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Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gift. S'm Brichard Wineger A

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Speaker 3: happy new Year. This is going to be out in

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Speaker 3: It's James Austin Johnson. Jay, Hello, welcome to. I said

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Speaker 4: I said yes, I said no guest. When I got

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Speaker 3: Look, palm trees to whatever tree. New York is famous.

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Speaker 4: This is more like I'm sharing a piece of myself

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Speaker 3: You know, they're standing on my porch yelling at me,

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Speaker 3: And now I've got this gift or whatever it is

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, honestly, I was hoping to talk to

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Speaker 3: So here's some tissue coming out of the bag, just

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Speaker 4: I was thinking that Mark or Elisee would have taken

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Speaker 3: Oh and now it's actually in another bat Okay, so

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Speaker 4: I told them not to triple rap anything. I told

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Speaker 3: There's like a. It looks like there's a card here

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Speaker 3: Let's see what is uh Oh, let's see it, says

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Speaker 4: I think you'll find that metaphorically, this actually does. This

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Speaker 3: So oh my god, like this bat hassle actually difficult

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Speaker 4: I have a box cutter right here, just reach York City.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to cut it open.

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Speaker 4: Cut it open. Because I had trouble opening my bag.

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Speaker 4: I was not able to open my bag until I

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Speaker 3: And Okay, I've made it through the bag. Okay, I've

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Speaker 3: never heard of this book. It's called every Man's Battle,

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Speaker 3: Winning the War on Sexual temptation, one victory at a time,

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Speaker 3: and with a workbook. More than four million sold. This

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Speaker 4: a devout kind of sin conqueror than I was. Young Christians,

436
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 4: and he, I think, felt very guilty about his sexual desires.

437
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: I of course, felt guilty constantly about having developing, you know, uh, sexuality.

438
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: And so we read this book at the same time.

439
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: And I don't know if we discussed.

440
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: It right, preparing modes at all.

441
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: It would have been too hot. I think if he

442
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 4: and I got together to discuss these things, I think

443
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 4: we would have I think it would have been too hot.

444
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: So but I remember reading it, and there are things

445
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 4: that I read in this book that, for some reason,

446
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 4: even after I've deprogrammed from sort of the hardcore Christianity,

447
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 4: I used to be such an eager participant that I

448
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 4: still these thoughts still come up, and these like things

449
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 4: that I learned in this book still sort of like

450
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: like one of the things in the book is like

451
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 4: and by the way, it's a it's a completely like

452
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: hetero normative heterosexual book. It is it is written for

453
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 4: men to avoid looking at women. And there's a giant

454
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: loophole I know, and the author also you can't help

455
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 4: but like when you read this kind of stuff, the

456
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: guy always ends up tipping his hand at what he

457
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: finds sexually deals. And so this guy talks a lot

458
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 4: about runners in the morning. So I think one of

459
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: the things that he talks about is bouncing your eyes.

460
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: You like learning to. Learning to is the minute that

461
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 4: your your eyes are about to land on a juicy

462
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: ass or a great set of hands, that you bounce

463
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 4: your eyes away real quick. I remember practicing this. I

464
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 4: remember trying to learn how to be so respectful of

465
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 4: the women around me, do not stare. And then I

466
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: grew up and I was like, oh, to everything, there

467
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 4: is a season.

468
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: Now you've developed a lifelong tick.

469
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: I've developed this tick. And it's like, it's maybe not

470
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 4: the worst thing in the world not to sexualize every

471
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: single woman that crosses your path. But the assumption is

472
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: that that's what you were doing.

473
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: Something is that's just kind of this leering perfect that.

474
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: You hear this lobotomized sort of like walking boner. And

475
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: so that's these these Christian books about sexuality always like

476
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 4: have this this really weird? Like have you ever had

477
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: sex before? Like they have this really weird perspective on

478
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: all this stuff, and I find it fascinating. I thought

479
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 4: you might find it fascinating.

480
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I love the idea of me getting

481
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: this book in high school and just being like, gotcha, gotcha,

482
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 3: this is I'm on top of all of this, avoiding,

483
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: way ahead of your hair, avoiding women in every possible way.

484
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: This is fascinating. So you read this book with your friend?

485
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: Did you do the work book? What does that even involve?

486
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 4: I didn't know it came with a workbook.

487
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: Is that maybe part of the anniversary?

488
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: Okay? Is it a separate book?

489
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: It looks like I'm seeing victory with your eyes. There

490
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: are discussion questions in case you have a group that

491
00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: you meet with.

492
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: I had heard about these groups when I was maybe

493
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: thirteen or fourteen. These are like these are like porn

494
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: and masturbation accountability groups that some young men thought that

495
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: they needed to be a part of. I remember hearing

496
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: about these. I was never a part of. When I,

497
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: even at my most fervently Christian, despised Bible studies and

498
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: despised I went to church because like in my family,

499
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: we were part of like the political structure of the

500
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: Church of the Nazarene, which is this denomination of the

501
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: church similar to Methodist, but more strict and more weird,

502
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: and and so we were an important family in that church.

503
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: I'm like the grandson of like two important Nazarene figures.

504
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: And so we went to church twice on Sunday, once

505
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: on Wednesday, and then like three more times various times

506
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 4: for various reasons. And then my whole family life revolved

507
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: around at Nazarene College, and so we were always on

508
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: the campus of the college. And so the thought of

509
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: going to a fucking panera with eight dopes who are

510
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: all talking about I saw a boob and I and

511
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: I shit my pants is the last thing on this

512
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: goddamned earth that I would ever have wanted to do.

513
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 4: Even at the height of my Jesus saucity, I was like,

514
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: that sounds so fucking awful. I don't want to do that.

515
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: And also, I will say this, I did pretty good

516
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: on my own. I did not masturbate Bridger until I

517
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 4: had completed a year of college.

518
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: I never want saw the book worked. You've come on

519
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: here to kind of sell books.

520
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: Yes, the book worked if what you want to work

521
00:30:53,400 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 4: is to never experience pleasure and to associate sexual pleasure

522
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: with fear intention, which I'm still like, I'm still working

523
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: through that that. I of course, I kind of screwed

524
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: up my sexual development to be in this very unfree,

525
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: unfun zone. So it's it's weird. But my wife is

526
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: from that world too, and we both left it and

527
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: we it fucked her up in interesting ways too, So

528
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: so we're always talking about, like, can you believe the

529
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: ship that we used to do? And so it's good

530
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: because both of us are in the same boat, so

531
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: we have a pretty bridger. What I'm saying is, obviously

532
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: we've got a baby coming. My wife and I have

533
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: a very healthy sex life.

534
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: You've had sex at least one time.

535
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: I've had sex at least once, and I need the

536
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: world to know that.

537
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: Wait, what do you can you say? What you're naming

538
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: the baby?

539
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: Okay? So one of those grandpaus was the president of Treveca,

540
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: the Nazarene college that I grew up around. So his

541
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: name was doctor Homer Adams. So we're naming the baby Homer.

542
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: He died in July. It was very close with ll

543
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: and then we're searching for a middle name for so

544
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: long and we could not think of what the middle

545
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: name was going to be. And last week my grandma died,

546
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: my like very like the youngest one, the life of

547
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: the party, my sort of best closest friend of the grandparents, Janelle,

548
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: and her maiden name's Crawford. So when she died, we

549
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: were like, this is Harma Crawford. So now it's Homer

550
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: Crawford Johnson. He's going to be born at ninety six,

551
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: He's going to be an old man. From his first breath.

552
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: That is somebody on a writing lawnmower.

553
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, oh, writing lawnmower. You have no idea the

554
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: images that came up immediately of who raised me.

555
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to open this next thing here. Yeah, it's

556
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: another one of these bags which are just simply impossible

557
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: to open.

558
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: This is now, this is I didn't know that there

559
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: was a work book in every Man's Battle.

560
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: Is this a separate work book?

561
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: Well, it's something of a fashion of a fashion, that's.

562
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: I These bags are like military grade. I've never seen

563
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: anything like this. Okay, what is this? It's a this

564
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: is this should be illegal. It's like a journal that

565
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: says complete abstinence is easier than perfect moderation. What are

566
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: we talking about. It's dangerous to tell people. I mean

567
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: the pressure you're putting on a human mind, especially the

568
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: male mind. I mean, this is truly your training shooters

569
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: with this thing.

570
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping to

571
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 4: program you into an in cell that becomes a major

572
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: major problem for the FBI. Abstinence only education is I

573
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: think a bad thing, and it's a good option for

574
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 4: the kids who want to edge edge themselves. Edging can

575
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 4: be a fun sexual activity for anybody, but complete abstinence

576
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: is it's not easier than perfect moderation. It's it's it's

577
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: very complete absence is very difficult.

578
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: Nearly an impossible, impossible mind and also literally, our bodies

579
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: don't do that, it's not they are not programmed evolutionary.

580
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: That's what evolution is is the proliferation of this the species.

581
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: It's all our nerve endings telling us to fuck stuff like.

582
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: That's all evolution is. And so I've given you this

583
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: abstinence journal so you can work through every man's battle.

584
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: You can talk about how you need to not look

585
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: at women in that way, and then you can write

586
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: about how many women you did not look at in

587
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: your abstinence.

588
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: Just increasingly angry thoughts in this journal, the handwriting getting

589
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: messier and messier towards the end. It's just something for

590
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: police evidence lockers. This will be presented in court after

591
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: I've purchased the trench coat and whatever rifle or what

592
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: have you strapped a bomb to myself and then they

593
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: find this under some dusty blanket in my house.

594
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 4: Well, it's called podcasts, and it's the new fad that's

595
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: sending guns into malls as your child listening to podcasts.

596
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 4: More on that at eleven, Did.

597
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 3: You have an insane sex education in high school?

598
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: I would say, well, okay, so I went to I

599
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: went to like liberal public magnet schools all the way

600
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 4: up until high school. So I was the only person

601
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 4: in my family that had been given access to like

602
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: Jewish people and Muslims and the liberal children of college

603
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 4: professors and like all this stuff. So I had a

604
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: pretty like diverse and challenging middle school, elementary school, middle

605
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 4: school experience. And then when I got to high school,

606
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: the academics were so piss poor. At the Baptist private

607
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: high school, I had a couple really good teachers. I

608
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 4: will say this, I had a couple really good teachers,

609
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 4: and the fact that the school was so small, I

610
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: was really able to like flourish in like the drama

611
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: program because I was like, you know that my competition

612
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: was like ten other people, so he gave me certain advantages.

613
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 4: I will say, but I hated being taught Christian education

614
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: by baseball coaches because that's like how Christian high school's

615
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: run is, Like the baseball coach is out ranks any

616
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: other teacher because like we really need to lift up

617
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: the baseball program, Like that's really what's going on.

618
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: This is a I mean, you taught public schooling. This

619
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: is exactly what I dealt with.

620
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: This is what you dealt with. So I just remember,

621
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: we didn't. We didn't really. I think. I think they

622
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: would have talked from a Christian perspective about sex in

623
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 4: the middle school that I did not attend at this

624
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: private school. So so by then it was all open

625
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: and you know, go to worship service and you praise

626
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: God and you talk about how good a Christian you are,

627
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 4: and then you go to lunch and everyone's talking about

628
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: all the crazy sexual stuff that they did that week

629
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 4: and the whole double life thing that everyone leads in

630
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: that environment. So it just felt felt like it wasn't

631
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: really that serious.

632
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 3: Right. Meanwhile, you were like in the corner with every

633
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: man's battle.

634
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: I was not dating people on purpose, Bridger. It was

635
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: on purpose that women would not come near me.

636
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 3: This is fully unrelated. But did you go see the

637
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: new pornographers? I did you because you posted about them

638
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: on Instagram. You had an extra ticket, and I thought

639
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 3: he must have gone through his entire list of friends

640
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: and they've all said no to this. He's now advertising

641
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: this on Instagram.

642
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 4: Well it's I put I didn't know how to do

643
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 4: it on the close friends thing, and I posted it

644
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 4: on the general thing and I deleted it immediately because

645
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: I forgot that there was a way to make it

646
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 4: just like a select group of people. So then I

647
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: posted it to the close friends thing and I was like, okay,

648
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: one am I so a friend of mine I've forgotten? Like,

649
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: I don't know who lives in New York. That's the

650
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: other thing, right, you're new. I'm new to New York,

651
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: so I don't know which of my friends have moved

652
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: there in the last year or two or something. So

653
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: I was like hoping to see if someone would go

654
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 4: with me, and eventually the director, Stephen Fine arts.

655
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 3: Oh beautiful. Yeah. In that moment, I felt an enormous

656
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: empathy for you. But I'm glad it worked out. Was

657
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: it a good show?

658
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: It was a great show. They played the album Twin

659
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 4: Cinema all the way through, like the anniversary of Twin Cinema,

660
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 4: so I love that record. It was a really good show.

661
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: Someone told me that it's fun to go to concerts

662
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: by yourself, and I still haven't I can't compute that

663
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: I always have to go with someone. But one of

664
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: these days, I'm just going to start going to concerts

665
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: by myself.

666
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: Oh it's fantastic. It's so low pressure, you know, it's

667
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: I still i'll go with people, but there's something about

668
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: going with other people to a concert. There's you're not

669
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: really enjoying it to together really, and there's so much

670
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: pressure to be like, if you're bored, you still have

671
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: to stick around and you're there, you can't really talk

672
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: to each other, and when you do, you're kind of

673
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: just faking it. There's just kind of the like glancing

674
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: at each other throughout the show that's so uncomfortable. Yeah,

675
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: I love going alone. I mean I can't remember the

676
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: last show I went to alone. But it's the same

677
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: with movies and that sort of thing.

678
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 4: It's I do like movies alone, and I have gone

679
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: to plenty of movies alone and it is it's great.

680
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 4: I mean I saw Dune by myself and IMAX, and

681
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: I had such a good time. I always like the

682
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 4: movie more.

683
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: Oh, of course, because you're not worrying about anyone's feelings exactly.

684
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: I saw a Kingdom of the Crystal Skull by myself

685
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 4: and had a great time. Like lots of movies that

686
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 4: people consider like the worst movies of all time, I

687
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: saw by myself and I was like, that was great

688
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 4: because I just went in to enjoy a movie, like

689
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 4: at noon on a Saturday. It's movies are nice. It's

690
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: a nice activity, just.

691
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: A pleasant thing. And I feel like the Crystal Skull movie,

692
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: by the way, big take for me, I think it's

693
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: absolutely I remember being fine. I mean, I feel like

694
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: there were giant ants that take over a car or something.

695
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: But look, these movies are all insane exactly.

696
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're for children.

697
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 3: They are for children.

698
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 4: Should go in know, and it's for kids.

699
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: You're not going to be getting any deep looks into humanity.

700
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 3: Someone will. There'll probably be an alien involved or some

701
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: sort of supernatural thing. And it's right, and that's why

702
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: it's exciting, right right. Okay, I think we should play

703
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: a game.

704
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: I would love to.

705
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna play a game called Gift Master, and I

706
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: need a number between one and ten from you.

707
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: Three.

708
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some light calculating. So while

709
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm doing this, you can recommend something, you can promote something,

710
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 3: you can do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

711
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 4: Well, I'm on the Big Show. It's on NBC and

712
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: coming to Comedy Central in twenty twenty two. I'm a

713
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 4: voice on a little cartoon called fair View, and I

714
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: actually do a lot of voices on their show. And

715
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: it's poopoo peepee humor, it's sexual humor. It's not for children,

716
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: even though it's a cartoon. I don't know what's going

717
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: on these days. People say, Hey, I'm going to make

718
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: a cartoon. When are you going to show it Saturday

719
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 4: morning for all the children. No, I'm going to show

720
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: it late at night for all the adults. Okay, And

721
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 4: you said it's a cartoon, So I'm on one of those,

722
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 4: and you can check that out. My cartoon work just

723
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 4: keeps growing and growing, you know. And a couple of

724
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: voices in the new season of squid Billies and Tuca

725
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: and Birdie on Adult Swim. So look for that stuff.

726
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: Perfect. Look at all of the things you've presented people with,

727
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: probably enough to confuse them, and now they're not gonna

728
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: be able to enjoy any of it. They're going to

729
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: have to go back. Take a note. Whatever this is.

730
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: This is gift mester James. I'm gonna name three potential

731
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 3: gifts you can give away, and I'm going to name

732
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: three celebrities who you can give them to. Okay, so

733
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna tell me which gift you're gonna give which

734
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 3: celebrity and why does that make sense?

735
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 4: Yeah?

736
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: Okay, the three gifts you'll be giving today. One of

737
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 3: them is echo location, so the ability to kind of

738
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 3: use sound to know where you are in the World's

739
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: kind of a dolphin esque bat style echo location. Number

740
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: two is razor sharp teeth, so that's also kind of

741
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: an experience based gift. And number three is a nonstick pan,

742
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: so a little bit more you know, something they can

743
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: just throw under the oven and use when they need

744
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: to cook. Here are the people you'll be giving them to.

745
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: Number one, she's up and coming, she's in everything. It's

746
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 3: Beanie Feldstein, Beanie Feldstein. Yeah. Number two, Oh, it's Lou Bega. Okay,

747
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 3: so he hasn't been on the scene for a minute.

748
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: And then finally, well.

749
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: I understand mambo number five. If I haven't seen Mambo's

750
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 4: one through.

751
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: Four, absolutely not. You will be so in the weeds

752
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: with that song. It'll send you into a frenzy. Number three,

753
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: everybody loves this person. I think I could be wrong.

754
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: Frank Langella Franklin Jella from The Gift?

755
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: Right, was that the name of the movie The Gift or.

756
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: The Box the Wait? Was that the one with Cameron

757
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: Diaz where it was like an evil box that like

758
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: open and someone would die or something.

759
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 4: I think so, And that was what he did right

760
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 4: after I think Frost Nixon.

761
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: Right, excellent follow up, I mean, the perfect, one of

762
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: the best.

763
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: One of the best. Okay, So, Franklin Jella, you know,

764
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know a lot about frank He's

765
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: a great guy, and I know he's like super talented,

766
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: and I'm a character actor as well, and I know

767
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: we would probably be able to hook into a good

768
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 4: conversation by getting into maybe you know, the Meisner technique

769
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: or Stanislavski or Chekhov or something, you know, stuff that

770
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: actors like to talk about. Beanie I believe is Jonah

771
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 4: Hill's sister. She is, She's done some Broadway and she's

772
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: you know, she's sort of like a comedy, like big,

773
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: big studios comedies, although we don't have big studio comedies anymore.

774
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 4: Now we have stuff like American Crime Story, impeachment which

775
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 4: has taken the place of comedy. But really it's what

776
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 4: I guess we would call it light drama.

777
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: Light drama, just drama with a you know, like a

778
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: fun spin drama with.

779
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: A rye sort of smooth smile. And then so she's

780
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 4: been doing that stuff. And then the second one was

781
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: lou Bega, who I'm very familiar with who lou Bega

782
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: is from, you know, a Disney interstitial I saw one time,

783
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: and his famous song about all the women that he's fucked.

784
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: So the nonstick pan is one of those things where

785
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: it's like I feel first that I should give the

786
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 4: nonstick pan too. This is like something that you give

787
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 4: someone who's new to like New York City or something

788
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: right that I'm not saying that Beanie Feldstein is new

789
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 4: to New York City, but maybe she's getting you know,

790
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: she's coming up in the world. Maybe she's getting her

791
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: own Williamsburg a parchment, and she's moving out of like

792
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 4: her roommate situations. She's getting her own place, and she's

793
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 4: never owned her own nonstick and before she's always used

794
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: her girlfriends, her her cool best friends one you know,

795
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: her roommate's boyfriend's non stickpan. So here she is living

796
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: all alone. I think I might give her a non

797
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 4: stick pans as her career goes up. Now that said

798
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: a young woman lost in New York City, wouldn't Echo

799
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 4: location be a perfect gift to give her?

800
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: I feel like Echo location in New York you were

801
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: in absolute hell.

802
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 4: You don't think the clicking. You don't think clicking would

803
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 4: help you know how high a curb might be.

804
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: Or I guess if you're lost in a subway tunnel,

805
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: like making your way through the sewer system, that would.

806
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: Be all perfect. The last thing I saw of Lou

807
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 4: Bega was he was on Polish TV. This is somebody

808
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: posted this on Twitter that Lou Bega was singing Mambo

809
00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: number five on Polish State TV at a celebrate of

810
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: like the Polish independence or something like that, or some

811
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: sort of like liberation action thing. So there's like a

812
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: camera panning past a fighter jet to Lou Bega standing

813
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 4: in front of like female dancers in like pseudo military

814
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: theatrical garb, and they're.

815
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: Held against his will by the Polish state.

816
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's He's being held by a castellanbuh in uh

817
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: in Poland. So I think lou bega. He's lost in

818
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 4: Eastern Europe. He doesn't know how to get back. He's

819
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: he's eaten so many perogis that he just wants to

820
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: curl up and fall asleep. But it's a cold, windy, frigid,

821
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 4: rainy area. I think that the echolocation parogis are soft

822
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 4: enough that I think that echo location is what he needs,

823
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: not the razor sharp teeth.

824
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 3: I feel like there's plenty of ocean eastern Europe, so,

825
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: you know, dietary wise, he's.

826
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: Fun overcooked cabbage and these kinds of things, so sauerkraut.

827
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 4: And I think that the echo location will help him

828
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 4: because if he gets lost on his way back to

829
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: the airport, he may need to use his clicking, you know,

830
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: to find his way through.

831
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: The woods, right, I will, and also think of using

832
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: that clicking to find your way from like from Monica

833
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: to Jessica or what have you.

834
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: Oh, of course, yeah, he needs both of them in

835
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 4: his life, and the echo location could really help him

836
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: make that happen. Hey, by the way, how big is

837
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 4: this guy's bed? Bridger? I count thirty thirty women in

838
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 4: this song. I mean, this must be this, that must

839
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 4: be a wider screen than one of those anamorphic lens

840
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 4: shots from a Wes Anderson movie or some know what

841
00:49:54,320 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: I mean. God is this is fun. He goes into

842
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 4: the contacts in his phone, and his phone says, I

843
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: quit the casual podcast listener can't hear this, but I

844
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: leaned into the lens and gave a face.

845
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: Like what But I could feel that through the audio.

846
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 4: Which of course leaves razors sharp teeth for Franklin Agela.

847
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 4: This is a man who's getting older, and we all

848
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: know that our bodies fail in all these weird sorts

849
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: of ways as we get older. And I'm guessing that

850
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: frank Langella, who's a very large man, maybe a burly man,

851
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 4: I bet he enjoys a nice steak every once in

852
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 4: a while. And if his career were to really take

853
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: a downturn, if some of his investments didn't pan out,

854
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 4: and he's going from eating wag u to moving down

855
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 4: to a top round to a chuck through a chuck

856
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 4: steaks very grizzly cut, he might want that razor sharp

857
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 4: teeth because Franklin, I mean, he's not as in the

858
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 4: spotlight anymore, but he doesn't quite have the time to

859
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: braize a smaller cut, like a worse cut of meat

860
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: for hours and like a bergun Yon kind of preparation.

861
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 4: So I think he needs the razor sharp teeth to

862
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: cut through that that chuck stack.

863
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: At this point, he only has the time to eat

864
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: it out of a bowl like a dog. So you're

865
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: saying the point in his career that he's not using

866
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 3: a fork or knife anymore. He's eating meat meat just

867
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: straight off the table, or it's being thrown through the

868
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: air and he catches it in his jaws.

869
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Franklin Jella is like, Uh, he's tied up in

870
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 4: Ron Howard's basement or something like that. He's got a

871
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: dog thing. I wouldn't be surprised if Franklin Jella had

872
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 4: a dog thing.

873
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: He has always given me kind of a Dracula vibe

874
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: or something. There's something line where I can see him

875
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: kind of in a manner or like a you know,

876
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: a shadowy of state. Yeah, those teeth, I think that

877
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: would work perfectly.

878
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 4: He lives in a shadowy of state and he's got

879
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: razor sharp teeth. But I do think that there's a

880
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: warmth there that in the third act we could reveal

881
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 4: that he's merely just a lonely and misunderstood person who

882
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: needed to be shown affection from the protagonist uh to

883
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: to brighten up and for the entire perspective to shift.

884
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: Allah the pigeon lady from home alone, Allah the shovel

885
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 4: man from home alone one. Are these the only examples

886
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: I can think of a role like this? Yes, but

887
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 4: there's more of them? Is there anybody with a with

888
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 4: razor sharp teeth? Is there like a horror character whose

889
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: thing is the sharp teeth?

890
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: I'm just picturing Mortal Kombat characters.

891
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, riff Raff. When riff Raff has a grill in

892
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: that's sharp enough, he has like sharp teeth.

893
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: I think that that's excellently played. I think that you really,

894
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: I do it. Beanie seems like somebody who could absolutely

895
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: use a non stick pan, maybe a new iron and

896
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: ironing board. You know, empty condo that was so beautiful,

897
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: but she forgot to get anything, and she doesn't want

898
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 3: to make it.

899
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 4: Want to take Beanie Feldstein to bed, bath and beyond o? Bad?

900
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: Okay, We've got to answer a listener question. This is

901
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: called I said no emails people right into I said

902
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: no gifts at gmail dot com. Different questions problems this

903
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 3: sort of thing, and then I help them, the guest

904
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: helps them. I rarely receive a thank you will you

905
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: help me answer a question?

906
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 4: You know, the thought of someone being so discourteous as

907
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: to not send a thank you card their question is

908
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 4: read on a podcast makes my blood boil. But I

909
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 4: think if I do some breathing exercises over the next

910
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: thirty seconds, I think I'll be able to come down enough.

911
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: Okay, you breathed while I read this question, It says

912
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: deer Bridger and yet another disobedient guest, so they've kind

913
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: of just they're going at it from the very beginning.

914
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: It says, I need some help getting my dentist's office

915
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: a gift, So the entire dentist office. You see, I

916
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: was terrified of the dentist for so long that I

917
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: finally had to go in when I had a serious infection.

918
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: Luckily for me, I ended up at the nicest office

919
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: and they helped me through my year long dental journey

920
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 3: back to health. My doctor dealt with some big sobbing

921
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: in the beginning, but was sweet and encouraging the whole

922
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: way through, and the hygienist and front desk were so

923
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: accommodating as well. This is starting to feel like a

924
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 3: Yelp review. Let's see. I'd love to get them a

925
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: gift as a thank you, but not quite sure what's appropriate.

926
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: Normally i'd get some sort of sweet treat, but I

927
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: feel is wrong to send cookies to the dentist. Okay,

928
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: I'd just like to make a small gesture that I

929
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 3: appreciate all their help throughout the last year. Thanks for

930
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 3: all your insights, Sarah. There's some decent amount of assumptions

931
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: here that they're going to be multiple insights this kind

932
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: of thing. But first of all, Sarah, you're talking to

933
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 3: the wrong person. I've had a year of dental hell.

934
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: The last thing I want to do is buy my

935
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: dentist office a gift. But we're going to try to

936
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: think about your situation, your huge infection, your dental problems,

937
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: and the way they've gotten you out of it. What

938
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 3: do we get this person, what do we get this office?

939
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 4: Well, I know with a dentist office, you know, I

940
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 4: think about what a dentist office needs. They've got the

941
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 4: newsweeks that look like they've been peed on. They've got

942
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 4: the highlights, magazines, the national geographics. My first thought was

943
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: a couple of subscriptions to some to a higher upper

944
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: crust of magazine, A New Yorker, a Harper's, Harper's, Harper's Bizarre,

945
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: The Economist, the Atlantic, Hell, the National Review, give a

946
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 4: little bone to the angry dad. Who's there is a

947
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 4: young teenage daughter who keeps crowing on and on about

948
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: how she wants to read the latest socialist essay and

949
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: team Vogue. So my first thought is subscriptions, just to

950
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 4: sort of pad out that waiting room. And I got

951
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 4: the last thing that the front and desk gal wants

952
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 4: to think about, that that the dental hygienist wants to

953
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 4: think about that, the dentist wants to think about who.

954
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 3: Is at a dentist office making these big calls on

955
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 3: magazine subscriptions. I've never thought about that. Is it the

956
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 3: dentist or is it the office manager or the her receptionist.

957
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: So the collaboration, I think of it as the it's

958
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: whoever the the what's Pete butt of Judge's husband's name, Dave, Dave,

959
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: I don't know his name, Chastin, Chastin, Chastin or Chastity.

960
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: I'm immediately thinking of like a Pete butter jedge style

961
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 4: dentist and his his sort of posh husband. I think

962
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 4: of a Chastin Butta judge or I don't know what

963
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: Chast's last name is, buying the magazine subscriptions for the

964
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: for the dentist's office. I think of it as like

965
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: a spousal obligation.

966
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting, that makes sense to me. Actually, like

967
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: your dentist spouse has launched their business and you think, oh,

968
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 3: what a fun treat for my spouse. I'm going to

969
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: subscribe to a variety of magazines. Yeah, yeah, I think magazine.

970
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: It really is just about thinking about what your dream

971
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: dentist office. This person, the Sarah person, is in the

972
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: perfect position to improve her situation and make it seem

973
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: like something that came from her heart. So pick your

974
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: favorite magazine, maybe buy a fish for the fish tanks,

975
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: or buy just a fish, and then the dentist office

976
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: is suddenly on the hook for buying an entire tank.

977
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: Or a full aquarium with no fish in it, and

978
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 4: leave the propagation of the fish community to that.

979
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: And if they don't buy the fish, suddenly it's filling

980
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: with algae. It's this filthy tank of water that's kind

981
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: of driving customers away.

982
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you uh, do you ever play animal crossing?

983
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: I've never gotten into animal crossing. It feels like it

984
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: should be exactly the game for me because I loved

985
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: Harvest Moon, I loved the sims. But I think there's

986
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: something about the absolute lack of goals and animal crossing that.

987
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 4: Well, there's not quite an outla have goals. And I

988
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 4: will say that the new expansion they have you designing

989
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: homes for other people's vacations. So you have these assignments

990
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: and stuff. But when you give a gift, so so

991
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 4: much of animal crossing is about becoming good enough friends

992
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 4: with your little penguin villager, your little bowl villager that

993
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 4: you get to the point that you can give them gifts.

994
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 4: And you give them gifts every day, and you can

995
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 4: very cynically do this by just digging up a fossil

996
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: and wrapping that in wrapping paper. They love fossils. They

997
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 4: flip the fuck out for fossils. My favorite thing about

998
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 4: giving gifts and animal crossing is when you give your

999
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 4: little villager a gift, they will they will display it

1000
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 4: in their home. They will either display it in their

1001
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 4: home or they will immediately put it on. If you

1002
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 4: gave them a track suit, they will put on the

1003
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 4: track suit almost immediately. If you give them a like

1004
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: a snow globe, you will see the snow globe displayed

1005
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 4: in their home. It might be put on the floor

1006
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 4: next to the stove because it's a video game and

1007
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: it thinks like a computer. But you go in and

1008
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 4: you go like, oh, there's the board game I gave Rodeo.

1009
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 4: Rodeo put the board game I gave him on a

1010
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: shelf behind his Bed's that's good. Oh look at that.

1011
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 4: It seems like Lucky really enjoyed the candlestick I gave

1012
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 4: him and he put it on the floor in front

1013
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 4: of the toilet. That's really well.

1014
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 3: That I mean, that is the power of giving gifts,

1015
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: is you put people in strange positions. And the Sarah

1016
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: person has the whole dentist office that she can hold hostage.

1017
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 3: Send them all tracksuits and snow globes.

1018
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, put a piece of yourself into it. That's why

1019
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 4: I brought up the animal crossing Sarah. As you can,

1020
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 4: you could pretty much rest assured that that dentist office

1021
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 4: is going to prominently display the gift you give them.

1022
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: Right and if they don't, you can make them feel

1023
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 3: extraordinarily guilty. Where's the snow globe? I know it's jew and.

1024
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 4: I would get I would get a friend. You know,

1025
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 4: I know some friends who do commissioned portrait work. I

1026
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 4: would get a friend together to get together like an

1027
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: oil painting or a watercolor of you, of of this

1028
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 4: young woman, Sarah. Sarah, get a portrait of Sarah and

1029
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: give that to the dentist's office and maybe they'll put

1030
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 4: it up.

1031
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 3: Or send individual desk size photos of yourself to every

1032
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 3: member of the office so it's on every desk throughout

1033
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 3: the dentist office.

1034
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 4: Frame them yourself so that there can be no recourse

1035
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 4: to not putting it up on your on your little desk.

1036
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: I mean, what more could Sarah ask for?

1037
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1038
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: What more could this dentist office ask for?

1039
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 4: She wants to be a part of dental history, and

1040
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 4: this is a moment to be a part of that.

1041
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: She's gone from absolutely avoiding the dental industry to potentially

1042
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: placing herself in a kind of smothering position on this office.

1043
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: She's having a hard time modulating her relationship with the

1044
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: dentist's office and with dentists in general, is what the

1045
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: feeling I'm getting.

1046
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's she doesn't really know where the line is.

1047
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: No, she goes from like completely infected mouth rotting gums.

1048
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 3: I can only assume half half of her teeth left

1049
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 3: to now sending track suits, snow globes, photos of herself,

1050
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: a painting.

1051
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 4: A subscription to Harper's.

1052
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 3: Yes with address to her just with the dentist's office address,

1053
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: which is very confusing for everyone. Looks like the magazines

1054
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: are stolen all of the you know the dentist is

1055
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: it's not a client a customer, what are you patient?

1056
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: The patients are deeply confused.

1057
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 4: I'm reading the Harper's Bizarre. I'm like taking the little

1058
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 4: perfume sample out of it and putting in my purse.

1059
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 4: And I'm asking the front desk woman, does a woman

1060
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 4: named Sarah live here? Who does someone sleep here? This

1061
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 4: looks like it's a residential sort of subscription to a magazine.

1062
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 4: Of course, Sarah crawls out from under one of the

1063
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 4: hard plastic chairs.

1064
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 3: And said, you rang, She's just turned the dentist office

1065
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: into her kingdom. Were kingdom of slime and Harper's.

1066
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 4: Oh, she lives in a weird rat's nest of Harper's

1067
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 4: Bizarre and Highlights magazine. There's saliva. She's formed them into

1068
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: Crewe bricks.

1069
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: Sarah, take all of this information, don't leave any of

1070
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: it out. You've got to just follow this to a

1071
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: t Otherwise that are probably going to delete your records

1072
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 3: and then you're going to be off in the dental

1073
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 3: wilderness again. Your mouth can't handle another infection, James, I know,

1074
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 3: am so prepared to relapse into, you know, my life

1075
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 3: of I'm just going to reclaim my virginity. Yeah, I've

1076
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: got I'm going to go for a life of complete abstinence.

1077
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 4: Now, now let me ask you a question, because you

1078
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 4: may already be there, because I'm to understand your home

1079
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 4: sexual and of course home sexual sexuality does not count

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01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 4: because because as we know, only the only sex that

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Speaker 4: is true is reproductive, and so am I to understand

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Speaker 4: that you truly are ahead of heterosexual version.

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Speaker 3: I'm not. So, I'm I've got There's nothing i can do.

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Speaker 3: I've got to I can't recollect. I've got to claim.

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Speaker 4: You've got to reclaim. Okay, I thought maybe we had

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Speaker 4: a I thought maybe.

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Speaker 3: We had It would have been so easy. I could

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Speaker 3: have just started back to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you already been there, you already had figured out.

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Speaker 3: As far as this book is concerned, I'm already on

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Speaker 3: my way to heaven. Uh or I would have been.

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Speaker 4: But I think I think you're going to heaven.

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01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 3: I feel like I can turn this thing around.

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01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 4: I have a sense about these things. I think I

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01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 4: think you're going to have it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much to be told I'm going to

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Speaker 3: heaven over zoom. What could be better, Fridger, you are

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Speaker 3: going to heaven.

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Speaker 4: Look in my webcam. You are going to heaven.

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Speaker 3: What a fun thing to say to someone as you're

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Speaker 3: killing them. James, thank you so much. This was wonderful.

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Speaker 4: Ah, FREGI this is got to be in the top

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Speaker 4: three podcast appearances that I've been able to right and

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Speaker 4: two for us to truly have gotten to know each

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Speaker 4: other through the podcast. I think is a god thing,

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Speaker 4: and it's a God thing. There's no other way I

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Speaker 4: can say it.

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Speaker 3: There's no I mean, it's beautiful. It's beautiful, and I

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01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 3: feel so close to you right now.

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Speaker 4: I feel close to you.

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Speaker 3: And listener, this is the end of the podcast, and

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Speaker 3: I hope you've taken some lesson from all of this.

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Speaker 3: I hope that you're I mean, I hope that you're

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Speaker 3: not on Amazon now buying the book. I hope you

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Speaker 3: were on it a half hour ago as soon as

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Speaker 3: you heard the title of the book. Otherwise you're not

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Speaker 3: serious about reclaiming your abstinence. So please get the journal,

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01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 3: get the books. It's never too late until you're in hell.

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01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 3: That point, there's no turning back. So I'm going to

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Speaker 3: let you go from the podcast, and I hope you

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Speaker 3: have a wonderful week and happy New Year. Here we are,

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 3: I love you, Bye bye. I said No Gifts is

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Speaker 3: an exactly right production. It's produced and engineered by our

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Speaker 3: dear friend ann Lise Nelson, and the theme song is

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Speaker 3: by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show

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Speaker 3: on Instagram at I Said No Gifts. That's where you're

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Speaker 3: going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: You have to see the gifts. Listen and subscribe on

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Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why

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Speaker 3: not leave a review while you're there. It's really the

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Speaker 3: least you could do considering everything I do for you.

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Speaker 3: And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go

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Speaker 3: to Midrool dot com slash ads.

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Speaker 1: Hell invit, did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear,

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Speaker 1: I guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty.

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Speaker 1: And I said, no, guest, your presence is presence enough.

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Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do you

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Speaker 2: dare to surbey me?