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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the Almost Famous podcast. Today,

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Speaker 2: I have the cast of Suckers, the newly branded podcast.

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Speaker 3: Formally known as.

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Speaker 2: Help I Suck At Dating and then also formally known

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Speaker 2: as Help I Suck at Being Newlyweds.

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Speaker 3: That name was really rough.

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Speaker 2: It was a very niche audience, so we've changed it

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Speaker 2: to just Suckers. That is my husband's podcast, along with

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Speaker 2: Dean and Kaylen Bell, who sit across the table from us.

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Speaker 2: I know that we're at Gary and Teresa's wedding right now,

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Speaker 2: and Kaylen needs to go get her makeup done, as

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Speaker 2: do I in about an hour. So I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to present this one question before Kaylen gets out of

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Speaker 2: here and then we can let the.

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Speaker 3: Men continue to debate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but so this wedding sparked some conversation between Jared

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Speaker 2: and I because I was like, what's the rush? Like

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Speaker 2: why are they why are theytting married? You know, like

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Speaker 2: why do they have to get married now? Like they've

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Speaker 2: known each other for four or five months, Like they're

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Speaker 2: not trying to have kids, Like they don't know each other,

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Speaker 2: you know, and then that evolved into I was like like, also, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't know that I would

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Speaker 2: need the companionship at a certain age.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I would be widowed widowed at

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Speaker 2: a certain page? Yes, yes, yes, yes, and sorry, I

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Speaker 2: do need to hurry up and get to that. But

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Speaker 2: Jared and I had this conversation about at what age morbid?

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Speaker 2: But if one of you died, would you say that?

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Speaker 2: Like I want my husband to not mourn me for wherever,

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Speaker 2: but I want him to go find someone else. And

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Speaker 2: then is there an age where you'd be like, no,

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Speaker 2: you don't need that.

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Speaker 4: I I say, you can mourn me for three years

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Speaker 4: and then you can move on three years, be alone

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Speaker 4: for three years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no matter what the age.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think because and watching The Golden Bachelor and

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Speaker 4: and the women talking about this, they're like, we're so

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Speaker 4: often overlooked. It just makes me feel like, you're never

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Speaker 4: not gonna want that companionship.

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Speaker 5: She wants me to die alone, Okay, I'm not joking.

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Speaker 5: She never wants me to be with anybody.

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Speaker 2: That is an absolute lie. We said this, we established

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Speaker 2: If we established this, wait, why are you coming at

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Speaker 2: me so high, so weird, we stot you were the one.

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Speaker 3: First off, I was like, don't worry all alone care.

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: And I I said that at forty five and below,

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Speaker 2: I would definitely want you to move on. And I

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Speaker 2: guess forty five sounds.

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Speaker 6: Really forty six. Guys. Sorry, I'm okay anything.

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Speaker 2: I don't know because I feel baby, just in myself

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Speaker 2: that I'm like, I have my kids, I'm not gonna need.

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Speaker 3: Your kids are going to be out of the house

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Speaker 3: at that time. Yeah, and you're going to be even

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Speaker 3: little know then you know, my sister and I are

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Speaker 3: just going to live together.

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Speaker 5: The point of this was that my so my grandmother

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Speaker 5: passed away to the the thirteen. My grandfather passed away

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two, so he had nine years afterwards,

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Speaker 5: and they've been married for sixty years and he was

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Speaker 5: still in love with her and he was but like

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Speaker 5: he got caught making out with the neighbor who was also.

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Speaker 3: Uh he was like in his eighties.

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Speaker 5: They were both in their eighties, like both had their

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Speaker 5: significant others. I know, I thought it was the cutest thing.

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Speaker 5: And then Ashley was like, no, it is cute when

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Speaker 5: it's grampy. You said it was gross.

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Speaker 3: No, he didn't. You are having.

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Speaker 6: Anyway anyway, But you said that you never like because

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Speaker 6: you were.

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Speaker 3: I think that's funny.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that I would need I don't think

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Speaker 2: I would have that desire personally.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what I'm saying anymore, what would

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Speaker 6: you think?

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Speaker 5: I think, of course, like if I I mean, I

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Speaker 5: hope that we both live long lives, but if I

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Speaker 5: were to die, I would want you, of course to

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Speaker 5: be sad. But I also don't want you to not

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Speaker 5: at some point move on with your life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I'm just like wondering if it's

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Speaker 5: Point you said specifically you because I was like, I

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Speaker 5: would want you to find somebody else, and you're like,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't want that. I want you to think about it.

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Speaker 3: No, I said, I want you to think about me forever.

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Speaker 6: Well, you said you never want me to be with someone.

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Speaker 2: Else, which I literally just said that, like at forty

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Speaker 2: five or younger, I would definitely want you to find

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Speaker 6: You have sobody.

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Speaker 7: Jared, Wait, I've got a question.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not saying like obviously I don't like.

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Speaker 2: I think, like, yeah, like you probably should, but I

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Speaker 2: also like I get emotional thinking about it.

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Speaker 7: So can we just get one number if if your

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Speaker 7: significant other dies, I'm sorry, if you die, how long

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Speaker 7: until you're significant other you would give their blessing to

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Speaker 7: date again? As a ghost?

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Speaker 3: I would just a number.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to hear anything. Just a number, just

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Speaker 7: a number, nothing else.

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Speaker 6: I'd say a year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, in a year, that's wait a year before dating

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Speaker 2: someone else.

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Speaker 3: For you, that's you, for you? But I think I

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Speaker 3: think I say two to three for Jared for Jared.

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Speaker 7: Okay, now let me yeah, that's like if you die. Okay, now,

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Speaker 7: let me ask you this question because this I think

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Speaker 7: is interesting as well, because it because not all heartbreak

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Speaker 7: ends with death. If you guys got divorced, God forbid,

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Speaker 7: how long would you love?

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make it changes the whole scenario, of course.

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Speaker 7: But like you would, it absolutely does. How long after

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Speaker 7: a divorce? And again, I don't think this is ever

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Speaker 7: gonna happen, but like you know, it happens. How long

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Speaker 7: would you be like not comfortable with but like not

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Speaker 7: side eyeing him being in a relationship after your divorce probably,

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Speaker 7: I don't think it would also a similar amount of time.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it would ever. See that makes it

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Speaker 5: different for me, because then it would just I'm assuming

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Speaker 5: that if we ever did get divorced, which hopefully we won't,

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Speaker 5: that it would not end well because I can't imagine

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Speaker 5: there'd ever be a time where we were just falling,

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Speaker 5: where we were so out of love, out of love

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Speaker 5: that we ended up getting divorced and it was amicable.

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Speaker 3: You mean, so it would all be very.

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Speaker 6: I think it would we end up getting divorced, it

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Speaker 6: would be bad.

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Speaker 3: So then what are you saying.

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Speaker 6: That I think like it would just never.

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Speaker 7: And the reason I asked that question because if I

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Speaker 7: were to die, I would be I would want Kaitlyn

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Speaker 7: to be in a relationship the next day if she

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Speaker 7: felt comfortable. If you died, I would want her to

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Speaker 7: get ready for it.

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Speaker 2: Probably is all about me because I don't like I

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Speaker 2: hated dating. I never liked anyone, so I think that

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Speaker 2: like I would never really seek it out. I think

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Speaker 2: that's probably where it comes down to. But if it

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Speaker 2: came into my lap, then I.

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Speaker 3: Would probably be total that's probably.

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Speaker 6: What it is with.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me, thank you.

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Speaker 3: So much for being here.

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Speaker 6: Yes, make sure you guys listen.

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Speaker 2: To I think that like I think it's the seeking

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Speaker 2: out thing that actually would like would be like the

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Speaker 2: more hurtful thing if.

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Speaker 3: I died, Like you getting excited to date again, I.

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Speaker 6: Think I don't think I would get excited.

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Speaker 7: No, that'd be it'd be the noestit of excitement. It'd

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Speaker 7: be dread But you, like, out of necessity, probably have

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Speaker 5: I'd say, like the only happiness I would get would

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Speaker 5: be like I would come home and be like, oh,

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Speaker 5: it's so quiet.

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Speaker 3: Home by myself. No, you would love to be like

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Speaker 3: home by yourself, like a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I think everybody does.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can tell that sometimes when I take Dawson,

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because even with Dawson, like he's too right,

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Speaker 2: but like when he's home, you are home with someone,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, and like when you're when he leaves and

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Speaker 2: Jared takes him somewhere, I'm like, oh my gosh, this

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Speaker 7: Can I ask maybe a personal question, what happens if

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Speaker 7: you're home alone with the kid and you really got

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Speaker 7: to go to the bathroom number two, You're going to

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Speaker 6: What doors open?

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Speaker 3: I'm a woman. I don't do doors open. You've done

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Speaker 5: Yeah, where it's just like I go. So I usually

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Speaker 5: like will put the TV on quickly, and because it's

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Speaker 5: I'll put the TV on and he'll be with his toys,

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Speaker 7: It's like give a courtesy flush.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just make sure that I'm like, nope, stay away, bro,

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Speaker 5: Like you don't want to yea happen.

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Speaker 3: It's good to Yeah, it's usually the TV. Usually a TV. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but usually I'm pretty fast.

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Speaker 7: Because girls are and I don't know you're missing out,

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Speaker 7: you're missing out on the whole side of life that

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Speaker 7: it makes things so much better.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because there are times like there is no my

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Speaker 5: body will not allow me. I don't I cap what

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Speaker 5: we're talking about this right now, because I feel bad.

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Speaker 5: We've taken the poop talk from suckers to almost famous

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Speaker 5: now quickly. Though As a guy dude, I couldn't like

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Speaker 5: my body. It's not like I sit, I go, I'm done.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, it's like it's like I go and then

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, I think there's more, and then it's

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Speaker 7: And then I start to feel bad. So I'm like,

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Speaker 7: I should probably hurry up start wiping. I'm like, wait, no,

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Speaker 7: I'm not done.

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Speaker 5: That's what I mean, Like, I'm not done. There's like

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Speaker 5: times where we're like, yeah.

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Speaker 6: It's like it's a week.

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Speaker 2: I can sort of I have moments where I understand

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Speaker 2: where you're coming from, but like, okay, now we're getting

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Speaker 2: the sign that we should probably change the subject.

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Speaker 3: But I do want to leave the ultimate.

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Speaker 2: Conversation that we start out with by saying, I'm not

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Speaker 2: a bitch. I want Jared to be happy if I died,

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 3: Would love and I want you you know, and whatever

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Speaker 6: But it's great, So why why do you.

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Speaker 7: What do they say?

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Speaker 3: She said, I never want to get married again.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I would never want to get married again.

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, there's a difference between being with someone and

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Speaker 3: Sweet babe. Yeah that's so nice.

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Speaker 3: She's like, you will, you would you will? Adam?

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Speaker 5: that it would they would be kind of like a rebound.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't think i'd ever find like this

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Speaker 6: About marriage again, not even your.

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Speaker 2: That I would say that this this time in their relationship,

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Speaker 6: No, right, Yeah, I would say otherwise.

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Speaker 5: And that's why it's so interesting that they're getting marriage

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Speaker 5: Finish the Sorry, I know, I took a sip and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like for me, I wouldn't needed that again either,

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Speaker 3: Is what I'm interested.

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Speaker 7: Let's ask you this question real quick, Ashley. You probably

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: This soon?

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Speaker 2: I think they probably would be interested in getting married

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Speaker 6: Don't know literally speaking out of ours I am. And

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Speaker 5: That just because I think people think that we have

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Speaker 7: What's so cool about Jared, I'm so sorry, Gary and

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Speaker 7: Teresa is they're seventy something years old. Yeah, and only

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Speaker 7: It's like they're, at seventy plus years old, you know

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Speaker 7: So it's like it's almost hard for us to even

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Speaker 2: It's actually such a good point, and I love to

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Speaker 3: They're literally twice my age to a t.

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Speaker 5: So it's such an impactful decision because not to sound morbid,

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Speaker 6: You know, there's more there's ahead of them.

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Speaker 7: They're past the halfway point, so that's crazy, past the

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Speaker 3: Point good combos.

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Speaker 5: you know, we're rooting for sounds so bad to say,

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Speaker 5: like old people. They're not old, but you know what

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Speaker 3: Why do you think cute again?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's like grandmon and Grandpa.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're like, I want them to be married

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Speaker 6: Call it a life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Anyways, we're excited for the wedding tonight. I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I love you guys, Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Till next time, I've been Ashley and this has been Jared.

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Speaker 6: Bye.

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