what we have now,

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Speaker 5: we find ways to win.

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Speaker 1: There's a viral video going on where you're kneeling down

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Speaker 1: tricking on Christian Watson on the final player of the game.

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Speaker 1: Walk us through that moment. What was going, what were

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, of course everybody's seen the prayer video

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Speaker 5: when I prayed for him when he injured his knee,

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Speaker 5: But really, I think for me it was just really

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Speaker 5: but just telling him like way to push through, way

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Speaker 5: he injured and all that, and of course just competitive.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's still fast and still run, still blazing.

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Speaker 5: I think it's just just a blessing to just see

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Speaker 5: we don't have to see each other no more. Definitely

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Speaker 5: wanted to take that time and tell him like, nah,

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Speaker 5: like I'm proud of you and how you bounce back.

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Speaker 5: And I felt like that was some I don't want

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Speaker 1: A lot of being made about being in the locker

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Speaker 1: room saying the packers after the week. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and then you see it. I mean he almost like,

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Speaker 1: I mean he read up that hair. You know, normally

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Speaker 1: the coaches they run up there, they shake each other hand,

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Speaker 1: they lead the good luck, Hey, wish you the best

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Speaker 1: man being here, like, hey like you like he stole

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, it's one of those things where it's like,

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Speaker 5: it's good to see that competitior I feel like people

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Speaker 5: then when he shows and it's all he's, uh, he's this,

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Speaker 5: he's that, It's like, either you want the competitiveness or

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Speaker 5: it's a rivalry. Coaches have hidden rivalries. I mean they've

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Speaker 5: been competing for a long time against each other. I mean,

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Speaker 5: is he's embracing in that Chicago nature too.

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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, Yeah, hey, you guys

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Speaker 6: obviously had the Rams coming up, and obviously not wanting

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Speaker 6: to give a game plan away. But I think, what

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Speaker 6: do you guys think defensively to be able not to

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Speaker 6: stop but to contain DeVante Adams poo in the core.

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Speaker 7: And Matt Stafford and those boys.

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Speaker 5: Offensively, I think guys like me got to strap up.

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Speaker 5: I think it's kind of just as simple as that,

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Speaker 5: because I mean it's not something so much too high

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Speaker 5: you can play. They gonna run the ball, so I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's not like you can just hide and try to

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Speaker 5: just do all these things. I mean, at the end

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Speaker 5: to hit home as well. So I mean, hopefully there's

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Speaker 5: some we gonna have some. I mean it's Monday, so

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Speaker 5: I mean we got we got some time to figure

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Speaker 5: out how we execute it. But I know, especially for me,

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Speaker 5: this is a pride game. I go into this game

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Speaker 5: more than more than excited, more than willing and able

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Speaker 5: to go handle whatever needs to get handled.

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Speaker 4: I mean, for myself. I'm just preparing myself for that.

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Speaker 5: But I know everybody on the back end, we all

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Speaker 5: gotta we all got to step up and really take

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Speaker 5: part in this game, because I mean, it's gonna go through,

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Speaker 5: It's gonna go through people. Pookah, It's gonna go through

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Speaker 5: Davante and the big boys up front got a handle

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Speaker 7: Well, well to you.

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Speaker 5: I'm calling you up, heyase there you go.

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Speaker 2: I got this up.

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Speaker 6: I got you listen on the field off the field.

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Speaker 4: I had you right, I'm already on it. I just

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Speaker 2: The other day.

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Speaker 4: That's why I'm trying to tell you. I'll bring it

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Speaker 2: Ask the guys about me.

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Speaker 5: I bring McDonald's chicks play breakfast every other out of that.

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Speaker 7: You see, you see why he's so grated.

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Speaker 3: What you do, huh?

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Speaker 4: Taking show for show? You gotta get what they want.

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Speaker 1: See if he's eating the chicken bread and he's eating

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Speaker 8: Oh that.

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Speaker 1: No, but but that's the But that's the that's the

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Speaker 2: The man had surgery. He just came back.

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Speaker 1: He's having to take injections just to get his ass

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Speaker 2: But you know what. All they see is one with Johnson.

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Speaker 1: They don't care, but they don't care how you guys,

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Speaker 5: But I mean, for me, I ain't worried about at

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Speaker 1: Well, we're glad you're back, man, hopefully you get healthy,

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Speaker 1: but hopefully the off season get you get to push

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Speaker 3: Right, No, I ain't.

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Speaker 4: I ain't going home.

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Speaker 2: Got a big fight right now.

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Speaker 4: I ain't going home right now.

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Speaker 2: So back.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the unbelievable season. Glad you got an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to come back, stay healthy, go out there a you want.

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Speaker 2: Step closer, no doubt, step closer. Man. Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Hey, when y'all can't care of that, get to get

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Speaker 4: I'll be back to me all right.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Jalen Johnson cornerback, Chicago Bear. They play Sunday,

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Speaker 1: take on the Los Angeles Rams. He had a breakout

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Speaker 1: outstanding running back from the Houston Texans. Woody Marx what

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Speaker 2: What's up? Woody? You muted?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good? What's up?

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Speaker 2: Okay? We're good? Ali? So how you doing? Bro? You good?

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Speaker 2: Talk to us about that performance.

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Speaker 1: You guys, you your best game of your career and

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Speaker 2: You're in Pittsburgh. You know they do a really good

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Speaker 1: Why were you guys able to have such success running

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Speaker 3: Everybody started Wednesday.

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Speaker 9: I knew, I knew it was gonna have a big

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Speaker 9: Then it was like I was running back. Coach he

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Speaker 2: It seemed like you guys wore him down.

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Speaker 1: They had a Demika on the sideline. He was talking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, we was winning down.

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Speaker 9: You kind of heard it them talking on the back end,

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Speaker 9: That's what Nick Tchubb told us. We gotta do, so

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Speaker 9: We're gonna play bullyball too.

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Speaker 2: Hey. Hey, what are you from the age? Hey?

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Speaker 10: What's up? Bron Hey? Hey, tam me tell me something.

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Speaker 10: What's the biggest what's the biggest changes.

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Speaker 2: Uh, from the from the.

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Speaker 10: Regular season to the postseason that you notice in in.

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Speaker 9: The destructive of it. You gotta be locked in, no

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Speaker 3: How you where.

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Speaker 9: You putting the landmark at everything matters?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What? What? What? What high school?

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Speaker 7: You go to?

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Speaker 9: It at?

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Speaker 8: La?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Okay okay.

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk also had one hundred and forty four receiving yards.

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Speaker 2: What what's I mean?

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Speaker 1: You guys have your best day on the biggest stage

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Speaker 1: mean because you I've been struggled a little bit early on.

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Speaker 1: You had three turnovers, your defense kept didn't didn't be

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Speaker 2: But you guys got it together.

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Speaker 1: What was it about that week of practice that let

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Speaker 2: But you made it look convinced.

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Speaker 9: Replay plays I think we went that was our fastest

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Speaker 10: So yeah, hey, hey, what is like playing for DeMarco?

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Speaker 10: Would he considering you know, him being a former player,

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Speaker 10: and what's that?

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Speaker 2: What's that? What's that?

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Speaker 3: It's kind of is this good? Just seeing him?

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Speaker 9: He be over there on the defense side playing linebacker

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Speaker 9: when we on scouts team, so he was he tried,

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Speaker 9: he tried to break it like you don't got no pass,

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Speaker 9: so you better move out the way.

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Speaker 2: Hey what are you telling?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Demiko bro, if I'd have been playing when you

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Speaker 1: had been playing, I read. Yeah, look, you got a

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Speaker 1: play outstanding defense, do not do not turn the ball over,

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Speaker 1: be snow. You guys play indoors. You guys play ended,

444
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Speaker 1: they play indoors. You play in Jacksonville. It's really nice

445
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Speaker 1: and sunny. And Tennessee. I don't know when you went

446
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Speaker 1: to Tennessee. Sometimes Tennessee it does get cold in Nashville.

447
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Speaker 1: But this is what you you one step away from

448
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Speaker 1: being in the AFC Championship game. What is your thought process?

449
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Speaker 1: What is Demico today with your first day of practice?

450
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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, so no yesterday with your first

451
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Speaker 1: deal practice, what was the what has been Demko's message?

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Speaker 9: I conna play Houston ball. We're a tough team, no

453
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Speaker 9: matter the condition. When they placed that ball down, we're

454
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Speaker 9: gonna get the rocket we is. That's where we live.

455
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Speaker 9: By offense, defense, presient team. We all get the rocking

456
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Speaker 9: when they place the ball down. We played inside, but

457
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Speaker 9: we were football players. We don't play it in the

458
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Speaker 9: right before. We don't play it in the snow before.

459
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Speaker 9: Probably not football, but we don't been outside in this

460
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Speaker 9: snow just playing around as kids, so we know the

461
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Speaker 9: feeling of it.

462
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Speaker 3: When we get there, we'll be used to it.

463
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Speaker 1: You played for Cliff kingsbrid UFC Demico. What's the biggest

464
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Speaker 1: difference between and Cliff.

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Speaker 9: I was with Link Link most of the time. It's

466
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Speaker 9: really not a difference. So Link kind of did the

467
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Speaker 9: same thing be over there on scout team. But Lincoln

468
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Speaker 9: he was He was more of an offensive, offensive minded guy.

469
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Speaker 9: Demiko he more of a defensive guy. So you kind

470
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Speaker 9: of see the difference in between that. But both of

471
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Speaker 9: them run the ball. Just hearing him say, we want

472
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Speaker 9: to run the ball. You got to run the ball.

473
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Speaker 9: That's that's what people have been preaching to me. You

474
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Speaker 9: got to run the ball in the playoffs.

475
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Speaker 10: Yeah, especially under them conditions. Y'all might be under you

476
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Speaker 10: know this this weekend and you're gonna have your love,

477
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Speaker 10: your lunch pair ready ready to go. Man, have a

478
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Speaker 10: big boy pads on Houston. Man, was it like living

479
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Speaker 10: in Houston with.

480
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Speaker 8: What I.

481
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Speaker 2: We're gonna come down and hang out with it.

482
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Speaker 3: But about you've been in Atlanta before.

483
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Speaker 8: It's the same.

484
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Speaker 2: I said that, man, I said, it's like.

485
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Speaker 9: A bigger It's a bigger Atlanta, about the same thing going.

486
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Speaker 3: She got good food. Uh m hmm everything what.

487
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Speaker 9: Everything you got in Atlanta, you got out here.

488
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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think they got a little

489
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Speaker 2: bit more it used to with.

490
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Speaker 9: H Yeah, they probably got a little bit more.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, you gotta spread out there, Come up me. Oh,

492
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Speaker 1: Joe and Joe, we need to come out there. We

493
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Speaker 1: need to place the place to lay ahead.

494
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Speaker 3: We good, got y'all for sure?

495
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Speaker 2: All right?

496
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Speaker 1: That what I'm talking about. That what I'm talking about

497
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Speaker 1: about home y'all. That's my homeboy for the crib. You know, homeboys.

498
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Speaker 1: We go Hey, we go out, you know, grounding him

499
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Speaker 1: and Drake, that's all.

500
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Speaker 2: You know. We go uber everywhere we go. We on

501
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Speaker 2: need have no ride uber. Yeah, be good.

502
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Speaker 3: Black truck.

503
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Speaker 10: Huh, black truck, black truck, he said, Yeah, Okay, you

504
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Speaker 10: for that.

505
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Speaker 2: I'm all for that.

506
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Speaker 7: Huh.

507
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Speaker 3: It's on you though.

508
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Speaker 2: Oh, I got I gotta, I.

509
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Speaker 1: Got, I gotta cover that one hospitality I got, y'all.

510
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Speaker 3: Damn, I got you the crib.

511
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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, that's good enough. That's all I need,

512
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Speaker 1: all I need. Beggas can't be choosing you know what.

513
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Speaker 1: You know what we're we appreciate that we were gonna

514
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Speaker 1: have well had a little.

515
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Speaker 2: We'll do that.

516
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Speaker 1: Hey man, congratulations man, great work on Monday night. Man,

517
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Speaker 1: carry it over you guys look good. Tell demko, I said,

518
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Speaker 1: what's up? Man, wish you the best of looks?

519
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Speaker 2: Good luck? Bro Yes, sir? What it?

520
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Speaker 1: Mark down standing, young running back for the Houston Texas,

521
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: had a breakout game. Nineteen carries, one hundred and twelve yards,

522
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Speaker 1: one touchdown. He ran extremely hard all night long, and

523
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Speaker 1: at the end it was that running, physical style that

524
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans offensive line and running backs played with

525
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Speaker 1: that finally wore down in the levee burst and when

526
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Speaker 1: he wrocked that long, that touchdown run, you could see

527
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Speaker 1: that was the Pittsburgh Steelers. You saw something you hadn't

528
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Speaker 1: seen from a Steelers defense in a very long time.

529
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Speaker 1: They hung their heads because they know they had thoroughly

530
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Speaker 1: gotten their ass kicked that night.

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Speaker 10: So listen, glad that their run game and that defense.

532
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Speaker 10: Oh that's what a keuple minutes.

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Speaker 2: Y'all ran. What are we gonna get you out on

534
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Speaker 2: this though? But y'all you ran so hard. Man. Mike

535
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Speaker 2: Thomas stepped down and there he said man, I don't

536
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Speaker 2: want no more is that? Man?

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Speaker 1: You said that, young man come in there and the

538
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Speaker 1: other dude did that the deepen beat us like that,

539
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Speaker 1: but appreciate that with it man, enjoyed and enjoying this time. Man, hey,

540
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Speaker 1: you got something special going. Keep it going, bro. Appreciate you, yes, sir.

541
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Speaker 2: Oh yo.

542
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Speaker 1: There's a viral video going around about a reporter having

543
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Speaker 1: words of encouragement from Lin Cohen following the Jack's playoff loss.

544
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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to what the video.

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Speaker 11: Uh, how you doing today, Lynn Jones, Jacksonville Free Press News.

546
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Speaker 11: I just want to tell you congratulations on your success,

547
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Speaker 11: young man. You hold your head up all right. You

548
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Speaker 11: guys have had a most magnificent season. He did a

549
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Speaker 11: great job out there today. So you just hold your

550
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Speaker 11: head up. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, do for you the

551
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Speaker 11: one all right, keep it going, We got another season,

552
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Speaker 11: okay for take care and much continued success to you

553
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Speaker 11: in the entire team.

554
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Speaker 3: Thank you, ma'm.

555
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Speaker 2: Wow.

556
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Speaker 1: As a video is very heartwarming, yesthers have called it

557
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Speaker 1: out now. Lynn Jones said that she's under criticism because

558
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Speaker 1: she's black. I'm a member of the black press. I'm

559
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Speaker 1: the editor of the Jacksonville Free Press in one of

560
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Speaker 1: the more than two hundred and thirty African American papers

561
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Speaker 1: support the Black Press.

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Speaker 6: Oh Joe, talk to me, because you're better, because you're

563
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Speaker 6: you're somewhat in that space and understand when it comes

564
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Speaker 6: to journalism what you can and what you can do,

565
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Speaker 6: what's professional, what's not professional, And for me on the

566
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Speaker 6: outside looking in being that, I'm not really in that

567
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Speaker 6: space being a player, not being a coach, but being

568
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Speaker 6: a player. And hearing words like that coming from someone

569
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Speaker 6: who is supposed to be a journalist and ask questions

570
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Speaker 6: on maybe why did you lose what then go right?

571
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Speaker 7: Stuff like that and.

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Speaker 6: Hearing something different for a change, to me, it was refreshing, Yes,

573
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Speaker 6: breshing to hear. I'm not used to it. That is

574
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Speaker 6: my first time ever hearing someone appro.

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Speaker 1: Probably the first time. Yeah, my first time hearing something

576
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Speaker 1: like that.

577
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Speaker 7: Is so I would love I would love to hear

578
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Speaker 7: your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: On what she Normally, media members are supposed to be independent. Yes,

580
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Speaker 1: they're not supposed to support or criticize. I mean, you

581
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Speaker 1: know you could criticize well out of the plays here,

582
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Speaker 1: the plays that, but she it's not like she's a columnist.

583
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Speaker 1: A columnist is different than a beat reporter. So from

584
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Speaker 1: on one hand, yes, that is very out of the

585
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Speaker 1: ordinary for them, for a reporter to say, you keep

586
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Speaker 1: your head up. Yes, sir, you did a good job.

587
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Speaker 1: We're proud of you. Whatever, whatever, all she's said, there's

588
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Speaker 1: next year. Normally, reporters coach. Obviously it was a tough

589
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Speaker 1: loss for the season. But what what did you think

590
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Speaker 1: if you could do it over again? What would you

591
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Speaker 1: like to have over what we played for? You know,

592
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Speaker 1: things that nature, So we don't normally. That's I think

593
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Speaker 1: a better word is that reporters are supposed to lack empathy.

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Speaker 1: They're not supposed to show compassion. And that moment, she

595
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Speaker 1: can see that his head was down. She's probably covered up.

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Speaker 1: She's probably been every press confidence this man has hand

597
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Speaker 1: since he's been the head coach of the Jacks. Yes,

598
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Speaker 1: she can see he was hurting. She would see he

599
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Speaker 1: was down. The empathy that she showed in that moment,

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Speaker 1: most journalists, like I understand it's nice, but she can't.

601
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Speaker 1: She's not supposed to do that. She's supposed to be Switzerland.

602
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Speaker 1: She's supposed to be neutral, right, So she's not supposed

603
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Speaker 1: to be sad. She's not supposed to be excited. She's

604
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Speaker 1: not supposed to be disappointed, she's not supposed to be angry.

605
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Speaker 1: She's supposed to just ask questions and do.

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Speaker 7: Her job based as it matter of fact, see her.

607
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Speaker 6: She she is the outlet for what the fans want

608
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Speaker 6: to hear. She's supposed to ask the question to the

609
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Speaker 6: head coach in that moment, so the fans get the

610
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Speaker 6: answers on why things can go the way they think

611
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Speaker 6: it should have.

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Speaker 7: That is correct, Yeah, listen, I understand both sides.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, the notion that it was unprofessional, I don't like

614
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Speaker 6: that part of it, because to me, it was refreshing

615
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Speaker 6: to hear reporter actually half empathy for a head coach

616
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Speaker 6: in that situation, with all the work that they put in,

617
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Speaker 6: the success that they had the season, and seeing that

618
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Speaker 6: coach is obviously destroyed, you know, in that moment, So

619
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Speaker 6: giving him and giving him that praise in that moment,

620
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Speaker 6: I don't see anything wrong with it. But I can

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Speaker 6: see those that are journalists, that are columnists, that are

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Speaker 6: in that space and do their job in a certain manner,

623
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Speaker 6: in a certain way, and finally seeing someone do it

624
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Speaker 6: a little bit differently than what they're not.

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Speaker 7: Used to hearing or seeing. I can see why they're upset.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not surprised that she got the criticism that

628
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Speaker 1: she got. I knew that was coming. I knew that

629
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Speaker 1: was coming because, like you said, like I said, journalists

630
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Speaker 1: are not supposed to have basically any emotion. You're just asking.

631
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Speaker 1: You're just asking questions because you are the the link

632
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Speaker 1: between the fan and the coach. You're asking questions that

633
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Speaker 1: you think the fans would want, that would want answers to,

634
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: and deserve answers to. So you're not supposed if someone's down,

635
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Speaker 1: You're not supposed to show compassion. Somebody's feeling so too good,

636
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Speaker 1: You're not supposed to try and bring them down. You're

637
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Speaker 1: just you're there. You're just to ask questions. But like

638
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Speaker 1: you said, it is, it is, it is. Uh, it

639
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: was different, And I think I wish personally more people

640
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Speaker 1: had empathy. I don't think we have enough, No, absolutely not.

641
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Speaker 1: I don't think we have enough compassion.

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Speaker 7: Especially in those spaces, especially those space.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious what with the chat would think chat.

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Speaker 2: I would love to.

645
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Speaker 6: Hear your thoughts, you know, on on on her, you know,

646
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 6: taking a different approach as opposed to asking questions but

647
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 6: giving coach grace, you know, for the work he had

648
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Speaker 6: done and telling him to keep his head up.

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Speaker 7: I'm just curious to hear what you guys may think

650
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Speaker 7: as well.

651
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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing is, I think for the most part,

653
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Speaker 1: the chat is gonna like most people are level headed,

654
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: and they they it's kind of like, oh yo, I

655
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Speaker 1: look at it like this. When somebody else have surgery,

656
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: it's minor. When you have surgery's major. So people don't

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Speaker 1: as long as if I get empathy, I'm cool with

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Speaker 1: no one else getting empathy or compassion. And I think

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Speaker 1: the thing is is that you know, we've all been

660
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Speaker 1: there and we needed needed.

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Speaker 2: To pick me up.

662
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Speaker 1: And I think in that space as a journalist, that's

663
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: one of the things that you're talking journalism. You're not

664
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Speaker 1: supposed to feel one way or another, or you supposed

665
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: to suppress those and not let people know. Do I

666
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 1: think journalists have a liken to certain players? Sure do

667
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: I think journalists have alike it to certain coaches? Sure

668
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: do I think players do. I think journalists have a

669
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: certain dislike to certain players and coaches. Absolutely, Yes, At

670
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day, a journalist is a human being.

671
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: You might be you might supposed to be able to

672
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Speaker 1: contain your emotions. That doesn't mean you're absence of them.

673
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest thing is that people think, Okay,

674
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: you're this. No, I still have emotions, I still have feelings,

675
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: I still have empathy, I still feel sympathy, I still

676
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: have compassion, I still have You know, I get angry

677
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: or get upset or whatever the term that you want

678
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: to use at the end of the day, no matter

679
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: what my occupation is, what my title is, no matter

680
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: how much money, at the end of the day, when

681
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 1: you if I got seven hundred billion, if you got

682
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Elon Musk money, Musk is still a man. He's still

683
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Maybe the same thing that trigger that makes him get

684
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: upset doesn't make you get upset. Maybe it's the same

685
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: thing that what makes him happy doesn't make you happy.

686
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: But he still has emotions. Humans are not robots, they're

687
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: They're not devoid of feelings.

688
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: But I thought it was it was a.

689
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: It was refreshing to hear her say that, but I

690
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: knew she was gonna catch some criticism for for saying

691
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: in that space. Now she had pulled him aside, nobody

692
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: would ever heard, but she said in a public form,

693
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, so I'm not I'm not

694
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: surprised that of the criticism that she's receiving for what

695
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: she said, because I knew it was gonna happen on Joe,

696
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: I did, I really did. It's over and done when now.

697
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I just you know, sometimes I do wish

698
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: we had more compassion in that, you know. Uh, But

699
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: some people have more than others. That's just the way

700
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: it is, oh, Joe. We some people just have more

701
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: compassion than others. I mean, uh, maybe and maybe it's

702
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: a game, but I always give homeless people money, and

703
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: maybe it's a car. Maybe they're not homeless at all.

704
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe they got a car parked across the

705
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: streets somewhere and they're getting their car and and change

706
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: clothes and go home and shy, we put on it

707
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: and and do it all over again.

708
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: But hey, it is what it is.

709
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 8: There.

710
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: They'll have to answer for that. I won't.

711
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: That's that's the way I look at it. That's that's

712
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: the way I look at it. So, uh, I like

713
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Lim Cohen, I think I think the Jags have a

714
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: very very bright, promising future in front of them. Yeah,

715
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: they got they got a good team. They got a

716
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: good team, and the guy they took with the second

717
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: pick in the draft really didn't give them anything. So

718
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: when he comes back, uh as a wide receiver. You

719
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: saw Park of Washington step up. They got Jacobi Myers. Uh,

720
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior didn't have the type of season that

721
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: he had the appreciate year. Yes, so just imagine if

722
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: he gets back to what he was Ojo.

723
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 7: Man, you know, you know what, And I also look

724
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 7: at it.

725
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 6: We're now with the way Park of Washington play this year,

726
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 6: Brian tom Junior is probably going to be there next year.

727
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 6: Jacobe's there. Now I can see a role where now

728
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 6: Travis Hunter playing full.

729
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: Time BB and a part time wide receiver.

730
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, full time dB, part time wide receiver.

731
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 4: Yep.

732
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 7: I think that's probably what it's going to be.

733
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: Which I thought was the best case scenario for him anyway.

734
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: But hey, you said that'll be something that I'm sure

735
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: we'll have an opportunity to talk about that once they

736
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: get back into the OTAs again, and once they get

737
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 1: in the training camp, we'll kind of see where and

738
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure the reporters that are at practice, they'll be

739
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: he's taking this many snaps on the defensive side, this

740
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: many snaps on the offensive side, and maybe it flow

741
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: fluctuates up and down, but I think that's kind of

742
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: the direction that they're heading in. I think probably where

743
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: he gets the majority of his snaps on the defensive

744
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: side and takes a few snaps here and there where

745
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: he can help them on the offensive side. Big news

746
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: of today Mike Tomlin, after nineteen years, steps down for

747
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. And because he stepped down, that means

748
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: if he signs with another team, they're gonna owe the

749
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers' compensation. So it probably was a mutual little agreement. Look,

750
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: you do your thing, we're gonna do our thing. We're

751
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: gonna move in a different direction. But to make it

752
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: look classy, we're not terminating you. Because that's three coaches

753
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: in fifty years. Chuck n'hoan took it from sixty nine

754
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: to ninety two, Coach Kyle we took it from what

755
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: from ninety two until two thousand and six, two thousand

756
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: and seven, and then Mike Tomlin took it over from there.

757
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: So they've only had three coaches in fifty plush in

758
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: what since nineteen sixty nine?

759
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: Ye?

760
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: I mean, so you can't argue the success that the

761
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: Steelers have had. But I think this was great for

762
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: both teams because I do not believe the Pittsburgh Steelers

763
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: were any closer be it with Mike Tomlin, based on

764
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: how their roster is assembled, the quarterback situation, the offense,

765
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't think they were close. And uh, having a

766
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: non losing season, that's not what you're really going for

767
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: with Joe.

768
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 6: And that's not the standard. It's never been the standing

769
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 6: with to come to the Pittsburgh Steelers. There a championship

770
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 6: winning organization. If I'm not mistaken, they had what five

771
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: six lombardis they have six. So obviously with the standard

772
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 6: me and the standard, you can't be satisfied. We're just saying, Okay,

773
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 6: at least we don't have a non lose season. We

774
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 6: above five hundred this year. We talked about it last night.

775
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 6: I think they're allowed to Mike, allow him to walk

776
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 6: away and long behold today you know he walks away.

777
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: Its shocked. I didn't like that. What do you think, man?

778
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 10: I think I think Mike Tomlin took a good hard

779
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 10: look at the situation and was like, you know what,

780
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 10: maybe I should take some time.

781
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: I think it was a mutual decision.

782
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 10: And I think he's going to get a coaching job

783
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 10: somewhere because there's so many coaching vacancies in the NFL

784
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 10: right now, and it's a lot of jobs that look

785
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 10: pretty good, and I think I think he'll definitely end

786
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 10: up coaching, gatting someone b Personally, I think he moves

787
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 10: to the front of the list.

788
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: I think he jumps in front of John Harball. I

789
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: think so.

790
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: And you look, now, what thought was you know Harbor

791
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: has his pick a pick now with Mike Tomlin on

792
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: the thing, because you're talking about somebody that's been nineteen years,

793
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: that's been the multiple super Bowl.

794
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: Yes, he's only won one.

795
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: He's won more division titles than John Harbaugh. So the Giants,

796
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: that looks a feeling, Atlanta, that looks a feeling. Tennessee,

797
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: that looks a feeling. I think Mike Thomas is going

798
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: to have this choice where he wants to go. Where

799
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: does he want to coach, Does he want to take

800
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: a year off just do TV, or does he want

801
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: to jump right back in.

802
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 6: What if it's not even the NFL. What if he

803
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 6: takes a college job. What is some vacancies in college?

804
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if he wants to have to deal

805
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: with the NIL drama. But still, I think Mike Thoma

806
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 6: is going to be able to go any where, whether

807
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 6: it's a college levels, the NFL. But he's gonna have

808
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 6: to go to a situation that's advantageous for him. But

809
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 6: if you don't have a quarterback, you can be right

810
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 6: back in purgatory. Like you what with the damn Steelers?

811
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Right?

812
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 8: I agree?

813
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: I don't see. I don't see college with my comm

814
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't see. And first of all,

815
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: there's no college vacancies open currently. Uh that higher cycle.

816
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, LSU's gotten filled by lankd been, Penn State's

817
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: been feeled. So all the coaching vagancies have been feeled.

818
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: But they have a lot of them in the NFL.

819
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: Arizona's available, Atlanta's available, Tennessee is available.

820
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: The Giants are available. I like the Giants. Ay.

821
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: Now, it's been reported that Lafleur and the Packers are

822
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: trying to work on a long term depause. You got

823
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: one more year left and you don't want to be

824
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: a lamed up. You want some security, security, and you

825
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: want the team to realize like, okay, because a lot

826
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: of time the players look like, man, you.

827
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: Only got one year. We ain't listening to you.

828
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: So give him some security, let him let the team

829
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: know that he is in charge. But Mike Thomas, this

830
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: shocked me. And you said it last night that you

831
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: thought the Steelers would allow him to step away from it.

832
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: I didn't see that coming. I did not see that.

833
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: No it.

834
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 6: I mean honestly, the right ones on the wall, the

835
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 6: right one was on the wall, and the fire tom

836
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 6: and stuff. You know, the noise that got louder and louder. Joke,

837
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 6: it got louder and louder. Fans becoming, you know, kind

838
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 6: of dissatisfied with just mediocrity.

839
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 7: That's never been a standard for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

840
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 6: So at some point understanding and the problem is, this

841
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 6: is the problem. When you had been Roethlisberger, you should

842
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 6: have already had someone.

843
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 7: They should have had it in place.

844
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: They Stephen yah green Bay gave you the blueprints. They

845
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: had Red Barr still playing at an elite level. They

846
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers, They get Aaron Rodgers still playing at

847
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: the level to get Jordan Love.

848
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: Now you've got a section plan in place.

849
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: But you wait, well, I don't want to step on

850
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: Red and Bro, you can't worry Abody's being because guess what,

851
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: he's happy.

852
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: Man.

853
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: They ain't draft no quarterback. But out look where you

854
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: let you right? So because you know Ben started to

855
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: get older, you could tell.

856
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: Ben wasn't the same.

857
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you in order to be a head coach

858
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: that and this is I think one of the reasons

859
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: why coaches don't get close to players because at some

860
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: point time, won't Joe, You're gonna have to let your

861
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 1: best player.

862
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: You would have to make very very.

863
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: And so that's why I'm really surprised that that Mike

864
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: Tomlin decided to step away. But like you said, it

865
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: was a situation where the noise it has started to

866
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: get louder and louder. I mean, like really five Mike

867
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: tom Yeah.

868
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: You never heard. I don't think you heard. I mean,

869
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: like I said, I was, we didn't.

870
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: Have twenty four Ben a while of social media, like

871
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: with coach Knowl or coach Coward. I know early on

872
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: when coach Kyle didn't have but Coach Kyle went to

873
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in his third year. Mike Tomlin won

874
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: the Super bowlan in the second year year. Yeah, so

875
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: he's had success and went back again three I think

876
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: three years later, ended up losing to the Packer.

877
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: But since then.

878
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: We talked about it last night, guys, U Joe, Ojo

879
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: and I was talking. Seven straight losses in the playoffs

880
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: tied tied with Marvin Lewis for the longest in NFL history. Look,

881
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: we love Marvin. I was he was a defensive coordinator

882
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: when I was in Baltimore, orchestrated a historic defense. He

883
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: was your head coach. Seven straight losses in NFL history

884
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Speaker 1: as long as the NFL has been going on, that

885
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Speaker 1: ain't a record that's you want to be what you

886
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Speaker 1: want to be a part of. But I like Mike

887
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: Tomlin though for for a number of reasons. First off,

888
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: he's a coaching changer. Yeah you know what I mean

889
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: a little bit.

890
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 10: And not only that, y'all know this because y'all play

891
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 10: the game. But he's gonna get the respect.

892
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, the players, all the players on the team.

893
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: So he walks in instantaneous.

894
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Speaker 10: So wherever he goes or whatever chance he gets, like

895
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Speaker 10: he probably jumped a he'll probably jump hard he had

896
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Speaker 10: a job, but man, they know he'll come change the

897
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Speaker 10: coach or wherever he goes.

898
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Speaker 2: So okay, I'm looking forward to it. But if anything,

899
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Speaker 2: we got a special guest joining us for boys not out. Uh,

900
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Speaker 2: good friend about it.

901
00:40:52,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: I've been knowing this dude, bad.

902
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: Career, he'll develop some.

903
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: I got you, I got we are, Uh, thank you, Jordan.

904
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: You know I've been knowing this dude.

905
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: This dude we used to work out together, run track together,

906
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: go break bread together. So it's always good to see

907
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: if he would go every day once in a while,

908
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: we'll take each other.

909
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: Man.

910
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: You're in Atlanta, y'am be in Atlanta. Let's go break bread.

911
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: So it's good to see you talking about stepping down.

912
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that the Steelers and Mike Tomblan the

913
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Speaker 1: park ways.

914
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised.

915
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Speaker 1: You know he was there for so long, one of

916
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Speaker 1: him and hardball, the two coaches and team two decades.

917
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: And like you said, you want to can coach what

918
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: you got, yes, and if you ain't got it, you

919
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: know sometimes fans won't you have more? And uh, I

920
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: think he got a lot out the team he has.

921
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: They were still missing some offensive pieces. You know, they

922
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: tried to made the playoffs and hey, they man to

923
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: a juggernaut last night. Houston is the best defense in

924
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: the league. So you got a forty year old quarterback. Yeah,

925
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: that's gonna be hard to beat in the young guys,

926
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Speaker 1: it is. But the problem in your right you can

927
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Speaker 1: only coach what you have. But a part of his

928
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: job is to make sure they have. Yes, he's a charge,

929
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Speaker 1: he's the charge of the rocker. He chose to go.

930
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: They get a forty two year old quarterback. I don't

931
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Speaker 1: know what you're thinking. How far forty two year old

932
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Speaker 1: quarterback we're gonna take it, especially in the cold. Most quarterbacks,

933
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Speaker 1: as they start to get aged and they get older,

934
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Speaker 1: they like warm weather.

935
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Speaker 2: They like Miami, they like tampor, they like to be indoors.

936
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Speaker 1: Second of all, when he had an opportunity, I think

937
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: the thing is he allowed his relationship with Ben Roethlisberger

938
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Speaker 1: not to not allow him to draft a successor to Roethlisberger,

939
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Speaker 1: like Green Bay did. They had a successor for Brett Farr,

940
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Speaker 1: they had a successor for Aaron Rodgers.

941
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Speaker 2: You've got to think you got to project down.

942
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: You can't like think Ben Roethlisberger is gonna play there

943
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: for thirty years, and so I think that's what really happened.

944
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Speaker 1: Because the way the NFL is set up now, it

945
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Speaker 1: used to be bring your run game, bring your defense,

946
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Speaker 1: and you could get away with a marginal quarterback. In

947
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: today's NFL, you got to have a stud to play

948
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: that position. If you want to go far, you're gonna

949
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But if you talk about going far,

950
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: winning and challenging for championships without without that piece, it's

951
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Speaker 1: not happening. I heard you and Joe talking earlier. Trey

952
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: Young got traded. I'm surprised, but I think what happened.

953
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: And Joey we talk about this. In his absence, you

954
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: saw Jalen Johnson go to another level, and you're like,

955
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: hold on, this kid Young.

956
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: He's six foot nine.

957
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: He can handle the ball, he can dish out his sis,

958
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: he can rebound, he can score.

959
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: Trey, we love trade, but we're.

960
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: Talking about a guy that's six foot tall that really

961
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: doesn't rebound, that really that doesn't play defense. Yeah, let's

962
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: move in a different direction. Let's see what you get.

963
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: As far as that said, Joe, let's go to you first.

964
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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that they finally moved on from Trade.

965
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 8: Nah, I'm not surprised.

966
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: I thought the rioting was on the wall because they

967
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: played so great when he was in the lineup, and

968
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Speaker 1: then you put the you put the ball in, you

969
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: put the ball in the hands of Jayalen Johnson. I

970
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Speaker 1: didn't know he could play make the way he does,

971
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: Like I told y'all, just told oh, in the month

972
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: of December averages triple double Like that's Radford got sixty

973
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: nine held of the rock. He can score the ball,

974
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: he can make guys around him better, and then the

975
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: guys that surround him they all lock in play defense.

976
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: They gritty, bro, they gritty.

977
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: So I think they kind of showed when Trey was

978
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: absent out of the lineup, and obviously they was they

979
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: was ready to move on from him.

980
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: That's why you don't let nobody get to get your

981
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: father over here.

982
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: And that's why when you bout Billy, they said, when

983
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: you buy Billy, to keep the little minds on it,

984
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: you get your money back exactly. So I guess Atlanta's

985
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: trying to sell Trade get their money back to give

986
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: you somebody else. But they really didn't get much. They

987
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: basically got cj on Anicks firing contract. That seemed like

988
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: the way they wanted to go to have some reneupability

989
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: this offseason. So I mean Trey was the face of

990
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: the franchise. I don't think Atlanta ever forgave them for swapping.

991
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: You had Luca, you to Luca for trade, and I

992
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: think trade was perfect for the city because Atlanta.

993
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: But you look at what Luca doing. Luca.

994
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he didn't want to play defense, though you

995
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: neednt want.

996
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: To play defense.

997
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: But I think Atlanta didn't go to get the pieces

998
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: to fit with trade La, but get the pieces that

999
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: fit with Luca.

1000
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: Correct.

1001
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: But Luca is still a problem to He's sixty six

1002
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: trades five eleven six feet.

1003
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 8: But my thing is both gonna shoot the three.

1004
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: I think Luca maybe get the guys involved more than.

1005
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: Trade, but trade small.

1006
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: So in Washington, hes gonna be okay because they need

1007
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: somebody to bring the fans in. Yes, and then his

1008
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: contrac they're gonna pay him for the next three or

1009
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: four years. He's gonna get his money, yeah, get but

1010
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: they gonna see what he can involved with the team.

1011
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 8: That's gonna be the thing.

1012
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is also Joe is that

1013
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: being a great player on the bad team.

1014
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: They're bad team. Let's get your number.

1015
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna get. You get you in the NBA. Now,

1016
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: guys get their numbers. They getting paid the teams when

1017
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: they pay you, that's thirty four to million. They want

1018
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: to something. Yes, most of time, a lot of these

1019
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: guys get that thirty for the million. They ga't going

1020
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: the other way.

1021
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: Yes, they're not. Really, they're not looking.

1022
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: And you look on really good teams, you can't be

1023
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: paying a whole bunch of guys. You gotta like settle

1024
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: in now Oklahoma City. You saw what they did. They

1025
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: gave Shaye his money, they gave jub his money, they

1026
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: gave his money.

1027
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: At some point in time. You can't pay everybody. Everybody

1028
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: can't build a max contract.

1029
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: So they're gonna start losing some of those auxiliary pieces,

1030
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: kind of like what happened with a Golden State. Yeah,

1031
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: it's the retired and these other guys start going different

1032
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: places and start branching off, so it cuts into your depth.

1033
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: But you look at Atlanta, I still don't think Atlanta.

1034
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: Is a contender, even without even with CJ and Johnson

1035
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: and Dyke Dyce and Daniel and uh at Walker.

1036
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.

1037
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 10: They probably need about another piece or two being as

1038
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 10: far as big another rem protector.

1039
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: Yes, a guy who can move great and pick and

1040
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: roll things in that nature.

1041
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 10: But I think they're on the right trajectory as far

1042
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 10: as you know, where they're trying to go. Ain't gonna

1043
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 10: get there. I don't know, but I like. I like

1044
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 10: the team that they have. Those guys, blue collar workers.

1045
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 10: They got some guys who can score. And like I said,

1046
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 10: big fella Jayalen Johnson. He makes all those guys better

1047
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 10: so that their fun team to watch him.

1048
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: He definitely should be He definitely should be an All Star.

1049
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: He'd be all NBA. Yeah, yeah, all NBA.

1050
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 8: You keep up what he did in December, you got

1051
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 8: a good chance.

1052
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know. He just bring something else to Atlanta.

1053
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: The balls flooring. Hey, guys stand around waiting.

1054
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: The ball.

1055
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 8: Right, So now they're gonna have more team chemistry.

1056
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: And then you get more team chemistry, everybody's gonna be like, Okay,

1057
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: go out and everybody.

1058
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: Every now.

1059
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, So now they gotlant.

1060
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, the fans might be man trading, but

1061
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: they gonna see you like on the floor, that's what

1062
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna see.

1063
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 8: The different Yeah, yeah, yeah, that ball hoppens.

1064
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh well, I know you follow football, so what you

1065
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: think you see the first game on Saturday? You got

1066
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: the Broncos Buffalo, and then you got the forty nine

1067
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: ers who went into Philly and pull the upset. They

1068
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: take on the Seattle Seahawks. The Seahawks beat them the

1069
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: last game of the the last game of the season

1070
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: to take over that division.

1071
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 3: Uh.

1072
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: And then you got.

1073
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: The Patriots take over the Texas. And then you got yeah,

1074
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: and the Broncos and Buffalo.

1075
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: Who you like.

1076
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 8: I don't know, it's gonna be tough.

1077
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying you've seen some of the probably the best

1078
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: football in years guys, you know, going down to the

1079
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: last possession and the defenses.

1080
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know that.

1081
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: I know they want Buffalo to be there, but I

1082
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: know you got to win the game to get there exactly.

1083
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: But I think I'm gonna go with the young dogs.

1084
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Houston, and I think even Seattle

1085
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: is playing great. But I think New England and Buffalo,

1086
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: I probably take New England.

1087
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 8: New England, New England Seattle in the Super Bowl.

1088
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

1089
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: Like I said, I can see that a rematch of

1090
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty nine. Yeah, maybe it'll be a different outcome,

1091
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: baby Tom Brady. Yeah, New England and they got that

1092
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: defensive Seattle. Defensive Seattle.

1093
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1094
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: Man, appreciate you joining us for a problem man, Thanks God,

1095
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: boys not. I appreciate you.

1096
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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: All guys, we're gonna get that money to you.

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00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: No, no, never had one. He o oh so let

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Speaker 2: me go.

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Speaker 1: I'm all collect oh money, I said over this long

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Speaker 1: Oh say you load y'all down, turn the boarder. You

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00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: got you you don't cover.

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Speaker 6: It about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what I'm saying. Appreciate you, old man. Thanks

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00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: you talking about that

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Speaker 11: Assass