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Speaker 2: tell right now, after last Sunday show, I completely blew

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Speaker 2: my voice out, so I am nursing it to this

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Speaker 2: show today.

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Speaker 4: Well, and hey listen that that happens probably once every

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Speaker 4: two years, I would say, is your average.

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Speaker 2: About about that usually? What happens? Though, By the way,

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Speaker 2: let me run down the eight games going on right now.

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Speaker 2: Let me do I well, no, no, no, no, no, Raiders, Dolphins, Brown, Saints, Vikings, Titan's, Colts, Jets, Packers, Bears, Jaguars, Lions, Rams, Patriots,

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Speaker 2: Raven Steelers. See, the key in this thing is the

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Speaker 2: more that I talk, the more I sort of clear

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Speaker 2: out my throat. And so I'm going to do all

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Speaker 2: the talking and lets you do none of the talking. No,

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Speaker 2: that's not true. No, it was so funny. I left

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Speaker 2: your son. Remember, we had some of the exciting finishes

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Speaker 2: last week, and we had the you know, block field,

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Speaker 2: all this kind of crazy stuff going on. And as

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Speaker 2: I was driving back home, Yeah, I could feel this

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Speaker 2: little flutter in the back of my throat about an

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Speaker 2: my voice.

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Speaker 4: Well, whenever that happens in the future, whenever I feel

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Speaker 4: a flutter, whenever I feel even the slightest bit of

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Speaker 4: a vocal cord, anguish, Yes, you just got to start

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Speaker 4: belting out Celine dion Ha. You know you just I mean,

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Speaker 4: your heart will go on whatever it is, all the hits,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I celebrate her entire catalog. And if you

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Speaker 4: do it at the top of your lungs, normally you

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Speaker 4: can clear out all the spiderwebs. We got a busy week,

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Speaker 4: my friend. This is going to be this is going

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Speaker 4: to be kind of like movement week in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: is what I want to call it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because absolutely there are certain.

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Speaker 4: Teams that can really solidify their footing, especially in the

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Speaker 4: wild Card. There's a lot of teams that could create

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Speaker 1: Then there are certain teams that are literally.

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Speaker 4: Playing for their playoff lives as we speak to this morning.

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Speaker 1: So man, oh man, it's going to be a.

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Speaker 4: Busy morning or afternoon, depending on what coast you're listening

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Speaker 4: to us on, and a lot of things can happen

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Speaker 4: in the next three hours.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean. For instance, we got this Packers Bears game

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Speaker 2: still in it? You know, you're four and five right now,

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Speaker 2: you have a home game where they've only lost once

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Speaker 2: all season long, going against a Packer team that obviously

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Speaker 2: in that very competitive AFC North. So this is a

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Speaker 2: tough game to read, right because the Bears, you know,

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Speaker 2: they made a change at offensive coordinator. What is that like, Rich,

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Speaker 2: Do you know, like making a change at offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: That's a really difficult thing to contend with. I'll give

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Speaker 4: you the most recent comparison, I Ken, do you remember

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Speaker 1: Season in New England. Yes, as a third year quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He started the offseason with co offensive coordinators. It was

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Speaker 4: former New York Giants. Go. So you have Joe Judge

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Speaker 1: At some point. I mean that offense was a mess

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Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna say it's the worst thing you

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Speaker 4: his new coordinator and him wink up. Well, maybe Shane

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Speaker 1: But ain't ain't easy. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

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Speaker 4: It is not easy being a quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: So during the week, you know, I'm watching all these

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Speaker 2: in this raven Steelers matchup going on right now. Is

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Speaker 2: remarkable comeback of Russell Wilson. I'm like, what what do

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Speaker 2: he remarkable comeback? I mean, when you look at his numbers,

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Speaker 2: they're not all that much better than what we saw

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Speaker 2: way they always wins games. They you know, play great defense,

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Speaker 2: they can run the football. I'll take care of the football,

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Speaker 2: don't throw the ball away, stuff like that. But I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I will say this.

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Speaker 4: The Ravens defense is not your father's Ravens defense. This

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They've no Ray Lewis, no Ed Reed, none of that.

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Speaker 2: They're all Sugs.

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Speaker 3: Back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Check out this stat.

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Speaker 4: This is an incredible stat I found on the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: They've allowed an NFL high this season of twenty two

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Speaker 1: Twenty or more yards down the field.

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Speaker 4: Yes, no team has allowed more explosive passing plays completed

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Speaker 4: He has been good. He has been I don't want

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Speaker 1: If he can elevate.

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Speaker 4: give me George Pickens as a player to watch in

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Speaker 4: this matchup.

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Speaker 2: All right, I believe we have a touchdown, but there's

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Speaker 2: so the Packers are on the board.

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Speaker 3: First.

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Speaker 2: I did not see who Jordan Love threw the touchdown

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Speaker 3: You know, when you look at the Dolphins and you

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Speaker 2: Jets, two teams that are both sitting at three and well,

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Speaker 3: Are there seasons over here?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is it absolutely over for either the Dolphins

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Speaker 4: No, not over, but their season is literally weighing in

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Speaker 4: good time to have some home cooking for the Dolphins

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Speaker 4: hosting Las Vegas. They're not done, but they got an

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Speaker 4: incredible amount of work to do, and their margin for

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Speaker 4: era has basically disappeared. Look the Raiders, they haven't lost

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Speaker 1: The twenty fourteen season, and I think they know that.

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Speaker 4: Antonio Pierce is an incredibly passionate coach. I know that

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Speaker 4: he's gonna have these guys ready to play. I think

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Speaker 4: it's a battle. Every time you see Las Vegas this season,

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Speaker 4: I think they are ready to play.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ready to be a head coach.

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Speaker 4: So this is gonna be a war for the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: All right, So was Jaden Reid on the receiving none

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Speaker 3: Fifty nine yard field goal.

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Speaker 2: I see Chris over there shaking in his boots as

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Speaker 2: I am not expecting that to hold up. The Steelers

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Speaker 2: got a field goal on their opening dry Can we

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Speaker 5: Can we just say this about I am still shocked

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Speaker 5: he made it clean on Yeah, I'm just shocked that

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Speaker 3: Now, this is like sixty yards, no problem. How about this?

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Speaker 2: So the stats I saw going into this week fifty

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Speaker 2: Seventy one percent? To put that in perspective. Jan Stenerud,

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Speaker 2: who's one of the first great soccer style kickers in

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Speaker 2: all field goal attempts was under seventy percent. My god,

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Speaker 2: that's that's that's how it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it was not an automatic. You know, you had guys,

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Speaker 2: you know it was. I I remember, yeah, man, I

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Speaker 2: gooes of our back. I can remember when over fifty

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Speaker 4: I mean it just goes to show you that the

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Speaker 4: of talent. I remember when we were watching the and

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Speaker 4: while we're watching tom Brady's career start to you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean anything. How about just fresh air, fresh American

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable distraction for a different organization than maybe trying to

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Speaker 4: No team would trade for Aaron Rodgers because Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: I think, is what this is what's gonna happen. If

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a first round pick. Aaron is going to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that Aaron Rodgers, that was tutoring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get this guy. Is his has is still there?

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Speaker 2: Well, his brain is still there, but is his heart's

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has not been that leader for this New

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like from an emotional quotion standpoint, I

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Speaker 1: The Jets are no better with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I'll tell you what about it, speaking

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Speaker 4: Again, the margins have absolutely disappeared for the Patriots too,

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Speaker 2: All right, Raiders? Right now, second and goal in the

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Speaker 2: Off to a fast start for the Dolphins today. Seven

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Speaker 2: another team that's going to have to make some decisions. Rich,

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Speaker 2: I mean, did they hire the right coach? Is Antonio

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Speaker 1: It's most likely a one and done situation. And here's

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Speaker 4: In the NFL, Antonio Piers could end up being who knows,

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Speaker 1: He could be a Hall of Fame coach for the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 4: I know this, He's not going to get the opportunity

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Speaker 1: I would say it's a possibility.

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Speaker 4: Look Tom and Bill, for everything that has been said

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Speaker 4: You know, from a standpoint of ability to coach, ability

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Speaker 3: By the way, you're not gonna believe this.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about these kickers, how automatic they are. Arguably

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Speaker 2: maybe of all time in the NFL. Justin Tucker just

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Speaker 2: missed a forty seven yard field goal st He struggled

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Speaker 2: all season long. So while everybody else has become automatic

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Speaker 2: no matter the distance, Justin Tucker is in a slump

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Speaker 2: and the Ravens trail of Steelers by a score at three.

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Speaker 1: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's find out what's trending right now.

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Speaker 2: She had to endure yesterday as I was hacking my way.

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Speaker 3: Here was the difference Todayzi.

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Speaker 7: It's all right. I had a lot to say, rich

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Speaker 7: it was fine.

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Speaker 8: He just started coughing, and I would just talk a lot.

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Speaker 2: To say, our listeners are so thrilled more Monzi les Hartman.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that every time. But today I took some

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Speaker 2: coffe medicine. So at least so far, you don't know that, Manti.

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Speaker 4: He said that so sneaky.

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Speaker 7: Like he did something illegal.

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Speaker 4: By cough medicine. Yeah, it's just copious amounts of bourbon.

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Speaker 2: Like that's what it takes.

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Speaker 8: You got to bring it, because yesterday you didn't sound

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Speaker 8: the way you sound a little, you know, you got

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Speaker 8: a sexy voice going on, like Phoebe in front.

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Speaker 4: Right, So, Rizard Monty, I gargle with sulfuric acid.

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Speaker 1: I think everything is fine now fine.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but yeah you're not coughing today, so that's good.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'd rather have this sultry voice.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Really, I'll tell you my brain.

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Speaker 4: It only took you sixty something in years, but your

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Speaker 4: voice is finally dropping.

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Speaker 1: You're really settling into your final form.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right, guys.

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Speaker 8: Eight games going on right in the NFL Continuing Week eleven.

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Speaker 8: Packers were on the scoreboard first, Jordan Love connecting with

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Speaker 8: Jayden Reid for a fifteen yard touchdown pass. The Bears

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Speaker 8: are on the scoreboard, but just a field goals. The

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Speaker 8: Packer's up seven to three late in the first quarter.

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Speaker 8: Lions David Montgomery with the rushing touchdown. They're beating the

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Speaker 8: Jags seven to three, less than a minute to go

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Speaker 8: in the first. The Titans are up on the Vikings

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Speaker 8: three zero with about four minutes to go in the first.

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Speaker 8: I told you I was intrigued by this game because

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Speaker 8: of the Titans defense when it comes to the Vikings

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Speaker 8: in Sam Darnold. The Dolphins are beating the Raiders at

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Speaker 8: home seven three. They're about to start the second quarter.

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Speaker 8: Drake may Plain on one of my fantasy teams today.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 8: He's seven of nine eighty four yards, one touchdown. Patriots

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Speaker 8: are beating the Rams seven zero, three minutes to go

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Speaker 8: in the first.

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Speaker 7: Taysom Hill with a rushing touchdown for the Saints.

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Speaker 8: They're beating the Brown seven zero late in the first

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Speaker 8: Colts on top of the Jets, three zero, three minutes

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Speaker 8: to go in the first Raven Steelers. The big one

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Speaker 8: here Raven started with a fumble Derek Henry on the

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Speaker 8: opening drive. Steelers were only able to get a field

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Speaker 8: goal out of it. And then you guys just talk

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Speaker 8: something is going on with Justin Tucker. He's got the

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Speaker 8: yips broken.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what it is, but he just missed

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Speaker 7: that field goal to tie the game.

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Speaker 8: So the Steelers are have three zero, less than five

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Speaker 8: minutes to go in the first.

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Speaker 7: Later today, Chiefs and Bills.

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Speaker 8: So no Isaiah Petreko for the Chiefs this week, but

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Speaker 8: he should be back for.

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Speaker 7: A week twelve against the Panthers.

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Speaker 8: As for Amari Cooper, apparently he's feeling good.

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Speaker 7: He's feeling like.

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Speaker 8: He's gonna play despite that wrist injury.

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Speaker 7: And lastly, did you guys hear about this?

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Speaker 8: Inside the NBA will live on past this year, so

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Speaker 8: ESPN is going to be licensed to air inside the NBA.

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Speaker 8: This is part of that lawsuit that Warner Brothers Discovery

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Speaker 8: started in July because they said that they matched the offer,

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Speaker 8: but the offer wasn't taken, so this is part.

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Speaker 7: Of all of that.

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Speaker 8: The Athletic does say that TNT will continue to produce

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Speaker 8: the show, but it's going to air on ESPN. No

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Speaker 8: word on what ESPN is gonna do with their already

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Speaker 8: NBA show that they have, like the pre and post.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if there's no worre on what's gonna

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Speaker 7: happen with that. But inside the Men.

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Speaker 3: One, there's only one show for the NBA.

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Speaker 7: And it's inside the NBA and it will live on.

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Speaker 7: Back to you guys, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, MONSI thank you very much. All right, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: try my sultry voice right now to introduce someone that

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Speaker 2: is a dear friend of our show. He is one

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Speaker 2: of the absolute elite at what he does. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: be working that Seahawks forty nine Ers game today. The

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Speaker 2: great Greg Olsen is joining us once again. Greg, thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us. We miss you, man. But I want

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Speaker 2: to get to the Seahawks forty nine Ers game. Let's

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Speaker 2: get it started. I'm looking at like power rankings in

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Speaker 2: the NFC right now. You obviously have the Lions sitting

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Speaker 2: there at the top. The Eagles are coming on strong.

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Speaker 2: But now that Christian McCaffrey's back with the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 2: where do the forty nine ers fit in your power

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Speaker 2: rankings in the NFC?

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Speaker 9: You know, I think on paper, I think potentially everyone

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Speaker 9: every week is just saying, okay, this is the week

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Speaker 9: they break out, you know, as the time it seems

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Speaker 9: that they're getting a little bit healthy. You're of course

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Speaker 9: getting McCaffrey back last week, and now the question is

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Speaker 9: do they lose Kittle and Trent Williams. Will find out

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Speaker 9: here shortly whether those two guys can play. So it

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Speaker 9: seems like every time it looks like they're getting healthy,

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Speaker 9: and it looks like all their stars, especially on offense,

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Speaker 9: are going to be back in there together. You know,

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Speaker 9: somebody else has to miss, So it's really just a

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Speaker 9: question of not you know, listen, this is still one

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Speaker 9: of the best offenses in football when you look at

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Speaker 9: most of the you know, the ways you can evaluate

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Speaker 9: offense with EPA and stats and yards for play and

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Speaker 9: everything other than red zone offense, this is still an

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Speaker 9: elite offense in the league. It just looks a little

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Speaker 9: bit different. So I think the defense is coming off

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Speaker 9: their best game last week against Tampa played really well

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Speaker 9: obviously probably the biggest reason that they won. And this

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Speaker 9: offense with McCaffrey should continue to find its group so

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Speaker 9: Rock Purdy plays at a high level if they continue

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Speaker 9: to get all these pieces back on both sides of

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Speaker 9: the ball. Yeah, you have to imagine in a pretty

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Speaker 9: wide open NFC I think the expectation across the league

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Speaker 9: is it's just a matter of when do the forty

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Speaker 9: nine ers break back out? Is it today, is it

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Speaker 9: next week? At some point, but when they get in

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Speaker 9: the playoffs, this is whether it's a wild card or

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Speaker 9: they end up winning the division. This is just a

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Speaker 9: team in the playoffs that's built for playoff football and

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Speaker 9: probably not a team that anyone wants to draw.

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Speaker 4: Greg you won three Pro Bowls as a tight end,

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Speaker 4: two All Pros. You are the only tight end or

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Speaker 4: the first tight end in NFL history with three consecutive

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Speaker 4: one thousand yard seasons. You're still top ten in most

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Speaker 4: receiving yards by tightands in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about historic numbers.

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Speaker 4: During the course of your career, nobody knows the position

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Speaker 4: better than you. When you watch George Kittle, how do

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Speaker 4: we quantify what he means to the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers because I realized McCaffrey was a brilliant trade

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Speaker 4: and he fits perfectly into the system. And everybody talks about,

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Speaker 4: you know, the utility weapon that Deebo Samuel is and

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Speaker 4: Brock Purty obviously the position he.

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Speaker 1: Plays, he gets a lot of love.

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Speaker 4: But George Kittle, he feels like the behind the scenes

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Speaker 4: glue guy who just never gets the credit he deserves.

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Speaker 4: But he's great at catching, he's great at running after

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Speaker 4: the catch, he's great at blocking. I mean, the guy's

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Speaker 4: tough as nails, he plays hurt. How do you quantify

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Speaker 4: or categorize his important importance to the forty nine ers success.

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Speaker 9: I think you're spot on, And a lot of the

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Speaker 9: guys you just mentioned, it's a little bit easier to

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Speaker 9: evaluate and to kind of quantify what their impact is

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Speaker 9: because it shows up a little bit more in the

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Speaker 9: statueet right. Of course, at the quarterback position with Purdy,

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Speaker 9: that's a no brainer. But you know, McCaffrey comes back

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Speaker 9: in and it's easy to see you know, yards pability

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Speaker 9: to generate yards after catch and what types of coverages

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Speaker 9: do they see and how teams do they want to

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Speaker 9: play man coverage because they don't feel good about, you know,

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Speaker 9: the matchups against you know, McCaffrey. It's a little bit

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Speaker 9: easier to kind of dissect the impact of guys like

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Speaker 9: him and Deebo and of course Purdy, but George and

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Speaker 9: Nith offense. You know, he's going to catch touchdowns, he's

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Speaker 9: going to have breakout games, but he's also going to

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Speaker 9: have you know, quiet three catch games like last week.

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Speaker 9: But then you look and you say, okay, one's a

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Speaker 9: toetep touchdown in the red zone, and one's a great

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Speaker 9: third down conversion on the ball. It's a little high

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Speaker 9: that he brings down. So you take a look and

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Speaker 9: you say, cannot be getting the volume of targets in

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Speaker 9: the passing game. But every time he does have the

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Speaker 9: ball targeted, it's a critical it's an impactful play. And

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Speaker 9: then the things that you can't put a measuring stick on,

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Speaker 9: you can't really give him, you know, yards in the

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Speaker 9: run game or pass protection or you know what he

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Speaker 9: does picking up a blitz to give Purty a chance

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Speaker 9: to hit one of those other targets with the ball.

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Speaker 9: That's the stuff you can only really study and deep dive.

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Speaker 9: But you're not going to see it in the box score.

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Speaker 9: You know, that's something that you're only going to see

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Speaker 9: if you really spend time and appreciate the impact. You know,

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Speaker 9: similar to Trent Williams, you know, but the difference for

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Speaker 9: George is and the advantage that he brings. It's like

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Speaker 9: taking one of your best blockers and being able to

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Speaker 9: move them wherever you want. You know, he's the queen

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Speaker 9: of the chessboard. And the fact that he can do

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Speaker 9: whatever you want him to do, and you have the

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Speaker 9: ability that you can line him up in the backfield,

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Speaker 9: you can put him on the end of the line,

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Speaker 9: he can line up in the slot, out wide, you

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Speaker 9: can bring him in motion, you can bring him as

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Speaker 9: a lead blocker. He's just there's really an endless amount

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Speaker 9: of things that he can do to impact the game. Run, pass,

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Speaker 9: pass protection, across the board. So I agree, I as

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Speaker 9: good as McCaffery is. Don't get me wrong, he's you know,

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Speaker 9: reigning Offensive Player of the Year for a reason. I

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Speaker 9: played with him. I saw it up close in person.

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Speaker 9: He is the best player on their team. But you

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Speaker 9: could I would agree with you. I would argue that

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Speaker 9: George Kittle might be the most important player on their team,

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Speaker 9: just because he can really impact the game with or

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Speaker 9: without the ball. And you know, there's just not a

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Speaker 9: lot of guys that's height end position that can have

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Speaker 9: that level of impact if they're not impacting it through

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Speaker 9: the air in the passing game.

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Speaker 2: All right, Greg, one more question I want to find

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Speaker 2: out about these Seahawks right now. They start three to zero,

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Speaker 2: and now they've lost five out of the last six, and

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Speaker 2: you have a rookie coach that's replacing a legend.

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Speaker 3: How is Mike McDonald holding up right now?

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Speaker 2: What are your impressions of where he is mentally at

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Speaker 2: this point of his rookie season as a head coach?

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I think I think mentally and all that,

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Speaker 9: I think these guys are so resilient anyone who's been

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Speaker 9: around high level ball. And obviously he's played in a

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Speaker 9: lot of big time moments as a decordinator, both of

660
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Speaker 9: the college and at the NFL level, just as recently

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Speaker 9: with a really good Baltimore team the last few years.

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Speaker 9: So that kind of stuff doesn't really save you know,

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Speaker 9: these guys at this level. But you know, listen, there's

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Speaker 9: probably some frustration. He's a defensive minded guy, and you know,

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Speaker 9: they they put they hang their hat on being good

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Speaker 9: on their side of the ball when you're the head

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Speaker 9: coach and you're also heavily involved in the play calling

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Speaker 9: on the defensive side, So there's no question they've got

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Speaker 9: to be better.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 9: And I think everyone has all these questions about Geno

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Speaker 9: and the ten to ten interceptions and the miss throws

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Speaker 9: and the pass heavy offense. I think they could take

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Speaker 9: a lot of pressure off of Gino and be able

675
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Speaker 9: to spend a little bit more time running the ball

676
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Speaker 9: with Tennis Walker and being operating out of neutral downs

677
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 9: in the pech play action game and under center if

678
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Speaker 9: the defense played a little bit better. But I think

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Speaker 9: right now, until further notice, Geno and these offensive skill

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Speaker 9: players or the strength of this roster are they have

681
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Speaker 9: to come into a game, especially a game like today,

682
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Speaker 9: and say, hey, we got to score thirty to win.

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Speaker 9: And then for every stop that the defense of Seattle

684
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 9: can get, every field goal in the red zone, that

685
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Speaker 9: they force a takeaway, a three and out, a punt,

686
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Speaker 9: that thirty number kind of starts trickling down, but bumping

687
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Speaker 9: out of the gates, they've got to be aggressive on offense,

688
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 9: they've got to continue to push the ball downfield and

689
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Speaker 9: try to challenge San Francisco in the passing game, albeit

690
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 9: making good decisions at the quarterback position. That's really been

691
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Speaker 9: their big hurdle. And then defensively, they have to find

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Speaker 9: a way to get some stops and that's been a

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Speaker 9: challenge for them this year. And you know this forty

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Speaker 9: nine or offense, you're not going to get a lot

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Speaker 9: of three and out, so when you get in the

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Speaker 9: red zone, you got to force field goals. That's the

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Speaker 9: one area that this forty nine er team has really

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Speaker 9: struggled with it is converting They got the most red

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Speaker 9: zone trips in the league and just not converting touchdowns

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Speaker 9: at a very high percentage. So that's really that's probably

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Speaker 9: the biggest achilles field right now. And this can't if

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Speaker 9: you're Seattle, this can't be the day that you allow

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Speaker 9: San Francisco to find their groove in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: Well, no one breaks it down better than this man.

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Speaker 2: That's why we love to have them on our show.

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Speaker 1: Greg.

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Speaker 2: We always appreciate the time we'll be watching Seahawks forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers.

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Speaker 9: Thanks Greg, all right, thanks thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: That's greg Olsen. By the way, Rich Justin Tucker just

711
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Speaker 2: missed another field goal.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is.

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Speaker 2: A fifty yarder, but forty seven and fifty yards everyone

714
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Speaker 2: else seems to be automatic. Justin Tucker oh for two

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Speaker 2: on field goal attempts. They showed John Harby's coach on

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Speaker 2: the sideline. He was shaking his head like, what the

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Speaker 2: f is going on with a future Hall of Fame

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00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: field goal kicker? Three nothing, Steelers a minute to go

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Speaker 2: in the first quarter. All right, we're rolling on here.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to cover. Eight games going on

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Speaker 2: right now in the NFL. This is red Zone radio.

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Speaker 10: Golf up under center, single back behind him, these gifts

723
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Speaker 10: on second down, they give it to Jamir hesitates guts

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Speaker 10: left looking for the edge, so the end.

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Speaker 2: Zone touchdown Detroit Lyons look to the left side, didn't

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Speaker 2: find anything there, fun out and look left wide open,

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Speaker 2: takes it to the house.

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Speaker 3: That's ninety seven to won the ticket.

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Speaker 2: Lions Radio Network Lions with a big fourteen to three lead.

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Speaker 2: No surprise over the Jaguars early on in that game.

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Speaker 2: Once again, this is red Zone Radio. We Alive from

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Speaker 2: the ti iraq dot Com studio. Steve hartbin rich Ornberger.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen the Jets game, but okay,

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Speaker 2: this is where I almost feel like Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 2: going to walk out. So Colts lead this game ten

736
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Speaker 2: to nothing. Jets have the ball on their own thirty

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Speaker 2: nine yard line, fourth and one on their own thirty

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Speaker 2: nine yard line, and they decide to go for it.

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Speaker 2: And it seems like one of those situations where you know,

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Speaker 2: because Aaron Rodgers is really good at drawing teams offside, right,

741
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Speaker 2: so he's back there in the shotgun. He's barking out

742
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Speaker 2: signals and the tight end goes in motion. Tyler Conklin.

743
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: Conklin stops behind the center and takes a direct snap

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Speaker 2: and goes nowhere.

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Speaker 3: I've stopped in his tracks.

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Speaker 2: Turnover on downs, and now the Colts, already up ten nothing,

747
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: have the ball in Jets territory, and of course, as

748
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: this play completely unravels, there's Aaron Rodgers with the best

749
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Speaker 2: seat in the house to watch this debacle. This might

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Speaker 2: have been one of the worst calls I've ever seen

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Speaker 2: in my life, in your own territory at home. Already

752
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: down ten to nothing, and now they hand the ball

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Speaker 2: right back to the Colts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that coaches can panic when they get

755
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Speaker 4: into a situation where where they have an early deficit

756
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: they're facing. They get too cute. Sometimes you see it

757
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 4: all across the NFL. You see it a lot more

758
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Speaker 4: in college football because I think that's more of a

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Speaker 4: proving ground than the NFL, as you have more polished

760
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: coordinators obviously making their ranks up to these NFL teams.

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Speaker 4: But it still happens. And I don't understand how anybody

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Speaker 4: in today's football could look at ten points as feeling

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Speaker 4: somewhat insurmountable, even if the numbers suggest that you should

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Speaker 4: be aggressive in a situation like that, Like if the

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Speaker 4: book tells you, like in Blackjack, hey you got to

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Speaker 4: hit on this because the dealer's showing this card, or hey,

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Speaker 4: you got to stay on this because the dealer's showing

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Speaker 4: this card.

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Speaker 1: You don't always go by the book.

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Speaker 4: You don't always go Sometimes it's about what you've seen.

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00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: Not everything happens in a vacuum. And so I think

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Speaker 4: it's a bad choice and they'll pay for it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, there's a good news and not so

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Speaker 2: good news for the Cleveland Browns. Good news Jameis Winston

775
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Speaker 2: just threw an eighty nine yard touchdown pass to Jerry Judy.

776
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Speaker 2: The bad news is there's no extra point on that.

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Speaker 2: One extra point was missed. I don't know what happened there.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, seven six, all right, seven six Saints. But anyway,

779
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Speaker 2: eighty nine yard. See, that's the thing about Jameis Winston, right,

780
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Speaker 2: he's one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's boomer Bus.

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Speaker 3: It's Boomer Bus. That's what he's always been this way.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: You know, is statistical season in that last year in

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00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: Tampa will go down the record books. I mean, with

786
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Speaker 2: thirty three touchdowns, thirty interceptions, over five thousand yards passing

787
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Speaker 2: that year was absolutely insane what he did. I believe

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Speaker 2: he had seven pick sixes that year, which was one

789
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Speaker 2: of the most remarkable records of all time. But anyway, yeah,

790
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: immediately though, the States have answered back in fact, whether

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Speaker 2: they just scoring seventy one yard touchdown pass from Derek

792
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Speaker 2: Carr to all this scantling. So now fourteen to six

793
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Speaker 2: Saints take the lead over a Cleveland Browns team that

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Speaker 2: we keep have to remind ourselves, rich this was a

795
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Speaker 2: playoff team a year ago, well.

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Speaker 4: They were, and the Saints looked like a playoff team

797
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Speaker 4: earlier this season, and they started kind of crawling back

798
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Speaker 4: into you know those old ways against the Falcons last week.

799
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Speaker 4: That a season high five passes of twenty yards or

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Speaker 4: more in last week's victory over Atlanta. The Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 4: they're kind of licking their wounds going into their bye

802
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 4: week after a Week nine loss to the Chargers where

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Speaker 4: they gave up a pair of deep touchdown passes to

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Speaker 4: La So there's a little bit of what the Saints

805
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: have done well very recently is exactly what the Browns

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Speaker 4: need to shore up.

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Speaker 1: And again it's reared its head.

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Speaker 4: This Cleveland, or should say this Cleveland team seems to

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00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 4: be able to put up points in a hurry when

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Speaker 4: Jamis is on and the Saints can answer.

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Speaker 1: So we may see a shootout here in this one.

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Speaker 3: Steelers defense is good.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you an illustration, Lamar Jackson, your leader

814
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Speaker 2: right now in the clubhouse, in terms of the MVP award,

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Speaker 2: is four of twelve passing, four of twelve passing. Early

816
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Speaker 2: on in this game, Ravens have had two justin Tucker

817
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: miss field goals. It's not like the Steelers offense is

818
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: doing anything Russell Wilson five of eight for sixteen yards.

819
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Speaker 2: It's been sacked twice, six net yards. Steelers only have

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Speaker 2: thirty one yards of offense. But they're winning. Isn't that

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Speaker 2: just the story with the Steelers week after week? Yeah,

822
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Speaker 2: But but they're winning somehow, some way. All Right, we

823
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: got a lot going on with these eight games. Are

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Speaker 2: actually heading toward halftime in many of these games right

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Speaker 2: now for all the latest, keep it right here.

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Speaker 3: This is Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 1: Here's the snack sprint, all right.

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Speaker 3: Pro Darnold back to pass hitting the pros.

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Speaker 4: Finds Addison over the metal twenty five twenty.

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Speaker 11: Here's that ten to five touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Suregon Addison put this fourth touchdown this season, hits up

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Speaker 2: forty seven yards right. That is k Fan one hundred

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Speaker 2: point three FM. Vikings Radio Network. Vikings have just scored

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Speaker 2: again on a Sam Darnold keeper from one yard out.

835
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Speaker 2: So the Vikings spending the extra point now with a

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Speaker 2: thirteen to three lead on the road against the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 2: Once again, this is Red Zone Radio. Steve Hartman and

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Speaker 2: Rich Ormberger with you. We're broadcasting live from the tay

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Speaker 2: these games, rich are going pretty much as advertised. Let's

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Speaker 2: stay with the Vikings though for a moment here, because

845
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: this is a team you know, got off to that

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Speaker 2: phenomenal start, undefeated start, and over the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnald has not been as sharp as we saw

848
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Speaker 2: him earlier in this year. Now, right now, he's off

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Speaker 2: to a great start. After that long touchdown pass to

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Speaker 2: Addison forty seven yards series eight of eleven, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighteen yards, one touchdown. I know I've asked you

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Speaker 2: in weeks past. I'm gonna ask you again. Do you

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Speaker 2: think Sam Donald can hold up for the entire season?

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Speaker 1: Boy?

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Speaker 4: That is the question of the hour, because Sam Donald

856
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: he looked really good to start the season and then actually,

857
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: oddly they're onto their third straight AFC South matchup here.

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00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: They've won BOLF against the Colts and the Jaguars. But

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Speaker 4: he didn't look particularly great now turn it over the

860
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Speaker 4: ball three times in each of those games, However, his

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Speaker 4: defense has bailed him out Minnesota during those that two

862
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 4: game stretch, they first they forced five turnovers. So look,

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Speaker 4: that's the markings of a very very good and well

864
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Speaker 4: coached team. And I think Kevin O'Connell has done amazing

865
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Speaker 4: work in Minnesota, you know, sort of revamping the career

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Speaker 4: of Kirk Cousins after Zimmer moved on from Minnesota, and

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Speaker 4: the work he's done with Sam Darnold. I mean, it

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Speaker 4: is remarkable how much he's gotten out of him already

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Speaker 4: to this point this season. But Sam's got to get

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Speaker 4: back to what he was doing. I think when a

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Speaker 4: quarterback starts with a new program, with a new franchise,

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Speaker 4: sometimes he feels like, Okay, I just got.

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Speaker 1: To learn this system and not screw things up.

874
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: And then when they become more comfortable and confident, they

875
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: start thinking in the terms like all right, I know

876
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 4: how to do this. I've got a really help this team,

877
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: and they start playing outside the boundaries of the system.

878
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: They start taking more of the game into their own hands.

879
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: When Sam was doing a lot of listening and learning

880
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: and playing a little bit tighter, he was actually doing

881
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 4: a better job for Minnesota.

882
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: I think now that.

883
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 4: He's become more comfortable and confident in Kevin O'Connell's offense,

884
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: He's actually playing a little bit worse. I'd like to

885
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 4: see him get back to becoming more of a game manager,

886
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: taking what the defense is giving you as opposed to

887
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 4: trying to unleash it and getting this team into trouble.

888
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: Rams in a must win situation, I think. I know

889
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: it's early and they got on a great run. But

890
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: after a disappointing loss at home to Miami last week

891
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: game the Rams could have won d they played well,

892
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 2: they did not another touchdown pass here for Matthew Stafford.

893
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: The first one was the Cooper Cup, this one to

894
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: Pooka Nikoua. So apparently Nikoole was hurt on the play.

895
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: Do we have any update on that?

896
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: But Nikooa with the touchdown, Rams take the lead over

897
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: the Patriots.

898
00:43:59,160 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: All right.

899
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: I want to get off base for just a second here,

900
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: because coming off a big college football Saturday yesterday, one

901
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: of the great stories in college football rich is this

902
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: Colorado Buffalo's team. As Dion Sanders has proven, without a

903
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: shadow of a doubt he knows how to be a

904
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: head coach. And I'm one of those that doubted him

905
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: last year. I'm eating my words right now. Dion has

906
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: done a phenomenal job to get that program back on track,

907
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden people are like, Okay,

908
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: Colorado's great, but there's a job waiting for him in Dallas,

909
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: and I remind people again take it for what it's worth.

910
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones has hired eight coaches since he took over

911
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: ownership of that team member They only had one coach

912
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: before he was there, Tom Landry, and all eight of

913
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: them were white men. That being said, Deon Sanders was

914
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl champion as a member of the Dallas Cowboys,

915
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: so he has history with that franchise. If you were

916
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: advising Dion Sanders and he got the opportunity to be

917
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, would you advise

918
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: him to take that job or would you encourage him

919
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: to stay exactly where he is right now?

920
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 4: Well, it depends on his goals in the NFL. If

921
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: his goal is to coach his son, the answer is no,

922
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: I would advise him against it, because there is no

923
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: way Jerry Jones is going to eat the money that

924
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: he's spent on Dak Prescott in guarantees in trade away

925
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 4: dak to make room for his son should Or Sanders,

926
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: who's going to be available in the draft. I feel

927
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: like this is going to be a package deal that

928
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: Dion Sanders would sooner take a job in the NFL

929
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: to a worse football team or a team who presumptively

930
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: has a worse roster to coach his son than he

931
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: would take on a challenge like coaching the Dallas Cowboys,

932
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: America's team with a narcissistic own like Jerry Jones.

933
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening.

934
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: So I agree with you a thousand percent. I mean,

935
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders, why would you want that job right now?

936
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: No?

937
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 2: No, no, you have all this momentum going everything else.

938
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: As you said, we'll see where Shoudor goes. He is

939
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: expected to be the number one overall pick in the draft.

940
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: It looks like he and Hunter, by the way, will

941
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: be the top two picks in this year's NFL draft.

942
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: And by the way, which like so if he is

943
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 4: the top pick in the NFL draft, that means that

944
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 4: most likely should Or is going to a real bad

945
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 4: football team, and most likely it's a team that would

946
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: already be shopping for a new head coach.

947
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: So it kind of feels like hand and glove just

948
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: like it did.

949
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: Did he take over a great, like historically great program

950
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: with the Buffs.

951
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: But by the way, just a quick note here, Yeah,

952
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: one team that could be in the running for that

953
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: number one overall pick the New York Giants. Yeah, they're

954
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: the other long term franchise that's never had a black

955
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: head coach.

956
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: It's interesting, isn't it.

957
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: The Cowboys?

958
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: Like, how how in twenty twenty four is that still?

959
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's only four teams that have

960
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: never had a black head coach. I out of thirty two,

961
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: think about that, only four, but two of them are

962
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the Giants. And if Brian Dable is

963
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: let go after this debacle, yeah, shdor Sanders number one

964
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: overall pick. Giants have to lose a few more games

965
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: before they get there. But anyway, I just wanted to

966
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: get your thoughts. I'm one hundred percent of lockstep with you.

967
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: If I was Deon Sanders, the last thing on my

968
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: mind would be going to Dallas right now. That seems

969
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: like a lose lose. The Jets are down thirteen to

970
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: nothing in this game, and Anthony Richardson is seven to

971
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: nine passing for ninety nine yards, which is really good

972
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: for him. Aaron Rodgers is six of nine for sixteen yards.

973
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: Oh no, he has. Their longest pass play is seven yards.

974
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: Devonte Adams has two catches for zero yards. So you

975
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: have Garrett Wilson, you have Breise Hall, you have DeVante Adams.

976
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: You can't say this team is devoid of talent. No,

977
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: and yet they have nine yards passed. They have thirty

978
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: three total yards. Get this, thirty three total yards with

979
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: two minutes to go in the first half the Colts.

980
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm at home.

981
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say something I didn't forecast saying at the

982
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 4: start of this season because I had still an abundance

983
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: of belief in Aaron Rodgers' talent and the fact that

984
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: he would find a way to make this situation work

985
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: in New York. If the New York Jets had a

986
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 4: better quarterback, they would be a much better football team.

987
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 4: And that is period, end of statement. If the New

988
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 4: York Jets had Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Justin

989
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: Herbert Jalen Hurts, go down the list, they would be

990
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 4: a much better football team. Aaron Rodgers has been hired

991
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: to be the cure and he's part of the symptom.

992
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: I would bench him right now, Rich, I just I'm sorry.

993
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: Doesn't hurt his legacy. In my opinion, his legacy will

994
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: be his glory years of the Green Bay Packers.

995
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: Look, could he like Youli, got benched. It didn't hurt

996
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: his legacy?

997
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: Apparently not. They're still buzzing about the wather or not

998
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: he's a first ballot Hall of Famer, which is ridiculous.

999
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: He's not, but you know you want to put him

1000
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: first ballot.

1001
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 2: Whatever.

1002
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 3: But for Aaron Rodgers right now, he's out of it.

1003
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: Like he is. He is playing like he is completely

1004
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: checked out.

1005
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 4: He's playing like a guy who's in his forties who's

1006
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 4: just recently torn his achilles. Look, I mean, I don't

1007
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: want to make a direct comparison because it's not opt

1008
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: but we watched many of us who are fight fans

1009
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 4: and who loved Mike Tyson and as a fighter, yeah,

1010
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: as a boxer, Mike Tyson take on a man thirty

1011
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 4: one years his junior and he lost.

1012
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. I knew when I saw the knee brace on

1013
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: the right knee, it was like, Okay, why is he

1014
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: out there? Yeah, yeah, he literally could not.

1015
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: I fully believe that Mike Tyson still had ko power

1016
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: left in his fists. You saw moments where it felt

1017
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 4: like he backed off laying the dynamite on Paul and

1018
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: getting him into trouble.

1019
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I'm glad you saw the same thing.

1020
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: He pulled a couple of punches.

1021
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 4: There's no question, and you saw it. Trademark Tyson. So

1022
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: he would duck punches, he would leap forward, and he

1023
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: would follow up with.

1024
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: The right cross.

1025
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then that was before he hit him hit

1026
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 4: his opponent with an uppercut.

1027
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: Look, I watched every Mike Tyson I think was so stage.

1028
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: It was absolutely unbelievable.

1029
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: So I think Mike helped out Paul, and I think

1030
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 4: then in the late.

1031
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: Round he got twenty million dollars to do that.

1032
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: Yeah he did.

1033
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: And I think Paul carried Mike in the late rounds.

1034
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 4: So I think this was a brother in law agreement,

1035
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: whether it was on PAP or if it was just

1036
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: a handshake behind the scenes, whatever it was, they were

1037
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: talking to each other in the ring. I imagine it

1038
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: was Hey, good job, we're really selling this thing. Like

1039
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 4: I can't imagine that this was the outcome that it

1040
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: would have.

1041
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: Been if it was like the Floyd Mayweather McGregor fight.

1042
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 2: It was the exact same thing. I mean, it was

1043
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 2: completely staged. All both made a huge amount of money

1044
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: and walk away unscathed.

1045
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: Yep.

1046
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: So that's exactly what that was. By the way, I

1047
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: will say this for Netflix. I watched that. I had

1048
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: a reset because of the buffering every two minutes, yep, yep,

1049
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: every two minutes. And they got a NFL double header

1050
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: coming up on Christmas Day.

1051
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: It's gonna be well, they'll get much lower capacity. It'll

1052
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: be something more like twenty twenty five MILLI instead of

1053
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: over one hundred million people tuning in at once.

1054
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 3: If there's even a hint of that.

1055
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: No, no, I agree, I agree they got some problems.

1056
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: For one second, the comparison I'm making you have the

1057
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: the fifty eight year old Mike Tyson who's at the

1058
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: end of his rope. When when an athlete is done,

1059
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: they're done. Yeah, okay, and I don't want to stick

1060
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 4: a fork into Aaron Rodgers. But but you know that's

1061
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: that's not my place because I'd rather I'd rather he

1062
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: decide when he wants to lay down the sword for good,

1063
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 4: and that is a very personal decision to make. Every

1064
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: athlete dies two deaths. You know, when you put when

1065
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: you put in the ground, just like everybody else. But

1066
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: you also have to mourn the loss of your career

1067
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: when it's over, because there's no picking it up again

1068
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 4: unless you're Iron Mike. I guess, but that was a

1069
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: farce of a fight. Look, the point I'm trying to

1070
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: make is Aaron Rodgers, if he's not at the end,

1071
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: he's very very near the end. And and again I'll repeat,

1072
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: you put in a younger fighter in the ring with

1073
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 4: Jake Paul, that's a much different outcome. You put a

1074
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: younger quote unquote better And that's an accurate statement at

1075
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: this point quarterback in New York, that's a better football team,

1076
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 4: and there's no questioning it. The Jets are being buoyed

1077
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 4: by a defense that stingy, and that alone because their

1078
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: quarterback has failed them.

1079
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of quarterbacks, Jared goff is thirteen

1080
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: to sixteen, two hundred and five yards in a touchdown.

1081
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 2: The Lions are leading the Jaguars twenty eight to three.

1082
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: Like every time I look down, they've scored another touchdown.

1083
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: Total yards in this game, Lions have three hundred and

1084
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: six Jacksonville forty six. Wow, And I would say that

1085
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: Peterson's days in Jacksonville are over.

1086
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 5: This might be Ben Johnson auditioning for Peterson's job right now.

1087
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: And if I was him, would I want that job?

1088
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: It's a good question. I mean, if you're if you're

1089
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: one of the hockeys.

1090
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, he was a hot commodity last year and

1091
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Speaker 2: decided to stay in Detroit.

1092
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: You're gonna leave Detroit for that job?

1093
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: I like? But I like Trevor Lawrence?

1094
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: Do you I do?

1095
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: I was up to see.

1096
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 3: I picked this team to win their division.

1097
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 5: They share are pieces that you can build around in Jacksonville.

1098
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 5: I think you need a wide receiver. I think you

1099
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 5: need to improve upon the offensive line. But like I

1100
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 5: see the vision there, Tank Bigsby and Travis Etn are

1101
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 5: pieces you can work with. Yah, Charlie Johnson Stior, don't

1102
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 5: forget about.

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00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: Kay this. This defense has given up over three hundred

1104
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 2: yards in the first half. You're talking offense, how about

1105
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: the defense? All right, We'll roll on here. We got

1106
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: eight games going on right now. Halftimes are right around

1107
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: the corner. This is red zone.

1108
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 3: Radio takes the snap.

1109
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: Here comes the blitz. He looks right, steps up, checks

1110
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: it down.

1111
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 3: Price Hall makes the catch. What's left at the twenty

1112
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: at the test.

1113
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 4: Set the fifteenth, he's at the five touchdown.

1114
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: Price Hall found a crease.

1115
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: Had he found a lane to the end zone for

1116
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: a Jet touchdown. That's Q one OZH four point three

1117
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: Jets Radio Network.

1118
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 2: I told you Rich, do not count out Aaron Rodgers,

1119
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: and the Jets do not count them out. They trail

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Speaker 2: the Colts thirteen to seven. Once again, I think nighted

1121
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: a team. It doesn't. It happens every time. So when

1122
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: I was talking about Aaron Rodgers should be benched, he

1123
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: was sporting a passer rating in this game of sixteen.

1124
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Since then, his passer rating this game is now up

1125
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: to one oh nine. So again, you need motivation. He

1126
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: needs a jumpstart for your team. He needs something to

1127
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: motivate the guys. Come to me, because as soon as

1128
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm critical that team suddenly becomes a juggernaut, or on

1129
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: the flip side, as soon as I start overpraising a team,

1130
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: they go into a free fall. So the Jets trail

1131
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: that Colts thirteen to seven at the half. Let's see

1132
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: if the Jets at home can come back to win

1133
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: this one once the red zone radio here, we're live

1134
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: from the Tie iraq dot comstaday is It's pretty amazing

1135
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: how it happens almost every single time.

1136
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well listen, Aaron Rodgers didn't exactly make you right,

1137
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 4: but Breise Hall did. Yeah, that was just a five

1138
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 4: yard checkdown because Aaron ran out of time in the pocket.

1139
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 4: He was surveying the downfield. Colts did a nice job

1140
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: in coverage deep, but whoops, they forgot about the speedster

1141
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: over the middle. So he catches the ball underneath zone

1142
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 4: coverage and literally sprints pass like two or three defenders

1143
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 4: down the left sideline untouched for twenty nine yard touchdown reception.

1144
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: So look, it doesn't matter how you get in the

1145
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 4: N zone. You just got to do it often enough

1146
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 4: to beat the team you're facing. I mean, that's Look,

1147
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 4: this is a scoreboard sport, it's not. It's not like

1148
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 4: college football where you have to win with style.

1149
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: You just have to win.

1150
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 4: So whether the Jets win ugly or they win pretty,

1151
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: whether the Jets pile up points or they win with defense,

1152
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. If they want to stay in the

1153
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: wildcard conversation, they must find a way to beat the Colts.

1154
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: And right now it's a ball game, all right.

1155
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 2: Updating some of the scores, the Ravens have finally taken

1156
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: the lead seven to six over the Steelers on a

1157
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: Derreck Henry run. By the way, the overall there on

1158
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: this game was forty eight and a half. I took

1159
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: the under yesterday looking pretty good thirteen points forty eight

1160
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: and a half over under. We mentioned the Jets Colts game.

1161
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: Saints lead the Browns fourteen to six, minute to go

1162
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: on the first half. There Rams over the Patriots fourteen

1163
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: to ten, minute to go on the half there halftime,

1164
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: Dolphins lead the Raiders, but only ten to six. Viking's

1165
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: up sixteen to three on the road against the Titans

1166
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: minut and a half to go in the half there

1167
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: almost a half time. Mercifully for the Jaguars, they trailed

1168
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: the Lions twenty eight to three. And how about this,

1169
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: Bears lead the Packers ten to seven at the half.

1170
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: Jordan Love eight of twelve ninety nine yards a touchdown.

1171
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Speaker 2: The score Caleb Williams nine to twelve eighty five yards

1172
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: a clean slate, no interceptions.

1173
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Speaker 3: Big story here. Caleb Williams sixty yards rushing.

1174
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: In this game, so his legs have, at least for

1175
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: the first half, helped the Bears to a lead.

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Speaker 12: Can I ask you guys a question real quick about

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00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 12: the Bears here? Do you guys remember after the I

1178
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 12: think it was the Colts game the Bears played, Matt

1179
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 12: Eberflus publicly said that he wanted Caleb to be less

1180
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 12: risk averse or be throw the ball with less risk,

1181
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 12: you know, take care of the ball. Do you think

1182
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 12: that might have been? Like what hurt the growth that

1183
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 12: we've saw from Caleb Earler in the season.

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00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: What's part of his game?

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Speaker 12: Like, Yeah, that's that's how he plays, is by putting

1186
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 12: the ball in spots where it might get picked off.

1187
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 12: But it also might be a forty card.

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Speaker 3: Game, right. I mean, I'm very curious.

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Speaker 2: I've never understood I understanding Rich You've talked about this

1190
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: many times about the quarterbacks that are mobile, they have

1191
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: a shorter shelf life.

1192
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 3: But if that's your game, you got to use it

1193
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 3: while you can.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, a great point that you brought up there,

1195
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 4: Bow and Steve, Yeah, we've talked about this many times,

1196
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 4: you have to lean into it.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wants to have a quarterback that's gonna man the

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Speaker 4: position for twenty years, like Tom Brady did in New England.

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Speaker 4: But he's an albatross. He's an exception, he's not the rule.

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00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 4: Most quarterbacks aren't gonna last that long. Most quarterbacks are

1202
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: going to fade than that. Most quarterbacks are gonna have

1203
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: a shelf life anyway, whether they're a pocket passer or

1204
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 4: a dual threat quarterback like for example, Russell Wilson or

1205
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 4: Cam Newton. You know, I mean, there is a shelf light.

1206
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 4: There is an expiration date. We've seen it over time,

1207
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 4: so lean into it. Caleb Williams, you know, this conversation

1208
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 4: reminds me of something Wade Phillips said to me and

1209
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 4: Steve years ago.

1210
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: We were interviewing the old coach and he goes, hey, listen.

1211
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 4: He was like, there's a lot of offensive and defensive

1212
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: coordinators and head coaches frankly who will tout their great system.

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Speaker 1: And he put that in air quotes. Yeah, and he goes, well,

1214
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: If you have a great player who can't play great

1216
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: in your great system, you have a bad system.

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Speaker 1: So If the Bears believed enough in Caleb Williams talent.

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Speaker 4: To take him with the first overall draft pick of

1219
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: this year's NFL draft and he's not playing well, you gotta.

1220
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: Start shining the flashlight on yourself.

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00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 4: You have to start saying, what are we not doing

1222
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 4: to amplify his talents that we thought so highly of

1223
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 4: that we could have selected anybody, and we chose him.

1224
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Speaker 1: So they got to figure this out that I agree

1225
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Speaker 1: with you bo.

1226
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Speaker 4: They got to start leaning into what he does best,

1227
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 4: what comes naturally to him, and then build off there.

1228
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Speaker 3: All right, the Jags are on their way back.

1229
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: They kicked a field goal right before and to a

1230
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Speaker 2: half to cut the lines, lead to twenty eight to six.

1231
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Speaker 3: One's getting spicy?

1232
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: What is that?

1233
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: And then Doug Peterson ran to the sideline to do

1234
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: a quick interview on you know, how do you feel

1235
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: now that you got that field goal before they have?

1236
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: Can I tell you about it?

1237
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: In that lead to twenty eight to six?

1238
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Speaker 4: If I were a head coach, this happens in college

1239
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 4: football too, because everything you know, they both influence each other,

1240
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 4: so networks if they get away within the NFL, they.

1241
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: Want to do it in college also, man, oh man.

1242
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 4: If I'm a head coach and I'm in the middle

1243
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: of a football game and all of a sudden, I

1244
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 4: have my sports information director or my public relations manager, yeah,

1245
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 4: tugging on the back of my shirt and like, hey, coach, coach,

1246
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 4: you gotta do a quick interview with the sideline reporter.

1247
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: I'm going to be so pissed. I mean, can you imagine, Like,

1248
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 4: it's just it's so absurd to me. Why can't we

1249
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 4: wait to halftime? What nuggets of wisdom are we getting

1250
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 4: from a head coach in game? It's all coach speak.

1251
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: Just leave them alone, let them coach well.

1252
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, they say, they do that for

1253
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: the audience, right, we're giving the fans what they want.

1254
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: Do we really want that? No, no, we don't care

1255
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: about that. We just want to watch the game. All right,

1256
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: Let's find out what's trending right now. And I been

1257
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: watching Monsey's face route because I was going to try

1258
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: to get a read on her fantasy team.

1259
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Speaker 7: Oh, you know, not too shabby.

1260
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: You've had a little bit of a mixed reaction going on.

1261
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not too shabby.

1262
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 8: I got players playing later more than anything, but not

1263
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 8: too shabby. For me, I had to play I'm saying,

1264
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 8: I told you, guys, Drake may today because I had

1265
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 8: Baker Mayfield on a bye and then Dak Prescott died

1266
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 8: on me.

1267
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 7: So I picked up Drake may and he's not too shabby.

1268
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Speaker 8: So it's a close game, and that's what I need

1269
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 8: so he can keep throwing the ball, you know what

1270
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 8: I mean.

1271
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Speaker 7: It's like, I don't need to blow out here. I

1272
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 7: need a close game so he can keep throwing the

1273
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 7: ball and doing what he does.

1274
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 8: Eight games going out right now, guys, pretty much either

1275
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 8: at halftime or headed into halftime.

1276
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 7: We'll start here with the Bears, who finally got in

1277
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 7: the end zone. I think it was like more than.

1278
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 8: Twenty five consecutive possessions without actually getting in the end

1279
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 8: zone for the Bears. Well, Roshawn Johnson has changed that.

1280
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 8: The Bears are now on top of the Packers at

1281
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 8: ten seven. It's all lines against the Jags completely.

1282
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 7: David Montgomery and the.

1283
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 8: End zone twice. Eight carries, fifty one yards, two touchdowns.

1284
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 8: I'm on Ross Saint Brown seven catches eighty one yards,

1285
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 8: one touchdown. Jared Goff two hundred and five yards and

1286
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 8: a touchdown in the air twenty eight to six is

1287
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 8: a score there.

1288
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 7: The Vikings are beating the Titans sixteen to three.

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Speaker 8: Sam Darnold one hundred and forty eight yards and a

1290
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 8: touchdown in the air. He also has a rushing touchdown

1291
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 8: so far. The Dolphins beating the Raiders ten to six.

1292
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 8: They're about to start the third quarter in this one.

1293
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 8: The Rams extended their lead a little bit over the

1294
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 8: Patriots fourteen to ten. Is the score headed to halftime

1295
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 8: as we speak. The Browns, I think did they let

1296
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 8: them kick again? The Browns missed a field goal, but

1297
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 8: I think I saw a flag, so I don't.

1298
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 7: Know if they went for it again.

1299
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 8: But the Saints are beating the Browns fourteen to six

1300
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 8: right now, and the Browns still have.

1301
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 7: The ball knocking on the door to score before halftime.

1302
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Speaker 8: Cults are beating the Jets, but the Jets did get

1303
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 8: in the end zone. Aaron Rodgers connecting with Breeze Hall

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Speaker 8: for a twenty nine yard touchdown. Pass culture up thirteen

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01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 8: to seven, though, and the Ravens Dereck Henry rushing touchdown.

1306
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 8: He has scored at least one touchdown every week this

1307
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 8: season with the Ravens, so eleven for eleven so far,

1308
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 8: and the Ravens are beating the Steelers seven six.

1309
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 7: There's about thirty eight seconds to go in the game.

1310
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Speaker 7: See if the Ravens can get some more points before halftime.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Monsie, thank you very

1312
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: very much once again Red Zone Radio. Here, you know,

1313
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: Rich speaking of great running backs. It's like a two

1314
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: man battle right now for the rushing title between Dereck

1315
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: Henry and Saquon Barkley. And it always gets back to

1316
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: the old argument about how do you define most valuable player.

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01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: Here's what I see in Philadelphia right now is the

1318
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: Eagles suddenly have found themselves again. I don't think you

1319
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: can underscore, especially since Hurts is not exactly lighting it up,

1320
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: the impact that Saquon Barkley has had on that football team.

1321
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: He's so excited to get out of New York, excited

1322
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: to put on an Eagles uniform. And I know Lamar

1323
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: Jackson's been putting up some pretty impressive numbers this year.

1324
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: But if you actually think about it, has there been

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01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: a more valuable player so far to his team than

1326
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley has been for the Eagles.

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01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: Ooh, that is such a good question. You know, we're

1328
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: just talking to Greg Olsen earlier.

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 4: Hit'll comes to mind because I think without him, I

1330
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 4: think the forty nine Ers season could have slumped. He

1331
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 4: saved them in at least two games, filling in admirably

1332
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 4: and filling up the stat the box score.

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Speaker 1: For brock Purty, I would make an argument for him.

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01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 4: Sam Donald comes to mind, even though he hasn't played

1335
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 4: well through this middle portion of the season. The Vikings,

1336
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 4: after losing JJ McCarthy, their presumptive starter, Sam Donald comes

1337
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 4: in and is playing like an MVP candidate to start

1338
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 4: the season.

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01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: You know.

1340
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 4: So, there's a couple of guys when you look around

1341
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 4: the NFL and you think about their team's success without

1342
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 4: that player, could they have had that level of success?

1343
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: And the answer is probably not.

1344
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 4: But Saquon Barkley is certainly certainly on the short list

1345
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 4: of players who have helped save a season or highlight

1346
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: amplify season for a team. And with Philadelphia, if that

1347
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 4: running back is in the backfield, their record looks vastly

1348
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 4: different than it does.

1349
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: Well, let's look at Bob Bo. You had given up

1350
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: on this team a few weeks back. Now obviously you're

1351
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: back with your beloved Eagles. I mean, I'm you know, look,

1352
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: we always look at the MVP as a quarterback award.

1353
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: We haven't had a running back win MVP since Adrian

1354
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: Peterson way back in the day. I mean, and Barkley

1355
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: he ends up you know, he's on pace for nineteen

1356
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 2: hundred yards rushing. Yeah, if he puts up those kind

1357
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 2: of numbers, that's a lot of yards rushing. And I mean,

1358
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: if if they end up winning the East, you know,

1359
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: you know, I would love to see a running back

1360
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: win the MVP. I know it's almost like, well, they'll

1361
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: give them Offensive Player of the Year. No, no, no, no, no, no,

1362
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: Most Valuable Player.

1363
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 12: I don't think that Lamar Jackson should win another one.

1364
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 12: I think there might be some voter fatigue finally coming

1365
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 12: in for him, so maybe you can cross him off

1366
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 12: and then yeah you're down to like Sakwan Derek Henry.

1367
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: But has been really I would for the Eagles.

1368
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 12: I think the the key for them though, has been

1369
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 12: Quiny and Mitchell out of Toledo, the defensive back. He's

1370
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 12: been insanely good. Like you have Eagles fans debating if

1371
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 12: it's Quintanamo Bay or Quinnanamo Bay, as they should call him,

1372
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 12: like they want to give him nicknames already, But if

1373
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 12: you just go look at who he's matched up against

1374
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 12: and how badly he's locking them down, Like they might

1375
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 12: not be on this win streak if it wasn't for him.

1376
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 12: He raised Terry McLaurin from that game on Thursday.

1377
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: That was unreal. Yeah, that was unreal.

1378
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: So you're you're still of the mindset though, if the

1379
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: Eagles win the Super Bowl this year, you would still

1380
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: fire Nick Sirianni.

1381
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 12: It depends on how they win. Yeah, Like if it's

1382
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 12: a blowout. Yeah, if it's a blowout, I don't know

1383
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 12: if you could do that right. But you know, if

1384
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 12: it's like a field goal and you just hand him

1385
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 12: his walking papers as he's holding the trophy on the stage.

1386
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: I would be I, I can't, I can't go this far.

1387
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 12: Do you think Doug Peterson even comes out of the

1388
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 12: half with the Jaguars, Ben Jonson might have to switch sidelines.

1389
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 1: I think they sent him back to lunch.

1390
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 12: You had I and Rappaport like tweet yesterday that if

1391
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 12: the Jaguars get blown out, the changes are going to happen.

1392
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 5: While like Sean Cohn's got his Mega yacht parked off

1393
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 5: of Jacksonville just stunted.

1394
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you guys as we look at

1395
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson. Yeah, I mean, would they be what two

1396
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 2: and ten? I mean, come on, do you think do

1397
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: you think Bill Belichick is ever going to come back?

1398
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: I do.

1399
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Speaker 4: I think I think that he wants Don Shula's record.

1400
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 4: I think there's unfinished business for Bill Belichick. I don't

1401
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 4: think he's going to be back.

1402
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: He went to Jacksonville. It might take five more years,

1403
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: okay to real in Shula's record.

1404
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 3: I mean that's the part of it, right, I mean,

1405
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 3: if you're Belichick.

1406
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: It's a history play behind a mess in New England

1407
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 2: that they're trying to unravel over the next few years.

1408
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: But but what if you really want to walk into

1409
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 2: a bad situation and try to rebuild.

1410
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: That's it.

1411
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Speaker 4: So the answer is no, I don't think he has

1412
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 4: energy or the interest to walk into a situation where

1413
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 4: he has to tear something down to the studs and rebuild.

1414
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 4: But I do think he would be interested in any

1415
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 4: team that has a high level or I should say,

1416
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 4: a high ceiling quarterback, and Jacksonville does have a high

1417
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 4: ceiling quarterback. Trevor Lawrence is not a bad quarterback. Trevor Lawrence.

1418
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 4: I I look, and this is just my opinion. There's

1419
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 4: a lot of people who disagree with me. But I

1420
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 4: think has incredible potential. I think he's been held back

1421
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 4: by a variety of territories.

1422
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 2: Hires somebody rich that can tutor him up. See that

1423
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: Plichick is not that guy.

1424
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: Well, Josh McDaniels is jobless right now.

1425
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 4: I'm just saying it worked with Tom Brady in New

1426
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 4: England for years as Belichick's offensive coordinator, just as the

1427
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 4: head coach doesn't work, but he works well under Bill.

1428
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 12: Is there somewhere Bill could go that he could work

1429
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 12: with Tom Brady again?

1430
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, the Raiders want right Yea.

1431
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 3: I talked about that earlier, but.

1432
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: I know you did, Steve. But he Here's the thing,

1433
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: could he? Lord? You asked me the question, could Tom

1434
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: Brady lore Bill Belichick to the Raiders? I said, yes,

1435
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: I think he could.

1436
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 4: However, if Bill houses Druthers, is he going to go

1437
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 4: to a team that doesn't have a quarterback currently on

1438
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 4: the roster with a high ceiling, high potential. I don't

1439
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 4: think he will because the draft, as he found out

1440
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 4: with Mac Jones, is a complete crapshoot. Not everybody's coming

1441
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 4: out and being Tom Brady, you know so. I mean

1442
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 4: Tom Brady was the most special quarterback to ever play

1443
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 4: in the National Football League, and he was. He benefited

1444
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: from the Patriots selecting him in the sixth round.

1445
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: They got lucky getting Tom.

1446
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: See, a lot of people are looking at this draft

1447
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,520
Speaker 2: as a one quarterback draft with like, there's Schadeur Sanders,

1448
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: and then I mean Dylan Gabriel's five to eleven.

1449
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 3: He played six years at college football. Same thing with

1450
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 3: cam Ward.

1451
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean, these guys, you know they're playing forever, three

1452
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:54,879
Speaker 2: different schools.

1453
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: Let me give you a team.

1454
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders is the only projected high level talent in

1455
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: this draft.

1456
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 4: Historic team woven into the fabric of the lore of

1457
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 4: the National Football League.

1458
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: You know that stuff is important to Bill Belichick.

1459
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 4: High potential young quarterback who you could imagine if Josh

1460
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 4: McDaniel says, Bill's OC got his hands on him, they

1461
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 4: could probably do some special things.

1462
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears.

1463
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 4: If Matt Eberflus gets canned and you have an opportunity

1464
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 4: to sign Bill Belichick as your head coach, I'm sure

1465
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 4: you would consider it, if not take the job.

1466
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: Now.

1467
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 4: You heard from Tom Brady during a recent Fox broadcast

1468
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 4: from the broadcast Booth talking about how Chicago was on

1469
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 4: the shortlist.

1470
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: Nobody knew it.

1471
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 4: Nobody knew that Chicago was on the shortlist until he

1472
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 4: told everybody in free agency when he decided on Tampa Bay.

1473
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 4: Chicago made the top three. So I could see Chicago

1474
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 4: trying their hardest to lure Bill Belichick in, and I

1475
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 4: think I think it would work. They got a pretty

1476
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 4: stout defense. They got a lot of playmakers around that offense.

1477
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 4: That's kind of a just add water and mixed team

1478
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 4: if you have the right coach.

1479
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: All right, Steelers just kicked the field goal right before

1480
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: the half. This was the slowest drive in the history

1481
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: of the NFL. This thing just dragged on and on.

1482
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: They settled for a field goal seven seconds left and

1483
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 2: a half. Steelers lead the Ravens by a score of

1484
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: nine to seven. By the way, the Steelers have beaten

1485
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: the Ravens seven of their last eight games. They have

1486
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: owned the Ravens all right. On the other side, we

1487
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: continue on as we actually have games heady into and

1488
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: starting the third quarter, including that Jets Colts matchup a

1489
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: repeat of Super Bowl three. Naymith in United Home. No,

1490
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 2: it's not Richard Rogers exactly.

1491
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 3: This is red Zone radio.

1492
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 10: There's the Snapjared backs, Jared looking, looking, looking, throwing middle.

1493
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, count it down five end zone touchdown, had a

1494
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 4: step of the defender, angle to the end zone, took

1495
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 4: it to the house.

1496
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: Pennli's added to their lead.

1497
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 2: Cz is a pc.

1498
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: Gough to dom and Ron.

1499
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: That's ninety seven to one the Ticket Lions radio network.

1500
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: And it only gets worse for Jacksonville. Lions just scored again,

1501
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 2: sixty four yard touchdown pass to start the second half,

1502
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: Jared Goff to Jamison Williams. They lead thirty five to six.

1503
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: Once again, this is red Zone Radio. Steve Hartman and

1504
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: rich Ornberger from the tire Raq dot Com studios. I

1505
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: don't know if Peterson is going to make it to

1506
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 2: the end of the game the way this is going.

1507
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: I mean, as an owner, you see your team down

1508
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: twenty eight to three, kick a field goal right before

1509
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: the half, and then less than two minutes in the

1510
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: second half give up a sixty four yard bomb for

1511
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: a touchdown thirty five to six.

1512
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 4: I look at Doug Peterson as a guy who you know, Look,

1513
01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he had lucked into a champimionship with

1514
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles, because I really do think he did

1515
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 4: a stunning job handling that that season with Carson Wentz.

1516
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: And he goes down. He's on an MVP type season, yea.

1517
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 4: And sometimes he's able to finish things out with a

1518
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 4: backup and win a super Bowl. And in that Super Bowl,

1519
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 4: Nick Foles is able to outdual Tom Brady like I mean.

1520
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 3: How coach Belichick in that game.

1521
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. There's no doubt.

1522
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 4: I mean he looks sometimes you're the bear. Sometimes you

1523
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 4: get caught by the bear.

1524
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: That time.

1525
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 4: Doug Peterson, he was the monstrous killing machine in the cave.

1526
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 4: And Bill Belichick, I don't think the Patriots ever saw coming.

1527
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 4: That was a very good and talented Patriots.

1528
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 2: And then he took over Jacksonville, complete mess after the

1529
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 2: debacle that was Urban Meyer, and within two years they're

1530
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: a playoff team.

1531
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so, I mean they played against the Chiefs.

1532
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 3: He overstays is welcome.

1533
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: Some guys have this. I remember one of the greatest

1534
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: coaches of all time, Larry Brown, you know, basketball coach

1535
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: who I knew from my UCLA DA's if you look

1536
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 2: at his track are very similar. He could take over

1537
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: the worst situation and make it good or great in

1538
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 2: a short amount of time. But then all of a sudden,

1539
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: something doesn't go right and we're seeing it. What happened

1540
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia to Peterson is now happening again in Jacksonville.

1541
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 4: Well, and I'll tag along with this, and I'll say

1542
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 4: that we've seen it before in the NFL, and we

1543
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 4: may be seeing it again.

1544
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1545
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,560
Speaker 4: But Jim Harbaugh over state is welcome in San Francisco.

1546
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, the message wins stale players couldn't

1547
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 4: stand him in forty nine er Land and he got

1548
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 4: shipped out, and so he goes to his alma mater.

1549
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 4: And that was a little bit slower of an assent

1550
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 4: for Jim Harbaugh. Took a couple of years. Now they

1551
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 4: had some success, but they weren't having success the way

1552
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 4: that Michigan Wolverine's fans want them too. He wins the

1553
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 4: National Championship, he skips out of town because the scene

1554
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 4: was getting pretty hot for Jim Harbaugh. You know, all

1555
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 4: of the show caused stuff was being discussed and suspension talks.

1556
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 4: So he leaves, he goes to the Chargers and he's

1557
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 4: doing a magnificent job. But we'll see because, like you

1558
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,799
Speaker 4: mentioned with Doug Peterson, the last time Jim Harbaugh appeared

1559
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 4: in the NFL, he had about what was it, four

1560
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 4: solid seasons well with San Francisco and then had all

1561
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 4: unraveled on him.

1562
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 2: Right, But it was like right after they lost that

1563
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. A year later everything started unravel and then

1564
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: he was gone. Then he got the Michigan job. Colts

1565
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: have retaken the lead sixteen to fourteen over the Jets

1566
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 2: in one of the most anticipated matchups of the day.

1567
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: Not let's see here, Rams are up twenty one to

1568
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: ten over the Patriots and Matthew Stafford is having a

1569
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: day twelve of seventeen two hundred and twenty two yards,

1570
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 2: three touchdowns and no picks, two of those touchdowns to

1571
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: Cooper cups. So the Rams rebounds. Interesting. You have the

1572
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 2: Dolphins do the cross country trip and deliver a victory

1573
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: against the Rams.

1574
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 3: That's so far. Now the Rams doing the cross country

1575
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 3: trip the other.

1576
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: Way and now leading twenty one to ten early in

1577
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 2: the second half against the Patriots.

1578
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, The Rams are quality football team, and it

1579
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 4: comes down to two positions that they have filled with

1580
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 4: really talented people. And if you look across the NFL,

1581
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 4: when you got these two boxes checked, you're in good shape.

1582
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 4: Quarterback and the head coach, Matthew Stafford is like a

1583
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 4: mad scientist back there.

1584
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: You're never gonna fool him.

1585
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 4: He's gonna make the decision eighty five ninety percent of

1586
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 4: the time, and he's got the arm strength to get

1587
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 4: the football there when he's healthy, and he is healthy

1588
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 4: right now. And then you have Sean McVay, who, in

1589
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 4: my estimation, is one of the brightest coaches we've seen

1590
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 4: in the NFL in the past twenty years. And that's

1591
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 4: saying a lot, because there have been some really smart

1592
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 4: coaches who have they're coached and retired in that time

1593
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 4: span or currently coaching right now.

1594
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: Sean McVay is great at this.

1595
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 4: And so the Rams, it doesn't matter what their record

1596
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 4: looks like what point of the season, they are a

1597
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 4: dangerous team and going on the road cross country not easy,

1598
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 4: especially playing in Foxborough even with the three win Patriots team,

1599
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 4: not an easy place to win. Those are avid fans.

1600
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 4: They cheer on their team with fervor the Rams if

1601
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 4: they get this win. Don't overlook this, even though they're

1602
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 4: they're road favorites. This is this would be a big

1603
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 4: win for the Rams to get their record back to

1604
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 4: five hundred.

1605
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 2: You think Arizona's going to keep it up?

1606
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: Boy, that's the question of the of the season.

1607
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: They seem better every week.

1608
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Kyler Murray, the Kyler Murray question is the most

1609
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 4: fascinating question. He's done this to us so many times

1610
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 4: where he's roared out to a start like this where

1611
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 4: sometimes even in past seasons, we've said Kyler Murray MVP,

1612
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, MVP, and then he he just tails off.

1613
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can trust it.

1614
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: Because of that reason, Jameis Winston is actually putting up

1615
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 2: some pretty decent numbers today even though the Browns are

1616
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 2: trailing the Saints fourteen to six. He's fifteen or twenty

1617
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 2: four two hundred and thirty four yards one touchdown in

1618
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: no picks. Wow, And Jerry Judy fort Keats is under

1619
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 2: twenty seven yards in a touchdown. Remember they got him

1620
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: from Demra Emmers. Like, yeah, he could be a possible

1621
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,839
Speaker 2: help to Deshaun Watson.

1622
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 3: YEP, yeap the Browns. I mean, you talk about a predicament.

1623
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: What do you do?

1624
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: Do you just eat that contract that they yes gave

1625
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson? Do you have any trust moving forward with

1626
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston. That's just crazy, I get it.

1627
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Jamis isn't the long term fix, but

1628
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson isn't either, right, So you.

1629
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: Gotta move on.

1630
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 4: You have to move on from if you're making the

1631
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 4: decision with your football brain instead of your business brain.

1632
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 4: You look at the contract and you cut your losses

1633
01:19:59,200 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 4: and you move on.

1634
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: All right.

1635
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 2: We have eight games around the NFL. All of them

1636
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 2: are in the second half. We'll cover all the stats

1637
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: of scores for you. This is Red Zone Radio.

1638
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 3: Back to throw to a looking pressure going to his left.

1639
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 10: It's away from one defender still at this date, throw

1640
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 10: to terraate touchdown.

1641
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: That's Fox Sports nine forty Dolphins Radio Network, Dolphins leading

1642
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: the Raiders seventeen.

1643
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 3: To twelve a minute to go in the third quarter

1644
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 3: in that game.

1645
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,800
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1652
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: Well, you're doing a great job.

1653
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: So just trying to power my way through this show.

1654
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: The Lions are about to score. Is there a mercy rule?

1655
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 2: What's going on here? I mean, seriously, it's the Lions again,

1656
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: already leading the Jaguars thirty five to six second down

1657
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 2: at the Jacksonville seven teen yard line.

1658
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 5: The Jaguars secondary is not stopping anything today. And while

1659
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 5: their run defense was doing well, I don't think it's

1660
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 5: holding up against the run attack either.

1661
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've held.

1662
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 3: Lions are doing whenever they want.

1663
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: Six and a half minutes to go in the third quarter,

1664
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 2: rich and the Lions have four hundred and sixty four

1665
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: total yards.

1666
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 5: If they score here, expect to see Hendon Hooker a

1667
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 5: lot in the fourth quarter.

1668
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, four hundred and sixty four total yards. Jacksonville has

1669
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and five.

1670
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 4: Well, you know, to the Lion's credit, they added Zadarius Smith,

1671
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 4: who makes his debut against Jacksonville after being traded from Cleveland,

1672
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 4: and the whole goal is to do exactly what they're doing,

1673
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:47,839
Speaker 4: to continue rolling offensively and to build up this defense.

1674
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 4: Is aiden Hutchinson watches on from the booth upstairs instead

1675
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 4: of being on the field with his teammates. And so

1676
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 4: far that little experiment's going pretty swimmingly because his defense

1677
01:21:58,800 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 4: has stepped up in a major.

1678
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 1: Way against a team that's struggling.

1679
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 4: Albeit Jacksonville has not been a juggernaut offensively this season,

1680
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 4: but still, this is exactly what you're hoping for.

1681
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: Speaking of a lack of offense, the Tennessee Titans, Wow,

1682
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 2: they have one hundred. They have ninety three yards of

1683
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: offense ten minutes to go in the third quarter, trailing

1684
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: the Vikings sixteen to three. Outside of his mayonnaise commercial,

1685
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 2: Will Levis eight to fifteen, ninety two yards, no touchdowns,

1686
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,759
Speaker 2: no picks, and they have no running game either. Pollard

1687
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: has ten yards rushing. Levis actually has the most yards

1688
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: rushing for this team at seventeen. Where is the Titans

1689
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 2: franchise going? I know they're going to hell this year,

1690
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: but where where do they go from here?

1691
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the only way you can go is up right?

1692
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's is that with Will Levis. Well, I

1693
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: don't think it's with Will Levis.

1694
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 4: I think that they've failed now twice to bring in

1695
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 4: a second round quarterback and make it work for them.

1696
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 4: They tried this with Malik Willis out of Liberty, and

1697
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 4: then Will Levis this most recent draft. And yeah, look,

1698
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 4: I here's the way I look at Will Levis. He

1699
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 4: is boomer bust, but the busts right now outweigh any

1700
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 4: of the booms. And Mason Rudolph is as competent a

1701
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 4: quarterback running this system in Tennessee as Will Levis is.

1702
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 4: Now you bring in Brian Callahan, who's the former offensive

1703
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 4: coordinator worked with Joe Burrow, and the offense in Tennessee

1704
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 4: is a far cry from what it looked like in

1705
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 4: Cincinnati with Callahan manning that position there. And the biggest

1706
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 4: difference is because the Cincinnati Bengals have Joe Burrow. Yeah,

1707
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 4: you think things get a lot harder when you don't

1708
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 4: have a quarterback as capable and as intelligent and as

1709
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 4: predictive as Joe Burrow. Part of the reason why Joe

1710
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 4: Burrow was so incredible was because of his mind. It

1711
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 4: felt like those things that normally trip up younger quarterbacks

1712
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 4: in the league were things that he already had a

1713
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 4: knack for, you know, throwing blitz pickups at him where

1714
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 4: he's got to throw off a you know, throw a

1715
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 4: hot route over the top of a blitzing defense, you know,

1716
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 4: end of game situation. He's been clutched so many times,

1717
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 4: but that stuff was going on early in is in

1718
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 4: his process. And so when you have the benefit of

1719
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 4: working with a player like that, and then you are

1720
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 4: you become the head man with a franchise that doesn't

1721
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 4: have that kind of talent at the quarterback position, it

1722
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 4: gets hard.

1723
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: It gets really hard. This league is really hard without

1724
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback.

1725
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 4: And at two and seven, soon to be two and

1726
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 4: eight on the season here against the Vikings, the Titans,

1727
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 4: they just look lost.

1728
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: Bears retake the lead DeAndre Swift thirty nine yard touchdown run.

1729
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 2: So the Bears are leading the Packers nineteen to fourteen.

1730
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 2: And again we talk about this NFC North where the Lions,

1731
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 2: by the way, they Lion.

1732
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 5: Scored again, I mean this crazy two to six, this one.

1733
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 5: But you mentioned Zadarius Smith. I know he went down

1734
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 5: a little bit earlier, but I think he came back

1735
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 5: in the game. But Lions are now down at alex

1736
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 5: Anzeloni and their linebacker and I believe people were checking

1737
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 5: them him trying to lip read, and it sounds like

1738
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 5: he broke his arm.

1739
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, some bodies.

1740
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 2: But I mean, offensively, this team is hitting on all

1741
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 2: cylinders right now. But if you're the Packers right now

1742
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: and the Vikings, you know, again, this is a division

1743
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 2: that could project have two wildcard teams. Yeah, but if

1744
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: the Bears beat the Packers today, all of a sudden,

1745
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 2: the Packers are like whoa, whoa, whoa. Because when you

1746
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 2: think about the resurgence of the Eagles, the Commanders obviously

1747
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: are a team that have to be reckoned with. And

1748
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you look at that NFC

1749
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: West where Arizona's on the roll, the forty nine ers

1750
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 2: are coming back. All of a sudden, that cushion that

1751
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 2: the NFC North seemed to have in the wildcard chase

1752
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 2: is evaporating.

1753
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and quickly.

1754
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 4: And that's what That's what happens when when you have

1755
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 4: great parody in the NFL, and we have great parody,

1756
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 4: and some of that is because I think the talent

1757
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 4: level has evened out some and I think a lot

1758
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 4: of teams you know, because of the the player movement,

1759
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 4: the fluidity that has now seeped into the NFL where

1760
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 4: quarterbacks aren't shy about being traded, and some of the

1761
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 4: things that we've seen in recent in recent memory have

1762
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 4: aided that. I also think the additional wildcard spot, the

1763
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 4: you know, the additional playoff spot, which creates a situation

1764
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 4: where you have a one seed rest while the rest

1765
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 4: of the playoff bracket plays and you have a wider

1766
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 4: a group of haves compared to the have nots late

1767
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 4: in the season. I think it's really stirred the pot.

1768
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 4: I think we're we're seeing a lot of a lot

1769
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 4: of interest in these you know five hundred or just

1770
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 4: sub five hundred or just over five hundred football teams

1771
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 4: down the stretch of the season. And you look at

1772
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 4: the Packers again, they're they're kind of one of those

1773
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 4: just over five hundred football teams with the six and

1774
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 4: three records. The Bears at four and five, they're one

1775
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 4: of those sub five hundred teams who are staring down

1776
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 4: a win in division. This could be a big deal

1777
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,560
Speaker 4: the storyline with the Bears, though, all eyes on this

1778
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 4: offense making the change moving on from Waldron to Thomas

1779
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 4: Brown as offensive coordinator. Who is you know, Shane Waldron

1780
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 4: was fired on Tuesday. So if this offense looks even

1781
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 4: somewhat composed, that's a win for Thomas Brown today.

1782
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: The Falcons later on are going to be on the

1783
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: road against the Denver Broncos. Falcons with a two game

1784
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 2: lead right now in the NFC South, are they safe?

1785
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: I mean when you look at Tampa, the Saints, Carolina,

1786
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: are the Atlanta Falcons as long, obviously as Kirk Cousins

1787
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: stays healthy, do you feel like they're safe?

1788
01:27:59,320 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 4: No?

1789
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't feel like they're safe.

1790
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 4: Now, that's that's not that's not a condemnation on I'm

1791
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 4: not condemning Kirk Cousins. I I am going to say

1792
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 4: that Kirk Cousins not throwing a passing touchdown last last outing.

1793
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 4: You know, he's he's gotta have he's got to light

1794
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 4: up the scoreboard a little bit here today.

1795
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the box score that game's coming up.

1796
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: Yes that's a little bit.

1797
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a one o'clock game.

1798
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 4: But but when we're when when they take the field,

1799
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 4: I'm I'm going to be concerned to see how he

1800
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 4: responds after taking an indivision loss, It'll be interesting to

1801
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 4: see what happens.

1802
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: It will be.

1803
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 4: I mean, the Falcons, the arrow is either pointing up

1804
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 4: or the arrows pointing down.

1805
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: It's it's you.

1806
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 4: There's no living in between when you're a middle of

1807
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 4: the road team and right now the Falcons are six

1808
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 4: and four and.

1809
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 2: The Broncos are also middle team coming out that devastating

1810
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: loss to the Chiefs.

1811
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: Last second field goal block blocked.

1812
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, again, does the guy that missed

1813
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 2: that block, Will Lutts, the guy that completely whiffed on

1814
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: the block, and.

1815
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: You're talking about the offensive liness.

1816
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 3: Offensive lineman, does he sell the job? How does that

1817
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 3: play out?

1818
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 2: You know, when you you have a chance to knock

1819
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: the Chiefs out of the undefeated ranks and you just

1820
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: whiff on a.

1821
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: Block, you can't do it.

1822
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 4: Look, you know, most of the time those positions are

1823
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 4: either manned by your starting offensive linemen who are shifted

1824
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 4: over into different positions. You know, whether they're used to

1825
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 4: playing on the left side, they play on the right

1826
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 4: because you know, that's the side that you put your

1827
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 4: hand in the dirt, or or or it's a reserve

1828
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 4: offensive lineman or tight end coming into the game, and

1829
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 4: that is their sole responsibility. It doesn't matter who you are,

1830
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter how long you've been doing it for.

1831
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 4: It can't happen when a singular play. Now again, this

1832
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 4: is supposing Will Watts hits that field goal, but not

1833
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 4: even having a chance to see if it'll go through.

1834
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 4: You can't have it happen. So I'd imagine there would

1835
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 4: be a change made on special teams.

1836
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 2: You're not gonna believe this, Yeah, which is all right?

1837
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 2: Who was I trying to lay out Will Levis?

1838
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1839
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just threw a ninety eight yard touchdown pass.

1840
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Well, this is the boomer bust potential I was talking.

1841
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 1: I did it again. You did it again.

1842
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 2: Will Levis just threw a ninety eight yard touchdown pass

1843
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:31,799
Speaker 2: to Westbrook a heeny?

1844
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 8: What is that?

1845
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 2: Nick?

1846
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 3: What's his last name?

1847
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: Please please pronounce it. It's my favorite thing.

1848
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:40,839
Speaker 3: Westbrook aikini?

1849
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: That's perfect, That's yeah, you got it.

1850
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 3: Believe it's a key, it's a kee.

1851
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe bikini.

1852
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 1: I believe Tahini is a delicious uh Middle Eastern.

1853
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 2: I could have said I could have said Westbrook a kine,

1854
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure he's a running back. For the

1855
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 2: dol it's a k.

1856
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Oh.

1857
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 2: It's it's it's so funny because you know it with

1858
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: with eight chan. Remember it was eight chane. We all thought, well,

1859
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 2: that looks like a chane.

1860
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 3: Is like no, no, no, it's eight chan.

1861
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, it's like what eight chan? Oh? I

1862
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: love you.

1863
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 3: When I was a kid man, I couldn't pronounce everybody's

1864
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 3: name back in the day.

1865
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 2: All right, we continue on here. I get a sense

1866
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna get some crazy finishes today. Just a guess

1867
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 2: because it usually happens coming up. More red zone radio.

1868
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 4: Firing deep down field for wester rook Atene got it

1869
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 4: forty fifty forty thirty twenty ten five zone.

1870
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 13: Touchdown tight the longest touchdown past of the year in

1871
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 13: the National Football League.

1872
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,799
Speaker 3: Jeff Witch tighty eight years.

1873
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 2: That's WGFX one oh four point five Titans Radio Network.

1874
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 2: Titans are back in it. Oh wait a second touchdown

1875
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 2: pass Sam Darnold to Akers. Yeah, three yard touchdowns. So

1876
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 2: the Vikings answer back with a score of their own.

1877
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Vikings penning the extra point, now lead the Titans by

1878
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: a score of twenty three to ten. Three minutes to

1879
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 2: go in the third quarter. There once again, this is

1880
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio. Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger with you.

1881
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: We are live from the tiraq dot Com studios. Quick

1882
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 2: rundown of the score. Bird Bears lead the Packers nineteen fourteen,

1883
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,879
Speaker 2: eleven minutes to go on the fourth quarter. There, Lions

1884
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 2: forty two to six over the Jaguars. Apparently they will

1885
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 2: play the fourth quarter, which is starting right now. We

1886
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 2: mentioned the Vikings with the twenty three to ten lead

1887
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 2: over the Titans. That game ten and a half minutes

1888
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 2: to go right now, excuse me, three minutes to go

1889
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 2: in the third quarter, ten and a half minutes to

1890
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 2: go on the fourth quarter. Dolphins lead the Raiders twenty

1891
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 2: four to ten, rams over the Patriots twenty eight to thirteen,

1892
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 2: two minutes to go on the third There we're all

1893
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: tied up, Browns and Saints fourteen each. By the way,

1894
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston has three hundred and twelve yards passing in

1895
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 2: that game, fourteen alls started the fourth quarter. Into the

1896
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Now Jet's trying to figure out a way

1897
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 2: of winning a game, and Aaron Rodgers has just thrown

1898
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 2: a touchdown pass, so they have up their leading out

1899
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 2: to twenty three to sixteen over the Colts and the

1900
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 2: Steelers and the Ravens. I mean, this is a classic

1901
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 2: AFC grinded out North game. Steelers lead the Ravens by

1902
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 2: a score of twelve ten. Good news for Ravens fans.

1903
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 2: After missing two field goals early in the game, Justin

1904
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 2: Tucker kicked a fifty four yard field goal.

1905
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, here's the crazy thing about the Ravens.

1906
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 4: If they fix the Justin Tucker problem, they fix a

1907
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 4: lot of problems. Yeah, because if they get some of

1908
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 4: the points back that he has cost them in some

1909
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:47,719
Speaker 4: of these games.

1910
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you could make an argument the record looks different.

1911
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 4: So hopefully he can get things fixed before their playoff run,

1912
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 4: which we assume, unless something goes horribly wrong, they're going

1913
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 4: to be on later this season, because we know as

1914
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 4: we get into Thanksgiving time, the Christmas Holidays, playoff time,

1915
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 4: field goals, extra points, you can't miss them.

1916
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: No margins are too slim.

1917
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 2: So you look at this game again, the Steelers have

1918
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 2: had the Ravens number, and you just look at these

1919
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 2: two teams and you're saying the Ravens are a better team. Yep,

1920
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 2: which is why the Ravens are favored to win this game,

1921
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 2: and yet here are the Steelers leading twelve to ten.

1922
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 2: They're actually moving right now. They are in Ravens territory

1923
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 2: inside the forty yard line and they're just grinding it out.

1924
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: This is what this you know.

1925
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 2: Steeler team always does. Lamar Jackson just ten of twenty

1926
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:42,480
Speaker 2: four passing, no touchdown passes in this game, no rushing touchdowns.

1927
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 2: He hasn't been sacked, Rich, but I've been watching this game.

1928
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 2: He has been under siege. He's been, you know, figuring

1929
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 2: out way to get rid of the ball and not

1930
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 2: taking a sack. But you know, ten to twenty four passing.

1931
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: The Steelers win this game, Rich, all of a sudden,

1932
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 2: have a game and a half lead in that division.

1933
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do.

1934
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 4: And that is Mike Tomlin to a t have a

1935
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 4: I mean over the past half decade. Now, it's just

1936
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 4: have a quarterback who's competent enough not to screw it

1937
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 4: up for you. And that's exactly what Russell Wilson's doing.

1938
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 4: And he's riding off of the efforts of this defense.

1939
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 4: Seventeen of twenty five twenty one.

1940
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: Oh what do he got?

1941
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 2: Big pass from Russell Wilson. He just dropped a dime

1942
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 2: right now. I didn't see the receiver on that one, guys,

1943
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 2: but Russell Wilson just dropped a dime. It was George Pickens.

1944
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 2: So George Pickens, uh, just an absolutely perfect pass.

1945
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 4: Was that about a thirty eight yard connection there? Thirty seven?

1946
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 4: Thirty seven yard connection?

1947
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, George Pickens, I said it to start the game.

1948
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 4: He would be the X factor in this matchup because

1949
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson needs to get the ball out of his

1950
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 4: hands quickly. George Pickens a sharp route runner. If they

1951
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 4: need to score, you go to number fourteen, George Pickens.

1952
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 2: And you mentioned earlier, Rich, excuse me that the Ravens

1953
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,879
Speaker 2: defense has been susceptible to these deep passes.

1954
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

1955
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 4: And that, by the way, it's the second time now

1956
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 4: that they've given up, or really, I guess you would

1957
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 4: say the second time. They got a twenty yard connection

1958
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 4: to Najie Harris earlier in the game. He's only caught

1959
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 4: three passes, but he's been good out of the backfield

1960
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 4: for the Steelers.

1961
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: Today.

1962
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 4: You got a thirty seven you're almost a forty yard

1963
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 4: bomb to Pickens there.

1964
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: He's been targeted ten times in this game.

1965
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 4: He's now responsible for half the yardage that Russell Wilson

1966
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 4: has thrown for in this game. So no question he

1967
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 4: is he I mean, he's the most targeted player on

1968
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 4: the field. Even the Ravens don't have anybody near that

1969
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 4: amount of volume.

1970
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 2: Well, at what point are we taking the Steelers Steelers seriously?

1971
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 2: I mean, with Russell Wilson in a quarterback and obviously

1972
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 2: he's not putting up you know, huge numbers by any

1973
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 2: stretch of the imagine, but he's certainly playing well enough

1974
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,640
Speaker 2: for them to continue to win. They haven't won a

1975
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 2: playoff game in a long time. That's been the knock

1976
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 2: on Tomlin. Is that, Yeah, you continue to have winning seasons. Yeah,

1977
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 2: you get teams in the playoffs. We haven't won a

1978
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:17,959
Speaker 2: playoff game in a long time. Could the Steelers change.

1979
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: That this year? Well, all they do is beat playoff teams.

1980
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at going back to the

1981
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 4: early season, they beat the Falcons on the road in Atlanta.

1982
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 4: They made the Falcons look foolish in that game. Right,

1983
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 4: We're so excited to see Kirk Cousins. He was under

1984
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 4: siege the entire game. They go to Denver the very

1985
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 4: next game, they beat the Broncos. The Broncos are trending

1986
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 4: in the direction of being a playoff game. They face

1987
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 4: the Chargers, they beat them. Chargers are presumptive playoff team.

1988
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 4: Now the Cowboys loss hurts, the Colts loss hurts. But

1989
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 4: you go to the raven or excuse me not the Ravens.

1990
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:59,480
Speaker 4: The Raiders, the Jets, the Giants, the Commander's game in consecutive.

1991
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 1: Fashion, racking off four in a row.

1992
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 4: I mean, just in that short spat I mentioned a

1993
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 4: playoff game and maybe one other if the Jets can

1994
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 4: pull it together at all, which is highway unlikely. But yeah,

1995
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 4: and what they're doing to the Ravens, I guess to

1996
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 4: answer your question, Steve, yeah, the Steelers should be taken

1997
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 4: seriously because they've already beaten playoff teams this season, So

1998
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:22,560
Speaker 4: how could you not?

1999
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: All right, Jared Goff just threw another touchdown past Monroe

2000
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 2: Saint Brown.

2001
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 3: Okay, it's efficient.

2002
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 2: Now, Jared Goff has a perfect passer rating today twenty

2003
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 2: four of twenty nine, four hundred and twelve yards, four touchdowns,

2004
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 2: no picks. That is a perfect one fifty eight point

2005
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 2: three passer rating.

2006
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 5: One hell of a bounce back after five interceptions, on

2007
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 5: Sunday night.

2008
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 3: Okay, why is he still in the game.

2009
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 1: It's a good question.

2010
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I'm just going to assume they just

2011
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 5: wanted to let him finish out that drive. But also

2012
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 5: the reality the NFL is there's just not enough guys

2013
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 5: to take starters out of a game.

2014
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's forty nine to six right now, it's thirteen

2015
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 2: minutes to go. You don't have a backup quarterback.

2016
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 5: No, they'll put the backup quarterback in, But then there's

2017
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 5: other guys in the field. Like, it's not like the

2018
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 5: offensive line is going to get a lot of time

2019
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 5: off here.

2020
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 12: What if they did it to piss off Xavier McKinney

2021
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 12: with the Packers.

2022
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 3: Maybe this, all I know is just seems weird that.

2023
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it was great for golf.

2024
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: Who you know, again, last week was amazing and you

2025
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 2: have throw five interceptions and win the game is just

2026
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 2: beyond belief what they did last week. But you know,

2027
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 2: he has a perfect passer rating for today. I'm sure

2028
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 2: he threw his last pass of the day. But there's

2029
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 2: got to be something up with this. Well, right, I mean,

2030
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 2: you're up, You're up forty two to six at the

2031
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 2: start of the fourth quarter and he's throwing a touchdown pass.

2032
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 12: Maybe maybe Dan Campbell saw the Ravens score on the

2033
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,639
Speaker 12: board and he's like, Okay, well, we can erase last

2034
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 12: week's game from voters' minds, and now Jared Goff's the

2035
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 12: MVP front runner.

2036
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, yeah, Well listen.

2037
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 2: I okay, where are you now with Golf and the

2038
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 2: MVP voting after another incredible day to day.

2039
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 4: I said it last week. I still have believe that

2040
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 4: Golf is in the running for MVP. Can't judge a

2041
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 4: guy by one game in one game alone, a game

2042
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 4: that he won by the way, yeah, fourth quarter, But yeah,

2043
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 4: I mean, he still found a way to get it

2044
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 4: done in the end, and I'm not going to give

2045
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 4: him an overwhelming amount of credit the Detroit Lions that or,

2046
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 4: I should say, Jared Goff specifically did everything he could

2047
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 4: to give that game away. They still, and I do mean,

2048
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 4: they found a way to win because I was a

2049
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 4: team effort. Jared Goff helped, but I mean he's certainly

2050
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 4: hurt more than he did help in that game. Jared

2051
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 4: Goff is still an MVP contender because he's playing for

2052
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 4: the best team in the NFL and he is a

2053
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 4: huge reason why they've had the majority of their success.

2054
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2055
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 4: I mean, look, some of that lies on the talent

2056
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:50,759
Speaker 4: he has around him, Like always, how many talented teams

2057
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 4: did Tom Brady play on? Yeah, I mean how many

2058
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,560
Speaker 4: talented teams did Aaron Rodgers play on?

2059
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: Plenty? Yeah, you have to have talent around you in

2060
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 1: order to have success in this lead, and there's no

2061
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 1: question he does.

2062
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 4: But he's also playing at this completion rate that's almost

2063
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 4: otherworldly in the majority, if not all, outside of that

2064
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,440
Speaker 4: Ravens game, of the games he's played.

2065
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 1: This year's, he's on an absolute tear.

2066
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 2: By the way, do you hear about that guy that

2067
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 2: pulled off one of the greatest spoof stat spoofs of

2068
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 2: all time? So I remember in the first half GoF

2069
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 2: had four interceptions, right, yeah, and this guy posted that

2070
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 2: this is the seventh time the GoF has had four

2071
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 2: interceptions in a game that was at halftime, and his

2072
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 2: record in the previous six games is six and zero.

2073
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 1: And he got it to go viral.

2074
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:47,879
Speaker 2: Oh he won more than Viral. McAfee interviewed Aaron Rodgers

2075
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 2: and threw the stat out and Rogers goes, is that

2076
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 2: a real stat? He goes Yep, it's a real stat.

2077
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 2: This guy later admitted he was just sitting there in

2078
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 2: his underwear at halftime watching this Lions game and he

2079
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,679
Speaker 2: just made up a stat and it went completely viral.

2080
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 2: The reality is is that GOB's only had two games

2081
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 2: ever before that game with four or more interceptions.

2082
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 1: And his record was one and one.

2083
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was a good looking stat, but some

2084
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 2: some people absolutely bought it.

2085
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: And so let me let me run down something for

2086
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: you really quick about the Lions.

2087
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 2: I feel like I want to do something like that.

2088
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean, like that's phenomenal.

2089
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,679
Speaker 1: This is a real stat for you. Check this out.

2090
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:33,759
Speaker 4: Possession one for the Lions, touchdown possession, two touchdown, three touchdown,

2091
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 4: four touchdown, five touchdown, six touchdown, win.

2092
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 2: Touch They have scored on every possession, They've scored a touchdown.

2093
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 4: What every single possession they're getting to six over the

2094
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars.

2095
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 2: With Does anyone believe that Doug Peterson is going to

2096
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 2: be the coach of the Jaguars next week?

2097
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 5: I think we should more be taking bets on what

2098
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 5: day of the week he'll be fired. Well, if he's

2099
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 5: to be fired, it's gonna be Monday.

2100
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:02,839
Speaker 3: But sometimes they wait for Tuesday.

2101
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 12: Brandon over in the edit bay, he said that Doug

2102
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 12: Peterson would not get fired today, so we can bring

2103
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 12: him on and ask him to explain himself the one voice.

2104
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, alright, you see it's getting warmed, all.

2105
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 2: Right, it's it's getting really warm. Let's find out what

2106
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,640
Speaker 2: is trending right now. And monci I.

2107
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 8: Got excited for a second. Drake May threw another touchdown pass.

2108
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 8: Did he really yes, yes, he really really is And

2109
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 8: so that's what you saw my little celebration for. But

2110
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 8: then the Rams blocked the extra point, so that happened.

2111
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 8: Rams are still beating the Patriots twenty eight to nineteen.

2112
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 8: Early in the fourth quarter. Taysom Hill, with another rushing touchdown,

2113
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 8: has given the Saints the lead once again against the

2114
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 8: Browns twenty one fourteen early in the fourth. The Colts

2115
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:53,799
Speaker 8: have just scored as well, Anthony Richardson connecting with Josh Downs,

2116
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 8: So the Colts are now losing to the Jets bench

2117
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:57,959
Speaker 8: just too, twenty four to twenty.

2118
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 7: Two early in the fourth.

2119
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 8: Ravens have the ball, but Steelers are still on top

2120
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 8: fifteen to ten.

2121
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 7: They're gonna start the fourth quarter soon.

2122
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 8: The Raiders are still losing to the Dolphins twenty four

2123
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 8: to twelve with less than five minutes to go in

2124
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,719
Speaker 8: the game, but they are knocking on the door to score.

2125
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 8: The Vikings slowed down a little bit, but they're still

2126
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 8: beating the Titans twenty three to ten early in the

2127
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 8: fourth quarter. Even though we talked about Will Levis' touchdown pass,

2128
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 8: he was literally on one end of the end zone

2129
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 8: and got that touchdown.

2130
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 7: So good for him.

2131
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 8: All Lions against the Jags. Also have Jared Goff on

2132
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 8: one of my leagues. If you're wondering how many points

2133
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 8: he's given me in my fantasy league, on the one

2134
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 8: that I'm not playing with Drake may let's just check

2135
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 8: because it's fun. He's given me forty two and a

2136
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 8: half points. Not bad, Jared Goff, thank you so much.

2137
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 8: Four hundred and twelve yards and four touchdowns. Lions just

2138
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 8: crushing the Jags forty nine to six. Ten minutes left

2139
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 8: still in this one. The Bears are beating the Packers.

2140
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 8: The latest score was DeAndre Swift with a thirty nine

2141
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,919
Speaker 8: yard rushing touchdown. They went for a two point conversion

2142
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 8: weren't successful, but Chicago up on Green Bay nineteen fourteen

2143
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 8: with about five minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

2144
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 8: The Packers also lost in the third quarter. They lost

2145
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 8: Jyer Alexander to a knee injury. Now still to come

2146
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,879
Speaker 8: Seahawks forty nine ers. Offensive tackle Trent Williams and defensive

2147
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 8: end Nick Bosa are both active for San Francisco and

2148
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 8: no George Kittle.

2149
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 7: As expected from yesterday, it looks like.

2150
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 8: Gardner Minshew with a touchdown pass now the Raiders cutting

2151
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 8: their deficit against the Dolphins. Dolphins still on top twenty

2152
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:28,640
Speaker 8: four eighteen, less than five minutes to go.

2153
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, hi mon, see I'm watching night

2154
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 2: now this Ravens Steelers game. Steelers lead fifteen to ten.

2155
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 2: We are now starting the fourth quarter, and it's so

2156
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 2: many interesting to see if the Ravens can get any

2157
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:46,440
Speaker 2: kind of offense going here. Rich they are really struggling

2158
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 2: to move the ball. You know, you're only down five,

2159
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, can you run the ball?

2160
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Derek Henry actually is averaging five yards of

2161
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 2: carry in this game. Yeah, the passing game is going nowhere,

2162
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 2: but you still have the big horse. I mean, you're

2163
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 2: down five, you got the ball at your own thirteen

2164
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 2: yard line to start the fourth quarter. What is your

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01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 2: offensive strategy to get a drive together get in the

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01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 2: end zone?

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01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 4: You I mean, look, you're not You're not in a

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01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 4: situation where you have to abandon your original game script,

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01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 4: which I have to imagine involved a lot in the

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01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 4: running game. That's what the Ravens do, That's who they are,

2171
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 4: that's how they're built. So you do not abandon the

2172
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 4: running game. You have to find a way to get

2173
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 4: it to work. Whether it means, you know, you start

2174
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 4: using Lamar Jackson in planned QB runs more often. You know,

2175
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 4: it may be a situation where you know, you're you're

2176
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,600
Speaker 4: you're trying to loosen the defense from the line of

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01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 4: scrimmage with an early downs play action pass just so

2178
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 4: you could get maybe sneaking a second and medium run

2179
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,759
Speaker 4: that can go off, you know, get Derrick Henry loose

2180
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 4: on an explosive play, or or you know, you start

2181
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 4: you start firing up the exotics, you start putting a

2182
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 4: couple of things to keep the Steelers guessing.

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01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 3: Well, let me update you.

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01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 2: That drive netted negative three yards on three plays. Goodness,

2185
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 2: and they just punted out of their end zones. So

2186
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,600
Speaker 2: the Steelers are going to get the ball back with

2187
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 2: the lead fifteen to ten, and just some teams have

2188
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 2: the other team's number.

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01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 3: We mentioned the Steelers had beating the Ravens seven to.

2190
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 2: The last eight meetings, and they have the ball and

2191
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 2: the lead with this one fourteen minutes to go in

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01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter.

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01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 3: In that game, Jets and the Colts twenty four to

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01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 3: twenty two.

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01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: One of the interesting notes here is Anthony Richardson, who

2196
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 2: I believe was completing forty four percent of his passes

2197
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 2: rich which seems incredible that a quarterback in the NFL

2198
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 2: could do that in twenty twenty four. But he's played

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01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 2: well today much well, let's put this way, by his standards,

2200
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 2: he's played well. Seventeen to twenty seven, two hundred and

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01:47:56,120 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 2: twelve yards, one touchdown, no picks. In this game, the

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01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 2: Jets run defense has been very effective. Jonathan Taylor only

2203
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 2: has fifty five yards and twenty three carries. But you know, again,

2204
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 2: this is a young quarterback you invested in. You can't

2205
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 2: give up on him, and you just got to figure

2206
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 2: out a way to get this kid right. And maybe

2207
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 2: today is that first step. You know, win or lose

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01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 2: this game at least is playing pretty well.

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01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it's obviously the storyline of the game having

2210
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 4: Richardson returning to the lineup for the Colts. The five

2211
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 4: full games Richardson's played in this season, the Colts have

2212
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 4: only averaged five or should say, they have averaged five

2213
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 4: point two yards per game and rushed for over one

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01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 4: hundred and.

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01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: Forty two yards.

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01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 4: So that is an aspect of the Colts offense that

2217
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 4: they want to get back to in a big way

2218
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 4: with Anthony Richardson, because, let's face it, I mean, when

2219
01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 4: you're able we're just talking about the Ravens doing this,

2220
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 4: and you're able to establish the line of scrimmage and

2221
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 4: run the football, you're gonna have more success. And they've

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01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 4: attempted thirty two carries on the game. Now, not to

2223
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 4: those type of yardage you know age both averages or

2224
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 4: total yardages that we were discussing. You know, there's certainly

2225
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 4: nowhere near one hundred and forty two yards. They're total

2226
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 4: rushing right now is at eighty one and Jonathan Taylor

2227
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 4: has been hemmed in to a paltry fifty five yards

2228
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 4: on twenty two carries. But you can tell what the

2229
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 4: goal is with Richardson in the football game. We're going

2230
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,639
Speaker 4: to attack you with the run game. We're gonna throw

2231
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 4: it when we need to, and that's how they've had success.

2232
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 4: And he's been able to air it out for a touchdown,

2233
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 4: he's been able to run it in for one. We

2234
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 4: saw in the scramble Anthony Richardson for what he isn't,

2235
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 4: and there are plenty of things he's not at this

2236
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 4: point his second year in the NFL. What he is

2237
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 4: is a dynamic, mobile, dual threat quarterback and it gives

2238
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 4: a lot for a defense to worry about. And even

2239
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 4: though they're trailing in this game, it's by a slim margin.

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Speaker 4: They're only trailing the Jets by two in New York.

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01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 4: This is anybody's football game.

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01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 3: All right.

2243
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 2: The game that is furthest along right now is this

2244
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 2: Green Bay Bears game. We got four minutes to go

2245
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. Bears Packers just took over trailing

2246
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 2: nineteen to fourteen at their own twenty two yard line.

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01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 2: Really the story of this game because you look at

2248
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Love twelve of sixteen for two hundred and one yards.

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01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 3: That's impressive.

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01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs solid seventy six yards on the ground in

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01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 2: a score the numbers are pretty even except for one

2252
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 2: stat time of possession Bears thirty three minutes the Packers

2253
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 2: just twenty two minutes. And that's why the Packers have

2254
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 2: been hindered in getting their offense going in this game.

2255
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams pretty good game today, twenty at twenty eight

2256
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 2: and eighty two yards, no touchdowns, no picks in this one.

2257
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 2: But he also has seventy yards rushing in this game,

2258
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 2: which is part of the story. But this is this

2259
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 2: is a huge for the Packers. As I mentioned, and

2260
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: we were talking about this wild card chase in the

2261
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 2: NFC earlier, Packers seemed pretty safe. But you know, with

2262
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: the Vikings probably winning today against the Titans, all of

2263
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 2: a sudden, you got the forty nine ers back in

2264
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 2: the mix. Packers really can't afford to lose this game.

2265
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 4: Packers, they've turned the football over love through the interception.

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01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: Packers.

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01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 4: They've been terrible on third down, one of five, zero

2268
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 4: for one on fourth down. I mean, you look at

2269
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,800
Speaker 4: the other side. Bears have been clean in the turnovers

2270
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,640
Speaker 4: and they are wildly efficient in the third down and

2271
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 4: fourth down efficiency nine to fifteen third down, two of

2272
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 4: two for their fourth down tries the run games on fire.

2273
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 4: They've got ten more rushing attempts than the Green Bay Packers.

2274
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 4: So they're getting Caleb Williams into third and manageable situations

2275
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 4: and they're having success on those downs. Well, of course

2276
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 4: they are, because when you're using like we're just talking

2277
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,799
Speaker 4: about Anthony Richardson, when you're using a dual threat quarterback

2278
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 4: the way he's supposed to be used, you're leaning into

2279
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 4: his capabilities as a rusher, You're gonna have more success.

2280
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 4: So I think that is the biggest key here for

2281
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator switch that they've made in Chicago. Highlight

2282
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 4: the things he does well, hide his weaknesses, you're gonna

2283
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 4: have more success. They're having more success today against Green Bay.

2284
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 3: Hold on turn around in Jacksonville. They just held the

2285
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 3: Lions to.

2286
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 2: A field goal.

2287
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

2288
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 2: So after's seven straight drives and in a touchdown, hen

2289
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 2: and Hookers in they I don't care who's in playing

2290
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 2: the jackson What is the hen and Hooker's one?

2291
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, the Lions with the MVP on the bench, How

2292
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 12: are they are.

2293
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:46,759
Speaker 2: You getting defensive? As a Lions guy.

2294
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 8: I just saying it seemed like you wanted to talk

2295
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,799
Speaker 8: smack and I was just saying, well the Sat Jared.

2296
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 3: Golf, they pulled the starters. Well, I'm just saying I

2297
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 3: was trying to give Rendell Bill run the ball here.

2298
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 1: You know, you know what they.

2299
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 2: Field goal.

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01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 4: What's embarrassing is Detroit's only scored fifty two against this Yeah,

2301
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:05,919
Speaker 4: that is embarrassing.

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01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean, this should be this score should be.

2303
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 3: A way, Tom Brady Lazer Eyes were only up by forty.

2304
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 1: They should have gone for only two point converts.

2305
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Steelers guys are driving there down the five

2306
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 2: yard line first and goal, trying to I don't know,

2307
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 2: put the Ravens away if you want.

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01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 12: To talk embarrassing. I don't know if you guys saw

2309
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 12: the sequence that just happened in Chicago. But Bears had

2310
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 12: fourth and three elected to punt, and then on one

2311
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 12: play Christian Watson take it down to the twenty yard

2312
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:38,600
Speaker 12: line of the Bears, and then Matti Refluse decided to

2313
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 12: challenge the catch for no real reason. It was very

2314
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 12: clearly a catch. So two bad decisions in the span

2315
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 12: of two minutes by Matti Refluse there.

2316
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 2: So you're not giving up on the idea Iberflus being

2317
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 2: the next coach to be fired. Well, well they just

2318
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 2: fired their offense.

2319
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.

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01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 12: Everybody knows the Bears don't do that midseason, but they

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01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 12: have every reason to.

2322
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 2: All right, three minutes to go. Right now, Jordan Love

2323
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 2: is scrambling. He's gonna take off and run and he

2324
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 2: is all the way down to the one yard line.

2325
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 2: So the Packers are now in a position to get

2326
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 2: back into the lead in this game on the road

2327
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 2: against the Bears. Some exciting finishes are coming up. We'll

2328
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 2: have it all covered. This is Red Zone Radio.

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01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 10: Off up under center turn takes to give to Jami

2330
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 10: or throws end zone.

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01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:26,600
Speaker 2: Con n a Ross Saint Brown touchdown. Detroit Lions go

2332
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 2: off with the chart.

2333
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 1: Fourteen is having a day, sixteen is having a day.

2334
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: This whole team is having a day. Ninety seven to one.

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01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 1: That take it.

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01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 2: Lions Radio Network games still going on. Lions lead the

2337
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 2: Jaguars fifty two to.

2338
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 1: Six.

2339
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio Steve Hartman and Rich Ormberger with you.

2340
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 2: We are live from the tai Iraq dot com studios.

2341
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 2: All right, here's where we are with a couple of

2342
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 2: games that are a little bit closer than that. Lion's

2343
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 2: Jags game Packers lead the now twenty to nineteen.

2344
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 3: They went for a two point conversion, did not get it.

2345
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 2: So the Bears have the ball right now at their

2346
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 2: own twenty yard line with a third and twenty and

2347
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 2: we've hit the two minute warning.

2348
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 3: So the Bears need to come up with a big

2349
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 3: play real quick or they're not going to.

2350
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 1: Win this game.

2351
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 2: Rams and the Patriots Rich. Rams are leading twenty eight

2352
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 2: to twenty two, three and a half minutes to go.

2353
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 2: Matthew Staffords had a huge day sixteen of twenty three,

2354
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: eighty five yards and four touchdown passes in this game.

2355
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 2: But the Rams trying to put the Patriots away. They

2356
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 2: have a third and three at the New England forty

2357
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 2: five yard line. And then you got this Ravens Steelers

2358
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 2: game that the Ravens are still trying to figure this out.

2359
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 2: They had a big play that was called back because

2360
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 2: of a penalty. But the big story in this game

2361
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 2: was Russell Wilson.

2362
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 1: YEP.

2363
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 2: So the we're mentioning right before the break that the

2364
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 2: Steelers were fifteen to ten, they had a first and

2365
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 2: goal of the five yard line, and you know, everything's

2366
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 2: going great for Russell Wilson and he just threw one

2367
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 2: of the ugliest interceptions in the end zone that you

2368
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 2: will ever see.

2369
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 4: Turnovers have been a killer for the Ravens in this game.

2370
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 4: They fumbled twice and now all of a sudden, the

2371
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 4: Steelers are helping him out here. The Ravens have also

2372
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 4: been really undisciplined. Ten penalties today for seventy yards. Look,

2373
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 4: the Steelers haven't played good football.

2374
01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:30,879
Speaker 1: Make no mistake.

2375
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 4: When we're talking about the Steelers winning this football game,

2376
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 4: it has nothing to do with Russell Wilson. He's been bad.

2377
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 4: This has not been a good game for Russell Wilson.

2378
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 4: He's been That interception was uh. He's been serviceable at best.

2379
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 4: But when you when you start looking down the team

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Speaker 4: stats in this one, I mean the Steelers are two

2381
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 4: of thirteen on third down. Yeah, they're over on fourth down.

2382
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 4: But the one thing they've done a nice job of

2383
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 4: is rushing the football.

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01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 2: Rich let me jump in right now. So the Jets

2385
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 2: lead the Colts twenty seven to twenty two. But the

2386
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 2: Colts now have the ball at the Jets ten yard line.

2387
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson throws a little pass down to the six.

2388
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:19,240
Speaker 2: So the Colts have put themselves in a position to

2389
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 2: win this game on the road against the Jets.

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01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Jets settle for a field goal on

2391
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 4: that last drive, answering the Colts touchdown, and so back

2392
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 4: and forth this game has went as the Colts have

2393
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 4: tried to lurch back into it, and they have a

2394
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 4: second or excuse me, yeah, second and goal opportunity, opportunity

2395
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 4: at the Jets six yard line.

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01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 1: Look, here's the thing.

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01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson is a really difficult red zone threat to

2398
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 4: deal with. If you look at Richardson, I mean, you

2399
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 4: have so many options. I mean, is he the best

2400
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 4: thrower of the football. No, But you have to defend

2401
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 4: all eleven players, or i should all the skilled position

2402
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 4: players on the field, including Richardson, because he'll dial up

2403
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 4: his own number even if it's a passing play.

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01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 2: All right, So here's where the Jets are. They have

2405
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 2: no timeouts left. So now you're the Colts. You have

2406
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 2: a second and goal at the six. Obviously you need

2407
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 2: a touchdown here, yep, But you also want to run

2408
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 2: clock a little bit here. So the Jets has used

2409
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 2: their last time out. But you can't play around too

2410
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 2: much because it's second and goal. Richardson is going to

2411
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 2: do a straight handoff. Think the Taylor that's going to

2412
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 2: get down to the four yard line. The clock is

2413
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 2: now going to run.

2414
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question here, let's get crazy.

2415
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 4: So Indianapolis Colts score a touchdown, say yes, do you

2416
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 4: go for two and you make it a field goal

2417
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 4: ties it game for the Jets with a minute and

2418
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:51,240
Speaker 4: change left? Or do you kick the field goal and

2419
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 4: make it so you give the Aaron Rodgers the ball

2420
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:56,320
Speaker 4: back with an opportunity to kick a field goal and

2421
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 4: win the football game?

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01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 2: If the Colts score a touchdown, yeah, one hundred percent,

2423
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 2: you're going for a two point conversion. Yeah, I'm with you,

2424
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.

2425
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 1: You got yeah to put this game out of reach

2426
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

2427
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, Now Richardson is going to keep the ball

2428
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 2: and go into the end zone for a touchdown. So

2429
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 2: the Colts have now taken the lead forty six seconds left,

2430
01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 2: and that's where a guy like Anthony Richardson is simply unstoppable.

2431
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 2: That was just a pure quarterback. Keep go around the

2432
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 2: left end and he just ran over a couple of people.

2433
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 2: So touchdown Colts. So most likely they will go for

2434
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:36,320
Speaker 2: a two point conversion and put Aaron Rodgers in a

2435
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 2: desperate situation to figure out a late game miracle. Too well,

2436
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 2: it depends on if the two point conversion is good

2437
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 2: or not. If it's not good, it could be a

2438
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 2: game winning field goal or a game time field goal.

2439
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 4: Unbelievable day for Anthony Richardson in his return twenty thirty

2440
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 4: two to seventy two, a touchdown, throwing a two touchdown

2441
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 4: rushed in.

2442
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: Now all right, more exciting finishes coming up.

2443
01:59:58,200 --> 01:59:58,600
Speaker 1: Keep it here.

2444
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 3: This is Red Zone Radio. Oh Richardson out of the cup.

2445
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 2: Left, Dave in.

2446
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 11: The touch into the zone touchdown, Anthony Richardson his second

2447
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 11: rushing touchdown today and the Colts with the score right there,

2448
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 11: lead eight to twenty seven with forty six seconds to.

2449
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 2: Go, Colts Radio Network, and that was that, as the

2450
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 2: Jets go down to defeat again, Colts winning that game

2451
02:00:28,480 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty seven. This is Red Zone Radio.

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2457
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:51,160
Speaker 2: forty six seconds left, no timeouts for Aaron Rodgers. First play,

2458
02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:54,920
Speaker 2: he's scrambling, he fumbles, the ball goes backwards about ten yards.

2459
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 2: Then he completed to pass over the middle, which is

2460
02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 2: not good because they had no timeouts, and the game

2461
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 2: ends with a sack. Three an eight, Rich is where

2462
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 2: the Jets are after losing at home to the Colts.

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Speaker 4: So three and eight, I mean, it's getting to the

2464
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 4: point where you start thinking to yourself, like if the

2465
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:21,880
Speaker 4: Jets had Sam Darnold again, if the Jets had Joe

2466
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:25,520
Speaker 4: Flacco again, or not again, but if they had Joe

2467
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 4: Flacco instead of Aaron Rodgers, if they had you know,

2468
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a top tier of quarterback, but then

2469
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 4: you get into the second tier like Kirk Cousins or

2470
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 4: Brock Purdy or Dak Prescott, you know, I mean the Jets.

2471
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 4: It feels like with any of those names, or certainly

2472
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 4: any of the top quarterbacks of this league would have

2473
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:49,440
Speaker 4: a much.

2474
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Speaker 2: Better team than Rich. Let me back up a little

2475
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:55,240
Speaker 2: bit here, So they were two and three when they

2476
02:01:55,320 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 2: fired Salah and demoted Hackett, and since then they're one

2477
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 2: in five. So I mean, look, it comes down again

2478
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 2: to management Woody Johnson embarrassment. I mean, the guy has

2479
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 2: spent money. It's not like the Jets haven't spent money

2480
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 2: over the years, but they just seem to make one

2481
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 2: bad decision after another. This is the longest playoff draught

2482
02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 2: of any team, not just in the NFL, any team,

2483
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 2: and any one of the four major team sports, at

2484
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:31,839
Speaker 2: least in America.

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Speaker 4: But I didn't characterize this as a bad decision when

2486
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 4: he was signed. It's just gone so poorly. Like I know,

2487
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 4: there was a camp and you were a part of

2488
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:44,280
Speaker 4: the camp. In credit to you for getting it right.

2489
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:47,400
Speaker 4: Who said Aaron Rodgers isn't what he used to be,

2490
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:49,800
Speaker 4: even last year when he signed ahead of last season

2491
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:53,000
Speaker 4: before the Achilles tear. He's not who he used to be.

2492
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:55,640
Speaker 4: He's not the leader of the Jets need right now.

2493
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:56,840
Speaker 4: This is young team, etc.

2494
02:02:57,080 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 1: Etc.

2495
02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:01,600
Speaker 4: But there was another camp which I belong to, and

2496
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 4: I was ardently defending the Jets decision to sign Aaron

2497
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 4: Rodgers all the way through the basically the midpoint of

2498
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:11,800
Speaker 4: the season, giving the Jets a chance to incubate and

2499
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 4: get back from you know where they kind of left

2500
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:19,360
Speaker 4: off last preseason. Or I should say early last season

2501
02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 4: when he tore his achilles like. It takes a while

2502
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:23,840
Speaker 4: for guys to get used to each other in real,

2503
02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 4: live game situations. But this has gone on long enough

2504
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 4: now to make the assertion, and I don't think it's

2505
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 4: a bold one that this is a failed attempt, and

2506
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:39,840
Speaker 4: to your point, it's another failed attempt. I don't believe

2507
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:42,680
Speaker 4: in curses. I think that's a lot of hooey. But

2508
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 4: I do believe in bad guidance starting from the top.

2509
02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 4: And I think the Jets have made a lot of

2510
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 4: bad choices at head coach, and I think they've made

2511
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:53,320
Speaker 4: a lot of bad choices in their front office. The

2512
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 4: leadership from the top down has been the biggest problem

2513
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 4: for the Jets, and it's because they haven't put the

2514
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 4: right people to build rosters and to coach football.

2515
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 1: Teams in the positions that they need to be.

2516
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Speaker 3: All Right, Rams have finished off the Patriots.

2517
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 2: Rams win this one twenty eight to twenty two, So

2518
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:15,320
Speaker 2: a big win for the Rams after a disappointing loss

2519
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:18,680
Speaker 2: a week ago to the Dolphins at home. All Right,

2520
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:20,600
Speaker 2: the one game that does of interest that we are

2521
02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 2: watching right now, Steelers and the Ravens and the Ravens

2522
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 2: have the ball two and a half minutes to go

2523
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 2: in the game, so this game was way behind time

2524
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 2: wise with the other games around the league. I don't

2525
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 2: know why this game lasted so long, probably because Lamar

2526
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:37,360
Speaker 2: Jackson had a lot of incomplete passes. But now they're

2527
02:04:37,480 --> 02:04:41,800
Speaker 2: actually in Steeler territory. They're trailing eighteen to ten. Unreal,

2528
02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:44,600
Speaker 2: so the Steelers need a touchdown and a two point

2529
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 2: conversion just to tie this game. My play of the

2530
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 2: Unders looking pretty solid.

2531
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:54,800
Speaker 1: Rich, Yeah, I would agree, I would. You know.

2532
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 2: I saw that number as like, why is that number

2533
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,640
Speaker 2: so high? Yeah, it was forty eight and a half,

2534
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:02,919
Speaker 2: like forty eight and a half for Steelers Ravens.

2535
02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:05,360
Speaker 1: And what's crazy about this game is this score could

2536
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:07,920
Speaker 1: be so much better for the Steelers. They are zero

2537
02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 1: for four in the red zone.

2538
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:12,680
Speaker 2: Well and that includes it, you know, an end zone

2539
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 2: touched interception. I was just I don't know what Russell was.

2540
02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:19,000
Speaker 4: A terrible pick, but but yeah, I mean, this score

2541
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 4: could be out of hand. The Steelers could be absolutely

2542
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 4: mopping the floor with the Ravens. But look, credit where

2543
02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:27,280
Speaker 4: credits to the Ravens had when when the field shortened

2544
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:28,160
Speaker 4: and they were in.

2545
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:29,800
Speaker 1: Gotta have it situations.

2546
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 4: As a defense, they were able to slow down the

2547
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 4: Steelers at least, But my goodness, the Steelers have been

2548
02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 4: bad in the red zone.

2549
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Speaker 5: So it is.

2550
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:40,800
Speaker 4: It is just one of those games where, yeah, I mean,

2551
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 4: I guess you should have assumed it was gonna be

2552
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 4: a slobber knocker between two teams in the AFC North.

2553
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 2: That's what I thought, and I was like, so, by

2554
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 2: the way, Lamar Jackson in this game, twelve of twenty

2555
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:56,760
Speaker 2: nine passing, oh one hundred and fifty five yards, no

2556
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 2: touchdowns and a pick. That's a forty four passer race.

2557
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:03,520
Speaker 2: If they lose this game, they go to seven and four.

2558
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:05,200
Speaker 1: Anytime does this.

2559
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:08,200
Speaker 2: But Jared Goff is the runaway favorite now for the MVP.

2560
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 2: A week after a five pick game, he had a

2561
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:15,040
Speaker 2: perfect passer rating today, four touchdowns over four hundred yards passing.

2562
02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 2: But Lamar Jackson's game by far as worst of the year.

2563
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you could see it any other way.

2564
02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 4: Again, like the Detroit Lions are our heads and shoulders

2565
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 4: above the rest of the NFL. Jared Goff is the

2566
02:06:30,280 --> 02:06:33,560
Speaker 4: quarterback for the Detroit Lions. If he was a quarterback

2567
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 4: by another name. If that was Joe Burrow, if that

2568
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:39,440
Speaker 4: was Patrick Mahomes, if that was Josh Allen, would there

2569
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:42,600
Speaker 4: be any debate whether or not he's the MVP this season?

2570
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Speaker 2: I agree with you. There's this thing about Jared Goff, like, uh,

2571
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:47,880
Speaker 2: is he really an MVP?

2572
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 4: If Jared Goff, if Jared Goff's name was Lamar Jackson,

2573
02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:53,120
Speaker 4: he would be the MVP.

2574
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:55,360
Speaker 1: But he's not. He's Jared Goff.

2575
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 4: And so they hold what happened, what transpired in LA

2576
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 4: and Saint Louis before that against Jared Goff.

2577
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what did he do in LA? Led a

2578
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 2: team to the Super Bowl. He had some big years

2579
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:09,400
Speaker 2: in LA. It was just at the end where he

2580
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 2: became the scapegoat and they made a trade. They brought

2581
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:15,000
Speaker 2: in Stafford, won a Super Bowl, and you know, GoF

2582
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:17,520
Speaker 2: was just going to be a placeholder. I'm with it

2583
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 2: with a Lions, but you know what Buddy Dan Campbell said, otherwise.

2584
02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:25,720
Speaker 4: You're you're preaching to the choir because I look at

2585
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:28,120
Speaker 4: the time when they traded for Stafford, I was like,

2586
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:30,520
Speaker 4: that is the right choice. They weren't going to be

2587
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:32,640
Speaker 4: able to win with Jared Goff. And you know what

2588
02:07:32,840 --> 02:07:35,480
Speaker 4: I was right, because they won with Matthew Stafford and

2589
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 4: they did a nice job. But with Detroit, I was

2590
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:41,400
Speaker 4: like very intrigued with what they were going to be

2591
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 4: able to ring out of Jared Goff as they were

2592
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:46,720
Speaker 4: going to make a transition to what I assumed would

2593
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:49,200
Speaker 4: be a first round drafted quarterback at some point because

2594
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 4: they were in the midst of a complete rebuild.

2595
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:54,240
Speaker 1: You know, they weren't very good.

2596
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell's first season and his commitment to his quarterback

2597
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 4: and building around Jared Goff has been the reason, maybe

2598
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:07,120
Speaker 4: the sole reason why the Detroit Lions are so dangerous

2599
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 4: because they they worked with him, they taught him, He

2600
02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 4: learned the system under Ben Johnson and they developed him

2601
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 4: by the way Ben Johnson wasn't there at first before that.

2602
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: I believable. Whoa okay, gong on.

2603
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 2: We got a big gass play in this Ravens Steelers

2604
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 2: game all the way down to the sixth yard line.

2605
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,600
Speaker 2: There's a penalty flag though Nelson Aguilar was able to

2606
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 2: catch a pass and was just basically thrown it for

2607
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 2: grabs down to the six yard line for the Ravens,

2608
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 2: but there is a penalty.

2609
02:08:38,240 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 3: Is illegal man down field?

2610
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, is that what they called?

2611
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:43,480
Speaker 1: Now?

2612
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson was scrambling on that play, and apparently aligneman

2613
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 2: got down the field and shouldn't have been there, so

2614
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,080
Speaker 2: that play got called back.

2615
02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:56,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

2616
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 2: So I'm watching a replay of this right now. But

2617
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,480
Speaker 2: somebody got loose down field.

2618
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 4: That's brutal. Well, listen on these scramble plays. I mean,

2619
02:09:10,160 --> 02:09:13,880
Speaker 4: that can happen, especially if there's a run option. If

2620
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:16,800
Speaker 4: it's an RPO, you can have a situation.

2621
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:19,920
Speaker 2: Good lord, all right, So we have a third and

2622
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:23,360
Speaker 2: nine now, minute twenty six to go. Both teams still

2623
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,520
Speaker 2: have all their timeouts. But again, the Ravens need a

2624
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:29,760
Speaker 2: touchdown and a two point conversion just to tie this game.

2625
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:34,640
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson throwing cross his body that looked like a

2626
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:38,960
Speaker 2: block in the back that they didn't call, and they

2627
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:42,320
Speaker 2: didn't call it. So that's a first down for the Ravens.

2628
02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 2: Did you see this replay here? Once there's a block

2629
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:51,400
Speaker 2: it actually, yeah, because the receiver opened to me, it

2630
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:53,200
Speaker 2: looked like a block in the back.

2631
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm calling it, though, Steve, to

2632
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 4: be perfectly honest with you, because I mean, are you gonna.

2633
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't call it. So we got the ball

2634
02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:04,160
Speaker 2: down the twenty four yard line right now, and then

2635
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:07,560
Speaker 2: at fifteen to go still all six timeouts are on

2636
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 2: the board. Lamar Jackson trying to engineer a game tying

2637
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 2: score needing a two point conversion as well, lit'll flipout

2638
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:20,440
Speaker 2: pass there, so all right, we'll just keep it right here.

2639
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:22,640
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, Well, I'll tell you what. You can't call

2640
02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 1: that on Andrews the block in the back?

2641
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:26,560
Speaker 3: Are you saying because it was behind him?

2642
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 4: Well, no, it's just because it was such a close

2643
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:32,800
Speaker 4: call and it's such an important drive in the game.

2644
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 4: I mean, you flip a coin, you say, maybe he

2645
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:38,640
Speaker 4: got a little bit of the back of the defender there,

2646
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 4: but maybe nah. And I don't think he peeled back

2647
02:10:42,080 --> 02:10:44,520
Speaker 4: on him the way. It's not a defenseless defender kind

2648
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:46,120
Speaker 4: of peel back crackback block.

2649
02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:46,600
Speaker 1: All right.

2650
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:51,600
Speaker 2: By the way, finals score, the Vikings have defeated the

2651
02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:54,920
Speaker 2: Titans twenty three to thirteen. All right, here's Lamar Jackson.

2652
02:10:55,080 --> 02:11:01,360
Speaker 2: Touchdown Ravens. Unreal, Wow, touch down Ravens.

2653
02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:04,200
Speaker 1: Look a look at that?

2654
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:08,280
Speaker 2: Is that likely against say Flowers? Hey Flowers, Zay Flowers

2655
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:10,360
Speaker 2: on the receiving end. All right, there's a minute six

2656
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:12,840
Speaker 2: to go. Obviously they're gonna go for a two point

2657
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 2: conversion here to try to tie the game. But Zay

2658
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:17,680
Speaker 2: Flowers gets it in.

2659
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:18,720
Speaker 3: This a heck of a play.

2660
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, it's a heck of a route.

2661
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:21,560
Speaker 1: Jay Flowers.

2662
02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure his defender thought he was gonna run

2663
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:28,240
Speaker 4: to the corner and instead he gives them a little

2664
02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:30,480
Speaker 4: shove in the chest and the Steelers defender was like.

2665
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 1: Where's the flag. Where's the flag? Well, no flag at

2666
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 1: the top of the route.

2667
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:37,440
Speaker 4: He comes back and Lamar Jackson knew exactly where he

2668
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:38,400
Speaker 4: was going with the football.

2669
02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 1: Here we got there for him.

2670
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 2: Two point version and there is a whistle time out

2671
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:46,120
Speaker 2: by the Steelers.

2672
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:48,320
Speaker 1: Smart choice, get yourself organized.

2673
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:50,800
Speaker 2: Well they It was interesting because I thought they snapped

2674
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:52,760
Speaker 2: the ball before the time out. Apparently they got the

2675
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:55,440
Speaker 2: time out just in time to take a look at

2676
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:57,280
Speaker 2: what they're gonna do. It looked like what they were

2677
02:11:57,320 --> 02:12:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna do is have h Lamar Jackson trying to run

2678
02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 2: it in.

2679
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it looked like.

2680
02:12:02,760 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 4: It looked like a little bit of a QB follow

2681
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:07,080
Speaker 4: on the inside run there, hey, you know, And here's

2682
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 4: the thing, also, Mike Tomlin, smart coach, Right, you have

2683
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:15,440
Speaker 4: a player in your defensive backfield campaigning for a flag.

2684
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:17,760
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, the Ravens rush the line of

2685
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:21,240
Speaker 4: scrimmage to get their two point offense going. Everything's happening

2686
02:12:21,320 --> 02:12:24,840
Speaker 4: pretty quick. That's a good time to slow the game

2687
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:29,080
Speaker 4: down and give give you your defense, your defensive coordinator,

2688
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:33,640
Speaker 4: yourself an opportunity to really evaluate what personnel information you're facing.

2689
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:36,200
Speaker 2: All right, here we go right now again, two point conversion,

2690
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:39,400
Speaker 2: this would tie the game. And Lamar Jackson does keep

2691
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:42,280
Speaker 2: the ball and he is going nowhere. He throws it

2692
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 2: up and it is wow, that one absolutely nowhere. They

2693
02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:50,720
Speaker 2: lost yards on it, and that means that the Steelers

2694
02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:54,040
Speaker 2: now now again, there's a minute six to go here,

2695
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:58,640
Speaker 2: and the Ravens have all three of their timeouts, that's right,

2696
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:03,680
Speaker 2: so they can stop the clock. So if you're the Steelers,

2697
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:07,800
Speaker 2: obviously you're not going to do anything crazy. Well, but

2698
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 2: if you can't, like even if you took a knee,

2699
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:13,040
Speaker 2: you're only gonna knock off what about ten seconds, twenty

2700
02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:16,240
Speaker 2: seconds at the most, You're gonna give the Ravens some time.

2701
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:18,600
Speaker 1: Well, all right, so first.

2702
02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:22,280
Speaker 4: Play ten seconds, second play ten seconds. Third play ten seconds,

2703
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:23,680
Speaker 4: You're down to thirty seconds.

2704
02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:27,440
Speaker 1: Fourth down. Snap the ball.

2705
02:13:28,600 --> 02:13:31,240
Speaker 2: You can't run out thirty seconds, no way, I mean.

2706
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So look, I mean the Steelers are looking for

2707
02:13:35,120 --> 02:13:35,720
Speaker 1: a first down.

2708
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 2: All right, we will update you on that situation, but

2709
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:43,760
Speaker 2: right now it is eighteen sixteen. The Steelers the lead

2710
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:46,600
Speaker 2: the Ravens. All right, we continue on more coming up

2711
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:50,080
Speaker 2: right here on Red Zone Radio. It is over in

2712
02:13:50,320 --> 02:13:57,520
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh as the Steelers have defeated the Ravens eighteen to sixteen.

2713
02:13:57,960 --> 02:13:58,960
Speaker 2: Read it and weep.

2714
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:03,160
Speaker 3: Steelers are eight and two.

2715
02:14:04,040 --> 02:14:05,360
Speaker 1: Incredible, eight.

2716
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:09,920
Speaker 2: And two, and now the game had the lead in

2717
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:12,800
Speaker 2: that AFC North. Once again, Red Zone Radio here Steve

2718
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:16,800
Speaker 2: Harbin Rich Arnberger relive from the tai Iraq dot com studios.

2719
02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:22,880
Speaker 2: What a win for the Steelers. And again, we've been

2720
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:26,160
Speaker 2: sitting here all season long. You know, we've been talking

2721
02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:29,360
Speaker 2: about obviously the Lions in the NFC, and they have

2722
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:32,800
Speaker 2: yet to disappoint. But there's been this argument all season

2723
02:14:32,880 --> 02:14:37,640
Speaker 2: long that the Ravens have the best team in the AFC.

2724
02:14:39,120 --> 02:14:41,960
Speaker 2: But if you really look back, I mean, yeah, Lamar

2725
02:14:42,080 --> 02:14:45,680
Speaker 2: Jackson's having an unbelievable year. Derek Henry's had an unbelievable year.

2726
02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:48,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot of positives with the Ravens. Yeah, but

2727
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:51,240
Speaker 2: you mentioned something at the very beginning of the show.

2728
02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:53,720
Speaker 2: Their pass defense is not good.

2729
02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:54,440
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

2730
02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:58,400
Speaker 2: And so we always talk about, you know, most complete team.

2731
02:14:58,640 --> 02:15:01,800
Speaker 2: You know, teams that have the fewest weaknesses. There are

2732
02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:05,200
Speaker 2: a lot of weaknesses showing up in the Ravens right now,

2733
02:15:05,480 --> 02:15:07,920
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they find themselves battling for

2734
02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:12,680
Speaker 2: a wildcard spot instead of actually battling for the division lead.

2735
02:15:13,720 --> 02:15:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2736
02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:17,800
Speaker 4: Look, I think that the Ravens do need to be

2737
02:15:17,960 --> 02:15:21,160
Speaker 4: taken very seriously. I think they're a very dangerous team.

2738
02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:23,000
Speaker 4: I think they have a lot of talent on their team.

2739
02:15:23,720 --> 02:15:26,320
Speaker 1: I think the Buffalo Bills, in a similar ilk on

2740
02:15:26,400 --> 02:15:29,520
Speaker 1: the AFC side, needed to be taken very seriously because

2741
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:32,760
Speaker 1: they have a very talented roster. They're a very good team. However,

2742
02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:34,640
Speaker 1: when you look at the.

2743
02:15:34,720 --> 02:15:39,480
Speaker 4: Standings based on win loss record in the conference, there's

2744
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:42,880
Speaker 4: a clear winner in that conversation, it's the Kansas City Chiefs,

2745
02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:47,040
Speaker 4: and oh right behind them now in conference is the

2746
02:15:47,120 --> 02:15:50,520
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers at eight and two. Now, the Buffalo Bills

2747
02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:53,160
Speaker 4: are an eight and two football team, as well, but

2748
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:58,440
Speaker 4: if you look at the Steelers, they're beating solid playoff

2749
02:15:58,520 --> 02:16:02,920
Speaker 4: caliber teams and they are doing it in a fashion

2750
02:16:03,080 --> 02:16:05,000
Speaker 4: that very two teams, very few.

2751
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:08,200
Speaker 1: Teams can do at this point in the NFL.

2752
02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:13,560
Speaker 4: They're beating them with just competent, good old fashion, hard

2753
02:16:13,680 --> 02:16:18,960
Speaker 4: nosed defense and just enough offensively, like this game was survival.

2754
02:16:19,480 --> 02:16:21,440
Speaker 1: The Steelers were awful in the red zone.

2755
02:16:21,600 --> 02:16:24,160
Speaker 4: The Steelers could have boat race the Baltimore Ravens if

2756
02:16:24,160 --> 02:16:28,240
Speaker 4: they had any sort of red zone offense whatsoever. They didn't,

2757
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:30,160
Speaker 4: so they had to settle for a bunch of field

2758
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:32,600
Speaker 4: goals and it was a nail bier down the stretch.

2759
02:16:33,160 --> 02:16:37,720
Speaker 4: But goodness, gracious, I mean, Pittsburgh, they've if you look

2760
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:40,600
Speaker 4: at the wins that they have this season, it is

2761
02:16:40,800 --> 02:16:44,400
Speaker 4: a who's who of playoff caliber teams. Whereas you look

2762
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:47,840
Speaker 4: at the Buffalo Bills and it's like, Okay, they beat

2763
02:16:47,920 --> 02:16:51,119
Speaker 4: the Dolphins, the Seahawks, the Titans, and the Jets most

2764
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:54,640
Speaker 4: recently lost to the Houston Texans in The Ravens beat

2765
02:16:54,680 --> 02:16:58,160
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars the Dolphins earlier in the seasons, and

2766
02:16:58,520 --> 02:17:01,640
Speaker 4: the Cardinals out the Gates, who gave them all sorts

2767
02:17:01,680 --> 02:17:05,520
Speaker 4: of trouble. The Bills have beaten nobody. The Steelers have

2768
02:17:05,640 --> 02:17:08,720
Speaker 4: beaten playoff caliber team after playoff caliber team.

2769
02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:12,160
Speaker 2: Well, and that's I agree with you. I mean, right now,

2770
02:17:12,800 --> 02:17:16,120
Speaker 2: if you're just saying, based on their resume, who's the

2771
02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:18,400
Speaker 2: better team, I'm gonna take the Steelers over the Bills.

2772
02:17:18,520 --> 02:17:19,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now.

2773
02:17:19,360 --> 02:17:21,720
Speaker 2: I mean the Bills. You know they's We're gonna get

2774
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:23,760
Speaker 2: into that game. And at just a moment, by the way,

2775
02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:25,760
Speaker 2: I do want to update you. The Broncos took an

2776
02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:29,120
Speaker 2: early seven to nothing lead against the Falcons, but the

2777
02:17:29,200 --> 02:17:31,920
Speaker 2: Falcons right now have a second and fifteen at the

2778
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:35,720
Speaker 2: Denver twenty yard line, so seven nothing Broncos four minutes

2779
02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:37,440
Speaker 2: to go in the first quarter there and the forty

2780
02:17:37,520 --> 02:17:40,440
Speaker 2: nine Ers trail the Seahawks three to nothing, but they

2781
02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:43,039
Speaker 2: have a second and five at the Seattle ten yard

2782
02:17:43,160 --> 02:17:46,960
Speaker 2: line with less than three minutes to go in the

2783
02:17:47,080 --> 02:17:50,760
Speaker 2: first But yeah, I mean, let's not downplay the Steeler team.

2784
02:17:50,800 --> 02:17:53,680
Speaker 2: It just so easy and they just again they know

2785
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:56,400
Speaker 2: how to win games. It's just amazing to me how

2786
02:17:56,560 --> 02:17:58,920
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin it never seems to get the respect that

2787
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:01,360
Speaker 2: he has earned in a career that will end up

2788
02:18:01,360 --> 02:18:04,440
Speaker 2: in Canton, Ohio. He's still a young coach, isn't like

2789
02:18:04,640 --> 02:18:06,080
Speaker 2: still his early fifties.

2790
02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:07,400
Speaker 1: Crazy.

2791
02:18:07,520 --> 02:18:09,480
Speaker 3: I mean he could be there for I don't know,

2792
02:18:09,680 --> 02:18:11,440
Speaker 3: as long as I guess, as long as he wants.

2793
02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:13,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, don't get me wrong.

2794
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:18,520
Speaker 4: The Baltimore Ravens have beat some solid teams this season,

2795
02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:20,440
Speaker 4: There's no doubt. I mean, they lost to the Chiefs

2796
02:18:20,520 --> 02:18:25,039
Speaker 4: in the opening game by literally isaiah likely toenail. Yes,

2797
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:28,360
Speaker 4: but they lost to the Raiders. That was an ugly loss.

2798
02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:31,959
Speaker 4: To follow that up, they beat Bills, they beat the Bengals,

2799
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:34,959
Speaker 4: they beat the Commanders, they beat the Buccaneers. I think

2800
02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:38,680
Speaker 4: all four of those teams are quality victories. They beat

2801
02:18:38,680 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 4: the Denver Broncos. They actually they beat the Bengals twice

2802
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:44,960
Speaker 4: so on their way to a seven win season. I mean,

2803
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:47,720
Speaker 4: the Bengals have gone toe to toe with very, very

2804
02:18:47,879 --> 02:18:51,359
Speaker 4: quality opponents. Now, this is the first matchup against the Steelers.

2805
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:55,720
Speaker 4: Three games from now, in late December, they'll face the

2806
02:18:55,760 --> 02:18:56,560
Speaker 4: Steelers again.

2807
02:18:57,600 --> 02:18:59,600
Speaker 1: It could be a very different looking game at that point.

2808
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:02,680
Speaker 4: He knows what the trajectory of Russell Wilson throughout the

2809
02:19:02,720 --> 02:19:05,520
Speaker 4: course of this season is gonna look like, but I

2810
02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:09,720
Speaker 4: can tell you this, this AFC north Man, this is

2811
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:13,480
Speaker 4: one of those divisions that delivers every year on battles

2812
02:19:13,560 --> 02:19:15,680
Speaker 4: for the top seed, and we're seeing it once again

2813
02:19:15,959 --> 02:19:19,280
Speaker 4: because Mike Tomlin, he never says die. Even if he

2814
02:19:19,320 --> 02:19:21,960
Speaker 4: has problems at quarterback, he finds a way. And the

2815
02:19:22,040 --> 02:19:25,720
Speaker 4: Steelers are the second place team in the conference for

2816
02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:28,960
Speaker 4: good reason, because their strength of schedule and their record

2817
02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:30,120
Speaker 4: supports that argument.

2818
02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:33,000
Speaker 2: This is a very interesting matchup between the Falcons and

2819
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:35,560
Speaker 2: the Broncos. We were talking a little bit about it earlier.

2820
02:19:36,879 --> 02:19:39,800
Speaker 2: By the way the Falcons end up with a fourth

2821
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:41,879
Speaker 2: down place it looks like they're gonna attempt a field

2822
02:19:41,879 --> 02:19:44,640
Speaker 2: goal here Broncos leading seven to three over the Falcons.

2823
02:19:45,080 --> 02:19:47,960
Speaker 2: Bo Nick's another hot start to this game, four five

2824
02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:51,880
Speaker 2: fifty yards and a touchdown pass. And this team, I

2825
02:19:51,920 --> 02:19:54,400
Speaker 2: mean you talk about heartbreaking. I mean, you have this

2826
02:19:54,680 --> 02:19:59,880
Speaker 2: game done to beat the Chiefs. Beat the Chiefs, young team,

2827
02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:02,560
Speaker 2: how do you react? Well, they come back the next

2828
02:20:02,640 --> 02:20:08,320
Speaker 2: week and score on their opening drives. So again I'm

2829
02:20:08,320 --> 02:20:10,520
Speaker 2: a little partial by the way Falcons do get the

2830
02:20:10,560 --> 02:20:13,040
Speaker 2: field goal because I did make a bold prediction about

2831
02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:15,880
Speaker 2: the Broncos making the playoffs. By the way, even with

2832
02:20:15,959 --> 02:20:19,480
Speaker 2: their loss last week at five and five, there's still

2833
02:20:19,520 --> 02:20:22,840
Speaker 2: the last wildcard team in the AFC. But this marriage

2834
02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:26,680
Speaker 2: between bow Knicks and Sean Payton is working because you

2835
02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:29,080
Speaker 2: can see the confidence in this kid bo Nicks.

2836
02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:31,600
Speaker 3: Week after week. He's improving on his game.

2837
02:20:31,640 --> 02:20:35,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna make Orkie mistakes, but he understands it, and

2838
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:37,680
Speaker 2: they got an offense that works for this kid. So

2839
02:20:38,240 --> 02:20:40,560
Speaker 2: I think it's if your Broncos fan has been a

2840
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:44,360
Speaker 2: dry spell since that last Super Bowl win with Peyton Manning,

2841
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:48,280
Speaker 2: very dry, But I think they might be heading in

2842
02:20:48,320 --> 02:20:48,920
Speaker 2: the right direction.

2843
02:20:49,720 --> 02:20:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you too. I like the Denver

2844
02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:52,720
Speaker 1: Broncos a lot.

2845
02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:57,880
Speaker 4: It's going to be very interesting to see the results

2846
02:20:57,920 --> 02:21:01,280
Speaker 4: of this season when this this he's income to an end, Like,

2847
02:21:01,360 --> 02:21:03,880
Speaker 4: what are we gonna be saying about neck Bnicks? What

2848
02:21:03,959 --> 02:21:06,320
Speaker 4: are we gonna be saying about Sean Payne? They have

2849
02:21:06,480 --> 02:21:09,800
Speaker 4: the lead, like you mentioned, hosting the Falcons here in

2850
02:21:09,879 --> 02:21:12,360
Speaker 4: the first quarter today seven to three ball game. I

2851
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:15,640
Speaker 4: look at bo Nicks and I see a player who

2852
02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:20,600
Speaker 4: has quickly convinced Denver Broncos fans and certainly football fans

2853
02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:24,000
Speaker 4: as well, that he's a franchise quarterback that he's worth

2854
02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:27,440
Speaker 4: building around. And I think this this makes an argument

2855
02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:33,360
Speaker 4: for players to extend their collegiate careers. So you have name,

2856
02:21:33,440 --> 02:21:37,080
Speaker 4: image and likeness money around every corner. If you're talented

2857
02:21:37,120 --> 02:21:39,760
Speaker 4: in college, you're gonna get licks at the NFL level,

2858
02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:43,640
Speaker 4: So why rush it. I understand there's a lot of money,

2859
02:21:43,879 --> 02:21:46,080
Speaker 4: and I get it. If you're a guaranteed first round

2860
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 4: draft pick, you gotta go.

2861
02:21:48,120 --> 02:21:50,360
Speaker 2: You gotta go to Schadur Sanders. You're not gonna stand

2862
02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:52,440
Speaker 2: out of the year at Colorado exactly right.

2863
02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:55,480
Speaker 4: You gotta go strike while the iron's immensely hot, even

2864
02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:58,800
Speaker 4: though Shador Sanders is a millionaire many times over playing

2865
02:21:58,840 --> 02:22:01,920
Speaker 4: at Colorado because name, image and likeness, money and brand

2866
02:22:02,440 --> 02:22:04,320
Speaker 4: ambassador deals and all the things we know.

2867
02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:05,920
Speaker 1: You gotta go.

2868
02:22:06,280 --> 02:22:08,920
Speaker 4: But a guy like Boon Knicks playing in college as

2869
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:12,320
Speaker 4: long as he did benefit him greatly. And if you're

2870
02:22:12,320 --> 02:22:15,480
Speaker 4: a player who's entering college right now, and you're one

2871
02:22:15,520 --> 02:22:18,240
Speaker 4: of those guys who's gonna be hovering around the early

2872
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:20,680
Speaker 4: rounds but not a first round draft pick throughout the

2873
02:22:20,800 --> 02:22:23,439
Speaker 4: majority of your career once you're eligible.

2874
02:22:23,720 --> 02:22:27,040
Speaker 1: Just stay in college, collect paychecks, get better.

2875
02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:31,720
Speaker 4: See more football, get exposed to more defenses, get exposed

2876
02:22:31,720 --> 02:22:34,680
Speaker 4: to more end of game and end of half situations,

2877
02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:35,880
Speaker 4: gotta have it moments.

2878
02:22:35,959 --> 02:22:39,119
Speaker 1: Bo Nicks has lived that life at the collegiate.

2879
02:22:38,800 --> 02:22:41,920
Speaker 4: Level, and now, fortunately for him, because of where he

2880
02:22:42,040 --> 02:22:44,959
Speaker 4: ended up getting drafted in the first round, he got

2881
02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:47,640
Speaker 4: drafted to a team with a pretty decent roster, you know,

2882
02:22:48,040 --> 02:22:50,600
Speaker 4: and a really decent ball coach who moved on from

2883
02:22:50,680 --> 02:22:53,080
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, and so they got cheaper at the position.

2884
02:22:53,240 --> 02:22:55,400
Speaker 4: They can build around him. Even though they're paying Russell

2885
02:22:55,400 --> 02:22:58,080
Speaker 4: Wilson an astounding amount of money to start for the

2886
02:22:58,120 --> 02:23:01,440
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers this year, you have an opportunity to get

2887
02:23:01,520 --> 02:23:03,280
Speaker 4: really good, really fast in Denver.

2888
02:23:03,720 --> 02:23:05,800
Speaker 1: I like bon Nicks. I think they made the right choice.

2889
02:23:05,800 --> 02:23:10,959
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now, Manzi.

2890
02:23:11,320 --> 02:23:13,200
Speaker 8: I know, I'm just dying to use the rushroom. And

2891
02:23:13,360 --> 02:23:15,440
Speaker 8: so that's why they were like cut to Manzie.

2892
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:20,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm good, I'm good. But I was like, I

2893
02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:22,200
Speaker 7: can't let them talk for five minutes. I'm not going

2894
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 7: to survive. All right, three games currently going on, Chiefs,

2895
02:23:25,520 --> 02:23:28,080
Speaker 7: and Bill's a big one. Everyone's looking forward to.

2896
02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:28,560
Speaker 1: Well.

2897
02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:32,840
Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes on his first attempt through an interception.

2898
02:23:34,160 --> 02:23:36,800
Speaker 7: So Bills have the ball. Yeah, yeah, So that's how

2899
02:23:36,840 --> 02:23:38,320
Speaker 7: that's going. Okay, that's all. That's good.

2900
02:23:38,520 --> 02:23:41,119
Speaker 8: Brockberty in the end zone with the rushing touchdown, forty

2901
02:23:41,200 --> 02:23:43,320
Speaker 8: nine Ers are up on the Seahawks seven to three.

2902
02:23:43,959 --> 02:23:45,600
Speaker 7: After the first quarter is coming to an end.

2903
02:23:45,680 --> 02:23:48,600
Speaker 8: Right now, the Broncos are beating the Falcons seven to three.

2904
02:23:48,800 --> 02:23:51,600
Speaker 8: Bow Nicks with a touchdown pass to get things going

2905
02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:54,440
Speaker 8: with Nate Atkins a twelve yard touchdown pass, so seven

2906
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:57,040
Speaker 8: to three late in the first quarter. What happened earlier

2907
02:23:57,080 --> 02:24:00,440
Speaker 8: today while the Lions crushed the Jaguars fifty two to six.

2908
02:24:00,560 --> 02:24:03,119
Speaker 8: Jared Goff four hundred and twelve yards and four touchdowns

2909
02:24:03,160 --> 02:24:05,840
Speaker 8: in the air, a perfect passer rating of one fifty

2910
02:24:05,879 --> 02:24:06,520
Speaker 8: eight point three.

2911
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:08,359
Speaker 7: I'm on Ross Saint Brown eleven.

2912
02:24:08,120 --> 02:24:10,959
Speaker 8: Catches, one hundred and sixty one yards and two touchdowns.

2913
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:14,000
Speaker 8: The Packers survive after blocking a forty six yard field

2914
02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:17,560
Speaker 8: goal as time expires. They beat the Bears twenty to nineteen.

2915
02:24:17,920 --> 02:24:20,640
Speaker 8: Christian Watson one hundred and fifty yards off of four

2916
02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:23,760
Speaker 8: catches for the Packers in that one. The Vikings improved

2917
02:24:23,800 --> 02:24:26,600
Speaker 8: to eight and two after beating the Titans twenty three thirteen.

2918
02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:29,320
Speaker 8: Sam Darnold two hundred and forty six yards and two

2919
02:24:29,400 --> 02:24:30,520
Speaker 8: touchdowns in the air.

2920
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:33,879
Speaker 7: The Steelers hold on to defeat the Ravens eighteen to sixteen.

2921
02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:35,240
Speaker 7: They improved to eight and two.

2922
02:24:35,360 --> 02:24:38,080
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson threw for two hundred and five yards no touchdowns.

2923
02:24:38,080 --> 02:24:41,039
Speaker 8: He had one interception. Derek Henry thirteen carries sixty five

2924
02:24:41,080 --> 02:24:42,760
Speaker 8: yards and a touchdown. He has had at least one

2925
02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:46,400
Speaker 8: touchdown every week this season for the Ravens. The Colts

2926
02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:49,240
Speaker 8: edged the Jets twenty eight to twenty seven. Anthony Richardson

2927
02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:51,959
Speaker 8: two hundred and seventy two yards, one touchdown and two

2928
02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:55,400
Speaker 8: rushing touchdowns, including They'll go ahead touchdown that left forty

2929
02:24:55,440 --> 02:24:57,160
Speaker 8: six seconds on the clock, but Aaron Rodgers and the

2930
02:24:57,200 --> 02:24:59,680
Speaker 8: Jets can not do anything about it. The Dolphins outscored

2931
02:24:59,720 --> 02:25:02,680
Speaker 8: the race thirty four to nineteen. The Rams top the

2932
02:25:02,760 --> 02:25:05,320
Speaker 8: Patriots twenty eight to twenty two. Drake may in a

2933
02:25:05,400 --> 02:25:07,920
Speaker 8: losing up for two hundred and eighty two yards, two touchdowns,

2934
02:25:07,959 --> 02:25:10,360
Speaker 8: one interception, and the Saints with the thirty five to

2935
02:25:10,480 --> 02:25:14,160
Speaker 8: fourteen win over the Browns. Taysom Hill seven carries one

2936
02:25:14,240 --> 02:25:16,600
Speaker 8: hundred and thirty eight yards and a hat trick three

2937
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:20,600
Speaker 8: touchdowns in that one. And yeah, ap Top twenty five

2938
02:25:20,640 --> 02:25:23,039
Speaker 8: college poll came out. No no changes in the top

2939
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:24,959
Speaker 8: five at all. Biggest thing LSU is.

2940
02:25:25,000 --> 02:25:29,240
Speaker 7: Unranked for the first time in two years. That's it.

2941
02:25:29,520 --> 02:25:31,800
Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, no reason to stick around. You

2942
02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:33,080
Speaker 2: can do what you need to do, right.

2943
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:36,280
Speaker 7: Yes, thank you so much, thank you, thank you very much.

2944
02:25:36,400 --> 02:25:38,640
Speaker 2: Min See, hey, don't forget. Right after the show, our

2945
02:25:38,760 --> 02:25:40,680
Speaker 2: podcast is going up, So if you miss any of

2946
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:43,680
Speaker 2: today's show, check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports

2947
02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:46,280
Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and then follow, rate

2948
02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:47,520
Speaker 2: and review the podcast. Again.

2949
02:25:47,680 --> 02:25:50,520
Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

2950
02:25:50,560 --> 02:25:52,720
Speaker 3: You'll see the show posted right after we get off

2951
02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:53,160
Speaker 3: the air.

2952
02:25:53,680 --> 02:25:55,680
Speaker 2: All right, So she had mentioned Mahomes th to an

2953
02:25:55,720 --> 02:25:58,360
Speaker 2: interception to start this game off for the Chiefs against

2954
02:25:58,400 --> 02:26:05,760
Speaker 2: the Bills, Josh Allen versus Patrick Mahomes, and Mahomes has

2955
02:26:05,840 --> 02:26:08,800
Speaker 2: a four to three lead in those matchups. Allen is

2956
02:26:08,920 --> 02:26:12,160
Speaker 2: three and one at home excuse me, three and one

2957
02:26:12,240 --> 02:26:15,840
Speaker 2: in the regular season against Mahomes, but zero to three

2958
02:26:16,040 --> 02:26:18,560
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and a lot was made of that

2959
02:26:18,680 --> 02:26:20,560
Speaker 2: this week, saying why have you had so much success

2960
02:26:20,680 --> 02:26:24,200
Speaker 2: in the regular season against the Chiefs and zero success

2961
02:26:24,280 --> 02:26:27,280
Speaker 2: in the postseason, and he basically indicated, I really don't

2962
02:26:27,320 --> 02:26:30,520
Speaker 2: care about beating them in a regular season game, right

2963
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:34,039
Speaker 2: you know, I need to beat him when it matters most.

2964
02:26:35,320 --> 02:26:38,400
Speaker 2: That being said, I think this is a really big

2965
02:26:38,480 --> 02:26:41,320
Speaker 2: game for the Bills. And they just scored a touchdown,

2966
02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:46,440
Speaker 2: so right there, touchdown Buffalo to start this game. Rich,

2967
02:26:46,800 --> 02:26:49,560
Speaker 2: But you know, whether it's a regular season James Cook

2968
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:54,000
Speaker 2: on the run there just for a Bills team that's

2969
02:26:54,040 --> 02:26:54,640
Speaker 2: sitting at.

2970
02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:55,039
Speaker 1: Eight and two.

2971
02:26:57,400 --> 02:26:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a huge game for this

2972
02:26:59,320 --> 02:26:59,920
Speaker 2: team right now.

2973
02:27:00,360 --> 02:27:01,720
Speaker 1: I agree.

2974
02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:06,680
Speaker 4: First of all, I think it's an enormous, enormous game,

2975
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:10,080
Speaker 4: just just to give you a little bit more confidence,

2976
02:27:10,160 --> 02:27:13,480
Speaker 4: to remind you of the fact that you can beat

2977
02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:17,320
Speaker 4: the quote unquote best And I say quote unquote because again,

2978
02:27:17,480 --> 02:27:19,600
Speaker 4: I think the Steelers are the best team in the AFC,

2979
02:27:19,720 --> 02:27:22,440
Speaker 4: and it's because of who Mike Tomlin is and what

2980
02:27:22,600 --> 02:27:25,480
Speaker 4: he's able to do in close games. I understand they

2981
02:27:25,520 --> 02:27:27,560
Speaker 4: lost to the Colts and an ugly one, a close

2982
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:27,920
Speaker 4: one and.

2983
02:27:28,360 --> 02:27:30,480
Speaker 2: Lost to the extra point by the way, there you go.

2984
02:27:31,440 --> 02:27:34,200
Speaker 4: Lost to the Dallas Cowboys earlier this season. But I

2985
02:27:34,280 --> 02:27:37,840
Speaker 4: think a buttoned up Steelers team right now scares me

2986
02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:40,920
Speaker 4: more than a buttoned up Buffalo team or.

2987
02:27:41,160 --> 02:27:41,920
Speaker 1: A Chiefs team.

2988
02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:47,320
Speaker 4: I mean because the Bills, again, who have they beaten?

2989
02:27:47,400 --> 02:27:49,320
Speaker 4: If they beat the Chiefs, it'll be one of the

2990
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:53,039
Speaker 4: only wins that really satisfies.

2991
02:27:53,920 --> 02:27:54,520
Speaker 1: What do you got.

2992
02:27:56,000 --> 02:27:58,360
Speaker 3: To amplify your point? You know, we hear about strength

2993
02:27:58,400 --> 02:27:59,039
Speaker 3: the schedule.

2994
02:27:59,240 --> 02:28:03,680
Speaker 2: Yep, have a stack called so OV strength of victories

2995
02:28:04,360 --> 02:28:06,680
Speaker 2: and there are only two teams that have a weaker

2996
02:28:06,840 --> 02:28:09,360
Speaker 2: strength of victory than the Buffalo Bills.

2997
02:28:09,480 --> 02:28:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have it, and that's my point.

2998
02:28:12,080 --> 02:28:15,440
Speaker 4: The Bills, they've beat the Cardinals and the rest of

2999
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:19,200
Speaker 4: their wins are against the dregs at the NFL. So

3000
02:28:19,360 --> 02:28:21,080
Speaker 4: you look at the Chiefs and you say, well they

3001
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:24,119
Speaker 4: have beaten good teams. They absolutely have. I'm not taking

3002
02:28:24,160 --> 02:28:26,320
Speaker 4: anything away from the Chiefs. They've beaten a lot of

3003
02:28:26,360 --> 02:28:31,160
Speaker 4: playoff contenders or certain playoff teams this season. However, I

3004
02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:35,760
Speaker 4: will say this, even though Russell Wilson hasn't looked good either,

3005
02:28:36,280 --> 02:28:39,360
Speaker 4: the fact that the Steelers are eight and two, starting

3006
02:28:39,440 --> 02:28:44,840
Speaker 4: two different quarterbacks, it blows my mind. They're a better

3007
02:28:44,920 --> 02:28:49,119
Speaker 4: football team overall. Patrick Mahomes has been the consistent starter

3008
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:53,080
Speaker 4: throughout this season, and the Chiefs have struggled mightily to

3009
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:55,400
Speaker 4: get to nine and oh now they are nine to zero.

3010
02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:58,400
Speaker 4: And there is plenty that you could puff your chests

3011
02:28:58,400 --> 02:29:00,560
Speaker 4: out and argue if you're a Chiefs fan, or if

3012
02:29:00,640 --> 02:29:03,199
Speaker 4: you think I'm dumb for saying it, but I'm telling

3013
02:29:03,240 --> 02:29:06,959
Speaker 4: you there's something special happening with this Steelers team.

3014
02:29:07,440 --> 02:29:09,800
Speaker 1: They never say die, just like the Chiefs.

3015
02:29:10,280 --> 02:29:13,360
Speaker 4: And I think if Russell Wilson, if he can hone

3016
02:29:13,400 --> 02:29:15,800
Speaker 4: in it a little bit more and not make any

3017
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:19,320
Speaker 4: of those foolish errors that he's obviously capable of making,

3018
02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:22,680
Speaker 4: the Steelers are the most dangerous team, potentially outside of

3019
02:29:22,720 --> 02:29:24,320
Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions in the NFL.

3020
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:26,480
Speaker 2: All right, Remember a couple of years ago the Vikings

3021
02:29:26,520 --> 02:29:28,720
Speaker 2: were eleven and oh in one score games in the

3022
02:29:28,760 --> 02:29:33,360
Speaker 2: regular season, and we said they're not for real and

3023
02:29:33,440 --> 02:29:35,560
Speaker 2: then they end up losing a one score game at

3024
02:29:35,640 --> 02:29:37,879
Speaker 2: home to open up the playoffs against the Giants. Hard

3025
02:29:37,920 --> 02:29:41,240
Speaker 2: to believe the Giants were in the playoffs couple years ago. Yeah, right, Well,

3026
02:29:42,879 --> 02:29:45,000
Speaker 2: of the nine wins the Chiefs have had so far,

3027
02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:50,040
Speaker 2: seven are one score games. They're seven to oh in

3028
02:29:50,200 --> 02:29:54,080
Speaker 2: one score games, yep. And those are the kind of

3029
02:29:54,200 --> 02:29:58,959
Speaker 2: numbers that again, like with the Vikings, they they started

3030
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:02,119
Speaker 2: to balance out right over the course of a year.

3031
02:30:02,280 --> 02:30:05,320
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm never gonna get it. You'd be

3032
02:30:05,440 --> 02:30:08,560
Speaker 2: a fool to ever bet against the Chiefs because they

3033
02:30:08,720 --> 02:30:10,880
Speaker 2: just have the formula now to figure out how to

3034
02:30:10,959 --> 02:30:14,640
Speaker 2: pull games out. But you just get a sense like, wow,

3035
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:18,600
Speaker 2: remember what happened last year with the Eagles. Eagles were

3036
02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:21,240
Speaker 2: sitting at ten and one, and all season long we

3037
02:30:21,400 --> 02:30:25,800
Speaker 2: kept saying, yeah, but they don't look right right. And

3038
02:30:25,920 --> 02:30:28,200
Speaker 2: here the Chiefs at nine to zero and we're like,

3039
02:30:29,840 --> 02:30:32,760
Speaker 2: they don't look right. I mean, their defense has been fabulous.

3040
02:30:32,920 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 4: Let me put it in these terms, if Patrick Mahomes

3041
02:30:36,040 --> 02:30:39,840
Speaker 4: has played the way he's played for a different team,

3042
02:30:40,040 --> 02:30:43,040
Speaker 4: not the Chiefs, like say, okay, this is a great idea.

3043
02:30:43,720 --> 02:30:46,520
Speaker 4: Is this will help quantify how how bad of a

3044
02:30:46,600 --> 02:30:49,680
Speaker 4: season it's been for Mahomes. If Mahomes was playing for

3045
02:30:49,760 --> 02:30:52,360
Speaker 4: the Jets this season instead of Aaron Rodgers, the Jets

3046
02:30:52,400 --> 02:30:56,600
Speaker 4: would still be an awful football team. Like the Jets

3047
02:30:56,680 --> 02:30:59,440
Speaker 4: with the Jets need is somebody to elevate their roster.

3048
02:30:59,680 --> 02:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Now.

3049
02:31:00,320 --> 02:31:04,040
Speaker 4: Again, Patrick Mahomes typically a special quarterback finds a way

3050
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:07,640
Speaker 4: to win close games all those things, but he hasn't been.

3051
02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Playing capable enough football to.

3052
02:31:09,680 --> 02:31:13,039
Speaker 4: Carry a football team on his own, and no one

3053
02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:15,200
Speaker 4: quarterback can do that. I understand that you need all

3054
02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:17,560
Speaker 4: eleven on offense, you need all eleven on defense, you

3055
02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:20,520
Speaker 4: need special teams, you need good coaching, you need good

3056
02:31:20,560 --> 02:31:23,000
Speaker 4: game plans. All that stuff matters too, But you get

3057
02:31:23,080 --> 02:31:25,360
Speaker 4: my point. If it was Josh Allen with the Jets,

3058
02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:28,280
Speaker 4: really different kind of season. It was Lamar Jackson with

3059
02:31:28,360 --> 02:31:30,560
Speaker 4: the Jets, even Joe Burrow on a lose on a

3060
02:31:30,640 --> 02:31:33,680
Speaker 4: loser with the Bengals, or a five hundred football team

3061
02:31:34,320 --> 02:31:37,200
Speaker 4: with the Bengals, it would be a much better situation

3062
02:31:37,320 --> 02:31:38,920
Speaker 4: with Jared Goff, much better situation.

3063
02:31:39,400 --> 02:31:41,320
Speaker 1: Mahomes has struggled this season.

3064
02:31:41,360 --> 02:31:43,400
Speaker 2: I mean, look at these numbers. Think about this. His

3065
02:31:43,520 --> 02:31:46,040
Speaker 2: first full season as a start, he had fifty touchdown

3066
02:31:46,120 --> 02:31:49,360
Speaker 2: passes in twelve picks twenty six and five, thirty eight

3067
02:31:49,400 --> 02:31:52,320
Speaker 2: and six thirty seven and thirteen forty one to twelve,

3068
02:31:52,959 --> 02:31:56,920
Speaker 2: and then last year twenty seven touchdown passes, a career

3069
02:31:57,040 --> 02:32:00,560
Speaker 2: high fourteen interceptions, and as we sit right now, with

3070
02:32:00,640 --> 02:32:04,520
Speaker 2: that Picky threw earlier in this game, twelve touchdowns, ten picks.

3071
02:32:06,200 --> 02:32:11,240
Speaker 2: I mean, his numbers have gone down dramatically, but you

3072
02:32:11,360 --> 02:32:13,880
Speaker 2: know the one thing that hasn't been changed are his

3073
02:32:14,000 --> 02:32:16,680
Speaker 2: wins and losses. Yes, this is a guy who's now

3074
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:21,320
Speaker 2: career record in the regular season is eighty three and

3075
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:27,880
Speaker 2: twenty two. Eighty three and twenty two. I mean, it's crazy.

3076
02:32:29,080 --> 02:32:29,800
Speaker 1: It is crazy.

3077
02:32:29,920 --> 02:32:34,200
Speaker 4: And what you just said, I mean it sticks out

3078
02:32:34,280 --> 02:32:38,039
Speaker 4: like a sore thumb. There are no style points awarded

3079
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:40,200
Speaker 4: in the NFL. We talked about this a little bit

3080
02:32:40,320 --> 02:32:42,480
Speaker 4: last week to Steve and probably around the same point

3081
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:44,960
Speaker 4: in the show, because it feels like a lot of

3082
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:48,959
Speaker 4: our conversations about, you know, the health of these two conferences,

3083
02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:51,400
Speaker 4: what's happened in the early slay of the game, it

3084
02:32:51,560 --> 02:32:55,160
Speaker 4: rolls you back into the conversation about who is lording

3085
02:32:55,400 --> 02:32:59,880
Speaker 4: somewhere above the rest of their conferences individually and obviously

3086
02:33:00,120 --> 02:33:03,160
Speaker 4: on the NFC side, it's the Detroit Lions, who just

3087
02:33:03,240 --> 02:33:06,560
Speaker 4: put an absolute pounding on a team that if they

3088
02:33:06,600 --> 02:33:09,680
Speaker 4: were playing in European football instead of American football, the

3089
02:33:09,800 --> 02:33:12,959
Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars would be relegated. That's how bad they've played

3090
02:33:13,000 --> 02:33:16,200
Speaker 4: this season. But I digress. The point is, the Detroit

3091
02:33:16,320 --> 02:33:19,080
Speaker 4: Lions are that team, and they've looked like that team.

3092
02:33:19,480 --> 02:33:23,120
Speaker 4: On the AFC side, it's the Kansas City Chiefs, but

3093
02:33:23,320 --> 02:33:25,360
Speaker 4: they have not looked like that team.

3094
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:28,160
Speaker 1: They've got a better record than the Detroit Lions.

3095
02:33:28,440 --> 02:33:30,400
Speaker 4: If they faced each other right now, I think the

3096
02:33:30,480 --> 02:33:32,840
Speaker 4: Lions would boat race him by twenty one points.

3097
02:33:32,920 --> 02:33:33,640
Speaker 3: Oh easy.

3098
02:33:33,760 --> 02:33:37,480
Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, after that interception, one play

3099
02:33:37,600 --> 02:33:39,600
Speaker 2: drive to start the game for the Chiefs, a three

3100
02:33:39,680 --> 02:33:42,800
Speaker 2: and out, Mahomes got sacked for a six yard loss.

3101
02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:45,000
Speaker 2: So he has yet to complete a pass and the

3102
02:33:45,040 --> 02:33:47,880
Speaker 2: Bills lead this one six to nothing, eight minutes to

3103
02:33:47,920 --> 02:33:49,959
Speaker 2: go in the first quarter. All right, we got much

3104
02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:52,880
Speaker 2: more coming up. Games going on right now, will preview

3105
02:33:52,959 --> 02:33:54,840
Speaker 2: the Sunday night game. Keep it here.

3106
02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:56,480
Speaker 3: This is Red Zone Radio.

3107
02:33:56,840 --> 02:34:00,560
Speaker 2: Brock again chased out by Raymond Jones, not gonna run

3108
02:34:00,600 --> 02:34:01,360
Speaker 2: for the end zone and.

3109
02:34:01,440 --> 02:34:09,720
Speaker 13: Tie for the end zone touchdown, saying Francesco, We're gonna

3110
02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:11,840
Speaker 13: call that the party pylon.

3111
02:34:12,640 --> 02:34:16,280
Speaker 2: That's CAMBR forty nine Ers Radio Network and Brock perty

3112
02:34:16,320 --> 02:34:18,240
Speaker 2: and the forty nine Ers lead the Seahawks by a

3113
02:34:18,280 --> 02:34:21,959
Speaker 2: score of seven to six. Once again, this is Red

3114
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:24,640
Speaker 2: Zone Radio. Steve Harbin, Rich Ormberger with you. We're live

3115
02:34:24,720 --> 02:34:27,600
Speaker 2: from the ti rack dot Com studios. Want to thank

3116
02:34:27,760 --> 02:34:32,800
Speaker 2: are eight plus plus plus supporting crew. Moncey Belanos, who

3117
02:34:32,920 --> 02:34:36,920
Speaker 2: was in and out of well okay, she was you

3118
02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:39,279
Speaker 2: know what I said, She had to take care of herself,

3119
02:34:39,360 --> 02:34:42,240
Speaker 2: and yet she battled through and was able to get

3120
02:34:42,320 --> 02:34:45,920
Speaker 2: all the updates, all the scores. She didn't short change anyone.

3121
02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:50,400
Speaker 2: Chris who obviously running the board today. He's also been battling,

3122
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:53,600
Speaker 2: like a lot of us in this building have been battling, Chris.

3123
02:34:54,440 --> 02:34:56,440
Speaker 2: But I'm sure you feel a little bit better today

3124
02:34:56,480 --> 02:35:01,160
Speaker 2: after that annihilation the Lions put on the Jaguars.

3125
02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:02,280
Speaker 5: To I wish you could say it was because of

3126
02:35:02,360 --> 02:35:06,800
Speaker 5: the Lions, but no, it helped. It definitely helped to

3127
02:35:06,840 --> 02:35:08,879
Speaker 5: watch that game and not have any stress, that's for sure.

3128
02:35:08,959 --> 02:35:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no stress in that game. And then coach bo

3129
02:35:11,560 --> 02:35:15,880
Speaker 2: is our brilliant producer here bo Eagles won six in

3130
02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:18,160
Speaker 2: a row. We really didn't talk much about their win,

3131
02:35:19,160 --> 02:35:22,920
Speaker 2: as impressive as it was against the Commanders, but it

3132
02:35:22,920 --> 02:35:26,240
Speaker 2: would appear now the Eagles have control of the NFC East.

3133
02:35:26,400 --> 02:35:28,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, coming out here next week to Los Angeles to

3134
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:31,800
Speaker 12: play the Rams at Sofi Stadium. That's right, absolutely, So

3135
02:35:31,920 --> 02:35:33,600
Speaker 12: you might not see me here next Sunday.

3136
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:33,920
Speaker 1: We'll see.

3137
02:35:33,959 --> 02:35:37,520
Speaker 12: Is that a possibility, It's a very strong possibility. All right,

3138
02:35:37,600 --> 02:35:39,400
Speaker 12: may be covering the game for Fox Sports Radio in

3139
02:35:39,440 --> 02:35:40,080
Speaker 12: some capacity.

3140
02:35:40,160 --> 02:35:42,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, Dan and Carry are coming up, continuing on

3141
02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:44,760
Speaker 2: with the Red Zone Radio after we get done. I

3142
02:35:44,840 --> 02:35:47,320
Speaker 2: want to thank everybody for helping me out this weekend.

3143
02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:51,560
Speaker 2: I came in a little under the weather, at least

3144
02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:57,160
Speaker 2: from a voice standpoint, and battled, battled, had a battle.

3145
02:35:57,520 --> 02:36:00,160
Speaker 2: It's just I can't there's no time off way, you know.

3146
02:36:00,280 --> 02:36:03,800
Speaker 2: I don't take time off anyway, but especially at this

3147
02:36:03,920 --> 02:36:06,000
Speaker 2: point of the season because so many interesting things are

3148
02:36:06,040 --> 02:36:08,320
Speaker 2: happening in the NFL. Rich, I want to talk about

3149
02:36:08,360 --> 02:36:11,240
Speaker 2: this game that's coming up tonight between the Bengals and

3150
02:36:11,320 --> 02:36:11,960
Speaker 2: the Chargers.

3151
02:36:13,160 --> 02:36:17,600
Speaker 3: So the Bengals are in a must win, a must win.

3152
02:36:18,080 --> 02:36:21,240
Speaker 2: I mean, they're four and six, and this despite the

3153
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:23,720
Speaker 2: fact that Joe Burrow has twenty four touchdowns and four

3154
02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:26,880
Speaker 2: picks this year. He was my preseason pick to be

3155
02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:30,440
Speaker 2: the MVP, and statistically right now he's as good as

3156
02:36:30,480 --> 02:36:31,800
Speaker 2: any quarterback in the league.

3157
02:36:32,200 --> 02:36:36,320
Speaker 3: Their defense is awful. They may need a change of coach,

3158
02:36:36,959 --> 02:36:37,920
Speaker 3: but the Chargers.

3159
02:36:38,480 --> 02:36:40,120
Speaker 2: This is the team has yet to give up more

3160
02:36:40,160 --> 02:36:42,400
Speaker 2: than twenty points in a game this year, and a

3161
02:36:42,440 --> 02:36:45,160
Speaker 2: lot of people are thinking, well, that's going to change

3162
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:48,120
Speaker 2: because the Bengals can put up points. Tomar Chase is

3163
02:36:48,280 --> 02:36:51,160
Speaker 2: just having a huge year for the Bengals. How is

3164
02:36:51,200 --> 02:36:53,840
Speaker 2: this going to play out? Rich with that Charger defense

3165
02:36:53,920 --> 02:36:57,199
Speaker 2: as stingy as it has been, going against a Bengals

3166
02:36:57,240 --> 02:37:00,880
Speaker 2: team with Joe Burrow that's certainly capable of exploding for

3167
02:37:00,959 --> 02:37:01,480
Speaker 2: big points.

3168
02:37:01,879 --> 02:37:06,000
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think the Cincinnati Bengal they're gonna

3169
02:37:06,040 --> 02:37:08,920
Speaker 4: come up with a great plan against this Chargers defense.

3170
02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:12,400
Speaker 4: But one thing that the Chargers have done and have

3171
02:37:12,520 --> 02:37:15,760
Speaker 4: been able to do is wear down opponents.

3172
02:37:15,920 --> 02:37:16,120
Speaker 1: Yep.

3173
02:37:16,400 --> 02:37:19,640
Speaker 4: So this is unique because this has been a couple

3174
02:37:19,680 --> 02:37:23,720
Speaker 4: of years since Justin Herbert has taken over this football

3175
02:37:23,800 --> 02:37:28,840
Speaker 4: team and he's played for Brandon Staley, who I don't

3176
02:37:28,959 --> 02:37:32,360
Speaker 4: know if I would regard any of those teams as

3177
02:37:33,040 --> 02:37:36,160
Speaker 4: you know, or anybody would say, hey, what's the key

3178
02:37:36,320 --> 02:37:39,280
Speaker 4: feature of this team? You wouldn't say tough, Like I

3179
02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:41,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't think of the Chargers over the past handful of

3180
02:37:41,920 --> 02:37:44,600
Speaker 4: years and say, man, that's just a tough team. You know,

3181
02:37:44,680 --> 02:37:47,199
Speaker 4: where you're gonna get into a fistfight and they're gonna

3182
02:37:47,200 --> 02:37:47,959
Speaker 4: come out on top.

3183
02:37:48,280 --> 02:37:51,160
Speaker 3: Are you saying the Chargers of Morphed into the Steelers.

3184
02:37:52,400 --> 02:37:57,000
Speaker 4: There's a little bit of the Steelers vibe in Jim Harbob,

3185
02:37:57,120 --> 02:38:00,320
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of that. Hey, we're just gonna

3186
02:38:00,320 --> 02:38:03,560
Speaker 4: outlast year. It may not be ugly, or excuse me,

3187
02:38:03,640 --> 02:38:06,200
Speaker 4: it may not be pretty. You know, we we may

3188
02:38:06,360 --> 02:38:10,320
Speaker 4: end up mashing up against you on the ground, or

3189
02:38:10,800 --> 02:38:13,600
Speaker 4: you know, being a little bit undisciplined in the red zone,

3190
02:38:13,760 --> 02:38:16,520
Speaker 4: or you know, finding ways to sneak past you with

3191
02:38:16,879 --> 02:38:19,800
Speaker 4: you know, field goals, settling for kicks instead of points,

3192
02:38:19,879 --> 02:38:23,600
Speaker 4: you know, in certain situations. But but you are gonna, Hey,

3193
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:26,080
Speaker 4: you're gonna walk away most likely a loser, and be

3194
02:38:26,760 --> 02:38:29,320
Speaker 4: you're gonna walk away knowing that you faced us. And

3195
02:38:29,400 --> 02:38:33,000
Speaker 4: I think Jim Harbaugh has accomplished both of those feats

3196
02:38:33,480 --> 02:38:34,840
Speaker 4: in the early goings the season.

3197
02:38:34,879 --> 02:38:36,840
Speaker 1: Now actually it's not so early anymore. I mean we're

3198
02:38:36,879 --> 02:38:38,320
Speaker 1: taking over to week eleven.

3199
02:38:38,640 --> 02:38:41,120
Speaker 2: Very comfortably in the playoffs at this point, City at

3200
02:38:41,160 --> 02:38:43,720
Speaker 2: six and three, and obviously can enhance that with a

3201
02:38:43,760 --> 02:38:45,080
Speaker 2: win today against the Bengals.

3202
02:38:45,120 --> 02:38:47,400
Speaker 3: This is a tough read for me on this game there.

3203
02:38:47,320 --> 02:38:51,119
Speaker 2: Go really is because the one thing about Justin Herbert

3204
02:38:51,160 --> 02:38:57,080
Speaker 2: this year, his most impressive stat one interception the whole season.

3205
02:38:57,200 --> 02:38:57,480
Speaker 1: That's it.

3206
02:38:57,720 --> 02:39:02,080
Speaker 2: He's thrown one pick, and it just seems amazing because

3207
02:39:02,240 --> 02:39:06,800
Speaker 2: every time under the previous regime, when he would fail

3208
02:39:06,920 --> 02:39:09,879
Speaker 2: to deliver, you know, the argument was, well, he's our

3209
02:39:09,920 --> 02:39:11,640
Speaker 2: best player. We got to put it in his hands.

3210
02:39:12,360 --> 02:39:14,520
Speaker 2: And Jim Harbaugh has rained him in a little bit,

3211
02:39:14,959 --> 02:39:17,200
Speaker 2: and I think he purposely had him throw the ball

3212
02:39:17,440 --> 02:39:20,400
Speaker 2: very infrequently that last first three weeks of the year.

3213
02:39:20,440 --> 02:39:22,640
Speaker 2: Now it's changed over the last several weeks, but I

3214
02:39:22,720 --> 02:39:24,840
Speaker 2: think he just said, look, I want to prove to

3215
02:39:24,879 --> 02:39:27,920
Speaker 2: you you don't have to do this alone. We can

3216
02:39:28,040 --> 02:39:30,760
Speaker 2: run the football, we can play some defense. I want

3217
02:39:30,800 --> 02:39:33,600
Speaker 2: to show you how we can win without having to

3218
02:39:33,720 --> 02:39:36,360
Speaker 2: lean totally on you. And I think it's in the

3219
02:39:36,440 --> 02:39:39,200
Speaker 2: mindset now of Justin Herbert where he doesn't have that,

3220
02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:41,080
Speaker 2: you know, I got to have a big game or

3221
02:39:41,160 --> 02:39:42,160
Speaker 2: we have no chance of winning.

3222
02:39:43,040 --> 02:39:46,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Chargers have allowed the fewest points in the NFL.

3223
02:39:47,240 --> 02:39:50,360
Speaker 4: The Cincinnati Bengals have been good offensively, but they can

3224
02:39:50,480 --> 02:39:51,680
Speaker 4: run into some problems here.

3225
02:39:52,640 --> 02:39:55,200
Speaker 1: It's hard to pick a side, I say, take Vander

3226
02:39:56,000 --> 02:39:56,840
Speaker 1: take the Under.

3227
02:39:57,440 --> 02:39:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Chargers in this one.

3228
02:39:59,520 --> 02:40:00,280
Speaker 1: Keep it going here.

3229
02:40:00,440 --> 02:40:02,360
Speaker 2: More Red Zone radio coming out