WEBVTT - LISTEN | Draft Pick Profile - Cameron Clark (5/18) 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.880 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast, the 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:10.080 Draft Pick Profile series presented by Verizon. Continuing on here, 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.600 Bethan Greenberg e A breaking down jets third and final 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:19.040 fourth round pick, Charlotte's Cameron Clark and offensive lineman play 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.759 Tackle like College. You're gonna hear from Joe Douglas and 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.960 his staff in this podcast on what they like about Clark, 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.120 why he's a good fit for the Jets. You're also 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.240 gonna hear from somebody that covered Cam Clark at Charlotte. 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.360 That's David Scott of the Charlotte Observer. But e A. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.360 Cam Clark was the third and final pick that the 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.879 Jets had in the fourth round. Remember they had one 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:43.760 twenty one, twenty nine, and Joe Douglas, true to his word, 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.200 alects to add to the offensive line yet again. Yeah, 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.440 so we go back to free agency and we think 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:55.000 about Connor mcgover and Greg Van Roten, of course, George 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.920 Fant at the tackle position, and Joe Douglass first all 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.600 verall draft pick as general manager of the New York Jets. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:07.000 Of course, McKay Beckton number eleven overall selection in the draft. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.319 And then he continues to add to the offensive line 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:16.240 in the fourth round with an interesting player in Cameron Clark. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.200 Because Clark is a guy who played tackle at the 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:24.080 collegiate level. A lot of people who you have heard 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.679 speak about him think that actually down the line, maybe 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.800 he projects more on the interior. But again, it kind 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.280 of fits the criteria of a Joe Douglas type player 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.920 is he's got a mean streak, he plays nasty, uh, 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:44.520 and he has position flexibility. So Joe Douglas never was 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:49.320 rested on his laurels with that offensive line and he continued, uh, 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.560 he continued to work on it here on draft weekend 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.760 with the addition to Clark and Cam Clark talking about 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.720 fitting the bill of the criteria of what Joe Douglas 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:03.280 wants two times captain for Charlotte, So clearly another guy 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.320 that adds to this fabric of the culture that Joe 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.320 Douglas is trying to establish here. And let's hear from 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.600 Joe doug Ion his staff on what they like about 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:19.440 Cam Clark. Yeah, big Cam brings mentality, toughness, leadership. When 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.639 we talk about grit, when we talk about guys that's 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.680 strained to finish every play, that's big Camp. One of 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.760 our scouts that he was. He was a high school 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.440 oh American at center. So a guy you're talking about 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.239 versatility flexibility when we feel like he's a guy that 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.040 could give us that kind of flexibility moving forward and 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:40.240 the right type of person and competitor as well. So 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.440 we see him as being able to have the versatility 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.240 of play both tackle positions in terms of a swing role. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.760 And then he's also shown traits for a guard in 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.399 terms of his physicality and finish that projects inside. He's 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.120 got a good size, he's got a good ability to 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.720 play balanced and stay balanced within a play that will 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.079 help inside if he needs to move inside the guard 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.040 for us. So he's showed the traits to be able 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.240 to handle both guard and tackle for us. Yeah, I 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.400 think with Cam. You know, our scouts who saw him 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.360 in the fall had solid grades on him. And then 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.400 he was another player that was at the East West 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.680 Shrine game and we interviewed him a number of times. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:16.720 But I think what we really like about him the 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.239 most is the fact that he's versatile. Even though he's 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.280 played left tackle in college, he's lined up as a 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.960 right tackle. He even played offensive center in high school, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:30.320 so he may give us three position flexibility in terms 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.520 of center, guard, and tackle, with the upside to perhaps 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:37.120 becoming a starter. One of his college coaches, you know, 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.000 they had a lot of different staffs there, and especially 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.440 in that offensive line room at Charlotte, but one of 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.800 his former coaches was on our staff with the Arizona 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.320 hot Shots last year when I was part of the 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.960 Alliance of American Football, and he really thought the world 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.400 of Cam Clark in terms of his potential in the NFL. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.400 And again, another player that adds to the sort of 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.360 the fabric of our team. There will obviously obviously be 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.880 an adjustment in terms of the height, weight and speed 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.040 of some of the guys that he will be going against. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.320 But you know, he played against Clemson in his career, 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.800 He played against Tennessee in his career, so there were 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.160 glimpses of him going against higher level competition and he 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:22.080 was clearly a player that belonged at another level in 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.960 terms of his college career. I mean that that's the thing. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.720 You know, we watched these games on Sunday nights and 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:32.160 Monday nights Oftentimes, when the guys give the starting lineup 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.880 and they announced the school that they're from, there are 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.679 a lot of players from places like Charlotte in southern 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:41.159 Mississippi and Grand Valley State and places that you know 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.320 typically aren't football factories. And I think one of the 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.599 real benefits have taken a player like a Cam Clark 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.599 or even a James Morgan from f i U is 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.680 the fact that you know they figured out how to 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:58.800 maximize their potential at that level in regards to nutrition, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.080 strengthen can aiually working on the field without having every 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.680 bell and whistle that you'll find at some of the 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.440 major schools that are essentially football factory. So I love 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.920 that dynamic of some of these players and that they've 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.360 had to figure some of this stuff out on their 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.680 own without having everything laid out for him. Over the 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.800 last three or four years, lots of great stuff from 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.360 Joe Douglas, Rex Hogan and Phil Savage is always e 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.640 when you look at Cam Clark's career at Charlotte, I 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.120 mean something that stands out to me. How often do 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.800 you see a guy that plays on the old line 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.920 ends up being the offensive team m v P. How often, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.960 I'd say, I've never heard of that before ever on 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.480 the collegiate level. That jumps out at everybody when you're 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:50.679 going through somebody's bio, and in two thousand seventeen he's 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.719 the offensive team on PP So that kind of gives 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:59.080 you an indication of how highly regarded he was on campus. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.159 And then in two thousand eighteen and two thousand nineteen, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:07.599 like you said, a team captain, and he was a 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.520 left tackle last couple of seasons. What started twelve games 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.320 at left tackle in two thousand and eighteen and a 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:20.000 thirteen more at left tackle. All Conference USA First Team Performer, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:25.279 last year Intangibles with the captain accolaides one of the 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.920 most decorated players ever to play at Charlotte. So cam 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:33.440 Clark is a four year starter at left tackle. And 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.120 we heard Joe Douglas and Phil Savage talk about this 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.760 a little bit, but in high school, cam Clark actually 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.720 played center as well in addition to left tackles, so 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.040 while in college he only played left tackle. It's been 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.240 a little while since cam Clark has played anywhere else 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:53.240 except that position. But when you talk about position versatility 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.240 at the next level, the fact that cam Clark has 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.920 the first satility to play either tackle position and set 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.360 and potentially either guard. I mean Phil Savage said this 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:08.920 when we heard him say he offers for position versatility 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.280 for the Jets. I think that's very rare, and to 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:12.880 take a fire on a guy like this in the 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.400 fourth round, I think it makes a whole lot of 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.680 sense for the Jets. Yeah, Clark played forty nine games 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:23.280 at Charlotte. The last thirty one were consecutive starts at 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.320 left tackle to end his college career. And you mentioned 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:32.560 the position flexibility. Uh, smaller school Charlotte, But a lot 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.800 of people thought he stepped up and was able to 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:41.280 play well when Charlotte matched up with Cleanson one side 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.120 of the fair fifty two to ten. But scouts are 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:49.000 looking at the individual prospects and I think he jumped 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:53.480 on people's radar the way he played there. So he's 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:58.560 a long guy, he has more ability to put on 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.920 some more weight. At say, last year he's playing under 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.040 three pounds. I know what the combine he was, what 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.760 three oh seven or three oh eight, But he has 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:11.920 more wait possibly to put on that frame, especially if 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:16.440 you're gonna move him inside the guard position. And again, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.239 he's walking into a good situation because Cam Clark walks 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.560 into a situation where he doesn't have to be a starter, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.240 right away, but Greens, if you draft somebody in the 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.000 fourth round, there's no doubt about it. The Jets ultimately 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.120 view this guy as a starter down the line. So 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.080 let me just read some of his measurables here. When 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.199 you talk about hand size and you talk about wingspan, well, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.760 let me just compare this to McKay Beckton. McKay Beckton 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:48.160 has ten and three quarters hands along with a eighty 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.520 three and a quarter inch wingspan. And then you think 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:56.119 about a guy like Cameron Clark. His hands are myths. Okay, 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.280 they're eleven inch hands, which is bigger than McKay act 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:04.240 and and his wingspan is eighty two and three quarters long. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.439 So he might not be the six seven three d 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.280 sixty four pound monster that McKay Beckton is, But Cam 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.839 Clark offers a lot of good measurables that stand up 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.600 to a pro tackle or potentially a pro guard in 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:21.800 the NFL long arms tough. One thing that you're gonna 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.160 watch out for early in his career is to see 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.360 if he is on the edge and he's playing the 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.000 tackle position, is how does he deal with the speed 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.680 of the edge rushers in the National Football League And 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.680 how is he going to adapt in terms of his feet, 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.680 those are things that Cam Clark is going to be 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.280 working on early on in his career. But in terms 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.719 of upper body strength, people really like where he's at. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:56.240 And also he's considered a prospect who's pretty polished. He's 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.600 a guy who understands the way defend is how they're 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.920 trying to attack. When you're talking about Cam Clark who 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:09.480 trained with McKay Beckton in the off season in Dallas, 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.760 and those two kinds of fed off each other, I 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:16.000 think that's just a great backstory because little did those 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.800 guys know that they would be joining the same team 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:24.520 just weeks or months later. For more on Clark, let's 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.520 hear from Olivia land Is, who caught up with David Scott, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:32.040 who covers Charlotte for the Charlotte Observer. David, the New 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.040 York Jets drafted offensive lineman Cameron Clark in the fourth 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.959 round of the NFL Draft. You have covered him for 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.800 a while now. He's only one of two players out 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.760 of Charlotte that was drafted this season. What makes him 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.760 so special, Well, Olivia, he's been a guy who's been 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.280 with the program obviously for five years, was with the 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:58.640 program for five years and and really progressed UM as 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.080 as his career one a law kind of like the 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:05.080 program did. Charlotte's only had a football team for seven years, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.280 so he was one of the first couple of recruiting 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.600 classes at the school even had so when he came in, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.840 he was he was more of a FCS kind of 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.520 prospect rather than an FBS guy UM and so he 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.600 made a whole lot of progress going going through his career, 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.600 as did the program, which had their first winning season 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.440 in school history last year and went to a bowl 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.920 game for the first year. So he kind of mirrored 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.640 what's been happening at Charlotte. UM took great leaps his 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:38.240 senior year and new coaching staff, new offensive coordinator, UM, 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.320 offensive line coach who was the same guy UM, and 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.120 he really UM managed to h to bloom under that. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.560 Speaking of development, this was a team and an offense 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.960 that was ranked his conference USA's top offense in twenty nineteen. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:12:00.080 How did Cameron Clark contribute to that? Well, he the 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.520 the the offense changed when Will Healey, the new coach, 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.960 came in. Obviously, UM they ran more of a spread 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:12.360 type of offense UM shotgun UM formations. Most of the time, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.760 so he had to be really They had mobile quarterback 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.240 name of kid named Chris Reynolds who who could really 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.640 move around in the pocket and make things happen with 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.400 his arm and his legs. So the offensive line had 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.679 to um be mobile and be able to move around, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.319 and Cam was able to do that as as a tackle. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.800 Um And I think that's one thing that will probably 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.679 help him in in the NFL if they move him 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.120 to guard like they say they might because of his size. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.760 He's got the food work and has the ability and 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.000 the agility to move around. Um And, I think that's 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.199 going to help him. But yeah, Charlotte's. Charlotte's offense was 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:53.520 kind of a spread um um offense with the quarterback 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.960 who was really mobile and could move around. And so 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.320 when your pockets moving around like that, that's a challenge 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.400 for the offensive line, and Can was one of the 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.600 guys who was able to really take advantage of that, 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.520 not take advantage of it, but adjust to it and 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:10.559 and do it well. David actually spoke with Cameron after 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.760 he got drafted, and he kind of voiced what you 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.680 were just talking about about how he's very versatile along 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.480 the line, But where do you see him being best 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.000 suited along the offensive line at the next level. Well, 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.560 that's hard for me to say, but I think what 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:30.480 I've heard and makes sense is is he probably doesn't 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.920 have a size for an NFL tackle right now. UM, 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:37.400 a guard might make more sense for him. Um that 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.400 that happened last year with the forty Niners had had 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.800 a player named Nate Davis who was drafted and he 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.920 was a tackle um in college, was drafted by the Titans, 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.319 is now their starting right guard. I think there's a 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.160 lot of similarities between the two of them, and I 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.760 think that's probably what will happen because he's got the skills, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.120 he's got the footwork, He certainly has the intellect that 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.319 he could probably change up positions, but has at the 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.640 size issue, it sounds like moving to the guard makes 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:08.240 most sense. Well, when we think about his size, and 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.679 you think when we talk about where he might be 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.280 best suited along the lines, when you look at his 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.480 skill set, is he more developed in pass protection or 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.280 the run blocking game? Probably pass protection. Their run they 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.800 they run blocking. They had a great running back and 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.920 kidney named Benny LeMay And again a lot of the 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:34.160 times when they used him. UM, it was out of 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.680 a spread formation, shotgun kind of thing, and so it 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.680 wasn't you get traditional, um, you know, line them up 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.360 and knock them down kind of things. So Cam is 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.320 not probably used to that as much as he used 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.920 to being able to move around the pass protecting thing. 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:49.200 He had to. He had to do a lot of 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.680 things differently because of the kind of style offensive the 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.320 offense they played. So I think he's probably more ready 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.840 for that with his agility, UM, footwork, how he uses 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.320 his hands, UM, and you know he's gonna have to 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.520 probably bulk up and get a little stronger to really 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.960 to help out in the running game more. He didn't 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.160 play against a lot of top top competition throughout his career. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.960 UM in confidence usa UM. The one thing that that 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.600 you can say for him. And a couple of the 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.320 other guys who got drafted by Charlotte Alex Heismith the 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.240 defensive end, and then lay who I was telling you about, 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.560 who signed an undrafted free agent. They played Clemson back 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.520 in September when they were ranked number one, and and 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.840 those guys, I mean, obviously they wanted to win the game, um, 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.840 which which they were not able to. Obviously, it was 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.080 like fifty five to ten or something. But they wanted 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.760 to use that game as an opportunity to show that 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.880 they could play well in as individuals against top competition. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.400 And I think he was able to do that and 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.120 and I think that's one thing that's going to help 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.680 him his confidence as he moves to the NFL to 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.600 the next level, knowing that he can line up against 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.280 the best players in the country, UM and hold his 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:02.400 own And he did that against against Clemson. Diving a 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.880 little bit deeper into Cameron Clark as an individual, he 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.920 was the offensive m v P, the team offensive MVP 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.160 in ten, which is very rare for an offensive lineman. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.360 But how does that speak to his ability and his 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:19.840 leadership on that team? Just just a great kid. Um. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.760 You know, as a reporter, you you look who you 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.400 always want to have a guy who can go to 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.960 for a good quota to explain things to you, UM, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.720 And and Cam was that guy. Um. He kind of 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.880 has one of these magnetic kind of personalities that draw 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.120 people to him. He was one of the players that 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.040 came to the press conferences, UM more often than not, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.320 chosen by the coaches that come and speak to the media. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.520 And you know, really articulate, funny. Um always had a 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.160 good take on things. So I think that's one thing 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:49.800 that Jessy are going to get from him as is 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.800 a guy Um who I think people are going to 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.440 really be drawn to, and I think he can really 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.920 mold himself into being one of the team's leaders. He ain't. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.200 Now let's talk about where Clark fits in with this 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.880 offensive line, and we've mentioned his position versatility before well 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.879 from a thirty thousand foot view, when you add McKay, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.040 Beckton and Cameron Clark to the mix of what Joe 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:20.360 Douglas already did in free agency. But really, I think 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.960 what stands out is the versatility of all of the 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.920 players that Joe Douglas has brought in. It's just so 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.359 much more solidified than two thousand nineteen last season that 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:36.840 Jets started eleven different players up front, nine different starting 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.920 line combinations. You knew Joe Douglas was going to emphasize 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:45.560 the offensive line in the off season. He's done just that, 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.640 and we can work our way from left to right 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:53.040 if you want. Because McKay backed in, you know he's 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.240 gonna play one of those tackle positions. Is gonna be 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:59.320 left tackle or right tackle. Who knows George Bant he 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.359 is the bill need to play both and he did 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.600 just that in Seattle Chuma Adoga. He's a guy I 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.160 think you play on either side. And then you had 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.200 Cameron Clark to the mix, and then on the interior 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:16.120 got Jonathan Harrison, Connor McGovern. Both of those guys can 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.520 play center, but they can play guard. Greg Van Rotten, 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:24.520 Alex Lewis, Brian Winners is still on the roster. You 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.080 have those guys all on the interior, so you have 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:32.399 position flexibility, you have depth. Joe Douglas and made no 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.760 bones about it, the best five are going to play. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.840 So with that being said, I don't think we should 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.800 and make it too caught up in while is he 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.320 gonna be left guard, right guard, whatever, Joe Douglas is 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.200 going to get his best five out there on the field. 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.960 You know Beckton's going to be a tackle. You know 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.920 fans going to be a tackle. But in Cameron Clark's case, 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.440 it's how can you help you adopt? Why is early 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:04.600 on and where is he going to fit in early 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.959 on in his NFL career? Is it on the inside 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.639 or is it potentially at right tackle? Like you mentioned 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.560 at the start of the podcast, just because he played 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.840 left tackle Charlotte does not mean that the Jets aren't 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.879 going to start him actually on the right side to 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:23.520 begin his NFL career. Yeah, I think really what stands out, 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.040 and I want to reiterate that I agree with you, 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.320 we're not going to project who will play at what 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.520 spot across the starting five. But I think really what 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.919 stands out with all the versatility and the players that 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.840 were brought in, is that if something happened like last year, 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.080 the injury bug really hit the offensive line. But if 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:44.640 something like that were to happen this year, I think 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.919 the Jet would be in a much better spot because 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.000 of the background of all these players that we've mentioned 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:53.240 and the versatility that they have to offer. Where for example, 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.760 last year, Brandon Shell, who has never played left tackle 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.320 in his pro career, had to switch from the right 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.040 side to the left side, and then Chuma Adoga, who 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.240 had been a right tackle at USC, ended up playing 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.199 some left tackle. Last year, there were so many moving 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.520 pieces for the Jets. But I think that if something 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.320 happened this year where somebody got hurt, the transition would 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.280 be a little more seamless because that player and theory 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:20.480 would have already had experience on the pro level at 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:25.120 that position. I agree, because that's the way Joe Douglas 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:29.159 is building this thing. It's he's very strategic. Yeah, he 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:33.600 wants to get better in the starting lineup, but he 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.159 has to provide depth as well. You never want to 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.560 go through another season again if you're Joe Douglas where 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:45.040 you do have nine different offensive line combinations. And he 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.280 said he was gonna embrace Sam Donald. He definitely has 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:52.679 done that. Now where you're setting yourself up is Sam 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.480 Donald is going to have potentially more time to throw, 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.520 and also Lean was gonna have more holes in the 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:04.080 run game. And finally that's also gonna set up your 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:07.520 play action game. So a lot of things working in 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.640 the jets favor right now. Now. The challenge, Ethan is 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.240 how quickly can these guys come together because this is 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.280 an unprecedented offseason and the Jets have gone through a 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:23.359 virtual offseason program. And while it's been beneficial and while 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:27.640 those guys are trying to get acclimated with each other, 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.960 there's so many new pieces here and it's going to 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:36.080 be a challenge because the Jets this spring won't have 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.080 the opportunity to be on the field together and the 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:44.080 offensive line, as you know, it's all about coesion and 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:48.040 continuity and how quickly can these guys get up to speed. Yeah, 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:52.080 I think the last point is really important here, because 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.040 when you talk to different guys, whether it's Sam Donald 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.600 or even somebody like George Fan who we recently caught 0:21:57.680 --> 0:21:59.760 up with, they're all saying, well, yeah, you know, I'm 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.480 trying to reach out to the players and the new teammates, 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.760 and the options are just kind of limited. I mean, 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.080 it's basically like trying to catch up with your friend 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.879 who lives across the country and you're limited to text 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.560 or phone call or FaceTime. But the only difference here 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:16.840 is for the majority of the players, especially on the 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:20.359 offensive line, everybody's meeting each other for the first time. 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.080 And that's including Sam Donald. And even when you think 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.600 about the playmakers, that's a whole other story. So I 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:29.200 think it's gonna be very interesting not only for the Jets, 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.600 but really the entire league and kind of see what 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:34.959 the ripple effect of that is. And the long story 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.080 short here is that with the Cameron Clark addition, the 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.720 Jets offensive line basically has another tool to play with, 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.440 and that they're in a better spot than they were 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.400 when they drafted McKay Peckton. And they're in a totally 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.760 different spot than where they were before the draft, and 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:54.040 even different spot to where they were compared to the 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.560 end of the two thousand nineteen season. But Joe Douglas, 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.280