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Speaker 1: Good evening, everyone, Welcome to the program here in the

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Speaker 1: Hunday Texans Radio studio at NRG Stadium. It's Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Mark van Jamer with you. Rodeo buzzing in the background,

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Speaker 1: Luke Bryant going tonight and all these bulls and sheep

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Speaker 1: and other animals. John McClean joins us from the Houston Chronicle. General,

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Speaker 1: how's it going? It's going, Greg, Mark, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing very well. Have you done any rodeo stuff yet?

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Speaker 1: I have not done rodeo? This as close as I've

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Speaker 1: gotten come over here and come in to do our

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Speaker 1: show together. And I've gone for years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: But unless my wife says I gotta go, I don't.

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Speaker 1: And so far since Barry Manilow's not here, she hasn't

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Speaker 1: told me I gotta come. Barry Manilow. Time it's been

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Speaker 1: at the rodeo, I've been there, really, Yeah. I came

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Speaker 1: when friends of mine from Nashville or here, Martina McBride

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Speaker 1: and the band Perry and a couple of others that

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Speaker 1: I known. But this year Garth didn't and Bright invite

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Speaker 1: me to the open it dare he doesn't he have

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Speaker 1: any sense of tradition. Is Martina coming this year, by

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Speaker 1: the way, or is she likes her radio time kind

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Speaker 1: of done? I don't know, but I didn't see her

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Speaker 1: on the list. Yeah, I really enjoy watching her. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's talk Texans here general. We've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: things to go over, so let's get to them, all right.

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Speaker 1: So this time next week we'll have how many signings

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Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans or how many agreements in place

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Speaker 1: in free agency will be over twenty four hours in

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Speaker 1: too free agency? Officially, Well, today they took Shane Lechler

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Speaker 1: off the market one year, one point two million. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry to one year, two million, one point four bas

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Speaker 1: six hundred to sign. Not that you know this, not

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Speaker 1: that I know this since I tweeted it this morning

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Speaker 1: and wrote about it. And the thing about the Texans

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Speaker 1: list of free agents, there's a lot of them, but

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Speaker 1: it's not a lot of guys. You go, you got

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Speaker 1: to have that guy back. So I think that they'll

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Speaker 1: like to have Jonathan Joseph back if it's a good deal.

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Speaker 1: As I've said this before, I'd love to see aunt

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Speaker 1: Joseph in this organization when his career is over. I

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Speaker 1: think bringing him in here. It's one of the best

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Speaker 1: moves they've ever made. And I would want him around

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Speaker 1: the players. I don't know if it as a coach

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Speaker 1: or a player relations but he's such a positive influence

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Speaker 1: on everybody, a true leader. I think there's a good

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Speaker 1: chance Xavier Silphilo at some point he'll be signed. But

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Speaker 1: I think Brian Gaine's gonna make a splash. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that it's Brian's first time in charge, but if

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Speaker 1: you want a left tackle, really there's one there, Nate Soldier,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna be way overpaid, but they could give

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Speaker 1: him one hundred and fifty million more than Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna complain because of five left tackles last

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Speaker 1: year and he's gonna be thirty and Andrew Wentworth playing

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Speaker 1: well at thirty five or six, and next year when

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Speaker 1: you got to one in two twos, if you still

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Speaker 1: want to left tackle, draft him then So I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: it's Solder, and I think they'll make a splash with

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Speaker 1: a corner. It is a deep, deep free agent period

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Speaker 1: for cornerbacks, led by Malcolm learned from Make Johnson, but

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Speaker 1: E J. Gaines, a Buffalo who Brian saw every game

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Speaker 1: last year. Don't know what he thinks about him, but

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Speaker 1: I'm keeping an eye on him as well as a

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Matt Moore. Is that your target? No, my

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Speaker 1: targets Ryan Fitzpatrick. I've said that from one that's a natural.

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Speaker 1: But Matt Moore's two years younger than Fitzy and Brian

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Speaker 1: was there for six years when he was there. But

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick seems like such a natural because he knows the system,

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Speaker 1: he said Bill O'Brien, and they coached him better here

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Speaker 1: than he plays. He'd ever been coached in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: and he can still play. He was two and one

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Speaker 1: as a starter, and he would mentor to Shaun Watson

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Speaker 1: and I would have no problem with more either. But

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Speaker 1: they got to get a backup quarterback. It's not you know,

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Speaker 1: we're saying, Okay, well, it's not a priority like left

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Speaker 1: But still you gotta have somebody, and based on what

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Speaker 1: happened last year, you might need to. And so I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see see what Brian Gaine does at

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Speaker 1: that position. I have a think coming Sunday with or

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Speaker 1: it's already out on our website top five I have

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Speaker 1: know or think about the Texans and free agency. I

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Speaker 1: do that with the draft Wednesday, I think. And so

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Speaker 1: it's a great time of the off season. You know,

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Speaker 1: we saw each other every day at the Combine. That

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Speaker 1: a lot of great stories. So I'm pumped about what's coming. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: So Soldier would be your top target for this team

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Speaker 1: because left tackle is the position and it has to

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Speaker 1: be taken care of Deshaun Watson's blindside. And if it's not,

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Speaker 1: I think he'll sign a left tackle and they'll use

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Speaker 1: a third round pick on a left tackle. All right,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get something done somehow. Now, Derek Newton, right tackle,

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Speaker 1: who's been out coming back from catastrophic knee injuries, both knees.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on his turn. I mean, we see him

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Speaker 1: walking around here and everything rehabbing, and by all accounts,

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Speaker 1: knows about being able to play football at a high level. Again,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts. So they don't have any idea. All they

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Speaker 1: know is his recovery. He's worked so hard. Everybody's pulling

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Speaker 1: for Derek come back play right tackle, might have to

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Speaker 1: play guard. He started at both guard positions. I think

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Speaker 1: Julio Davenport is going to be the leader in the

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Speaker 1: going into the offseason programming to play right tackle. And

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Speaker 1: if Derek could come back and start at any of

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Speaker 1: those positions. I keep saying, it's like a cherry on

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Speaker 1: top of a Sunday. It's something you don't know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get, but when you get it, boy, sure is

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Speaker 1: good and everybody wants him to come back. It's so funny.

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Speaker 1: You know, with Newton and Dwayne Brown, they have to

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Speaker 1: and Derek started four and a half years until he

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Speaker 1: blew out both Quade attendons. And but they can't count

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Speaker 1: on him right now because they haven't seen him. So

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Speaker 1: you have to move as if he's not going to

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Speaker 1: be here, and if it is, it's one of those

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Speaker 1: good problems to have. Yeah, and you brought it up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, tackle was solidified for a while. When you

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Speaker 1: felt pretty good about the right side and Dwayne Brown

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Speaker 1: it was something that you didn't take for granted, but

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Speaker 1: you really appreciate it. And now they have to find

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Speaker 1: a way to shore up both of those spots. And

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Speaker 1: you mentioned backup quarterback. I think we do both agree

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Speaker 1: that Ryan Fitzpatrick would fit in well here that you

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Speaker 1: know by our viewpoint, But there are other guys in

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Speaker 1: the market. Matt Moore, it's interesting you bring that up.

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Speaker 1: He's been around the block. He's been a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different places, so that could all come into play as

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Speaker 1: he selects guys to play here. The one thing we know,

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Speaker 1: like I get questions emails and on six ten about

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Speaker 1: getting somebody as a skill set like Watson and and

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Speaker 1: that comes here asked to understand you are not competing

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Speaker 1: a starting job, and this guy's not. He's got a mentor.

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Speaker 1: He's got to do like Fitzpatrick did when he went

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Speaker 1: going to back up Jameis Winston. He knew there was

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Speaker 1: a good chance he was never gonna play. Then Winston

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Speaker 1: got hurt and he started three games. John, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: wrote a lot of stories. Oh oh, I put the okay,

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Speaker 1: can you appreciate it? All? Right? Well they were so

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Speaker 1: here you have the Texans without a first and second

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Speaker 1: I went in Mark with a list us that I

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Speaker 1: had gone on consensus of people that I trust their opinion,

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Speaker 1: beginning with Mike Mayock. And my favorite website, NFL draft

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Speaker 1: scout dot com. Now it's a draft scout dot com.

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Speaker 1: And and so I used ESPN, I used Sporting News,

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Speaker 1: I used all these websites. And took people off of

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Speaker 1: them that used to be in the NFL or media,

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Speaker 1: people I've respected over time, and and I look, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who's the tackle going. It's projected to go in the

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Speaker 1: third or fourth round. And two of them had great combines,

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Speaker 1: Those guys were projected third or fourth rounders, and now

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Speaker 1: they're projected second round because they showed so much athleticism.

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Speaker 1: In Colton Miller six eighth what may end up happening

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Speaker 1: may have shot Orlando Brown, but he can't play left

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Speaker 1: If he's slow, he's weak, and I don't think by

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Speaker 1: you couldn't get a credit card under under his vertical

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Speaker 1: and you just maybe he can play guard or right tackle.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's nimbling enough for right tackle.

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Speaker 1: He's strong and he's smart, and he's big and he

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Speaker 1: can engulf guys, but boy, you put speed rushers out

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Speaker 1: there and they just blow by him. Well, is it

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Speaker 1: possible that he's just a camera though, because Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: pointed out no sacks and sometimes a guy in the

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Speaker 1: college football landscape might perform better than he would in

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Speaker 1: the measurables of the combine. What that does when a

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Speaker 1: back to the tape. You may have your regular guy

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Speaker 1: that scouts that team. You may tell to the three

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Speaker 1: other guys, Okay, I want you watching every one of

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Speaker 1: his games. See if that lack of athleticism manifest itself. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe the pass rushers in the Big twelve are terrible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's good chance of that. But Griffin, they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to go back and watch him. They're gonna have to say, okay, now,

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Speaker 1: how did he shed blockers when they got into and

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Speaker 1: not having a left hand, because they see his incredible speed,

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Speaker 1: his athleticism, his strength with the prosthetic even though he

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Speaker 1: doesn't play with the prosthetic left hand. And I and

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Speaker 1: you and me and John Harris were talking at the

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Speaker 1: combine about a position we each would like to see

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Speaker 1: and John took that situational pass rusher a guy might

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Speaker 1: That's the first thing I thought about. There you got

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Speaker 1: a guy right, there's Stem Griffin and and they finally

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Speaker 1: started writing Jim Abbott stories about him. I noticed one

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Speaker 1: been right up there. It was. The immaculate Reception is

427
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Speaker 1: number eight a ridiculous I'll give you another one that's

428
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Speaker 1: down a little bit, Number six, nineteen eighty one AFC.

429
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Speaker 1: They actually I had to correct them general. They said

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship eighty one Dolphins Chargers. It was a divisional

431
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Speaker 1: playoff game. I know this game, forty one thirty eight

432
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Speaker 1: overtime San Diego wins. It was a great game, great game.

433
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Speaker 1: I would have no problem of it being on the

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Speaker 1: top ten list. You know, you think of that game,

435
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Speaker 1: I think of two things. The lateral attended, the first half,

436
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Kellen Winslow being helped off, totally exhaust iconic

437
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Speaker 1: image in the history of this league. They had The

438
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Speaker 1: Drive as the number ten game in the history of

439
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Speaker 1: the NFL, lay beating the Browns. That's not a top

440
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Speaker 1: ten greatest game. No, it's a great drive, great moment,

441
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: I get it, great comeback, great comeback, But come on,

442
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: that's not one of the greatest games in NFL. They

443
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Speaker 1: should have a top ten on games that have a

444
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: famous name, like the Drive, the fumble, the immaculate Reception,

445
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: games like that, games that have names. So top ten

446
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Speaker 1: games that have names, I'm submitting in general, I want

447
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Speaker 1: to raise all right, these top ten NFL network shows

448
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Speaker 1: that you see were criticizing some of them, why not,

449
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: this is what we do. They had Mount Rushmores. Did

450
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Speaker 1: you see this one? Every team honorable? It's funny because

451
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Speaker 1: he can't really rank you can't really rank the Mount Rushmoors,

452
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: like who is the greatest Amount Rushmore? But I disagreed

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys Mount Rushmore. Let's just start there, since

454
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Speaker 1: you brought it up. They had Staboch Smith, Landry Aikman,

455
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, wait a minute, I hate to say it,

456
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Speaker 1: take off and put in Bob Lily. You put in

457
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Speaker 1: Bob Lily, Okay, And I can't argue with that. But

458
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Speaker 1: I made the point. I said, look, I'm not gonna

459
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Speaker 1: stand on a table for this one, but you almost

460
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Speaker 1: have to have Jerry Jones in a Cowboys Mount Rushmore

461
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Speaker 1: setting because he resurrected the friend I stay with. And

462
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Speaker 1: I hate to argue me. Johnson resurrected I the third

463
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Barry Switzer and Jerry bought the team,

464
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Speaker 1: and look, it was not popular. Fired Landry. I get

465
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Speaker 1: all of that, uh, and I far be it from

466
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Speaker 1: me to be a big proposed dollars was going to

467
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Speaker 1: legal things I didn't know. I want I want to cut.

468
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Speaker 1: They had Broncos and Honorable mentioned Mount Rushmore's, But to

469
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Speaker 1: me general, the Broncos are the one team in the

470
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Speaker 1: league where the gap between whoever is number one on

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Speaker 1: that Mount Rushmore and whoever is number two is the whitest.

472
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Speaker 1: Like I could name a bunch of two three and

473
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Speaker 1: four for the Broncos, there's only one number one in Denver,

474
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Speaker 1: and that's Elway. The rest of him. It's like it's

475
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Speaker 1: hard to come up with a two three and four

476
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Speaker 1: that shine above the rest so much. They didn't have

477
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Speaker 1: the oilers, but I told him, I said, let me

478
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Speaker 1: just talk about the oilers here. You'd have Earl Campbell, right,

479
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: and then you got a lot of Hall of famers

480
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Speaker 1: you got you got Bruce Matthews would have to be

481
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Speaker 1: on there, and then you've got Warren Moon, Mike Mutcheck,

482
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Speaker 1: Curly Cope, Elvin but thee Robert Brazil, bum Phillips would

483
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Speaker 1: have to be on it. You got Earl bum on

484
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Speaker 1: an on an oiler, Mount Rushmore, Warren have to be

485
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Speaker 1: on there, and Bruce Matthews. I think you have to

486
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Speaker 1: have Warren mood on an oiler. Mount Rushmore seven kid

487
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Speaker 1: secutive playoff years. I know they only won three playoff

488
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: games during that span, but still, all right, Texas Mount

489
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Speaker 1: Rushmore go, Andre Johnson. You would have to have h

490
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Speaker 1: First of all, you have to have Bob McNair because

491
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Speaker 1: brought the NFL back to Houston when nobody else wanted. Yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: and until they win multiple Super Bowls and maybe like

493
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, so Sean Watson has three MVPs, he can't

494
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Speaker 1: really bump mister McNair. Everybody said he was crazy for

495
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: spending the money and he contributed to the stadium, so

496
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Speaker 1: he would have to be on there, Andre Johnson JJ.

497
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Speaker 1: And then one more I think he would be Arian Foster.

498
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Speaker 1: That's not a bad pick right there, I think, yeah,

499
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Speaker 1: I think you'd have to say him. It's very it's

500
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Speaker 1: you know, Andrewayne, you know, there are a lot of

501
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Speaker 1: different ways you could go with that that fourth spot.

502
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Speaker 1: I do like doing these things though. This is this

503
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Speaker 1: is kind of interesting to me. Okay, let me ask you. Okay,

504
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: people ask me all the time about greatest taxan as

505
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: we've already talked Andre JJ, I think Arion Dwayne, and

506
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Speaker 1: then it gets to be who's fifth would it be?

507
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: Ja Jonathan Joseph, who's going in has been here six years,

508
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: Owen Daniels, Chester Pitts. There's a lot of candidates, and

509
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Speaker 1: I think that the fifth one would be Jonathan Joseph

510
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Speaker 1: for Owen Daniels. Interesting, Jonathan Joseph signed in twenty eleven.

511
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: They never went to the playoffs without him. You know,

512
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: he's been so important to that defensive backfield as a

513
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: leader to the defense. That's very good. I think that's

514
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: that's a spot where you can make a lot of

515
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: different arguments. You know, I don't think Owen Daniels. He's

516
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Speaker 1: the second leading receiver all time. Actually, DeAndre Hopkins just

517
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: passed him this year. I gotta look that up. He did.

518
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: Didn't be hard to keep DeAndre off. He's been there

519
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: five years. JJ's Ben Wood. It feels like DeAndre has

520
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: got here yet he plays five years and puts up

521
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: unbelievable numbers that rival Adrey Johnson's first five. He'd be

522
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: right there with Jonathan Joseph as a candidate for the

523
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Speaker 1: other one, and he eclipses Andrea's numbers in the first

524
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Speaker 1: five years in certain categories. I mean, that's highly notable,

525
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: right there. There are a lot of ways he can go.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm gonna save some of that for another

527
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Speaker 1: offseason program here, you know, because Matt shops Yeah, I mean,

528
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Speaker 1: Matt shops a top ten player the history of this franchise.

529
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Speaker 1: I know that's not a popular thing to say, but

530
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Speaker 1: look at the numbers over a certain spat. Kay, you

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Speaker 1: brought it up. All right, We've got We've got Andre

532
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Speaker 1: and JJ and we've got Arian, Dwayne, Seo and Daniels,

533
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph. Six. I mentioned Chester is in there. Seven.

534
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Speaker 1: M boy, oh, Deandre's got to be in there. That's

535
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Speaker 1: a Patty Smith popped her head in the door and

536
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: said Brian Cushing, U, he would be in a conversation

537
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: because Bryant, let's see nine nine nine. I'm trying to think, boy,

538
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Matt may have to boy, he may slip in there.

539
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Speaker 1: Number ten. Yeah, he better be in the top ten. Job,

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00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: he's got to be in the top ten. Oh, Demico, Yes,

541
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna bump one of the

542
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: other ten. I think he's got to be in there.

543
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: I mean you know. I am that about Matt. I

544
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: think he's got to be a top ten player in

545
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Speaker 1: the history of this franchise. I mean, look, look at

546
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: what it's not like they went to the Super Bowl.

547
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: I get it. I understand and everybody don't at me.

548
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: I understand it. But he did accomplish some things here.

549
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: All right, General, we got one more segment with you.

550
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll clean something that was fun. Yeah, that was good.

551
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: I might weighing on another top ten or two from

552
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Speaker 1: that NFL Network show. You know, another one. He's about

553
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: to go. He's been here sixth seasons. Shane Lechler. Oh

554
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: that's that's a good one. I'm not going to count

555
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: a specialist. Shane average forty nine yards on gross last

556
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: year and his net was forty one, three and fifty

557
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: seven years old. He fifty eight in August and he

558
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: had thirty two inside the twenty, which is among his

559
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: three best ever and only five touch back. It's amazing.

560
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Speaker 1: One more segment on the way Texans All Access So

561
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: much to do, so little time. Texans All Access here

562
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: on the Hunday Texans Radio studio with the General John

563
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: McClain from the Houston Chronicle joining us and all right,

564
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: a couple of things cleaning up. You know, we're doing

565
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Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore as from those NFL Top ten shows that

566
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Speaker 1: the General and I did in Indy and that morphed

567
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: into Texans Mount Rushmore, which morphed into Texans Top ten Players.

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Speaker 1: And you know we didn't mention Jevon Clowney, Mario Williams.

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Speaker 1: There are a number of players. John, We're not gonna

570
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Speaker 1: get this done today. Okay, I think we just table this.

571
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Speaker 1: We say we're gonna do a show maybe next week,

572
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Speaker 1: maybe the week after where we do Texans Top ten

573
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: players and really dig in because Clowney deserves consideration. It's

574
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: been a couple of really great years. Maybe he doesn't

575
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: deserve that much consideration as far as all time in

576
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: the franchise ability, Yes, body of work probably not there yet.

577
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: Mario Williams put up a nice little body of work here.

578
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: I know we consider it kind of a disappointment considering

579
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: he was the number one overall picking the draft and

580
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: he did not get that second contract. But you get

581
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Speaker 1: my drift. I mean, he sacked a bunch of quarterbacks

582
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Speaker 1: while he was here. So there are a lot of

583
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Speaker 1: things to weigh in on. You you're so determined to

584
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Speaker 1: get mat Shop in that top ten. If you have

585
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Speaker 1: more time to think about it, you'll find a way

586
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: to get the Brockster in there. Yeah. No, I am

587
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: not doing that. I want to get Watson in there.

588
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Watson gets so much credit, you know, Rookie

589
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: of the Year consideration. He wins that award for best

590
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: Road Performance of the year deservedly so, and I'm all

591
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: about it, man, Let's give it to him. It plays

592
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Speaker 1: a half dozen games and plays so well that everyone's

593
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: fallen in love and I love it. But at the combine,

594
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: I knew this would happen. General people start to talk

595
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: to me about well defenses, they're all watching the tape now,

596
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: they're all evaluating. They'll be ready for him. He's not

597
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna do what he did. Look, I don't expect him

598
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: to put up plus points per game. You know, you

599
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: give me, will you put you give me twenty four

600
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: points a game. I'll take it right now, thank you

601
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: very much. You know, I don't know if the averages

602
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: are gonna be, but I think he's gonna have a

603
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: pretty good year. I think he's gonna have a phenomenal

604
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Speaker 1: year if he stays up there. I'll tell you what

605
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm more worried about Watson. I was talking at the

606
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: combine with him and Carson Wentz coming off torn acls,

607
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: and somebody said, tell me a quarterback that a torn

608
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: acl that was real good the year after, and I'll

609
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: bet you that he was better the second year. And

610
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: I said, Okay. A player that flashed through my mind

611
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: was Adrian Peterson coming off his in record time and

612
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: rushing for two thousand yards. But and somebody brought up

613
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Speaker 1: RG three. RG three had two two ligaments that were torn.

614
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Speaker 1: And then his problem wasn't help. It was more of

615
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Speaker 1: scheme and changes and conflict with the coaches that held

616
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: him back. And then remember he broke his ankle I

617
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: think here, and missed another seven games. So it was

618
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Speaker 1: injuries overall. And plus Watson is as much not as

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Speaker 1: reckless as a runner. Right, So those things you mentioned

620
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Speaker 1: about teams watching tape, he did things, and I've talked

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Speaker 1: about this about watching on your website. All of his

622
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: touchdowns and things that he was doing were instinctive. You know,

623
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Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do if you got a dead

624
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: beat on him and you're rushing him and all of

625
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: a sudden he steps to the side. You know, what

626
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Slow down? Right? So I buy that.

627
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Speaker 1: Maybe you think think they can fool him in coverage,

628
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: but so many things he did were instinctive, and I

629
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Speaker 1: don't think there's no remedy for a quarterback. It makes

630
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: great plays by instinct. Well. Also, there's this thing on

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Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot com called Film Room and it's John

632
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: Harrison Drew Doherty watching game film and they have popcorn

633
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Speaker 1: and everything. It's one of the best things on your website.

634
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. And they did the Ryan Griffin touchdown

635
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: in New England and that ball would not have been

636
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: thrown by a lot of quarterbacks. What about the ball

637
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: he just threw across the field for him, it wasn't

638
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: a touchdown all the way across the field. I'll guarantee

639
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: you Bill O'Brien was holding his breath because you tell

640
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: a quarterback never to do that, right. That's one of

641
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: those that may have been his best throw all year.

642
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: It could have been. And coaches have this funny saying

643
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: where it applies to basketball too, when you have like

644
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: some kid like launching a three from outer space and

645
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: you're thinking, no, no, no, yes if he makes the shot,

646
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: And that was a no, no, no yes throw because

647
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: when that balls in the air, you're thinking, there's no

648
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: way this is coming down in a good spot. A still,

649
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: Nanka's best play was the one against Kansas City when

650
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: the guy came free up the middle was about to

651
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: hit his right hand. He then switched it to the lab.

652
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: The guy hits his right hand, the guy goes down,

653
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: he puts it back in his right hand, throws on

654
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: touchdown past the fuller. Yeah, and I think that was

655
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: the one that cut at the twenty six twenty. He

656
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: didn't even know how he did that. I asked him,

657
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: I said, how'd you do that? He said, I looked,

658
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: watched the film and I thought, how did I do that? Yeah? Well,

659
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: like you say, instinctive, he's got the gift. Whatever it is,

660
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: he's got it. And layering that on top of hard work.

661
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, the video that he and wat

662
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: put out really what put it out of the two

663
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: of them at the Houston Methodist Training Center. Rehab Buddies, Yeah,

664
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Speaker 1: Rehabbing Running. We're gonna start a show on Home and

665
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: Garden Network Rehab Buddies. Right after fix her upper, they

666
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: we saw them in the weight room. You see them

667
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: on the field, wat and Watson, the Wattson brothers. I

668
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: guess I don't know. Let me tell you about my

669
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: best friend. Yeah, that's the courtship of Eddie's father. And

670
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: nobody knows the song anymore, you know. It's It's like

671
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: my kids listening to the soundtrack for Trolls and there

672
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: is a song in Trolls. It's a very popular song.

673
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: It's not the Timberlake one, it's another one. And they

674
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: harken back to an old Brady Bunch song. And I said, hey'

675
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: is the Brady Bunch song. My kids looked at me,

676
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: like what who? Oh? Let me tell you what I

677
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: heard on ESPN this week. Got nothing to do with nothing.

678
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: One of their broadcasts was talking about, um, I can't

679
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: even I can't say who it is. No, I don't

680
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: want this was on radio I don't want to be

681
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: He was talking about the guy who's placed Johnny Carson

682
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: took on the tonight show Ed Sullivan. Oh no, he

683
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: did not say, And I kept listening waiting for him

684
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: to go, Oh it wasn't Ed Sullivan. Ed Sullivan had

685
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: a show on CBS on Sunday Night as the most

686
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: watched show in the country, but evidently nobody said it was.

687
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: It was it Jack par Steve Allen. I keep Jack

688
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: Parr started, so maybe it's Steve Allen. Steve Allen not

689
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: as long a run as Jack Parr or Johnny Carson.

690
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: It was not Ed Sullivan. It was Ed Sullivan was

691
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: the sidekick. A lot of people don't use the sidekick.

692
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: An I watched the thing on the Beatles I haven't

693
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: seen and the Beatles were talking they never heard their

694
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: music when they played live because of all the screaming.

695
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: We couldn't hear anything. They had to ring, they had

696
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: to wing it. They had yeah, because you know they

697
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: have things called monitors on stage. Now actually, now you

698
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: have the earpieces. They're all wired in Luke Bryan tonight

699
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: right here at this stadium hill the earpieces in there,

700
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: and he'll be lipsticking, I mean, singing to all his

701
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: greatest hits and be a lot of screaming going on too.

702
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: Oh there will be all right, General, let's get to

703
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: some stuff from around the National Football League and it

704
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: could affect the Texans as free agency frenzy will get

705
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: going next week. But you get some early stuff happening.

706
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: You reported on the Lechler signing today. What about Kirk Cousins,

707
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: John does he definitely going to Minnesota? A lot of

708
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: reports out there that maybe the money's not as good

709
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: for him out there as he was hoping. Who knows.

710
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota appears, based on reports, poised to pay him a

711
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: lot of money. I don't buy the report that said

712
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: he was doing three years ninety one million. Fully guaranteed.

713
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: He's smart. He'll go to Minnesota because he's got the

714
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: best chance to win and not try to be the

715
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: highest paid quarterbacks. To his agent, Ken brag he's got

716
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: a smart agent, Mike McCartney. I think that he wants

717
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: to get him into the right situation. And then what

718
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: happens to case keenom? Does he go to Denver? I

719
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: could see him going there Zona when he was with

720
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: the Rams. I remember reading that he had two or

721
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: three really good games against the Cardinals. And does he

722
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: go there? And then what happens in that domino effect

723
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: A J McCarron. Then you got Sam Bradford, Teddy Bridgewater.

724
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of quarterbacks who want to

725
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: be starters, who are going to be available and now

726
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: they're talking about the Eagles might listen for Nick Foles.

727
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: I still don't buy it, but you would think, right,

728
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: but what would what would you give for a guy

729
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: who excelled in that situation when he was protected in

730
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: the pocket and had two great games? Yeah, I don't

731
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: know what would you give up? A one and two

732
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: and a three or two? I don't think two one

733
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: because I don't think. I don't think Foles is all

734
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: of that. I think he's good and he proved that

735
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: he's good. But you know, you give up a one

736
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: and a two for falls, I don't think it's happening.

737
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: I think two twos, maybe a one or maybe a

738
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Speaker 1: one one, or you give one one, maybe one one

739
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: one for Nick Foles and you'd have to love him

740
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: at that. If case, Keenum ends up in Denver, that

741
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 1: means he's gotten the full endorsement of Gary Kubiak, who's

742
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: in the Broncos organization is And how interesting would that

743
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: be the man who really believed in Keenam from the

744
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: get go and gave him a chance and nurtured him.

745
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: And I know Keena went oh and eight for Kubiak

746
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, but obviously he's turned himself and do

747
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: a much better quarterback. That would be interesting. One of

748
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 1: the reasons Gary got fired was he went back to shop.

749
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: They wanted to see what Kim do the rest of

750
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: the year. I think Keenam needed, maybe needed to sit

751
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: at that point. In some places, you got to be

752
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: careful about an arm because the wind blows a lot.

753
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 1: Like Buffalo can ask to have a quarterback and throw

754
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: the ball Cleveland, But up there you've got the altitude,

755
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: you may have bad weather. I think he would fit

756
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: in really well. But his they would have to tailor

757
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: the system to him, as Pat Shermer did. Shermer did

758
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: an incredible job. Everybody's talking about will the Giants draft

759
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback with their first pick? Second? Overall? Well, I'm

760
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: wondering with Elia not Case wouldn't go there to be

761
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: reunited with Shermer. I still think the best place for

762
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: Case Keenum is theirs on John what about the Colts?

763
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: What are you thinking that they're going to do? You

764
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: think so? Brush the passer Chris Ballard was very optimistic

765
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: about Luck being available for opening day. What about sae

766
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley. I don't want him, indeed, thank you. If

767
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: you you remember how Tennessee started tailoring its drafts for

768
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: what on the right side of its offensive line. M

769
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: the guard Chance Warmack. He couldn't handle it. He was

770
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: a bust. Then they brought in Jack Coughlin and JJ

771
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: has been hurt a lot. But uh, I think if

772
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: you're Indie and you look to the future of the

773
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: AFC South, do you see Deshaun Watson. We better have

774
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: somebody can get after him. And Chub is the best

775
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: defensive player out there along with Maka Fitzpatrick. But they're

776
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: not going to draft him because he used number one

777
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: on the safety last year got hurt. What's his name?

778
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: I forgot the safety was hurt for Colts. Anyway, Bradley

779
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: Chubb is the best pass rusher and I don't Barkley

780
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: man man. That guy's got everything. But in my latest

781
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: mock draft, which I turned in last night that will

782
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: be out today or tomorrow on their website in the

783
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: paper Sunday, I had Barkley going one and them still

784
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: getting Josh Gallen fourth overall. Blake Cooker, Yes, anything else

785
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: jump out at you about the AFC South when you're

786
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: at the cobby talking to people. Tennessee is gonna be

787
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: less active in free agency and focus more on the draft.

788
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: They're looking for defense, specifically pass rushing, three or four

789
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: outside linebackers. For Mike Vrabel, Indie is looking for impact

790
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: player high like Chubb or Barkley and in Jacksonville, UM,

791
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Jaguars are looking at because

792
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: they pick so low. They've committed to Blake Bortles. But

793
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: to me, they've got to do more in their offensive

794
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: line because they don't need anything on defense. They need

795
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: to work on the offense. They have two receivers Allen

796
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: Robinson Marquis Lee who are unrestricted. Some people have them

797
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: taking a tight end down there because that's where the

798
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: tight ends are Worth Sanders and Hearst and Goddard, and

799
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: so I think I have them taking an offensive lineman.

800
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: All the free agents you talk, we've been doing the

801
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: backup quarterback market. We mentioned it earlier in the show.

802
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: It's good to be a backup quarterback, a so called

803
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, to be labeled as such, because hey, teams

804
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: need good ones. It's been proven you can win with them,

805
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: and the cap went up. The market's gonna be pretty

806
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: good for these guys. As we speak right now. The

807
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: Texans of sixty six million under the cap. You know

808
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: you don't spend all that. But one of the good

809
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: things about not having a one in two, I believe

810
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to earmark your draft pool, which comes

811
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: out of your cap. You're not gonna have set aside

812
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: money for a one and a two, So could you

813
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: conceivably take the money that would have been used in

814
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: the draft pool? Signed two players? Baby general? What's going

815
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Speaker 1: out of the Chronicle? I heard Mark draft Aaron Wilson.

816
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: I will have new ones up on kron dot com

817
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: and in the paper, and he's working. Aaron's been working

818
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: a while on the story. I think we'll run next

819
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: week talking to people who have watched Brian gain through

820
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: the years and what they think that Brian will do

821
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Speaker 1: as a general manager. I've got Sunday about all about

822
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: started free agency. Legal tampering is Monday. Tell you what

823
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing this weekend. I'm going to West Palm Beach

824
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: to watch the Astros. Nice, enjoy yourself. Thanks very much, Mark.

825
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: That's John McClay from the Houston Chronicle. Patti Smith has

826
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Speaker 1: popped in as well. It's always great to see her.

827
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Speaker 1: Still basking in the globe of the Houston Sports Awards

828
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: and working the rodeo here Luke Bran tonight, as we

829
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: said tomorrow night, John Harris on the show, and John Purgato,

830
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: senior defensive assistant for the Texans. He'll be on the

831
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Speaker 1: show tomorrow as well. Thank you Right for producing Gallant

832
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Speaker 1: at Night is next. Go Texans.