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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama Girl, all about.

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Speaker 2: Them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride.

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Speaker 2: And our comic girl Cheering for the Righteen Drama Queens.

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Speaker 1: Girl, You could sit with us Girl Drama, Queens Drama,

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Speaker 1: Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens Drama Queens.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 4: Everyone, We're back with a.

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Speaker 5: Brand new season AO.

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Speaker 4: Episode eight oh one, Read it Off, Joy Okay.

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Speaker 2: Season eight, Episode one, Asleep at Heavensgate air date September fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: twenty ten. As the gang returns from Utah, Brook and

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Speaker 2: Julian are in an engaged bubble until the police knock

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Speaker 2: Nathan is preparing to leave for training camp, and Katie

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Speaker 2: shoots her shot with Clay and Gwyn.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, guys, well, the theme songs back.

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Speaker 3: The theme song is back. Also, it made me feel

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Speaker 3: a lot of nostalgia to see the opening credits cutting

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Speaker 3: from you know the year one high school to now

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Speaker 3: was very cute too. I have a question and I

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Speaker 3: So my question is did was was the plan? Like

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Speaker 3: You guys would be dead by that, right?

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Speaker 4: How many days can claim Quinn realistically?

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Speaker 2: For yeah, just lay there. Yeah, here's here's what I

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Speaker 2: of Joy needs to not be in a depression like

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Speaker 2: I had dyed my hair darker in the middle, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I look like my husband's mother. I'm

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Speaker 2: and so I started just making small changes, one of

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Speaker 2: which included, hey, I really would like to just go

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Speaker 2: set and I was like, nope, I'm not changing it.

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Speaker 2: This is what it is. And I don't know, eight

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Speaker 3: Good for you, truly, I know the River Court is

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Speaker 3: I sort of wish we had seen you writing the

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I did too. I was happy

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Speaker 2: This is a moment when personal life crossover into acting

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Speaker 3: You deal with it, you mean almost like after eight

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Speaker 2: Joy shock it. But you lightened your hair too. It

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Speaker 3: We all have a lot of expectations put on us.

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Speaker 3: But it's like you were probably triggered by expectations because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the drama Queen's Therapy Corner sponsored by Betterhelp.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, if they're a sponsor this week, we've

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Speaker 2: Nope, nope, not yet, not yet, although you sure looked

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Speaker 4: Was this Heather who did this Danielle? Danielle in my book? Yes,

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Speaker 2: But I'm glad. I'm glad because it was fun watching

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Speaker 4: In the turn where she spots the blood on her shirt.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were good teammates going through all that stuff, man,

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Speaker 4: it's just it's in your underwear. Yeah. Man, So I

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Speaker 3: Can we please be done?

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Speaker 2: Be done?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Cut the stock footage of like a dolphin just

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Speaker 3: to keep going. You know, Haley and Nathan talking about

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Speaker 4: I had zero recollection of this whole storyline for Brooks,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so confusing, and you really don't see

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thanks, so good, so good. I liked that.

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Speaker 2: It is, I know, the intimacy of weird. Even the

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Speaker 3: I kind of loved it. I was like, oh, this

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Speaker 3: it's like the little bra and panty set and the

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Speaker 4: And then the goal, Oh fruit, dude, And the way

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Speaker 4: that you scream I'm pregnant, don't be mad as you

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Speaker 4: that scene was great, man. It was a way the

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Speaker 3: It's awesome, and especially on the heels of Nathan cracking

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Speaker 2: I'm just still having it. In real life. It was

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Speaker 3: It was too much, and the irony that the sort

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Speaker 3: like Clay, Quinn, Brooke, Julian and you're like, I'm actually

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's so funny, so cute. And then this whole

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Speaker 3: Basketballs and eggs, the rabbit.

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Speaker 2: It's just so funny.

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Speaker 3: Rabbits.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, god, the writers really they hit a

442
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 3: home run with that.

443
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: And then oh my mom has one of those.

444
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh boy.

445
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 4: Nathan using Jamie as basically a piece of workout equipment.

446
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: Was so my first note, it's so good.

447
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, gets fun watching him really sort of level up

448
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: his dadding. Yeah, and just to see him have such

449
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 4: an interest in his kid, in involving him, you know,

450
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 4: in so many things. It's just it's really nice to see.

451
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to Brook because this shop, this

452
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: whole shop thing, is it really full me off? Oh God,

453
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 2: I forgetting arrested and all this stuff with Victoria and

454
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: all of the I mean, I was really really surprised.

455
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: Same. Now, let me ask a question, because again I'm

456
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: coming at this having not seen seasons one through six.

457
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 4: My reaction was, this made no sense because it always

458
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: seemed to me that Victoria was very on top of things.

459
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 4: So I felt myself going, I don't I'm confused at

460
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 4: why she would let something so risky and egregious go down.

461
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 2: But Alexander under was like her kryptonite, Like she's she

462
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: wants to keep working with him. The whole thing was

463
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: for the men's line, and if Alexander, if they didn't

464
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: have the money for it, she wouldn't have been able

465
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: to keep him around. So I'm guessing I'm guessing that's

466
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: where it's going.

467
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: She risked her daughter's empire for the thunder down under.

468
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's what happened.

469
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 3: Well, you know the way I sort of see it too,

470
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: especially because so many people in you know, versions of

471
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 3: power positions that are artists go through either financial mismanagement

472
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: or financial abuse. I think it happens more easily than

473
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 3: we all think. And what I appreciated about it and

474
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: what we set up, you know, just for you in

475
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 3: seasons five and six when we've skipped college, is that

476
00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 3: Brooke is the designer mogul, but Victoria is the CEO.

477
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: She is the financial half of the company, and they

478
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: have this whole thing where, you know, Victoria talks about

479
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: how she's the one who spins the straw into gold,

480
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: and eventually we get to the point where it's like, no,

481
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: Brooks ideas are the gold and you're the one who

482
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: manages the business, and she apologizes, YadA YadA. It's lovely.

483
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: I can't remember what happened before and after season seven starting,

484
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: so forgive me for what you already know there. But

485
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: what I think is sort of genius about the way

486
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: they did this with the Millie and Victoria and Brook

487
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: of it all is you realize how someone can be

488
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: the creative but they're not the executor, so they don't

489
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 3: know about the ones and zeros of the business. And

490
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 3: then you've got Millie, who, you know, Victoria points out,

491
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: got promoted in a way maybe she shouldn't have, but

492
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 3: who's also very good at her job. And as they're

493
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: in this kind of hen fight like cats in a bag,

494
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: screaming at each other in the store, which I thought

495
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: was great, Such a great scene, such a great scene

496
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: because everyone's just yelling at everyone else and Brooke wants

497
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: to know what happened. Yeah, you can kind of see

498
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: the humanity in it. And I do think it's like

499
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of an Icarus story, right, you fly

500
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: a little too close to the sun. The business has

501
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: been so successful and has always worked that Victoria thinks, well,

502
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 3: we might not have it now, but the men's line

503
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: will be huge and will earn it so fast no

504
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: one will ever know. And there's a recession, and that's

505
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: not what happened, and the numbers they fudged have been caught.

506
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 3: And everything that you might do if you get a

507
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: little too high on your own supply or a little

508
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 3: too greedy, or maybe just a little too used to

509
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: succeeding and you get a little lazy. It can all

510
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: go up and smoke, and I kind of love it,

511
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: and I agree with you Joy while I'm still talking. Sorry,

512
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of thoughts I'm having. No, I

513
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: agree with you on the Alexander element, but I also

514
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: like the he's not central to the story because you

515
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: do you do realize that.

516
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: This was just it was a bad business decision. Yeah,

517
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: it's like a small moment of a lapse at integrity

518
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: that you know. I think we all in different ways

519
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: in our life, Like you know, it's like the white

520
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: lie thing, like, oh, it's just a little thing. What

521
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: difference does it make. It's fine, it's just a I'm

522
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: canceling a reservation. But they don't need to know that

523
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: I'm not really sick, but they're going to charge me

524
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: if I don't tell them I'm sick. You know, It's

525
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: like these little things that go on through day to

526
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: day life and we can think nothing of it. But

527
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: it's a lapse in integrity, and especially when it's done

528
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: an environment where someone is like Victoria, so used to success,

529
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: so used to things going really well. It's all working,

530
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: it's like I can fudge a number here and there,

531
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: I can do a couple of little things. It's it's fine,

532
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: it's all going to work out. It's not going to

533
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: be a big deal. Like there's a personal vigil that

534
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: I think we're all so susceptible too if we don't

535
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: stay on top of it. And this is what happened

536
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: in Victoria. I think, I think I haven't seen what's

537
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: happening next. But that's what it looks like.

538
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: It's very good.

539
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: I was. I think I was just confused because it

540
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 4: went on for so long before we actually found out

541
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 4: what happened. Yeah, Like it was odd that when they

542
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 4: got to the store, Victoria wasn't like, here's this guinea,

543
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 4: here's what happened, you know it. It was this thing

544
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: where she wasn't quite saying anything, and then Millie wasn't

545
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: quite saying anything, and Brooke is still standing there. Brooke

546
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: was like the voice of the audience, going what the

547
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: hell is happening because it's like by this point, I've

548
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: seen her get arrested and you know, and then we've

549
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: seen her drive home like she's telling me, Julian, I'm

550
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 4: just going, okay, fine, but what happened like that. I

551
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: think that was where there was so long where I

552
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: was just left going, huh that by the time we

553
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 4: finally found out, it was like why it doesn't matter,

554
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: But it was just it was a long time before

555
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: we actually got to what happened. Where Victoria traditionally is

556
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: someone who wastes no time getting to the crux of

557
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 4: the conversation.

558
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I also think perhaps Victoria is not being

559
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: honest because she really is convinced we're flying a lawyer

560
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: in and we're going to solve It's going.

561
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: To be fine. It's not that big of a deal.

562
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally not that big of a do. I can

563
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: see in my head Victoria having a moment going, you know,

564
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: when they're trying to raise money for the Men's line, going, well,

565
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: it's only the climate of this economy, the fact that

566
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: people won't give us what we're worth eight years ago,

567
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: I could have raised this money in two days. Like

568
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: she has all this sort of stuff built up under her. Yeah,

569
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: that'll tell her it's going to continue to be this good.

570
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 3: We're going to continue to succeed in this way. And

571
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: I think the hard lesson when you've been successful is

572
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: like there's never a guarantee. You really don't know. And

573
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: what I sort of loved actually was that the face

574
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: off took so long, and they started yelling about who's

575
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: sleeping with who, and who's unqualified for this and sizes

576
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: and age I mean, zero is a size, by the way,

577
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: fifty is an age, by the way, dead like so funny,

578
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: And so I liked that they were spinning out so

579
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: that Brooke couldn't get an answer, because it made me

580
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: feel more frustrated and more afraid and a little more desperate.

581
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: And I liked being brought there as a viewer, let

582
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: alone as a person who was in the scene, because

583
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: there was so much of it that I didn't remember either.

584
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: Do you know what's going to happen? Do you remember

585
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: what happens?

586
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: I do? Do you join?

587
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: I do not know.

588
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: I remember a lot of it. I will say, because

589
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a spoiler, but don't be

590
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: a Danielle.

591
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: Don't be a spoilers bar.

592
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be a spoiler. I'm just going

593
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: to say I think that Brooke telling Julian you know

594
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: she's got some bucks squirreled away, and he says, oh,

595
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: you're the rich Brook Davis when they're beginning their wedding

596
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: planning journey is unfortunately timed. One thing I do want

597
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: to say that just feels important to acknowledge because sometimes

598
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: I know our show makes people feel seen, and sometimes

599
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: I know our show makes people feel harmed. I understand

600
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: the comedy the writers were going for in Brooke coming

601
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: in and explaining her experience in the jail, and I'm

602
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: very much still saddened and was saddened in twenty ten

603
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: by the nature of the cheap shot of it. I

604
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: think that our writers, for whatever reason, really thought that

605
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: transphobia or being transphobic in adjacency was cool. This isn't

606
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: the first time they've done it. And I lost a

607
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: battle on this, and for me, it just brought back

608
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: like a lot of memories about what it felt like

609
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: to fight and then be told you know, you're overreacting,

610
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: and this, that and the other, and you know, now

611
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: I've got a friend literally arguing a case to defend

612
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: people in front of the Supreme Court this week. So

613
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just there isn't really like a

614
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: way to make it better for anybody that I know

615
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: you're talking about. Yeah, but I just want people to

616
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,239
Speaker 3: know that they're seen. For me as an actor, you know,

617
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: being sort of stuck in a space where it's like

618
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: you're not a writer, you're not a producer, you don't

619
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: get to change the dialogue. What I really had to

620
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: commit to in that was the physical violation of my

621
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: character because they wouldn't let me change that dialogue that

622
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 3: was describing someone in that way. But it did. It

623
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: was this weird thing because I was like, I know,

624
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: this happens to people who go into these caarceral environments

625
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: and they are violated in ways that are really hard

626
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: and awful. And then there's also this part of it

627
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: that feels like a cheap shot, and so I don't know.

628
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: For me, I just had to say, like, what can

629
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: I commit to here? What does feel true? And like, yeah,

630
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 3: as a woman having to have a cavity search by

631
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: a stranger, it feels pretty horrific, no matter who that

632
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: stranger is. And so I don't know. I I still

633
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: hate it. And for anybody who watched the scene and

634
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: hated it, I see you. I love you, and that's

635
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: that It's great. So that's I love that about you.

636
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: I love your willingness to just dive into something uncomfortable

637
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: and like even if it's fifteen years ago or however

638
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: long what year, twenty fifteen years ago, and still just

639
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: acknowledge that and open it up. Thanks, You're right, that

640
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: was it was such a cheap shot. There was totally unnecessary.

641
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: There's so many things in our show that we talked.

642
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: And necessary is the word.

643
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, necessary, necessary, Like there's so many other ways to

644
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: write comedy. There's so many other funny things in life,

645
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: in the world, in that scenario, in that situation, Like,

646
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: there's just so many other ways to do it, and

647
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: it sucks that you were put in that position and

648
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: had to lose that battle. And very cool of you

649
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: to mention it now and mentor and make it better.

650
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: It's awesome.

651
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, I think we all had to do

652
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: a lot of that. I mean we talked about it

653
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: even in the season seven finale, like what Chantelle had

654
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: to go through in her own physical body, like for

655
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: whatever reason, with all the women, there was a lot

656
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: of like cheap shot writing.

657
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, we.

658
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: Can't like change it, but I am very grateful that

659
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: we get to acknowledge those things and be present and

660
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: talk about it even now because it sticks with you

661
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: in some way or another.

662
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: You know well, and like Joyce said, you know there

663
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: is something you can do, and you just did it.

664
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 4: You know, you acknowledged it, you brought it to light,

665
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: you shared how you feel about it and what you

666
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: know doesn't sit right with you. And I think that's

667
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: that is that is what you can do. You just

668
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 4: did it.

669
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

670
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, let me ask a question.

671
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: Did you When Brooke and Julian were talking about the

672
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: wedding and Julian confesses that he has been planning his

673
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 4: dream wedding since he was nine years old, I had

674
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 4: two immediate reactions. My first was, oh, that's funny, and

675
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 4: then I immediately was like, oh, is this another attempt

676
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 4: at like emasculating one of our leading men. Yes, and

677
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: of course it was right.

678
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I thought it was.

679
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: I thought he was joking at first because it just

680
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: seemed so ridiculous masculine.

681
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 4: We have the flowers in the It wasn't even just

682
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 4: like a venue. It was like this type of flower

683
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: and a pineapple upside down cake or whatever it was.

684
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 3: What it's so stupid?

685
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 4: It was odd.

686
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

687
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

688
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: I will say, Austin, you know, is such a trooper,

689
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: such a good team player, and yeah, he really leaned

690
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 3: into it, and for all of the reasons that had

691
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: nothing to do with, you know, good writing or good

692
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: story content that the person in charge of our show

693
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: didn't want like a bunch of really he didn't want

694
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: any more like young, hot, talented actors like Austin, rob

695
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: and James to like be on set, which is, you

696
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: know whatever. It is. The way he had to essentially

697
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: turn Julian into someone who was a bit of a

698
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: joke and had no friends so that he could have

699
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: a seven year old be his eventual best man is

700
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: a choice, I guess, but I really admire that Austin

701
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: leaned in and he was like he was like, honestly,

702
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: I loved Greece too, and I was like same. It

703
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: was literally my favorite movie in middle school. What are

704
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: you talking about? Me and my best friends Betsy and

705
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: Janice used to like literally do the choreo in my

706
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: living room at home, like after school. We loved it,

707
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: and so we giggled and we were like, if this

708
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 3: is what we're doing, let's do it and make it funny.

709
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: And in an interesting way, what I got watching it

710
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: from today was him committing so hard in that scene

711
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: enabled me to really lean into, you know, the more

712
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: masculine energy of the couple in bed, like he absorbed

713
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: the feminine energy of the wedding in that scene. So

714
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: I kind of got to be the dude that was

715
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: like okay, baby cakes and like in my glasses with

716
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 3: like my little notebook, and the whole thing actually is

717
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: really funny, and we have such a good chemistry together

718
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: as you know, friends and performers, that even though it's

719
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: a completely stupid storyline, I really enjoy watching it.

720
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: I do too. Yeah, I love about Austin Is as

721
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: an actor. He's trust himself so much, and he treats

722
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: like he understands his own presence and he's not intimidated

723
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: by writing or offended or worried or there were so

724
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: many things that we would see come in and I

725
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: would change lines all the time, and I'm for various reasons.

726
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: I was afraid it didn't fit with the character. I

727
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: was a little worried it might make me joy personally

728
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: look kind of strange if I was saying this line,

729
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: or like, who knows all these young things that we

730
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: did when we were young. I really remember observing and

731
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: learning from Austin the way that he would say at

732
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the time he would say exactly

733
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: what was on the page in terms of I mean,

734
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: you worked with them a lot more than I did,

735
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: so maybe that's it was that your experience also.

736
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's absolutely true.

737
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt that a lot with him, that he

738
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: would just take what was on the page and say exactly,

739
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: verbatim what those words were, and he always made it work. Yes,

740
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: And I always thought I had to jump in and

741
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: fix things, control issues, right, but like I to be

742
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: able to watch an actor who was super, super capable,

743
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: he just trusted himself and he was like, yeah, I'll

744
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: just say the lines. That's fine, it'll work out.

745
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: I really like that observation, and particularly when you think

746
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: about the kind of pedigree that Austin came from mean

747
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: and his longest running prior series being John from Cincinnati

748
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: on HBO written by David Milch, having worked on Deadwood,

749
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: like he came and treated our show, which I think

750
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: we all, you know, carried a little bit of insecurity,

751
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: maybe a little chip on our shoulder. We felt like

752
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: we got made fun of a lot, and we were

753
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: mad about it, and Austin treated our teen soap opera

754
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: the same way he treated like an award not you know,

755
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: an award worthy show on HBO. And it was very

756
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: inspiring to watch. And yeah, it's it's definitely a testament

757
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: to him as an actor. For sure.

758
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm excited about the Brook and Julian wedding.

759
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: I am too, I am too. It's so cute. But

760
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: that actually you saying that in that way, joy makes

761
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: me have a question for you, Rob, because you and

762
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: Chantala and this whole sequence are you're in this dream

763
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: space right Like you know that you're having to do

764
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: this very weird thing as an actor when you show

765
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: up set and you know that it can't dawn on

766
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 3: your characters until you say this, no one's on the beach.

767
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: Do you know what that means? You give away something

768
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: being wrong? She meets you there and then you know

769
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: you have a gag about like party party, How did

770
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: you guys in particularly for you as you know, another

771
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 3: man who really commits to what's on the page, who's

772
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: sitting with us today, Like, how did you wrap your

773
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: head around this episode for yourself? How do you begin

774
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 3: to put yourself in a space where you're like Okay,

775
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 3: I'm in the world of a coma and I'm going

776
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: to do X or did you have to kind of

777
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: not think about that and just treat it like it

778
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 3: was any other scene so you didn't like pressure yourself.

779
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 4: No, it was super simple because Clay didn't know he

780
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: was in a coma, So it wouldn't have been right

781
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: for me to be playing any sort of inclination or

782
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: playing any different because to Clay, he's having a really

783
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 4: nice lazy day on the beach with Quinn.

784
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: Right, He's just having the best day.

785
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, So to me, it was just a a relaxed,

786
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: guard down, grounded, romantic, flirty, fun day. And uh because

787
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: also you know, there's there is that one misdirect moment

788
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 4: about know IM being on the beach, which is fun

789
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 4: for the audience, but that's obviously just clayy and cheeky.

790
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

791
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 4: But then because I think the more you lean into

792
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: that sort of just like grounded, sincere nature of it,

793
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: it helps the turn that much more.

794
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I like that, I really really like that.

795
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 4: I'm with you. Joy. I find when I get material

796
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: like I especially especially on like like like movies of

797
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: the Week and stuff, I will I will I go

798
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 4: in and I like, really kind of retool the dialogue.

799
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 4: But one thing I have noticed about myself is I

800
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 4: will oftentimes retool it to the point of realizing that

801
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: the original line is actually the one that does happen,

802
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: and I'll have a good laugh going like, okay, mister Rider,

803
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: you got all the way back to the original text.

804
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: There we go. But it's that control issue of like

805
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 4: I can make this better, I can make it fit

806
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 4: my mouth, my speech batter, and the of the day,

807
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, maybe the writer. Because there was a

808
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 4: character I was playing on Chesapeake Shores and they were

809
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: writing him in a certain way where like occasionally he

810
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: kind of sounded like a robot, and so I was

811
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: trying to finesse it occasionally until one episode where I went,

812
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 4: I'm just going to say these words exactly how they're written,

813
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 4: And when I did it, I realized it actually made

814
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: the guy sound like he there was a little like

815
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: there was a little something going on, like he wasn't

816
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 4: quite socially dialed in, and I realized, oh, they were

817
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: actually intending for it, Like there was a line where

818
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 4: he was just not reading the room at all and

819
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 4: interrupting a conversation to focus on one person. In my head,

820
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, who does this? What adult would do this?

821
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: And it's like this, this character does it. Rob wouldn't,

822
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: but the character you're being paid to portray would, so

823
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 4: say the lines dumb, dumb.

824
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: I love that. I actually think that's a really cool

825
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: exercise as an artist too, because in a way what

826
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: I said sort of envision in that full circle, you know,

827
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: back to the point of origin. Thing that you're describing

828
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: is you're doing the work to actually identify what of

829
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: your own stuff you instinctually want to carry into this experience,

830
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: and then you process through your own bullshit, and then

831
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: you get back and you go, none of that is

832
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: actually for the character, and now I know who the

833
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: character is. You have to do that kind of work

834
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 3: on yourself as an actor.

835
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: Otherwise, subconsciously you're just going to go ahead and bring

836
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: in all your yees, yeah, conceive notions. Yeah.

837
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 4: And it's the same way that there will be a

838
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 4: scene and there'll be a line where you're like, the

839
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: characters will say like, I'm just so devastated, and as

840
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: the actor will be like, can you just trust my

841
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: face to convey that I need to do the same

842
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: thing for the writer, like I need to trust that

843
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: they know what they're doing and they wrote this as

844
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: concisely and specifically and eloquently as possible. There's there's an

845
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: element of like not feeling protected, or maybe it's a

846
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: control thing. Whatever, we're getting too inside baseball, let's talk

847
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: about Alice Whitehead and her call and Chase, her boyfriend

848
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 4: twelve hours after asking him to go out on their

849
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: first date.

850
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

851
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: I have such a love hate relationship with this character,

852
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: Like she really wins my heart so many times, and

853
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: then she does things that make me so mad at her,

854
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: which is great. It's a credit to Janna, but good.

855
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 4: Lord, it's one thing to be possessive with Chase and hey, boyfriend.

856
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: Here's the part I didn't get because like that I

857
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: can listen alex Is, she's a bit manic. Like we've

858
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 4: covered this right, She's a she's hig highs and lo lo,

859
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: She's all over the place. She's a bit of a

860
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 4: soup sandwich, some might say. But the part I didn't

861
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 4: get was the hostility towards Mia.

862
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: So strange, that's what I'm saying the whole episode. Yeah,

863
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: it's just sand flirty or whatever. But then all of

864
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: a sudden just to go out of her way to

865
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: give me a what's the for? It's so dumb?

866
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: Do you think, though, that that is because Chase is

867
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: honest with her and says Mia texted me and thinks,

868
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: you know, there's something whatever he says. I actually, of

869
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: course didn't write that part down because my observation was

870
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: this is lazy writing and especially creepy since Brooke dated

871
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: Chase in high school and Brooks High School lion was

872
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: hi friend, Hi boyfriend, So why is Alex saying hi boyfriend? Like,

873
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't that creep you out if a girl you started

874
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: dating in your twenties said exactly the thing that your

875
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: high school sweetheart used to say to you, Like, I

876
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: don't know, I would feel like I was maybe being stalked.

877
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: So that was the thing I was a little hyper

878
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: focused on, and I realized I didn't say take great

879
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: notes for this scene, but I I wrote down. I said,

880
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: Alex challenging me a overbearing question mark also kind of

881
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: awesome because their energy in the scene is so good.

882
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: I just was having fun watching my friends be great actors.

883
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, do you think it's because of the text message?

884
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: And she feels threatened. Do you think it's because Alex

885
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: do Pray is the kind of girl who always wants

886
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 3: to win? What do we think? Or do you think

887
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: she's doing it because she might be under the impression

888
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: that Mia only wants Chase back because she knows that

889
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: Chase is now with Alex. I have obviously more questions

890
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: than I realized I did.

891
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: I don't think it's the latter, because there is no

892
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 4: Chase in Alex yet. They haven't even gone on the date.

893
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: I know, But you know, maybe she's under the impression

894
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: that Mia heard some big to do happened in Park City.

895
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: I don't know.

896
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: This just seems like potstirring, like unnecessary pot stirring.

897
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 4: That's exactly if we had seen, like even just one

898
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: date and they really had great chemistry, it would be different, right,

899
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: But because absolutely nothing has happened, it just makes it

900
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: seem like it's an ego thing for Alex. Because there's

901
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: this moment right when shout out to Stephen Colettie, who

902
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: learned how to twirl glasses and mixers like a pro.

903
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: That was awesome. When he's showing Alice White had these

904
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: moves and she drops her cups there's a moment where

905
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: MIA's watching and then Mia turns to walk away, and

906
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 4: as Alice picks up the shakers, she sees that Mia

907
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 4: was watching and there is a prolonged close up on

908
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: her face. And I was dying to know what the

909
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 4: note was to her, Like I didn't know what she

910
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: was playing, like if she was happy, Mia saar, she

911
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 4: was conflicted. But because the camera stayed there so long,

912
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 4: I couldn't figure out what message we were sending.

913
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was clearly they were trying to send a message.

914
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: If you leave a camera on something that long, you're

915
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: trying to say something like hammering at home. So what

916
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: was the message. There's a part of me that it

917
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: is happy that I'm getting a boy that somebody else wants.

918
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: It just seems so hammy. It for sure was a

919
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: note like somebody told Jana, here's what we need you.

920
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: There's the face that we need you to make for

921
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: this shot. Because it didn't for me, it didn't correlate

922
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: with her character at that moment either. It's just so strange.

923
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the impression, which maybe does track rob

924
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: to your point that this might be an ego thing

925
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: for Alex. I got the impression that's seeing that Mia

926
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: was coming in and then chose to walk out. She

927
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 3: watched it and then turned around and celebrated it like

928
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: she had that little smile to herself and then went

929
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: back to Chase. But again, it does feel I feel

930
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: like I wish they'd saved these bits for ADO two

931
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 3: and had had them go on a date in aightoh

932
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 3: one that then would cause the tension, because the tension

933
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: works if it is motivated by something.

934
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: It it's been a day, right, So now it.

935
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: Just almost feels like it's too it's too much competition,

936
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: too soon.

937
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if we're making it about Alex's ego, there's

938
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: very little to root for, yes, you know, Whereas if

939
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: she was actually going to bat for Chase and something

940
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: some promise, some potential, it would be different. But if

941
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 4: it's just going to be a pissing match, it's hard

942
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 4: to sort of rally behind that, you know. I So

943
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 4: there's when joy when you are when Haley's talking with

944
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: Mia in the Red Bedroom Records thing, there's a really

945
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: funny moment where I think she says something effectively, you're

946
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 4: so smart you can figure it all out or something,

947
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: and you go, yeah, just don't ask me to explain

948
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: how babies are made. And then with your hands you

949
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 4: do to boodoom, you do a rim shot. Do you

950
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 4: remember if that was scripted or that was just you

951
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 4: realizing your surroundings.

952
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: That was so funny.

953
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: And then as you exit the scene you have a

954
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 4: savage line, but it's a hilarious throwaway line where you're

955
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: walking out as Chase is walking in and you just

956
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: casually say, Alex's gross.

957
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: Pick me a uh huh wait, I didn't even hear that.

958
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a run on word.

959
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 4: They don't even like shoot your face, it's just you

960
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 4: over your shoulder casually. They just stay on Chase the

961
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: whole time. But it's hilarious.

962
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: It's so funny, it's real funny.

963
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 2: That's great. I do like the Chase and Mia and

964
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: Mia and Grubs. I mean, did me and Grubs ever

965
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: get together? Is that what's coming up? Or they're just

966
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: friends so.

967
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 4: Far they're just friends. It seemed they were doing a

968
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 4: mouth miss Lauren thing though, where it was like is.

969
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: This yes, Yeah.

970
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: Was it fair of Mia to ask Chase if you

971
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 4: had slept with Alex?

972
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: I think I don't think so. I mean, I guess

973
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: you can ask anything, it doesn't have to be answered.

974
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: But that's true.

975
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that feels rooted in ego to me too.

976
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: You know, this idea that someone thinks that when your

977
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 3: relationship ends, they have the right to know anything about

978
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: your romantic life is so strange.

979
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: If she's trying to get over him, if it was like,

980
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: just tell me that you guys slept together, and then

981
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: I can start really wrapping my brain around you being

982
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: with another person. But you know, but she's the one

983
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: that broke up with him. Yeah, you broke up with him, big,

984
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: come on, like, get over it.

985
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: And I love that chase. He actually kind of he

986
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 4: put in her place and he was like, Yeah, you

987
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 4: broke up with me over text. You asked for me

988
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 4: back over text. She asked me out in person.

989
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: I loved that.

990
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

991
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: Perfect, that's a perfect answer.

992
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: Great.

993
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we got a listener question here. Oh, Madison

994
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: May asks there are some great cars in the show,

995
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: like Peyton's comment or even Julian's truck in season eight.

996
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: If you had to pick one of the character's cars

997
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: to drive in real life, which one would you choose?

998
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that comment's great, but it's a boat that

999
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: thing's going to be hard to park. What was did

1000
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: Clay have a Porsche? Was the green car? That was dry?

1001
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: Clay had that beautiful vintage Corvete. That's about Stingray that

1002
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: I was going to say that would be my pick,

1003
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: and then I thought, yeah, but how often does that

1004
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: thing break down? Like Julian's truck might actually be the

1005
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: most practical vintage car we had on our show.

1006
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: I remember though, what color was it? What it look like?

1007
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 3: Silver? Your car was that beautiful like gun metal silver

1008
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 3: with the red interior. I know all the I know

1009
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: all the old cars. How was it to drive?

1010
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: It was fast? It was great. I was going to

1011
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: say I would go Julian's truck because that car was

1012
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 4: it was tight.

1013
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: What color was the truck?

1014
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 6: Oh?

1015
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: The truck was black? Yeah, it was a black truck,

1016
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 3: big black pickup truck.

1017
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, that's a great car.

1018
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that would be my practical pick.

1019
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: You rob you two?

1020
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? The whatever sting Ray is that what it

1021
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: was called? So yeah my car? Yeah, it's it was beautiful,

1022
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 4: but I mean like it was small. We broke the

1023
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: glove box handles like it was you know what I mean,

1024
00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: it's more of antique.

1025
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: He was like a green in my mind. It's like

1026
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: a forest green in my mind.

1027
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 4: No, it was it was metal silver.

1028
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I believe you. That's strange. Okaytable honorable mentions

1029
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: seous my notes here. I mean, did Grubbs sing in

1030
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: this or was it the last one that he's sang it?

1031
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: He did, he wrote that last song for the album

1032
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: and then he put uh. I loved the shot. This

1033
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 3: might actually be my honorable mention just as a technical

1034
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: the shot of him leaving the recording studio and you

1035
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 3: can see a blurry piece of paper in the foreground

1036
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: and then they rack and it's Tour one London. I

1037
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 3: was like, ooh, that's that's very nice. I liked I

1038
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: liked the decision. I liked the way they did it.

1039
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 3: It was it was a beautiful little moment.

1040
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 4: I would say my honorable mention is when Nathan has

1041
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 4: the option to either give It's Nathan Haley sitting on

1042
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: the couch and Haley's like, do you want to go

1043
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: give him the talk? And Nathan says, or I could

1044
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: just play. I could give him the new Gears of

1045
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 4: War video game. I'm gonna do that, which I laughed.

1046
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 4: Because as a nerd gamer, I happen to know that

1047
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 4: is one of the most violent games where it's like

1048
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 4: you're either shooting people or sawing that. I mean, they're

1049
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 4: like monsters, Like yeah, like big guys, but like you're

1050
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: literally chainsawing bad guys in half. And I just laughed, going,

1051
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: I love that he avoided having a potentially uncomfortable conversation

1052
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: with his son and instead exposed him to massive.

1053
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: Violence after he's already looked at poorn on the internet.

1054
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: So we're just doing great as parents. It's really excellent.

1055
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 4: Dad of the year.

1056
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, well, my I guess my honorable mention will

1057
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: also be for Nathan and Haley, but it's more about

1058
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: just where their relationship's at right now. This is like

1059
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: top quality marriage material when you watch test partners who

1060
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: were just showing up for each other and encouraging each

1061
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: other and holding on holding space the way Nathan. I mean,

1062
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: I guess if I had to give it to one,

1063
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: I would say to Nathan for the way he's been

1064
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: taking care of Haley and handling this whole situation was

1065
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: really really excellent. So yeah, I'm just this is top

1066
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: form Nathan and Haley for me right now.

1067
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely agree. It's fun. It's really fun to watch

1068
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 3: you guys in this, and I like I like seeing

1069
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: two parents who go, oh my god, we thought we'd

1070
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: be good at this. We have no idea what we're doing.

1071
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 3: How do we buy some time?

1072
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 2: Like it's really so real, like twenty five years old?

1073
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: This is how old they're supposed to be. Twenty five

1074
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: I think James actually maybe was. But when you think

1075
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: about it now, in our forties, really, what what were

1076
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: we doing? I would not have had that maturity. I

1077
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: didn't know. I didn't at twenty five.

1078
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: Everybody nailed it, honestly.

1079
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: Spinning a wheel. We didn't even spin a wheel in

1080
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: the last episode, Guys, we didn't.

1081
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: We got so caught up.

1082
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 4: Okay, we have to make this one doubly good.

1083
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: Most likely too, Oh, this is unfair on our show.

1084
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: Most likely to win a karaoke competition.

1085
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: I mean half of our cast.

1086
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of musical talent, come on, you grubs.

1087
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: Kate Tyler, Janna, every musician that has come in on

1088
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Speaker 2: the show, I mean, how many bands that came in? Yeah, Jana,

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Speaker 2: I mean, oh, good grief. Hillary's got a great singing voice. Too.

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Speaker 2: I don't know's what what are we gonna do? We're

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Speaker 2: going to have a battle of the one Tree Hill voices?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, guys, And it depends on the song.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody's got a different genre that they're good at.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm going to give my Karaoke Award

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Speaker 2: to like Lee Norris, because I just think he would.

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Speaker 2: We would all be taking it too seriously and trying

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Speaker 2: to like really perform, and he would just get up

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Speaker 2: there and crush it. And actually, Rob, you probably would too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I am tone deaf, but I pour my heart

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Speaker 4: and soul into every performance.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then you're getting my karaoke vote.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm co signing with Joy.

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Speaker 2: It's Rob.

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Speaker 3: It's in the spirit of the performance.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that means the world to me. Guys, Thank you

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Speaker 4: and thank you for listening. Listen.

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Speaker 3: Thank you all so much. We will see you next

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Speaker 3: week for season eight, episode two.

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Speaker 2: I can't see you, but I know you're there.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy. Maybe if it's because we're all gonna finally

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Speaker 3: discover that Clay and Quinn have been shot. We really

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Speaker 3: have left you, guys hanging. It makes me uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: So so much. Also the shot that they come back

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Speaker 2: to of you on the floor after Nathan leaves your

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00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: house and it's you guys on the floor and the

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: blood on the door has not dried yet. And it's

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Speaker 2: been a day.

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean nighttime, So okay, it should be dried.

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Speaker 4: It should be dry.

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Speaker 2: It's fine, you know what. I don't need to say it.

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Speaker 2: Why do I need to say it? It's fine. Everybody's

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00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: doing a great job. Everyone's doing great. Why do I

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Speaker 2: need to point out the tiny little This is where

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Speaker 2: I need my friends. You guys have to jump in

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Speaker 2: and be like, Joy, doesn't worry about it, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: You're doing it again, Joy, You're doing it sor right.

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Speaker 3: So well, guys, that's sort of what our podcast is.

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Speaker 3: Next week, we're going to do it again all over

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Speaker 3: again by you all.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

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Speaker 2: dot com. See you next time.

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