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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast, the

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Speaker 1: Draft Pick Profile series presented by Verizon. Continuing on here,

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Speaker 1: Bethan Greenberg e A breaking down jets third and final

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick, Charlotte's Cameron Clark and offensive lineman play

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Speaker 1: Tackle like College. You're gonna hear from Joe Douglas and

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Speaker 1: his staff in this podcast on what they like about Clark,

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Speaker 1: why he's a good fit for the Jets. You're also

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Speaker 1: gonna hear from somebody that covered Cam Clark at Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: That's David Scott of the Charlotte Observer. But e A.

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Speaker 1: Cam Clark was the third and final pick that the

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Speaker 1: Jets had in the fourth round. Remember they had one

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Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty nine, and Joe Douglas, true to his word,

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Speaker 1: alects to add to the offensive line yet again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we go back to free agency and we think

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Speaker 1: about Connor mcgover and Greg Van Roten, of course, George

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Speaker 1: verall draft pick as general manager of the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: Of course, McKay Beckton number eleven overall selection in the draft.

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Speaker 1: And then he continues to add to the offensive line

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Speaker 1: in the fourth round with an interesting player in Cameron Clark.

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Speaker 1: Because Clark is a guy who played tackle at the

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Speaker 1: collegiate level. A lot of people who you have heard

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Speaker 1: he projects more on the interior. But again, it kind

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Speaker 1: of fits the criteria of a Joe Douglas type player

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Speaker 1: is he's got a mean streak, he plays nasty, uh,

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Speaker 1: and he has position flexibility. So Joe Douglas never was

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Speaker 1: rested on his laurels with that offensive line and he continued, uh,

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Speaker 1: he continued to work on it here on draft weekend

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Speaker 1: with the addition to Clark and Cam Clark talking about

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Speaker 1: fitting the bill of the criteria of what Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: wants two times captain for Charlotte, So clearly another guy

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Speaker 1: that adds to this fabric of the culture that Joe

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Speaker 1: Joe doug Ion his staff on what they like about

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Speaker 1: Cam Clark. Yeah, big Cam brings mentality, toughness, leadership. When

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Speaker 1: we talk about grit, when we talk about guys that's

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Speaker 1: our scouts that he was. He was a high school

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Speaker 1: versatility flexibility when we feel like he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: the right type of person and competitor as well. So

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Speaker 1: we see him as being able to have the versatility

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Speaker 1: And then he's also shown traits for a guard in

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Speaker 1: terms of his physicality and finish that projects inside. He's

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Speaker 1: play balanced and stay balanced within a play that will

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Speaker 1: for us. So he's showed the traits to be able

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Speaker 1: think with Cam. You know, our scouts who saw him

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Speaker 1: he was another player that was at the East West

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Speaker 1: But I think what we really like about him the

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Speaker 1: so he may give us three position flexibility in terms

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Speaker 1: of Cam Clark in terms of his potential in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And again, another player that adds to the sort of

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Speaker 1: the fabric of our team. There will obviously obviously be

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Speaker 1: But you know, he played against Clemson in his career,

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Speaker 1: when you look at Cam Clark's career at Charlotte, I

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Speaker 1: And then in two thousand eighteen and two thousand nineteen,

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Speaker 1: we heard Joe Douglas and Phil Savage talk about this

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Speaker 1: when we heard him say he offers for position versatility

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Speaker 1: he's walking into a good situation because Cam Clark walks

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Speaker 1: into a situation where he doesn't have to be a starter,

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Speaker 1: fourth round, there's no doubt about it. The Jets ultimately

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Speaker 1: let me just read some of his measurables here. When

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Speaker 1: those are things that Cam Clark is going to be

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Speaker 1: And also he's considered a prospect who's pretty polished. He's

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Speaker 1: hear from Olivia land Is, who caught up with David Scott,

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Speaker 1: who covers Charlotte for the Charlotte Observer. David, the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets drafted offensive lineman Cameron Clark in the fourth

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Speaker 1: round of the NFL Draft. You have covered him for

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Speaker 1: so special, Well, Olivia, he's been a guy who's been

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Speaker 1: that was ranked his conference USA's top offense in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: How did Cameron Clark contribute to that? Well, he the

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Speaker 1: the the offense changed when Will Healey, the new coach,

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Speaker 1: Um And I think that's one thing that will probably

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