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Speaker 1: Well, well, well and ho ho ho ti is the season.

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Speaker 1: I think we all ready for some Christmas Day games. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we got Job's return, we got the state of the

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Speaker 1: Knicks and MVP talk with NBA analysts Brian Geltzeiler on

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Speaker 1: today's episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack O'Brien, I'm producer Jabari and for Miles.

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Speaker 3: And this is mild and Jack at occasionally.

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Speaker 4: One Davis Cup.

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Speaker 3: Be driving, spinning, Katie.

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Speaker 4: Curry a three stuff Curry from Don Tell again be

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Speaker 3: Look out shows. What's you got, guys? What's up?

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Brian? Hey, guys, how we doing pretty good?

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Speaker 1: Many you know, just enjoying this uh holiday season of

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Speaker 1: NBA riches. How's the vibes? How's vibes in New York?

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Speaker 1: As a as a basketball fan?

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Speaker 4: It's all good. Listen. You got two decent teams, two

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Speaker 4: teams hanging around in a playoff chase, both teams with

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Speaker 4: the ability to go make deals to get better as

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Speaker 4: we approach the trade deadline. And both teams that if

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Speaker 4: they do make deals to get better, could certainly elevate

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Speaker 4: their chances to advance in the playoffs. So the vibes

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Speaker 4: in New York as far as basketball concern are very

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Speaker 4: good and looking up you know, it's uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson has changed the fortunes of the Knicks. There's

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Speaker 4: no doubt about that. And I will say as well

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Speaker 4: as the nuts of play, they actually I never thought

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Speaker 4: i'd utter these words. They need Ben Simonthson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've heard people utter those words before.

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Speaker 1: As a seventy six Ers fan. I've heard other people say,

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Speaker 3: Who, you know who we could use right now? Benson?

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Speaker 3: Like does he if he wanted to play basketball? That

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Speaker 3: would be cool.

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Speaker 1: But back to the Knicks, I am, how is Jalen

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Speaker 1: Brunson shooting? Like how he's having one of the best

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Speaker 1: shooting years of anybody?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Isn't he shooting like high forties from three?

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Speaker 4: Phenomenal?

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Speaker 3: Forty six percent from three? Is there a world like

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Speaker 3: the question?

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Speaker 1: You know when when he took Dallas deep and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people were like, wells, Luca took them deep,

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Speaker 1: and this is the way things are from now on,

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Speaker 1: Dallas goes deep. And then Brunson left and they didn't

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Speaker 1: go deep, and the Knicks started making runs in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It started being like maybe this guy is an ingredient.

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Speaker 1: He's definitely an ingredient for a championship team. Is there

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Speaker 1: a world where he is on a team that wins

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Speaker 1: the championship and he is the best player on that team.

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Speaker 3: Are we at that level yet?

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Speaker 4: No? I don't think so. I don't know how you

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Speaker 4: ever will be. Listen the thing about Brunson so and

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Speaker 4: we the Knicks have done very well against bad competition

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Speaker 4: this year and have struggled against good competition now again

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Speaker 4: this particular road trip, a win in Phoenix, a win

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Speaker 4: in LA against the Lakers. That's starting to look up,

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Speaker 4: and that's a nice thing for them, But you worry

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Speaker 4: about them defensively at that and more than that. Listen,

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Speaker 4: Brunson hit through quickness and craft and smarts and an

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Speaker 4: understanding of how to navigate screens. He can get to

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Speaker 4: his spots at will, and it's a fantastic asset to have.

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Speaker 4: But when you're in the play playoffs and then try

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Speaker 4: and advance deep and you're playing against the best defenses

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Speaker 4: the league has to offer, you're gonna need somebody else. Listen.

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Speaker 4: I will hold to this. Brunson was at his best

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Speaker 4: as Lucas wingman. It with Dallas will. I know they

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Speaker 4: regret it now, they will only continue to regret letting

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Speaker 4: them go and not not you know, signing him to

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Speaker 4: the money that he wanted. It just it was a horrible,

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Speaker 4: horrible move by Dallas. But that's where Bruntson is ideal

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Speaker 4: and I think for the next Kenny Smith made a

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Speaker 4: the teams that they're gonna play against are always going

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Speaker 4: that's where you get into what do they do trade wise,

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Speaker 4: another guy. But by the same token, is their usage

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Speaker 4: and listen, there's plug young players they have that the

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Speaker 4: but he's widely respected around the league, and he signed

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Speaker 4: they have the young players, they have the picks, and

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Speaker 4: they have that expiring deal in Fortyer to be able

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Speaker 4: they've passed on a lot of guys. And I don't

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Speaker 4: blame him for passing on Mitchell. Mitchell wouldn't have fit

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Speaker 4: well here. But Mitchell may be available again, and that's

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Speaker 4: gonna be the tough spot the Knicks are in. Maybe

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Speaker 4: the best player they can go get is Donovan Mitchell,

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Speaker 4: who's a very imperfect fit here. I don't know the

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Speaker 4: He certainly hasn't done that with the Cavs. With a

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Speaker 2: So, speaking of guys that you know, you mentioned guys

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Speaker 2: you about Julius Randall. Obviously, you know I saw him

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Speaker 2: when he know, during his younger days, you know, out

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Speaker 2: he's getting about ten rebounds, he's getting this is out

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Speaker 2: but why does it seem like he's such a polarizing

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Speaker 4: Well, just because you know, there's a couple things involved.

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Speaker 4: First of all, two years ago, he acted like he

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Speaker 4: not a guy that's gonna be able to hide on happiness.

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Speaker 4: He wears his emotions on his sleeve. That turned Nick

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Speaker 4: that bothers Nick fans also, Randall's also inconsistent defensively, and

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Speaker 4: even a year like this year where you're getting full

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Speaker 4: Some night he's not, and that remains a trouble spot

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Speaker 4: for the Knicks. With all that said, I will say this,

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Speaker 4: even with the ball dominance, his assist numbers are up,

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Speaker 4: You know the Knicks and they have some issues here,

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Speaker 4: but I don't know that Randall is one of them.

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Speaker 4: Right now. Here's my only one concern with Randall forgetting

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Speaker 4: prety efficient this year, and they've been a really good

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Speaker 4: I mean that's a big number. The thing is this,

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Speaker 4: and you talk to the executives coaches around the league.

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Speaker 4: Everybody says the same thing. It's been going on for years.

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Speaker 4: You can hide one, you can't hide two and the

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Speaker 4: Knicks have to hide Bruntson because he's an abysmal defensive player.

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Speaker 4: Hiding Randalls some Knights and Brunton becomes a very very

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Speaker 4: difficult thing for the Knicks. And Randall's inconsistent defense is

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Speaker 4: something that sticks in the craw the Knick fans, and

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Speaker 4: it's something that could be a fatal blow to the

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Speaker 4: Knicks in a playoff series against a team like the Celtics.

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Speaker 4: The Bucks are the sixers.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk Mitchell Robinson real quick.

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Speaker 1: There's a point earlier where we looked at his offensive

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Speaker 1: coming back down to earth a little bit, but he's

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Speaker 1: still just collecting offensive boards.

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Speaker 1: I think he's at five point three a game. The

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Speaker 1: As someone who watches the games, what like does he

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Speaker 1: do you get the sense that he's like a robmin

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Speaker 3: So it feels like a thing that's going.

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Speaker 1: To be increasingly emphasized in the coming years. But like

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Speaker 1: he seems to have a real genius for it. What

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Speaker 1: what do you see there when you watch him play?

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Speaker 4: It's I don't think he's not It's he's not studying

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Speaker 4: the science or rebounding like Robin. He's relentless, he's very

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Speaker 4: he's very quick. He's got a really quick first step.

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Speaker 4: He's bouncy for guy his size. And the other thing

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Speaker 4: He's seven foot two eighty right now. And the dude

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Speaker 4: ain't fat, all right. He has muscled up hard, so

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Speaker 4: it's not only and he hasn't lost quickness, So it's

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Speaker 4: not only that he beats you to the ball. If

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Speaker 4: like he's he's that physical. I mean, think about Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: We talked about the Biggs last year, Mobley and Allen,

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Speaker 4: what did he do to them in that first round

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Speaker 4: playoff series? They couldn't keep him off the glass. And listen,

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Speaker 4: It was sheer force at times. And that's who Mitchell

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Speaker 4: Robinson is. And listen to the Knicks that will say

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Speaker 4: they are so set at the center position because the

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Speaker 4: very very well for the Knicks that this and the

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Speaker 4: I mean they're in good shape in that spot and

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Speaker 4: spot that they shouldn't look to trade off of. Really

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Speaker 4: what they need is size on the wing. And their

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Speaker 4: biggest problem, quite frankly, is that the guy that's going

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Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I mean for me, as we discussed ahead

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Speaker 2: of the you know, ahead of the show, I think

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Speaker 2: embiid as a leader in the clubhouse, but I think

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Speaker 2: I might lean more towards Shay as being in that

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Speaker 2: mix and not just you know, not necessarily being on

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Speaker 2: the you know, on the outside looking in with Luca

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Speaker 2: and and and and perhaps that's you know, perhaps that's

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Speaker 2: on me. Perhaps that's because I wasn't full discloser, Brian.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't as I didn't see it as quite as

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Speaker 2: Jack did a head of the season. Jack ahead of

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Speaker 2: this season actually put money on Okay s Now not

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Speaker 2: just the we're not talking pre season, we're talking July,

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Speaker 2: when we were in Vegas in July, on ok C

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Speaker 2: to win this year's title. So maybe maybe it's because

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Speaker 2: I never I didn't see that as any chance whatsoever,

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Speaker 2: And suddenly, you know, I'm looking at him as continued development,

448
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Speaker 2: you know, being able to welcome like a talent like

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Speaker 2: Chit right into the fold, and you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: everybody finds their own groove. I guess that's why I'm

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Speaker 2: giving I'm probably giving extra credit as a result of that.

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Speaker 1: Out of surprise, whereas I knew exactly that this was

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Speaker 1: going to happen, and so I'm less impressed. Uh, And

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Speaker 1: I agree that it's embeid. Here there's a great moment

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Speaker 1: on the game winning shot that Shaye head over Denver

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Speaker 1: where he releases the ball and it's the game's in Denver,

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Speaker 1: and it gets loud in a very specific way that

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Speaker 1: you only hear when a home crowd knows they're about

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Speaker 1: to have their hearts ripped out. And it's like this

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Speaker 1: like exhale inhale, loud, like screaming backwards. Thing like that

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Speaker 1: they should add it to like what one of the

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Speaker 1: noises they put in the t Rex scream in Jurassic Park.

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Speaker 1: It's like a truly haunted sound, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: it is the sound of greatness. Like everybody in that arena,

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Speaker 1: every one of those fans of the champion, the defending champs,

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Speaker 1: knew that was going in.

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Speaker 3: They just like you.

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Speaker 1: If we could insert it here, it's like, ah, it's

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Speaker 1: like uh roar backwards or something, and it's I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard it in a long time, but it feels like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it signified something to me about Shay.

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Speaker 2: I'll annoy some people. It's the sound that you used

473
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Speaker 2: to get when Kobe was playing on me. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not comparing the two players. I'm not

475
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Speaker 2: doing that, but I know that exact sound where the

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Speaker 2: even though opposing crowd knows hush.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's take one more break

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Speaker 1: and we'll come back. And we're back and uh, Brian,

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Speaker 1: I know we're about to lose you. We do want

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Speaker 1: to give you a couple of rapid fire questions before

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Speaker 1: you're gone.

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Speaker 3: Who is the.

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Speaker 1: Most underappreciated of the all time greats? Uh? You're and

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Speaker 1: by the way, this is the fastest segment of podcasting.

485
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Speaker 1: You're not supposed to think about your answers. Just boom,

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Speaker 1: let it go. No, no Dailly Daly and no no

487
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Speaker 1: beating around the bush. Greatest most underappreciated of the all

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Speaker 1: time greats?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Someone who deserves to be mentioned, but is often left.

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Speaker 4: Out Oscar Robertson he was doing the triple double before

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Speaker 4: the triple double was a thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, keep going.

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Speaker 4: You can go back.

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Speaker 2: You can go back in time and permit either Prime

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Speaker 2: Ewing or Prime Mellow to take this run with this

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Speaker 2: particular Knick squad in today's game.

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Speaker 4: Which one are you choosing? Prime? Youwing every day of

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Speaker 4: the week and twice on Tuesdays?

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Speaker 1: All right, you correctroactively space sham yourself into having my

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Speaker 1: good friend Robert Ory's career or Charles Barkley's career.

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Speaker 3: Which one are you choosing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Like rings, I would take Robert Ariy's career as

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Speaker 4: much as I love Chuck, who was dominant and had

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Speaker 4: a blast. But you know what, Robert Ry always found

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Speaker 4: himself there when teams were winning, and he made some

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Speaker 4: big shots of the help this.

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Speaker 3: Team do it, just as Jewelry just in general, Like, yeah, just.

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Speaker 2: All right, lead one more and you can have any

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Speaker 2: players skill set for one day. Who's in what skill

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Speaker 2: set would it be?

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Speaker 4: That's an outstanding question. That's one that I've never actually

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Speaker 4: thought about, but I guess I have to give you

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Speaker 4: a quick answer. I would tell you any an active

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Speaker 4: player or player in history. Let me ask him that way,

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Speaker 4: any player ever, any player ever, if I could have

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Speaker 4: their skill set, I would probably tell you Michael Michael

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Speaker 4: Jordan's the pad answer, like it's the easy answer, you know.

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Speaker 4: But I will tell you that very I never enjoyed

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Speaker 4: and admired a player more than watching Magic Johnson at

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Speaker 4: his prime, what he was able to do at his

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Speaker 4: side and this asketability and just spoorting the fast break.

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Speaker 4: And to me, that was a specialist special could get

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Speaker 4: and that was the guy I wanted to be.

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Speaker 1: I love it all right, Well, Brian, such a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you. Where can people find you? Listen to you

527
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Speaker 1: all that good stuff?

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Speaker 4: You can get me on Twitter, slash x at Beagalt's NBA.

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00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: You can hear me on NBA Weekend on Serious XMNBA

530
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Speaker 4: Radio seven to ten am East Drink Time every Saturday morning,

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Speaker 4: and I host This week in NBA Radio every Sunday morning.

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Speaker 4: That's eight am to ten am on Sirius XM NBA Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, Brian Geltzeiler, thank you so much for joining us,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, happy holidays to you and yours.

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Speaker 4: All right, all right, you two guys, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Take care all right, take care.

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Speaker 1: So usually we end with rapid fire, but where we

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Speaker 1: do have to mention a couple people who are kind

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Speaker 1: of on a tear right now. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we've talked about him yet. I think it is is

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Speaker 1: it pronounced Joel or Joel? I think it's like for

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Speaker 1: the Hoel, like the first Hoel embiid from the seventy

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Speaker 1: six ers. We're just gonna go through his last seven games, uh,

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Speaker 1: forty fourteen and six assists, forty two, fifteen boards and

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Speaker 1: three assists, thirty five thirteen boards, two assists, forty one,

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Speaker 1: eleven boards, five assists, you know, thirty four ten, six,

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, fourteen, three fifty thirteen seven. During that time,

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Speaker 1: the Sixers have been six and one, and he is

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Speaker 1: mainly doing that while sitting out the fourth quarter because

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Speaker 1: they're just destroying teams and Philly is now the top

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Speaker 1: point differential team by a pretty good margin eleven point three.

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Speaker 1: They're outscoring opponents by eleven point three points. Boston's in

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Speaker 1: second with eight point six. That was just Boston was

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Speaker 1: always the king of that. Like Boston was always number

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Speaker 1: one point differential, So it just feels nice to be

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Speaker 1: number one point differential and I don't know, man, he's

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Speaker 1: he's on one once again. I don't people keep waiting

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Speaker 1: for him to like fall off. They're like, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: this is you know, he's at his peak. So they're

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Speaker 1: really better, like make some moves now because he's gonna

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Speaker 1: his body parts are gonna start falling off of his

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Speaker 1: body next year.

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Speaker 3: But it hasn't happened yet. Knock on wood, Dame.

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Speaker 1: We should talk about Dame's put up in his last

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Speaker 1: three games. My favorite player to watch while locked in,

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Speaker 1: while he's at this in this type of zone. Last

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Speaker 1: three games forty points, three boards, four assists, thirty nine points,

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Speaker 1: five boards, eleven assists, thirty three points, four boards, five assists,

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Speaker 1: and Milwaukee is eight and two over the last ten

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Speaker 1: and second in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 3: They seem to have.

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Speaker 1: Figured out like how to kind of start working things

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Speaker 1: together between he and uh Giannis, they seem excited to

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Speaker 1: be playing together.

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Speaker 3: It's it's fun. Things are fun in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: Things they are fun in the NBA for the reasons

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Speaker 1: we expected them to be, Like all the good teams

578
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Speaker 1: are starting to come together and be like, yeah, at

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Speaker 1: least out East, at least out East.

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Speaker 2: I would say out West, some of us are a

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Speaker 2: little bit of we're still trying to figure it out, but.

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Speaker 3: Still getting your footing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then uh, Ben Carro, Baby, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a month over month comparison. He's he's like, uh, the

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow of the NBA. He's a slow starter who

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Speaker 1: gets it going as he goes. October twelve points a game,

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Speaker 1: five boards, forty four percent true shooting percentage. November twenty

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Speaker 1: point nine, six point six boards, fifty eight true shooting.

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Speaker 1: December twenty six point one points, eight point one boards,

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Speaker 1: fifty five percent true shooting.

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Speaker 3: Uh. For a guy who just turned twenty one years old.

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Speaker 4: So pretty good.

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Speaker 3: He might be good or we'll see. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Tik and Mary had a career night where he made

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Speaker 1: twelve of thirteen threes, which is good.

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Speaker 3: I think that's pretty good. Scored in the forties.

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Speaker 1: It was the most threes by a player that young

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Speaker 1: since trying to see what this guy's Kobe.

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Speaker 3: Bryant, Oh, yeah, you know, I've heard of him. And

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Speaker 3: speaking of Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen years ago today, Kobe outscored the entire Mavericks team

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Speaker 2: through three quarters.

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Speaker 4: Jack did you.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever see that game or do you can

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Speaker 2: see the clips of that game?

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Speaker 3: I don't think I did. Now I watched I.

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Speaker 4: Watched it live, and I can tell you it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's cliche to say it now because, like you know,

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Speaker 2: people you just want to be different. But it was

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Speaker 2: even more impressive than the eighty one one point game

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Speaker 2: that he had just a few weeks later, and specifically

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Speaker 2: because he did it through three quarters at the end

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Speaker 2: of the At the end of the third quarter, the

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Speaker 2: Lakers broadcast put Kobe sixty two Mavericks sixty one. Phil

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Speaker 2: asked him, do you want.

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Speaker 4: To go get it?

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Speaker 3: He said, nah, I'll do it again pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Phil gave him the choice.

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Speaker 2: Said do you want to go Do you want to

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Speaker 2: go out there and do it in the fourth and

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Speaker 2: you know, go for a hundred.

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Speaker 4: Even he said no, I'll do it again. In three

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Speaker 4: weeks later, here we were that.

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Speaker 3: He put up to eighty one, which is the second

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Speaker 3: most still to this day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, still still to this day eighty one. But then again,

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Speaker 2: there's no footage of that hundred. So I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: say eighty one is the most.

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Speaker 1: The most points we've ever seen scored in an NBA

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Speaker 1: game we've ever seen. It's uh, it does go against

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Speaker 1: what pew like people are like, Oh, Kobe was you

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Speaker 1: know all about Hi getting his getting his stats and

633
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Speaker 1: so I don't know, Wil was just out there doing

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Speaker 1: that just for sheer like it.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't anything fun about what Wilt was doing.

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Speaker 1: He's just walking down below the basket, holding his hands up,

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Speaker 1: getting the ball thrown at the net, catching it, tipping

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Speaker 1: it in.

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Speaker 3: No, I actually don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen a full game's worth of

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Speaker 1: Will Chamberlain highlights. So all the old heads can get

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Speaker 1: mad at me for that, but that is pretty like

643
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Speaker 1: watching him play. He looks like he's having so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Kobe enjoyed playing basketball.

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Speaker 2: And destroying teams in particular, so in specific teams like

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Speaker 2: the Mavericks at that time.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, no, that was a heck of a lot

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Speaker 4: of fun.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well those are those are the stories that

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Speaker 1: has been another year in the books for Miles and

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Speaker 1: Jack got Matt Boosti's thank you superproducer Jabbari for putting

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Speaker 1: it together, thank you super producer Brian Jefferies for editing

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Speaker 1: all of it together, and thank you guys for listening.

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Speaker 1: You can follow us on Twitter. I'm at Jack Underscore,

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Speaker 1: Obrian Jabari, Where can they find you?

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Speaker 4: I'm at Jabori Davis NBA.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you follow mild At at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and uh and then you can look for

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Speaker 1: us hashtagging Matt boostis Is that what we hashtag it?

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Speaker 3: And that's gonna that's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the Christmas Games, enjoy your holidays, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back in the new year. We will talk to y'all then.

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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Speaker 4: Peter.