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Speaker 5: Brand new season AO.
Speaker 4: Episode eight oh one, Read it Off, Joy Okay.
Speaker 2: Season eight, Episode one, Asleep at Heavensgate air date September fourteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty ten. As the gang returns from Utah, Brook and
Speaker 2: Julian are in an engaged bubble until the police knock
Speaker 2: on Brooks door and that is not sting. The actual
Speaker 2: police show up at brookstore, Hayley learns that she is pregnant,
Speaker 2: Nathan is preparing to leave for training camp, and Katie
Speaker 2: shoots her shot with Clay and Gwyn.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, guys, well, the theme songs back.
Speaker 3: The theme song is back. Also, it made me feel
Speaker 3: a lot of nostalgia to see the opening credits cutting
Speaker 3: from you know the year one high school to now
Speaker 3: was very cute too. I have a question and I
Speaker 3: wrote this in the thing, and I couldn't figure it
Speaker 3: out because when the episode opens and you are doing
Speaker 3: the cool like collage letter with the pictures to Lucas
Speaker 3: and your cute little hat and your hoops, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: months have gone by. Her hair color is different. And
Speaker 3: then I was like, wait, but months can't have gone
Speaker 3: by because we're in a cliffhanger. And then I was like,
Speaker 3: but wait, because we do the flashback when Haley tells
Speaker 3: Nathan she'st but then the next day her hair is different.
Speaker 3: So my question is did was was the plan? Like
Speaker 3: I'm back, I'm out of my depression. I need a
Speaker 3: new do, and like maybe that morning, you know she
Speaker 3: went and got her hair died and then like popped
Speaker 3: by the river court on the way home, was like
Speaker 3: feeling fancy fresh because it is the next day, right,
Speaker 3: It's not like it has to be it has to
Speaker 3: be the next day. Like two days couldn't have gone by.
Speaker 3: You guys would be dead by that, right?
Speaker 4: How many days can claim Quinn realistically?
Speaker 2: For yeah, just lay there. Yeah, here's here's what I
Speaker 2: think it was. I think it was a lot more
Speaker 2: of Joy needs to not be in a depression like
Speaker 2: I had dyed my hair darker in the middle, you know,
Speaker 2: a few seasons prior, because it was a preference of
Speaker 2: my h partner at the time, and did that. Stuck
Speaker 2: with that for a while and was kind of in
Speaker 2: the in the phase of coming out of my personal haze,
Speaker 2: and I really wanted to feel like myself again, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I look like my husband's mother. I'm
Speaker 2: not happy, and I don't I want to feel like me,
Speaker 2: and so I started just making small changes, one of
Speaker 2: which included, hey, I really would like to just go
Speaker 2: back to my semi natural hair color, which is always
Speaker 2: difficult getting that much red out. But we did it,
Speaker 2: and we did I think I just showed up on
Speaker 2: set and I was like, nope, I'm not changing it.
Speaker 2: This is what it is. And I don't know, eight
Speaker 2: seasons in they were like whatever, Joy.
Speaker 3: Good for you, truly, I know the River Court is
Speaker 3: the most beautiful shot and it's very iconic for our show.
Speaker 3: I sort of wish we had seen you writing the
Speaker 3: letter to Lucas like under the you know, the round
Speaker 3: hair dryer at the salon, to be like, oh, like
Speaker 3: it would have actually been so cool to see the
Speaker 3: reveal of the new due the next day, like I'm back.
Speaker 3: But yes, I know our writers, well, our head writer
Speaker 3: was very spiteful and would never have given you that
Speaker 3: much grace. But I like it, and I like it
Speaker 3: for you, and I actually really like it for Haley too.
Speaker 3: So there, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I did too. I was happy
Speaker 2: to see myself a version of myself back. Felt good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so sorry for all of you out there who were confused.
Speaker 2: This is a moment when personal life crossover into acting
Speaker 2: life and it's a TV show.
Speaker 3: You deal with it, you mean almost like after eight
Speaker 3: years we were finally beginning to realize we could be
Speaker 3: our own people.
Speaker 2: Joy shock it. But you lightened your hair too. It
Speaker 2: wasn't as as mine, but you also were lighter and fresher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nice. Also, there really is something when
Speaker 3: you leave set in April and then you have, you know,
Speaker 3: your summer hiatus. I don't know, you live a life
Speaker 3: for two and a half months, you do things, you
Speaker 3: change and then yeah, I mean similarly, I was like this,
Speaker 3: like uh ombre whatever you call it, that was very
Speaker 3: trendy at the time. I was like this was very expensive.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not like box dying it for you guys.
Speaker 3: Buy Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: As a male outsider to your experience on the show, idea.
Speaker 2: You feel like you're on a safari.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I recall at the time, truly was you all had
Speaker 4: so little recourse, like there was your hands were so
Speaker 4: tired that I do remember hair color being like the
Speaker 4: one battle ground that you all had. So I just
Speaker 4: remember it like it was a carousel of hair colors yep,
Speaker 4: changing because it was like.
Speaker 2: Kind of stiles and cuts.
Speaker 4: It was like the one thing that you all could
Speaker 4: control and kind of force a hand on, and so
Speaker 4: it was like the one thing that you would exercise
Speaker 4: because you're like, well, you're shut me down everywhere else,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna mess with my hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. I think we did a lot
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 4: You did a ton of it.
Speaker 2: Isn't that funny?
Speaker 3: I love it for us because when you think about it,
Speaker 3: not to get like too highbrow, but you know, this
Speaker 3: is where my little like brain that read the article
Speaker 3: in like the American Medical Journal kicks in.
Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite parts of your brain.
Speaker 3: Joy will text me sometimes and be like, I know
Speaker 3: you have a fact on this, and I'm like, in fact,
Speaker 3: I do, give me four minutes and I'll find it
Speaker 3: for you and I'll be right back.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But like they talk a lot about how, you know,
Speaker 3: as they've studied certain things that really affect women, particularly
Speaker 3: eating disorders, which we only really talk about with women,
Speaker 3: but also do affect young men.
Speaker 6: I want to be.
Speaker 3: Clear us more so that what they are is they
Speaker 3: are mechanisms of control, and for people who are incredibly
Speaker 3: regimented by outside forces, be it authority, parents, you know,
Speaker 3: an abusive household, whatever. So many women those experiences, coupled
Speaker 3: with the way society pressures us to be good, look
Speaker 3: a certain way and you know, be in servitude all
Speaker 3: the time or whatever. It's why so many young women
Speaker 3: in particular develop eating disorders, because it's the one thing
Speaker 3: in your life you can control. And I think it's
Speaker 3: actually really interesting to see how in a way, hair
Speaker 3: became our rebellion because we also had a boss who,
Speaker 3: in the midst of everything that was creepy about him,
Speaker 3: would make, as we've said a lot on this show,
Speaker 3: a lot of comments about our weight and our bodies,
Speaker 3: and I think for us it was sort of like
Speaker 3: We're not changing a goddamn thing about our bodies for you, sir.
Speaker 3: And I almost wonder if the way that you know,
Speaker 3: whether we were all kind of talking about who was
Speaker 3: going to go what color, or you know, you went
Speaker 3: like I did after season two and went rogue and
Speaker 3: cut bangs and didn't get approval and then almost got
Speaker 3: fired over it. Like I'm actually sort of so proud
Speaker 3: of us that we figured out some version of physical
Speaker 3: rebellion in this mechanism of control, because I think if
Speaker 3: we hadn't, we would have probably been at risk for
Speaker 3: like more of that really sort of sad stuff that
Speaker 3: happens to so many of our peers. And I don't know,
Speaker 3: I remember sometimes like standing on set when the pizza
Speaker 3: would come and just eat, holding my hands like this
Speaker 3: with a piece of pizza and looking at our boss
Speaker 3: and just slowly eating, being like, I dare you to
Speaker 3: say something to me about this? I don't know, we
Speaker 3: really we rebelled.
Speaker 2: It is such an interesting psychological rabbit hole. I would
Speaker 2: like to spend more time going down at some point
Speaker 2: because I know in my life and you guys may
Speaker 2: have felt this way too. But when you feel like
Speaker 2: you're out of control, like you have no ability to
Speaker 2: control the very basic fundamental things in your life. And
Speaker 2: whether that's it's because other people are controlling you or
Speaker 2: because you feel like you can't trust yourself to make
Speaker 2: decisions or whatever, and however that manifests in people's lives,
Speaker 2: the feeling of trying to control then other people and
Speaker 2: trying to control your environment. And then I would find
Speaker 2: myself actually being really really hard on other people, even
Speaker 2: just strangers or customer service or whatever other you know,
Speaker 2: I'd show up on said and if an actor didn't
Speaker 2: know their lines, I would just be so upset. And
Speaker 2: it's not like it's like okay, it's a thing, it's annoying,
Speaker 2: but things that were really easily dismissable or just let
Speaker 2: it roll off your back, I would hold on to
Speaker 2: as the sense of injustice and like it's not okay.
Speaker 2: And I would be so hard on people because I
Speaker 2: was so hard on myself because I was allowing myself
Speaker 2: to be controlled and I didn't have this normal outlet
Speaker 2: of free will and control. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yes? Wait, and you actually just I just had a
Speaker 3: thought because I wonder if it's almost I've had that
Speaker 3: in my own way like when when the environment is
Speaker 3: such a nightmare, any additional pressure feels like popping the balloon,
Speaker 3: you know, Like I went through a thing that you
Speaker 3: know a lot about, and it put me in a
Speaker 3: position where I couldn't stand to be touched by people
Speaker 3: I didn't know, which is a very hard psychological place.
Speaker 2: You love being touched, yes.
Speaker 3: And like literally if someone would grab my arm the
Speaker 3: way I would leap and freak out, like I felt
Speaker 3: like razor wire at the time. And now I look
Speaker 3: back and I go, God, that was so weird and
Speaker 3: so not myself. And I bring it up only because
Speaker 3: you're making me realize. I almost wonder if the mechanism
Speaker 3: of it is I am so taught. It's like you're
Speaker 3: being kind of the image I get is like, you know,
Speaker 3: brave heart on the stretcher, like you're about to split,
Speaker 3: And so any additional pressure is so hard to handle.
Speaker 3: And I almost wonder if maybe the reason that those
Speaker 3: things at that time were so reactive for you was
Speaker 3: because you were like, well, how dare you not follow
Speaker 3: the rule?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: You can't learn your lines? Like this is the basic
Speaker 3: We all have a lot of expectations put on us.
Speaker 3: But it's like you were probably triggered by expectations because
Speaker 3: that the amount of expectations on you were unsustainable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: Wow, two episodes in a row of therapy, guys, I
Speaker 3: missed you.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, if they're a sponsor this week, we've
Speaker 3: truly nailed it.
Speaker 4: I do remember.
Speaker 3: Okay, this will be the last thing I say about it,
Speaker 3: because we're not I.
Speaker 2: Haven't even looked at my notes yet because.
Speaker 3: I haven't either, we don't stoop. But I will say,
Speaker 3: you know, in the world of the internet being assess
Speaker 3: pool like now, I'm starting to see people be like
Speaker 3: if one more if they talk about therapy one more time,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, if you have anybody in your life
Speaker 3: who's not talking about therapy regularly, run so anyway, be
Speaker 3: nice to people, people.
Speaker 4: Great, nice to people.
Speaker 5: People.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 3: Who's not nice to people is Katie.
Speaker 4: But it was just a dream, Sophia. It was just
Speaker 4: a dream.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right. It was just a dream.
Speaker 3: That's what I want to jump in on because the
Speaker 3: relief I felt, even though I knew it was obviously
Speaker 3: a lie. Like I knew it was a ruse in
Speaker 3: the writing, I did not. You didn't know what I forgot.
Speaker 3: My god, the moment, the sort of moment where she
Speaker 3: comes out and is so present with you, because it
Speaker 3: almost seems as though Clay's been having a nightmare. You're
Speaker 3: so shaken up, and Quinn is right there with you,
Speaker 3: and it it felt so tender and almost maternal. And
Speaker 3: I don't mean that in a creepy way, you know,
Speaker 3: but like when a kid wakes up their mom or
Speaker 3: dad is just so present and it was this sweet,
Speaker 3: sweet moment. And my thought, and I wrote this down,
Speaker 3: I said, oh, no, they're really going to take us
Speaker 3: through it, aren't they. Because I didn't remember that you
Speaker 3: were going to be in this sort of and coma
Speaker 3: world together for the whole episode. But that scene at
Speaker 3: night of her running back into the living room with
Speaker 3: you too, really it set me up to know I
Speaker 3: was going to get hurt by this episode. And I thought, Wow,
Speaker 3: you guys did such a beautiful job making something that obviously,
Speaker 3: as actors you knew was a dream sequence feels so real.
Speaker 4: And the more that you sell that first scene, the
Speaker 4: better it sets up the emotional sucker punch when you
Speaker 4: find out because you're like, look at look at how
Speaker 4: great these two are together. Isn't this a beautiful special thing?
Speaker 4: And then the episode is like, gotcha, it may not last.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought all of that stuff played so well, all
Speaker 4: of the sort of coma dream sequence stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved it.
Speaker 4: When we're walking on the beach and Clay has a
Speaker 4: moment of going, wait, there's no one else out here.
Speaker 4: I thought, oh, is this where he starts to piece
Speaker 4: together and then.
Speaker 2: Nope, nope, not yet, not yet, although you sure looked
Speaker 2: real like a real snack rob in that that cream
Speaker 2: colored button up shirt and those jeans, just walking on
Speaker 2: the beach.
Speaker 4: Thank you, but you did.
Speaker 2: But that was I love that moment of there's nobody
Speaker 2: else on the beach, do you know what this means?
Speaker 2: And then we still get to keep playing. I completely
Speaker 2: forgot that this was part of the storyline. I was reminded.
Speaker 2: This was one of the things that my friend I
Speaker 2: was watching this show with was like, oh, but it's
Speaker 2: all a dream sequence, it's not real. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: she said that really early on, so it was along
Speaker 2: for the ride. It's a right I mean, I probably
Speaker 2: would have figured it out eventually.
Speaker 4: Was this Heather who did this Danielle? Danielle in my book? Yes,
Speaker 4: classic Danielle spoiler alert.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad. I'm glad because it was fun watching
Speaker 2: you too finally get all of your romantic moments before
Speaker 2: shit hits the fan. Yeah, it's gonna get real weird.
Speaker 4: In the turn where she spots the blood on her shirt.
Speaker 5: Oh that was good.
Speaker 3: It was really good.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Was it cold? It looked like a cold damn.
Speaker 4: Yes, well it was, yes. I mean listen, there was
Speaker 4: never really like a good warm time in that water.
Speaker 4: It was just sort of bearying shades of cold. And
Speaker 4: I do remember that being quite cold.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys looked like troopers. There was one point
Speaker 3: where it was supposed to be obviously you two in
Speaker 3: the ocean and it's so romantic and you're holding each
Speaker 3: other and you just get hit by such a big wave,
Speaker 3: and I watched you as the gentleman that you are,
Speaker 3: like make sure to hold on to her because obviously
Speaker 3: she's topless and you're trying to protect her body from
Speaker 3: an entire camera crew, and I just so like, she
Speaker 3: buries her face in your neck clearly because she's just
Speaker 3: gotten hit in the face by water and you guys
Speaker 3: are trying so hard to do the romance. And I
Speaker 3: was like, that's when you know you've got a great
Speaker 3: scene partner, because you're like, maybe we're gonna drown, but
Speaker 3: we're going to do it together. And I've got you.
Speaker 3: I won't let you go. I won't let this, you know,
Speaker 3: terribly potentially violating thing happened to you. We're going to
Speaker 3: be okay.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Makes our chemistry so great too, just the two of
Speaker 2: you on camera as Quinn and Clay. The fact that
Speaker 2: your friendship was strong and you were really looking out
Speaker 2: for each other and there was this sense of camaraderie
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. You could really feel it in the scenes,
Speaker 2: and it made Clay and Quinn even more endearing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were good teammates going through all that stuff, man,
Speaker 4: and I do remember yet just being cold and there
Speaker 4: are there are certain things that are like deceptively hard
Speaker 4: in acting. For example, playing dead. I think a non
Speaker 4: actor would think that's going to be the easiest thing, right,
Speaker 4: it's not. It's very hard because all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: as soon as you're supposed to be dead, you need
Speaker 4: to swallow, and your eye wants to twitch, and now
Speaker 4: how do I shallow? But it's like all of these
Speaker 4: things right, And the other one that's very challenging is
Speaker 4: being romantic around crashing water, whether it's a waterfall or
Speaker 4: like like brilliant having to kiss on the sand while
Speaker 4: the water's kind of splashing you because you're trying to
Speaker 4: like create this wonderfully picturesque, beautiful moment, but you are
Speaker 4: also trying to spit out the salt water from your
Speaker 4: mouth and your right eye got sand in it, and
Speaker 4: it's just it's in your underwear. Yeah. Man, So I
Speaker 4: remember us just like doing our best and kind of
Speaker 4: being like did you get it? Did you get it?
Speaker 4: Can we come in now? Ye?
Speaker 3: Can we please be done?
Speaker 2: Be done?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Cut the stock footage of like a dolphin just
Speaker 4: you know, gleefully jumping out of the water, and let's
Speaker 4: move to the next scene already exactly.
Speaker 3: You know what I liked about it is that, in
Speaker 3: an interesting way, it despite it being a dream sequence,
Speaker 3: it allows for this little love bubble that everyone's in
Speaker 3: to keep going. You know, Haley and Nathan talking about
Speaker 3: their pregnancy, this sweet chat the two of you have
Speaker 3: about how he wants a daughter just like you, you know,
Speaker 3: Brooke and Julian in this kind of reflection on the
Speaker 3: step they're about to take and talking about, you know,
Speaker 3: the cadence they've found and their intimacy and what they're building,
Speaker 3: and even her reflecting on this Utah trip and saying,
Speaker 3: you know, watching Jamie and his snow fork, Peyton and
Speaker 3: I used to build those, and it makes her think
Speaker 3: about how lucky they all are to be at this
Speaker 3: place in their life. The reflection everyone's getting to do
Speaker 3: is something that I really love for a kickoff episode
Speaker 3: because all of it feels so personal to each of
Speaker 3: the characters, and in a way, it takes the audience
Speaker 3: back too, and it reminds you of how far all
Speaker 3: these people have come. And then everyone's worlds obviously start
Speaker 3: to go a bit to shit. You guys have been shot, broken,
Speaker 3: it's arrested. It's like just kidding you guys got nine
Speaker 3: minutes of excitement and now we're back at it.
Speaker 4: I had zero recollection of this whole storyline for Brooks,
Speaker 4: so when the police came to the door, I kept
Speaker 4: being like, wait, is this a joke? Wait, she's actually
Speaker 4: getting booked. Wait what is happening? That whole storyline came
Speaker 4: out of left field in a big way for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so confusing, and you really don't see
Speaker 3: it coming off the off the grease lightning morning.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you that your makeup in that scene
Speaker 4: looked incredible?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thanks, so good, so good. I liked that.
Speaker 2: I loved that sentence. But I like even the beginning,
Speaker 2: when you guys are laying in bed. I was watching.
Speaker 2: I was watching, and then I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed, like you the intimacy, but like you guys
Speaker 2: were so good, so convincing, so close. I kind of
Speaker 2: looked away, like I don't this is my friend. I
Speaker 2: don't want to watch her, like I feel like a voyeur.
Speaker 2: This is I'm so cotable by the.
Speaker 3: Way, even I I thought to myself watching it, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'm I'm finally starting to feel comfortable
Speaker 3: in my self as a woman, like at this time
Speaker 3: in my life in a new way. Like so much
Speaker 3: of it, especially because Brooke as a young woman was
Speaker 3: like this super over sexualized character. Everything was so performative
Speaker 3: for so long. And I was watching that scene and
Speaker 3: I was like oh this is like, this is more
Speaker 3: like a scene on an HBO show.
Speaker 2: It is, I know, the intimacy of weird. Even the
Speaker 2: hand on a hand on your leg. It wasn't like
Speaker 2: really racy, it was just intimate. It was like beautifully intimate,
Speaker 2: and I felt like I shouldn't be watching this. This
Speaker 2: is a private note.
Speaker 3: I kind of loved it. I was like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is nice. It's not so sticky like it used to be.
Speaker 3: And I think the writing was so simple and good
Speaker 3: that it enabled us to bring like all this other
Speaker 3: energy into it. And I liked the intimacy that then
Speaker 3: led into this joke. You know, this sort of okay, fine,
Speaker 3: he's got this fantasy, let's do this. And you know
Speaker 3: it's like the little bra and panty set and the
Speaker 3: pink lady jacket so cute, and you walking in in
Speaker 3: the middle of that god just like and the only
Speaker 3: thing I had to hide my body was the counter.
Speaker 4: And then the goal, Oh fruit, dude, And the way
Speaker 4: that you scream I'm pregnant, don't be mad as you
Speaker 4: run out the door over your shoulder was so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that scene was great, man. It was a way the
Speaker 4: moment of you realizing it though, is perfect joy you
Speaker 4: play that. It's so believable and funny.
Speaker 3: It's awesome, and especially on the heels of Nathan cracking
Speaker 3: the sex jokes about Quinn and Clay and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, no, no, no, no, no no, And
Speaker 3: then you go to Brook and Julian's and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, no, no, no, no, no no, it
Speaker 3: just keeps going for you.
Speaker 2: I'm just still having it. In real life. It was
Speaker 2: just all just too much.
Speaker 3: It was too much, and the irony that the sort
Speaker 3: of couplet or I guess the triplet of it is
Speaker 3: like Clay, Quinn, Brooke, Julian and you're like, I'm actually
Speaker 3: the one that's pregnant. I'm leaving.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's so funny, so cute. And then this whole
Speaker 2: storyline of Jamie like meeting explained to him what sex is, and.
Speaker 3: Basketballs and eggs, the rabbit.
Speaker 2: It's just so funny.
Speaker 3: Rabbits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was terrific, Lady sex rabbit.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, god, the writers really they hit a
Speaker 3: home run with that.
Speaker 2: And then oh my mom has one of those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh boy.
Speaker 4: Nathan using Jamie as basically a piece of workout equipment.
Speaker 2: Was so my first note, it's so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gets fun watching him really sort of level up
Speaker 4: his dadding. Yeah, and just to see him have such
Speaker 4: an interest in his kid, in involving him, you know,
Speaker 4: in so many things. It's just it's really nice to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to Brook because this shop, this
Speaker 2: whole shop thing, is it really full me off? Oh God,
Speaker 2: I forgetting arrested and all this stuff with Victoria and
Speaker 2: all of the I mean, I was really really surprised.
Speaker 4: Same. Now, let me ask a question, because again I'm
Speaker 4: coming at this having not seen seasons one through six.
Speaker 4: My reaction was, this made no sense because it always
Speaker 4: seemed to me that Victoria was very on top of things.
Speaker 4: So I felt myself going, I don't I'm confused at
Speaker 4: why she would let something so risky and egregious go down.
Speaker 2: But Alexander under was like her kryptonite, Like she's she
Speaker 2: wants to keep working with him. The whole thing was
Speaker 2: for the men's line, and if Alexander, if they didn't
Speaker 2: have the money for it, she wouldn't have been able
Speaker 2: to keep him around. So I'm guessing I'm guessing that's
Speaker 2: where it's going.
Speaker 4: She risked her daughter's empire for the thunder down under.
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Well, you know the way I sort of see it too,
Speaker 3: especially because so many people in you know, versions of
Speaker 3: power positions that are artists go through either financial mismanagement
Speaker 3: or financial abuse. I think it happens more easily than
Speaker 3: we all think. And what I appreciated about it and
Speaker 3: what we set up, you know, just for you in
Speaker 3: seasons five and six when we've skipped college, is that
Speaker 3: Brooke is the designer mogul, but Victoria is the CEO.
Speaker 3: She is the financial half of the company, and they
Speaker 3: have this whole thing where, you know, Victoria talks about
Speaker 3: how she's the one who spins the straw into gold,
Speaker 3: and eventually we get to the point where it's like, no,
Speaker 3: Brooks ideas are the gold and you're the one who
Speaker 3: manages the business, and she apologizes, YadA YadA. It's lovely.
Speaker 3: I can't remember what happened before and after season seven starting,
Speaker 3: so forgive me for what you already know there. But
Speaker 3: what I think is sort of genius about the way
Speaker 3: they did this with the Millie and Victoria and Brook
Speaker 3: of it all is you realize how someone can be
Speaker 3: the creative but they're not the executor, so they don't
Speaker 3: know about the ones and zeros of the business. And
Speaker 3: then you've got Millie, who, you know, Victoria points out,
Speaker 3: got promoted in a way maybe she shouldn't have, but
Speaker 3: who's also very good at her job. And as they're
Speaker 3: in this kind of hen fight like cats in a bag,
Speaker 3: screaming at each other in the store, which I thought
Speaker 3: was great, Such a great scene, such a great scene
Speaker 3: because everyone's just yelling at everyone else and Brooke wants
Speaker 3: to know what happened. Yeah, you can kind of see
Speaker 3: the humanity in it. And I do think it's like
Speaker 3: a little bit of an Icarus story, right, you fly
Speaker 3: a little too close to the sun. The business has
Speaker 3: been so successful and has always worked that Victoria thinks, well,
Speaker 3: we might not have it now, but the men's line
Speaker 3: will be huge and will earn it so fast no
Speaker 3: one will ever know. And there's a recession, and that's
Speaker 3: not what happened, and the numbers they fudged have been caught.
Speaker 3: And everything that you might do if you get a
Speaker 3: little too high on your own supply or a little
Speaker 3: too greedy, or maybe just a little too used to
Speaker 3: succeeding and you get a little lazy. It can all
Speaker 3: go up and smoke, and I kind of love it,
Speaker 3: and I agree with you Joy while I'm still talking. Sorry,
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of thoughts I'm having. No, I
Speaker 3: agree with you on the Alexander element, but I also
Speaker 3: like the he's not central to the story because you
Speaker 3: do you do realize that.
Speaker 2: This was just it was a bad business decision. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like a small moment of a lapse at integrity
Speaker 2: that you know. I think we all in different ways
Speaker 2: in our life, Like you know, it's like the white
Speaker 2: lie thing, like, oh, it's just a little thing. What
Speaker 2: difference does it make. It's fine, it's just a I'm
Speaker 2: canceling a reservation. But they don't need to know that
Speaker 2: I'm not really sick, but they're going to charge me
Speaker 2: if I don't tell them I'm sick. You know, It's
Speaker 2: like these little things that go on through day to
Speaker 2: day life and we can think nothing of it. But
Speaker 2: it's a lapse in integrity, and especially when it's done
Speaker 2: an environment where someone is like Victoria, so used to success,
Speaker 2: so used to things going really well. It's all working,
Speaker 2: it's like I can fudge a number here and there,
Speaker 2: I can do a couple of little things. It's it's fine,
Speaker 2: it's all going to work out. It's not going to
Speaker 2: be a big deal. Like there's a personal vigil that
Speaker 2: I think we're all so susceptible too if we don't
Speaker 2: stay on top of it. And this is what happened
Speaker 2: in Victoria. I think, I think I haven't seen what's
Speaker 2: happening next. But that's what it looks like.
Speaker 3: It's very good.
Speaker 4: I was. I think I was just confused because it
Speaker 4: went on for so long before we actually found out
Speaker 4: what happened. Yeah, Like it was odd that when they
Speaker 4: got to the store, Victoria wasn't like, here's this guinea,
Speaker 4: here's what happened, you know it. It was this thing
Speaker 4: where she wasn't quite saying anything, and then Millie wasn't
Speaker 4: quite saying anything, and Brooke is still standing there. Brooke
Speaker 4: was like the voice of the audience, going what the
Speaker 4: hell is happening because it's like by this point, I've
Speaker 4: seen her get arrested and you know, and then we've
Speaker 4: seen her drive home like she's telling me, Julian, I'm
Speaker 4: just going, okay, fine, but what happened like that. I
Speaker 4: think that was where there was so long where I
Speaker 4: was just left going, huh that by the time we
Speaker 4: finally found out, it was like why it doesn't matter,
Speaker 4: But it was just it was a long time before
Speaker 4: we actually got to what happened. Where Victoria traditionally is
Speaker 4: someone who wastes no time getting to the crux of
Speaker 4: the conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I also think perhaps Victoria is not being
Speaker 3: honest because she really is convinced we're flying a lawyer
Speaker 3: in and we're going to solve It's going.
Speaker 2: To be fine. It's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally not that big of a do. I can
Speaker 3: see in my head Victoria having a moment going, you know,
Speaker 3: when they're trying to raise money for the Men's line, going, well,
Speaker 3: it's only the climate of this economy, the fact that
Speaker 3: people won't give us what we're worth eight years ago,
Speaker 3: I could have raised this money in two days. Like
Speaker 3: she has all this sort of stuff built up under her. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that'll tell her it's going to continue to be this good.
Speaker 3: We're going to continue to succeed in this way. And
Speaker 3: I think the hard lesson when you've been successful is
Speaker 3: like there's never a guarantee. You really don't know. And
Speaker 3: what I sort of loved actually was that the face
Speaker 3: off took so long, and they started yelling about who's
Speaker 3: sleeping with who, and who's unqualified for this and sizes
Speaker 3: and age I mean, zero is a size, by the way,
Speaker 3: fifty is an age, by the way, dead like so funny,
Speaker 3: And so I liked that they were spinning out so
Speaker 3: that Brooke couldn't get an answer, because it made me
Speaker 3: feel more frustrated and more afraid and a little more desperate.
Speaker 3: And I liked being brought there as a viewer, let
Speaker 3: alone as a person who was in the scene, because
Speaker 3: there was so much of it that I didn't remember either.
Speaker 2: Do you know what's going to happen? Do you remember
Speaker 2: what happens?
Speaker 4: I do? Do you join?
Speaker 2: I do not know.
Speaker 3: I remember a lot of it. I will say, because
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a spoiler, but don't be
Speaker 3: a Danielle.
Speaker 2: Don't be a spoilers bar.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be a spoiler. I'm just going
Speaker 3: to say I think that Brooke telling Julian you know
Speaker 3: she's got some bucks squirreled away, and he says, oh,
Speaker 3: you're the rich Brook Davis when they're beginning their wedding
Speaker 3: planning journey is unfortunately timed. One thing I do want
Speaker 3: to say that just feels important to acknowledge because sometimes
Speaker 3: I know our show makes people feel seen, and sometimes
Speaker 3: I know our show makes people feel harmed. I understand
Speaker 3: the comedy the writers were going for in Brooke coming
Speaker 3: in and explaining her experience in the jail, and I'm
Speaker 3: very much still saddened and was saddened in twenty ten
Speaker 3: by the nature of the cheap shot of it. I
Speaker 3: think that our writers, for whatever reason, really thought that
Speaker 3: transphobia or being transphobic in adjacency was cool. This isn't
Speaker 3: the first time they've done it. And I lost a
Speaker 3: battle on this, and for me, it just brought back
Speaker 3: like a lot of memories about what it felt like
Speaker 3: to fight and then be told you know, you're overreacting,
Speaker 3: and this, that and the other, and you know, now
Speaker 3: I've got a friend literally arguing a case to defend
Speaker 3: people in front of the Supreme Court this week. So
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just there isn't really like a
Speaker 3: way to make it better for anybody that I know
Speaker 3: you're talking about. Yeah, but I just want people to
Speaker 3: know that they're seen. For me as an actor, you know,
Speaker 3: being sort of stuck in a space where it's like
Speaker 3: you're not a writer, you're not a producer, you don't
Speaker 3: get to change the dialogue. What I really had to
Speaker 3: commit to in that was the physical violation of my
Speaker 3: character because they wouldn't let me change that dialogue that
Speaker 3: was describing someone in that way. But it did. It
Speaker 3: was this weird thing because I was like, I know,
Speaker 3: this happens to people who go into these caarceral environments
Speaker 3: and they are violated in ways that are really hard
Speaker 3: and awful. And then there's also this part of it
Speaker 3: that feels like a cheap shot, and so I don't know.
Speaker 3: For me, I just had to say, like, what can
Speaker 3: I commit to here? What does feel true? And like, yeah,
Speaker 3: as a woman having to have a cavity search by
Speaker 3: a stranger, it feels pretty horrific, no matter who that
Speaker 3: stranger is. And so I don't know. I I still
Speaker 3: hate it. And for anybody who watched the scene and
Speaker 3: hated it, I see you. I love you, and that's
Speaker 3: that It's great. So that's I love that about you.
Speaker 3: I love your willingness to just dive into something uncomfortable
Speaker 3: and like even if it's fifteen years ago or however
Speaker 3: long what year, twenty fifteen years ago, and still just
Speaker 3: acknowledge that and open it up. Thanks, You're right, that
Speaker 3: was it was such a cheap shot. There was totally unnecessary.
Speaker 3: There's so many things in our show that we talked.
Speaker 4: And necessary is the word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, necessary, necessary, Like there's so many other ways to
Speaker 2: write comedy. There's so many other funny things in life,
Speaker 2: in the world, in that scenario, in that situation, Like,
Speaker 2: there's just so many other ways to do it, and
Speaker 2: it sucks that you were put in that position and
Speaker 2: had to lose that battle. And very cool of you
Speaker 2: to mention it now and mentor and make it better.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, I think we all had to do
Speaker 3: a lot of that. I mean we talked about it
Speaker 3: even in the season seven finale, like what Chantelle had
Speaker 3: to go through in her own physical body, like for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, with all the women, there was a lot
Speaker 3: of like cheap shot writing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Can't like change it, but I am very grateful that
Speaker 3: we get to acknowledge those things and be present and
Speaker 3: talk about it even now because it sticks with you
Speaker 3: in some way or another.
Speaker 4: You know well, and like Joyce said, you know there
Speaker 4: is something you can do, and you just did it.
Speaker 4: You know, you acknowledged it, you brought it to light,
Speaker 4: you shared how you feel about it and what you
Speaker 4: know doesn't sit right with you. And I think that's
Speaker 4: that is that is what you can do. You just
Speaker 4: did it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let me ask a question.
Speaker 4: Did you When Brooke and Julian were talking about the
Speaker 4: wedding and Julian confesses that he has been planning his
Speaker 4: dream wedding since he was nine years old, I had
Speaker 4: two immediate reactions. My first was, oh, that's funny, and
Speaker 4: then I immediately was like, oh, is this another attempt
Speaker 4: at like emasculating one of our leading men. Yes, and
Speaker 4: of course it was right.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I thought it was.
Speaker 2: I thought he was joking at first because it just
Speaker 2: seemed so ridiculous masculine.
Speaker 4: We have the flowers in the It wasn't even just
Speaker 4: like a venue. It was like this type of flower
Speaker 4: and a pineapple upside down cake or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: What it's so stupid?
Speaker 4: It was odd.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I will say, Austin, you know, is such a trooper,
Speaker 3: such a good team player, and yeah, he really leaned
Speaker 3: into it, and for all of the reasons that had
Speaker 3: nothing to do with, you know, good writing or good
Speaker 3: story content that the person in charge of our show
Speaker 3: didn't want like a bunch of really he didn't want
Speaker 3: any more like young, hot, talented actors like Austin, rob
Speaker 3: and James to like be on set, which is, you
Speaker 3: know whatever. It is. The way he had to essentially
Speaker 3: turn Julian into someone who was a bit of a
Speaker 3: joke and had no friends so that he could have
Speaker 3: a seven year old be his eventual best man is
Speaker 3: a choice, I guess, but I really admire that Austin
Speaker 3: leaned in and he was like he was like, honestly,
Speaker 3: I loved Greece too, and I was like same. It
Speaker 3: was literally my favorite movie in middle school. What are
Speaker 3: you talking about? Me and my best friends Betsy and
Speaker 3: Janice used to like literally do the choreo in my
Speaker 3: living room at home, like after school. We loved it,
Speaker 3: and so we giggled and we were like, if this
Speaker 3: is what we're doing, let's do it and make it funny.
Speaker 3: And in an interesting way, what I got watching it
Speaker 3: from today was him committing so hard in that scene
Speaker 3: enabled me to really lean into, you know, the more
Speaker 3: masculine energy of the couple in bed, like he absorbed
Speaker 3: the feminine energy of the wedding in that scene. So
Speaker 3: I kind of got to be the dude that was
Speaker 3: like okay, baby cakes and like in my glasses with
Speaker 3: like my little notebook, and the whole thing actually is
Speaker 3: really funny, and we have such a good chemistry together
Speaker 3: as you know, friends and performers, that even though it's
Speaker 3: a completely stupid storyline, I really enjoy watching it.
Speaker 2: I do too. Yeah, I love about Austin Is as
Speaker 2: an actor. He's trust himself so much, and he treats
Speaker 2: like he understands his own presence and he's not intimidated
Speaker 2: by writing or offended or worried or there were so
Speaker 2: many things that we would see come in and I
Speaker 2: would change lines all the time, and I'm for various reasons.
Speaker 2: I was afraid it didn't fit with the character. I
Speaker 2: was a little worried it might make me joy personally
Speaker 2: look kind of strange if I was saying this line,
Speaker 2: or like, who knows all these young things that we
Speaker 2: did when we were young. I really remember observing and
Speaker 2: learning from Austin the way that he would say at
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the time he would say exactly
Speaker 2: what was on the page in terms of I mean,
Speaker 2: you worked with them a lot more than I did,
Speaker 2: so maybe that's it was that your experience also.
Speaker 3: You know, it's absolutely true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt that a lot with him, that he
Speaker 2: would just take what was on the page and say exactly,
Speaker 2: verbatim what those words were, and he always made it work. Yes,
Speaker 2: And I always thought I had to jump in and
Speaker 2: fix things, control issues, right, but like I to be
Speaker 2: able to watch an actor who was super, super capable,
Speaker 2: he just trusted himself and he was like, yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: just say the lines. That's fine, it'll work out.
Speaker 3: I really like that observation, and particularly when you think
Speaker 3: about the kind of pedigree that Austin came from mean
Speaker 3: and his longest running prior series being John from Cincinnati
Speaker 3: on HBO written by David Milch, having worked on Deadwood,
Speaker 3: like he came and treated our show, which I think
Speaker 3: we all, you know, carried a little bit of insecurity,
Speaker 3: maybe a little chip on our shoulder. We felt like
Speaker 3: we got made fun of a lot, and we were
Speaker 3: mad about it, and Austin treated our teen soap opera
Speaker 3: the same way he treated like an award not you know,
Speaker 3: an award worthy show on HBO. And it was very
Speaker 3: inspiring to watch. And yeah, it's it's definitely a testament
Speaker 3: to him as an actor. For sure.
Speaker 2: I'm excited about the Brook and Julian wedding.
Speaker 3: I am too, I am too. It's so cute. But
Speaker 3: that actually you saying that in that way, joy makes
Speaker 3: me have a question for you, Rob, because you and
Speaker 3: Chantala and this whole sequence are you're in this dream
Speaker 3: space right Like you know that you're having to do
Speaker 3: this very weird thing as an actor when you show
Speaker 3: up set and you know that it can't dawn on
Speaker 3: your characters until you say this, no one's on the beach.
Speaker 3: Do you know what that means? You give away something
Speaker 3: being wrong? She meets you there and then you know
Speaker 3: you have a gag about like party party, How did
Speaker 3: you guys in particularly for you as you know, another
Speaker 3: man who really commits to what's on the page, who's
Speaker 3: sitting with us today, Like, how did you wrap your
Speaker 3: head around this episode for yourself? How do you begin
Speaker 3: to put yourself in a space where you're like Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm in the world of a coma and I'm going
Speaker 3: to do X or did you have to kind of
Speaker 3: not think about that and just treat it like it
Speaker 3: was any other scene so you didn't like pressure yourself.
Speaker 4: No, it was super simple because Clay didn't know he
Speaker 4: was in a coma, So it wouldn't have been right
Speaker 4: for me to be playing any sort of inclination or
Speaker 4: playing any different because to Clay, he's having a really
Speaker 4: nice lazy day on the beach with Quinn.
Speaker 3: Right, He's just having the best day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So to me, it was just a a relaxed,
Speaker 4: guard down, grounded, romantic, flirty, fun day. And uh because
Speaker 4: also you know, there's there is that one misdirect moment
Speaker 4: about know IM being on the beach, which is fun
Speaker 4: for the audience, but that's obviously just clayy and cheeky.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But then because I think the more you lean into
Speaker 4: that sort of just like grounded, sincere nature of it,
Speaker 4: it helps the turn that much more.
Speaker 3: Yes, I like that, I really really like that.
Speaker 4: I'm with you. Joy. I find when I get material
Speaker 4: like I especially especially on like like like movies of
Speaker 4: the Week and stuff, I will I will I go
Speaker 4: in and I like, really kind of retool the dialogue.
Speaker 4: But one thing I have noticed about myself is I
Speaker 4: will oftentimes retool it to the point of realizing that
Speaker 4: the original line is actually the one that does happen,
Speaker 4: and I'll have a good laugh going like, okay, mister Rider,
Speaker 4: you got all the way back to the original text.
Speaker 4: There we go. But it's that control issue of like
Speaker 4: I can make this better, I can make it fit
Speaker 4: my mouth, my speech batter, and the of the day,
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, maybe the writer. Because there was a
Speaker 4: character I was playing on Chesapeake Shores and they were
Speaker 4: writing him in a certain way where like occasionally he
Speaker 4: kind of sounded like a robot, and so I was
Speaker 4: trying to finesse it occasionally until one episode where I went,
Speaker 4: I'm just going to say these words exactly how they're written,
Speaker 4: And when I did it, I realized it actually made
Speaker 4: the guy sound like he there was a little like
Speaker 4: there was a little something going on, like he wasn't
Speaker 4: quite socially dialed in, and I realized, oh, they were
Speaker 4: actually intending for it, Like there was a line where
Speaker 4: he was just not reading the room at all and
Speaker 4: interrupting a conversation to focus on one person. In my head,
Speaker 4: I'm like, who does this? What adult would do this?
Speaker 4: And it's like this, this character does it. Rob wouldn't,
Speaker 4: but the character you're being paid to portray would, so
Speaker 4: say the lines dumb, dumb.
Speaker 3: I love that. I actually think that's a really cool
Speaker 3: exercise as an artist too, because in a way what
Speaker 3: I said sort of envision in that full circle, you know,
Speaker 3: back to the point of origin. Thing that you're describing
Speaker 3: is you're doing the work to actually identify what of
Speaker 3: your own stuff you instinctually want to carry into this experience,
Speaker 3: and then you process through your own bullshit, and then
Speaker 3: you get back and you go, none of that is
Speaker 3: actually for the character, and now I know who the
Speaker 3: character is. You have to do that kind of work
Speaker 3: on yourself as an actor.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, subconsciously you're just going to go ahead and bring
Speaker 2: in all your yees, yeah, conceive notions. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it's the same way that there will be a
Speaker 4: scene and there'll be a line where you're like, the
Speaker 4: characters will say like, I'm just so devastated, and as
Speaker 4: the actor will be like, can you just trust my
Speaker 4: face to convey that I need to do the same
Speaker 4: thing for the writer, like I need to trust that
Speaker 4: they know what they're doing and they wrote this as
Speaker 4: concisely and specifically and eloquently as possible. There's there's an
Speaker 4: element of like not feeling protected, or maybe it's a
Speaker 4: control thing. Whatever, we're getting too inside baseball, let's talk
Speaker 4: about Alice Whitehead and her call and Chase, her boyfriend
Speaker 4: twelve hours after asking him to go out on their
Speaker 4: first date.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have such a love hate relationship with this character,
Speaker 2: Like she really wins my heart so many times, and
Speaker 2: then she does things that make me so mad at her,
Speaker 2: which is great. It's a credit to Janna, but good.
Speaker 4: Lord, it's one thing to be possessive with Chase and hey, boyfriend.
Speaker 4: Here's the part I didn't get because like that I
Speaker 4: can listen alex Is, she's a bit manic. Like we've
Speaker 4: covered this right, She's a she's hig highs and lo lo,
Speaker 4: She's all over the place. She's a bit of a
Speaker 4: soup sandwich, some might say. But the part I didn't
Speaker 4: get was the hostility towards Mia.
Speaker 2: So strange, that's what I'm saying the whole episode. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just sand flirty or whatever. But then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden just to go out of her way to
Speaker 2: give me a what's the for? It's so dumb?
Speaker 3: Do you think, though, that that is because Chase is
Speaker 3: honest with her and says Mia texted me and thinks,
Speaker 3: you know, there's something whatever he says. I actually, of
Speaker 3: course didn't write that part down because my observation was
Speaker 3: this is lazy writing and especially creepy since Brooke dated
Speaker 3: Chase in high school and Brooks High School lion was
Speaker 3: hi friend, Hi boyfriend, So why is Alex saying hi boyfriend? Like,
Speaker 3: wouldn't that creep you out if a girl you started
Speaker 3: dating in your twenties said exactly the thing that your
Speaker 3: high school sweetheart used to say to you, Like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I would feel like I was maybe being stalked.
Speaker 3: So that was the thing I was a little hyper
Speaker 3: focused on, and I realized I didn't say take great
Speaker 3: notes for this scene, but I I wrote down. I said,
Speaker 3: Alex challenging me a overbearing question mark also kind of
Speaker 3: awesome because their energy in the scene is so good.
Speaker 3: I just was having fun watching my friends be great actors.
Speaker 3: But yeah, do you think it's because of the text message?
Speaker 3: And she feels threatened. Do you think it's because Alex
Speaker 3: do Pray is the kind of girl who always wants
Speaker 3: to win? What do we think? Or do you think
Speaker 3: she's doing it because she might be under the impression
Speaker 3: that Mia only wants Chase back because she knows that
Speaker 3: Chase is now with Alex. I have obviously more questions
Speaker 3: than I realized I did.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's the latter, because there is no
Speaker 4: Chase in Alex yet. They haven't even gone on the date.
Speaker 3: I know, But you know, maybe she's under the impression
Speaker 3: that Mia heard some big to do happened in Park City.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: This just seems like potstirring, like unnecessary pot stirring.
Speaker 4: That's exactly if we had seen, like even just one
Speaker 4: date and they really had great chemistry, it would be different, right,
Speaker 4: But because absolutely nothing has happened, it just makes it
Speaker 4: seem like it's an ego thing for Alex. Because there's
Speaker 4: this moment right when shout out to Stephen Colettie, who
Speaker 4: learned how to twirl glasses and mixers like a pro.
Speaker 4: That was awesome. When he's showing Alice White had these
Speaker 4: moves and she drops her cups there's a moment where
Speaker 4: MIA's watching and then Mia turns to walk away, and
Speaker 4: as Alice picks up the shakers, she sees that Mia
Speaker 4: was watching and there is a prolonged close up on
Speaker 4: her face. And I was dying to know what the
Speaker 4: note was to her, Like I didn't know what she
Speaker 4: was playing, like if she was happy, Mia saar, she
Speaker 4: was conflicted. But because the camera stayed there so long,
Speaker 4: I couldn't figure out what message we were sending.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was clearly they were trying to send a message.
Speaker 2: If you leave a camera on something that long, you're
Speaker 2: trying to say something like hammering at home. So what
Speaker 2: was the message. There's a part of me that it
Speaker 2: is happy that I'm getting a boy that somebody else wants.
Speaker 2: It just seems so hammy. It for sure was a
Speaker 2: note like somebody told Jana, here's what we need you.
Speaker 2: There's the face that we need you to make for
Speaker 2: this shot. Because it didn't for me, it didn't correlate
Speaker 2: with her character at that moment either. It's just so strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the impression, which maybe does track rob
Speaker 3: to your point that this might be an ego thing
Speaker 3: for Alex. I got the impression that's seeing that Mia
Speaker 3: was coming in and then chose to walk out. She
Speaker 3: watched it and then turned around and celebrated it like
Speaker 3: she had that little smile to herself and then went
Speaker 3: back to Chase. But again, it does feel I feel
Speaker 3: like I wish they'd saved these bits for ADO two
Speaker 3: and had had them go on a date in aightoh
Speaker 3: one that then would cause the tension, because the tension
Speaker 3: works if it is motivated by something.
Speaker 2: It it's been a day, right, So now it.
Speaker 3: Just almost feels like it's too it's too much competition,
Speaker 3: too soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if we're making it about Alex's ego, there's
Speaker 4: very little to root for, yes, you know, Whereas if
Speaker 4: she was actually going to bat for Chase and something
Speaker 4: some promise, some potential, it would be different. But if
Speaker 4: it's just going to be a pissing match, it's hard
Speaker 4: to sort of rally behind that, you know. I So
Speaker 4: there's when joy when you are when Haley's talking with
Speaker 4: Mia in the Red Bedroom Records thing, there's a really
Speaker 4: funny moment where I think she says something effectively, you're
Speaker 4: so smart you can figure it all out or something,
Speaker 4: and you go, yeah, just don't ask me to explain
Speaker 4: how babies are made. And then with your hands you
Speaker 4: do to boodoom, you do a rim shot. Do you
Speaker 4: remember if that was scripted or that was just you
Speaker 4: realizing your surroundings.
Speaker 3: That was so funny.
Speaker 4: And then as you exit the scene you have a
Speaker 4: savage line, but it's a hilarious throwaway line where you're
Speaker 4: walking out as Chase is walking in and you just
Speaker 4: casually say, Alex's gross.
Speaker 2: Pick me a uh huh wait, I didn't even hear that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a run on word.
Speaker 4: They don't even like shoot your face, it's just you
Speaker 4: over your shoulder casually. They just stay on Chase the
Speaker 4: whole time. But it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: It's so funny, it's real funny.
Speaker 2: That's great. I do like the Chase and Mia and
Speaker 2: Mia and Grubs. I mean, did me and Grubs ever
Speaker 2: get together? Is that what's coming up? Or they're just
Speaker 2: friends so.
Speaker 4: Far they're just friends. It seemed they were doing a
Speaker 4: mouth miss Lauren thing though, where it was like is.
Speaker 2: This yes, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Was it fair of Mia to ask Chase if you
Speaker 4: had slept with Alex?
Speaker 2: I think I don't think so. I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: you can ask anything, it doesn't have to be answered.
Speaker 4: But that's true.
Speaker 3: I don't know that feels rooted in ego to me too.
Speaker 3: You know, this idea that someone thinks that when your
Speaker 3: relationship ends, they have the right to know anything about
Speaker 3: your romantic life is so strange.
Speaker 2: If she's trying to get over him, if it was like,
Speaker 2: just tell me that you guys slept together, and then
Speaker 2: I can start really wrapping my brain around you being
Speaker 2: with another person. But you know, but she's the one
Speaker 2: that broke up with him. Yeah, you broke up with him, big,
Speaker 2: come on, like, get over it.
Speaker 4: And I love that chase. He actually kind of he
Speaker 4: put in her place and he was like, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: broke up with me over text. You asked for me
Speaker 4: back over text. She asked me out in person.
Speaker 3: I loved that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Perfect, that's a perfect answer.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we got a listener question here. Oh, Madison
Speaker 4: May asks there are some great cars in the show,
Speaker 4: like Peyton's comment or even Julian's truck in season eight.
Speaker 4: If you had to pick one of the character's cars
Speaker 4: to drive in real life, which one would you choose?
Speaker 2: I mean, that comment's great, but it's a boat that
Speaker 2: thing's going to be hard to park. What was did
Speaker 2: Clay have a Porsche? Was the green car? That was dry?
Speaker 3: Clay had that beautiful vintage Corvete. That's about Stingray that
Speaker 3: I was going to say that would be my pick,
Speaker 3: and then I thought, yeah, but how often does that
Speaker 3: thing break down? Like Julian's truck might actually be the
Speaker 3: most practical vintage car we had on our show.
Speaker 2: I remember though, what color was it? What it look like?
Speaker 3: Silver? Your car was that beautiful like gun metal silver
Speaker 3: with the red interior. I know all the I know
Speaker 3: all the old cars. How was it to drive?
Speaker 4: It was fast? It was great. I was going to
Speaker 4: say I would go Julian's truck because that car was
Speaker 4: it was tight.
Speaker 2: What color was the truck?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: The truck was black? Yeah, it was a black truck,
Speaker 3: big black pickup truck.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, that's a great car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that would be my practical pick.
Speaker 2: You rob you two?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? The whatever sting Ray is that what it
Speaker 4: was called? So yeah my car? Yeah, it's it was beautiful,
Speaker 4: but I mean like it was small. We broke the
Speaker 4: glove box handles like it was you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: it's more of antique.
Speaker 2: He was like a green in my mind. It's like
Speaker 2: a forest green in my mind.
Speaker 4: No, it was it was metal silver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I believe you. That's strange. Okaytable honorable mentions
Speaker 2: seous my notes here. I mean, did Grubbs sing in
Speaker 2: this or was it the last one that he's sang it?
Speaker 3: He did, he wrote that last song for the album
Speaker 3: and then he put uh. I loved the shot. This
Speaker 3: might actually be my honorable mention just as a technical
Speaker 3: the shot of him leaving the recording studio and you
Speaker 3: can see a blurry piece of paper in the foreground
Speaker 3: and then they rack and it's Tour one London. I
Speaker 3: was like, ooh, that's that's very nice. I liked I
Speaker 3: liked the decision. I liked the way they did it.
Speaker 3: It was it was a beautiful little moment.
Speaker 4: I would say my honorable mention is when Nathan has
Speaker 4: the option to either give It's Nathan Haley sitting on
Speaker 4: the couch and Haley's like, do you want to go
Speaker 4: give him the talk? And Nathan says, or I could
Speaker 4: just play. I could give him the new Gears of
Speaker 4: War video game. I'm gonna do that, which I laughed.
Speaker 4: Because as a nerd gamer, I happen to know that
Speaker 4: is one of the most violent games where it's like
Speaker 4: you're either shooting people or sawing that. I mean, they're
Speaker 4: like monsters, Like yeah, like big guys, but like you're
Speaker 4: literally chainsawing bad guys in half. And I just laughed, going,
Speaker 4: I love that he avoided having a potentially uncomfortable conversation
Speaker 4: with his son and instead exposed him to massive.
Speaker 2: Violence after he's already looked at poorn on the internet.
Speaker 2: So we're just doing great as parents. It's really excellent.
Speaker 4: Dad of the year.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, well, my I guess my honorable mention will
Speaker 2: also be for Nathan and Haley, but it's more about
Speaker 2: just where their relationship's at right now. This is like
Speaker 2: top quality marriage material when you watch test partners who
Speaker 2: were just showing up for each other and encouraging each
Speaker 2: other and holding on holding space the way Nathan. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess if I had to give it to one,
Speaker 2: I would say to Nathan for the way he's been
Speaker 2: taking care of Haley and handling this whole situation was
Speaker 2: really really excellent. So yeah, I'm just this is top
Speaker 2: form Nathan and Haley for me right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely agree. It's fun. It's really fun to watch
Speaker 3: you guys in this, and I like I like seeing
Speaker 3: two parents who go, oh my god, we thought we'd
Speaker 3: be good at this. We have no idea what we're doing.
Speaker 3: How do we buy some time?
Speaker 2: Like it's really so real, like twenty five years old?
Speaker 2: This is how old they're supposed to be. Twenty five
Speaker 2: I think James actually maybe was. But when you think
Speaker 2: about it now, in our forties, really, what what were
Speaker 2: we doing? I would not have had that maturity. I
Speaker 2: didn't know. I didn't at twenty five.
Speaker 3: Everybody nailed it, honestly.
Speaker 2: Spinning a wheel. We didn't even spin a wheel in
Speaker 2: the last episode, Guys, we didn't.
Speaker 3: We got so caught up.
Speaker 4: Okay, we have to make this one doubly good.
Speaker 3: Most likely too, Oh, this is unfair on our show.
Speaker 4: Most likely to win a karaoke competition.
Speaker 3: I mean half of our cast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of musical talent, come on, you grubs.
Speaker 2: Kate Tyler, Janna, every musician that has come in on
Speaker 2: the show, I mean, how many bands that came in? Yeah, Jana,
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, good grief. Hillary's got a great singing voice. Too.
Speaker 2: I don't know's what what are we gonna do? We're
Speaker 2: going to have a battle of the one Tree Hill voices?
Speaker 2: I don't know, guys, And it depends on the song.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's got a different genre that they're good at.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm going to give my Karaoke Award
Speaker 2: to like Lee Norris, because I just think he would.
Speaker 2: We would all be taking it too seriously and trying
Speaker 2: to like really perform, and he would just get up
Speaker 2: there and crush it. And actually, Rob, you probably would too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I am tone deaf, but I pour my heart
Speaker 4: and soul into every performance.
Speaker 2: Okay, then you're getting my karaoke vote.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm co signing with Joy.
Speaker 2: It's Rob.
Speaker 3: It's in the spirit of the performance.
Speaker 4: Yes, that means the world to me. Guys, Thank you
Speaker 4: and thank you for listening. Listen.
Speaker 3: Thank you all so much. We will see you next
Speaker 3: week for season eight, episode two.
Speaker 2: I can't see you, but I know you're there.
Speaker 3: Oh boy. Maybe if it's because we're all gonna finally
Speaker 3: discover that Clay and Quinn have been shot. We really
Speaker 3: have left you, guys hanging. It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: So so much. Also the shot that they come back
Speaker 2: to of you on the floor after Nathan leaves your
Speaker 2: house and it's you guys on the floor and the
Speaker 2: blood on the door has not dried yet. And it's
Speaker 2: been a day.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean nighttime, So okay, it should be dried.
Speaker 4: It should be dry.
Speaker 2: It's fine, you know what. I don't need to say it.
Speaker 2: Why do I need to say it? It's fine. Everybody's
Speaker 2: doing a great job. Everyone's doing great. Why do I
Speaker 2: need to point out the tiny little This is where
Speaker 2: I need my friends. You guys have to jump in
Speaker 2: and be like, Joy, doesn't worry about it, doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: You're doing it again, Joy, You're doing it sor right.
Speaker 3: So well, guys, that's sort of what our podcast is.
Speaker 3: Next week, we're going to do it again all over
Speaker 3: again by you all.
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for listening.
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