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Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis and I am joined in a room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? We could lose that

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Speaker 1: money drop. I don't I don't like the insinuation, even us.

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Speaker 1: We did it during super Bowl Week. Yeah. How about

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Speaker 1: moratorium on Scott Zolac until September? I mean, or even

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Speaker 1: beyond September. I mean, no one's given big z more

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Speaker 1: time to pull back the reins a little bit. Who's

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Speaker 1: this partner, Sochi? Maybe it's Sochi's time to get a

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Speaker 1: little shine. I can't disagree with that. All right? Wow,

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Speaker 1: the four of us back together, first time since Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday. And that's great, Mark. How was your weekend

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Speaker 1: Very high? And what's going on there? Good relationship, very strong,

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Speaker 1: Mark on Instagram. I mean there's some good beats there

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Speaker 1: Your old lady. I mean I wouldn't address her that way,

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Speaker 1: Ah yeah, alright, So today's show a lot to get to, uh,

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Speaker 1: And also we're gonna talk about some uh you know,

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Speaker 1: or to be more accurate, Greg their teams say goodbye

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Speaker 1: the news. And yes, the big trade in the NFL

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Speaker 1: on March. ESPN's Adam Schefter first had it. Wes John

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Speaker 1: He gives twenty five million guaranteed to case Keenum. That's

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Speaker 1: a whiff too. Now he's getting the thirty four year

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Speaker 1: bad years. Your thoughts on this deal? So this one's

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Speaker 1: and I think overreacted because of Joe Flacco's name in

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Speaker 1: And what John Elway has shown us, not just with

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Speaker 1: John Elway has not proven he can get an offensive

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Speaker 1: line yet. Let's no, but he's at six years that's

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Okay, but but six years don't mean

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Speaker 1: And you also just look at Okay, Matt Paradise. Their

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Speaker 1: it's like somewhere in between, because it's not. Forget all

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Speaker 1: I get that, And to me, it's like you, what

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Speaker 1: What is your long term plan at quarterback? Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is snark free. I don't think John

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Speaker 1: they're giving up twenty million dollars. Yeah, you're right. I

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Speaker 1: don't care that the fourth Rod Vick. What does it matter.

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Speaker 1: and they're ultimately paying their quarterbacks, you know, about thirty

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Speaker 1: a problem. It makes the rest of your team harder.

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Speaker 1: And it's just again, it's kind of you with all

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Speaker 1: of this. Joe Flacco was not a sure thing, but

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Speaker 1: in if he's surrounded with talent and John Elway has

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Speaker 1: of years and and hopefully come out on the other side.

427
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Speaker 1: They need to They need to somehow get lucky at

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Speaker 1: quarterback with Bridgewater or I don't know, Tanna, I mean,

429
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Speaker 1: could they or just someone that Tyrode. They somehow turned

430
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Speaker 1: Tyrode and they just hope they win nine games. That's

431
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: and that's the best case scenario. A three and thirteen

432
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: scenario is very on the table too. Da Marius Thomas

433
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: is not connected to a team any longer. The Texans

434
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: released the veteran wide out after half a season. He

435
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: came over at the trade deadline. Uh Houston ship the

436
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: fourth round pick to the Broncos, hoping to compliment DeAndre Hopkins.

437
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: It didn't quite work out. Thomas, thirty one, who's obviously

438
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: lost the burst and ability that made him a start

439
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: with the Broncos, had just twenty three catches for to

440
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: seventy five and two scores in seven games. Then he

441
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: blew out as Achilles in Week sixteen. Uh So, who

442
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: knows uh ifuld even be ready to play uh come

443
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: Week one. But given the fact that he's thirty one,

444
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 1: given that he was in decline, Mark, you get the

445
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: feeling it's not going to be a welcoming market for

446
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Speaker 1: Damarius Thomas if he continues to play or wants to

447
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: play well. I mean, Greg and West here putting together

448
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: there list of free agents, and I heard you one

449
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: of you to believes they would not he would not

450
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Speaker 1: even be on the list potentially. The other had him.

451
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: I believe was it eighties something, late eighties. I had

452
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: him in the nineties. Greg, I believe, didn't hit him

453
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: at all, didn't him at all. I gotta do it.

454
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Speaker 1: He's thirty one, he'll be almost thirty two when the

455
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Speaker 1: season starts, coming off an achilles injury. Did not play

456
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Speaker 1: well for the Broncos or the Texans last year. And

457
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: look at a guy like Brandon Marshall, like we see

458
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Speaker 1: him as a borderline Hall of Famer, his last good

459
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: season was aged thirty one. At the end comes quickly,

460
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Speaker 1: it does, especially at that position. Finally, in the news,

461
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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers part way with defensive end Vinny Curry, who

462
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: was a big player in the Eagles Super Bowl run.

463
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: He part laid that into a This is one of

464
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: my favorite Rhodo World moves. They put all contracts now

465
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Speaker 1: in quotes, three year, twenty three million dollar deal last March,

466
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Speaker 1: so he gets paid. He made six six and a

467
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 1: half million UM uh in twenty eighteen. But that's all.

468
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: The contract ends up being one for six and a half.

469
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Speaker 1: They're able to get out of the deal and Curry

470
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Speaker 1: goes back on the street. Um. He had just two

471
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Speaker 1: and a half sacks in twelve games. Uh you got?

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, where does where does a Vinny Curry

473
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Speaker 1: type of defensive end with some buttifides but never you know,

474
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: monster seasons in his resume? Where does he fall in

475
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: the free agency pecking order? Let's see, I have my

476
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: list right here. It's like fifth or six on my list.

477
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: I had a nine disaster there to Mary's Thomas, I

478
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Speaker 1: had Ny Curry. They're in the same category. It's a

479
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: it's a reminder. Jason Light's got in a lot of

480
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Speaker 1: rope in UH Tampa. He's on his third head coach.

481
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: They have had quite a licked by the way disastrous

482
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: UH free agent signings and his record, there's twenty seven

483
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Speaker 1: and fifty three in five years, Mini Elway minus the

484
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Are you saying, uh in the legendary pro

485
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: career and the car dealerships? Um, are you saying that

486
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Speaker 1: maybe the Bucks should see the light on this? Hey,

487
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: it's a good It was a good job that the

488
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Speaker 1: eagle side of late not re signing. That's what good

489
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: teams do. Bang the self scout, that's what's happening in

490
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Speaker 1: the news. All right, Well, there's one other big piece

491
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Speaker 1: of news, but that will seg ind to our next

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Speaker 1: topic here Antonio Brown, who um gotta added nowhere saying

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Speaker 1: that's gonna seg into our next topic. Yeah, that's just

494
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: gonna this is more news segways too long a word,

495
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: it's industry jargon. Dannis mastered it. It's Dargo Bro got it.

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Speaker 1: Um seg into this next day, bro, Antonio Brown, Uh,

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00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: we know is having a tiff with the Steelers. Um.

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00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: There was an idea that he could end up being

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Speaker 1: traded this offseason, while he took the next move to

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Speaker 1: try to make it a reality, sending out on all

501
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Speaker 1: social media platforms, Thank you Steeler Nation for a big

502
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: nine years. Time to move on and forward peace hashtag

503
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: new demands. I don't know. I must not be following

504
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: the story close enough. I don't get the rep um,

505
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: but also included a highlight reel video and some music.

506
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: Really nice social media work by his team. Um, but

507
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: can't go over a minute Twitter debt. You know that's

508
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: a bit there a minute, and we can't play any

509
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: rights music at all. But apparently Antonio Brown could go crazy.

510
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Speaker 1: Uh you know playing who was it? Greg? I know

511
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: you love rap, Greg likes rapt. I listened to it

512
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: on mute. I did watch it for seconds. But do

513
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: what I want by little oozy vert. Not familiar with

514
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: his work, um anyway, so you know that he's drawn

515
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: the line in the city said get me out of town.

516
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: And of course, why would Why wouldn't you want to

517
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: play with the Steelers and play with an amazing quarterback

518
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: and make a ton of dough and be competing for

519
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: the superle every year. I hope this dude ends up

520
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: in purgatory himself, you know, send him, Send him to

521
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: the Redskins, and then see how how much he enjoys um,

522
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, being the man and the new headlines all

523
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Speaker 1: the time. All right, I'm gonna get off now, Pious

524
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: and set up this next seg and get a second

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Speaker 1: to the set. Greg, and let's lay out some realistic

526
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: trade options for Antonio Brown because the Steelers, I imagine

527
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: um are actively going to shop their Star Wide receiver,

528
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: or maybe they're not, but we're gonna throw out some

529
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Speaker 1: realistic potential options. Greg, I want you to get his going.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm I'm gonna start. And first of all,

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Speaker 1: I really enjoy that he just decided to announce his

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00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: goodbye with like a video that the Steelers have no

533
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Speaker 1: idea about. It's just like that's that could be like

534
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: a new way to just like quit your job there.

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00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure they saw that. It was just what that's

536
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: not up to you? Why do you keep destroying your

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00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: value by by giving us no choice but to trade

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00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: you getting an off field incidents showing up to radio

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00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: row uh, making quite an impression on some people that

540
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: you might not be sober like there was a lot.

541
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Speaker 1: There's been a lot going on to scare teams away.

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00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: You got it all wrong. He's he's playing chess, you're

543
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: playing checkers, bro. I guess he's trying to ruin his

544
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: eye or wherever team he goes doesn't have to give

545
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: up a lot to get him. He's over he's over leverage.

546
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: I either has to admit he's been wrong all along

547
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: or to fight his way. I I feel like Pittsburgh's

548
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: might just not trade him. I'm not even totally having

549
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: up on this. I wouldn't doubt that, right. I mean,

550
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna start with the Eagles. Now, the Eagles

551
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of cap issues, but they figure out

552
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: how to be. Steelers would love to trade him in

553
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: state and people got a comda. I'm not going to

554
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: treade him to like the Browns. Yeah, we've heard that's

555
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: absolutely effective. And keep him on your team. If you're

556
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: so afraid of the big bad other teams, Oh your state,

557
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: give me a break. Um yeah, Greg, show no respect

558
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: for borders. There's like six hours away anyways. CBS Sports

559
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: reported that the Steelers would not want to trade him

560
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: to the Pats or the Browns, Bengals or Ravens. Ravens okay.

561
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: So I was thinking what team could have, like kind

562
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: of a culture that they would feel confident enough that

563
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Speaker 1: they could take on his personality and in a need

564
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: and flexibility to figure it out. Nelson aghilar on the

565
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: hook for his fifth year option nine point three million

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Speaker 1: next year, no dead money whatsoever. Bye Bye, Antonio Brown,

567
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: come on over only for about what six seven million

568
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: dollars more and we just got a lot better. It's

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia that feels like a front office that would twelve

570
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: million dollars. He's on the hook for it. It's kind

571
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: of a sneaky thing that his contract is great because

572
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to give him any signing bonus. All

573
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: you gotta do is pay him twelve million next year

574
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: eleven the year. You know, that's great. You gotta be

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Speaker 1: Any team that trades from has to be realized that

576
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Speaker 1: he's going to demand an extend right away. Worked after

577
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: one year and one year and then you're gonna trade

578
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: him a year later. That's who we're dealing with here.

579
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Speaker 1: That's fine. Thoughts on this move. Like, like I said,

580
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Speaker 1: I think this is a front office that still believes

581
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: they are very much in a Super Bowl window. There's

582
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: a need at wide receiver, and I could they had

583
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Speaker 1: they I could see them pulling off a deal to

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Speaker 1: make this work. But I my other thing is that

585
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh keeping him is the ease to me the leader

586
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse. Interesting, I don't disagree with either of you, guys.

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00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean I sensed that the Steelers might be like, Okay,

588
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: we won't trade him in the state. But are you

589
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: sitting out the rest of the segment? Mark, then not

590
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Speaker 1: at all. I have an idea too of a place

591
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: to go, but west continue Denver Broncos Joe Flacco's newest toy.

592
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: What a nightmare that their receivers coach, Zaka Zani, was

593
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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's receiver's coach in college. They also have Mike Munchak,

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Speaker 1: their new O line coach, who was in Pittsburgh. There's

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00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: some connections there and I think, I mean, always moved

596
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: for Flat tells me he still thinks he has a

597
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: contender of things break right, I'm not sure. Antonio Brown

598
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: remembers college and uh Ian our insider did mention the

599
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: Broncos as one of the teams that would be willing

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00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: to maybe take a run at it. He said they

601
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: were plotting. This was about a month ago. But he

602
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: said they thought they'd give up a draft pick for him.

603
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: So you might be onto something. What kind of what

604
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: kind of what would they give up? Did you say?

605
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what Antonio Brown's value

606
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: is I really don't I don't you guys, I wouldn't

607
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: assume that it's your first round pick. I don't think

608
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: anybody's given up the first round pick, which is crazy.

609
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: It's crazy you say that. But you also famously don't

610
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: think character matters, and not showing up for the biggest

611
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: game of the year. I think that they don't think character,

612
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: so you don't said around your team with jerks and idiots.

613
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: And it's a case by case basis. Brown's offseason is

614
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: concerning because he's not in his right mind. He's fighting,

615
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: so I think that does hurt his trade value, and

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00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: it would make me concerned. Would because when you say that, okay,

617
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: he like threw something, you know he's getting sued because

618
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: he threw something off off the porch and almost hit

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Speaker 1: a kid. There's been some other um these are bad things,

620
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: salt alligate stuff like that. There's some concerns about his

621
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: state of mind in general. I mean, it's almost hitting

622
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: for the cycle when it comes, like when he showed up.

623
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Speaker 1: I think the fact when he showed up to Radio Row,

624
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: I think that maybe got around a little bit that

625
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: he just didn't he he had some very strange interviews,

626
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: and I think teams are just like, what's up with

627
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: this guy? He basically is kind of freaking out. At

628
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: the end of last season he set up I mean,

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00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: it's it's problem. It's all big Ben's fault. I heard

630
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: that on Twitter. It's all big Ben's fault. I need

631
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: to plug in on this radio row thing. I totally

632
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: missed it. So the blog mustache. That's a red flag

633
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: on radio road what was going on? So he showed

634
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: people thought he was drunk. Watched some of his interviews.

635
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: He just kind of he didn't seem in his right mind.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't stay drunk Ricky for a newsdrop for tomorrow show,

637
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: for Friday show. Let's find a Antonio Brown interview that

638
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Speaker 1: was saucy. So it's not alcohol, he was under the influence.

639
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even want to. We're not

640
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: alleging anything, but he just doesn't seem that. I mean,

641
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like he's a in a good frame

642
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: of your On a very popular NFL podcast, you were

643
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: putting a spotlight on people that are alleging It's so

644
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: essentially you are as well implicated. Accept that argument. There

645
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: are whispers whispers out there. I'll throw one out there.

646
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: How about the Packers, I mean, here we go. Well,

647
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Let me to the NFC

648
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: title game with Green Bay. Let me let me explain why, because, um,

649
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They're coming off obviously, back to back, very

650
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: disappointing seasons. Aaron Rodgers got he got some heat for

651
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: the first time ever last year for his play, which

652
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: he deserved. Mike McCarthy got even more heat obviously, which

653
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: he deserved as well. He got shipped out of town.

654
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: But the one thing that kind of went under the

655
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: radar I thought was how shoddy his supporting staff was

656
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position. Davante Adams is an all pro,

657
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: He's a star, okay, but if you need more than that,

658
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham right now, they're saying they're keeping him around.

659
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: But Jimmy Graham is not Jimmy Graham anymore. Randall Cobb

660
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: is in deep decline. That that kind of surprised me.

661
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: How that how that worked out. Uh, they have some

662
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: other receivers that are you could say, are promising, but

663
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: did not make the leap when they were needed last year.

664
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: So why don't you uh, and Aaron Rodgers thirty six.

665
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: It's time to make a move. It's now or never.

666
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: Go give him Antonio Brown in line up, Davante Adams

667
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: across from him, and let's let's see if this old

668
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: dog can hunt. Let's see if Aaron Rodgers can go

669
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: nuts and throw forty eight hundred yards and forty two touchdowns.

670
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: If if he's as great as he is, and we've heard,

671
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: and it's been setting this podcast that he is arguably

672
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: the greatest pure quarterback ever. Well, let's before his prime

673
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: is up. Let's give him one of the most productive

674
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: players ever to throw too. And what would it cost?

675
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, I mean maybe Antonio browns and nuts

676
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: and that is gonna hurt his value, but I still

677
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: think he would command a first round pick. Um, So

678
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a first rounder. Plus, let's get Jimmy

679
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: Graham out of the building, do some and do some

680
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: bookkeeping for us, because Antonio Brown is gonna cost a

681
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: lot down the line potentially, So Jimmy Graham and the

682
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: first him out of the building. No, they're gonna trade

683
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: him salary dump uh. And the Steelers, I know they

684
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: have some tight ends they like, but They're they're gonna

685
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: give it a shot. With part of the deal. They

686
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: want a first rounder. They want to save face and

687
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: and at least big. We have this name brand and

688
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: a first rounder coming to us. Don't be mad, fans,

689
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: and you get Antonio Brown's Antonio Brown in a sixth

690
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: You'd be paring the most extra wide receiver and quarterback together.

691
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: It feels like a trade, a dream trade for NFL network.

692
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: It's automatically months of programming just ticketed to leave everything.

693
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: It's not fantasy trade. PARTA. They need that, they need

694
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: the money, the Gram party forget about that. But I

695
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that it's an absurd idea. I

696
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: don't know bas front office to be that aggressive and

697
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: pull different than the old days. Yeah, I see Antonio

698
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: Brown enjoying the Green Bay nightlife, right, that wouldn't be

699
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: a bad thing for me that Brett Farve get him

700
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: out of Atlanta. I I think Antonio Brown is a

701
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: great person to go after despite all of this, Like

702
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: even though, but here's the thing, I really do believe

703
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: that you're gonna get like that TiO honeymoon year out

704
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: of Antonio Brown this year, Like you can't discount a

705
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: that he was playing great last year even though he

706
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: wasn't quite at his level. He's still an incredible player,

707
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: incredibly prideful player, and I think he's gonna want to

708
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: prove to everyone in a new spot for at least

709
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: a year, like he's still the man. And so I

710
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: think it's a little like Randy Moss, you know, when

711
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: he went to the Patriots, of like getting Randy Moss.

712
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: He's not that far off that he's really not point

713
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: to the numbers but he has on defense is not

714
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: nearly the effect. But he's one of the great receivers

715
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: of his generation. There's just no doubt about that. I

716
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: have one for you, and it's the argument against it

717
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: before I put the argument for is that the team

718
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: is not at the Super Bowl doorstep. But I think

719
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: there's some pressure on the front office to make a move,

720
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: and I think it's the forty Niners. There's already been

721
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: this hubbabalou where he wants to play in San Francisco.

722
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: They've got they've got the cap room, no question about it.

723
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: And you have and Kyle Shanahan arguably one of the

724
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: best coaches around. But the pairing of him and John

725
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: Lynch have won ten games in two seasons. You need

726
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: to make some sort of a move that goes beyond

727
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: the slow, you know, methodical team building scenario. They've been

728
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: active in free agency and you pair them with Jimmy

729
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: g and I think that would be a fresh start.

730
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: He's out of the a f C. For the Steelers.

731
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what the cost would be because they

732
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: sit there with that number two pick in the draft,

733
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: maybe a second rounder and the second top of the

734
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: second future worth or third or something. Yeah, that could

735
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: get it done potentially to it. I love it. Wouldn't

736
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: they be considered the favorites at this point? Well, I

737
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: mean they've got there's nothing that would be really it

738
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't be hard for them to pull it off if

739
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers were open to it. And I don't think

740
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: the Steelers care about sending Antonio Brown where he wants

741
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: at all, but he's expressed interests where he wouldn't be

742
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: difficult about it. I think it's a big um, as

743
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: you alluded to put up our shut up here for

744
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: everyone in Bob shout hand. You can give a pass

745
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: because it's just been a choppy start with what's been

746
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: around him. But certainly the GM who is a football

747
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: and full player turned analyst that turned into a GM randomly, Uh,

748
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: he needs to have some randomly it was pretty random.

749
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and then all of a sudden

750
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: he got that job. But um, they need to show

751
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: some real progress. They gotta win. Just like Help wanted

752
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: sign at the while he was there, He's like, oh wow,

753
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: It's like when you're looking for an apartment and you're

754
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: just wandering around Manhattan and all of the study's in

755
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: an open house, like, oh, I can you avoid the

756
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: broker's fee and you wanted and you get the apartment,

757
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: you look out. I think that's what happened, John John

758
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: John Lynch. But anyway, I think if they don't win

759
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: like eight games, at least he's gonna get shipped out

760
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: of town. Shanahan will be on the hot seat. They

761
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: need to make a move this year. Hopefully Jimmy g

762
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: stays healthy and they're not afraid to be aggressive. As

763
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: Mark alluded to, they've spent a lot of money in

764
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: free agency, and a lot of the money that they

765
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: spend in free agency is being flushed out because it

766
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: didn't work out this year. You know, there's a little

767
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: tease for the cuts list. There half the guys that

768
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: Lynch is signed or gone, anybody else have one. I'll

769
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: just throw it out there because the big fish having

770
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: Silver brought it up on Twitter, and there is there

771
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: is logic to it. Even though we heard about this

772
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: and consider the source with the no fly list for

773
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: the Steelers. But the Patriots have a real need for stealers.

774
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: Will never do that, right, But what I agree, but

775
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: it's they would have to pay a premium. They would

776
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: have to pay a major premium. But what if the Patriots,

777
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: because what else do they have to prove? Not now

778
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: they're just they have f you money, and they're like,

779
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: there's nothing at this point that why not just try

780
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: to get Brown in here and set some records and

781
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: try to go to nineteen and o again, what if

782
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: you gave up two first round picks f Antonio Brown

783
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: who says no, I the Patriots say, now, as much

784
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: as it would be fun and as much as I'm

785
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, mildly concerned right now that the number two

786
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: receiver for the Patriots under contract next year is Braxton Barrios. Yeah,

787
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: but their first round back, I guess the second round

788
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: pick essentially, So they need like four receivers and they

789
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: need you know, one or two starters. But there's no

790
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think that the Steelers would ever do it.

791
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: And then about you, if you were the Gym, No,

792
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't because who cares After Tom Brady finally retires?

793
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: Who who cares that the Patriots going to? You don't

794
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: want to go. I don't want them to just I

795
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: don't want them if you leave a train. I don't

796
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: want them to go against what what they have built

797
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: and done it does. What about you, Ricky? You want

798
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown? I would say, make him for a second

799
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: round pick, not for two second. I'll give you one first.

800
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: I well, we're not gonna do that your Jets. I'll

801
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: give you a first and you have to take Chris

802
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: Hogan on your team. I know he's a free agent,

803
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: but you have you have to agree to sign Chris Hogan.

804
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: That's part of the deal. I think Levy on Bell

805
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: is gonna end up on the Jets, but do not

806
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: go near Antonio Brown. Um, all right, good seg what's

807
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: seg to the next? Seg? Bro? Big names getting cut? Greg?

808
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: I know you're working on this. Greg has a whole

809
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: like um outlined, I've noticed this, Greg. We've worked together

810
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: long enough now once we hit off off season. If

811
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: you look at Greg's calendar of events, he has like

812
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: locked and loaded ten different columns that take him basically

813
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: from early February till about I don't know June or so,

814
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: and you just roll one after and another some variations.

815
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: But yes, you even do, and they do well, and

816
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: they promote him well, and Greg says, hey, if it

817
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: ain't broke, roll out again. It's like this is one

818
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: of like this little preambo we did this last year.

819
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: I believed this is the brand. This is like if

820
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: you ever try to get on Greg's corner, he'll literally

821
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: bite you if you try to write something like this

822
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: like it would be, it'll be amazing. Mark. If you

823
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: go through Greg's archive and see whatever is the next one,

824
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: and then you go to Ali and then and write

825
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: it out from under Greg's feet and just see how

826
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: Greg react. You'd find my body lifeless and with the

827
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: blood drained out along the ten Highway Black Dollyhood. Anyway, Greg,

828
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: so you is it up on the side or it's

829
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: coming A FC version is up? Okay, NFC will be

830
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: That's the other trays. You break it down by com ference,

831
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: it's a double cover. It's too long. Otherwise I like

832
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: to get into the nitty gritty anyway. So, yes, the

833
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: big names that could be cut. So let's start with

834
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: the a f C. Why not Greg, Why don't you

835
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: throw throw a name out there, Let's let's discuss. I

836
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: like doing this. This is an exercise for like free

837
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: agency prep, which is I really do enjoy free agency,

838
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: and because some names come up that you wouldn't have

839
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: thought about. And Justin Houston was the name that surprised

840
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: me the most. That in Kansas City. I think it's

841
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: almost the expectation that Justin Houston uh is going to

842
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: get caught even though he's playing at a high level

843
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: of twenty million dollar cap hit. They're changing to a

844
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: four three defense. We didn't really talk about them hiring

845
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: Steve Spagnola, but that's a pretty big sea change. And

846
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: when you listen to their GM Brett Beach talk about

847
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: how all the their players are gonna fit, it was

848
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: pretty notable. How they've already committed to de Ford is

849
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna be back, whether it's a franchise, tagger a contract,

850
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: He's back. They mentioned Derek Nandi As, here's where he's

851
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: gonna start. They kept saying, start Chris Jones, this is

852
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: how he fits. And then when they asked about Houston,

853
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: they just were like, oh, yeah, Houston has done a

854
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: lot of great, great things for us. And so that's

855
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: a guy that is interesting to me because I think

856
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: he'll be in our top ten West when you think

857
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: in our top ten free agents when he's available. No,

858
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: he will not be once all the tag Once all

859
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: the guys get tagged, he'd be in the top twenty

860
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: at the vision A. I have a big gap around

861
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen, and I think he'd slide in there. But

862
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: he's old to be in the top ten. He's not

863
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: quite as old as you think though. How old is

864
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: he he is to be about thirty right, yeah, you

865
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: know he got some years left at thirty. He's gonna

866
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: get paid. He he is a guy. He just turned

867
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: thirty in January, and I think there's a good chance

868
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: he gets cut. You don't have Eric Barry as a

869
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: cut candidate. He he's another one certainly you could throw

870
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: on there. As I think Chiefs fans, as much as

871
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: they adore Eric Berry, I think that he hasn't given

872
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: them anything since he signed a six year, seventy eight

873
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: million dollar contract that's like a complicated one with injuries

874
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: and everything, and I think there would maybe try to

875
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: rework his contract. But you're absolutely right. He is another

876
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: one that could get cut from the Chiefs. Throw another

877
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: one out there, Greg, I mean, you guys can throw

878
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: any I noticed that you appropriately packaged a bunch of

879
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: Dolphins together, and I feel like that team you're getting,

880
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: you're dumping Ryan Tannehill, Devonte Parker, Robert Quinn, Erica's future husband,

881
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: potentially Danny Amendola, who's gonna need, you know, some financial

882
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: support after if this comes true. I mean he made

883
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: six million, isn't either one with the modeling contract? Yeah, no,

884
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: he's the one that cheats on models. They're back together.

885
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: They're back together. What's up with that they forgave each other? Yeah,

886
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: they both cheated. So then didn't she like sell his

887
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: rolex or something that she you know what, I don't care,

888
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna work in the long run. Adult. Wait, if

889
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: how annoyed are you that that he's back together with this?

890
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: It was annoying because we're totally flirting on radio row

891
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: and then she's like Instagram storying around Atlanta. I was

892
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: like that that I know she literally she tagged me.

893
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: It was crazy. That list is a reminder that, like

894
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have made basically every different type of personnel

895
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: mistake you can possibly make. Like Andre branch here's the

896
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: guy that was on our team that we signed for,

897
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: resigned for way too much money because he had a contract.

898
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Here Tannehill, we should not have given him that contract

899
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: last year. Parker is a first round bus that we

900
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: sort of stuck around with too long. Uh. Who else

901
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: was on that list? I mean Robert Quinn was a

902
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: guy they traded for which everyone knew that wasn't gonna work.

903
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: It ended up not working. And like they've made every

904
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: type of mistake. It's crazy how they've won between six

905
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: and eight games in nine of ten seasons. I mean,

906
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 1: that's hard to do. Let me ask you a question,

907
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: Davante Parker, they picked up his fifth year option. Can

908
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: they just drop it now? Yeah? That's that's like I

909
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: almost could have made that a different category of like

910
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: these fifth year option guys that are on the books

911
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: for a lot of money. Kevin Johnson, the cornerback of

912
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: the Texans, is another one. That comes to mind. Yes,

913
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: they can just cut him as long as he's not

914
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna pay for him. I wouldn't doubt it. I mean,

915
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: not not that much of my not not nine millions

916
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: at a name that really interests you is someone that

917
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: would command a saucy market. I um saw this. After

918
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: the season, there was some talk about certain Ravens players,

919
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: and Michael Crabtree did not surprise me. Jimmy Smith surprised

920
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: me a little bit, but the was there were whispers

921
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: that Eric Weddle could be gone, and Eric and Gregg's

922
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: got him on his list. He would He got a

923
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: lot of talk for Pro Bowl and played at a

924
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: pretty high level last year. But he is what going

925
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: on thirty three, going on thirty four. Maybe he's like

926
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: a vocal leader on that team, important guy in that

927
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: locker room. To right, he's hearing it too, because he

928
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: said at the end of the season, I'll either retire

929
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: or play for the Ravens. I don't want to play

930
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: for anyone else. And then a week or two later

931
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: he kind of was like, well maybe I would play

932
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: for someone else. Makes it sound like Bruce Arians approach

933
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: to careerism. Well they're trying to They're probably trying to

934
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: reduce his contract. But yeah, they've got a lot of

935
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: defensive backs. When you look at the Ravens roster, I

936
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: was thinking about who who said that they could fall

937
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: through the floor last episode was that Western Dan when't

938
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: wasn't one of you? Or no, may have been Check.

939
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it was somebody I remember it being said. Maybe

940
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: it was Checked. That great they they have, they have

941
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: so many questions and so many players they're gonna cut.

942
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: They have a lot of issues. I feel like i'm

943
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: their roster there, Mark, including all those guys that West

944
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: just said is gonna cut. What about your boy Jamie Collins?

945
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: He seems like a relic from a dark period in

946
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: the franchise when they had to overpay to bring in stars.

947
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: He's never quite broken through. Would you be all right

948
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: if they decided to cut the cord. I'd be surprised

949
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: if he's on the team. I mean there have been whispers,

950
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: as you noted in your Peace, Craig, that Jamie Collins

951
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: is someone that's been called out various Sundays by viewers

952
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: and others for his effort level. But also you're right

953
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: he was a sashy brown you know, sort of by

954
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: low but pay him way too much money type of

955
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: guy that has been fine, but you never got the

956
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: best of Jamie Collins. You got part B and so

957
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be there. There there's

958
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: some pretty like big money defensive guys that at least

959
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: the local writers thing might get cut. Gerald McCoy for

960
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: the buckssed someone will pay him that, Like, I'm kind

961
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: of shy. I'm really surprised by that. He's just injured

962
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I mean he's great when he played.

963
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: He played really well last year. And then Olivier Vernon,

964
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: who hasn't really lived up to the contract that the

965
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: Giants gave him a few years and going strong at

966
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: the end of last year, right, and hasn't really been healthy,

967
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: but you would think would have a big market. And

968
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: then Shan Lee for the Cowboys, and that's I don't

969
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: think he would necessarily have a big market, but it

970
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: would It would be very Cowboys to just like keep

971
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: him around for another year at ten million dollars. But

972
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: that just seems insane. What about um shots on the

973
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys in their business model, but they're they're a competitive

974
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: team in this league. Business shots about the cowboys and

975
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: who they pay it. They can't have punching bags. I

976
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: don't think they could afford because they have to pay Lawrence,

977
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: they have to pay Doc, they have to pay Mari

978
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: Cooper eventually. I mean, these guys all neat. Yeah, you

979
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: gotta get rid of sorry, Uh, anybody else want to

980
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: throw it out there? I see Charles Clay made your list, Greg,

981
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: because he really needs to be on this type. Well,

982
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: there's like kind of a list way at the bottom. Yeah,

983
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: he's thirteen, like you know, like it says, yeah, just

984
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: like a laundry list. He probably could. He probably could

985
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: be put on a relative He probably could have been

986
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: put on one of that. Like your boy Isaiah Crow. Well,

987
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: he did not make the top list. I think it

988
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: was a report that he's done that he's just being

989
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: they're cutting ties with them. You should put instead of

990
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: other players in trouble, other millionaires in trouble, just to

991
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: really kind of put it in context that these guys

992
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: are fine, everything will be all right. Yeah, how much

993
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: trouble are they getting? White collar drama? I mean it's

994
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: gotta be. It's still pretty devastating to you know, get fired.

995
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: Not all these guys are set for life. Is it

996
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: fired in the same Well, yeah, I can't speak to that,

997
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: but it's part of the business. They say it all

998
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: the time. Everyone on this list pretty much is going

999
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: to get a job somewhere else, right. I mean they're loaded,

1000
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: but they probably have so many hangers on types around

1001
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: them and people just training them of money and funds

1002
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: that if they're not as rich as you think. Sometimes

1003
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: Jason Peters is someone who's should be very rich. Uh

1004
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: and we'll be in the Hall of Fame someday that.

1005
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of other teams are watching to

1006
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: see what the Eagles do because I think they're trying

1007
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to keep him and lower

1008
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: his money. But he's thirty seven years old, do a

1009
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: ton of money, had been injured a lot and speed rushers, right,

1010
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: and if he if he did become available, I think

1011
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: someone would just pay him like crazy because it's impossible

1012
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: to find tackles. I just want to say, I hope

1013
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: no one gets cut. I'm Jack the River. Um. All right,

1014
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: good talk, guys. Check it out NFL dot com Slash Rosenthal.

1015
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: All right, before we go, Greg Mark, here are the

1016
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: options if you want to swipe one of Greg's columns.

1017
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: I just went through his archive from last year. All right,

1018
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: cut candidates, I mean half missed that one tag primer,

1019
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: no free agency rollout and you know like the big

1020
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: list that there's a lot of pub there, Well that's

1021
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: West too. You gotta get on West's corner or you

1022
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: compare with No, I don't next quarterback rankings, Yeah, I'll

1023
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: do that. I did. Why did I think that was like, hey,

1024
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: you have to do this because some sponsor had bought it.

1025
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: That's that we're not doing that. I actually, early in

1026
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Greg's run here had a quarterback rankings piece and it

1027
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: was quickly so that sounds that take back what was yours? Well,

1028
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was mine, but it was also.

1029
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's an original. I think I

1030
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: came up with that. I have more options you. No,

1031
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: I did roster reset, No about this one, projected starters,

1032
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: factured joke, weak spots asked to me about football. Oh no,

1033
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, making the leap get back. Definitely not.

1034
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: In fact, I am happy for Greg and his uh

1035
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: what he's doing here, I'm not. I don't want I'm

1036
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: just trying to help you if you want, I don't want.

1037
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: They are his QB Rankings basically doing all the things

1038
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: that you guys didn't want to do anymore, and you

1039
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: said sign them out and now just do it all right.

1040
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: QB Rankings talked to Ali about this. Um. We will

1041
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: be back on Friday with another exciting edition of the

1042
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: Around the End Felt Podcast. Anything else? Anybody else have

1043
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: something to add before we go? Oh? Yeah, one of

1044
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: our great listeners, j C. Carmichael from Cincinnati, had kidney

1045
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: transplant recently. I hope you're doing well. Jac See that's

1046
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: exactly That's great, j C. And thank you Clark for

1047
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: giving us all books that that was so thoughtful that

1048
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: not only did you give us books out kind of

1049
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: through mark under the bus there, No, I can't take

1050
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: it with me that night. I had a backpack and

1051
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: it was it was weeks ago. Now I could have

1052
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: recovered it anytime we've been uh, like two ships passing

1053
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: in the night. I had to take like five Why

1054
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: was that necessary? Betsy? I loved that we will coordinate

1055
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: West and I and I will get that book as

1056
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: soon as probably had to take like five ubers to

1057
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: retrace my steps and find my book bag that I

1058
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: had my backpack that I had left at a bar

1059
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: that night, but Ben got it, found it. It was

1060
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: just sitting there on the table. Yes, all right, that's it.

1061
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: This Dan had a signing off Boor, Quiet Storm, the mailman,

1062
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: the old boss Ricky Hollywood behind the glass, Nick Shook,

1063
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: going away bash tonight. Oh yeah, let's get crazy Stil

1064
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: Friday m hm