Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Caddy.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong, and Jackie and he Armstrong and Caddy Strong.
Speaker 3: So it's graduation season, and particularly around colleges, it's the
Speaker 3: time of the year where self important liberals get invited
Speaker 3: to major universities to give speeches and then the media
Speaker 3: covers them like a news event because they're saying the
Speaker 3: sort of thing that most of the media agrees with.
Speaker 3: That's what happens well described. There are you know, people
Speaker 3: who lean right that go to colleges that lean right,
Speaker 3: the few that are, but they never make get any
Speaker 3: news coverage, so you don't hear about them, including the
Speaker 3: president instance. But here Joe mentioned this last week, I've
Speaker 3: seen this starting to burble up and get more attention.
Speaker 3: Where was which university? Was he speaking at North Carolina
Speaker 3: Wake Forest? Wake Forest in South Carolina, Carolina? I thought
Speaker 3: Wake Force was South Carolina and not unless it's moved, Okay, it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's it's your your it's your major
Speaker 3: figure of the left giving a lefty speech. But he
Speaker 3: went over the top and one of the reasons it's
Speaker 3: so remarkable is he's on one of the most important
Speaker 3: news programs in the world, Sixty Minutes, which allegedly is
Speaker 3: trying to be you know, a nonpartisan, hit it down
Speaker 3: the middle sort of coverage, or at the very least fair,
Speaker 3: just be fair, and a guy with this point of
Speaker 3: view can't be doing that. This is Scott Pelley speaking
Speaker 3: to college graduates.
Speaker 4: Power can rewrite history with grotesque, false narratives. They can
Speaker 4: make criminals heroes and heroes criminals. Power can change the
Speaker 4: definition of the words we use to describe reality. Diversity
Speaker 4: is now described as illegal, Equity is to be shunned.
Speaker 2: Inclusion is a dirty word.
Speaker 4: This is an old playbook, my friends, there's nothing new
Speaker 4: in this.
Speaker 5: We have another clip that I'm tempted to play. It's
Speaker 5: all about the fear, be very afraid, We're all in
Speaker 5: grave danger. Goes on and on, But that one really
Speaker 5: caught my ear because he claimed that the center and
Speaker 5: the right are trying to change the defaults of words,
Speaker 5: or say that they're no longer acceptable diversity, equity, and inclusion,
Speaker 5: which we all know exactly what they mean, and we
Speaker 5: all know they're wonderful. Those sickos on the right are
Speaker 5: trying to change what they mean, which is just unbelievable. Diversity, equity,
Speaker 5: and inclusion coming out of the mouths of a leftists
Speaker 5: mean nothing like you think they mean. It is a
Speaker 5: tool of capturing institutions.
Speaker 2: Right man.
Speaker 3: The left is so good at this game, and they
Speaker 3: get to pull it off with the help of the
Speaker 3: complying to media. It's like what I was listening to
Speaker 3: an on NPR today. They were discussing how Trump is
Speaker 3: trying to change the way we teach history in America
Speaker 3: and all the things he's attacking. Well, you put it
Speaker 3: in there. What do y'all lead within the last ten years?
Speaker 3: What they teach in schools is not the same as
Speaker 3: what they taught in schools when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: You put stuff in there that a lot of us
Speaker 2: don't like.
Speaker 3: When Trump tries to take it out, that's not rewriting history.
Speaker 3: You rewrote history. He's trying to write it back to
Speaker 3: what it was before. Sixty minutes anchor Scott Pelly ripped
Speaker 3: for angry, unhinged commencement speech criticizing Trump. Now, that's the
Speaker 3: New York Post's headline on that. Their version of it
Speaker 3: but angry and unhinged is not far off. He said
Speaker 3: that the uh we should all be worried about the
Speaker 3: insidious sphere that has infiltrated schools, businesses, and homes across
Speaker 3: the nation, leaving America in a state of peril. The
Speaker 3: country needs you. The country that has given you so
Speaker 3: much is calling you, the class of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Your country needs you, and it needs you today the morning.
Speaker 3: Our sacred rule of law. This morning, our sacred rule
Speaker 3: of law is under attack. Journalism is under attack, universities
Speaker 3: are under attack, freedom of speech is under attack, and
Speaker 3: insidious fear is reaching throughout the schools and into our
Speaker 3: private thoughts. All right, boy, that is just absolutely classic.
Speaker 3: You spend all of your time and your career convincing
Speaker 3: people they need to be terrified, when there's like two
Speaker 3: thirds of the country that's not at all, I mean,
Speaker 3: from mildly concerned to very interested. But no, we're not
Speaker 3: being torn apart by insidious.
Speaker 2: Fear at all.
Speaker 3: Scott, and the part right before that little clip about
Speaker 3: power that we just played you the fear to speak
Speaker 3: in America. If our government is in Lincoln's phrase, of
Speaker 3: the people, by the people, for the people.
Speaker 2: Then why are we afraid to speak? What the effort
Speaker 2: you talk about? Don't know?
Speaker 3: I assume he's referencing that Columbia student that got snatched
Speaker 3: up on the campus and that you were literally speaking
Speaker 3: about how you're afraid to speak. Do you see the
Speaker 3: irony there, Scott? Do I see the irony there?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Now, the New York Post says the speech was received
Speaker 3: with scattered, scant applause.
Speaker 2: That's the New York Post version. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: haven't actually listened.
Speaker 3: They might say that, and that might not be true,
Speaker 3: or it may be true, and it might be because
Speaker 3: everybody's barely paying attention and they just want to get
Speaker 3: out of there on a hot day. How long is
Speaker 3: this going to last? As opposed to not enjoying what
Speaker 3: he had to say, but that that is, that is
Speaker 3: that is just craziness. It is just craziness.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love the It reminds me so much of
Speaker 5: when Komy braced the president so then he could lake
Speaker 5: that leak that the president has.
Speaker 2: Been briefed on this Steele dossier.
Speaker 5: Well, so Scott Pelley and his brethren preached being terrified
Speaker 5: and in fear all the time, and then he goes
Speaker 5: to the graduation ceremony and breathlessly reports and everybody's really afraid.
Speaker 5: There's fear, in citious fear going on. Yeah, I wonder
Speaker 5: where that in citious fear came from. It's the roughly
Speaker 5: third of the country that listens to you and beliefs
Speaker 5: your crap. Don't don't terrify them, then report that they're
Speaker 5: terrified and act as.
Speaker 2: If somebody else did it.
Speaker 3: Well, And as he stands up in front of a
Speaker 3: bunch of university kids and said, now is the moment
Speaker 3: your nation is calling on you.
Speaker 2: With all the fear to speak out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fear to speak out for the past quite
Speaker 3: a while has been from anybody to the right on
Speaker 3: any college campus because you'll be a physically attacked and
Speaker 3: the university will do nothing about it. As long as
Speaker 3: you as long as you speak progressive stuff, you're safe.
Speaker 3: You speak anything the other side, you're physically not safe.
Speaker 3: But you didn't care about that fear to speak out aspect,
Speaker 3: did you, Scott Pelly?
Speaker 2: You Pampus asked, not for a second, did you worry
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 5: And just to double down on what you're saying, And
Speaker 5: it wasn't like the right half of ideology that was
Speaker 5: afraid to speak out.
Speaker 2: It was the right eighty percent.
Speaker 5: Anything outside of the most radical leftism had to keep
Speaker 5: its mouth shut on college campuses. And now Scott Pelley's
Speaker 5: preaching that people are afraid to speak out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, he is a piece of ass.
Speaker 3: Freedom of speech is under attack, and insidious fear is
Speaker 3: reaching throughout our school, our businesses, our homes, and into
Speaker 3: our private thoughts.
Speaker 2: What are you hands show a hans who's.
Speaker 5: Got insidious fear going in their business because they're afraid
Speaker 5: to speak or whatever. Now, maybe the tariffs have got
Speaker 5: you upset. I'll grant you that. Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 5: what that is. I'll tell you what that's driving that is.
Speaker 5: He believes diversity, equity and quality inequality means diversity, equity, inequality,
Speaker 5: that they mean those words, inclusion mean those words and
Speaker 5: not what they've twisted them to mean. And it's so
Speaker 5: that's what he's basing it on. So he is the
Speaker 5: useful idiot. He is the big, famous, pompous, useful idiot
Speaker 5: who doesn't understand neomarxism. He just he thinks it's a
Speaker 5: moral ark. Well, I'll move on from this because we
Speaker 5: don't need to belabor it forever. But do you think
Speaker 5: do you think he doesn't know that college campuses are
Speaker 5: not a safe space? I hate that term for anybody
Speaker 5: to you know, on the right eighty percent? As you said, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: does he not ignore us?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I don't think he's a knowledgeable, insidious activist. I think
Speaker 5: he is a pompous, rich, famous idiot, probably with big guns.
Speaker 5: Oh hey, tight shirts. Your shirt shrank in the dryer
Speaker 5: or something. It's very tight, very impressive for an older man.
Speaker 5: I'm very impressive for an older man. Yes, you pompous pos.
Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2: See Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3: Who's your favorite Simpsons character? Here's might be progressive economist
Speaker 3: Robert Reisch.
Speaker 2: Wait what.
Speaker 6: The decline of unions, rampant corporate greed, Wall Street mouthpeesians,
Speaker 6: and the rise of short sighted politics all contributed to
Speaker 6: increased economic inequality, widespread real unemployment wage, that nation had
Speaker 6: a lower standard of living for millions of Americans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's from the most recent episode of The Simpsons,
Speaker 3: which I understand. I mean they've thrown in random people
Speaker 3: over the years and kind of funny ways. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: it's so and so. But this was part of an
Speaker 3: overall episode in which they were explaining on how the
Speaker 3: middle classes getting screwed has gone away back in the fifties.
Speaker 3: I mean they even they talk about this. Well, I
Speaker 3: don't want to steal all of this. Here's a little
Speaker 3: bit of Alisa Simpson talking about it.
Speaker 7: All right, thanks for the history lesson nerds, But what.
Speaker 2: Does any of this have to do with me?
Speaker 8: You see, my dad's still working and I want to
Speaker 8: be just like him.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure you do.
Speaker 4: There's something else you need to learn, and my friend
Speaker 4: here is happy to teach you.
Speaker 2: Ough you for.
Speaker 7: Days, you've been dying to say something, Just spill it.
Speaker 2: You want to count like that? Too bad?
Speaker 7: So sad they'll never had the life of flaming ant.
Speaker 6: What can he do that a robot can't do that
Speaker 6: nuclear plant?
Speaker 9: Yo?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: I need is a foot in.
Speaker 7: The door, and I'll take dance job, winning down the
Speaker 7: boarding car job usday man needs a PhD. Walk Kingston
Speaker 7: comes leaves you and poverty. Don't clean your car, gosy house,
Speaker 7: no hot Dennis, good fire, stay at homes pass You're
Speaker 7: done a feuchery Coolerance sage, and you'll still have to
Speaker 7: choose between health care and rent.
Speaker 2: We'll probably just buy a play station six. You're my
Speaker 2: day pass. Don't read by your skateboard.
Speaker 8: You'll grow up.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's enough.
Speaker 3: You'll still have to choose between healthcare and rent. From
Speaker 3: The Simpsons, Wow, talking about how they get into it.
Speaker 3: I remember that song or some other part of the episode.
Speaker 3: A lot of it's a musical about out in the fifties.
Speaker 3: You could have a house and and uh and raise
Speaker 3: kids and go to college and do all the things
Speaker 3: you wanted on one salary, and now everybody has to
Speaker 3: work and you can't get ahead and blah blah blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. And then Robert Reich comes on. He was
Speaker 3: the Obama's economic guy in Clinton's and he's a super
Speaker 3: lefty anyway, he'd seriously be.
Speaker 2: More comfortable in Venezuela in the United States.
Speaker 3: Actually had all these charts that they were using on
Speaker 3: The Simpsons about how wages haven't increased, of course, completely
Speaker 3: leaving out the transfer payments of taxpayer money that are included.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, that sort of stuff. I don't want
Speaker 2: to get off on that.
Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable that the Simpsons did an episode that
Speaker 3: was like practically void of humor and just about economics
Speaker 3: all from one side. And then at the end, and
Speaker 3: if you already saw the episode, you know this. At
Speaker 3: the end of the janitor character who's trying to explain
Speaker 3: how awful America is in the incoming equality to Bart says,
Speaker 3: Bart says, basically, what can anybody do at this point?
Speaker 3: All we can do is burn it down. Bart says, cool,
Speaker 3: and he gets out his lighter and he goes to
Speaker 3: start a fire, and the janitor says, no, that's a metaphor.
Speaker 2: I mean burn the system down. And that's the end
Speaker 2: of the show.
Speaker 3: Wow, the Simpsons, the Services burned the system down the end.
Speaker 2: Holy crap. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3: Jeesus, I'd say that, wow, Wow, Wow. I felt like
Speaker 3: the politic The Simpsons were mostly non political for most.
Speaker 2: Of their years.
Speaker 3: Then there was some you know, like you're gonna get
Speaker 3: out of anything on TV, you know, some of this
Speaker 3: or that. But I mean, they made as many jokes
Speaker 3: about Bill Clinton certainly as they made about George Bush
Speaker 3: way back in the day. But this this was just
Speaker 3: I mean, it was beyond anything I've ever seen on
Speaker 3: any supposed entertainment show. Ever. Wow, I've got to watch that.
Speaker 3: Is it possible? I mean putting us at how outrageous
Speaker 3: and dishonest it is. And you know again, I'd like
Speaker 3: to get off on the economic arguments because they're almost
Speaker 3: entirely false. But The Simpsons has already been has always
Speaker 3: been written from the point of view of like, if
Speaker 3: there's a continuum of like radical Marxist to ultra conservative,
Speaker 3: their writers have always been like thirty three percent like
Speaker 3: liberal but moderate, sane liberal, sure, which is what I
Speaker 3: expect out of all my sitcums.
Speaker 5: Misfit Hollywood types who write jokes for living right. Is
Speaker 5: it possible that a third of the way on the
Speaker 5: continuum is now ultra woke, neo Marxist because of the
Speaker 5: hard swing left of the left.
Speaker 3: I was watching this episode with my kids, which they
Speaker 3: didn't find entertaining at all.
Speaker 2: They wanted to turn it off.
Speaker 3: Because it just wasn't interesting to them a bunch of
Speaker 3: economic statistics, but.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see the whole thing.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking, the writers must have decided, you
Speaker 3: know what we have, We have the power to get
Speaker 3: this message out and let's let's let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's take one episode and do it.
Speaker 3: That's all I could think, because they seem to a
Speaker 3: banded in the idea of.
Speaker 2: Everything.
Speaker 3: The show was a car certainment, entertainment of cartoon sitcom.
Speaker 2: Really weird though.
Speaker 3: And to the point of burning down the system is
Speaker 3: the only thing you can.
Speaker 2: Do neo Marxism. Wow.
Speaker 5: Well that the producers in Brass had to approve that too.
Speaker 5: I mean, the executive producers are aware of what the
Speaker 5: episodes are, or at least the you know, the producers.
Speaker 3: These are such weird times. And why it's so ridiculous
Speaker 3: by the way that people tag the Fox Television network
Speaker 3: with the same view that they have about Sean Hannity.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on Fox News. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's so many like obvious truths that we talk about
Speaker 3: on this show that you almost never hear anywhere else.
Speaker 3: In the top five or ten is certainly that yes,
Speaker 3: those wonderful manufacturing jobs where you could wander out of
Speaker 3: high school across the street to the Ford Motor Plant
Speaker 3: or whatever, make a nice middle class income by a house,
Speaker 3: a car in the suburbs.
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah, real with your frist. Europe was decimated
Speaker 5: by World War Two and wasn't manufacturing anything but buildings,
Speaker 5: so they would have roofs over their heads. And in
Speaker 5: Asia was to a large extent either pre industrial or
Speaker 5: decimated by.
Speaker 2: World War Two. So yes, we made the cars and
Speaker 2: the toasters of the world.
Speaker 3: Everybody else was rolling around in rubble trying to find
Speaker 3: their loved ones who died. That's close to word to
Speaker 3: word what I said to my kids on a unfortunate
Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon for them when they just wanted to watch
Speaker 3: The Simpsons, because I was explaining that to him, and
Speaker 3: I also said it the whole you used to be
Speaker 3: able to have a house in a car and send
Speaker 3: your kids at college on one income. I said, you
Speaker 3: know those houses were looking at because we're looking at
Speaker 3: houses that are way too small for us.
Speaker 2: That's the size house everybody.
Speaker 3: Used to live in on their one income, and everybody,
Speaker 3: including the family I grew up in, had one car,
Speaker 3: so it.
Speaker 2: Was quite different light style.
Speaker 3: Well, in the idea of country X, exporting toasters around
Speaker 3: the globe was utterly impractical for various logistical reasons.
Speaker 2: Now it's quite practical.
Speaker 3: You could have a big giant toaster plant in India
Speaker 3: and cell your toasters around the world in a way
Speaker 3: that was never possible in the fifties and sixties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting.
Speaker 3: It's the most it's the name of the episode is
Speaker 3: called Poorhouse Rock.
Speaker 2: I think it's the most recent episode that the Simpsons
Speaker 2: have put out. Well, not very funny. The Armstrong and
Speaker 2: Getty show.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, your Joe podcasts and our hot links.
Speaker 8: In Los Angeles police breaking up crowns what appears.
Speaker 2: To be the police called Leslieth, but.
Speaker 8: The large majority of the more than two thousand nationwide
Speaker 8: so called no Kings events taking place without incident.
Speaker 2: Well, that's true, it's great, that's true.
Speaker 3: But that was a fair amount of Mayhem that you
Speaker 3: just played for us, you know what I'm reminding you,
Speaker 3: kind of YadA YadA YadA, the Mayhem.
Speaker 5: Right exactly Mayhem and these eleven cities, But mostly it
Speaker 5: was peaceful. It reminds me very much of the discussion,
Speaker 5: particularly about a decade ago, about moderate Muslims.
Speaker 3: Well, no, sixty seven percent of Muslims don't want to
Speaker 3: kill all the Jews and infidels and take over the world. Well,
Speaker 3: those folks are irrelevant to the discussion. There are plenty
Speaker 3: who do want to do all those horrible, unspeakable things
Speaker 3: and or set fire to cities and bash cops heads
Speaker 3: in plenty.
Speaker 2: That's who we're talking about. Right.
Speaker 3: If I'm a cop and that one guy has thrown
Speaker 3: chunks of cement at my head, I'm really interested in that, dude,
Speaker 3: even if there are a thousand people over there peaceful.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: Right, two major things happened, and then we will discuss.
Speaker 3: Because you're busy with your life and your weekend, you
Speaker 3: shouldn't even know this because you're in normal person and
Speaker 3: you had summertime stuff to do, which I actually did do.
Speaker 3: But Trump Friday ordered immigration customs enforcement better known as
Speaker 3: ICE officers. On Friday, he ordered them to stop conducting
Speaker 3: raids and arrests on farms, restaurants, and hotels agricultural meatpacking plants.
Speaker 3: Several news outlets reported the decision reportedly came directly from
Speaker 3: the President. Our great farmers and people in the hotel
Speaker 3: and leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive
Speaker 3: policy and immigration is taking very good, longtime workers away
Speaker 3: from him. Those whose job as being almost impossible to replace.
Speaker 3: This is one of those deals where Trump comments on
Speaker 3: the news of the day like he's.
Speaker 2: A bystander, right, which is interesting.
Speaker 3: But so you know, the conversation had turned late in
Speaker 3: the week last week toward you rounded up all the people.
Speaker 3: You're showing up at farms and rounding up people have
Speaker 3: been there for years? Is that what we want to do?
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, fine, so there's that.
Speaker 3: We'll get back to that in a second. But then
Speaker 3: yesterday Trump in like a tolstoying length tweet from this
Speaker 3: from his outlet thingy, and I'll just read one sentence
Speaker 3: of it because it's very, very very long. ICE officers
Speaker 3: are herewith ordered by notice of this truth.
Speaker 2: So I like that the policy comes out this way.
Speaker 3: ICE officers are here with ordered by notice of this truth,
Speaker 3: to do all in their power to achieve the very
Speaker 3: important goal of delivering the single largest mass deportation program
Speaker 3: in history.
Speaker 2: And then he goes through all kinds of details and everything.
Speaker 5: What's your gut reaction to those two announcements. I do
Speaker 5: kind of like the quasi constitutional verbiage of by here
Speaker 5: by declare according to my article seven powers under truth
Speaker 5: social anyway.
Speaker 2: Sorry, So what's your gut reaction of the ab there?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I.
Speaker 3: Have one go ahead, I have an overarching theme about
Speaker 3: all of this, But I don't I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't know what was going on with why he reacted
Speaker 3: the way he did Friday, And was he backing off
Speaker 3: that yesterday or is he is?
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 5: A The announcement about hey, we're backing off farms and
Speaker 5: hotels and restaurants and meat packing plants and the rest
Speaker 5: of it. In short, workplace raise was a realistic reaction
Speaker 5: to huge sectors of the economy saying whoa WHOA. B
Speaker 5: was talking to the base, the hardcore, deport everybody base
Speaker 5: and Stephen Miller that part of the administration saying hey,
Speaker 5: I'm still on your team.
Speaker 2: I still got your back.
Speaker 3: So was one was behind the scenes and one was
Speaker 3: more pr So I heard something damn interesting over the
Speaker 3: week in that I think.
Speaker 2: Is true, so I will repeat it here.
Speaker 3: Sarah Isger of the Dispatch who she has been involved
Speaker 3: in several presidential campaigns and understands issue polling about as
Speaker 3: well as anybody, And I love the way She's always
Speaker 3: described that issue polling is practically worthless for all kinds
Speaker 3: of different reasons.
Speaker 2: But they were.
Speaker 3: Discussing the polls showing, you know, maybe some softening in
Speaker 3: people's enthusiasm for booting everybody out or that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: and she made the point, and I think this is
Speaker 3: absolutely true when it comes down to it, at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, you get around to a predictionally
Speaker 3: specifically the next presidential election, nobody's gonna care about the
Speaker 3: methods that were used and the crying mom whose kid
Speaker 3: just came here to go to school or whatever the hell.
Speaker 3: They're just gonna see somebody did something about ilegal immigration
Speaker 3: and we have way fewer legal immigrants the end, I'm
Speaker 3: happy with that.
Speaker 2: The whole process part will be lost. Nobody will remember that.
Speaker 3: This gets to what we were talking about last week
Speaker 3: of If you go through historically, there's almost no examples
Speaker 3: of big, giant Democratic Democrat demonstrations and revolts and things
Speaker 3: like this, whether it's rioting or peaceful process whatever.
Speaker 2: Working to their benefit politically.
Speaker 3: There's like no example of that, including when Nixon's guard
Speaker 3: shot a bunch of students on a college campus in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy and the left went wild, and songs were
Speaker 3: written and movies were made, and Nixon won forty nine
Speaker 3: states two years later. Because people don't like Mayhem. They
Speaker 3: want it put down. The individual methods would would pull
Speaker 3: horribly if you had pulled that. Do you think National
Speaker 3: Guard troops should shoot constants? I mean, like ninety eight
Speaker 3: to zero. You know, of course everybody hates that, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna vote for the guy who did it because
Speaker 3: i want order, right, right, boy.
Speaker 5: I have a very funny joke, but it's it hints
Speaker 5: at political violence, and now is not the time, so
Speaker 5: I'll pass on that. But the other principle I think
Speaker 5: it work here is that the further you go directionally
Speaker 5: in the right direction, like from wide open borders with
Speaker 5: TDA and MS thirteen gang members flooding the country, Chinese nationals,
Speaker 5: militant Muslims, God knows how long it'll take to reckon
Speaker 5: with how many really dangerous people Joe Biden let into
Speaker 5: this country.
Speaker 2: Anyway, the further we.
Speaker 5: Get from that, the more I think the American people
Speaker 5: are willing to discuss the subtleties, like when the Biden
Speaker 5: when the Biden border was wide open, everybody's like ship
Speaker 5: them out, every single legal every single order to ship
Speaker 5: them out, because it was such a crisis, it was
Speaker 5: such a disaster where we were. We've moved the ball
Speaker 5: way down the field now much further directionally toward control
Speaker 5: of the borders and adherence to the law, and so
Speaker 5: willing to say, Okay, let's talk about the law abiding
Speaker 5: worker who's been here for ten years.
Speaker 2: So on that when you get down to that.
Speaker 3: So why Friday Trump announced, Hey, I think guys should
Speaker 3: be kicking out farm workers and people in restaurants. It's
Speaker 3: just really interesting for Trump to say that. But I
Speaker 3: do think you're right, that is an economic decision. I
Speaker 3: don't think it was a political decision, because I think
Speaker 3: there's still enough people on the side of illegals have
Speaker 3: got to.
Speaker 2: Go, and you know why, because that's the law.
Speaker 3: I took in so much media coverage in Los Angeles
Speaker 3: while I was driving through LA on Saturday with all
Speaker 3: the protests going on and cops everywhere and lots of
Speaker 3: roads closed off and there it was fine, nothing really happened.
Speaker 3: There was such a giant police presence and National Guard
Speaker 3: presence that things never really got out of hand. But
Speaker 3: as listening to various other talk stations, not KABC where
Speaker 3: we work, Nobody presented it from the side of you know,
Speaker 3: the current law is you can't be here illegally. Doesn't
Speaker 3: matter if you're a law biting nice guy who everybody
Speaker 3: likes your kids at the high school.
Speaker 2: The law doesn't say that.
Speaker 3: So if you want the law to say, if you're
Speaker 3: a nice guy and everybody likes your kids at the
Speaker 3: high school, you don't have to go, then write that law.
Speaker 3: But for now, you either have to be for enforcing
Speaker 3: federal law or not. And if we're gonna decide that
Speaker 3: now we don't enforce federal law, Okay, what other federal
Speaker 3: law should we not enforce? If we're gonna go to
Speaker 3: start with taxes, please just throwing it out there. I
Speaker 3: can come up with several specific tax codes I'd like
Speaker 3: to do away with. If we're just gonna decide, you
Speaker 3: know what, we don't really need to enforce federal law.
Speaker 3: How is that not the nut of the conversation? You know,
Speaker 3: that's funny.
Speaker 5: I almost wish I'd spouted what I was thinking and
Speaker 5: then you could have answered with that, because I was
Speaker 5: about to express the other side of it, which is
Speaker 5: we've sent the message in a hundred different ways. Come
Speaker 5: to the country, get your paperwork, get a job, open
Speaker 5: a bank account. You can even buy a house, and
Speaker 5: nobody's gonna do anything about it. But a sort of
Speaker 5: call it wishy washiness about enforcing the law. Some would
Speaker 5: just call it realism.
Speaker 3: But that yields a situation where there's no pressure to
Speaker 3: do what you were yelling about, to actually reform the
Speaker 3: law and then enforce it, which is I mean, it
Speaker 3: seems stupid to have to say this out loud. Having
Speaker 3: laws and then enforcing them is the way a system
Speaker 3: like ours should work. All the news coverage you take
Speaker 3: in from the mainstream media or left leaning media seems
Speaker 3: to work from an assumption that we're just not going
Speaker 3: to follow federal law on this.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have nobody does, nobody wants to.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have all kinds of workarounds and carbouts and
Speaker 3: stuff that's all against federal law. Well, you can't operate
Speaker 3: like that, obviously.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that there aren't.
Speaker 3: There isn't more of an effort to, you know, vote
Speaker 3: for Jim Jones for Congress because he believes this should
Speaker 3: be the law.
Speaker 2: Around immigration.
Speaker 3: Right, I get a Congress that wants to pass laws
Speaker 3: and say, you know what, if you've been here for
Speaker 3: ten years and you've come into no crimes and everybody
Speaker 3: lecture kids at the high school, we're not kicking you out,
Speaker 3: and you get these workpapers, you become a citizen or whatever,
Speaker 3: we're gonna do. Pay a fine if you like whatever. Sure, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I would agree. And that was the point I was
Speaker 3: trying to make.
Speaker 5: I feel like we've moved directionally far enough in the correct,
Speaker 5: the right direction that now people are willing to have
Speaker 5: that conversation in a productive way. But I would suggest
Speaker 5: to my conservative brethren there will never be probably a
Speaker 5: better time than now to get a great deal. We've
Speaker 5: got both houses barely and the White House. Now is
Speaker 5: the time to pass serious immigration law. I'm not going
Speaker 5: to use I'm not going to use the cre comprehensive
Speaker 5: immaci R. I'm not going to use these are phrase
Speaker 5: because it is so you know, stinky in many people's noses.
Speaker 5: But we need serious reform of our immigration laws and
Speaker 5: then enforce the damn things. I mean, it's again, it's
Speaker 5: so obvious. I feel like I'm moron even saying it,
Speaker 5: But here we are incredible that it never came up.
Speaker 5: I don't know how many hours of.
Speaker 3: Coverage I took in of talk radio on various stations
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles and it never came up. You know,
Speaker 3: they are here illegally. I mean, by federal law, they
Speaker 3: should go. I don't care how nice a guy you
Speaker 3: are or how long you've been here. By federal law,
Speaker 3: you should have to go. That is as a starting place.
Speaker 2: Of course, yes, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Nobody mentions that. All right, here's your final bitterly cynical note.
Speaker 5: At least for me, if you were to assemble the
Speaker 5: top one hundred Democrat fundraisers and top one hundred Republican
Speaker 5: fundraisers in an arena and said, all right, show a hands,
Speaker 5: true or falls, it would be a disaster. If serious
Speaker 5: immigration reform passed for you raising money, every hand in
Speaker 5: the place would shut up, but shoot up.
Speaker 2: That's the worst thing that could happen.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe one way to force Congress to actually move
Speaker 3: would be to just start following the law. Maybe that'd
Speaker 3: be one way to get Congress to move, and and
Speaker 3: Trump should just say, over and over again, I'm following
Speaker 3: the law. You're always complaining about me being a dictator
Speaker 3: and not following the law.
Speaker 5: This is the law. What a beautiful idea. You ought
Speaker 5: to be in charge. You're the new chief of staff. Congratulations,
Speaker 5: you'll be missed around here The.
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Speaker 2: I guarantee I'm not the only person who's had this happen.
Speaker 3: They recommend that if hiring, well, practically anybody really, but
Speaker 3: I'm hiring sitters in a college town tends to be
Speaker 3: college girls. Everybody recommends check their social media to try
Speaker 3: to get an idea, you know, whether or not you
Speaker 3: you know, you check their references, you check their social media,
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has happened.
Speaker 3: Multiple times where I'm hiring the college girl I meet
Speaker 3: or she comes to my house dressed in normal clothes
Speaker 3: and everything like that, like a normal person. And they
Speaker 3: and in this case they've turned out to be incredibly responsible,
Speaker 3: great everything you'd want sitters.
Speaker 2: But I go to the social media and I see
Speaker 2: them in.
Speaker 3: Ways that I don't need to know that is there
Speaker 3: there should be I don't know how you would do this.
Speaker 2: There should be some sort of social media.
Speaker 3: This is for the people who want to hire me
Speaker 3: social media for the people that want to date me.
Speaker 3: This is my social media, and there should be two
Speaker 3: different versions. I don't like to see you in a
Speaker 3: thong bikini with your back toward me bent over in
Speaker 3: the pool, and then I have to agree with you.
Speaker 2: Sorry, do you have those links? Joe stupid? Don't do that.
Speaker 2: I'm not criticizing it. That's fine.
Speaker 3: You're a twenty one year old girl. That's what you're
Speaker 3: supposed to do with your life and whatever. I guess No, showing.
Speaker 2: Your naked ass is what you're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 10: The fah, I have been a twenty one year old
Speaker 10: girl and did not do that.
Speaker 3: Well, some do, some don't, but again I'm not judging
Speaker 3: that at all. Incredibly responsible and professionally dressed at my house.
Speaker 3: I only know this because I went to the social media,
Speaker 3: but that's what they recommend, and there was nothing on
Speaker 3: there that was like a red flag in terms of
Speaker 3: wanting to hire them or whatever, and all the reference
Speaker 3: was good and they've been good, so I have no complaints. OK,
Speaker 3: It's just I feel weird that I've seen your ass
Speaker 3: just words me out that's on you, that says you've
Speaker 3: said that sounds like you prom I think.
Speaker 2: This would make it more comfortable. Just casually bring it
Speaker 2: up in conversations. So what about that picture? Yeah, confront
Speaker 2: them with pictures. Yeah, I'd be like, so what is this?
Speaker 2: Where were you? And why this is a Hey that
Speaker 2: looks like a really cool beach. Where is that that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way I do it. That's the way
Speaker 3: I do it. That lamp, that lamp over there, Do
Speaker 3: you have any idea where I would get that, because
Speaker 3: that's a cool lamp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would fit in beautifully. Here you can see
Speaker 2: like an inch of the beach. It's just all ask
Speaker 2: was that this sand looks very nice and solid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 3: Not everybody goes that far, but it's fairly common though.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've had quite a few sitters over the
Speaker 3: last five years. It's pretty damn common. Certainly a bikini
Speaker 3: shot that's almost guaranteed, almost guaranteed you're gonna see them
Speaker 3: in a bikini, And well, I.
Speaker 2: Find that weird.
Speaker 3: My dad never saw any of We had like two
Speaker 3: babysitters my whole life. But I guarantee them. My dad
Speaker 3: never saw pictures of them in a bikini.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I have been on beaches, both coasts,
Speaker 5: various lakes, Tahoe, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's sort.
Speaker 5: Of where the tiny bikini, the butt floss whatever.
Speaker 2: Is fairly common. Oh yeah, I wouldn't make a big
Speaker 2: deal of that.
Speaker 3: I didn't, and I'm not. I just think it's weird
Speaker 3: that I've seen this. I wish there was a way
Speaker 3: I could not.
Speaker 10: I think wearing the bikini versus taking a photo of
Speaker 10: yourself in it and putting it on the internet is
Speaker 10: two very different.
Speaker 3: We have, Katie, let me let me step in here, please,
Speaker 3: We have a society that overvalues the woman's physical form,
Speaker 3: and so young women get the idea that that's an
Speaker 3: important measure of their womanhood. And if they happen to
Speaker 3: be like what's the term, crazy hot and in the
Speaker 3: best shape they'll ever be in in their lives, they
Speaker 3: might want to, you know, display that little.
Speaker 2: You're blaming the patriarchy, I am. I am quite quite so.
Speaker 10: Yes, Yeah, yeah, I mean I'd like you'll see it
Speaker 10: overthrown guilty as charged. There may be a bikini or
Speaker 10: two photos out there of you. Yeah, but I was
Speaker 10: twenty one and I'm never gonna look like that again.
Speaker 2: So exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, I'm not condemning it. It just
Speaker 3: seems like, well, it's an interaction that didn't used to exist,
Speaker 3: but between employer employee when it comes to hiring a sitter,
Speaker 3: no doubt.
Speaker 2: I have another question.
Speaker 10: Is it a photo with intention to be provocative? Or
Speaker 10: is this just like she was on the beach with
Speaker 10: her friends.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're I'd say it's more of the latter than
Speaker 3: the former. You can't help but be provocative. If you're
Speaker 3: hot in a pong Yeah, I mean, it's just no
Speaker 3: matter what you're doing provoking disease. You could be pilling
Speaker 3: out your taxes. It's still kind of provocative. Actually, that's
Speaker 3: double hot to me. Wait a minute, you look like
Speaker 3: that and you're good at doing taxes. Here's a ring.
Speaker 2: Just think about it.
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